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July 23, 2025 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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Starve Away' - US Congressman Mocks Gaza Suffering

Just when you thought Congress could sink no lower, in comes Randy Fine (R-FL), who has multiple times mocked the suffering in Gaza and who yesterday said Palestinian children should "starve away" until the Israeli hostages are released. Polls continue to show that Americans are repulsed by what is happening to Palestinians in Gaza, yet somehow they continue to elect representatives like Randy Fine. What gives?

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Starving People's Principle 00:07:27
Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today, we have Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you this morning?
I'm doing very well, thank you.
And we have a few things we want to go over.
One is going to resolve, be a round involving a congressman who has advice for the Congress and the people.
And for some reason, he thinks that Congress should endorse the principle, maybe just starving people is the way to get our way.
And that's a little bit opposite of having fundamentally philosophic changes and having fair debate and living in a republic.
But anyway, before I go into that, I want to mention one business investment or financial headline that caught my attention.
It was on zero heads.
They're frequently on top of most of these things.
U.S. existing home sales dip back near 15-year low in June as prices hit record highs.
But you know, the media, and Trump's good at this.
He knows how to handle the media, and the media are right now sort of lapdogs.
His spin is the final spin, and he gets the attention.
But there's no inflation, and the government is getting more and more income from tariffs, and everything is hockey-dory.
And I don't happen to agree with a lot of that.
But the home seal is dipping back to 15 years low.
The prices are going up.
And people say, well, this doesn't make any sense.
If there's a low sales on houses, the prices should go down unless there's stagflation, unless the prices, which is guided by monetary policy and government action, is at fault.
And that is it.
And I think it's a big issue because of the significance of this and the misunderstanding that happens so often.
And I just think that maybe Chris and I will talk more about that tomorrow.
Yeah, sounds good.
Sounds good.
Okay.
Today we wanted to follow up.
And quite frankly, I didn't investigate a new member of Congress in April this year.
But he's in the news.
He's been in the news.
I should have known his politics.
Trump endorsed him and everything seems to be okay.
But there is a Congressman now that is astounding that his position is that, and they're his words.
Well, if we have a problem with the Palestinians and they won't do what we tell them and they won't follow the demands of the United States and Israel, just let them starve.
Well, I can't think of anything so more atrocious than that.
That is what has happened throughout all history.
People use that.
And our government's been involved before, and governments are doing this, but never so bluntly.
I mean, the statement is this is a principle.
And to me, that's like challenging, you know, all the basic religious principles of all the religious factors.
And that is that we're not disposed to treat people like that.
It has nothing to do with justice.
It has to deal with how did one group enhance their power over the other.
And the enemy is the people who disagree with them.
And yes, there's violence.
But to say, well, they're not a people and we should starve them.
And maybe that'll solve our problem.
But from my point of view, I think it's going to make things a lot worse, this type of stuff.
And it's like I said, it's existed before.
It exists in other parts of the world.
We've been involved before, but I don't know whether it's been so blunt as to say, let them starve.
Who cares?
Well, maybe a few people do.
Hopefully they let their message be heard.
You know, there are times you try not to generalize about individuals, but there are times, I believe, where you can extrapolate the character of an organization through the actions of a few individuals.
And so our purpose here today is not necessarily to single out a person for saying something atrocious.
That person has to be a member of the United States House of Representatives.
And that's a body that even though both of us criticize, we still hold in high regard because you spent more time there than I did working for you, but we both spent a lot of our lives working there.
And so it is a shame and it's sort of heart-wrenching to see how it's descended even further into the mire since we've left.
But the person in question name is Randy Fine, and he's been controversial before.
He's very, very aggressive and bold.
Now, he took, as you pointed out, Mike Waltz's seat when Waltz went to be National Security Advisor for a couple of weeks.
Well, he was on X, as he often does, commenting on Middle East politics.
And there was a news report coming out that 15 people have died of hunger, including four children in Gaza.
And this is what he posted on X. If you can put that first clip up.
This is his reaction to children dying of hunger.
He said, release the hostages.
Until then, starve away.
And then he said, this is all a lie anyway.
It amazes me that the media continues to regurgitate Muslim terror propaganda.
So the idea that people are starving in Gaza, he says, is a lie.
But even if they're not starving, they should starve anyway because their rulers, the people who are in charge politically or have been in the past, are doing things that he doesn't like.
Now, imagine if that standard were applied to the United States when the U.S. makes war against, U.S. government makes war against a foreign country and the rest of us who are opposed to that war, well, we should suffer the same fate.
It certainly doesn't, it wouldn't ring true for them.
But I would say his point that it's all a lie, if you go to the next clip, now this is the ABC piece that he was referring to, but go to the next one.
And I hesitate to show these because these aren't extremely graphic, but they still are disturbing.
Here's a mother holding her starving child.
You'll notice that that baby is not wearing diapers because the Israeli government won't allow diapers in.
So they're fortunately having to wear plastic bags.
And go to the next one.
This is Dave DeCamp had posted on X. Dave is over at antiwar.com, and he posted another baby who died.
This is one of the people who died of starvation today.
Six-week-old Youssef Al-Safadi.
This is who Randy Fine is telling to starve away.
So the idea that it's not happening, I mean, it almost reminds me of how repulsive it is when you hear someone denying the Holocaust, you know, denying something that we know is happening that's happening before our eyes.
You know, summarizing what you said about the hostages, release the hostage, the way I would phrase that, do what we say, or these are the results.
You're going to starve the little ones.
And it's hard for me to accept that as a basic principle.
Means of Moral Bankruptcy 00:12:11
So the people in this country, they surely ought to be at least thoughtful enough to look at both sides of this, to look at pictures like that and what's going on.
And the truth is, what happens in these countries, and a lot of bad things happen, and it happens with U.S. support.
And that means morally we are responsible.
And you say, oh, no, we didn't do it.
I didn't vote for that guy and all that.
But it's our country.
It's our system.
It's our military.
It's our foreign policy.
It's on and on.
And then it's really the thing that we have talked about, you and I and the program has talked about, is the military industrial complex, where if they don't do our bidding in the various countries and they don't have the right leader, guess what?
They just participate in getting rid of these leaders.
Assassination.
Oh, yes, it's happened here.
And coups have happened, but the coups are getting awfully close to home.
And I've been warning about a coup that I believe really showed itself since the 1960s.
And that means that the Republic is gone.
It's not working.
And if it works, guess what?
Truth is treason.
Truth becomes the treasonous thing.
So truth is treasonous and an empire lies.
And that is this.
When you look at the details of what's going on here, it isn't like that Congress has a resolution tomorrow and a strong resolution of any participation in the purposely trying to starve a whole nation to death, a whole people, should be condemned.
But that isn't to be because we know that the Congressman you talked about had some help from high places to get in.
But they also, Daniel, it also says that in this short period of time, and I understand that seat that Fine has, very, very Republican.
But even that is the case, he's losing probably more votes than some other Republican districts.
And I remember back in the day when some members would have said something that we thought may have been relatively minor, but their words were taken down and they were censured by their colleagues because there was at least an attempt at that time to keep the level of respectability high or relatively high in Congress.
So you're absolutely right.
In a proper Congress, he would be censored by his colleagues and said that this is not okay.
Thankfully, we have some social media like X that's relatively free.
And if you look underneath his posting where he urged them to starve away, there were plenty of pro-Jewish groups and voices that were extremely critical as well.
And that's important to point out.
I just picked out one.
There were plenty of them.
But this next one is Voice of Rabbis.
And it says, Congressman, with all due respect, such statements deeply concern the Jewish community.
Judaism teaches us to value every human life.
Starvation and suffering cannot be the answer.
We urge moral clarity, call for the hostages' release, but not at the cost of innocent lives.
And I think that's something that we would certainly endorse that sentiment.
And Voice of Rabbis was not alone on that threat, urging that to happen.
Those are great statements, and we should dwell on that.
They need the exposure and not the justification for doing this.
But, you know, when I talk about bankruptcy in this country, the financial bankruptcy is very obvious and getting much worse.
And it's on autopilot.
And there's no signs that without very radical changes, it won't be stopped.
Unfortunately, it could be violent.
But there's a financial bankruptcy.
I think what we're talking about here is a moral bankruptcy.
You know, like you said, there was a time when Congress would be astounded to have another member.
And in order to, you know, at least have an image that were a little more dignified of that, they would have these votes and censor people who were outrageous.
Well, evidently, this is not outrageous to anybody.
And look, I guess there's more articles about the outrage they're expressing to the one person that has stood up for moral clarity, and that's Thomas.
And Massey's very clear, and he's mentioned where it is here.
Just like, this is great because I think that is understood, the rabbis.
But you know what?
My realistic thing is when it comes to this, you know, anti-Semitism and all.
And I've been always so casual that somebody might say to me, Well, you have a couple of Jewish people working for you.
I said, Who are they?
You know, but they, and that's one thing that I think an outline of what non-aggression is the answer, and it should cross all paths.
I think natural law is very libertarian-ish, and that's why I think all religions don't all practice it equally, but the religions are basically how many religions say, Well, one of the tools that we should use for religious persons, if they're not going to buy when they're supposed to, we should starve them all to death.
And yet they're getting away with this, and there's no answer because, you know, right now, what is the answer?
We have power and control over the money in the universities.
So if somebody gets up and gives a speech or joins a rally and said, pay more attention to the Palestinians, look at what you're doing.
Well, that's anti-Semitic.
And now we did the, now we are saying we better speak out for morality.
That is wrong.
So we're going to take the money from the people that are allowing this to happen on those campuses.
And the campuses are all nervous now that they're losing money.
But even the money, that is not the way we should have the First Amendment enforce.
Bribe them and then say, We're going to take away the bribe unless you behave.
We should make sure that people understand that the First Amendment doesn't require that because when it comes to our government bribing and interfering and what colleges can do is they shouldn't be allowed to.
All these billions of dollars.
That's one good thing that's happening, I think, under the Trump administration, is some of this stuff is being exposed.
How many colleges get a lot of money and they're all financed by very wealthy people along with the government?
So I think it's basically down to get people to understand the moral principle of non-aggression and look at that carefully and try to get all that we do involves non-aggression rather than assuming that we'll starve you into what we want you to do.
Yeah, and you know, if Congressman Fine's peers aren't up to the task of standing up for decency, at least we do have in this age of independent journalism, we have journalists who are not afraid to do that anymore.
You certainly won't see it really in the mainstream media, but I just found a clip.
I watched it a while ago.
This is not something that's brand new.
It's a couple weeks old.
But our good friend Max Blumenthal confronted Congressman Randy Fine with a couple of tough questions, which is what journalists are supposed to do.
That's that first clip.
We can grab our earpieces and listen to, you might want to grab your earpiece, Dr. Paul, and listen to Max Blumenthal of the Gray Zone confront Randy Fine.
Representative Fine, Max Blumenthal from the Gray Zone.
Max Blumenthal from the Grey Zone, you've been a big supporter of killing civilians in Gaza.
I was wondering how long do you think you would last under the starvation conditions that Israel's imposed in Gaza?
Like, have you ever put yourself in the shoes of the people of Gaza who are starving?
I don't believe in those who believe that they should keep hostages.
If Gaza wants the war to end, they should let the hostages go.
You take hostages, you get what's coming.
you're encouraging anti-semitism by these kinds of comments supporting the killing of children supporting nuking gaza sir he has another interview right now what why i mean why can't he do an adversarial interview he can do an adversarial i thought you were the hebrew hammer you seem more like the hebrew scammer I thought you were the Hebrew hammer.
You seem more like the Hebrew scammer.
That was great.
And I will also just remind our viewers that Max will be with us at our conference on August 16th.
Max and his wife, Anya Parrampil, will be with us.
So you get to see Max in person.
Incredibly brave journalist and all-around super, super smart, super great guy.
But he did confront him, and Randy Fine didn't take it well.
You'll notice they put a couple of other of his posts up, Randy Fine's posts, and one of them was also particularly offensive.
It said, kill them all, is one of the things he said.
So it's unseemly to have a member, and he's certainly by no means alone, a member in the House that really is calling for the murder of civilians, regardless of what country they inhabit.
You know, the conflict within the Congress is getting a little bit more aggressive, and that is the one between somebody like Fine and also Rashida.
Rashida Talib, you know, that's getting pretty nasty.
And I don't know much about her, but I could predict she probably not an angel.
Yeah.
You know, and that's the whole thing.
It brings the worst out in people rather than the best.
And I just think that the principle of natural law still exists.
It's been there since the beginning of time.
But it has its ups and downs.
And the good stuff written into law, you would say, maybe take the Ten Commandments or our Constitution.
There's a recognition of a natural law that said that this stuff shouldn't happen.
I mean, the callousness of this, that's what bugs me the most.
I mean, and then when I have to think about what our own country has done, that is so disturbing.
And yet, you know, the result, you know, we're talking about the members of Congress responsibility.
But I spent a few years there.
I think somebody told me once it could have been 23 years.
But I never feel like I came out hating the other congressmen because my approach was different.
I didn't expect that if I shouted at them or something and got into these fights, it would change anything.
But that to me, so individuals themselves didn't do that to me either, except when you run into what we're talking about today.
That's why I think this removal of the moral principles has become worse.
And I think that's bad news for the country unless that's dealt with.
And in many ways, I think it is, but it's very quiet.
You know, the remnant is always silent.
You don't know where they are.
And there's a remnant in economics, you know, that people, and that grows all the time.
Just think of the difference of Austrian economic and honest money and understanding has occurred since World War II.
That's been growing by loops and downs with people like Leonard Reed and Lou Rockwell and these other people.
This has been wonderful.
And there's a lot of people that have, we work, but then these guys, you know, get the attention.
And maybe that's good.
Maybe that, like I always say, what's the good part?
Food and Peace Prospered 00:08:21
It's going to wake some people up better because we can't just have another group get together and express their aggressiveness.
Yeah, and you mentioned that in his district, it's very heavily Republican.
So, my guess would be that plenty of self-professed pro-life Christians must have voted for him.
As a pro-life Christian myself, I find it very offensive to vote for someone who would say, kill them all.
That certainly, I don't recall that part in the Bible in the New Testament where Jesus said, kill them all.
But anyway, the other thing about it, and we touched on it a little bit, is this idea that it's all fake, it's not happening.
And as I said earlier, it's as disgusting as someone who denies a Holocaust, you know, and we're seeing this in real time.
And I had a couple of clips just to underscore this idea that him denying what's happening is particularly distasteful.
Now, the next clip is from The Cradle, which is an online magazine that covers the Middle East.
And The Cradle is quoting a U.S. doctor who's working in Gaza.
U.S. Dr. Noor Sharif from the Al-Shifra Hospital in Gaza shares what she said to Al Jazeera: The situation regarding hunger levels is horrific in the strip.
The situation in the strip is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life.
There is no space in the emergency department to receive patients.
We are treating them on the ground.
Doctors are working long hours beyond what they are supposed to.
Sometimes doctors do not get food, but they continue doing their work.
We are seeing people who haven't eaten for several days collapsing from hunger.
We will see the long-term consequences of malnutrition in the people of Gaza.
Now, the next clip I have, and I'll preface it with a comment from Glenn Greenwald, if we can go ahead once.
And Greg, Glenn, I'm going to play the video clip, but I want to just mention what Glenn said, another good friend of ours.
Israel's loyalists in the U.S. are trained to dismiss every source that disparages Israel.
Every media outlet, UN agency, humanitarian aid group are all lying anti-Semites.
Well, here's a European doctor from the noble Med Sin Song Frontier.
If that's what you need, on what she's seen.
Now, Doctors Without Borders is internationally recognized as having a lot of credibility.
Now, let's go to that.
I think it's the third video clip.
I got him messed up.
And let's listen to what this doctor who has been working in Gaza says about what it's like there.
And my colleagues were present as well just a few days ago when dozens of wounded and dead streamed into the emergency room after an incident at Zikim in the north of the Gaza Strip where trucks of aid had arrived with a world food program and Israeli army shot at the desperate people looking for aid for their families.
79 people were killed that day.
These are incidents that we see every single day.
I have no words for this to describe the shame for humanity that we are witnessing here every single day.
I have been now four weeks in Gaza.
It was desperate when I arrived.
And I cannot fathom that in those four weeks it has gotten worse every single day.
You had a malfunction in your ears.
But what she said is she had observed an aid truck rolled in and the desperate people in Gaza, the Palestinians and Gazma, ran to the aid truck because they hadn't eaten.
And the Israeli defense forces opened fire on the people who were desperately seeking food.
They hadn't eaten.
And they killed 79 people right then and there who were simply desperate to get some flour.
And this is not a political activist.
This is simply a doctor that's working in Gaza.
So I don't know, maybe Randy Fine should look at a couple of these videos as well.
Yeah, that's for sure.
And you know, this was, she was representing the United Nations.
Doctors Without Borders.
And you think, well, this is a government agency.
Right.
It's one part that is a very positive thing.
And if you're going to have it, it should be designed for that.
And that to me is a real tragedy because it's used against guest people.
Because we have, just think of how many billions and billions of dollars we take from poor people in this country and say we're going to help people who are starving.
And we're sending it all around the country.
But maybe a little bit of food gets through to them.
But it's usually never helps the poor and the starving.
It helps the people who are in power.
So even though I would say you can't condemn the efforts that even an agency has, because if that is the only thing they've been doing, but it is best.
And everybody admires and talks about the generosity of the American people.
And I'll bet you there's plenty of people who would be willing to send some money.
Look at what they do when we have these horrible weather problems here.
The American people are very generous, but the whole thing is, for some reason, that gets distorted.
And I think that that is a moral problem because there are the people who are in charge of the distribution of the money they steal from the people.
They get to decide which military bill and spending is going to be approved.
And unfortunately, it's going to make the people in this country hungrier.
And already people say, what do you mean?
It's going to happen.
And they could go and start showing a few places in this country that people have trouble getting any food.
Absolutely.
Well, I'm going to close out, Dr. Paul.
If we can just skip ahead to that very last clip, and that is a reminder, Blueprint for Peace is the theme that we will be exploring on August 16th with a fantastic lineup of speakers, people who generously are offering their time to help us understand what's happening in the world.
Now, I did mention Max Blumenthal and his wife Anya Parrampil will be there.
Also, of course, Dr. Paul will be there.
Our good friend Colonel Douglas McGregor will be there.
The brilliant Nassim Nicholas Taleb will be there.
And plenty more people will be there.
Dr. Paul, there is a link in the description to get those tickets.
There's still time to get them, still time to travel, but you need to go ahead and get them pretty soon so that we can see you on August 16th in Dulles, Virginia, right near the Dulles Airport, a quick shuttle ride from the Dulles airport.
Over to you, Dr. Paul.
Very good.
And we will continue our efforts to promote peace and prosperity because it's so easy to do.
It's not complex.
You don't need an army.
You don't need a bunch of bureaucrats.
You don't need entangling alliances.
All you need is a moral revival, which the majority of the people can have the influence on the whole system.
And that is that of non-aggression.
Yes, you can do what you like, but just never use aggression and force to claim that you have the answer to starvation.
Yes, our government says we're going to help the starving people of Gaza and these different places.
And yet we've been involved in so many coups.
I mean, the coup in Ukraine could not have happened without us.
And they say, that's treasonous.
You better not say that.
And yes, people don't like to hear the truth, but we've been talking about that since 2014, about how we participated in creating Gaza.
But how Ukraine?
But how many other places has that happened?
So it's bad policy with people who are misled and then accepted by people who are callous, who are careless in accepting the propaganda that we hear.
And that is a problem.
So I think the answer is a better understanding about what peace and prosperity is all about.
It's a moral principle and it's open to everybody, but people have to understand it to make sure that they can distinguish between aggression being used to do good things and bringing about voluntarism to bring about good things.
I want to thank everybody for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
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