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March 12, 2025 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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Flip-Flop! Trump Restores Weapons And Intelligence To Ukraine!

After a meeting between the US Secretary of State Rubio and National Security Advisor Waltz, a Ukraine currently getting trounced on the battlefield has agreed to a "ceasefire" with the party doing the trouncing, Russia. In response, President Trump has once again started up the pipeline of weapons and targeting information to Ukraine. Bold move...or foolish move?

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Ukraine's Complex Future 00:15:14
Waiting on Rommel.
Hello everybody and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today, we have Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you this morning.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you this morning?
Doing well.
Good.
And in spite of all our problems, we're probably not quite as messed up as Ukraine.
Yeah, that's true.
But we adopted Ukraine as a project, and we worked on that through NATO, and they cooperated.
They liked the mess it was making.
And they're pretending they're going to pick up the pieces if we leave, which I rather doubt.
But anyway, there's a mess there.
And of course, the media says that 99, not 99, a large percentage of American people actually believe that it was 100% Russia's fault.
And therefore, we shouldn't talk to Russia.
Except they don't believe the president has really blamed Russia as much as others have.
But anyway, there was some activity this week.
Trump is the peacemaker, and I'm not going to challenge his desires, his techniques sometimes.
I wonder what's going on, because he was playing tough with Ukraine.
He says, no more weapons, no more intelligence, and you guys better sit down and do it.
And we sort of cheered him on.
No more, that's good.
That's a step in the right direction.
But what really happened?
Not too much because all of a sudden there were some negotiations behind the scenes.
And so I think Trump changed his tune.
He says, oh, okay, we better help him out anyway.
We're going to let them have some weapons and some intelligence gathering.
So it's, I think it's so typical of a policy which is designed from a principle of interventionism, that we have to have, we have to be intervening.
We have to be meddlers.
We have to, you know, be telling people what to do.
We have an empire to defend and we have a currency to defend.
And you end up with, as a country, as our country is now, militarily and financially, it's getting messier and we're deeper in debt than ever.
And I think we'll see a lot more of this kind of nonsense.
But we still have to, as far as I'm concerned, keep praising them when they move in the right direction.
And Trump has said a couple of things, but we don't know what it'll be tomorrow.
I just asked you a few minutes ago, anything, any news in the last couple of hours?
Anything going on over there?
Because yesterday things changed rather suddenly.
But the one thing is that would be really nice for students that are studying history and studying foreign policy, you wouldn't have too much trouble figuring out how would you define non-interventionism?
How would you define a military empire?
You know, all of a sudden it would be crystal clear, but now it's much more complex.
And the desire to put freedom and liberty for the individuals of each country at the top of the list, you can't define it.
So it's a mess.
It's continued to be.
So I'm sure there's going to be more news.
We didn't hear anything last two hours, but in the next two hours, we might hear something that said, are they going to accept the next ceasefire?
And Russia going to accept it?
And If now, you know, with the embarrassment for Zelensky at the White House, now he's saying, I'm for peace, I'm for peace.
And if that doesn't work, it's all Russia's fault.
That's probably what's going to happen.
It probably won't go through, and they'll just pile on again that Russia wouldn't participate.
Not that I think the Russians are angels, they have a mess over there, but the precipitation, the motivation for Russia to do what they have done over 50 years or so, or certainly the close down of the Cold War was not the West, NATO, United States has a lot of responsibility for creating this monster that's going on over there now.
Yeah, I think you use an important word, Dr. Paul, which is techniques.
You know, I think President Trump is sincere.
He wants to end this war.
He has other things he wants to do other things he wants to do.
Actually, I put up an article by Alistair Crook, who's one of my favorite observers today on the Ron Policy website, who explains that in very, very, very, very well.
And I encourage our viewers to have a look at that article.
He wants to get this out of the way and move on.
But the question is the techniques that he's using.
It's objectively true, whether you like it or not, that Russia is winning the war.
They were winning the war from the beginning.
There was never a question as to whether they would or would not win the war.
They have a superior military.
They have a superior industrial base.
Everything, in terms of everything that you would look at as a military analyst, they're superior.
They not only have beaten Ukraine, but they've also beaten everything that NATO has to throw at it.
So that's why it's troubling to see that Trump's technique appears to be: let's do the same thing that's been done, but hope for a different result.
Now, they had the meeting in Saudi Arabia.
You can put that first order.
This is from the Wall Street Journal.
Trump sent Rubio and Waltz, his national security advisor, to Saudi Arabia to meet with the Ukrainians to have a talk without the Russians there.
And the two of them got together and decided on a ceasefire.
And that is an important headline, Dr. Paul.
But the real headline is U.S. to restore military support to Ukraine after it agrees.
So Ukraine, which is getting absolutely pummeled in Kursk and elsewhere, they're getting destroyed there.
They get together and say, hey, that ceasefire sounds like a pretty good idea.
Let's let them stop shooting at us.
And so, what the Trump administration does then is say, okay, well, we're going to give you more weapons.
We're going to give you targeting intelligence.
I don't understand how that will convince the Russians to sit down at the table.
Hey, United States, you're jumping into the war again.
Your bombs, your bullets are going to kill Russians.
Your targets are going to allow those bombs and bullets to kill Russians.
Meanwhile, we're winning.
So why would we sit down?
What is in it for us?
That would be the question I could ask.
And I don't know.
Maybe Rubio has got some cards up his sleeve, but as Trump told Zelensky, you don't got a lot of cards to play here.
You know, he was talking about non-interventionism, and it's simple to understand that.
We certainly don't have it.
It seems like almost the opposite has taken control.
Those are the perpetuators, the ones who want to perpetuate the war.
And, you know, if there's a hint of peace, they have to change that attitude.
And I think this is the problem that we face.
And there are so many special interests involved, too.
Not only are the two countries involved, probably the people, you know, a lot of average people in Russia, average people in Ukraine, and all these areas, they probably are down on the list of people's concerns because it's why is France and the British getting so interested in this?
They're saying it'd be, oh, if there is a peace and the Americans won't step in, we'll step in.
We'll send troops over there.
You know, you know, they're not going to do that.
At least that's my opinion.
Likelihood of them doing that without somebody behind the scenes, and it is the reason why the type of foreign policy we have here now uh if, if you were, if we were in the business of being in the middle of this, how could, how can you expect or trust these talk, these talks and these promises?
Two days they can change and it's possible that they could.
Oh okay, we resolved this problem.
There's a the peace treaty's on again and and and hope, and there'll be hope for that.
But uh well, we have this uh uh policy that we perpetuate things and support with uh, with weapons and whatever they need and, at the same, at the same time, it's politically, it has changed.
You have to do it with no boots on the ground, just FBI agents and special forces and our technology.
That's on the ground okay, but no boots on the ground.
And they've been able to do that.
Um, even though uh, they still we uh who are involved in this and initiating it.
There's still a responsibility uh, for the people who die, and when you look at those bombs over there, a lot of people have died, whether you look at Ukraine or the Middle East.
Who's morally responsible for this?
And I don't think uh, that question is asked very often in our media here at home.
Well, you mentioned the Europeans claiming that they'll go it alone if we pull out.
Uh, you know, Victor Orbon, the prime minister of Hungry, made a very good point in?
Uh Paris a few days ago.
He told the leaders of the European Union, look, you had the full might of the United States military behind you for three years and Ukraine is still losing.
So now, with the?
U.s pulling out, you think, without that might be behind you, you're going to go in and win.
Keep on dreaming.
Well, let's go through a little bit of this article.
This, the result of the meeting in Saudi Arabia.
Um, so this is the?
Uh, they will lift the pause on on intel and military support.
Uh, which is the big news.
Um, so the ceasefire plan, which is contingent on Russian acceptance.
I would say that the Russians have a big problem if they accept this, as it looks at least to us.
Um, but here is uh the U.s government.
If you go to the next one, I think it's Rubio saying, uh, we will now take this offer to the Russians and we hope they'll say yes.
We hope they'll say yes to peace.
The ball is now in their court.
Well, it may not be reported as well in the U.s media, but the Russians are about to rout uh, the Ukrainians in Kursk.
They've taken a massive part of Kursk, which actually is in Russia.
The Ukrainians have lost thousands of men in Kursk.
The Russians are about to take it back.
They're on there.
I think there are 2000 people that uh surrendered.
Yes, 2000 Ukrainians that surrendered.
So anyway um, go to the next one.
Because um?
So Ukraine proposed a partial ceasefire that would have halted long-range air and drone strikes and military attacks in the Black Sea, but Kiev agreed to the American proposal for a comprehensive truce, not only with missiles, drones and bombs, but not only in the Black Sea, but the entire front line.
This to me seems like a fantasy world.
Uh, you're losing, the missiles are taking you out, but you agreed to the other guy doing a A Ceasefire.
It doesn't make sense.
And here's the other part of it: if you go next, a related question now is whether the U.S. is prepared to provide some sort of military support as a backstop for British and French peacekeepers in the event they're deployed to Ukraine.
The Russians have categorically rejected NATO fighters in Ukraine.
So this actually is a step even beyond what Biden was going to do if the Trump administration decides, okay, we're going to backstop you sending military troops in Ukraine to what?
To do what?
Fight against Russians?
It's crazy and it doesn't make any sense, Dr. Paul.
But, you know, in this negotiations going back and forth, you always hear the word of peace being thrown out.
Okay, now it's up to the Russians and now it's up to the Ukrainians.
It's all on your shoulders for peace.
But the whole thing is, I was told a long time ago when I thought, well, this is there, aren't they seriously talking about a peace treaty and peace?
And I was assured back during the Cold War by experts, they say, the Russians, people have it wrong.
The Soviets, they do want peace, but the catch is on their terms.
Everybody wants peace on their terms and they want to sit back and just enjoy their plunder.
And it doesn't work that way because after plunderers run out of funds, they get plundered themselves.
Yeah, absolutely.
So this is apparently, this is Zelensky's interpretation of the ceasefire.
I know I've not seen it in his own words, but this is a summary that I saw on X by a poster that I respect and has been accurate.
Ukraine will not accept any territorial loss.
And we have actually seen a quote from Zelensky saying, we want all the stuff back, all the territories back.
They want U.S. to enforce a ceasefire.
If Russia does not agree to the ceasefire, Russia will be punished and Ukraine will be strengthened by the USA.
Ukraine does not trust the Russians.
Okay.
No elections during ceasefire.
Now, that's been a key issue for the U.S. because if you remember, Zelensky's mandate ran out last May.
And Ukraine will prepare for the continuation of war, even through a ceasefire.
This is exactly what we had with the Minsk agreements.
And the Minsk agreements came about when a big group of Ukrainian soldiers were surrounded in Dvolsevo.
And that's when Angela Merkel and Hollande from France got together and said, let's make a deal.
Let's have a ceasefire.
And Russia said, okay, we'll take a ceasefire.
That was the Minsk agreements.
That was supposed to have solved it.
And then both Hollande and Merkel said later on, actually just last year, well, we didn't really mean a ceasefire.
We're going to rearm Ukraine while the fighting stops.
So it would be hard for me to understand the Russians taking this deal at this point.
Yeah, it would drive me nuts trying to be a diplomat in the area because I would get all mixed up because everything depends on who's telling the truth.
And I think both sides are quite capable of distorting the facts and not telling the truth.
But that you could say that happens in most politics.
Just think of what we've gone through for four years with our judicial system.
Who's telling the truth?
Who are the evil people that are doing this?
And even now, we still have to have to wonder, you know, who's telling the truth.
And even the economic reports that I watch, most people know, or a lot of people know, even though they have to react to it, know that even the financial reports, whether they're CPIs or whatever, aren't necessarily, well, the first thing is they can't know.
And then the second thing is they probably make up the thing.
But there's always a political pressure to try to mold the scenario, which I think is impossible.
This is dangerous, danger.
It's all dangerous.
But the loss of this concept that you could trust people, you know, you can read throughout history how there'll be isolated diplomats like prior to World War II get together on both sides and really are talking to each other and telling the truth.
But unfortunately, we don't have enough of it.
Yeah.
And the thing is, Americans have this idea we have to take sides.
Dangerous Diplomacy 00:08:01
We're on team Ukraine.
We're on team Russia.
The fact is you need to look objectively in a very cold and calculated way.
What is happening on the ground and what we can we do to protect American interests.
That's what it's all about.
It's not in our interest to spend 200 billion dollars on a war that was lost, and that's exactly what's happened.
So why would you continue?
Doesn't matter.
If you wish Ukraine would win, that's fine.
You know, I wish I was rich, but i'm not.
So that's how it goes.
You have to deal with reality as you see it.
So that's how it's going.
Now I do have one thing, i'm going to skip a couple of clips that we don't need, but I do want to do that.
Second clip, because everyone is talking about, even in our chat right now, is that our good friend Doug Mcgregor was on with our other good friend, Tucker Carlson, and Doug sent me a clip last night, um of the show.
But here's a great clip it's.
We want to do about 48 seconds of this here.
Contrast this with Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz, who are over there trying to make a deal for a ceasefire.
Uh, that makes no sense at all to anyone.
Contrast that with someone like Curtain Mcgregor, who understands what it means to make peace.
Let's put that uh.
Second clip on the middle clip, the Mcgregor, one clip and let's do 48 seconds of that just as an example of him talking to Tucker Carlson.
Here we go.
Let's listen to the colonel on this.
One, end all military aid right now to the Ukrainians period.
Done number two, get all of the Americans out of Ukraine immediately.
Everybody intelligence civilians, contractors.
That's why I think most of us voted for president Trump.
We saw him as someone who would say no and diverge from that path, and that's why I would urge the president to do exactly what I said, end all aid to Ukraine.
Stop pretending that that government and anything we've done in that country is a positive thing.
It's not, has nothing to do with liberal democracy, has nothing to do with goodness in any form.
What we've done there is terrible.
What we need to do is stop it.
So stop sending any aid and then get everybody out, everybody.
And then offer to host a conference between and I would not argue everybody in Europe, but I would certainly argue all of the states that border Russia and Germany, because Germany may not border Russia no, but Germany.
But that's.
That's a simple it's.
It's almost too simple.
Just stop the war, isn't?
It's not working out.
You know the first two sentences.
I said this is neat.
Keep it simple.
Yeah, yeah and uh the, the politicians, the people who are conniving and the people wanting to get their own special interests.
They don't want it to be understandable and that's why it sorts it out.
They don't.
Well we'll, it'll be sorted out because you know they're, You know, the reporters and this media, they'll sort it out.
Then they're a participant.
And I often look at this stuff.
This is all very important, and the truth isn't coming up.
And I keep thinking, well, I hope somebody just keeps a record of this, at least to have an accurate, believable record in history.
And sometimes that does happen, but it's very frustrating.
And I think this is why some People.
Don't like to get messed up in politics, because because they they never can figure out who's telling the truth.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I had another clip from the Mcgregor interview that I thought was interesting.
I didn't mention it to you, but I think you'll enjoy it.
I don't know that you've been able to watch it yet, but let's do that second Mcgregor clip and I think it's a whole clip, this now before we cue it up.
This is chilling because he's talking about thousands of Ukrainians, including Ukrainian intelligence agents, here in the?
U.s and the danger.
Listen closely to this.
This is really interesting, if we can cue that up.
Yeah, play this whole clip.
The Ukrainians are not in the same category.
They seem to be a rogue organization.
Now you know we've got what?
200 000 of them here in the United States and I don't know how many thousands of them are working for the SBU, the Ukrainian secret police that are now running around threatening everyone that has criticized Ukraine or opposed uh support for Ukraine.
An Alex Jones staffer was just murdered two days ago who was on some lists put together by the Ukrainian government or its supporters of critics.
He was murdered outside of his house.
I mean it's.
I don't think it's crazy to think, given the number of assassinations they've pulled off or attempted, that he was killed by them.
You think that's possible?
Well, I would be very worried about our president, you know.
I think the president is very much at risk and these people seem to know no sense of limitation.
They uh, they're capable of anything.
So I hope the Secret Service is on its toes i'm sure Kash Patel is well aware of this and the FBI I.
I just don't have any good feelings right now about the Ukrainians.
I think they're.
That's.
That's worrisome.
He mentioned the Alex Jones staffer who was on this list was killed yeah, was killed and talk and uh, Mcgregor rightly says i'd be worried about president Trump, because we know the first was it the first or the second?
The second guy that tried to kill him was a was a Ukraine fanatic and he was in Kiev.
He'd met with people in Kiev and people are wondering what was he up to over there?
So he's right he'd be worried.
The numbers are astounding.
It's wonderful and well, what if the the case is that?
Uh if, if you're on the targeted side of this and you start to back off and tinker around with your policy and back off.
Then the opposition just gets encouraged.
Oh, you know, our terrorist attacks on people and threat that we're going to kill you.
Uh, that and I think this is what he's talking about this could get a lot worse.
I can't believe there's that many people in here and people that have been on that list have been killed, you know, including Daria Dugina uh, including who knows?
Maybe this.
I wonder if they've been vetted.
Yeah, we've been talking about immigration for a long time, but maybe we're missing some of the immigrants that have come here for so-called Legal reasons and diplomatic reasons.
We're in a much better worst mess and somebody coming here and looking for work.
And maybe they have relations with rogue elements of our own intelligence community or deep state.
I wanted to bring something up because this came out yesterday.
Our friends at the gray zone, Max Blumenthal, they do great work.
As you know, Dr. Paul, they had an amazing article out on the same topic because we're talking about people on lists and how dangerous it might be.
Put this next one up because U.S.-funded Ukraine group.
If you can, no, it's not an audio, Dr. Paul.
It's just a clip.
It's an article they came out with yesterday.
U.S. funded.
I'll keep going forward.
Keep going.
I'm going to skip these for now.
So this is interesting, Dr. Paul.
U.S.-funded Ukraine group that smeared Vice President Vance as a Russian propagandist.
This is Molfar, which is an NGO in Ukraine, funded by USAID.
Go to that next clip.
They attacked then Senator Vance, now Vice President Vance, as a foreign propagandist, and they listed him on their list of foreign propagandists, demanding their removal from public positions, etc.
Now go back.
This is a long list.
My friend Eric Garris at antiwar.com sent it to me yesterday.
Go to the next one.
So here is Vice President Vance on the list of this Ukrainian NGO that gets money from the USA.
Here's all the information about him.
This is very dangerous.
And Dr. Paul, I went down the list because Eric said, take a good look at it.
Go to that next clip.
Who else is on the list?
I don't like this very much at all.
I'm on the list.
So it's scary that we have these people here in this country and you have lists of people who are considered enemies.
You know, the other thing that they talked about yesterday was that the people still in office, USAID, they're able to erase the records.
I thought, I guess it takes a long time to get in charge of a monster government.
Home Stretch Challenges 00:03:24
And it was out in the open.
And I don't even think they were trying to hide it.
Yeah.
It was almost like you weren't doing that and where you're getting erased.
Nobody was arrested.
But you say, well, why isn't Trump doing more or something?
But then when you think about it, to deal with this problem where there are tens of thousands of people involved in this thing, that the American taxpayer has a rough time surviving.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I'm going to close out.
Oh, no, no.
We have a bonus clip.
I forgot our bonus clip.
Why do I keep forgetting this?
It's such a great clip.
Darn it.
Let's put on this.
This is what I'm on.
I know.
This is my friend.
Come on, my friend.
That's right.
I feel terrible.
Yes, let's do our bonus clip.
Ronald Reagan can't argue with Reagan.
This is kind of a long one, but it's a heck of a way to send us off here on today's show.
Ronald Reagan, November 26th, 1988.
This was his speech titled Radio Address to the Nation and the Canadian Elections and Free Trade.
Our peaceful trading partners are not our enemies.
They are our allies.
We should beware of the demagogues who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends, weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world, all while cynically waving the American flag.
The expansion of the international economy is not a foreign invasion.
It is an American triumph, one we worked hard to achieve, and something central to our vision of a peaceful and prosperous world of freedom.
After the Second World War, America led the way to dismantle trade barriers and create a world trading system that set the stage for decades of unparalleled economic growth.
Yes, back in 1776, our founding fathers believed that free trade was worth fighting for.
And we can celebrate their victory because today, trade is at the core of the alliance that secure the peace and guarantee our freedom.
It is the source of our prosperity.
And the path to an even brighter future for America.
Until next week.
Thanks for listening and God bless you.
And thanks to my colleague Norman Singleton for sending it over to us.
Oh, that's a great clip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I was listening to this now.
This is so astounding.
It's such a challenge to current events.
I thought, Daniel, is RPI going to be put on our list today?
What list are we going to be on?
You're already on the list.
But no, that is neat to hear.
Yeah.
So thank you.
Well, I'll close out and put on that last clip.
And we are in the home stretch, guys.
Home stretch, Trump, America in the Age of Trump 2.0.
Put that last clip on.
Here we go.
We've got about a week and a half before we're all going to gather down here in Lake Jackson.
The crowd looks to be very good, Dr. Paul.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
I will put a link in where you can get those last-minute tickets, especially you guys out here in Texas.
I mean, Dr. Paul, it's a small state.
You can get anywhere in a couple of hours.
But no, seriously, we're looking forward to seeing a lot of folks down there.
Dr. Paul, over to you.
Very good.
Home Stretch 00:02:36
You know, one of the goals of the cultural Marxists has always been to create chaos in our streets.
And I think most people have realized that they've been pretty successful at this.
But I think the chaos that they want is even bigger than that.
And our foreign policy, you know, when you think of what was going on for four years and the task of trying to straighten that up, that's a bit of chaos too.
And even there, we see dissension and how things change.
We just made this point about what Ronald Reagan was saying about free trade and what our current president thinks about free trade.
So these are important items that, you know, are about, but it seems like one thing that survives all this is the chaos.
That's why I like the preciseness of giving an answer and getting down to what principle is being violated for welfarism, for the rich, the poor, and everybody.
And what are the principles that guarantee that the goal of government ought to be to guarantee and protect the liberties that we are naturally given to us?
So, but complicating it, why do we have millions of people?
And what about the war killing and the fighting?
How many people do we kill in the name of peace?
And it's just horrible.
That's why this statement by Reagan, I think, is so fantastic.
And it was not confusing at all.
And you knew where he stood on it.
That didn't make him a perfect president, but it made him a nice person because I personally knew him better than any of the other presidents.
But now that people look back and see President Reagan, they realize that our country is still in chaos.
He had to deal with chaos.
He had to deal with the Soviets at the time.
So I think that it's achievable.
People say it's too messy.
Give up.
You guys are crazy for thinking you could dig out and figure out what is true and what is not.
Well, tell you what, if we quit doing that, I think it's all over for all of us.
And because then that is a concession that nihilism rules the day.
You can't know truth.
And it's the bullies and the rich and the powerful and the militarists that will rule the day.
And they have upper hands at times, but there's no reason to think that it's impossible to move in the direction of peace and prosperity.
And that's what we intend to do, make our effort to move toward The principle of peace and prosperity with our organization.
And I want to thank everybody for tuning in today to the Liberty Report.
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