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June 28, 2016 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin

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dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are live streaming on the YouTube from our new studio.
		We have got a serious makeshift situation going on right now.
		I've got my team working.
		While I'm doing this, I'm going to give you a little tour, let you see where things are at.
		We've made a lot of progress.
		We still have a long way to go.
		We're a little up in the air on when the Rubin Report 2.0 or 3.0 or 4.0 will debut.
		It depends on who you talk to around here.
		But I'm incredibly excited about what's going on here.
		So I'm gonna give you guys a little time to jump in on the live stream since I just tweeted it out.
		I want people to have a chance before I get into the real heavy lifting stuff.
		But welcome to all you guys that are in here already.
		So yeah, we are in the new studio.
		Green screen behind me.
		You can see we have a ladder.
		Ladder is a very important piece of a studio thing.
		They go up there and they fix lights and things.
		I got my basketball from the old set.
		I'm in the trusty red chair.
		You can see our other chairs are back there.
		We've really built out something awesome over here.
		The fancy TriCaster.
		that I've been telling you about, which is not a cheap piece of equipment that you guys have
		hooked us up with, thanks to Patreon, and I'm going to talk all about that in a little bit.
		You guys have done a great, great job of helping us with the future of the Rubin Report, and I can
		assure you at the moment, the future is bright. I ask you guys to step up and help us out and
		make us not beholden to anyone except for you guys, the audience, and figure out a way to
		absolutely control not only the content and the things that we're talking about, but the
		distribution, the business behind this.
		We now have a production company, we've invested heavily in cameras and audio and all kinds of stuff.
		So we're gonna do a little AMA here, ask me anything you guys can talk to me.
		And I got, I can see the Some stuff right there.
		All right, very good.
		So yeah, so there's so much going on.
		I'm so excited.
		So first off, we got about 300 people in here right now.
		First off, I just want to say thank you guys, like beyond thank you.
		You know, when we launched this thing barely two weeks ago, when I went, we launched it on a Monday morning, when I went to bed Sunday night, You know, I'd already resigned from Aura.
		And Amira and David, who are joining me on this adventure, they had already resigned.
		So we all had given up our salaries, given up our health insurance, all that, just on a lark, right?
		Just to take a chance and say, can we do this thing?
		Can this work?
		And let's just try it.
		And I, you know, I get email from you guys every day.
		Essays!
		I get essays.
		You guys write me essays, and I assure you I read them.
		It takes some time, and I can't write back to everybody all the time.
		Or even, I write back to a very small percentage, unfortunately, because I get so much email.
		But everything that I see on Facebook and Twitter, and I go in the YouTube comment section.
		So for you guys that are in the YouTube comment section now, a lot of people say, A lot of times people say, is that really him?
		Is that really him?
		Yeah, it is me.
		And I'm so proud of what we've built here on YouTube because we've built something amazing.
		Look at the comment section.
		I know it's a little different on these live streams in general, but the comment sections on our videos, they're on point.
		Whether you agree with me, whether you agree with the guest, whether you disagree, whatever.
		It's not the endless troll fest that so much of what YouTube comments have become cliche about, right?
		We've built something so awesome here and I wanted to stay on YouTube and that's why I'm so excited that we've done this whole thing.
		It's very cool.
		Anyway, so you guys, when I went to bed that night, Sunday night before we launched this thing.
		I didn't know if I was going to wake up and then by midday, you know, we would have made two grand a month and that I would have had to either decided what else to do or gone crawling back to Aura, although they would have gladly taken me, or whatever.
		And not only did you guys exceed expectations, but we got over the 20 grand, which is what we needed to get this thing to our new studio and get it to the next level.
		You guys helped out on PayPal as well.
	A lot of one-time donations on there.
	So we bought all the equipment we need.
	We're building out exactly as we want to.
	And yeah, you can look on Patreon now, and there's different tiers still, where if we get to the 30 tier, we can hire at least one more person, possibly two, full-time editor.
	We get some PR involved, a lot of cool stuff.
	But we're good to go, and we are going to relentlessly bust our asses to make sure that your investment, whether it was $1 or $5 or $20 or $100 or whatever it is, that you will feel good about it and it was worthwhile.
	And if you care about these ideas, Then I think you know why you became a patron in the first place, because there aren't a lot of places where these ideas are getting out.
	I mean, there's just there's screaming loons on the right and screaming loons on the left.
	And most of us are here and most of us want something decent and want to have honest conversations.
	And we're watching the world in so many ways, everything that's happening all over the world.
	We're watching it just kind of fray and the world get more splintered and everyone seems angrier at each other and terrorism and just what happened in Turkey, just what I'm seeing from an hour ago.
	As I tape this right now.
	So there's a lot of bad shit going on, but I think the good, the silver lining to all of this is that for the first time in a long time, sane people are coming together because you guys keep telling me about it all the time and I see what happens when I'm walking down the street and what people are telling me.
	So it's very cool.
	So I'm very excited.
	So I'm going to try to read off some of the comments that you guys are throwing on YouTube and Twitter and all that.
	So my guys are going to just yell out.
	You can literally ask me anything.
	We can talk about the operation here.
	If you wanna talk about current events, if you wanna talk about personal stuff, if you wanna talk about sports, whatever it is, we're doing these also, because I just want you guys, while we're on this little break right now, I want you to know that we didn't forget about you, and not only did we not forget about you, but we're thinking about you guys all the time, and I'm doing live chats on the Patreon app, if you jumped in at that level, and we've been doing Facebook videos at Facebook.com slash Dave Rubin, and we're doing this stuff, and yeah, so I'm incredibly excited about what's going on here.
	It's really, it's awesome, so feel free to ask Some questions, and David's gonna throw some stuff out to me.
	But just real quick, if you haven't jumped in on Patreon yet and you're interested, It's patreon.com slash RubinReport, and there's all kinds of tiers.
	You get t-shirts and mugs, and I think we're sold out of one-on-one chats with me, but there's all kinds of cool things.
	Or you go to rubinreport.com slash donate, and that's where there's a PayPal button if you want to just do a one-time donation.
	And trust me, you're building this thing.
	If you care about these ideas, you're building this thing to be as big as it is.
	And by the way, the more higher tiers we hit, the more shows we can do, the more shows we can do.
	The more YouTube money that we can generate, and thus we can also make it bigger.
	So we get a nice little economic engine going here.
	And one day I will have a couch that is non-IKEA, but today is not that day.
	All right, what do we got for me?
	Globalism versus nationalism.
	You guys want to go right to politics off the start?
	Can we do something?
	Yeah, give me something a little lighter.
	Baseball, yay or nay, I used to love baseball.
	I'm a lifelong Yankees fan.
	I proudly sport a Yankees cap on the weekends.
	The Yankees, for the record, when I was growing up in the 80s, Yankees sucked.
	So it wasn't that the empire that now everyone knows the Yankees existed.
	They absolutely sucked and I became a Yankees fan because I've always been, I guess, a contrarian by nature and I grew up in Long Island.
	There were a lot of Mets fans, right?
	We all could choose between being a Mets fan or a Yankees fan, basically.
	And all my friends were Mets fans, and I just said I'm gonna be a Yankees fan.
	Don Mattingly was my favorite player for many years.
	Bernie Williams on the later Yankees years.
	Interesting side note about me, I am a lefty.
	I write with my left hand, but I play basketball righty.
	I use lefty scissors, and I throw with my right hand.
	I wish I played all sports lefty, because it's a huge advantage.
	Okay, what's going on?
unidentified		What are some upcoming guests that you're working on?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're working on, so I don't want to give away everything right now, but we're working on a ton.
		Of great people, and we're working on people that, you know, you've seen the way we've done this show.
		We've mixed it up between having, you know, authors and science people, you know, like Sam Harris, to celebrities more like Stephen Fry, to news people like Don Lemon, and politicians like John McCain, and, you know, climate scientists like Dr. Michael Mann, and then, you know, politician like Gary Johnson.
		So we've really been all over the map, and that's what I'm very proud of.
		And we're gonna continue to do that.
		Um, and you know, every now and again, I'll see someone will say, uh, you know, someone will say, oh, well, you know, it's, it's just an echo chamber over there.
		And by the way, I get very little of that, but of course, when people say nice things about me, they just, I forget them because it's like, oh.
		Yeah, okay.
		But the bad things always stick with you for a little longer.
		And I think the best example of how this is not an echo chamber here is that I had Jeroen Broek, who's the president of the Ayn Rand Institute, on about two months ago and had a really enjoyable conversation with him.
		If you haven't seen it, check it out.
		And then the very next week, I had John Fuglesang on, who's a good buddy of mine from my standout days, and a very funny comic, and a radio host on SiriusXM.
		And in the middle of it, he started ripping on Ayn Rand and all her ideas without even knowing who I had on the previous week.
		And guess what?
		I listened to both of them, and I heard their ideas, and I didn't slander either one of them, or call them a fascist, or a bigot, or a racist, or a homophobe, or a sexist, or an ableist, or any of those things after.
		And I'm very proud that we've been able to do that here, and I continue, I plan on continuing Doing much more of that.
		David, you can keep reading off whatever.
		What kind of music am I listening to these days?
		So I've talked about this a little before.
		I love jazz.
		I'm a real jazz guy.
		I love jazz.
		You know, jazz is one of the only American indigenous art forms, actually.
		An art that was really created in America.
		Stand-up comedy is another one that was really created here.
		I love jazz.
		I like ambient music.
		I do a lot at the Chill Station on Pandora.
		I'm not a big word guy, but I do like a lot of 80s rock also.
		I love Fleetwood Mac.
		Journey, I went to a Journey concert last year.
		I absolutely love Journey.
		I got engaged at a Fleetwood Mac concert in LA at the Forum about a year and a half ago.
unidentified		So my music taste is kinda all over the place.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I like some classical music too, you know, I'm open.
		What else we got?
		Just keep firing them off to me when--
unidentified		You want to do any more serious stuff?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, yeah, whatever you want.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		We can do serious.
unidentified		If you decide that people want to hear you talk about Brexit, the other 50 people think
unidentified		everyone's talking about Brexit.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I'm gonna throw in one little piece on Brexit.
		And I've said this a couple times on some of these live streams.
		First off, look, I live in America.
		So you have to take what I say with a grain of salt on this topic because we don't get any good information about this.
		But obviously I do read a lot of international news stories and there are people I trust on Twitter that have been talking about it and everything else.
		And I've watched some stuff from the BBC and all that stuff.
		So I would say this on the blanket level.
		Again, I'm not an expert on this, but I am a firm believer that the more local control people have over their lives, and the more it's about the individual, the better.
		So the idea of outsourcing a lot of the UK's decisions, or any of these European countries, that they were outsourcing their decisions to be left to bureaucrats in Brussels, I could understand if I lived in the UK why I would not be for that.
		Now I understand there's also reasons that it could be good related to economics and people being able to cross borders to do business and things like that.
		Then there's bad side because obviously there's a massive immigration problem and if Germany has really open borders and then a lot of the migrants are able to go from Germany to Italy to wherever and then eventually get from Turkey to Greece and all that stuff.
		Um, I can, I can see that, look, you should have a, every country exists, uh, to protect, to have sovereignty, to protect its borders, right?
		That's not racist in and of itself.
		I've said that a thousand times before, which is why the Trump wall thing may not be a good idea, may not be economical, may not be viable.
		They may need eminent domain to do it.
		Uh, maybe, maybe stupid and ineffective, but in and of itself, it's not racist to protect your borders.
		So people should understand that, but I know we're not very good at having Really smart conversations.
		So yeah, so that's sort of where I am.
		So I think, I think that if I lived in the UK that I would have voted for it.
		Now already it sounds like the people who were pushing it are already backing off a lot of their promises.
		That it sounded like they were gonna get like, they were saying that we're gonna get 350 million euros back into our economy a month, I think.
		Was it a month or a week?
		Someone can let me know.
		If we get out of, The EU, now they're already saying that that's probably not true.
		So look, everybody plays politics and tries to pretend they're the ones that are giving you the truth all the time.
		And that's really the reverse of the way I do any of this.
		Like, I don't have all the answers, but I think we can try to make informed decisions about some things.
		A couple people are asking about the Turkey terror attacks.
		So I've been in the studio all day doing all kinds of stuff and picking up stuff and driving things around.
		So I just heard it sounds like maybe 60 people were killed and ISIS has claimed responsibility.
		I mean, I think you know what I'm going to say on this.
		We have to be able to talk about bad ideologies.
		You cannot, this is not one where immediately, I know some of my regressive friends, right?
		Some of them who are on YouTube immediately today are going to be screaming about the Crusades and screaming about American foreign policy.
		Well, Turkish foreign policy And Turkish policy in general has nothing to do with, well, it has something to do with the growth of ISIS.
		They've actually helped ISIS in a lot of ways.
		And the Prime Minister of Turkey, in a lot of ways, has helped Islamists in general and has been extremely against free speech.
		But the point is that these people, if they're telling you that we're using a book to do terrible things and to murder non-believers and to use it for political ends, so they're twisting religious beliefs By the way, I think all of these things are made up, right?
		All three of the big books, Old Testament, New Testament, Quran, they're all equally made up by men who want to control other people.
		But it's about what actions the people do in their names.
		And look, when I saw the original tweet about this, yeah, was it going to be a radical Mormon or a gay supremacist?
		Obviously not.
		So we need not make everything equal.
		It is a failing of the mind of the West.
		And it is the most regressive thing you can do.
		That every time someone tells you why they're doing something, what ideology they use to kill, that you try to make a blanket condemnation of everybody else.
		It's just silly.
		You know, when the Orlando terror attack happened just a couple weeks ago, I saw on Twitter this woman, Sally Cohn, she's a CNN contributor.
		And she tweeted about how, you know, all religions have their bad guys.
		All Christianity and Islam and Judaism all have done bad things, name a thing.
		That's basically sort of true.
		It doesn't mean that they've all done it equally, right?
		But I retweeted her and I said, can you at least say which one would be the worst?
		For an outspoken Jewish.
		Sally Cohn is a Jewish lesbian who speaks her mind, uses her free speech for a living.
		So could you at least say which one of those doctrines, which one of the places where those ideas are taking root would be the worst?
		And of course, you've got a thousand retweets and she'd never respond.
		Because these people don't really have arguments.
		They have fake moral posturing.
		And as a lot of you guys say, virtue signaling.
		So they always make it seem like we're so much more intellectual than everybody else, and if they could only be as intellectual as us, they'd really understand how humanity works.
		Call me dumb, but you know, if someone says they want to kill me and then they list out a reason and then they point to a book that says why they could do it, I'm gonna take their word for it.
		Okay, let's see.
		What do we got David, what do we got?
unidentified		We're planning on hosting debates on season two.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So I definitely wanted, so that's the thing, like we can really build this show out now
		to be much more than we've done.
		You know, so traditionally I've done the one-on-one interviews.
		And by the way, for those of you that haven't been watching the Rubin Report for that long, when we launched the Rubin Report way back when, when it was first on the Young Turks Network, really I was just doing two comedians or hot topic type people and we were just buzzing through current events.
		That was it.
		And I enjoyed it and it was good.
		But we never really became an interview show, which obviously has become my thing and what I love doing the most.
		is the most relevant right now.
		We didn't start doing that until I sat down that first day with Sam Harris, and then after that day, I was like, you know what?
		That's what we're gonna do here.
		So we've got a couple panels, but I would like to do more debates.
		I know everybody wants the big Milo-Ben Shapiro thing, and I'm trying to facilitate it.
		Milo made the offer, Ben said yes, then Milo couldn't do it, then Ben sort of backed out.
		I'm gonna get them back on the fray.
		I promise you, I will at least try to get them back in on it.
unidentified		People are saying Gavin McGinnis vs. Peter Hitchens.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Gavin McGinnis vs. Peter Hitchens.
		I don't know if there's a beef between the two of them.
		I'd be happy to have them both on the show.
		I was on Gavin's show a couple weeks ago.
		Peter Hitchens and I took forever.
		A zillion people were asking me to get Peter Hitchens on the show, and he was extremely hard to contact.
		A little grumpy, but we're gonna make it happen.
		So we've been in contact, and yeah, once we start here.
		So as I said, in case you're just joining late, our plan is to shoot some test shows at the end of this week.
		and try to launch next week.
		There's a chance we may have to delay one more week because there's so much going on here studio-wise.
		Building out a studio is not an easy thing.
		And you know, I'm--
unidentified		With three people.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		With three people, with three people.
		Amira made a good point of saying there's three of us here.
		I'll give you guys a little introduction of some other things going around here in a second.
		But yeah, we're working incredibly hard to make it come off as smoothly as possible.
		And the quality, yeah, it won't, there won't be a hitch in what's going on.
		Any plans to write a book?
		So I've started writing something.
		I have the basic outline, and I think you can sort of guess as to what it's about, mostly, although I've got a couple of tricks up my sleeve.
		But yeah, I am working on it.
		I was contacted by a pretty big literary agency that wants me to do it, and it's something I've been meaning to do for a long time.
		Obviously, we've got a lot going on right now.
		This is a moment in my life where there just aren't enough hours in the day, and it's nice.
		It feels like it's all coming together.
		I actually celebrated my 40th birthday, This past weekend, it was on this Sunday, the 26th, I turned 40.
		So I'm the oldest man on YouTube.
		I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
		There might be, there may be a video of Gandalf or something on here, or he might be an old Magneto, maybe.
		But yeah, it's nice because at this point, it feels like the things that I care about, the things that I've been working for, The message that I've been sharing, these things are all coming together at once.
		And what's really nice is that you guys have all kind of come in at the same time.
		That's the beauty of ideas, as I always say.
		That we're all having these ideas, and then when someone else has an idea that maybe you thought of six months ago that was just rumbling around in your head, and you're like, there's something here and now we've started to connect
		because of YouTube and because of Twitter and because of Facebook and all that.
		Thank you guys for all the 40th birthday wishes, by the way, I look young mate.
		I drink this kale shake in the morning.
		That seems to be the trick at the moment.
		And so it seems to be working for me, I suppose.
		Okay, what else we got?
unidentified		You still working on getting Bill Maher on or are you gonna be on the show?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I'm working on Bill Maher.
		If any of you have a freaking connection with Bill Maher, I would love to get Bill in for our first show.
		We've put some feelers out there.
		The thing is that, you know, he's doing a bunch of shows.
		He's going on Hades next week, I think, because then they're doing a bunch of shows at the conventions.
		So I don't think it can happen for our first show, but we're working on it.
		I've sat down with the talent booker at Realtime.
		I've sat down with the executive producer about me getting on there.
		You know, one of the issues is that I agree with Bill on a lot of stuff, but suddenly I do find myself disagreeing with him.
		More over the last couple months, but guess what?
		If I ever get on there, and if I disagree with him on every topic that day, I'm not going to slander him or besmirch his credibility or his humanity as so many people often do when you disagree with somebody.
		But for example, one of the things that I disagree with him about is he did a A piece at the end of the show about three weeks ago, where he talked about how there's been a lot of articles written about how the rise of Trump is directly related to the left.
		And that's something I've been saying for a long time, and Sam's been saying it, and Douglas Murray's been saying it, and Machinois, and Ayan, and plenty of other people.
		I've been saying this, that if the left won't deal with Islamism honestly and refuses to talk about a doctrine that would love to destroy the West and is the most least progressive thing ever, the most least progressive thing ever, well then of course that leads people to going to the right, and in this case it's Donald Trump, right?
		I would say that this is a case where I completely disagree with Bill, and actually in the piece that he did, if you can find it on YouTube, he shows an article and it's written by Douglas Murray and they show a cutout of the article and in it it says something about how Sam Harris, Bill Maher, and Dave Rubin are the only people on the left standing up for liberal values right now in America.
		So I'm inching closer.
		I'm inching closer.
		I'm getting there.
		What else we got?
		Who's sexier, Crowder or Milo?
		Neither one of them are particularly my type.
		And whatever answer I say here, there's no answer that I can get out of this and win, right?
		If I say Milo, good God, he'll never stop.
		And if I say Crowder, he just wants more gay cred.
		Alright, you know what?
		If we get to 25k on Patreon, While I'm doing this live stream, then I will make that announcement.
		I'm willing to play that sort of truth-or-dare type thing with you, because yeah, we really want to hit this 30k thing for those of you guys that are playing along at home.
		If we get to 30k, we hire at least one more person, probably two people, and then we can just do so much more.
		The thing is, I could interview people five days a week.
		I think that would be a little excessive, but I could do it.
		But the thing is, we need more staff.
		More editors, we need more production assistants, graphics people, and we've had, by the way, we've had, and I'm sure some of you that are watching this right now are some of these people, I've had at least, at least, and I think I'm going under on this, 300 people offer to work for us, or offer free services, or offer to do web apps for us, or be PAs, or be interns, or do graphics, or whatever.
		And we've talked to a couple of you guys, and we do obviously have certain needs, but I want to be able to pay you guys.
		I really don't like doing things for free.
		So maybe there's a lot of... That's very cool.
		It's very cool.
		You guys have been very good to me.
		All right, what else is going on?
		I don't know if that means you going to colleges or having professors So do I have any plans to do more college stuff?
		So, you know, I did the Milo thing at UCLA.
		I'm going out to Colby College up in Massachusetts.
		I'm doing that in a couple months.
		Milo and I are going to Yale also in a couple months.
		And yeah, I like doing the college thing because that's, we all know this, right?
		Like that, this trigger warning, safe space, bullshit.
		That's where it's taking root.
		And it's probably taking root younger now.
		Actually, I get email from people even in high school who are saying that this stuff is taking root there.
		But you gotta stop this stuff in college.
		The place college is supposed to be for intellectual diversity.
		That's where you're supposed to have your ideas challenged, right?
		And nobody's having them challenged anymore.
		And the second you do have your ideas challenged, what happens?
		People throw garbage at you or they stop you from speaking or whatever it is.
		So yeah, I'd love to be doing more.
		More college stuff.
		That would be very cool.
unidentified		Alright, one more and then I'm gonna stand up and give them a look.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, so... Okay, so I love that question because it's something that I really want to do.
		So a lot of you are asking, are we gonna ever live stream the show, live stream questions, things like that.
		Look, at this point, you know, the technology has caught up.
		Look what we're doing right now.
		I'm live right this very second.
unidentified		Right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I've got David reading the questions because they're all, the comments are flying by so quick.
		The technology is now fully here to do whatever we want with this thing.
		There's virtually nothing.
		We have a master list of things that we would like to do with the show and take it on the road and have a small studio audience, which we can do in this studio.
		And yeah, I would love to be doing these things live.
		I'll tell you this, when we do our show, If we do an hour interview, let's say.
		You're seeing virtually no editing.
		You're seeing editing for camera 1 to camera 3 or whatever that is.
		But we never edit for content.
		And we do it, in effect, live.
		I just sit down.
		And we go for an hour.
		I don't think ever, and either one of you guys here in this room can correct me if I'm wrong, have we ever stopped because of content.
		Like a light blew out once or that kind of thing.
		But yes, I would love to be doing this live, love to figure out more ways to integrate you guys.
		So I think it would actually be very cool if, let's say, in the future I do an hour-long interview with someone, and then the half hour after that, It's a live Q&A with you guys submitting the questions.
		I think that would be awesome.
		So that type of thing though, it would take a lot of resources, right?
		We would definitely need more manpower.
		There's more backend stuff that would involve.
		So that's when we get the 50K tier on Patreon, then we're gonna do that.
		If we're at the lesser tier, we can get a couple people in here for a live studio audience, but there's some security things with that.
		So, you know, we'd have to hire some other people.
		So basically this thing, this idea, this show, It can be as big as you guys enable it to be.
unidentified		That fully, fully, fully is the truth.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What about Rogan?
		So we're working on Rogan.
		We're working on Rogan.
		He's incredibly busy.
		This guy does, how many three hour interviews does he do per week?
unidentified		A lot.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		He works really, really hard.
		I love going in there and chatting with him.
		If you haven't seen it, we did it back in October.
		You can find it on YouTube.
		And you just go.
		I didn't realize there was going to be no stops.
		And I drank like three cups of coffee and a glass of water before we started and my bladder almost exploded.
		Like it actually, you would have seen the hospital, me going to the hospital at the end of it.
		But yes, we will get him in here and I'm definitely going to go back on in there.
		So here, I'm going to move the, I'm going to move the computer for just a second, give you a little, a mini tour of what's going on here.
		So we got a giant green screen in the back here.
		So green screens, you know, so that's they can lay in graphics behind you and do some really cool stuff.
		So that's part of it.
		So that's a table with some stuff on it.
		Note, those are tools and measuring things and things of that nature.
		Soundproof doors over there.
		So here are some of our walls.
		So the brick wall is going to be our back wall.
		So that'll be the wall.
		That'll be the main wall.
		And then we've got two other walls here that are going to be wood paneled walls.
		That are very cool.
		We just got the wood in today, so we're working on that.
		This machine here... Don't worry, Amira.
		You want in?
		You want in on this?
		So this machine here, this is the TriCaster, which you... It's this.
		Which is the TriCaster?
		What?
		Oh, that!
		Yes, you can see how much I know.
		That's the TriCaster, which is an absurdly expensive piece of equipment.
		I think it costs like 15 grand or so.
		that is basically it gives you a live studio.
		So you can edit on the fly and you can control the cameras and all that kind of cool stuff.
		We've got some cameras here.
unidentified		People are very excited to see you film tomorrow.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I know, right?
		Listen, my wall is for good purposes, you know what I mean?
		You can debate the Trump thing, but my wall will be efficient, my wall will be cost-effective, and my wall will be good for everybody.
		And it's going to be high!
		Don't make me bring it any higher.
		We've got a lot of boxes around here.
		I want to keep one part of the studio secret for now, because it's very cool.
		You know, we've got great audio stuff, and we've got some of our old stuff from the set.
		And we've got our basketball, and we've got a cool lighting grid.
		And then there's, you know, we've got a great green room here for the guests.
		Yeah, we've got a great makeup room.
		And we have, what else?
		We've got a great conference room out there.
		And the beauty of this studio, when I was at When I was at TYT, we only had one hour a week to shoot.
		We could shoot the Rubin Report for one hour a week.
		That's just how it worked.
		No, I had no problem with that.
		That's just how it worked.
		When I was at Aura, we had two hours a week.
		Again, just because of how it worked, just how studio and schedule worked.
		And here, we pretty much can shoot whatever we want five days a week for hours a day.
		So we can do all kinds We can do post-debate shows when the presidential debates come.
		We can do live streaming stuff at the conventions.
		We can do all kinds of stuff.
		So really, right now, it's simply about budget.
		Like, we don't have big network budgets behind us.
		But you guys have helped us.
		And trust me, once we get some of the YouTube bread back, which we have to start putting up videos, obviously, to lay in some commercials over things, so we can make that kind of stuff happen.
		And we're also working on a couple of sponsorship deals, a couple of partnership deals.
		People have been reaching out to me out of the woodwork.
		And asking if I want to partner up on this or that.
		The beautiful thing about Patreon also is that because now you guys have given us a base, like a budget to work with, we don't have to be desperate, right?
		So if someone comes in with a deal that doesn't feel right, I don't have to feel like, oh man, we got to take that because we got to keep the lights on.
		So that's really the beauty of Patreon.
		Like you guys are enabling us to make the right decisions.
		So I won't feel the need to sell out for some ridiculous thing.
		Again, would like to get off my Ikea couch.
		But that's pretty much it.
		Alright, what else is going on?
unidentified		You want to do more political series?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, whatever you want.
unidentified		Do you think that being a liberal or identifying as a liberal is independent from left-right leaning?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Is being a liberal independent from left-right leaning?
		So if you would have asked me that about six months ago, I probably would have said no.
		I would have said if you're a liberal, you're on the left.
		But I'm a firm believer that right now, that this left-right, conservative, Republican, liberal, Democrat, these labels are meaning less and less and less and less.
		You know, and some people have said to me, well, but you use the label of regressive left, so how can you say labels don't mean anything?
		What I would say to that is that when I started the show back in September, yeah, Maajid Nawaz had coined the phrase regressive left a couple years ago, but it really wasn't out in the ether that much.
		He talked about it, Sam had mentioned it a couple times, but in no mainstream fashion had it been mentioned, right?
		And since we started the show in September, and I really push this thing, and there's been other people online that have been really pushing it too, Bill Maher mentioned it on Real Time.
		They've been mentioning it on cable news, Regressive Left.
		I've heard some politicians say it.
		So the idea that progressives became regressive, that they were not for progression, Which is that you judge people on the individual, but instead they were for regressing.
		They were for judging.
		They are for judging people on all of those things that divide us.
		Your ethnicity and your religion and your sexuality and all those things.
		And then they create their oppression Olympics charts.
		And then they go, if you did something to this person, but you're below them, I have to treat you this way.
		And if you're this way, none of us would want to be treated that way.
		You would want to be judged by the content of your character and of your thoughts.
		So I think we needed to label that ideology.
		And it's very obvious to me because all of you guys tell me this all the time.
		You were thinking the same things as I alluded to earlier.
		You were having these same thoughts, but we didn't know how to address what the problem was.
		We needed a label to get there with that.
		Now, I think maybe in six months from now, that label will be useless because we'll have identified it.
		It will be obvious.
		It will have jumped to mainstream where people are going to go, Progressives?
		Well, they're actually not progressive.
		We don't even have to say regressive anymore, I hope.
		I take no pleasure in saying it.
		It's something that's been important to me for a while now.
		But I think, yeah, getting away from... So liberals right now, are liberals on the left?
		Right now, the left in America are the ones that are trying to stop free speech.
		They're the ones that are using violence to stop political speech.
		And that all of these kids that, when I went to UCLA, that were blocking Milo, Milo, who's a bleached blonde British gay guy who you could knock over with a feather.
		I love him, but you could just knock him over just like that.
		They think he's a threat to them.
		So what do they do?
		They build a wall, a human chain of a wall, outside of the place to stop people from going in.
		So again, they're not against walls.
		They just don't like Trump's wall.
		But if it's a wall to stop free speech, they're for it.
		And they're throwing garbage cans and they spit in Milo's face and they're getting up in cops' faces with cameras like that.
		And all this shit.
		And it's like, that's what the left has become, and the left is tacitly endorsing in America.
		These are not liberals.
		Liberal, to me, a liberal, all a liberal is, is someone who will look at the world as it is, not how they want it to be.
		It's someone who will use logic and reason and change their opinions as facts change.
		And I've said this before, but that doesn't mean that you don't have a moral compass.
		It means that you are able to take in new information.
		That's the whole point of having a...
unidentified		[no audio]
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		...rights movement and the civil rights movement and many other things like that.
		So there is a split between what I would say are lefties, progressives, and liberals.
		And actually classic liberalism is very close to libertarianism, which technically, if you looked on like whatever the official chart of all this is, that's actually on the right.
		So I think there's a new, if you take, if you think the extremes are here, there is a center right now.
		And it goes with sort of libertarians and classic liberals, And it's growing and people are going, "What is the role of
		government?"
		And I don't want to shoot shout people down.
		And so many other things.
		And most of us are saying we're decent here, but we got to be finally heard again.
		Because they're not going to stop.
		They're not going to stop trying to silence you.
unidentified		I want you to tell the people what we're doing here.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing here?
unidentified		We're doing...
unidentified		We're 150 away from 22,000.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Okay.
		So I'll do a little radio reset.
		I used to be a radio guy on SiriusXM.
		So you are watching the Rubin Report live stream.
		And what are we doing here?
		We are raising funds for our Patreon, which is basically the life You guys are giving us a monthly budget to go ahead and build this show out the way you want, the way we want, and to keep pushing this idea of free speech and big ideas and not being afraid to have your thoughts challenged, but most importantly, to hear people and listen.
		So yes, at patreon.com slash RubinReport, there's various tiers that you can give at, and by giving, you're creating our budget to go ahead and build great things.
		So patreon.com RubinReport or if you want to just do a one-time easy donation you can go to rubinreport.com donate and there's a PayPal button on there and yeah we hit we hit the 20k really easy and then we haven't been pushing much in the last week or 10 days or so but yeah we'd really love to get to that if we get to that 30k we are beyond good to go for a long time a long time and we will we will we're gonna blow this thing out of the water Yeah yeah there's a lot like just check out patreon.com where you can see five bucks a month you get exclusive videos at $10 a month you get the live group chat which I've been doing almost every day and I just jump in chat with people it's really good it's like having a private whatsapp that I'm in with with a lot of you guys and there's private YouTube live streams that we're doing and all kinds of stuff so it's very
		And oh, so this type of thing.
		We're going to be doing these just for the people that are in.
		15 bucks a month, we're going to be doing these, this YouTube Live thing, just for a select group of people that are doing it at that level.
		And by the way, if you don't have any money, or you're a struggling college student, or you, whatever it is, you live in Greece and the drachma's not worth much, just share the videos on Facebook and YouTube.
		And don't be afraid, as so many people tell me all the time, I'm afraid to share this, or I'm afraid to say that to my friend, or any of this stuff.
		It's like, if you're afraid now, in 2016, if you live in the West, and you're afraid to say what you think now, just imagine how much this is gonna be worse in two years.
		Just imagine when you have kids in 15 years, how much worse this is all gonna be.
		We have to make a stand now.
		We're running out of time.
		I'm not really an alarmist.
		I think you guys know that about me, right?
		I'm pretty level-headed.
		But there's something happening in the world right now.
		And that's why, when I did the fan show that we did, that I hope some of you guys saw, And I talked to people in India and people in London.
		And I talked to people in South America, talked to people in Sweden, wherever it was,
		whatever country, whatever continent it was, the same ideas were percolating in all of these places
		from people of every walk of life and believers, non-believers, gay, straight, trans,
		any of that stuff, nobody cares.
		It's about these ideas.
		And there's a moment for us.
		And if you believe in this and you can toss in a couple of bucks on Patreon,
		that's great.
		And if you don't, you got to at least share.
		Click like, share, something.
		'Cause that's how these things will spread.
		It's really as simple as that.
unidentified		What are your thoughts on Dinesh Kisuza?
unidentified		Bye.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What are my thoughts on Dinesh D'Souza?
		Well, we're gonna get him in on the show probably in a couple weeks.
		He lives down in San Diego.
		We're in Los Angeles here, so we're gonna get him in.
		You know what?
		To be 100% honest, as I always am with you guys, I don't know a ton about him.
		I know he's a right-wing guy.
		I know he really hates Hillary Clinton, and he's making this movie about her.
		But yeah, he's thought of as a real conservative.
		He was an immigrant, born in India, came here, basically lived the American dream.
		I watched about 15 minutes of his debate with Cenk at Politicon.
		Well, I watched about 20 minutes probably, and it was just an appalling, he was just smacking Cenk around.
		It was sort of nice to watch.
		So yeah, we'll get him in here.
		And again, look, whether it's somebody on the right, that's the beauty.
		There's virtually, there's very few people that you guys could offer me up to speak with that are really in the public sphere that are thought of as adding anything to our public discourse that I wouldn't talk to just on principle.
		I'm happy to talk to pretty much anybody.
		Yeah, if somebody was a pure hate mobster, you know what I mean?
		And I mean that like they were really calling for violence for people against a group of people and really just spreading hate or intentional misinformation or intentional lies.
		This is one thing people say to me.
		Sometimes a guest will come on and say something that I obviously don't agree with or I don't like.
		Ben Shapiro came on and talked about why he's not for gay marriage.
		But guess what?
		I let him share his thoughts on it by just shouting him down or screaming why I'm so morally right.
		How does that help anything?
		I let him share his opinion.
		And then by the way, maybe at the end of this, and next time I have him on, I'll ask, maybe at the end, he thought, wow, Could you do an episode on religion with apologists able to defend themselves?
		should be allowed to get married. And he sat there and listened to me. And maybe I should
		be okay with gay marriage because it doesn't appear that that guy's marriage hurt my marriage
		in any way. So there's a little bit of a method to my madness.
unidentified		Could you do an episode on religion with apologists able to defend themselves? It would be interesting
unidentified		to get a better opinion on religion besides atheism.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a few people have asked this.
		Can I get more people on about religion?
		And I think it's interesting because people have asked me this.
		Even atheists have said, can you do more about religion?
		Some people that are not religious have asked this or that.
		Yes, absolutely.
		I've been in touch with a couple people in this space.
		Some people from a Catholic background, some people from a Jewish background, some people from a Muslim background.
		So yeah, I would love to do like just a panel on faith in general and talk about some of those things that we talk about all the time.
		You know, the difference between just doctrine and the people who act on them, and the difference between just having traditions that most of us have somehow related to religion, Versus what it actually means to be a believer, or to literally believe in these quotes, or any of that kind of stuff.
		And how religion, in 2016, when we know so much about the universe and still know nothing at all, how religion could still play a part in anyone's life, I think is really interesting.
		And by the way, I've said this a zillion times, my atheism, which to me is just that I don't believe unless I have proof, which is how I would treat anything else, right?
		If someone told me that LeBron James dunked from half court last night, did you see it?
		I would say, you know what, I'm going to need some proof.
		I wouldn't just take your word for it.
		Oh, he dunked from half court, really?
		So why would I treat the biggest questions of the world any less, with any less intellectual rigor?
		But you know what, I would also say that, look, if you're a believer, And you believe whatever you want, and that's in the privacy of your own home, and you don't try to legislate it, and you don't try to chop my head off for it.
		I don't care what you believe.
		I don't think I'm better than you, and I don't think I'm smarter than you.
		I believe something different than you, and it's irrelevant.
		So live your life however you want, but don't even push your beliefs on others, I think is an important piece of being in a functional Western society.
unidentified		Is there a person you'd love to get on the show that might reject you?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		A person that I would love to get on the show that might reject me.
		Well, I mean, I would love to, I've tried, we've reached out to Trump, we've reached out to Clinton.
		I'd love to talk to President Obama.
		I mean, I think getting some of the higher level people like that, they're not used to a really, a real long form, thought out discussion.
		I think that would be the issue.
		So like Obama, for example, Say what you want about George Bush.
		George Bush used to have press conferences, pretty frequently, where he would stand in front of the press and answer questions.
		Obama does them very infrequently, and when he does, he only takes about three questions, because he just talks long enough that you forget what the original question is, and then the press conference is over.
		So yeah, Obama's done interviews with some YouTubers, and he's gone on Two Ferns, and some of that stuff.
		Well, like, you want a real discussion about a lot of the things that you used to talk about more, about the underpinnings of government and philosophy and things that you studied and taught at Harvard?
		Yeah, I would love, of course, I would love to have the president on.
		I think that's going to be a hard get, but I think any of that stuff's possible.
		And by the way, you know, a lot of the reasons that these people get the interviews with these guys is because they do end up at the same parties with them, and they're all sort of in bed together.
		That this is one of the things that the Trump campaign is actually exposing, which we've all talked about forever, right?
		Anyone that's on the outside looking in has talked about it.
		You know, they do the White House Correspondents' Dinner where they all go to the same parties, the media people are married to the politicians, and their kids work in politics or in media, and there's just like this constant like circle jerk of It's just bullshit, just sifting.
		And it's becoming, the people that the media keeps putting on to analyze everything, they're
		all the ones who got everything wrong about Trump six months ago, and they're all the
		ones that are going to get everything wrong now, too.
		So we deserve better, and that's why it's cool that people are waking up and finding
		some of this stuff online.
		I'm a real person.
		There's no, this is it.
		This is as real as it gets, folks.
unidentified		Do you have any plans to get Gary Johnson back for a longer interview?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Gary Johnson back.
		When I had him on, he was there because he was being interviewed by Larry King.
		He happened to be in the green room with me, and I said, could you just jump on?
		Can we just talk for like 20 minutes?
		Because I knew he had another thing to get to.
		He said yes.
		We did no preparation whatsoever.
		Guy could not have been nicer.
		When you get there, you get to sit and look somebody in the eye and really figure out who they are.
		And we talked about some of the underpinnings of libertarianism.
		So it's on the YouTube channel right now.
		You can find it.
		I thoroughly enjoyed talking to him, and I don't know who I'm gonna support.
		I'm actually, if I had to pick one, at the moment I'm leaning towards Gary Johnson.
		Now, I know that might not be the smartest thing in terms of my career because I'll have everyone angry at me, then the Trump people will be angry at me and the Hillary people.
		But if there was ever a time to do a protest vote in the country, I think this is it.
		We desperately need a third and a fourth and a fifth party.
		And if there was ever a time to say, we gotta set the groundwork now, So that in 2020 it will be legit.
		I think this is the time.
		So I'm not, I'm still not totally sure what I'm gonna do.
		I think at the very least, at the very least, if you care about any of this stuff, At the very least, you should try, if you get called by any of those pollsters, or however they do it, I've never been called by the way, but at the very least, you should try, you should say you'd vote for Gary Johnson because if he gets to 15% in an average of national polls, they have to at least put him in the debate.
		Let's at least get, I think they do four presidential debates, let's at least do one where there's another voice in there.
		We know, we know what Trump's about now.
		We know what Hillary's about.
		Fine.
		Whether you like either one of them or you don't like either one, fine.
		But let's get one more voice in there.
		I think that would be, I think that would be a great idea.
unidentified		All right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So if you are playing along at home, what in God's name are we doing here?
		We're raising funds on Patreon, and I'm showing you the new studio and just talking, really.
		So it's patreon.com slash RubinReport.
		And again, I thank you.
		By the way, guys, you know, we've raised, last I saw, I think we're close to 22 grand, I think, per month right now, which is pretty awesome.
		And as I said, it gives us a nice little roadway here.
		We want to get to the 30, but, you know, we got a nice runway to go with right now.
		What?
		Okay, you know what?
		We're gonna do a little something here.
		I'm gonna keep going for a while.
		We've been doing this for about 45 minutes.
		I think I got another half hour of talk time in me as long as my computer doesn't burn.
		So here's what we'll do.
		I will give live shoutouts to anyone at this point.
		You know what?
		You're throwing over We'll do five bucks.
		We'll do five bucks.
		I'm feeling good.
		We'll do five bucks.
		If you just jump in on patreon.com slash RubinReport, I will give you a live shout out on this stream.
		And by the way, this stream, this is live right now, but it's gonna stay on our YouTube channel.
		So yes, Dave Rubin will give you a live shout out right now if you donate five dollars or more on Patreon and you get access to private videos.
		And depending on what tier you go up to, you know, all the one-on-ones and the group chats are all sold out already. I think that was the $100 tier
unidentified		and the $250 tier.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to do the one-time donation on PayPal, I think there's still some one-on-one
		chats. Which, by the way, I've been talking to a bunch of you guys. I've been doing these Skype
		things with you guys. Talked to my friend Mohammed in the United Arab Emirates. I mean,
		I'm talking to people all over the world, and it's just so cool.
		It's just so cool.
		There's so many good things going on.
		All right, what do we got?
unidentified		I'm gonna give you some names of people that have pledged at least $5 since we started.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, so here are people that have pledged at least $5 since we started.
unidentified		And some of them have done it since you just said it.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Retroactive and people who just did it in the last three minutes.
unidentified		Jason.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Jason!
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What's up, man?
unidentified		Ninja Stuff.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Ninja Stuff!
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, Ninja?
unidentified		Camden.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Camden.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What's up, dude?
unidentified		Eric.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Eric.
		Good man.
		Fine man.
		All right, very good.
		All right, so we're getting some people in here.
		Yeah, I don't know, let's crack.
		Somebody shock me.
		Somebody shock the world.
		Can we get this thing to 25 grand in the next half hour?
		Let's shock the world, people.
unidentified		Let's shock the world.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, my hair's looking good today.
		Feeling good about what's going on over there.
		Yeah, that's nice.
		All right, where are we at here?
unidentified		Do you think you'd ever run for U.S.
unidentified		office?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Do I think I'd ever run for US office?
		People have been asking me this now a lot the last couple months.
		You know, at one time, I kind of did want to be a politician.
		And you know, I did stand up in New York for about 12 years.
		And I do it every couple weeks here.
		And people want me to get back into it.
		And, you know, the thing is, now that my profile is raised enough where I can draw so that they could, you know, put my name on the On the marquee or in the paper or whatever it is.
		The paper.
		The paper!
		It's like, I'm talking about the papers.
		They can tweet it out or whatever.
		And the right people are coming to see me.
		I'm gonna get back into it more.
		But I think the skills that I learned in stand-up and just being able to speak freely and I don't need a teleprompter at all times.
		And I know what I'm saying, basically.
		I think that would be, I would love to be in debates with these clowns.
		And yes, if Trump called me, you know, little Dave Rubin or whatever he says, like, I would have a comeback.
		You know, these guys were such stiff robots.
		He just, he just systematically beat them down one at a time.
		And there's so much more that can be done about our discourse.
		And, and I studied politics.
		I was a political science major.
		I know how the government is supposed to work versus how it works.
		So yeah, I think that would be... I don't know.
		I was about to say yes.
		That was weird.
		I have no idea.
		I like what I'm doing right now.
		I like being on the outside looking in.
		But who knows what the future is, right?
		Who knows?
unidentified		Any advice for someone who's trying to navigate campus politics?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Any advice for someone who's trying to navigate campus politics?
		That's a tough one because I'm not there right now.
		I went to Binghamton University, which is a state school in upstate New York, and I was there from 94 to 98.
		Seems like a long, long time ago.
		Campuses weren't like that, unless I completely missed it.
		I smoked a lot of pot.
		I didn't smoke any pot my freshman year.
		First joint I smoked was my sophomore year.
		Spent three years smoking a lot of pot and watching CNN.
		That's really what I would do.
		I don't recommend it.
		If you get really high enough there's some shit going on in Wolf Blitzer's beard that'll really trip you out.
		But what would I do?
		I would say, this goes to what I said earlier, which is, if you're in college right now and you're afraid to say what you think because some social justice warrior is going to scream you down or, you know, someone's going to call you a racist or a bigot or whatever and you're not, if you're afraid to say what you think now when you're 20 and you still have balls and you still have some ambition, what do you think your life's going to be like at 40?
		Right?
		So do not be afraid.
		Do not be cowed by these people.
		The reason they yell the most and they have the most righteous indignation is because they've demonized everyone else to a point that they don't have to listen to anybody else.
unidentified		And this is, look, I have no love for the far right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		In my entire life, I've said this a thousand times.
		In my entire life, I voted for a Republican once, and it was for Rudy Giuliani, who at that time was basically a Democrat, for the third term after 9-11, because I think he did a great job during 9-11 and sort of ushering some sanity into the city and what he did during that period of time.
		Every other vote I've ever cast in any sort of major election
		for a senator, governor, mayor, or president has been a Democrat.
		I'm not even proud of that, by the way, 'cause maybe that's pretty weak thinking in general.
		But my point is that I'm on what would be considered the left, because these are the people I voted for.
		So I have no love for the right, but I have no love for the left anymore either.
		And free thinking is what it has to be about.
		It has to be about logic and people's ability to extrapolate ideas.
		Like, don't be afraid of fucking ideas.
		That's the thing.
		That is the scary thing.
unidentified		You're gonna do shoutouts in a few minutes.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm doing shoutouts in a couple minutes.
		Okay, so we got a whole bunch of things to talk about here.
		So I'll talk about gun stuff for a minute.
		So first off, Steven Crowder.
		Has said he's going to buy me a gun.
		Which, listen, I'm for the Second Amendment.
		I believe more rights are better than less rights.
		That doesn't mean we don't have issues related to guns in this country.
		That doesn't mean that maybe the NRA has more power than it should.
		And that there are simple things to put in place that could maybe help some of this stuff that we don't do.
		Because look, other countries don't have the gun problems that we have.
		That said, I do believe that Americans should have access to firearms.
		And I'm willing to take the gun from him because I think it would be interesting just as a public person Let me find out what it actually is like, how much paperwork has to go involved, what kind of background, like, let me actually go through the process.
		So I think we're gonna do that.
		What I would say about guns at this very moment is that, look, if you look at the Orlando situation, if you had one of these guns that this guy had, I think it was a semi-automatic, originally they said it was an AR-15, it was something else, a GX, something or other, you guys can let me know in the comments.
		If you had one of these, if I had one of these things right here, literally right next to me, I would not pick it up and walk into a mosque and shoot random people.
		I would not pick it up and walk into a gay bar and shoot random people.
		And I would not pick it up and walk into a church or a temple or anywhere else and shoot random people.
		So it's not about the tool that is used to do bad things, because this person could have just as easily created a suicide vest in a bomb.
		Or another type of homemade bomb or a pressure cooker or any of those things.
		So it's a bad idea and it's sort of lazy thinking to blame it on the tool.
		What we have to talk about is the ideology that allows somebody to think that either non-believers or sinners or gays or Jews or any minority or any other other is evil and so evil that you're allowed to take it, that you will be rewarded with virgins in heaven or whatever else it is.
		I hope he's getting ass raped by 72 male virgins with no lube, by the way.
		But all of those things, we have to take into account that it's the ideology that makes someone do it.
		Because if they want to do something horrific, they will figure out a way to do it.
		So you can't make it about the guns.
		But as I've said many times on the show, two things that we do at the same time, and we could have two problems that we have to tackle.
		But again, this is again where The left immediately, the grandstanding that the Democrats did, it's like, how about you do your little sit-in in Congress but also talk about Islamic extremism.
		You're allowed to talk about it.
		And the more that the left makes it seem like any of us who do talk about it are bad or are racist or bigots or gross.
		The more strength they're giving to, they're making people with legitimate grievances and legitimate concerns, they're driving them to the other way politically.
		And that's just stupid.
		It's just flat out stupid.
		Alright, so a couple people are asking, in case you missed it at the beginning, When is the show coming back?
		So we're building this week.
		We're doing test shows on Friday.
		And then the hope is to start next week.
		We did have a hiccup with something related to what we're building on the walls, which may push us back a week.
		That would be the absolute latest.
		But I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that it will be next week.
		Because I want to get back, I want to get back in action, you know, and we got a lot of people that we're working on.
		Anyway, my team just left because of this issue that we're having with the walls.
		So they're both on the phone right now.
		So I can't see the comments right this very second.
		Or maybe there's some way that I can.
		Oh, they took my phone too.
		Okay.
		So yeah, it's very cool.
		More than anything else, I just, I'm really, I'm like, I was gonna say proud, but I'm really, I'm touched, actually.
		Like, that's how I feel.
		Like, I feel like I've been banging on this thing for a long time about the things that I care about and I talk about or whatever, and like, I could see like little rays Of sunshine bursting through for a while that what I was saying was resonating with people.
		But the dam has cracked now and there's something big.
		There's something much bigger than me and much bigger than this show.
		But we're a piece of it.
		We're maybe a through line to connecting some of these cool people that we've been able to connect with and I think there's so many more.
		And you know, we live in strange times right now.
		Because being smart is now counterculture.
		Our debate has gotten so stupid that it's time to be smart again.
		Let's make America sane again, not stupid anymore.
		How about that for- All right, so where were we at?
unidentified		Did you do any shout-outs?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I didn't do any shout-outs.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I lost you.
unidentified		Give me some shout-outs.
		All right, let's see here.
		We got a bunch.
		One second.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're going to do some shout-outs.
		I'm drinking like my 18th cup of coffee today.
		That's healthy, right?
unidentified		All right, Etherus.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Etheris.
unidentified		You can't say their name.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Etheris.
unidentified		She pledged 10 bucks.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Etheris.
unidentified		Dennis edited his pledge from 2 to 10.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Dennis went up from 2 to 10.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Good man, Dennis.
unidentified		Brendan, who spells his name the same as my brother, also went up from 2 to 10.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Brendan went up from 2 to 10.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Brendan.
unidentified		Justin.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Justin.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, Justin?
unidentified		Chris.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Chris.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Chris did a 15.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Justin.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I think I skipped the thank you on this, and then Chris did a 15.
unidentified		At Taxation is the... At Taxation is Theft Guy.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		At Taxation is Theft Guy.
		Clever to put your Twitter handle in there if that's what it was.
		He just pledged, so thank you.
		At Taxation is Theft Guy.
		Michael.
		Michael, thank you.
		Julie.
		Julie.
unidentified		She gave 20.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Nice, Julie, with 20 bucks.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Julie.
unidentified		We got Ray.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Ray, thank you.
		Adam.
		Adam, thank you.
unidentified		Torbjorn.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Torjbjorn.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Yeah, I think you said that right.
		Torbjorn.
		Yeah, Torbjorn.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Is that Norway or Sweden?
		Where are you?
		Thank you.
unidentified		Aaron.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Aaron, thank you.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Another 20 from Aaron, thank you.
unidentified		Ruxanda.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Ruxanda, thank you.
unidentified		And Joe gave two, but he still gets a shout-out.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		And Joe gave two, but we're giving bonus shout-outs.
		Thank you, Joe.
		Alright, really, thank you guys.
		Like, this is cool.
		This is cool.
		For a couple bucks a month, it all adds up.
		Look, as I said in the original launch video when we did this thing, we'll go for another 15 minutes.
		We'll go to...
		We'll go to 4.15 Pacific Time and then we'll see what we got here.
unidentified		We just got one from, first name is apparently, Regressives Have Stolen Medical School.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Ah!
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		We got, on Patreon, his first name is Regressives Have Stolen Medical School.
unidentified		I like that kind of creativity.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		And Luke.
		Luke Skywalker?
		Or just Luke?
unidentified		I don't know, you want to do last names?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Luke, may the force be with you.
		Thank you guys, yeah.
		As I said, when we started this thing, we didn't know where we were going to be at.
		So you guys have, this thing is already a success.
		And I appreciate that you guys have been, been tolerant that, you know, we haven't been able to get, we've been doing all this live stuff, but we haven't been able to get a ton of videos up, obviously, without a studio.
		But this is a good reminder, actually, you know, I've been doing a bunch on Periscope.
		So if you follow on Twitter, at Rubin Report, you can get something on there.
		Facebook.com slash Rubin Report, or Facebook.com slash Dave Rubin.
		That's the one that I do the live stuff on Facebook.
		And I'm trying to give you guys a little more insider stuff into my life.
		I did some happy hour stuff, and I got drunk on Patron in honor of Patreon, all that good stuff.
		All right, so we'll go another 15 minutes here.
		Oh, and what I was gonna say is, so right now as I'm watching this, I've seen the numbers have sort of jumped between, it looks like around 900, and I think we're at like 1200 at some point of the live viewers, and obviously more people will watch later.
		But what's cool is, you know, when I launched this thing, I said, look, we have about 200,000 subscribers when we did this.
		We're about 230,000 right now.
		So our numbers just keep growing and growing and growing.
		And what's beautiful is also on that is that you guys go in back and look at the library.
		So then it just, again, it just kind of feeds itself.
		It's very cool.
		But right now, I think with the 22,000 or so that we have on Patreon, that's from about 2,500 people.
		So it's people, it's on average, people are doing about nine bucks, something like that.
		A lot of people have done two, and a lot of people have done 50.
		So it's however you average that out.
		But point is, that out of 230,000 subscribers, we have about 2,300 or so patrons.
		So that means it's basically one in, that's one in 100, right?
		One in 230,000, and we got 230.
		So yeah, that's one in 100.
		And yet, so that seems like it's small, but it worked.
		And that shows the power of that every one of these dollars matters to build on cool things.
		Anyway, it's cool.
		All right, we'll do 15 minutes more, and then I gotta pee.
		A couple more shout-outs, a couple more shout-outs.
		Thank you, Carlos.
		Thank you, Jordan.
		Thank you, Chad.
		Jordan, Carlos, Trevor, and Chad.
		Sounds like a boy band.
		That could definitely be a boy band.
unidentified		All right, cool.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, if you want to just throw out a couple more topics that you guys want me to hit up, you can be personal.
		It doesn't have to be political.
		Whatever you guys want to know about, I'm totally down to share.
		Right.
		Go ahead and ask while I'm talking to you.
		Are you into horror movies at all?
		Am I into horror movies?
		When I was a kid, I was huge into horror movies.
		I remember the first time that I saw the original Nightmare on Elm Street and it scared the fuck out of me and my buddy John and Ari and Jason and I, we would have sleepovers and we'd watch We'd watch Nightmare on Elm Street, we'd watch Friday the 13th, The Walking Dead.
		We would find old horror movies and just scare the shit out of each other all night long.
		I don't know what our parents were letting us do.
		Screaming all night long.
		Nobody ever came down and told us to be quiet.
		I don't know what they were doing.
		I should have been a basketball player.
		That's really what I'm learning just by holding a basketball and talking.
		Again, the show is coming back, hopefully, next week.
		We're building out this week.
		We built out last week.
		Not only do we have to buy a ton of stuff, so literally, I'll just lay out some numbers for you, just so you know.
		We did, as I said, about 22,000 on Patreon, a month now, because that's what Patreon is.
		It's a month, so now we know we have our monthly budget.
		People jumped in on a lot of one-time donations on PayPal and were totally appreciative of whatever you gave and however you did it.
		People mailed us checks, whatever it is.
		We had to lay out about $30,000 worth of equipment in the studio.
		So that TriCaster that I showed you there before, I think that thing was $15,000.
		We've had to buy a lot of stuff, you know, floors and walls.
		All kinds of cameras and all kinds of other stuff.
		But it takes money to make money, and we're doing it, so it's all good.
		What do you got for me there?
		Just remind me of the shoutouts.
unidentified		Let's see, let's see.
unidentified		I'm trying to build a set.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		They're working over there, so I'll just keep rolling while we're doing this.
		No, but I guess somebody's asked about it.
		So yeah, I would love to have Trey and Matt on.
		The last season of South Park, they killed it.
		Like, absolutely killed it.
		They just crushed the social justice warrior stuff so freaking well.
		I would love to have them on.
		I contacted Comedy Central during the season, and they told me that they don't do press during the season, or that's what the Comedy Central people said.
		And then I contacted them after the season, and they said they need to shut down during post-season.
		So we'll get them when it's right.
unidentified		Look at this.
unidentified		Look at this palming.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty impressive.
		Yes, Peter Hitchens!
		We've been in contact.
		We will get him when the time is right.
		I can do between a fern and a ladder.
		That could be my show.
		You know, he's got two ferns.
unidentified		What if I do a fern and a ladder and a little stool?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		That'll be my show.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what else you got for me?
unidentified		They are actually building a wall over here.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right so let me just think about what else has been going on.
		Yeah so by the way we do have a master list of guests and we have like sort of tiers of like you know like the the ultimate wants and that includes some of the people that I mentioned before like you know Obama and Hillary and Trump and things like that yeah.
		Yeah, oh, and you can email us, contactatreubenreport.com.
		We see every single email.
		We see every single email.
		I cannot respond to all of them.
		And by the way, you guys, I'm not kidding, the essays, essays, I get pages and pages of emails.
		You guys are something else, like really something else.
		It's pretty awesome.
		But yes, feel free to mention things on there.
		A lot of times on Twitter all day long, people will be connecting me with other people.
		So yeah, we're on it.
		And again, If we can get the budget to where it's supposed to be, we can start doing a lot more shows.
		Basically, Adora, as I said, we did two hours a week.
		So we could, in effect, do two interviews per week.
		Here, it will be as big as we can grow it.
		Because we've got the studio space and we've got the studio time.
		So we just gotta grow it.
		Any other shoutouts?
unidentified		Yeah, Karina.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Karina, what's going on?
		How you doing?
		Thank you very much.
		Appreciate it, guys.
		That got us to $22,000.
		I was pushing it.
		I said by the end of this thing, 4-15, we'll get to $25,000.
		We're $3,000 away.
		Can we get to $23,000?
unidentified		Alright, $25,000 is ambitious.
unidentified		I get it.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Can we get to 23?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Who, can we get to 23?
		All right, 25, 25 is ambitious.
		I get it, that's ambitious, you know?
		But can we get to 23 right now?
		You know, people always say, this is what they say, they say, these YouTube commenters, they're the worst.
		That's what they say all the time.
		What do I say about you guys?
		Always, that we have built in an incredible audience here.
		And people even comment in our videos saying, I can't believe this is a YouTube comment section.
		So that's how you know we've done something well.
		But if you want to do more than just comment, it's patreon.com slash ReubenReport, in case you haven't.
		I feel like Jerry Lewis at the telethon.
		Now I'll bring out the ventriloquist.
		Here he is.
		Yeah, we did guns.
		We did some on guns.
		We did plenty on guns.
		Environmental regulation protection.
		I would say that basically we have one planet and it is a tiny blue dot in a giant solar system.
		And I read a lot of Carl Sagan and we got to take care of this planet while we can.
		I would say that we should have some degree of regulations.
		Look, certain regulations I think are sort of, you know, in America we think everything's about us.
		So we already went through our industrial revolution and we emitted all the emissions and the fossil fuels and the carbon and all that stuff.
		We did it as we were building this country.
		So, you know, when they have the Kyoto Protocol and all this stuff that the UN meets on to discuss climate change and all this stuff, It's like, it's a little disingenuous and unfair of the United States to tell other developing countries what to do, especially countries with huge populations that are just in their development phase, countries like India and China specifically, because they're just going through and doing what we had to do a long time ago.
		We just beat them to the punch.
		So for us to put regulations on them, now look, we know more things about the Earth than we did.
		I would highly recommend you check my interview with Dr. Michael Mann, who talks a lot, we did a whole thing on climate change.
		But at the same time, There's other arguments out there.
		A lot of people...
		Have asked me to have Alex Epstein on.
		Alex wrote a book called, I think it's called The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.
		99% sure that's what it's called.
		I'm gonna read it before I have him on, but we're gonna have him on a couple weeks to talk about that.
		Look, as a general rule, I'm not for a ton of regulation, because I think the more the government gets involved in things, the more that it screws things up.
		And a lot of times we're doing a lot of this for, it's just for our own edification, right?
		Like I live in West Hollywood here, And if I go to my local Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, which I go to on a very rare occasion, they don't give you, you can't get plastic bags, number one, and you have to pay extra for paper bags.
		Now, I don't know that ultimately that really, you take 10 years of local people with paper bags and no plastic bags, does that really do anything when you compare it to the amount that Industrialized nations that are just going through and now are putting out there.
		Does it really do anything?
		My guess is probably not, but in a way it kind of makes you feel good.
		And at least we're cleaning up our house here.
		So that's good.
		But I would say this for all the people that deny climate change or any of this stuff.
		If at the end of the day, we can figure out new jobs and a new economy and new ways of doing things and being more efficient at things and be better to the earth at the same time, whether or not the sea level is rising exactly how much they say it is right this second or any of that stuff.
		I would say generally that's good.
		And look, no industry stays forever.
		Things move and modify and everything else.
		And by the way, for all these people on the right that don't believe in climate change, I mean, that's what capitalism is, right?
		An industry goes as far as it can and then a new industry with new technology comes in and takes it further.
		So I don't think everyone should fear, if you're on the right and even if you're not down with climate change, you shouldn't fear new businesses coming in.
		That doesn't mean it's all right.
		There's plenty of stupid things related to the government like Solyndra that are dumb and inefficient.
		We got one planet, people.
		That's it.
		Believe me, if there was a second one, I'd be there.
unidentified		Yeah, quick shoutouts.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Gary.
		Thank you, Darren.
		Thank you, Chris, on PayPal.
		And that's it for right now.
unidentified		Some people want to know if we ever do anything out of the studio.
unidentified		One person's suggestion was maybe you versus Milo on the basketball court.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if we get to 30K, we could.
unidentified		if we get to 30K, we do it.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me versus Milo on the basketball court, I'm pretty sure Milo would not be a great basketball player,
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		but who knows, he's tall.
unidentified		People wanna see it.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		People would just wanna see it.
		Yeah, Milo's tall, so anything's possible.
		Would we do more out of the studio?
		So one of the things that I would love to do for sure, hold that thought, one of the things I would love to do
		is start taking the show on the road a bit.
		So again, if we get a bigger budget, first off, we could fly guests here.
		You know, the Skype thing's cool, for sure, but I would always rather sit across from somebody, look at them in the eye, you know, really get to have a conversation.
		There's just a simple difference.
		It's hard to describe exactly, but when you're sitting with someone, there is a... well, you know what it's like.
		It's like being on the phone versus FaceTiming somebody.
		You know, it's like being in person versus Facetiming somebody.
		There's a decency to it.
		So I would love to be able to have a budget to fly people out.
		Yes, I would love to be able to take the show on the road.
		I mentioned before going to some more colleges and things like that.
		So I would love, love, love to do that.
		I think it would be really cool.
		And there's every reason we can.
		That's the thing, we've started a production company here.
		So we now have the equipment that we need to be able to do this on the road.
		And hopefully go to more debates and, you know, even at, I don't think we can get to the conventions
		this year 'cause it's just gonna be too quick, but just when there are things that we should be at,
		I would love to be able to be there.
		And that's what we have to build out the budget for and earn the money through YouTube and some other deals that we're working on making and sponsors, so that we can do all these things.
		So you guys have given us the great runway that we needed to ensure that we can do all the things we wanted to.
		What do you got?
unidentified		What do I got?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Let's see, I don't know all.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		You had something good a second ago.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Did you say that you were going to say who was next year at 22 or at 25?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Did I say who was gonna be sexier?
		I think I said 25.
		Did I not say?
		If we're at 23, I'll do it.
		How about that?
		Between, I think it was, who was it for?
		It was for Milo and Crowder.
unidentified		Oh, Lord.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		There's no win there.
		There's no win for any of us there.
		If I tell one of them, then they'll be bragging forever.
		Yeah, there's just no win.
		There's no win.
		You see, this is Sophie's choice.
		Do you see what you've done to me, people?
unidentified		All right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Five more minutes doing live shout-outs.
		Patreon.com slash Rubin Report.
		We hugely appreciate what you guys have done here.
		Trust me, it was one thing for me to make this decision to do this and take this leap and make this decision that was not just a career decision but a life decision, but also that David joined me and that Amira joined me and voluntarily gave up their salaries.
		We were not fired from Aura.
		We have a perfectly good relationship with Aura.
		Aura might do some distribution stuff with us in the future.
		Larry King, My friend Larry King, who I'm thrilled to say is my friend, is the executive producer of this show.
		Meaning that Larry is going to be involved in some of the decision making and guest things and sort of as much as Larry wants to be involved in this and the fact that really I would argue the greatest interviewer of all time thinks that I'm pretty okay is pretty awesome.
		I've been invited to his, Larry does a breakfast with his old crew It's a really great mix of a lot of old-timers, but people of various ages, five days a week at different places around LA.
		And I've been invited to go whenever I want now, so I've gone a couple times.
		And it's just a bunch of really interesting guys that are arguing about politics and sports and life and really cool stuff.
		And the fact that I'm even involved in that at any level, it's mind-blowing in a lot of ways.
		It really is.
		All right, we got anything else?
		So we got about four minutes left.
		Patreon.com slash RubinReport.
		You guys have been very good to me.
		It's a miracle I haven't lost my voice in the last couple weeks from doing all these live things.
		And then I had my birthday this weekend, my big 40th.
		My brother and sister surprised me from New York, which was fantastic.
		I have eaten an absurd amount of food the last couple of days.
		I have drank A crazy amount of wine.
		I've made Tyrion in Game of Thrones look sober with the amount of wine I've drank.
		But I'm off the sauce all week to recover.
		Can you give a shoutout to Abraham?
		Abraham!
		Shoutout to Abraham!
		Thank you, my friend.
		Alright, so we've got about three minutes left, so these are the last questions, people.
		You feel free to throw them out there.
		David's reading them to me, Amira's setting up the old TriCaster.
		Etheris has edited her pledge to be even higher.
		Here, I'll give you a back-end view of the TriCaster being put together.
		Amira loves being on camera.
		She's, there's Amira's back end with the back end of the TriCaster.
		And away she goes.
		All right, there you go.
		So the other thing is, so the reason I turned the camera that way is because there is another piece of the studio here that is fantastic that I think we can do some really, really incredible stuff with that.
		It would be like nothing we've done before, but I just don't want to give it away just yet, but some really, really cool stuff that we can do.
		So it's very exciting.
		And also we have great, We got two minutes left, guys.
		We got great editing booths there.
		We got voiceover booths.
		We were thinking of maybe doing some animation stuff.
		I talked to somebody who's an animator.
		Where I would be narrating some cool things.
		So there's just like, there's just a lot we can do.
		There's just a lot we can do and we're ready to work hard.
		And you guys have shown us the money.
		And you know, this is very cool.
		So all right, two minutes left.
		Patreon.com slash ReubenReport or ReubenReport.com slash donate.
		And I'm feeling good.
		All right, here we go.
		We're in the final minute, 60 seconds left.
unidentified		Give me a good question to end this thing on.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to David.
		All right.
		I had meetings yesterday.
		So David is my executive producer.
		And my husband, at the same time, so that's two Davids right there.
		Well, I go by Dave.
		But yesterday we had, I think, three conference calls.
		Two of them were with people that were named David.
		Our Patreon contact is named David.
		Larry's executive producer is named David.
		We are in a David Paluzzo over here.
		All right, let's finish up strong, people.
		Give me one final question and then I'm gonna...
unidentified		I've been asking the same question a million times and you've answered already,
unidentified		but I think we should consider hosting discussion and debate between two people and you guys can be moderators.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we will do more discussion and we will do more of everything.
		Watch the end of The Muppet, which Muppets take Manhattan, and then you will know the secret to everything that will be in the future of The Rubin Report.
		If you remember, they have to put on a show in Manhattan and listen to what Kermit says, I believe, to Miss Piggy right before they put on the big show at the end.
		That is the secret to everything we're going to do here at The Rubin Report.
		We're gonna take the Rubin Report here, and we're gonna put it here,
		and then it will just go all the way up there.
		But it will be because of the process with which Piggy, or that Kermit told Piggy.
		All right, it is 4.15.
		Really, thank you guys.
		I'm humbled and honored.
		Last shout out to Brian.
		And a last shout out to Brian.
		You guys are... it takes a village.
		We are building this together.
		It's great.
		I'm excited and stay tuned for a lot more.
		Maybe we'll do another one of these live things to give you guys an update and I'll keep you posted on where we're at.
		Follow along in all those places and blah blah blah.
		And if it doesn't work out, I'm gonna be in the NBA.
		So we'll see.
		Alright, thanks guys.

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