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Oct. 12, 2023 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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Washington Uniparty Plans MASSIVE Giveaway To Ukraine, Israel, AND Taiwan!

How does Washington deal with sagging Republican support for more money to Ukraine? Put Ukraine aid together with Israel aid! And slap a few billion for Taiwan while you're at it! It's only our money. Also today: US interventionism fueled the bloody mess in the Middle East. But for the neocons only more interventionism can solve it.

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Suspicious Foreign Aid Delusions 00:14:59
Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today, Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fine.
You're back in the saddle.
I was hiding.
I was playing a hookie for a couple days.
Maybe you were gambling in Vegas.
No, I was just gambling with life.
But no major problems, and I am glad to be back.
And that means I have to have enough to say for the two days I missed, or can we just do our today's program?
Since I hear you took good care of the program yesterday and the day before, so we're okay.
Your fans missed you.
But we didn't have a whole lot of need to get a lot of different subjects.
You know, the one big thing that's been going on, but I've gotten a little tired of it, and that's who's going to be the next speaker.
And, you know, the big picture on the long term, I don't even think the parties make a whole lot of difference.
But you can't say no difference because there are some.
But when it comes to speakers, too, you know, they're down to two people now whittling down, and they had trouble picking the first one, and it's not working out well.
And it's personal, to me, all that mess is personalities as well as the fact that there's a political, moral, financial bankruptcy that they can't sort out all the problems.
Anyway, they're in the midst of it.
I guess we're not going to know who's the next speaker going to be.
They never called.
I thought you put a word on the bottom.
I did my best.
I mean, I got a lot of people on Twitter calling for you to be here.
Okay, so we'll have to wait and see if we can find some good things to say about them because we wouldn't want to pick on them.
But anyway, that is an issue, but we're not going to talk too much about that.
But we want to talk some and get an update on what's going on with the war and the Middle Eastern war.
We've been accustomed to talking a lot about that.
Think about when you started in Washington.
We spent a lot of time on trying our best to prevent some of the killing that went on, but the killing continued.
And they're back at it again.
And one of the big points we've made over the years is the fact that the founders tried to protect us against constant wars.
And you can't say they did a lousy job, but you can say that the people that we put into Congress have done a lousy job because even without any dictate to them, just reading the Constitution, there should have been a lot less war.
But we're back at it again, trying to.
But we've been doing this, the one thing in Ukraine.
We've been trying to argue the case against that nonsense since the coup in 2014.
But now the coup is spreading, you know, and who knows?
It's a mess now, tragically, and a lot of people are dying.
But sorting out the truth about what's really going on in Israel and Gaza, it's not going to be easy.
You think, oh, well, there's the report that so many of these people die, so many people here to die.
Tomorrow there will be more and all this.
So it really is more difficult when you get into almost any foreign policy, but when you get into war and a lot of killing, there's a lot of blaming going on.
And one thing I sense, the frustration of what our government is facing or the Hawks are facing is they're getting into two or three or four areas of the world that's getting to be hot.
But the two right now is Ukraine.
And, of course, what they're going to do about in the Middle East.
But this is, they're all after money.
And now, you know, Zelensky is evidently a little worried, maybe, because the war has not been won yet.
Maybe some people didn't really want to win it.
And he's not politic and he's really great in politics.
He came here, he's pretty bold to try to get more and more money.
But now he calls up, and I think he invited himself to go meet with Netanyahu.
So what's going on there, we'll find out.
But one thing I know, there's a bit of frustration there, but there's not a willing desire to really simplify it and say, well, it's all the Palestinians' fault.
If you just kill them all, the world will be a safe place to live.
And boy, that is an overstatement.
Yeah, it is, I have to say, very suspicious because right as public opinion in the U.S. turns very sharply against more money for Ukraine, as the money is running out, as we spend $100 and some billion dollars, just as that is going, just as the counteroffensive has been a complete dud.
And even the New York Times is saying, actually, Russia gained more ground than Ukraine did this year despite the counteroffensive.
Just as this all happens, now here's a brand new shiny war.
It could go on a long time.
We need to spend more money on it.
And of course, what does the U.S. do?
Well, they keep doing that which caused the problems in the first place, which is funding one side, getting involved.
Turn on this first clip because this is from anti-war.com.
They've got a problem though, Dr. Paul, because some Republicans are not interested in more money for Ukraine, but all Republicans are interested in more money for Israel.
So what do they do?
They're going to make a big, huge package.
God knows how much is going to be in it.
White House plans to request military aid for Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan.
We must be made of money, Dr. Paul.
They're going to put the three of them together in a big bill.
No Republican's going to vote against aid to Israel, especially considering what's happened this last week.
I mean, we must be unbelievably rich.
It must be that or unbelievably dumb.
You know, I tell you, you know, delusions are very contagious, and there's history of throughout our history, so many delusional things that have gone on.
One is the money issue, per se, the whole idea that all you have to do is print money and have no restraints.
That's a delusion.
But also this stuff, it isn't just the American people that want to believe it and trust and all that as long as they can get maybe a bonus from the government and think it's helping out or something.
They're going to be pleased.
But the whole world is delusional on it.
They're delusional about the foreign policy.
And they're delusional that just like an American person here, if they're lobbying for welfare here, they go, oh, I feel better.
I think I'm going to get a boost next month.
But what about these foreign countries?
It's instantaneous.
Immediate desire to have it.
And they have pretty serious beliefs that this is going to be a big deal and get the money and it's all going to work.
But then again, there's a lot of strategy.
And I think the strategy you point out is very true is because, you know, they're running out of money.
It's more difficult to carry out things.
And if they're having trouble paying for the Ukraine war, how are we going to do it?
Because the people who want that war, they are really dedicated.
They're delusional as far as I'm concerned, you know, in a practical sense of what good are they doing to us.
But anyway, they're going to go and the White House plans to request military aid for Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan.
Together, yeah.
Well, I can see why the Israelis are a little cheesed off.
I mean, for decades, they've been the biggest recipient of U.S. largesse.
Now, all of a sudden, here comes this new kid on the block, Ukraine.
Ukraine is getting orders of magnitude more money than Israel is getting.
So you can see why they might be irritated.
Go to the next clip because here is from the anti-war piece.
This explains the strategy of putting the three together.
The Washington Post force reported on Monday that the White House planned to link aid for Ukraine and Israel in an effort to, quote, jam the far right, referring to House Republicans who are against the proxy war in Ukraine, but are staunch Israel supporters.
Many Republicans who oppose funding for Ukraine do favor sending weapons to Taiwan, which began receiving unprecedented military aid from the U.S. this year.
So basically, goodies for everyone, a toy in everyone's stocking.
And what about us?
You know, to me, this points out such a simple economic lesson.
If we had sound money, they wouldn't have money, you know, because they'd have to tax people, and that wouldn't be tolerable.
But since 1971, the world and our government has been conditioned, and it's amazing how long they've been able to get away with this.
So there's no restraint.
But if we had sound money, you would not have these deficits.
You would not have these wars, and people would have to do something differently, and the middle class would not be in trouble because they're the ones who suffer the most.
And that's really only starting.
You know, the inflation of prices is still there, and the people are hurting.
I think the jobs numbers are fictitious.
And yet they do it.
All they have to do is sort of like a shot.
You just get a shot of heroin or addicted.
Oh, we'll feel better today.
And tomorrow, oh, where are we going to go for next week's lobbying?
Zelensky has it down.
He probably even flies on government money.
I bet he's not even collecting points with United.
But he's flying all around the world looking for more money.
Yeah, well, I'm afraid that gravy train is over.
Look up, and this is what you mentioned when your opening statement.
If you put on that next clip, this is from Axios.
This is called Someone Who's All of a Sudden Out of the Limelight and Misses.
This is an actor.
You know, this is like an aging actor.
They're not getting any good parts anymore, and they're feeling jealous about the young starlet who's in the limelight.
Well, in this case, Netanyahu is hardly a young starlet, but in the eyes of many in America, he is.
Scoop Zelensky asked to visit Israel in show of solidarity.
I would probably exchange solidarity for desperation.
One of the things that's interesting, and I didn't, I should have made a clip of it, but John Kirby, who's a spokesman for Sullivan and the National Security Council, he had an extraordinary briefing yesterday where he said the following.
He said funding for Ukraine is, quote, coming near to the end of the rope and is, quote, not going to be indefinite.
He has laid it out there.
This is an extraordinary quote that hasn't been reported enough, but he's saying, look, it's getting to be the end of the line, guys.
And so Zelensky's over there trying to somehow.
He started out by trying to say, after the Hamas attacks happened over the weekend, well, this was all because of Russia.
And Israel said, no, that's not true.
The U.S. said, no, come on, that's not true.
So no one is buying on to it.
He's desperate to get that attention that he had, but it's not there.
Yeah, I think it must be more than just the money.
That's part of it.
But the whole thing is, they're going to spend the money somewhere else.
It's sort of politics.
And I think there's been a diminishing of the support for Zelensky in that war.
And of course, the money is out in front of it.
The money should have been the thing to prevent it from happening.
But it seems so far that the lack of money isn't the final say.
There's other things going on there.
And it may be that they believe the American people will tolerate this a little bit more if we have to go to the aid of Israel.
Yeah.
Well, no actor likes to know that his parts are no longer out there.
Well, the next topic we're going to cover is going to be a tough topic for a lot of people, but it's something that has to be dealt with.
And this is a piece by Jonathan Cook, writing on anti-war.com.
Jonathan Cook, of course, is a very, very experienced journalist, award-winning journalist who writes a lot about the Middle East.
He's got several books out.
But he has a piece out called The Blood of Gaza is on the West's hands as much as Israel.
And he's talking about the bloodiest hand in the current slaughter of Palestinians and Israelis belongs not to Hamas or the Netanyahu government, but to the West.
And a lot of people aren't going to want to hear that, but he makes a very good case that he says, yes, Palestinian fighters carried out a brutal attack at the weekend on Israeli settlements on the edge of the Gaza Strip.
But this attack did not emerge from nowhere without warning.
It was not unprovoked, as Israel would like us to believe.
And he goes on, if you go for the next point.
And no one likes this.
Remember, they said over and over about Russia and Ukraine.
It was totally unprovoked.
Putin got up one morning and decided to attack.
And they say, oh, well, you're justifying it.
No, we want to understand the motives.
And we talk about this all the time.
You can actually leave that up if you don't mind.
We want to understand the motives because it's important.
Can it be prevented?
Can it be ameliorated?
So here's what Cook writes.
He said, Western capitals know exactly how much the Palestinians of Gaza have been provoked because those same governments have been complicit for decades in supporting Israel as it ethnically cleansed Palestinians from their homeland and imprisoned the remnants of the population in ghettos inside historic Palestine.
For the past 16 years, Western backing for Israel has not wavered, even as Israel has turned the coastal enclave of Gaza from the world's largest open-air prison into a gruesome torture chamber where Palestinians are experimented on.
Their food and power have been rations, essentials of life denied to them, their access to drinkable water slowly removed, their hospitals prevented from receiving medical supplies and equipment.
And again, none of this justifies in any way an attack on Israeli civilians.
But it's merely a matter of looking how U.S. and Western foreign policy toward Israel, which is unlimited money, no criticism whatsoever, how that has led to the situation.
Lies and Consequences 00:03:07
You know, this analogy between some of the lies told now.
No, they aren't proven lies, but they're very suspicious of the information we're getting about the children.
Oh, yeah.
And, of course, the one thing that did turn out to be a lie was that about the incubators leading up to the Iraq war.
Saddam Hussein was taking all the incubators away and the children were dying, all this.
And then it turned out that that wasn't quite true at all.
So it's amazing that they come back with these very similar stories.
And it's almost when they control incessantly, and then if it does involve special countries that don't qualify for any criticism, you can't say anything.
You can't even drag them back.
Just be open-minded.
Ask a question.
See if it's true.
So what they say, well, let's get some evidence.
There's been a little bit of backing off, you know, in the news, but Israel refused, but Israel refused to investigate the veracity of claims of mass beheadings.
I mean, why can't they, you know, it seems almost like some of the dumb arguments and campaigning and counting votes, people say, you can't do that, you can't do that.
But who's telling the truth?
If you count the votes, what's wrong with it?
Why shouldn't you count them?
This is the sort of thing, if it's going on, we should know about it.
But their reason was that that would be an insult to the dead.
Well, atrocity propaganda plays a key role in all these things because it causes people to be emotional.
When you're emotional, you do things, you say crazy things like Nikki Haley, who's crazy all the time, just finish them, take them out, turn them into glass.
Really kind of genocidal, Holocaustic language.
But the response would be, if you point out these absolute hyperboles and out-and-out lies, the German tourist who they say was brutally murdered, she turns out to be alive.
The babies with their heads cut off, horrible, horrible.
Oh, no, no, they were just shot.
Well, that's bad enough.
But they want it to sound worse because it justifies what Israel is about to do.
And they say, well, you just hate Israel if you point this out.
In fact, I would say that the people who continue to make Israel vulnerable by keeping up this untenable situation, they're the ones that hate Israel.
We want the problem solved so they can both live in peace.
You know, it's unusual, but I think Biden had to backtrack on what he said.
That to me is, it must have been really blatant that they had evidence of what they were saying just wasn't true.
What a tragedy.
Well, finishing up on Jonathan Cook, he obviously is very savvy on U.S. politics and domestic situation, because put on this next clip, he's talking about, because we talked about this earlier, how Ukraine is fading, they need another war.
Cook writes, President Joe Biden has declared approvingly that a long war is ahead between Israel and Hamas.
Third Party Interference 00:13:06
Washington seems to relish long wars, which always prove a boon to its arms industries and a distraction from domestic troubles.
I don't think anyone believes that Biden, who has not had a very good relationship with Netanyahu or Israel, that Biden is going to benefit politically by all of a sudden coming forward as the savior of Israel, unlimited money, anything you want.
You know, to understand the whole thing, I think that history has to be looked at, even though I was told during the campaign, don't mess around and bother us about history.
But if you want to do history, it's really, unfortunately, very fascinating even to read about 1917, 1918, and what happened in 1948 and all the things that went on with the Palestinians and Israel.
And my theory is that the more that difficult problems are solved, you know, remotely, either a country far away or a country that comes in and takes over.
And what happened after World War I and World War II, it was the League of Nations first, then the United Nations come in, the less likely it'll be artificial and it will be different things other than a fair thing.
And the rule that I have and others have is both sides have to be in agreement.
But to have a third party come in and put this in, just guess what?
One side usually gets a better deal because it's politicized and then we end up with this.
And that is unstable, has been from the very beginning.
And right now, the propagandists have sort of won the fight because all you have to say, what if your position is, don't you think the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves if there's been anybody break the law?
Well, that isn't, you're not even allowed to bring that up anymore because that itself sells it.
Oh, we don't want to talk to you.
And that's why the closer to home, no matter what we do, economically, religiously, or socially, if both sides agree, you don't end up with this kind of stuff and both sides didn't agree.
They were barely identifiable, you know, back in 1917 when the ultimate strategy was designed there at that time.
Well, you make a great point, though, about a third party coming in, because that's U.S. diplomacy.
We jump in like a bull in a china shop and say, you will accept this, and that's how it is.
Or else.
Or else.
And that's been what's happened.
Well, you can only suppress it for so long and it comes through.
But I wanted to put out, just sort of on that same theme, a juxtaposition of three tweets, because I think it says everything you need to know about the Western view toward this area.
Now, this is Ursula von der Leyen, who's the president of the European Commission.
Now, she put out a tweet back in October of 22, and she said, Russia's attacks on civilian infrastructure, especially electricity, are war crimes.
Cutting off men, women, children of water, electricity, and heating with winter coming.
These are acts of pure terror.
We have to call it as such.
Okay, so keep that in mind.
These are war crimes, she says.
Well, here's a couple of days ago, the Israeli defense minister, and this is a tweet by Glenn Deason, Defense Minister Yoav Galan, he said, I have ordered a complete siege of the Gaza Strip.
There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel.
Everything is closed.
We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly.
So did von der Leyen and the Europeans criticize them?
No.
Here's a tweet that she put out, the next one.
She just said, we stand with Israel.
So there you have it, double standards.
Seeing those three put together one after the other says everything you need to know about it.
Yeah.
Get rid of the third party interference.
But that's, of course, been going on for a long time, you know, that somebody else comes in and tries to settle it.
But it's something that I think will continue.
It's not going to be solved.
I don't think a conference is likely to do it.
Some of these things that seem insolvable, they usually settle down when both sides become exhausted.
You know, they run out of cannon fodder.
They run out of just weapons.
And they run out of people that run out of things.
The United States is going to run out of things too.
So I think we should stay out of that.
Everybody knows my position.
We should stay out and mind our own business.
At the same time, we will quit because we're going to run out of money and run out of confidence in this.
And things will change.
And that's why I think we stand to expect some really, really rough times ahead.
Because it seems like the last thing they'll probably quit spending money on, it won't be milk for babies.
It's going to be guns to kill somebody.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the last thing we're going to cover today is it's hardly as controversial as it used to be.
This is a piece written by a friend of ours, Brian McLynchy, who's a good journalist.
I encourage everyone to check out his sub stack.
It's a featured article in anti-war.com today, so you can get to it through that.
If you can put that next one up, Brian writes, Israel fostered the rise of Hamas even after it turned to terror.
And you say, that's nuts.
This guy's kooky.
What's going on?
Well, the fact of the matter is it's well known.
It's no secret.
Go to the next clip here.
This is from his article.
In 2015, the leader of the religious Zionist party and now Israel's finance minister said in 2015, quote, on the international playing field, in this game of the delegitimization, the Palestinians' authority is a liability and Hamas is an asset.
It's a terrorist organization.
Nobody will recognize it and nobody will give it status at the International Criminal Court.
And nobody will push, let them push resolutions at the UN.
So in the eyes of the Israeli right, the real threat to Israel is not Hamas's violence and terrorism.
The danger is a peace agreement and the establishment of a Palestinian state, wrote a Tel Aviv-based journalist, Mehran Rappaport.
And you say, well, those that are the far right, these guys are kooky.
Well, go on.
The next one is from Haretz, a very famous liberal newspaper in Israel.
They're reporting, anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to start support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas.
Netanyahu, who told his Likud Party's Knesset members in March 2019, this is part of our strategy.
We have to support Hamas.
We have to fund Hamas.
That's what we need to do.
And you'd say, well, that's crazy.
Why would they do it?
Well, initially, they helped create Hamas because they did not want to have the Palestinian Authority, which was a secular political party consisting of Christians and Muslims and non-religious people.
You had to fund extremists because that would give you the argument, we can't negotiate with these people.
They're extremists.
And by the way, somebody else said it on the floor way before anyone else was saying it.
And this little clip of someone we know, if we can get that queued up, the video clip, you might want to get those, although you may recognize this.
This is many years ago on the floor when they were debating a bill on whether Israel has the right to defend itself.
Here's someone that we know, Congressman Ron Paul is here, but you had to say back then, Dr. Paul.
You know, Hamas, if you look at the history, you'll find out that Hamas was encouraged and really started by Israel because they wanted Hamas to counteract Yasser Arafat.
You say, well, yeah, that was better then and served his purpose, but we didn't want Hamas to do this.
So then, we as Americans say, well, we have such a good system, we're going to impose this on the world.
We're going to invade Iraq and teach people how to be Democrats.
We want free elections.
So we encourage the Palestinians to have a free election.
They do, and they elect Hamas.
So we first, indirectly and directly through Israel, help establish Hamas.
Then we have an election.
Then Hamas becomes dominant.
So we have to kill him.
You know, it just doesn't make sense.
During the 80s, you know, we were allied with Osama bin Laden.
And we were contending with the Soviets.
It was at that time our CAA thought it was good if we radicalized the Muslim world.
So we financed the madrasa schools to radicalize the Muslims in order to compete with the Soviets.
There's too much blowback.
There's a lot of reasons why we should oppose this resolution.
You know, Hamas, if you look at the history of society, I approve that message.
Yeah, I mean, that's as fresh today.
And it's cynical and ugly, but that's the world we live in.
Yeah.
You know, and I think what people lack so often is they're in politics.
It's, they don't call it that, but it's real ugly pragmatism, whatever seems to help and not based on any principle.
So they never start with a principle.
And they think it's legitimate to do that.
This is a smart strategy.
What we'll do is we'll subsidize somebody here.
But I think a lot of that goes on, but this time it was so blatant, so bad.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's a terrible situation there.
We don't know what's going to happen next.
We know there's going to be a lot more bloodshed, though.
Probably on both sides, but now very, very disproportionately on the side of the Palestinians.
All Palestinians are not Hamas.
The idea of collective punishment is a cruel and inhuman idea.
It's also a war crime.
Israel is understandably furious at the bloodshed that they've had to endure over the past couple of days.
There's no question about that, and they're justified in that.
But I think we would caution that an overreaction may actually end up being worse for both sides.
So we'll see.
I'm going to close out if you think we're done.
I'm just going to close out with a little happier of a topic, which is put up that last photo just to remind you of Dr. Paul's new book, The Great Surreptitious Coup, Who Stole Western Civilization.
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Very good.
I want to close by re-emphasizing a theme that I have followed for a long time.
And that is, and we talked about it today, and that is third parties coming in to solve the solution of two countries or two people that are close together.
The closer the solution comes from those two people in a voluntary manner, the better off it will be.
As soon as you get a third party or a third person or a third group or a third government coming in and for humanitarian reasons come in, well, we have to solve this problem.
Well, we'll do this.
And usually they make it much worse.
And especially it's bad, I think, when the organization that comes in is globalist.
And there's a lot of that.
When you think about it, you know, America was different in 1917 because they had the League of Nations, and that's what sent.
It was well motivated to stop these stupid wars.
But they didn't understand why the wars occur.
And they make them worse when you have all these alignments.
And of course, the American people rejected it.
It wasn't voted in.
But by 1945, people were ready.
They were totally brainwashed into believing, well, it's a lack of government.
So then the UN was started.
And they come in and they solve it.
We have the UN, we have NATO, and all the organizations that are run by politicians and money-making machines that sell weapons.
Ending Unnecessary Wars 00:01:13
So, we're so far removed from the benefits of two people trying to sort out their differences.
And then the demagoguing comes, and we end up with the killing.
I think it's unnecessary.
I think it's foolish.
I think it's unconstitutional.
I think it's immoral.
And I think it's stoppable because I think the majority of the people would agree basically with what I'm saying.
Why fight these wars?
Why do it?
And they don't have the opportunity to very often hear this message because even though we have such strong and loyal supporters, you know, that most people, if you walk down the street, they get their messages from government schools, at government schools, and that's usually propaganda to teach you and condition you for what you're supposed to think and say and why you have to sacrifice your money and your lives to these organizations.
Well, it's not necessary, and it should be something that we could convince people of so much easier because it's a system of government and a system of understanding about getting along that will be the best opportunity for bringing about peace and prosperity, which is our goal.
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