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Nov. 8, 2023 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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White House: 'Many Thousands' Of Innocents Killed In Gaza...But Weapons To Israel Will Continue!

The White House admitted through National Security Council spokesman John Kirby that "many thousands" of innocent civilians have been killed in Gaza and that many more civilians would continue to be killed...but it refused to slow down weapons shipments or caution Israel over the death toll. Also today, only four House Republicans stand up for free speech in the censure of Rep. Rashida Tlaib.

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Civilians Amidst Weapons 00:10:50
Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today, Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you this morning.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you this morning?
Very well.
Thank you.
We'll try to make the world a better place to live.
Do our best.
Because sometimes I read these things that we go over, and it looks like there's a couple people against us trying to make the world look worse, not better.
It's easy to get better.
But we're still, you know, in spite of it all, we have to be optimistic and say if we do the right thing, things will be better.
See, there's always that qualifier that I have.
If you do the right thing, everything will work out all right.
But we have a few people that are very confused or they're doing it deliberately because it serves their interests, and we want to talk about foreign policy.
We've talked about foreign policy on a few occasions on this program.
But we're going to start off with all the inconsistencies about what's being interpreted and what's been reported, you know, in the Middle East.
Headline from Dave DeCamp, one of our favorites, anti-war.
His title, I find amazing what he packed into about two pages.
We feel good to have him on our side getting the information we're looking for.
But the headline caught my attention, and I know you got to look at it.
White House says Israel has killed, quote, many, many thousands of innocents.
I just didn't want to believe it.
Unfortunately, I do believe it.
But the big thing is, is the interpretation by our government, you would think if we had a sensible pro-American foreign policy, it would say, well, that means the previous president or somebody did this.
Maybe we should even be involved in this mess.
Something like that.
But no, so we're always wanting to sort out what is the policy.
If we're going to criticize the policy, we have to know what it is.
And I would say that Dave has described it pretty well just by describing who supports what.
But when you look at it, he describes the chaos in it.
But to me, the catching phrase in this is how he explains one person in the administration saying, and then somebody else, they said something different.
And then the reporters say something different, and you have all the faction.
But I want to just start off with one of the first things he said, and we'll talk about this a little bit more.
It says the White House acknowledged on Monday that U.S.-backed Israelis onslaught of Gaza had killed many, many thousands of people.
And Biden administration continues, and this is the conclusion, and Biden's administration continues unconditional support for Israel's war.
So where do we stand on this?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, it's an interesting admission.
Let's put on that first quote, Clint, because that's what we're talking about here.
White House says Israel has killed, quote, many, many thousands of innocents, end quote.
That's an incredible admission that the, I think it was spokesman John Kirby made.
And then here's what he says.
The comments were made by White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby, who previously told reporters to expect that Israel will continue to kill innocent civilians.
So they've killed many thousands of innocent civilians, and they're going to kill thousands more.
So just get used to it is basically, just put that up for one more second, is basically what Kirby is saying.
And now this is Gaza's health ministry, so it's a government source.
All government sources should be suspect on all sides.
But Gaza's health ministry said on Tuesday that at least 10,328 Palestinians have been killed, including 4,237 children.
Thousands more are missing and presumed to be under the rubble, buried under rubble for days and weeks.
This seems to be way out of proportion to war going on.
Innocents die and children get in the crossfire.
But this number is so high.
It's almost like, well, we have to stop the multiplying of people who are going to come and hurt us.
And it's sort of a strategy that sort of is sickening.
But the Biden administration has cast doubt on the numbers that are put out there.
And like you said, there's reason to doubt.
Why should we have to believe them?
And Pentagon spokesman General Ryder has also acknowledged that thousands of civilians have been killed.
You know, because, matter of fact, the way the language is, on both sides, you know, there's factions on both sides that they're pretty tough and strong that, you know, this is not just target practice.
I mean, we have to wipe them out.
And as if that's going to solve the problem.
But that's a terrible philosophy to have.
But here we're standing there.
We're trying to figure out what's going on.
And we might be a very, very influence in the whole mess, help to create it.
Our weapons, our money.
And yet right now we'll probably talk about why they just sort of thumb their nose at us, even though the United States is doing all this mischief and providing the weapons and all, but they won't take any orders.
And I think that if you're going to do it, the order should change.
You know, like, if you won't do what we tell you, you know, we might just cut off your aid.
Well, why did we ever start it?
You know, that's my beef.
Yeah.
Well, here's just an example of the absolute hypocrisy of the U.S. government, of the Biden administration.
I'm sure he's joined by most Republicans on this.
This is from the same article.
Despite the grim death toll, the U.S. still refuses to place any limits on Israel's use of American weapons.
When asked on Tuesday about civilian casualties, Pentagon spokeswoman said, we don't put conditions on weapons we're sending or that Israel is using.
So can you imagine?
I mean, this makes you an accomplice to the crime.
If killing innocent children is a crime, then we're accomplices.
It would be like if you went on a killing spree and killed about 20 people and they said, here, have some more guns.
Want some more guns.
Don't you know you should call us first?
We'll straighten out because we're unified on protecting America.
And we will certainly make sure that if our troops are getting into trouble and killing the wrong people, we're going to start bringing them home.
Oh, you're un-American.
You're not serious.
That is the whole problem.
And the administration also refusing to disclose what weapons are going.
It's sending to Israel.
Kirby said through his press briefing that the U.S. shipping equipment to Israel on a daily basis in secret.
The American people aren't exactly notified.
You know, where's my money going?
Except every day we qualify this to a degree, more and more people are waking up.
There's a big conflict in support in this country in the Middle East.
And really that debate was going on pretty strongly in the last six months over Ukraine.
But that war is winding down.
And yet there was, you know, the people finally got tired of it.
The members of Congress were starting to hear, why are you spending this money over there?
Especially with the horrible problems that we've created on our own borders.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, exactly.
But here's the thing, though.
You know, the Russia-Ukraine war, which you just mentioned, it's been going on for almost two years now.
Less civilians have been killed in that war, Ukrainian civilians by Russia.
Less have been killed in two years than have been killed in one month in Gaza.
Yet, you heard Biden and all of his minions blink and talking about Putin is committing war crimes, Putin is committing a massacre, Putin is committing a genocide, where it took two years for them to kill as many innocent civilians as were killed in one month.
And now, Black Max Blumenthal, who we both like, he spoke at our conference, very brave, great guy.
I should have put the clip up, but I didn't.
But he went over to the State Department, I think it was yesterday, and he sat down for the briefing, and he asked a question because he's from the gray zone, he's a journalist, and he said, he said, hey, why are you, you accuse the nations of genocide, which have killed far less than Israel kills Gaza in a month.
Like, how do you square this?
Why don't you say that it's a genocide if you do it for places like Russia?
And of course, its spokesman has barfed up a word salad that nobody understood as they usually do.
But it's pretty clear to most people that the scale of killing is outrageous.
And in fact, I found this clip.
If you do the next clip, this chart I didn't show it to you, I forgot to show it to you, but I think it speaks for itself.
These are the deaths of children in conflict zones.
And it's children killed per day.
So on the right, the Iraq war, it was 0.6.
Ukraine is 0.7.
Yemen 1.5.
Afghanistan, 2.
Syria, 3.
Gaza, 136 children killed per day.
And this is a source, is UNICEF.
So you're seeing the scale of death of children, astronomical, but the State Department says we can't call it anything other than, you know, whatever.
And the Pentagon says, well, let's send more weapons.
So it's a disaster.
It sounds like it could be their policy.
I mean, there's war going on, like I mentioned, and kids will get killed and all this.
But that is so much bigger than in all the other places where, yes, the kids are going to get killed as well.
But part of the problem is it seems to be difficult to get the right information and have the good journals like Blumenthal and others.
But the reporting, you know, and you mentioned that, they reported about why was it reported differently for Russia than for Israel or the Palestinians for that matter, whoever is committing the violence.
So I think that, you know, it's so, you know, we think we're defending one side or opposing the other side and saying, well, Russia didn't do anything here.
But I see it as very easy to say that if you believe that we should not be involved, that's the basic problem.
False Narratives and Censorship 00:05:56
All of a sudden, you look at the whole world differently.
You say, well, you know, neither side is pure, and neither side is trying to institute the Bill of Rights, you know, this sort of thing.
So that, I think, is the big problem.
And then we get into the factions, the money, and the corruption in governments and the lying ineptness of government.
And you end up with these crazy wars.
And there's so many things that come of, whether it's domestic, social, religious, or any kind of rules the government makes.
It usually, sometimes deliberate, but sometimes just because it's unworkable.
Me, I always go back to monetary policy.
This pretense that a couple people can get together.
Well, we know today the interest rates ought to go up 0.12%.
They brainwash themselves as well.
They fit into the category of people who brainwash for a precise purpose.
Well, the second story we want to cover today is, I think, also outrageous.
And this is from Politico.
Put that next one up.
House moves to censure Talaib over Israel rhetoric.
So the U.S. House, of course, they can't get off the rear ends and pass the appropriations bills and keep things running because they're too busy spending hours on the floor yelling at this representative from Michigan, I believe.
Go to the next one.
This is a GOP measure.
The House late Tuesday, so late yesterday passed a GOP measure to formally reprimand Representative Nershiba Rashida Talaib over her outspoken criticism of Israel.
Representator Rich McCormick, Republican of Georgia, had moved to censure Talaib for what he called, quote, promoting false narratives.
And this reminds me a lot of what was happening during COVID, if you remember.
You were kicked off of YouTube for promoting false narratives about Ivermectin, false narratives about masks.
So this is ironically the same Republicans who probably were on our side on this, but they happen to not like this woman.
I don't know much about her.
My guess is that you and I would probably agree with maybe 0.001% of her political views.
However, voting to censure her, to reprimand her for saying things that she believes to be true, I think it's outrageous.
You know, we have a First Amendment, and most people will recognize it, but they get confused on how property can limit saying dumb things.
You don't have a right to go into a church and take over or write about free speech.
That would be idiotic.
So there's a First Amendment principle there.
But we talk a lot about speech.
Now, they've given some special coverage for people in Congress, and some argue against it, some argue and understand it, but that's the way it's been.
If I had gone to the floor and made a couple charges and said, A, B, C, the way I understand that, they can't sue me.
They can't arrest me.
They can't do anything.
So it's almost a special privilege for saying what you want, unless they don't like what you're saying.
So they have this, and I think it fits into the stuff that freedom of speech now is enforced with a collusion of big business and social media.
And they're able to control speech and punish you because they have the power and a tool of economic policy.
And they can really ruin people.
So when they cancel you, some people, unfortunately, got canceled and never recovered.
We hear about the big cases.
I bet there's been a lot of people from hospital staffs and, you know, even before any of this whole thing started, I remember people getting into trouble because that was one of the questions that they were starting to ask in the 60s.
What's your position on abortion?
Because they were doing them, and they said, would you participate?
And they could lose their job if you said no.
But now it's much different and much bigger and much more economic.
And it has to do with speaking.
So it's rather ironic for me to look at this and say, you know, Talibwais has to be punished, punished for this.
But we had some, we looked up the people who supported what we think is the right position.
And you shouldn't be bothered by this.
I mean, let somebody else get up and say something, but this whole thing of censor, As if they were godlike and they knew the moral high ground.
We're in a position where we can censor people for saying immoral things, but that's what they think they are.
But we'll mention the four names that voted against it.
And we know, just like you said originally, there's probably not many things we'd agree with that this woman offers.
But Ken Buck, I've heard that name, and I think of him as a good person.
I don't know John Duarte of California, but he voted right.
And we've heard of this guy, Thomas Massey.
His name keeps popping up.
So we expected.
But I was very pleased and not too totally surprised at Tom Clintock of California.
He deserves to be congratulated from this because he is very, very good on his votes, but he's also, you know, doesn't vote 100% with Thomas.
But he's a good person.
And I'm always very pleased with that because I made an effort in a token way to help him to get into Congress.
You know, that was a nice surprise.
So those were the four Republicans who voted no.
And my guess is certainly with Massey, it was a free speech issue.
But here's, you mentioned the word irony.
The biggest irony, now I did a dive into the bill.
Why Netanyahu Failed 00:11:22
It's not that long of a resolution.
I did a dive into it.
And the first thing that struck me, the big irony is, and if you put on that next clip, it's HRES 845.
Easy to look up, easy to read.
Go forward, there we go.
HRES 845, censuring Representative Rashida Taleb for promoting false narratives.
This entire resolution, Dr. Paul, promotes false narratives.
That's the irony.
Go to the next one.
I'm just going to go to a few of the clauses because every single one of them you could point out.
But here's just the first one, okay?
Now, this is not to defend anything.
It's just to say that this bill itself does what it accuses her of doing.
So whereas Representative Rashida Taleb, within 24 hours of the October 7th, barbaric attack on Jewish citizens of the state of Israel, representing the deadliest days of Jews since the Holocaust, defended the brutal rapes, murders, beheadings, and kidnappings of Americans, defended the beheadings of Israelis by Hamas.
That's interesting because that beheadings, I underline, and it's a distasteful thing, Dr. Paul, but it's worth digging into.
Go to the next one.
Because the beheadings was a narrative that was put out right away.
Here's President Biden, U.S. President Biden, on brutal terror attack by Hamas on Israeli people.
I have confirmed terrorists beheading children.
So they want to put it out there that Hamas is beheading children.
Go to the next one.
It was immediately clarified by the White House saying Biden did not actually see confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children as he claimed.
So the narratives are starting to fall apart.
He didn't see anything.
Netanyahu, who told him this, keep going further.
And here's a major Turkish news network.
They went on the ground and interviewed.
The Israeli army says it does not have confirmation about allegations that Hamas beheaded babies.
Go on.
This is go to the next one, please.
Yeah, this is the Andalou News Service.
When Andalu contacted the Israeli Army spokesperson unit over the phone and asked about the allegations, he said, we have seen the news, but we do not have any details or confirmation.
Now, that was the unit that was there.
And I don't want to belabor the point, but I just want to point out that the clause itself was putting forward a false narrative about beheadings.
And it's horrific, and it got people's attention quickly, but it turns out it wasn't true.
Yet still they added the false narrative in here.
Does that remind you about the lies told about the Iraqi war?
Yeah, that's right.
And Gaddafi with the rape pills and this and that.
You know, there has been some other expression dealing with this and who's the bad people and who's doing the most wicked things.
And that happens to be a more democratic way of doing it and not necessarily bad if it's done peacefully.
And that's the demonstrations.
And that's what just amazes me what's going on because some of it can get pretty nasty, you know, demonstration and it's reversed.
You know, they do it almost with the whole purpose is to put Israel in a bad light.
That's why we need a little bit of balance, a little bit of truth telling.
But the public now is, I'm amazed at the size of these demonstrations.
And that's a mixed bag.
Some are being demonstrated for different reasons.
But it also means that they're not buying into this, what our government is telling us and these resolutions.
She gets censored.
Yeah.
Well, here's a couple more clauses.
And then you could go through.
I think literally each one you could go through and find a false narrative.
But I just want to point out a couple more with your indulgence, Dr. Paul.
Here's the next one.
Now, this is the Bill of Particulars.
This is why she needs to be smacked down.
Representative Tlaib's October 8th statement claimed that Hamas's October 7th attack on the Jewish people was partly attributable to United States security aid provided to Israel.
And that is objectively something that you can have a debate on.
This is not something that you would immediately say it's a false narrative.
Non-interventionists like ourselves would say, because we are providing support, because we are in the middle of it, because we're backstopping Israel, that's why these terrible things keep happening to Israel.
That's a legitimate claim to make.
It doesn't mean she loves the fact that they were killed.
It's legitimate.
And let me just do one more.
Because, just do that last one.
Again, you could go through every one.
Here's another whereas clause.
Whereas on October 18th, Representative Tlaib continued to annoyingly spread the false narrative that Israel intentionally bombed the Al-Ali Arab Hospital on October 17th after U.S. intelligence, Israeli intelligence, and President Biden assessed that Israel did not cause the explosion.
That is still completely open for debate.
That is not proven that they didn't do it.
And the whole idea that, well, because U.S. intelligence and Israeli intelligence says that they didn't do it, well, we should believe it.
Yeah, they lie all the time.
Wasn't there a president once when there were these debates on right and wrong, and the president says, I am the decider.
But right now, this is what we're talking about.
Who is the decider on this?
And who is the one that orchestrates the bias?
And why do people just march along?
I would think maybe somebody, weren't there some just president votes?
I think there might have been a couple.
A couple, yeah.
But that sometimes, and I've used it on a few occasions, but it's really not a very, I mean, you're in a position where you have to take a position, you should, but there are times when you think this is so bad that in order to sort it all out, you're just doing something you shouldn't be doing.
Well, it was a little nostalgic for me because that's what my job with you for 12 years is looking at a bill and picking out the contradictions and trying to help you when you go to the floor.
I mean, I'm not often that nostalgic about being there with all those people, but I kind of thought we would have had fun with this.
You know, you were a new at one time on there, and I thought, he needs an easy job to find the contrast.
Find the bad things.
That's fun.
I'll be able to do that.
Yeah, exactly.
I think you could have had a great time on the floor with this, you know, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the whole thing.
Well, I'm going to go to the next one because we talked about the vote, and I think McClintock, good for him.
Massey is going to take some hits.
He's taken some tough votes this past month, and everyone should support Thomas Massey.
He's really the last hope we have in the House.
But let's move on because we have one more, and it's a related topic again, and it's about Netanyahu.
Go to the next one if you can.
And this is interesting because one of the things that fascinates me is the very, very strong debate that they have within Israel about what happened on October 7th and about politics.
You know, it's presented to us, and certainly in the mainstream media in the U.S., in a single way, you have to accept the narrative as it's given to you.
But in fact, in Israel, there's a very, very broad debate.
And this is from Politico Europe.
A broken Netanyahu is miscalculating over Gaza.
Former Israeli PM says.
And this is, you remember old Ehud Barak, who was a, I think it was a tanker in, he's a military guy.
Go to the next one really quick.
So, no, I'm sorry, Ehud Omert.
I'm sorry.
What is I think?
Yeah, sorry.
Anyway, so he said that Benjamin Netanyahu has been destroyed emotionally by this massive failure on national security and is now miscalculating by preparing to take overall control of Gaza.
So Ehud Omert is saying that Netanyahu is really basically flipped out and he's making all the wrong moves.
And there is a consensus in Israel that that's what's happening.
Yeah.
But there are so many parts that we try to understand and bring together because, you know, it's their policy and they invite some problems.
But you were earlier on mentioned the fact, well, are we going to mention maybe the United States is involved in these discrepancies?
And then what's the position been for years with Israel?
And how do they get support?
I mean, the money, I think money counts, you know, and when you get people dependent, that's why I think we have such problems on our borders.
I think if you subsidize something, you get more of it.
And we get more problems by subsidizing, you know, illegal immigration.
The rewards you get, if you can sneak into this country and we'll open up the gates.
Sort of reminds me of opening up the gates so you go on in, have fun in the capital, then we're going to arrest you.
Yeah, exactly.
No kidding.
But there's a lot of things that are behind the scenes that happen.
You know, the money, the military-industrial complex, religious beliefs.
It's just very complex.
That's why it should be kept more simple.
It doesn't have to be this way.
You don't have to initiate the, you know, if people would accept just one rule, one moral standard, and that is you have no right to interfere in other people's lives or in their property.
But that just is beyond them.
Everybody wants an angle, and then they are propagandized, and they have to be placed in fear.
You have to scare them to death, and the end of the world's coming if you don't support the troops.
And that's it's worked.
It's worked for centuries.
And I'd like to sort of say, try something new.
Well, it is fascinating in Israel that there is a strong debate.
And it's also alarming that the U.S. only supports one side, only the most extreme side of Netanyahu, because Olmert makes some good points.
Put that one back up if you can, because he makes some very good points that I think we probably would agree with if we were in the Israeli debate, which we're not, so it's not our business.
But what he said, he was interviewed by Politico, he said, Netanyahu's in a state of nervous breakdown as he sought to avoid being overthrown for the failing to safeguard the national security, which is a good point.
This meant Israel was now steering off course, he went on, and he insisted that the priority should be to negotiate an end game with the international community involving a return to talks on the formation of a Palestinian state rather than turning back the clock to full military oversight of Gaza.
And go to the next one really quick because he has a point that is being debated there.
It's not in Israel's interest to oversee the security of Gaza, he said.
It's in our interest to be able to defend ourselves in a different way than we did before the October 7th attack.
So what Omert is stressing is the failure of Netanyahu to protect the people on the 7th.
And now the overreaction, he's saying, is because he's gone basically psychic.
There's all kinds of things that motivate people to play tricks on us, lie to us, misunderstanding, and all the pressures that happen.
And it's not one-sided.
Defending Against Manipulation 00:02:41
I mean, if you look at the world, especially since World War II, how much influence have we had?
How much power have we?
How much money have we had?
How much benefits did we get from that power?
And how much benefits have we had with the reserve currency?
And all of a sudden, we're a player.
We're a player.
But that, of course, is changing.
But even the way we do our military forces is important, too, because here's an article, Zero Hedge reported from Free Bacon.
I thought it was crazy.
And I'm going to read this because it's so bad.
It's not exactly part of this other than the fact that it's just stupid.
It says, California is helping prison inmates cope with their stints, having forked over more than $4 million of taxpayers fund on surgical sex changes and cosmetic gender affirming enhancement.
Can you think of anything weirder than that?
For 157 inmates, maybe somebody would commit a crime, just get in there and get a free job done.
Who knows?
But including, this can't be true.
But one person, no, four people who want a sex change and says, hurry up.
I'm on death row.
The absurdities of interventionism per se.
And it's the meddling in other people's lives and pretending they know what is true and foreign policy is like that.
People get censored because we know what truth is.
What a silly, silly way to run a world.
You know, that reminds me of the late, great Jim Trafficant.
You know, he would have done that on the floor and he would have said, beat me up.
Oh, yes, he was a great guy.
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Government Protection vs. Control 00:01:33
Because it's not an issue because these wars are going on in Ukraine and the Middle East.
It's an issue that's been around and knowledgeable and in writing maybe four, five, six thousand years of dealing with the issue of right and wrong.
But I want to close with Another silly thing, and sometimes who was it that had a term that he used the stupid party?
There was somebody that this, and they were referring to Republicans.
I can't believe that.
But here on Zero Hedge, unenforced air, right-wing critics slam RNC for picking NBC to host tonight's GOP debate.
And they think, oh, well, they'll be fair.
You know, this is the whole thing.
I don't think that the time.
But the whole thing is, I think when I mentioned this to you, you said, what they're prisoning, nobody's going to watch them anyway.
They'll probably be listening for Trump, or somebody will probably be pestering Trump.
What are you going to do when you're in prison?
You know, that kind of stuff.
So I wished he could only be entertaining, but it's really very threatening to people.
And it undermines confidence.
There should be confidence in government, but government should be there to protect our freedom, not to run our lives, not to run the economy, and not to police the world.
It's not very complicated.
And the proof is that if you look at history, that if you want peace and prosperity, that's exactly what you would promote.
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