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Nov. 4, 2015 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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Joining me on the show this week is author, speaker, and associate director of the Henry Jackson Society, Douglas Murray.
I've been familiar with Douglas' work for almost a year now.
His name kept popping up in my Twitter feed after the Charlie Hebdo shootings.
Like last week's guest Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Douglas has been a relentless defender of free speech, even when it is unpopular to do so.
Part of my awakening about the regressive left came around the same time as Charlie Hebdo.
When I saw more concern for political correctness than for the victims of the horrific attack.
I was really impressed with Douglas' clean and clear explanation of why free speech must be protected at all costs, and that's one of the issues we're going to talk about today.
This is where I should tell you that Douglas Murray is a neocon.
The word neocon sounds kind of evil to me, sort of like a Decepticon.
And like Decepticons, neocons are big on world domination.
Or are they?
Well, that's what we're gonna find out when we talk to Douglas today.
You know, we get so lost in throwing around labels all the time that we hardly know what they mean anymore.
As I understand it, a neocon is someone who wants to spread democracy through military intervention.
And we all know how well that usually works out, right?
Well, this is just generally thought of in the American lens, but is it the same for the British?
I wanna find that out.
Am I way off altogether?
I wanna find that out too.
And that's what we're going to talk about.
Some of you might be thinking, Dave, you've been labeling the regressive left for weeks now.
How is that different than labeling someone a neocon?
I think the thing is here that we had to identify what the regressive left stands for so that we could also identify what we stand for.
As I've said before, I felt the need to talk about the lunacy on the left because there just weren't enough voices amplifying the battle of ideas that you guys all want to have.
That's why you're here and that's what I'm going to continue to do.
So today, as I sit here with someone firmly on the right, a scary neoconservative, let's all have a battle of ideas and actually listen to what he says and then formulate opinions on those ideas.
Let's not do what the regressive left does, which is label someone and then prejudge everything they say based on that very label.
I think there's going to be agreement, disagreement, and everything in between.
And it's our ability to have those honest conversations and know that people we disagree
with can feel as just and as principled as we do.
That's the spirit that I'll continue to do this show in.
While I do want to continue having these types of conversations, I also want to assure you
guys that we're going to be widening the net around here as well.
I want to talk politics, science, culture, and more.
Of course, free speech and the battle of ideas will always be a mainstay, but I don't want to become a one-trick pony either.
Next week I have two people who are putting many of the ideas we've been talking about into action.
David Keyes and Faisal Almutar from AdvancingHumanRights.org.
They're using the tools of democracy to help advance human rights in parts of the world where the people are most affected by the ideas we've been talking about.
The point is, I'm going to keep mixing it up.
Keep letting me know what you guys think and who you want me to talk to.
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