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Aug. 23, 2024 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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Is Democracy The Road To Liberty Or A Trojan Horse

Are “we” really the government, as the champions of democracy like to say? If your business was unnecessarily locked down, and closed as a result, did you do that to yourself? When government officials repeatedly lie to you, are you simply lying to yourself? The “land of the free” has the largest and most indebted government in all of human history? Did “we" really do this to ourselves, while calling it “freedom?” Or was it rather done to us, under the guise of “freedom and democracy?"

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Milestone For Gold 00:01:55
Hello everybody.
Thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today we have Chris Rossini as a co-host.
Chris, welcome to the program.
Hello Dr. Paul.
Great to be with you.
You know today we want to talk about democracy because we've been listening to this campaign going on and evidently democracy is really pretty neat.
It takes care of everything.
But we will take a slightly different position on the democracy.
But before we do that, there was a milestone.
I was going to say a milestone for gold, the price of gold.
But it really is a milestone for the devaluation of the dollar because a 400-ounce bar of gold hit a million dollars all in that one bar of gold at $2,500.
So that tells you that the dollar is not doing well.
And we've talked about gold a lot.
We think gold can protect against the inflation.
I believe that in inflation, the valuation of the dollar will continue as long as there's deficit.
And people should use that as a statement that we're going to have inflation and we're going to have deficit because I don't see how they will get rid of the deficit or the debt.
So that'll continue.
But if you want to know a little bit more about investing in gold and shifting some stock from regular stocks over to gold stocks, Birch Gold Group will help you on that.
So if you text them at Ron 989898, they'll send you some free material and help you along to get started because I think the $1 million per bar is going to keep going.
But who knows, maybe it'll be 10 ounces of gold.
10 ounces of gold will be $1 million at the rate they're doing.
The Constitution's Betrayal 00:05:49
And yet, everybody seems to be pretty happy.
The markets are doing well.
And nobody seems to be complaining where people identify who it is that's complaining.
But I think we face a terrible mess.
So this is the reason I think it's worthwhile getting in touch with Birch Gold Group.
And once again, that's text Ron 989898.
And now today, Chris, we want to start our talk about democracy because we hear it, especially during this campaign.
You know, if I listen to it, it really disgusts me, to tell you the truth.
You hear these people that no more have a desire or an understanding of what personal liberty is all about.
They don't have any desire or an understanding about what really the founders tried to do and what the Constitution says.
And they don't have any idea what kind of an economic policy we would have, what kind of personal liberties would be protected, and how we would be a lot less involved in the internal affairs of other nations.
So with all that, we have to realize that this is going to continue, but we should identify things.
But the words I use in the campaign a lot, in the presidential campaign, is democracy.
Well, we're for democracy, boy.
Democracy sounds like pretty good stuff.
So I better go back and review.
I don't think it is pretty good stuff.
I think it's wicked.
I think it's pure deception.
And that's been around a long time.
You know, Tocqueville talked about democracy and he said that what we were doing, this was I believe in the 1850s.
He says, if we continue to do this and overemphasize democracy, that you will have a dictatorship of the majority.
And by people, and I would say, and by people who pretend they care about the minority.
They're always the champions of minority, and they get away with it.
And they go and they support this stuff.
That enhances the power of a few individuals.
I think the one big lesson on this issue would be the whole thing about the campaign.
You know, theoretically, the local political structure and the state, they'd elect candidates and have conventions and all.
But they go through a primary race to sort it out and find out who should be the candidate.
But this time is really remarkable that we have a candidate in the Democratic Party.
She never got a vote.
They didn't bother going through that.
And they get annoyed when somebody says, that's like a coup.
She just took it over and got appointed by Nancy Pelosi and her crowd.
And it happened.
So this is really, really pretty disgusting.
But it's all done in the name of democracy.
And of course, it's exactly the opposite of democracy.
To me, the big difference is, you know, the democracy sounds good.
You know, find out what the people want.
51% say we're not going to do it, then we should do it.
Of course, 51% might be a gang.
It might be a gang that banded together.
There were 10 different bands together and they were able to steal elections and undermine the whole system.
Authoritarianism is what they endorse.
And what libertarians endorse is in every way conceivable, we should use voluntarism.
You know, voluntarily get along with your neighbors and not use force.
And if you think there's somebody that needs some help, you're never prohibited from giving that help, but you never give license to the politicians who decide who needs the help and who doesn't.
And many people know that all this stuff about democracy and help the poor people, what it does, it helps the big guys and it helps the big corporation.
So that was why I say one of my biggest surprises when I went to Washington is that fact that the real socialism and dependency came from the people who were voting to think they were going to get benefits from them and thinking to help the poor people.
But basically, it helps the rich people.
And if the inflation machine that they use, it never works out because the cost of living for the individuals, especially the low class and middle income, the cost of living goes up much faster than the benefits that are to try to satisfy the people by just passing out benefits and running up the deficit, which makes the whole problem work.
This is a system of they've used it.
It's very annoying because they get away with it.
But everybody sort of bows for democracy.
And I argue the case that one of the most crucial debates with our Constitution was had the majority actually define the preciseness of citizens who should be taken care of.
So that is, you know, if you don't endorse slavery and a few other things that was left in the Constitution, then you have to say the majority ruled.
Even Though Wrong 00:11:54
And that's not the whole case because I happen to like the Constitution in a lot of ways.
But it's an example of how majorities don't do the right things necessarily.
And one thing is, is they deceive everybody.
All you have to do is mention democracy, democracy, and everybody, oh, we're for democracy.
We'll do whatever you want.
Even if you cancel all the elections, look at the last presidential election.
That hardly represented democracy.
And this go around, it looks like it'll be some of the same problems.
And Chris, you, of course, have an opinion about this as well.
Yes, Dr. Paul.
And yes, democracy, it gives the illusion that we, quote unquote, are the government, which is obviously not true if somebody just takes a quick second to think about it.
Just think about during the COVID lockdowns.
And if you went out of business because your small business, not the big business, if your small business was locked down, you have to be shut down, and you ended up going out of business.
Did you do that to yourself?
Because if you are the government, then you did it to yourself.
You have no one to blame.
If you were forced to take those jabs that you didn't want, because you didn't want to lose your job, because you were in the government, in the military, in the health sector, but you didn't want to lose everything, and you didn't want it.
And just to hear, oops, not sorry, you'll never hear sorry, but oops, let's move on.
That didn't work.
Did you do that to yourself?
If you're the government, you did it to yourself.
You have no one but yourself to blame.
So this is the big illusion of democracy.
And of course, we're not the government.
But I'm telling you, people believe that we are.
I can't tell you how many times throughout my life I have heard, well, that's what you get.
This is what we voted for.
This is what the people want.
Even after, like Dr. Paul mentioned, all those shady elections, and the last one was shady, but there have been many before that.
People still think this is the peak.
This is the end of history.
There's nothing better than this.
Everything else is dictatorial tyranny.
And people do believe this stuff, no matter what happens to them.
This is not what the American founders set up at all.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider what they set up and where everything went wrong.
Hopefully in this show, we'll provide some more insights on getting to that point.
You know, one thing about voluntarism, and I think it's the rejection of voluntarism that gets people to look for another answer.
And they think democracy is such a noble thing.
They go toward pushing this whole principle of democracy.
But the one thing about voluntarism, you have your freedom, but you have freedom to make mistakes.
And they say, well, then who would feed me if I didn't work?
So it's one of those things that they do.
They always want a backup.
But in a voluntary society, the individual is responsible for their activity.
And that should go both ways.
If you're successful because you work hard and you haven't stolen anything, like they do in democracy, how they steal through the popular vote.
So they do this and the actions, they have to be responsible for their action.
If they do well, they should be rewarded, which means the automatic conclusion of that is you don't have an income tax.
This argument about taxation is such a farce because the principle is wrong.
They make the assumption that the government owns our income and then you can keep and spend it the way the government tells you to.
And if you do something wrong about it, you know, then and do something dumb and you have problems, then you also want the government to bail you out.
But that's something that it's easy, it's convenient.
And they're deceived into thinking that democracy is part of liberty and it's saving grace because it's based on a moral issue of helping the people.
And you would say, well, if it really did help the people, I guess our argument would be a little tougher.
I think I'd rather have liberty without worrying about that.
But if you do, then you have to see that good activity.
But good results are bad.
That is good.
But you know, the other thing about volunteerism is Lysander Spooner had a good division on how you divide this up.
He wants volunteerism.
And he wanted to answer the question, well, what can they do and what can't they do?
They won't do anything.
And he said, there are two kinds of activities.
One is that if you do dumb things like drink too much stuff, get drunk, or if you assuming you're not going to hurt anybody, that's your own business.
Your health, if you eat too much and all these problems, it's up to you, not the government.
And I think that this is a real big problem because if people depend on the government to do it, believe me, they will.
And I think there's always a back up there.
And it's used for the transfer of wealth.
And Lysander Spooner said, well, a vice is bad news for some people, but it's not up to the government to change your voices if there's no violence involved.
And that is the big difference.
And yet, that's all the do-gooders, the socialists and the pure democratic people are always construing somebody did that.
Oh, those persons are gouging.
So therefore, we have to have price controls on everybody.
You know, they play that up.
It's sort of disgusting.
And I think the transfer of wealth in a voluntary society is the way it should be.
Two people, two companies, two countries, both have agreements.
Instead of outsiders coming in and dictating what one side should do and the other, we do it with the countries.
We do it in economic.
We favor one group over another.
So we're regulators.
And it leads to more trouble.
And that's where we are today.
And one of the major reasons why we're going bankrupt.
Yeah, Dr. Paul, that's true.
One illusion that people live under is they believe that democracy is freedom.
That's simply because you cast a vote, that this is freedom.
And that's it.
Don't worry about everything else that's about to happen to you as a result of your vote.
And that's not what freedom is.
Freedom is the ability to morally do what you must in order to live.
And the state will not restrain you from doing that.
Or force you to do things that are immoral.
And the state has become the immoral entity in our lives.
They do everything that any normal human being cannot do.
And they do it legally.
And they love it and they brag about it.
And that's why all the most immoral people get into government because they can't do it on the outside here.
They can't do these things.
But once they get into government, they unleash.
And it's bad.
So this is not freedom.
Freedom has been redefined, you know, based on just the fact that you can vote.
And we have the biggest government in history.
You can't have both.
You can't have the biggest state in the history of the world and freedom at the same time.
I mean, that's just, you can't get more basic than that.
And we have more laws than they even can count that they even know, you know, just watching this video.
You may be breaking a law that's just not enforced, you know, but it's there.
So they have so many laws.
That's not what freedom is.
And the endless wars and the deaths.
But just that word, that one powerful word, because they've drilled it into people decade after decade after decade, democracy equals freedom.
And people have come to believe it, even though they've lost many, many, many freedoms.
You know, they talk about freedom, but they also pump it up as being equal.
You know, everybody's going to get a fair chance.
And of course, people say, yeah, I'm having trouble.
Somebody else has more than I have.
I need the government to help me out.
So they fall into that trap.
So they organize and become belongers to the PACT.
And then they look for getting the majority.
If you get 10 packs that can make up 51% of the vote, they can get whatever they want.
And at that time, the little guys get punished for this.
You know, if somebody's walking down the street, and we've seen this, unfortunately, in these recent years, how they're walking down, the mobs are down there, they break into the stores, they steal everything, and they're thugs.
And many places, or at least up to recent time, that was generally thought to be very bad and dumb.
And you used the police.
Now they don't even bother arresting them.
You're more liable to be arrested if you don't try to punish, if you let anybody go.
Even if you're doing it for your boss, somebody's robbing the store and the employee wants to help by stopping this person, he can get fired.
It is so out of contest.
It's so crazy.
And I think that's one of the things.
The other thing is that Bastiat helps me sort things out when you're trying to do what is voluntary and what is authoritarian.
He says that if most people, even though now they don't even think so, if people are a bunch of thugs and they're breaking into the stores, they've decided that's not so bad.
But basically, people do know that.
More people know that there's something wrong with that than when they break into stores and steal.
And that is the one thing.
But when the government does it, you know, they're thugs too.
Matter of fact, in some ways they're worse because they have this authenticity of doing good.
I've been elected with a democratic election.
And they throw out some crumbs to a few people, and then they take the big bucks and serve the military industrial complex or the pharmaceutical industries.
So they do this whole thing.
But it's all a charade.
And unfortunately, it's enticing.
And they're always wanting to solve problems that are there.
But they're usually problems they created or their allies have created.
But it gives them a chance to perpetuate the system.
And some of them like big government.
And it is a tool for making the government bigger.
Very good, Dr. Paul.
I will finish up with my closing thought.
Here's a question to think about.
Who are you actually voting for if you're voting?
Is it the person that you see?
Are you really voting for Kamala?
Or even Trump, for that matter?
Or is it all the people behind the scenes that are never up for election, yet they're always there?
Question To Think About 00:04:35
You don't see them.
You don't know them.
They know that you don't know them.
They know that you only see the person that you're voting for.
So these are things to think about.
Think of the agencies, Big Pharma and the FDA.
Think about what happened with COVID.
It's a revolving door.
They're part of these big companies, and then they're part of the government agencies that supposedly regulate these big companies, and we see how that works out.
And it's not just big pharma.
That's just the latest sting.
It's all of the industries.
That's why big corporations, they love this.
This is the ideal for them because they're a part of their companies one day, and then they're a part of the government the other, and then they could go back and forth.
It's called a revolving door.
Nobody's voting for any of this.
And it's unconstitutional.
These agencies should not exist.
They were created and they should not exist.
They should all be abolished, every one of them.
And then think about when the person is in power.
Trump wanted to do something, and the next day one of his underlings would come out.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
The president misspoke.
He wanted $5 billion for a wall.
And the government can waste $5 billion before I'm done this sentence.
And they wouldn't give him that $5 billion.
Yet Biden sends $200 billion to Ukraine.
Gone.
It's up in smoke.
Ukraine is destroyed.
So it just shows you where the real power is.
Is it the person you're voting for, the one that's trotted out in front of you and you're waving all your signs?
It doesn't look that way.
I mean, take a look at Biden's mental health.
Is he the one running the show?
Does anybody really believe that?
I don't think so.
Based on how they replaced him real quick with Kamala, I don't think so.
So again, we have to think about this because people think that it is freedom.
So these are key questions to think about.
Well, the one big item that they support across the board, Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals, is the whole system of the Federal Reserve and printing money because everybody wants something.
Some might want it to fight more wars.
Others wanted to have more welfare at home and do all these projects.
But that is easy to do.
They come together.
They either don't understand or they don't want to understand, but they never really talk about it.
We have to quit doing it because it would involve cutting back on these things that democracy has given us, taking care of everybody, doing all this financing, running up all these debts.
So when you get to that point, it's impossible.
I tell people, don't expect us to change our Congress and all of a sudden change the votes and we'll work our way out of it.
We have to work our way out of it, but it has to be philosophic.
And that means that people have to wake up and decide what kind of government they have.
Then they have to find out if they're going to keep voting for this pure democracy and how they'll take it and redistribute the property.
That's what they're doing.
And the worst organization for this redistribution of property is the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve, you know, and there's articles now appearing more than they used to be that, you know, inflation really helps the wealthy.
You know, they get it.
And look at it.
There's more trillionaires than ever before.
And it didn't come from hard work and labor.
It came by manipulation of interest rates and doing some other things that people make a lot of money.
But the big thing is if somebody makes a lot of money because they were providing a great service for the majority, this is the true democracy.
What if the people bought certain goods and services from a company and made the company very big and successful?
And they're as likely or more likely probably to be targeted by the politicians because they don't want to be embarrassed by the fact that you can honestly make that money and get rich.
It's always, you know, they only get rich because of the corruption.
There's a lot of that, but the system is corrupt.
And I think for us to solve this problem, we have to get around to understanding exactly what is going on.
Can't Have Better Generals 00:01:01
Otherwise, we'll just be floundering around and not change anything.
So it does take a major change.
And that, of course, is our goal here at the Liberty Report.
It's try to get people to think in the big picture and the big issues.
And those have to be changed.
You can't have better management at the Fed.
You can't have better generals managing the wars so that we don't lose war in Vietnam and Korea and Afghanistan.
Here we are still all over the Middle East.
No, that's a better general won't work.
What we need is more people understanding why we shouldn't be given any support to people who's.
One warning sign ought to be we're Democrats and we want to have a democratic process and be very fair to everybody.
Be suspicious when they do that.
So I think that we'll have to wake up when it's going to happen.
I just don't know.
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