Rubin Report - Dave Rubin - Dave Rubin on Identity Politics and Prejudice | DIRECT MESSAGE | Rubin Report
Aired: 2016-01-27
Duration: 02:35


=== Care Beyond Labels (02:33) ===

[00:00:02]  One of the reasons I like doing long-form interviews is that I can really focus in on important issues with my guests.
[00:00:08]  In many cases, the issues are inextricably connected, making it easy to go from topic to topic.
[00:00:14]  If we're talking about political correctness, that's a pretty easy jump to free speech, which is then another easy jump to the regressive left.
[00:00:22]  Sometimes these jumps just appear when I'm not looking for them, and that's usually when the conversations get really good.
[00:00:28]  It's the spaces where you have to think that are the breeding ground to spark new ideas.
[00:00:34]  My guest this week is civil rights attorney and legal expert Areva Martin.
[00:00:38]  I've done the Dr. Drew show on HLN several times with Areva and always find her to be incisive, thought-provoking, and passionate.
[00:00:45]  While we've appeared together several times, this will be the first time we really get to flesh out some ideas in a long-form way without worrying about a commercial break.
[00:00:54]  Areva and I are going to dive into a ton of hot topics and big ideas this week.
[00:00:58]  We're going to discuss everything from the Black Lives Matter movement, to the war on drugs, to the Oscars So White controversy.
[00:01:04]  As a Harvard educated black woman who founded and manages her own very successful law firm, I don't think I could find a better person to tackle so many important issues with than Areva.
[00:01:14]  You see what just happened there?
[00:01:15]  I just played some identity politics, didn't I?
[00:01:18]  Areva happens to be black and happens to be a woman, but in reality, how is that important to our conversation?
[00:01:25]  Actually, I don't really think it is.
[00:01:27]  I assume some of her views are based on her own personal experiences, but what I care about are her ideas, not the color of her skin or her gender.
[00:01:37]  We really have to get over the idea that by looking at someone you can figure out what they're all about.
[00:01:42]  I literally could not care less about someone's skin color, their religion, or their sexuality.
[00:01:49]  What I care about is their ideas.
[00:01:52]  What do they believe?
[00:01:53]  Why do they believe it?
[00:01:53]  Are they right?
[00:01:54]  Are they wrong?
[00:01:55]  What kind of world are they trying to create?
[00:01:57]  That is simply all that matters to me.
[00:02:01]  There are black conservatives out there.
[00:02:02]  There are Mexican libertarians.
[00:02:04]  There are lesbian Christians.
[00:02:06]  And there are cisgendered, blue-haired, video game-playing, bisexual Quakers.
[00:02:10]  And if you care about all those labels more than the ideas that the people themselves believe in, then you are actually part of the problem.
[00:02:18]  If you truly care about minorities, then you have to care about minorities within those minorities.
[00:02:24]  If you truly care about diversity, then you have to acknowledge diversity within diversity itself.
[00:02:31]  We should be defined by what we believe, not prejudged by people's assumptions.