April 30, 2016 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| All right, this is part two of our Ask Dave for today. | ||
| I tweeted out the link on ORTV to ask some questions, and you guys gave us a ton, so here we go. | ||
| Andrew asked, are you a libertarian yet? | ||
| I get a ton of messages asking me this. | ||
| I wouldn't say I'm a libertarian yet. | ||
| I do like a lot of things about libertarianism, about liberty, about limited government, and you doing with your life what you want to, and in the privacy of your own home, whether you want to be Gay in your bedroom or smoke pot in your bedroom, those things are up to you. | ||
| Classic liberalism and libertarianism are extremely close together and I want to explore that a little bit more. | ||
| I'm gonna try to get some professors and authors on here who can really help me dig into that. | ||
| But I wouldn't say I'm quite there yet, but I'm evolving. | ||
| I evolve on the show every week. | ||
| Mr. Jack MB, given how regressive many student unions in the UK and the US are becoming with no platforming policies and speech codes enforced on campuses, should students who deeply care about the free exchange of ideas distance themselves from them or seek to reform them from the inside? | ||
| I mean, this is just a question of tactics, right? | ||
| So we know about all of this stuff. | ||
| Even some of my former guests, like Milo Yiannopoulos, And Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder. | ||
| These guys are all on the right, right? | ||
| But they've been going to campuses and they get protested. | ||
| Now, it's absolutely your use of free speech is to protest people. | ||
| But if you go in and you don't let them speak or you're pulling fire alarms or things like that, then we have a social contract here. | ||
| You gotta let people speak and then use your speech to beat them with better ideas. | ||
| So as far as doing it from the inside or the outside, I think you probably need both in both movements. | ||
| But the most important thing is pushing your good ideas. | ||
| You know, all these kids that think that by silencing Milo Yiannopoulos or silencing Ben Shapiro that you're winning, you're actually losing because you're denying yourself and the people around you to be challenged. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| The more you get challenged, if your ideas are good, you'll double down and you'll get better at explaining them and spreading your own good ideas. | ||
| Stevie A.F. | ||
| said, when are you going to interview Dr. Bill Warner? | ||
| So I became familiar with Dr. Warner on Gadsad's channel. | ||
| He did a really interesting interview with him. | ||
| He comes from a science background and he talks about political Islam. | ||
| So he treats his critiques of all the religions and he studied all of the religions, | ||
| at least the main three Western ones and some others, I think. | ||
| He treats their critique in a scientific manner. | ||
| I think he's really brilliant. | ||
| And he really has been trying to make the distinction, the difference between Islamism, | ||
| meaning the political movement of Islam and the religious side of it, | ||
| which is a distinction that no matter how many times, as you guys know, no matter how many times we try to make | ||
| or anyone tries to make, people seem to conflate and confuse all the time. | ||
| So I have been in touch with Bill Warner, and it's gonna happen in the next couple weeks. | ||
| Mr. Tarone, if you had to vote Republican, including all of the candidates, who would you have voted for? | ||
| I assume you mean all the candidates that ran in this last cycle. | ||
| I'd say if I had to pick any of them, And I was not really impressed by any of them. | ||
| But if I had to pick any of them, I probably would have picked Rand Paul | ||
| because I think he was right on a lot of the NSA stuff. | ||
| Again, smaller government and liberty. | ||
| You know, interestingly though, Rand Paul for a libertarian, | ||
| you know, he wasn't quite there on gay marriage. | ||
| He was trying to punt it back to the state. | ||
| It's a moot point, and people are tired of talking about it, and the Supreme Court already made their decision. | ||
| But if he was trying to be a principled libertarian, then he would say, well, I don't care, marry whoever you want. | ||
| Or even on medical marijuana, he wasn't quite there, and he is a doctor. | ||
| So I don't think it was a great group of people. | ||
| I think if his voice had stayed in longer as a little more of a moderating force, | ||
| then maybe we wouldn't be where we're at right now. | ||
| Matt So Scene says, "Why don't you push back more on your guests | ||
| "that say things that have no basis in fact?" | ||
| Okay, so I think probably the, I don't know, 90% of what you guys send me on email or Twitter, | ||
| Facebook is all positive. | ||
| It's all positive or you're sharing some view or expressing something going on in your life, all great. | ||
| I think the one critique that I get more than any other is that people think that I sometimes don't push back | ||
| on my guests hard enough. | ||
| So I guess this is a good time for me to just explain a little bit of my view, | ||
| just my philosophy of interviewing people, which is that I let people speak. | ||
| And I think if you give them rope, either they will show you their good ideas, | ||
| those things will shine forth and they'll show you a clean line of thinking | ||
| and they'll show you that they know what they're talking about and they have command of the issues | ||
| that they're talking about, or you'll give them a long enough rope | ||
| that they'll hang themselves. | ||
| And I think that's the way that I prefer to interview, but you might like a way that somebody else does. | ||
| I don't need to show the person that's sitting across from me that I'm somehow smarter than them, or I'm morally superior, or anything. | ||
| Yeah, sometimes I have to pick and choose when to push back. | ||
| So for example, when I had Milo on a couple weeks ago, You guys know that a gajillion times I've made the distinction between the nominal Muslim person and radical jihadists, a thousand times. | ||
| He did not. | ||
| And I even said to him, Milo, I'll save you some hate here. | ||
| Do you want to make that distinction? | ||
| Do you want to go ahead and make that? | ||
| And he said, no, I don't. | ||
| He didn't want my help in that regard. | ||
| Now, all right, now you can make your judgment call on him. | ||
| Steven Crowder. | ||
| I got a ton of hate last week for having Steven Crowder on from people on the left that are supposed to be open to new ideas just for sitting down with the guy. | ||
| You have to be willing to sit down with someone, let him express his ideas, his or her ideas, and then let the chips fall where they may. | ||
| If the ideas are shitty, well then guess what? | ||
| They're not going to win a lot of followers. | ||
| So I have to pick and choose when I do it and I think the most important thing is having the discussions instead of yelling at each other, | ||
| which if you want people to yell at each other, there's a gajillion other channels for you to find out. | ||
| Benbo247 says, "Do you prefer interviewing liberal guests "or conservative guests?" | ||
| You know what, I really don't think about it either way. | ||
| I think I like interviewing people that I think are intellectually honest | ||
| or at least intellectually consistent, who are smart, who are gonna challenge some of my thoughts. | ||
| I think pretty much every week that I've interviewed somebody here, and we've done about 34 shows or so, | ||
| that I've learned something and I've tried to apply whatever I've learned into the next week's show. | ||
| And sometimes I learn things that, not because someone said something that I agree with, | ||
| but because they said something I don't agree with, and that makes me understand my line of thinking | ||
| a little bit more. | ||
| So I don't really care if they're liberal or conservative. | ||
| Sadly, that where I'm at right now because of this whole regressive left thing | ||
| is that I do find it easier to sit across sometimes. | ||
| From conservatives and have a discussion, have a back and forth and disagree with them versus if I was going to have some of the regressive people on the show who have so consistently proven that their intentions are not good because some of the tactics they use. | ||
| And by the way, that is no defense of some of the tactics that the right uses. | ||
| But as I always say, I'm trying to clean up my side. | ||
| That sort of gets to this question, which is from Rob, and he said, hey Dave, would you ever consider inviting those that hail from the regressive left to be on your show? | ||
| So first off... | ||
| I'm really happy to talk to anyone. | ||
| Short of, unless you're just someone that's absolutely spewing, like, true vile hate or real bigotry or, you know, like, real just awfulness, I would talk to pretty much anybody. | ||
| So, as for the regressives, yeah, I mean, sure. | ||
| Cenk, Reza, Glenn, you want to come on the show? | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Martin, so I've heard you outline a lot of problems with the regressive left, and I do not disagree, but where do we go next? | ||
| It's not like the right, nor New Center, have any amazing ideas to further the progress of mankind in any meaningful way. | ||
| Right now it's just a bunch of people talking in circles. | ||
| You have the option to take your show further. | ||
| So I love this question. | ||
| This is probably my favorite question that we got. | ||
| Where do we go? | ||
| Well, look, we had to address this, right? | ||
| So something's happened here. | ||
| There's no doubt. | ||
| The amount of growth that we've had, it took us about two and a half years to get to 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. | ||
| Any day now, probably tomorrow or the next day, we're going to hit 200,000 just in the last six months. | ||
| And that's just on YouTube. | ||
| We're on Aura and we're on Roku and all kinds of other places. | ||
| And the show's on iTunes now and all that. | ||
| And just from the general response we get and everything else, something has happened here. | ||
| And I'm not the only one doing it, by the way. | ||
| Plenty of the people that I've had on my show have been huge voices in this from Gad and Sam and Majid | ||
| and Christina Hoff Summers and everybody else. | ||
| But yeah, you can't just address the problem without a solution. | ||
| One of my big issues with the regressives is that they're always just fighting everybody instead of trying to promote better ideas. | ||
| So I think we're getting close to the time where it won't even be relevant, it won't even be important, For me to be talking about the regressives because it'll be understood that this group exists and now we have to not only beat them with better ideas, which I think we're doing already, but now we have to find some solutions. | ||
| So maybe that'll be the next sort of shift of where this show goes. | ||
| I look forward to finding out. | ||
| Abishek said, do you find in our fight against the regressive left that we have unintentionally shared the bed with alt-right ideologies of climate change denial, anti-abortion, Western supremacism? | ||
| This is a good question, too. | ||
| You know, a few people have said this to me, that by being so critical of the regressives, am I somehow in bed now with the right? | ||
| I am not. | ||
| Again, I have literally never voted for a Republican, ever, in my entire life, right? | ||
| So for those issues, so climate change, you know, I had a climate change scientist on here, one of the top climate change scientists in the country, Dr. Michael Mann, and we did an entire episode, an entire hour-long episode with him sharing his ideas and what he's learned scientifically on climate change. | ||
| So yes, then I had Crowder on last week, and Crowder doesn't believe in man-made climate change. | ||
| And quoted some sort of loosely understood polls of scientists or something. | ||
| And I said, well, now you guys hear. | ||
| I had the climate change scientists on for an hour. | ||
| I had this conservative on to say this, and now you can decide. | ||
| You know, that also goes to something like, I disagree with Crowder on abortion. | ||
| I'm pro-choice. | ||
| He's pro-life. | ||
| But there's some way you can have that discussion without demonizing everybody. | ||
| So for me, as I said in the interview with him, At some point, that life, you can't just tell me that two weeks before a nine-month pregnancy is due, that if you have an abortion, you're not killing someone. | ||
| That just seems crazy to me. | ||
| But we have to have the honest discussion about, well, okay, if you're gonna say, well, you can't have abortions after four months, let's say, so you're pro-choice for the first four months, and then after that, you believe that there's a life there, well then, does the government then have a role to help those people? | ||
| Or not, but we have to have that discussion. | ||
| So I don't think I'm aligning with those people at all. | ||
| What I'm trying to do is show some of their ideas without demonizing them, because that's how you have a healthy discussion, and that's how you move forward, actually. | ||
| ChessNerdSommers says, after you die, what do you wish people to remember you most by? | ||
| That is depressing. | ||
| I'd say hopefully that I tried to have some honest discussion here, that you guys got to understand the way I think and the things that I care about, and that maybe I was a little ahead of the curve when it came to some of this stuff, and that through this show and what I do and getting my ideas out there, that I helped some good ideas kind of percolate on the way up. | ||
| That would be pretty good. | ||
| It's a lot to put on a tombstone. | ||
| What is the best, worst, best and worst film you've ever seen? | ||
| This is at Eric Mrozik. | ||
| I've said this a couple times, my favorite movie of all time is Contact. | ||
| It was written by Carl Sagan, the great scientist. | ||
| It was his only fiction book, which then became a movie with Jodie Foster. | ||
| I just love the scientific use. | ||
| It's sci-fi, but it's really based in science, very much the way "Interstellar" was. | ||
| And I think the worst movie I ever saw was just a couple weeks ago on Netflix. | ||
| I saw "The Ridiculous Six," which is one, Adam Sandler has this deal with Netflix, | ||
| I think for six maybe, or four or six movies. | ||
| And it was just the worst garbage I have ever seen. | ||
| It wasn't even a movie. | ||
| It was like the most loosely tied together, just unfunny drivel. | ||
| I tried to laugh. | ||
| Halfway through, I was like, I gotta try to laugh at some point, and I could not do it. | ||
| It was, watch it just to see what, like, true horror. | ||
| It was a horror movie, actually, more than a comedy. | ||
| Dan DS Fishel, if you were offered to host a late night show, would you? | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| What do you got for me, Dan? | ||
| Let me know. | ||
| Alright, thank you guys. | ||
| We're going to keep doing these and I appreciate the support. | ||
| And there were literally probably another hundred questions that we didn't get to. | ||
| So just keep doing them and we'll keep doing this. |
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