Libertarian broadcaster Tom Woods recently helped produce a powerful short documentary on US Rep. Thomas Massie in defense of the most pro-freedom and pro-peace Member of the US House. Why are the President and so many other Republicans so determined to push him out of office?
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Let's Support Thomas Massey
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| Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report. | |
| With us today, we have Daniel McAdams, our co-host. | |
| Daniel, welcome to the program. | |
| Good morning, Dr. Paul. | |
| How are you this morning? | |
| Good. | |
| And I'll bet you know we have a special guest today. | |
| A good friend of ours and a good friend of Liberty. | |
| Boy, that's for sure. | |
| And this is wonderful that we have him on, but he's also going to talk to you about some of the things that he's doing to try to preserve and save and encourage the best member of the House of Representatives right now, and that's Thomas Massey. | |
| So, Tom, welcome to the program. | |
| You've done some fantastic work in trying to build up support for Thomas because understand there are some Republicans and Democrats. | |
| He must be telling the truth. | |
| They're both after him. | |
| You know, when both sides are after, you know, he's on the right track. | |
| So this is good. | |
| And Thomas is, I remember him very specially because he got into Congress three months earlier than his class did because there was an open seat. | |
| And so we talk about it and we say, well, we were in Congress together. | |
| I think it was like two months because he was, I was getting out and he was coming in. | |
| So he was a co-congressman at one time. | |
| So Tom, I want to welcome you to the program. | |
| Once again, you've been with us many, many times and we certainly appreciate that. | |
| But we certainly appreciate you going the extra mile and trying to straighten this mess out because there's a lot of fickleness in Washington. | |
| And I've always argued that there's really not two party systems. | |
| And when you're telling the truth, you know, there's two parties, there's two parties gang up on the guy to tell the truth. | |
| I think there's a little bit of that what's going on. | |
| Tom, welcome to the program. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Very nice to be with you, gentlemen. | |
| I do want to say that what we've done here, most of the credit belongs to one of the best video people in the whole Liberty movement, a guy named Dan Smotz. | |
| The work he does promoting good causes. | |
| If I had seven lifetimes, I couldn't produce the results he does in terms of persuasive, beautiful, amazing video. | |
| And I guess I happened to be, I was talking to our friend Clint Russell on the Tom Woods show, and I said, we really need to get Dan to make a short video about how great Thomas Massey is, because Massey, unfortunately, is facing a fair amount of spending on really, frankly, not very high IQ ads, let's say, in his district. | |
| And I thought, we ought to hit back hard. | |
| We've got so much footage of him questioning witnesses and making speeches and taking stands and educating people. | |
| Let's put it together. | |
| The thing writes itself. | |
| So apparently Dan heard that I had said that, that I had said we got to get Dan on this project. | |
| And he wrote to me and said, let's go. | |
| So that was the origin of our little mini, mini, mini bio pic of Thomas Massey. | |
| That if you watch it and you start off saying, well, I've been told I'm not supposed to like this Massey fellow. | |
| By the end, you start wondering, whoever told me I wasn't supposed to like this Massey fellow? | |
| That's good. | |
| No, that's so true. | |
| And how long did this take to do when the two of you got together because you were very much involved? | |
| Has it been a week, two weeks, two months? | |
| It took a couple of weeks because Dan's a miracle worker and because we went to my Twitter following, which is, you know, 200-something thousand, and I said, we all love Thomas Massey. | |
| We've all seen amazing clips in which he's going after the head of the FBI or whoever it is, the head of this, that, or the other thing, and questioning them hard. | |
| We know he's great at refuting arguments and all that. | |
| And we all have our favorite little clips and moments of his. | |
| Well, here's where I would be very grateful if you could deposit some of those. | |
| Send us the best material you've got, and we're going to use it and assemble it into this project, which is called Thomas Massey's America First. | |
| And so people started sending us the raw material. | |
| So because we had the raw material, we know the basic story. | |
| Now Dan just has to take his magic and make something really special out of it. | |
| So you can watch it at, so Massey is spelled M-A-S-S-I-E. | |
| So it's Thomas Massey's America First. | |
| So it's Massey AF, almost like MasseyAirForce.com. | |
| You can watch it. | |
| You know, sometimes there's an opinion cast. | |
| If you're out there by yourself, and he's been by himself on many boats and positions, standing up for the truth as far as we're concerned. | |
| And he has been isolated in this sense. | |
| But people say, hey, you're only one person. | |
| You don't mean anything. | |
| You know, this whole thing is, the way I used to look at it, because I was in similar circumstances now and then, I would say, yeah, yeah, 200 and some people voted against it. | |
| I was the lone vote. | |
| I said, yeah, I'm equivalent to you guys because you have all these things, but I feel comfortable. | |
| And I'm sure Thomas is well versed. | |
| He has a real skill. | |
| And I think he deserves all the support we can. | |
| And that's why we're putting this program on today to encourage people. | |
| Because one thing that I heard from people who are close, that so often Thomas has been able to win his seat rather easily. | |
| But, you know, there's so much turmoil right now and so much vitro out there that there is so much money. | |
| And the opposition, I see the opposition as bipartisan, but there's another half of that that's just horrible. | |
| They have a lot of money. | |
| So this is very necessary. | |
| And I think this film that you helped make, Tom, is going to be very, very valuable. | |
| See, that is very happy. | |
| And we'll see what happens, see if we can generate some interest. | |
| But first, I'm going to start with really congratulating you, Tom, as well as your co-partner in filming this. | |
| Well, thank you. | |
| And I appreciate that. | |
| And we want to make clear that it's not like Thomas Massey is opposed to Trump in principle or anything like that. | |
| He sides with Trump when he does the right thing and he speaks up when he does the wrong thing. | |
| And he has stood with Trump in areas where a lot of Republicans have wanted to run the other way. | |
| Like a lot of cowards have wanted to run the other way. | |
| So on the January 6th matter, there are a lot of Republicans who were embarrassed by all that. | |
| But it was Thomas Massey who kept demanding answers about how many FBI assets were present on January 6th. | |
| I want an answer to that. | |
| So instead of running away, he stood with Trump in demanding answers or on Russia Gate. | |
| Well, that was an embarrassment to certain establishment Republicans who secretly thought maybe Trump is in cahoots with the Russians. | |
| But Massey never fell for that. | |
| So Massey stood by him at the crucial moments when a lot of his weaker Republican allies ran and hid. | |
| So you'd think he'd say, thanks, Thomas Massey. | |
| You were one of the only people who had the guts to stand with me when it was hard to do so. | |
| And I'll tell you something else. | |
| People say that Massey is motivated by something other than principle. | |
| Like he just wants to be a, quote, grandstander. | |
| He likes the attention. | |
| But I'll tell you something. | |
| He is in a very, very lonely position because he's got a lot of people who are against him because they don't want to be in the bad graces of Trump. | |
| So they have to at least pretend to be against Massey. | |
| And then it's not like he gets any credit on the left for anything he does. | |
| So he doesn't have that. | |
| What he has is this sliver of serious people who want to not just give pretty speeches, but who actually want to get things done, particularly when it comes to spending and the debt. | |
| If you can't get that done now, when you have the Republican Congress, you have a Republican Supreme Court, for heaven's sake, you have a Republican White House. | |
| If you can't get that done now, then that's never going to happen. | |
| And I think even his worst enemies would admit, if the whole house was filled with Thomas Massey's, we wouldn't have any of the problems we have now. | |
| They have to admit that. | |
| So all they really object to is, well, he's kind of a spoiler and he should just get with the program. | |
| He'll get with the program anytime it's a good program. | |
| Daniel, do you have a question for Tom? | |
| Tom, thanks for joining us today on the show. | |
| We talked right when the film came out because we wanted to have you come amplify the message because it's such an important message. | |
| And we wanted to congratulate you on your role. | |
| I mean, you did it the right way. | |
| You did it the easy way. | |
| You crowdsourced it, you know, and you also, obviously, you came up with the financing for the show. | |
| And by the way, Dan is great. | |
| He's actually doing our new intro for our show. | |
| So we're fortunate to have his great skills put to work for our little program here. | |
| But yes, Thomas Massey's America First, obviously, that is a nod to the president's stated and claimed approach to his presidency to U.S. Congress. | |
| But obviously, he's straying from that in many ways, hence Thomas Massey incurring the wrath of Dawn. | |
| So the question is, why? | |
| And I can't really understand it. | |
| Why is Donald Trump so angry with Thomas Massey? | |
| As you point out, he has worked, Thomas Massey has worked with President Trump on critical issues that are not popular, like January 6th, like Russia Gate, which he's still pursuing. | |
| I just saw a post on X from him the other day about Joseph Milsud, who was one of the key central figures in the Russia Gate scam. | |
| He's pursuing it, even though that's to the benefit of the person who wants to drum him out of office. | |
| What is wrong with Donald Trump? | |
| Well, it's made me wonder what would have happened if we had Ron Paul serving under Donald Trump? | |
| What would that have been like? | |
| Would he have unleashed the same kind of vitriol against Dr. Paul? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I mean, Dr. Paul had built up a significant following by then, was better known than Thomas Massey is. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But meanwhile, Roger Stone has been pushing for Dr. Paul to get the presidential medal of freedom. | |
| Well, it would be hard for him to award that to Dr. Paul while also trying to drive his greatest follower in Congress out of office. | |
| You know, so I mean, look, think about it under George W. Bush. | |
| Now, it's not like George W. Bush was super friendly to Dr. Paul, but I think his attitude was, all right, well, we have Dr. Paul and he votes his certain way and there's nothing we can do about it. | |
| So because there's nothing we can do about it, where there is no solution, there is no problem. | |
| And that was more or less it. | |
| So, I mean, Dr. Paul wouldn't get chosen for committee assignments or anything like that, but there was no huge campaign to drive him out. | |
| I think this is a matter of Trump's personality. | |
| And I'm somebody who I'm perfectly willing to give Trump credit for good things and courageous things, absolutely 100%. | |
| So I don't have Trump derangement syndrome. | |
| I'm not, I have nothing to do with any of that. | |
| But I do think his personality is such that he doesn't like, I mean, he expects the left to stand up against him. | |
| But somebody who is purportedly within his own ranks standing up against him, I think his personality just can't allow that. | |
| And I think he lashes out. | |
| I can't think of any other reason, any other way to account for it, because it doesn't make any strategic sense. | |
| Massey would be much more obscure if Trump would just keep his mouth shut about him. | |
| Well, you know, I look at this when you see and hear and listen to and respect somebody like Thomas that people don't like to hear the truth. | |
| The voice of truth is there and it's available. | |
| And the other, there's so many others that have worked closely with the conservative libertarian groups. | |
| But as soon as when it gets hectic and they back away, they just have no courage at all. | |
| And I think one thing is, is they see him as the voice of truth, but they see themselves as a voice of truth. | |
| So I think it comes down to the definition of truth. | |
| There's all kinds of relativity associated with individuals who claim I'm telling you the truth. | |
| And they used to get after me, but they wanted to even penalize me early on when I first went to Congress because I didn't vote for a spending bill and it was Ronald Reagan and this sort of thing. | |
| So I had to go before, you know, our state committee. | |
| And so I said, what I'll do is let's look at all the votes. | |
| And, you know, the Constitution is one thing, but also the platform is supposed to have meaning, which it has zero meaning. | |
| I says, let's go through this. | |
| I'll bet anybody that I voted more with the platform, all the stuff you say you were going to do than anybody else in the room. | |
| And that sort of shut them up for five minutes. | |
| Well, I hear you. | |
| I mean, I've been a Ron Paul supporter as long as I can remember. | |
| And, you know, we think back to some of the candidates who were in those Republican presidential debates with you, Dr. Paul. | |
| You know, a handful of them were members of Congress, like Duncan Hunter, for example. | |
| But today, you know, Duncan Hunter would have been one of the 434 voting with the regime. | |
| And you were Ron Paul, very often voting on your own. | |
| And which name do people remember now? | |
| I bet almost nobody knows who Duncan Hunter is anymore. | |
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Why Massey Won't Be Forgotten
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| And I rather suspect the same thing will be true of Thomas Massey. | |
| That when you look back at people in Congress today, we've never heard of most of the names. | |
| And within a couple of years, they're completely forgotten. | |
| I don't think Massey will be forgotten. | |
| And there's a reason for that. | |
| Not that he's a grandstander, but that when push came to shove and when there was a price to be paid, he was willing to pay it because he thought there is no point in being here if I'm not going to say what needs to be said. | |
| I have a perfectly happy life on my farm in Kentucky. | |
| I don't need this. | |
| So if I don't do what I was sent here to do, there's no point. | |
| Yes. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Go ahead, sir. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I was just going to say we got a taste of Thomas Massey's character very, very early on when we started the Ron Paul Institute. | |
| And I've told the story on the show before, but we were doing the opening reception for the Institute. | |
| We had the panel. | |
| We had Jimmy Duncan. | |
| We had Walter Jones. | |
| We had Dennis Kucinich. | |
| And here comes this newly elected member of Congress who we had met but didn't know that well, who came in and basically crashed the party, but in a good way, not in a grandstanding way. | |
| He wanted to sit down because he wanted to be a part of it. | |
| And there was definitely, as you say, Tom, there was nothing in it for him by coming in and associating himself with the outsiders. | |
| You know, that was pure raw courage. | |
| And that really, I think, established what has come to characterize Thomas Massey throughout his time here. | |
| But if you'll indulge me, I will say to our viewers, I will put a link in the description of today's show. | |
| I didn't do it beforehand, but I will put a link in the description of today's show where you can watch the great, great Massey film, thanks to Tom Woods and Dan Smotz. | |
| You can watch that after we're finished. | |
| But I do have to ask if you might indulge me, Tom. | |
| We're not very often fortunate to have you on the show. | |
| But if you'll indulge me in a question about another topic, if that's okay. | |
| Oh, of course. | |
| I think I know what topic it'll be. | |
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Belief And Policy Shifts
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| You may not, actually. | |
| I had a few, but I want to ask you about what's up with Pam Bondi. | |
| You know, she said yesterday, she had a couple of real zingers. | |
| She said terrible. | |
| She said there's free speech and then there's hate speech. | |
| And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society. | |
| We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech. | |
| What is going on with Pam Bondi? | |
| Oh, well, Daniel, it's even worse. | |
| She apparently also was evidently there was somebody at a copy store who refused to make copies of a flyer about a vigil for Charlie Kirk. | |
| And the store already fired that person. | |
| So the thing is resolved. | |
| But now she's saying, well, you know, we're going to look into this and you have to print flyers. | |
| And so it's, so it's, so what was the point of fighting the whole bake the cake thing? | |
| I was going to bake the cake. | |
| Right. | |
| Jack Phillips in Colorado said, I'm not baking this cake because I don't believe in the message that you want me to put on it. | |
| And we won that, although we had to see the thing is we had to win that circuitously because the civil rights establishment will not allow us to win it on the grounds that this is my private property and I'll serve anybody I want. | |
| That's not been allowed. | |
| You haven't been allowed to say or think that for a long time. | |
| So the Supreme Court had to come up with this extremely Byzantine, serpentine kind of logic to find him not guilty. | |
| But the point is, a lot of us on the right have been saying for some time that really, the principle, there's no other way you can run things other than the owner decides who he's going to do business with because that's a matter of freedom of association. | |
| You can't be forced to do business with somebody you don't want to do business with. | |
| And now Pam Bondi is asserting the opposite and is trying to take these laws that have done so much damage to society and say, well, we're going to use them now and we're going to use them to make sure people are forced to print flyers. | |
| Pam, you are missing the point. | |
| We don't want you talking about hate speech, which is not a category that Charlie Kirk believed in. | |
| It's a category of thought developed by our enemies. | |
| And I don't want to use that for my purposes. | |
| I want to destroy the concept of hate speech. | |
| What we want is if there happen to be networks of people who conspire to disrupt events or cause property damage or violence, that they need to be broken up or punished. | |
| That's what we want. | |
| We don't want any of this other nonsense. | |
| You know, I want to make a point of having experienced the time I had in Congress and what Thomas is going through. | |
| The question I get frequently is that people will ask, is it different? | |
| Is it much worse now or was it this way all along? | |
| And I say it's different. | |
| And one example of this was We were going through one of these battles on the budget, and Gingrich, who was the speaker, got all the Republicans in a room and he was laying down the law. | |
| He says, Every one of you, you know, have gotten something from the government. | |
| You have something on, and you will vote for this bill. | |
| Except Ron Paul has not held to that because he didn't bother. | |
| And that wouldn't happen today. | |
| Can you imagine? | |
| What are they doing? | |
| Thomas Messley. | |
| Did they say, Well, we understand this? | |
| You're based on principle. | |
| It's the Constitution and it's wonderful. | |
| No, it's his single out to be the worst guy in that Republican. | |
| We have to get rid of. | |
| That is that's the power of truth and also know exactly what we're up against. | |
| But I found that little incident that I had to go through very entertaining and subtly chuckled. | |
| Daniel, do you have any others that you want to run by me? | |
| Because I'm ready for a lightning round if you are. | |
| Well, I was going to throw out Venezuela, but I mean, Trump struck again. | |
| You know, he has abrogated to himself the authority to be the policeman, the judge, the jury, and the executioner all in one. | |
| Apparently, he blew up another boat yesterday. | |
| I was stuck in a room waiting for a jury duty. | |
| Thank God I didn't get it. | |
| I didn't get picked. | |
| But nevertheless, I get out of the room and I see that he's blown up another boat. | |
| And of course, unfortunately, conservatives are cheering this same thing that they would have really booed President Obama for. | |
| Congress is supine. | |
| They're doing absolutely nothing about it. | |
| I'm like you, I wanted Trump to win. | |
| I'm not a delusion, Trump derangement guy in the slightest. | |
| But when I see a president who takes the authority to kill people that he thinks might be doing something bad, you know, the guys on the right should think twice because what they are allowing now will come back to bite them. | |
| What are your thoughts on this one? | |
| Well, also, foreign policy is where they lie the most, and they lie the most in foreign policy because the events in question are taking place so physically far away, it's much easier to lie about it. | |
| And so we get fake stories about this, that, or the other thing. | |
| You know, years later, we find out it was a hoax. | |
| And, you know, so in this case, I'm skeptical. | |
| I mean, maybe these are bad guys, maybe they're not. | |
| But I don't feel like the U.S. regime has a very good track record when it comes to telling me why they're bombing people or what the results were or who the intended target was. | |
| It always turns out to be the opposite or something else from what they've told us to begin with. | |
| So that's why I want to minimize these things. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And even if they are everything that they're said to be, you can't just go killing people. | |
| You know, I mean, you can't just do it because you think they're bad. | |
| And even if they are bad, you still can't do it. | |
| Well, not to mention, I mean, look, I realize it's quaint to say a word on behalf of the Constitution. | |
| That's so yesterday's news. | |
| But a lot of times people will say, well, in the early Republic, we have examples of this, that, and the other thing being done on the president's say-so. | |
| But what they don't know because they don't bother to look and they don't want to know is that there was congressional authorization for all these things again and again and again, whether it was the Barbary Pirates or the quasi-war with France or whatever it was, there was always congressional authorization. | |
| The first time the president sent troops anywhere without express congressional authorization was not the Korean War, but it was around the time of the Boxer Rebellion. | |
| About 5,000 Americans were sent over to China. | |
| But that's about it. | |
| Other than that, until you get to the mid-20th century, you just don't see this kind of thing being done. | |
| And by interesting coincidence, you had a much freer society at that time. | |
| Tom, you bring up the subject of, you know, the support in the Congress for the foreign policies. | |
| And I think there definitely has been a shift in one way, because when I was there, it was easier to talk with and maybe work with a coalition of a progressive Democrat. | |
| But now, you know, they're every bit as hawkish as the Republicans are. | |
| And that attitude has shifted. | |
| I think there's an improvement. | |
| So Daniel and I sort of kid to ourselves, we have to find something positive out of this. | |
| So I think all this stuff is so bad, and there is a shift. | |
| And we can look at it and say, you know, there's a lot more people now talking about non-intervention. | |
| It's just a shame that our leader right now is not helping us out. | |
| And yet a lot of people who supported Trump and were hopeful about Trump, he just hasn't come through. | |
| But I think the debate is a little bit healthier, but I have to guard against any optimism about it because it's a bipartisan issue. | |
| This is why I think there's really not two parties on the big issues, whether it's foreign policy spending, Federal Reserve, printing money, welfare state. | |
| There is no difference. | |
| That's why Thomas Massey is so necessary and so important what he's doing. | |
| He's waking up people, and I still see him waking up millions of people. | |
| And these clowns up there thinking, oh, well, he's not a chairman of a committee. | |
| What good is he doing? | |
| And he might lose his election. | |
| But honoring the truth doesn't get much support in Congress. | |
| But I think there's enough people in this country who are still looking for the Thomas Masseys of the world. | |
| Well, think about U.S. Senator Rick Santorum. | |
| I don't mean to pick on him specifically. | |
| I could pick many others, but just because he was one of your GOP primary opponents. | |
| Now, I'm sure Rick Santorum probably got a few bills passed. | |
| I don't know what any of them were. | |
| They probably had no impact on me whatsoever, and nobody remembers them. | |
| So whereas you, and I know, Dr. Paul, I know it embarrasses you to be praised, but I'm afraid you're just going to have to sit and endure it. | |
| What you did, even though it didn't involve getting bills passed, shifted the way people think. | |
| It gave people who are not on the left permission to be anti-war. | |
| And it's paved the way for what we have now. | |
| Up to then, if you were against the U.S. military doing this or that, it was assumed that you were some kind of terrible commie, pinko, who shouldn't be listened to. | |
| But now suddenly it's a very respectable position. | |
| And now people are digging up, looking into the history of the conservative movement and saying, well, actually, I can find a lot of people in the history of the conservative movement who took a position kind of like Ron Paul. | |
| That is far more important than whatever fleeting bit of nonsense legislation somebody might get passed that'll just be repealed tomorrow or ignored or whatever. | |
| The long-term change comes from changing minds. | |
| And the changing minds is done by the people who vote alone. | |
| You know, if the vote is 400 to 35, nobody thinks about it. | |
| But if it's 434 to 1, everybody wants to know who's that one and why is that person saying no? | |
| And that is the great intellectual and moral example that Thomas Massey and you also have given us. | |
| Yes, he's more important at this very moment about most of these issues than all the rest put together. | |
| And I sort of get a chuckle out of that. | |
| Well, Tom, I can underscore what you said back in 1998. | |
| When I discovered Ron Paul, I discovered that there was a way to be anti-war and not be a leftist. | |
| So that's absolutely true with me as well. | |
| And I'm grateful, I'm eternally grateful for that. | |
| I'm going to sign out now, but I do want to thank Doubting Thomas and Georgist for both kicking in some money to help us keep the show going today. | |
| We appreciate your support. | |
| I want to thank my great friend Tom Woods, one of the greatest libertarian communicators in history, a brilliant historian. | |
| Personally, I want to thank him because he helped educate my kids through the Ron Paul curriculum and gave them a great view of U.S. history. | |
| And I'm terribly grateful for that as well. | |
| And I want to thank him for joining the show. | |
| And I do want to thank all our viewers. | |
| And I'll kick it back over to you, Dr. Paul. | |
| Very good. | |
| And I want to close with a state of encouragement because ultimately I have to remain optimistic in some areas, but I have to be realistic to realize how terrible it is. | |
| And I see things coming apart on foreign policy, monetary policy, economic policy, morality, and the whole works. | |
| And yet, I see this as an opportunity for us to present something. | |
| So our goal and our responsibility is if we do believe this, why don't we spread this message? | |
| And quite a few people have followed up on that. | |
| They have started organizations that are big and better and they get a lot of coverage. | |
| And I think that's the way it works. | |
| And of course, the quote we use frequently is: you know, an idea can't be stopped even by guns. | |
| So the power of ideas fascinates me to no end. | |
| So, and a lot of people do have their programs going. | |
| So, Tom, what I would like to suggest, and I'll give you a couple of minutes to close it out, is that I would encourage everybody listening or coming in contact or hears about Thomas Massey, they say, Oh, he's a good guy. | |
| I sure hope he does well. | |
| I hope he doesn't lose his election. | |
| No, I think the responsibility, it's a personal, moral responsibility. | |
| If you believe what we as a group generally believe, that we have an obligation to spread a message for our own self-preservation, our family, and just for the sake of satisfying people who think you should defend the truth and you shouldn't be come anywhere close to the nihilists and say, Don't sweat it. | |
| You can't. | |
| There are a lot of nihilists in Washington. | |
| They say one thing, but they really don't believe in the truth factor. | |
| They're not moving in that direction. | |
| So, I think that this is a time I will personally encourage all our viewers today to do something. | |
| And a lot of times, the students would come up to me after a speech on a campus, okay, Ron, we agree with you. | |
| Tell me what I have to do. | |
| Should I run for Congress? | |
| And I say, Well, don't run for Congress. | |
| I mean, sometimes it works out okay, but that's that's not it. | |
| What you have to do is be prepared, know what the information is. | |
| But everybody has a talent. | |
| I'd love to be able to sing about these issues, and that's that would that's not my that's not my thing that I can do, but I can sing in my way about how wonderful we have had it in the meantime in our country because we have probably the maximum amount of liberty and freedom for a time, period. | |
| And we prove it's okay. | |
| And I'm convinced that the freer a country, the more peaceful it'll be and more prosperous it'll be. | |
| So, that's what we'll continue to do. | |
| And uh, Tom, I'd like you to go ahead and close out and tell us specifically what the viewers can do to help with the project and this film that you helped make. | |
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| Well, I'm happy to say that friends of Thomas Massey came through and supported this thing. | |
| So no big super PACs were involved or, you know, no funny money or anything. | |
| It was just ordinary people made this thing possible. | |
| And I really would urge people, just spread it around, spread it around, because people have been told to dislike this man. | |
| And when they see this, they're going to wonder, why have I been told that? | |
| I love him. | |
| It turns out he's great. | |
| So you can find it again at Massey. | |
| Remember, Massey spelled M-A-S-S-I-E, Massey AF.com. | |
| So Massey's America First, MasseyAF.com. | |
| Go check it out. | |
| It doesn't cost anything. | |
| But if you could spread it around for us, that'd be great. | |
| Tom, I want to close off by giving you a big thank you for appearing and all the good work you've been doing for so many years. | |
| I also want to thank our viewers for tuning in today. | |