You can hear it among the MAGA dead-enders all the time: "Thomas Massie is just another Democrat." And "Thomas Massie is just a showboater who never really puts in the work." The President attacks him relentlessly and is bringing in millions of dollars to defeat him in his district. What's the truth about Thomas Massie? Why do they really hate him?
You can hear it among the MAGA dead-enders all the time: "Thomas Massie is just another Democrat." And "Thomas Massie is just a showboater who never really puts in the work." The President attacks him relentlessly and is bringing in millions of dollars to defeat him in his district. What's the truth about Thomas Massie? Why do they really hate him?
You can hear it among the MAGA dead-enders all the time: "Thomas Massie is just another Democrat." And "Thomas Massie is just a showboater who never really puts in the work." The President attacks him relentlessly and is bringing in millions of dollars to defeat him in his district. What's the truth about Thomas Massie? Why do they really hate him?
You can hear it among the MAGA dead-enders all the time: "Thomas Massie is just another Democrat." And "Thomas Massie is just a showboater who never really puts in the work." The President attacks him relentlessly and is bringing in millions of dollars to defeat him in his district. What's the truth about Thomas Massie? Why do they really hate him?
You can hear it among the MAGA dead-enders all the time: "Thomas Massie is just another Democrat." And "Thomas Massie is just a showboater who never really puts in the work." The President attacks him relentlessly and is bringing in millions of dollars to defeat him in his district. What's the truth about Thomas Massie? Why do they really hate him?
This is the Ron Paul Liberty Report with Ron Paul, Daniel McAdams, and Chris Rossini.
We're all ambassadors of the Ron Paul doctrine, and it's so simple.
Just tell the truth.
Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today, we have Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you this morning.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you?
Doing well.
Doing well.
It's getting a little warmer.
Yeah, thank goodness.
Maybe, you know, we're a bunch of sissies.
You know, we have two days of frost, and we can't wait for spring.
I know, I know.
You have decent weather, you want it all the time.
Anyway, we don't have a whole lot of control about it.
I know we can control politics in Washington and all the wars and the inflation, but we can't control the weather.
Maybe the CIA can.
Well, it used to be the Russians, but they don't even get enough credit to blame the Russians for good or bad weather.
You know, today we want to talk about a system that exists in the government that we've been well aware of, and that is how people are treated, either if they're not playing ball or they're doing things out of order.
And of course, one individual who's been on the receiving end of some vicious, vicious stuff coming from colleagues, that, of course, is Thomas Massey.
So they're after him, and he's committed political crimes.
They're so bad that the people are working to get rid of him.
But what does his record show?
Well, it's starting to show up in the records, and he's fighting back because his record is sort of pretty darn good.
But the Republican Party and the leadership in the Public Party says he's no good because he won't do exactly what we tell him.
Oh, he votes 90-something percent with the president.
That's not good enough.
But when we need one single vote to really increase the budget and he won't even budge on it, he's no good.
And we have to punish him.
So that is what's happening.
And it reminds me of some of the long evenings we would spend in Congress where they didn't have enough votes and they kept the vote open for three or four hours.
You'd go into the middle of the night.
And I often sat there and watched it because I was interested in what they were saying and doing.
And, you know, it would start with people, low-level people in the Congress would try to persuade this individual to change the vote.
And it would go on.
And then they would finally work up after hours.
They finally get the top leader.
And it could be the president, or, you know, could be the speaker or somebody, the highest official in the party.
And I can remember them going down there.
And the clinching vote, always, the clinching argument was always, you have to be a team player.
Team player.
And they didn't yell and shout.
They'll be, are you a team player?
You know, you have to be a team player around here.
And that implies your position on the position on the committees and ability to get bills passed and all that.
If you're not a team player, you can't work to save the Republic.
So that's what that was going on here.
And they've run into somebody that happens to be very loyal.
But the charge is he's disloyal to the president.
He's disloyal to the Republican Party and the leadership.
That's his crime.
So what about loyalty?
Do you get any pluses for loyalty to your oath of office?
Nah, that's old-fashioned.
That's anachronism.
We don't do that.
Are you dedicated and loyal to the Constitution?
Oh, no, that's not necessary either.
It's a living, flexible document.
So the politics deal with that.
And I think that the whole thing, the ultimate test, and it fits into our argument that there's really, you know, it's not a Republican problem or a Democratic Party.
It's a congressional problem.
It's this whole system that we've deteriorated into a system that I think is driven by moral bankruptcy and financial bankruptcy.
And there's no easy answer.
They're looking for the easy answer.
They don't come.
So they have to blame somebody.
But tell you what, it would be a tragedy if they get away with lying through their teeth about Thomas Massey and from the views of the principles of liberty and following the oath of office.
That would be a travesty if that happens.
So if anybody's listening to our program today, because we're coming in defense of Thomas Massey and the Constitution, and it's nothing brand new, and he's not going by this easily.
He's fighting back, and he has some arguments that are pretty strong.
The thing that I think a lot of Americans don't understand, and having spent so much time on the Hill in the House, is the tyranny of leadership, you know, because you absolutely hit it on the head.
Are you a team player?
Well, team player means that you follow the leadership, and that's, you know, completely.
But are you a team player?
If they don't consider you a team player, i.e. doing the bidding of the whip, of the speaker, of the leadership, of the committee leaders, if you're not considered someone who does their bidding, then you're right.
They have so many tools to deny you your legitimacy in Congress, right?
Thomas Massey's 600,000-plus constituents deserve every bit as much representation in the House as anyone else's.
But they won't get it if the leadership, and not just Massey, other people that have been renegades, some of whom may be close to me right now, are always denied these things.
So they're denied the ability to properly represent their constituents.
And that really is a problem with the House.
And it's gotten worse, I think, since we've been out.
You know, the problem is it's a struggle for power.
And I find it very entertaining when they'll be doing a bill.
And I've heard it a couple of times in this recent mess that they're going through now.
He's able to, oh, you're a Democrat and we want to do this.
You used to do this.
You introduced this bill.
Won't you go with us?
And they won't because the loyalty immediately is for the party.
But most of the time, the really big issues, they do come together, you know, when it comes to a military-industrial complex and running up the deficits and all that stuff.
They do participate.
But power is a big deal.
And the other thing that they don't add when they were arguing on the floor to change their vote, they don't say it.
What they were implied is, you got to have us to raise your money.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
Raise your money.
And I, you know, early on, I think the first week or two, I was there.
Well, you have to go here.
There's a meeting in there because they're the ones who are going to raise your money.
And I did show.
Yeah.
Well, they help you raise it, and then you kick some back to them so you can get good positions on the committee.
Oh, that's my matter of fact.
There's a number.
You know, used to be like $500,000 or a million, but I think it's millions of dollars to become a campaign chairman.
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Because the people love him.
Yeah, that's right.
Well, one of the reasons we're bringing this up today, and we even sort of hesitate to give this more air than it deserves.
But unfortunately, President Trump has been leading the charge.
There's no secret.
We've talked about it before.
He has been leading the charge against Thomas Massey.
He's also been, just frankly, let's just say it, he's been lying about Thomas Massey and his record.
And we will prove that later on in today's program.
But the thing that happened differently, and he's done it once before, is doing something that I consider unspeakable, which is making fun of Thomas Massey's personal life, attacking his personal life, the fact that he's remarried now, that his wife passed away.
And he's doing it in such an unacceptable way.
Let's put this first clip up.
I struggle to not say something stronger.
But he put out a few days ago: people are saying that Thomas Massey became a liberal because his new wife, blessed be their marriage, is supposedly a radical left flamethrower.
This new union all went so fast that maybe he didn't know what he was getting into.
But nevertheless, he's an absolutely terrible and unreliable Republican, perhaps a rhino, or maybe even worse.
Ed Gallery, a farmer and war hero, is running against Massey.
He's a man of high quality, blah, blah, blah.
He's running because he realizes Massey has been totally disloyal to the president and to the Republican Party.
He never votes for us.
He always goes with the Democrats.
Thomas Massey is a complete and total disaster.
We must make sure he loses big.
Now, we both have had experience with Thomas Massey's current wife.
We've worked with her not directly, well, you have directly.
But let's leave it to our good friend Tom Woods, who put something up.
It's on today's LewRockwell.com, where he answered some of this, if we can put that next clip up, because Tom knows very well what's going on.
Now, this is Tom Woods on today's LewRockwell.com.
Tom says, it's hard to know where to start here.
Number one, Thomas Massey has the most conservative voting record in the entire Congress.
So he is not a liberal, especially in the sense that Trump means.
Number two, Massey's wife, the former Carolyn Maffa, is no radical left flamethrower.
Whoever led the president, told the president that is out of his mind.
I first got to know Carolyn 15 years ago when she was working for Campaign for Liberty, the organization Juan Paul founded after his first GOP presidential campaign.
At Dr. Paul's request, I wrote the statement of principles for that organization, and you can be assured there was nothing left-wing about it.
Now go to the next one.
Here's Tom Woods still commenting on this.
None of this applies to Carolyn.
So to subject her to this is deranged, especially because the worst of the sycophants just echo what the president says.
I can't tell you how many people really think that Massey votes with the Democrats most of the time.
And we are speechless, and they are speechless when I explain to them that Trump is well to the left of Massey on pretty much everything that separates them.
Number three, in fact, and you said this before, Dr. Paul, in the intro, Massey votes with Trump 91% of the time.
And the other 9% are when major promises are being broken.
Now, we've talked about it on the show before.
I've known Carolyn when she used to come over and visit when we were working for you on Capitol Hill.
She was working for Senator Paul, a well-known radical left flamethrower, right?
I mean, it's just so preposterous and insane.
And it's really, it's demeaning to the office.
You know, I never want to rush to judgment and not know exactly what he said.
So I thought, you should look it over because it might have been a typo.
After you went through all that and looking at what Tom Woods has put on, I think, I don't know what the word would be, but it ain't typo, a typo.
I don't know.
It's so strange.
It's so strange.
You know, I guess I would describe it, I'll try to get as soft as possible.
It's uncontrolled meanness.
Yeah, They're just being mean.
And except his ability to intimidate people, whether it had been in business or in politics, you know, superficially there's been some successes.
But it turns out that right now, things seem to be rapidly changing in the economic sphere and even in the foreign policy and a monetary sphere.
So things are rapidly changing.
But I'm not a bit surprised at what we're facing because I work on an assumption that I've made and it's on my own assumption.
But I see things in the light of the fact that I believe the country has a moral bankruptcy and also a financial bankruptcy.
And there's combined and lying is permissible.
And that's what we have.
It is, absolutely.
Well, I put together, I mean, actually, Thomas Massey did most of our work for us today because he put out a brilliant thread on X yesterday because he was getting a ton of heat.
He voted against the rules bill to bring the omnibus to the floor, which for you, that was a rare occurrence.
It had to be really egregious.
And so he explained his vote.
And I would challenge anyone who actually considers themselves conservative in any remotely identifiable way, you know, from the Reagan conservative to even just a few years ago conservative, just look at this bill of particulars that Massey explained and say, is he being conservative or is he being a radical liberal?
Put this next one up.
I'm just going to go through a few of these, Dr. Paul.
He said, I voted against the rule to bring this omnibus forward for a vote.
Here's a breakdown of some of the most ridiculous items included in the omnibus and some America first items that were not.
I offered amendments to correct all of these errors.
All of them were blocked or refused.
Now let's go through a couple of these.
Hit that next one.
And he shows you in the bill where this occurred.
So people know he's not just making it up.
$5 billion to provide cash benefits, health care, daycare, and job programs to refugees on the taxpayers' time.
Okay, he voted against that.
I think most conservatives would agree with him.
Go to the next one.
$315 million to fund the CIA's branch of the State Department that propagandizes and destabilizes the globe and has a particular interest in censorship and attacking conservative media outlets.
And you can see that is the National Endowment for Democracy.
That's in there.
$300 million.
Go to the next one.
$3,300,300,000 to Israel.
Now go to the next one.
You can see it right there in the bill.
The next one.
Oh, and an extra $500 million for Israel.
So they get a little bit on top.
But it's not just Israel.
Keep going.
This is in the bill.
$1.5 billion for Egypt.
Got to make sure we cover both sides of the Suez.
Go to the next one.
And we can't let the Jordanians feel left out.
$2.1 billion for them.
Go to the next one.
Nearly $700 million for foreign HIV and AIDS.
That's certainly what I think about when buying groceries back home in Kentucky.
And he went on to say this is just part of the terrible things in the bill.
Anyone looking at this, Dr. Paul, and looking at his refusal to endorse this and calling him a liberal for refusing foreign aid, that used to be the cornerstone of the Republican Party.
Yeah, you know, this is something, and he brought it up by my subject, that you look back and people are suffering because they have price inflation because it has to be paid for.
And they can't gouge and tax people more, but they can give them the inflation tax.
So this is something that people don't realize.
Those two things have to come together.
All that financing there, they should look at this and the people should not say, yes, but that's different than my food stamps.
And military industrial industry, they justify it because they're saving the world.
They're working for peace.
You guys aren't for peace.
You're just for just fussing and fuming.
So, no, this is, no, I think that just getting that message, I don't know what will happen or what they'll do.
But I'll tell you what, this little debate we're having here today seems awfully minor compared to the big ones, you know.
But to me, this is the big issue.
And the system, the markets, and the road to peace, it's all on the line.
And I think that I don't know how the election will turn out, but I do know one thing.
Speaking the truth will last a lot longer than people that make up stories and will lie about their opponents and try to do harm that way.
Absolutely.
You know, one of the attacks, criticisms that Trump wrongly makes about Thomas Massey, and it's echoed by all of his MAGA dead enders, you know, the people who, no matter what Trump says, will repeat it.
And, you know, Trump is, you know, as we've said, he's a mixed bag.
But in this, he's dead wrong.
But people will say, Trump says, and people follow it, he's a grandstander.
He never puts in the effort.
Massey never puts in the effort.
All he wants to do is sit around and vote no.
Well, this next segment will show that the opposite is true.
He put in a lot of effort to try to make this bill digestible to conservatives.
And let's just look because he does the work for us and tells us exactly what he did.
If you put that next one up, he says we could keep going with the ridiculous provisions, but we can't leave out the America first items that Republican leadership refused to include.
Refused.
My amendment to prevent the government from installing a kill switch in your personal vehicle.
Cut that one out.
Go to the next one.
My amendment was blocked to freeze the funds for daycare fraud.
I thought that was a big issue, Dr. Paul.
Daycare fraud.
He had an amendment to freeze the funds.
Nope.
Republicans wouldn't let that go into the bill.
Go to the next one.
Blocked.
My amendment to stop warrantless surveillance of Americans via loopholes in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
Well, that used to be a conservative issue, having the government spy on us.
Nope, blocked.
You can't have that in there.
Go to the next one.
Blocked.
My amendment to end the propagandizing of U.S. citizens by the State Department and the U.S. Agency for Global Media.
I didn't think that conservatives wanted the government to propagandize us.
Go to the next one.
Blocked.
My amendment to stop the creation of central bank digital currencies that will be used for financial surveillance and control of your wallet.
That sounds like a good amendment to us, Dr. Paul.
And the next one, more importantly, this is the last one, blocked.
And this is going to make you sick, Dr. Paul.
The inclusion of the SAVE Act to protect our elections from illegal aliens, a top priority for conservatives.
He tried to get this act, the SAVE Act, into the bill, Dr. Paul, to give us election integrity.
They said, nope, not going to happen.
So people saying that he didn't bother to try to make the bill better, that's totally untrue.
You know, this reminds me of a little quote that I like to use, and I use the wording all the time, and that is that truth is treason when the government gets out of control and there's too much debt and there's a world empire.
Truth is treason.
This is exactly what they're doing.
They're treating him like he's treasonous and, you know, defying the party.
As far as they're concerned, that is what treason is.
If you don't obey the orders of the king.
But this is coming to an end.
This is climactic.
This might be one of these last stages where all of a sudden truth breaks out.
And truth is actually stronger than these laws because you can't hide what's going on in this country.
The evasion of our privacy, our civil liberties, the ongoing threats around the world, and being in 120, 30 countries.
It just goes on and on.
It just won't last.
And I think what we're seeing is well into the beginning of the dissolution of all this system.
And unfortunately, it spells trouble.
It really spells a lot of trouble.
And it could have been avoided.
It could be helped, even if you come late and decide you want to live within the principles of the Constitution and the principles of liberty.
Absolutely.
Well, I do want to shout out to James Cabal.
He just kicked in $30 to the show with the super chat.
We appreciate that.
He said, Just Frost, try a foot of snow in Northern Kentucky.
Have no fear, Daniel and Dr. Paul.
Massey has plenty of support in his district.
I look forward to voting for him in May and November.
That's a good move, James.
And thanks for the good news.
Yeah, good news.
And there's going to be a lot more of them.
And again, the title of this is Why Do They Hate Thomas Massey?
I think this is another reason why they hate him.
If you go to that next clip, Thomas Messie can't be bought, just like Ron Paul couldn't be bought.
Here is his track, APAC numbers.
The amount of money he has received in APAC donations is a big fat zero.
He doesn't take APAC.
He doesn't take donations from any pack, from any pack.
And that's why they're mad, because he can't be bought.
He's not for sale.
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You know, that's a big issue.
And I work on the assumption that eventually it'll backfire and that in spite of all the money and all the support and all the weapons, Israel will not be safer.
It's likely that Israel will lose its ability to defend itself because it's become dependent on a system that I think when you start seeing the various countries now looking on alternatives for the world reserve currency and all that's going on now and the economic arrangements that's occurring, that there's going to be a lot of lines redrawn.
But they've been drawn in the past, especially in the Middle East, ever since World War I.
And it really hasn't worked.
There's been nothing fair about it.
And there were times when the Middle East, with the various religions and beliefs, the people got along much better.
So I think there are opportunities in this mess and that people have to have something to hang on to.
And why isn't it that of non-intervention and that of voluntarism, no matter whether it's personal liberty or economic liberty or getting along with our foreign friends?
I want to thank everybody for tuning in today to the Liberty Report.