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Nov. 11, 2024 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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With Trump, Department Of Justice Terrified...Of Justice!

According to Politico, lawfare partisans in the Department of Justice are heading for the exits, terrified that they may be brought to justice over their four - or eight? - years of abusing their authority for political gain. Also today: Could it be...Vivek? Finally, yet another reason to hate FEMA.

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Keeping Eyes Open 00:05:56
Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today, we have Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you this morning?
We were just talking and thinking a little bit about what's going on.
You know, there's a lot of sorting out to be done.
Who's going where and who's going to get credit and all this kind of stuff?
And, you know, we played, I think we played, and it should be unusual to even mention it, a bit of a role in it, because some of these people who look like they're going to be key player on a positive side in the Trump administration actually sought us out and wanted to be on our program and came to visit us and came to our conferences.
So in a little way, we've participated in it, but we're also keeping our eyes open.
But I think Trump is saying a couple things to send out some reassurance to those like us that they're, you know, yeah, we're all set, but we're going to, we hope it lasts, especially because, you know, the evidence does show that, you know, that he does vacillate a bit.
But he is also one that has mentioned that he doesn't admit to much shortcomings, but he sort of acknowledges stuff that he could have done a better job on personnel.
So anyway, right now, we want to start off with an article dealing with the DOJ.
There's need to be a lot of reform there.
All I can think of when you and I talked about the DOG, it makes me think of crooked cops.
And that is so bad.
And also, I dated the 60s as a big step in the wrong direction with the coup going on in America by the use of the CIA and the FBI and the secret organization.
An assassination.
And the assassinations have continued, not so much.
Well, there was an attempted assassination, even against Trump.
So that I thought was a very, very big time.
And I still think that some people are still who have worked up there and know the system, been in the CIA, that Trump has to keep his eyes and ears open because what a way it had to be.
It sort of reminds you of what we might envision about the Soviet system.
You couldn't trust anybody.
So I hope it never gets quite that bad, but I do think Trump's heard the warning well enough, and I think his common sense is telling him, you know, this security is pretty important.
Yeah.
Well, I think on your first point, I think we could take a little bit of pride for a small organization like ours, you know, how we have had, you know, I mean, we've had RFK Jr. on the show.
He's spoken at our conferences.
Tulsi Gabbard's been on the show.
Vivek Ramaswamy, who we'll talk about later, has been on the show a couple of times.
You know, and it's not to toot our own horn too much, but I think it just shows that we kind of have our fingers on the polls pretty well.
And we're still, you know, we're still, so I think we need to stop for a minute and be happy about that.
The other thing you mentioned about neocons, we didn't really have it on the show to talk about today, but over the weekend, Trump put out a post on his Truth Social where he said, I'm not going to have Pompeo.
I'm not going to have Nikki Hayden.
We've been talking about Pompeo for a couple of shows.
He's, I'm not going to have these guys in the administration at all, which is great.
And then Don Jr. reposted something on X where he's, I forget the exact wording, is, we got to get rid of all the neocons, not just Pompey and the others.
So it's a good sign that at least they know two things.
One, that these guys are out there and they are slathering.
They can't wait to get jobs.
And two, that there are a lot of groups, ours included, and many others who are keeping an eye on this thing.
We're not going to have the wool pulled over our eyes again.
Well, then the big question is coming up now: how many of these individuals that played Dirty Pool, you know, are going to be punished.
And Trump has said something that he's going to take care of those people, and he probably will.
But there has to be some moderate way of accomplishing that because if it's only vengeance, you know, even if they deserve it, it doesn't solve their problems.
But the one thing that is real, because there have been several articles expressing the concern of those people in limbo that know that they were wrong, they were doing the wrong thing.
But they would never say they were doing something wrong and have guilt about it.
They would say, well, we made a bad choice and somebody messed up and didn't do, didn't answer a question right.
And that's the reason.
But some of those diehards.
Nothing has changed.
We just have to work harder and do the same thing and be tougher on it.
So I think that right now they have a right to be worried.
They should be.
And I think the more they clean the slate, the better.
It's just start over by clean out the stables.
Well, here's an article we're talking about.
It was in Politico this morning, and we thought it would be good to bring up because it's sort of ironic.
And I put it in the title in a way: people that are running the Department of Justice are terrified of justice.
This is the political piece.
Many in government are worried about Trump's return at DOJ.
They're terrified.
I go to the next one.
This is what they're talking about.
A collective sense of dread has taken hold at the Department of Justice.
Talk about waking up in a good mood when you see that.
Democracy's Dictatorship Dilemma 00:07:46
Which drew Donald Trump's rage like no other part of the federal government during his campaign.
Well, I wonder why that was.
You know, they waged lawfare on him for four years.
You know, the whole Russian gate thing was within the Department of Justice, the FBI.
Remember all those memos and everything?
They were at war with him for four years, and now Politico acts like it's somehow not appropriate for him to be a little irritated.
Yeah.
The worst thing would be to just wipe the slate clear and let him go.
And there should be some notification.
They have to have maybe some mark on their forehead.
I was one of those bad guys.
But that's not going to happen.
But, you know, one thing I wanted to mention, though, is about the coup that went on in the middle of all this.
And because, you know, Democrats, they believe in democracy in a different way than we suggest you should believe in it.
But they believe in having a vote.
But most people now consider that the Democrats in their infighting did a coup and got rid of Biden and forced him out.
And even he seemed to be surprised.
You mean I'm not president.
I'm not going to run for president anymore.
But, you know, the democracy thing, I think, is there is democracy.
A lot of times when I make, and libertarians make the point that democracy is the dictatorship of the majority, and just put the majority together is just as evil as that's where they get their power and authority.
So I think that I've often mentioned that the market is a good example of good democracy and people vote.
I was always taught that the consumer is king.
And that meant that businessman doesn't get any benefits and the working class doesn't.
It's all a marketplace.
And if the product is good and the money is made, and people do better.
But a lot of people think that's too cold, but it works a little bit better than that.
But I think the market has it.
But the market in a social political sense occurred this past week or so, because there was an election.
And actually, it probably came out a little stronger than I would have predicted percentage-wise.
So I consider that a, I think the, well, I want to call it the ultimate jury has spoken.
The people spoke, and it wasn't, you didn't have to have lobbyists telling them how to vote.
I mean, the people who wanted to influence them, and they were mostly influenced by high prices.
And that is what got to them.
And the stupidity of spending money in Ukraine and different places and having so many problems here at home.
So I would like to think that what's happened recently was an ultimate jury announcement, and they have spoken, and yet the other side who believes in democracy, as long as they can dictate the democracy, can understand it, which they don't.
I mean, they're authoritarians, and they use any terms that they want.
And that's the wonderful part about libertarianism.
You don't have to worry about solving every problem other than that the people aren't allowed to fight and kill and steal.
They let the people sort this thing out, and the market can do this.
And elections, in a way, can do it.
It tells you what the prevailing attitude is.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, democracy for these people means we win.
If we didn't win, it's not democracy.
But, you know, in justice, it's really, I mean, and you see this, and I remember this.
I was actually just looking back at an article I wrote when Trump was first elected in 1916, took office in 17.
You started getting a whole slew of these articles saying, oh my gosh, Trump is going to fire people.
How dare he?
And it's like he's not allowed to have his own people because that's not democratic.
And let's put this up because we actually see it here in the Politico article.
This is a quote.
Many federal employees are terrified that we'll be replaced with partisan loyalists, not just because our jobs are on the line, but because we know that our democracy, there we go again, and country depend on a government supported by a merit-based, apolitical civil service.
What she's saying is that she doesn't want political appointments in the Justice Department of people that disagree with the people who have been in charge.
And if a president, you know, they want the permanent government.
A president is elected, he brings in his own team, whether it's in foreign policy, domestic policy, economic policy, for better or worse, as you point out, he was hired by the people.
And to say that he shouldn't be able to appoint anyone he wants to to any position with the advice and consent of the Senate is sour grapes in my opinion.
Yeah, I would say that more than half, maybe closer to 90% of motivation by a lot of politicians is not what they say it is.
It's not there to really help the people.
I think the motivation deep down, even though they won't admit it, is power.
And they like to have control.
And that's what you were talking about there.
People want to have authority over people.
That's why the word authoritarian is a good word, because that means it's the cancelization out of personal choices and merit, a true merit system.
So that is the system that has worked better when you get a hint of it.
There's never been a pure system like that, but the more merit system that you have, and the more freedom of choices, and a more natural law you have where people act decently, the better the society is, less wars there are, and there's the more prosperity.
So, this hope that we're witnessing maybe a turning point where we'll move in that direction.
We certainly have had some hints that they're trying to get this administration to move in that direction.
Yeah.
Well, let's look at one more from this article.
Go to that one with the headline, differing impacts across DOJ divisions.
I think you have to skip forward one, if you don't mind, if we can find that clip.
Here we go.
So, here's one section from the same Politico article that I think is indicative of what they're trying to say.
So, Trump's impact may be most pronounced in Justice's National Security Division, which he blames for the Russia-related woes of his first term, as well as places like the Civil Rights Division, long a target of hard-right lawyers closest to Tom.
So, you have a lot of characterization in this sentence, is a very loaded sentence.
But what it doesn't say, it's not that he blames the National Security Division of Justice for the Russia-related woes.
That's where it originated.
They created it, they cooked it up out of whole cloth, and it was a pack of lies.
So, saying he's not really right to be upset about this is absurd.
You know, I said in general, a lot of politicians run because secretly or outwardly they're they want power.
But the very worst aggressive desires of power, you know, get into these positions where the more secret it is, the more powerful they are.
And that's why you have a CIA.
And this is why, over the years, the people who truly believed in a republic say the republic can't exist if you have anything close to what a CIA does because that's government secrecy, and that's already giving up the principles of a free society because you don't know who's spying on us.
But they have some that aren't quite so secret.
They have the IRS, they're a little more apparent.
All they have to do is send you a little friendly note and terrorize the community.
Kurt Mills Takes Over 00:03:33
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Well, let's move on to something that kind of surprised us this morning.
And I've been, I have, I'm bleary.
I spent the whole weekend just seeing where things were going because the early days are very important.
And I have to say, I didn't see this coming in this way.
Kurt Mills is now the new editor of the American Conservative.
He's a young fellow.
He's a very talented observer, in my opinion, and a good writer.
So, I was surprised when I saw this article, if you can put this up.
The American Conservative, Vivek Ramaswamy, dark horse Secretary of State candidate by Kurt Mills at the American Conservative.
If you go to the next one, the American Conservative can confirm that President-elect Donald Trump's search for Secretary of State has narrowed to four candidates: Richard Rick Grinnell, his former ambassador to Germany and acting director of national intelligence, Marco Rubio, the Florida senator and runner-up to be Trump's vice president, Bill Haggerty, the Tennessee senator and former ambassador to Japan,
and dot dot dot drum roll Vivek Ramaswamy, the former presidential candidate, turned fierce Trump surrogate.
Interesting.
You know, Kamala has received justified criticism of somebody that couldn't handle herself in any of the positions because she mumbles her words.
It's difficult to understand what they're saying.
But the one thing is, as I watched Vivek in a debate yesterday, I can't remember.
It was on a news station.
One thing neat, he's been on all the news stations.
It's just not just Fox.
But he was debating a liberal.
I don't know the name, but it doesn't matter, but a typical liberal.
And it was a pretty dignified debate going on.
But I'll tell you, if you wanted to pick a winner, this guy is great on debating.
He knows how to use the language.
Remember how charming he was on our show.
But you know what?
You just reminded me of something else I saw that Vivek did when he was on the campaign trail.
And I forget exactly the venue, but he was taking questions from the audience.
And it was a young man, I think, who was really challenging him.
He was a liberal.
He said some really nasty things.
And I think other people were kind of shouting him down.
But Vivek said, no, hang on a minute, let him talk.
And then he just took some time and went through each one of this young person's points and gave a counterpoint in a calm, friendly way.
And I sort of admired it because I tend to lose my temper.
Yeah, I mean, he kept his temper, very cool-headed, and it was very impressive.
You know, in the free speech movement in the 60s, that might even be before you were born, you know.
But it was a big deal, and all the universities out in California and different places, they were expressing themselves.
And they had this little clip.
And free speeches mean you means you have no rules, no etiquette, and nobody can control you.
Well, this student got up, and I guess they had an unfriendly speaker up there.
And this young person just let loose vulgarities and everything probably went on three, four, five minutes.
It was way too long.
And the speaker says, now that you gave us your name, what's your question?
That was the end of that one.
That's good.
That's good.
That's your name, and that's your trademark.
Well, let's go on to the next one.
Last Year's Shift 00:09:44
This is Kurt doing a little analysis and speculation on what it might mean if Ramaswamy is tapped for a state.
If you go to the next one, so here's, and I tend to agree with this.
He said a shock selection of Ramaswamy would be the clearest indication yet that Trump intends to become the ideological standard-bearer for the American right for decades, for the American right for the decades to come.
A tough-minded commitment to foreign policy, realism and restraint, limited and controlled immigration, and an adult approach to trade is poised to supplant not only the discredited Bush Project, but also sideline Ronald Reagan, now dead 20 years, as the most significant Republican inspiration for the still young 21st century.
Now, that's a little bit of flowery language, which is nice to read sometimes, but I think he makes a point that this would really signal that this is a different kind of administration, having someone.
And I wouldn't have expected Ramaswamy to be in the running for state because he's known for his business acumen and his understanding of economics.
So the side is advocating a more sensible foreign policy, you know, sort of has an edge right now.
The American people, I believe, have given support because they've always been more supportive of a non-interventionist foreign policy.
Maybe not exactly what we would like to see, but they've been supportive of it.
So the military-industrial complex, of course, had a lot of influence over Cuba and these other things that led to Kennedy's assassination.
So right now, I think the big question is, and that's what people warn Trump, make sure you have your security up because where is the military-industrial complex?
I just can't believe they feel maybe a little humbled or more cautious, but maybe more aggressive.
The big question is, how powerful are they going to be?
What will they do?
Will they resort to the violence that they have in the past?
But it's been going on in most, a lot of stuff that they want to do around the world.
That's what they have to give up.
If you don't want terrorism, because everything now, if you're anti-American, you're a terrorist, and you don't ever ask the question, why are you doing this to America?
Well, you've been bombing my country for five years and you killed 50,000 people, and that's why we're doing this.
But I don't think we know where that stands.
And the conditions that we're seeing right now in our political system are encouraging.
So I think we better be cautious about where the military-industrial complex is.
We'll wait and see how the next debate goes in the Congress.
Yeah, I mean, I think we don't agree.
I mean, we kind of pressed him, if you remember, on foreign policy a little bit when we had him on the show, Vivek on the show.
We pressed him a little bit.
And there are things we don't agree with him on.
We think he's too hawkish on China.
You know, he says we have to keep backstopping Taiwan.
I don't think that's a smart thing to do.
At least militarily, it's not a smart thing to do.
But nevertheless, he showed himself to be a thoughtful person who I think his instincts are to be more restrained.
And in a world, especially in foreign policy, where the neocons seem to have, you know, every post, just putting someone with a sense of restraint, a sense of what can and should be done into a position like that, I think it would be a great start for the administration.
I have a foreign policy question for you.
You are the expert.
Okay, in this article, it said, and he's quoting, and I think he's quoting here, he is quoting Ramaswamy.
In my ideal view of this, Israel should be able to make the decisions of how it defends itself and its national self-existence.
And we provide a diplomatic iron dome for Israel to be able to carry that out.
I don't know what the details of that would be.
Do you think it's I think what he means here is that we would backstop them like in the UN with votes, how we've always voted with Israel.
You know, we would provide diplomatic cover for what they do.
But he also said in that same quote, if I'm not mistaken, that we shouldn't be backing them up with money.
He's not here to get it.
Yeah, that's the end of the sentence.
No money.
Yeah, no money.
So I would think where we are today to move to that position, that is teeny on what he's suggesting.
But that would be in the category of diplomacy.
Yeah, I mean, I think that makes a lot of sense.
We will help our friends.
And, you know, you've said this for years.
They should be able to defend themselves however they want to.
That's their business.
It shouldn't be ours.
We shouldn't micromanage what they're doing.
But that last part, no money.
That's a good part.
And the American people, I bet are 85% on our side.
Yeah, the rest are working in the defense plants.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Well, the last story we're going to cover is someone who's definitely not on our side.
Put this one on.
This is the outrage of the week.
But we want to share it in case you missed it.
So move ahead to the Zero Hedge article, FEMA official.
There you go.
Thank you very much.
FEMA official removed after, quote, avoid Trump houses message leaks.
DeSantis orders investigations.
So this is an official with the federal.
Why am I not surprised about this, Dr. Paul?
An official with FEMA, she was giving out directions to people under her.
And if you go to the next one, here is the text message she sent her employees.
She said, implement best practices.
No one goes anywhere alone.
Avoid homes advertising Trump.
To me, this is, I'm surprised and shocked.
You're not surprised.
But what I'm surprised is how stupid they are to put it in writing.
And the evidence is there.
But that's a sign of arrogance.
They probably never thought for a minute they'd ever be caught.
But that is so bad.
And it's also one of the reasons I was able to vote against FEMA.
And you were around when we talked to her.
Matter of fact, you took a few phone calls.
The people calling in.
Some would be very angry, but a lot of them switched their opinion later on when they had to compete with the agencies, the government agency.
FEMA would be in there preventing the owners to go in and get their private personal goods at their own risk.
I think I would, well, anyway, it's a pretty interesting thing that happens.
But I'm amazed that you could see the evidence.
I mean, we knew that goes on, but you'd think they would be smart enough to pretend it was nobody knew.
You kind of wonder what makes you more angry.
The arrogance of doing it or the ignorance of thinking you could get away with doing it, you know?
It's just incredible.
But, you know, if she hadn't sent that text, though, and someone had said they seem to be avoiding people with Trump signs, they'd say, you're a conspiracy theorist.
You're a far-right conspiracy theorist.
You did us a favor, but all is well that ends well.
Put the next one up.
This is the New York Post, put out a post over the weekend.
There she is.
She has been fired.
So that is a good sign, at least.
But, you know, if she hadn't been caught, if she hadn't been so dumb and sent it as a text message, she probably would have gotten away with it.
She probably would have had people cover for her.
So anyway, at least she's gone.
Now they've got to get rid of a few more at FEMA.
Our job will be around for a while.
Yeah, we'll be around for a while.
So do you have anything more?
I have a tidbit for my closing.
I'll just close then and actually, let's put on that bonus clip if you can.
I'm sorry with little notice.
While we're tooting our horns, a toot our horns Monday, put on that.
I'm sorry to spring it on you, but I just wanted to mention, we've been putting the show on Twitter X, and it's been increasing, increasing, increasing in viewership.
Now, you and Chris had a milestone on Friday.
You had a great show where you were talking about Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Fed, saying he wouldn't step down if he was asked to.
Great show, but equally great is if you look down there, 19 million people took a look at the show.
That is an astonishing number.
As we sit here on Twitter with our loyal fans, who we like very much, it's nowhere in that ballpark.
So we're very happy at the increased viewership we're getting on Twitter X, and we're grateful for having a free speech platform.
Well, if I was in charge on that page, I'd have to check it out and make sure there wasn't a typing error.
That is pretty more than CNN gets in a month.
I always thought that truth wins out in the end, and you've got to be satisfied with little tidbits and time, and eventually people will come around.
And I would like to think that people in this last year or two have come around.
And I always assume there has to be a motivation.
The motivation is probably the price of bread, you know, and a few other things.
So I would just finish by, first of all, we're very happy to have that increased viewership.
But if you put on that last clip from the first section, just to remind you, I've been watching Bitcoin over the weekend, over 80,000 for Bitcoin.
It's pretty amazing to see.
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Very good.
I want to close by a tidbit from the election.
It's probably been mentioned out there, but I had not heard much about it, and it's not a top priority with the news media.
But the news I got here is Americans staged a property tax revolt on Election Day.
And Texans, you know, know about property taxes.
And they say, well, we don't have an income tax and this sort of thing.
We spend too much money just like all the other states.
And we have way too high taxes.
But Florida, Georgia, among the states that voted for certain limits on property taxes, well, North Dakota had the right point.
Well, North Dakota rejected the complete ban.
So that I think is just great because it's a spending issue that goes on.
And property is just so important.
Everybody, it diminishes people's opportunity today because they can't get the down payment.
You have the inflationary pressures coming from our monetary system and the government spending.
It's going to be, it's very, very hard.
When you look at the taxes going up, if you take care of your house and pay, you know, to take care of it, then you get your bill.
The bill comes up.
Because I'm convinced, sorry about this, but I have to admit to myself and to others, we don't own our houses.
As long as this happens, the government owns everything.
And whether it's your income or whether it's your property, you get to stay in your house if you do exactly what the government says on regulations on what you do and build and pay your taxes.
So that is absolutely same way with IRS.
That's theft because the assumption is it's a form of slavery.
What they say, if you make $1,000 this year, that goes to the government.
And if you follow what we tell you to do, we'll allow you to keep some of it.
And they'll designate.
So they divvy it up your money.
So those principles have to be challenged if we really want to see a move toward liberty, which is our goal.
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