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July 18, 2023 - Ron Paul Liberty Report
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Trump To Jail Over Jan 6th? Really?

President Trump has indicated that he is a "target" in the ongoing investigation of the events of January 6, 2022 - the "insurrection" and he anticipates being arrested under Biden's Justice Department. Is this a bridge too far? Arresting your political opponent? Also today: Slowly the MSM and Biden Administration are admitting their Ukraine plan failed.

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Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today is Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, welcome to the program.
Hello, Dr. Paul.
How are you?
Very well.
Thank you.
Doing just good, trying to save the world.
We're having a tough time.
We're next door neighbors today, right?
Because our studio has a little problem.
Yeah, but we have a good technician.
That's Sircon knew how to improvise, and we're talking through this modern technology.
So I hope we don't mess it up because we have a very important message, as usual.
And this message today that we're going to be talking about is on foreign policy because a big event occurred and they just finished.
We're on pins and needles.
What did they do?
What did they say?
You know, G20, that's the 20 big ones.
And they got together and it was supposed to be, you know, propaganda.
Tell us what's happening, reassure us what's going on.
And it's that part we usually get to hear about and find out what they're talking about.
But the real stuff at those meetings is done behind the scenes, you know, sneaking off in a corner, making deals and making contracts, selling more weapons, that sort of thing.
But this time, it was a little bit different because the propaganda effort, the announcement, the end, this is what we've done for the world.
They even sent Janet Yellen over there to, you know, get some real great propagandists and show how she can heal the economy.
And guess what?
They never had a communique.
They never had an announcement.
They never, they forgot about their propaganda.
And now we have to wonder, what were they doing in secret?
Because even the propaganda became secret, mainly because they don't know what they're doing.
It's sort of like trying to figure out what the Fed talks about and what their plans are, what's going to do.
And it's all done in secret.
Well, the real foreign policy is done in secret.
And then you have to sort that out from the propaganda and the lying.
And of course, we've been doing that over Ukraine now since 2014, since the coup that occurred with NATO, the United States that we strongly objected to has been ongoing.
And we've been witnessing and paying for many, many billions of dollars because we're the ones who pay the most because people still trust our printing presses.
They say, well, as long as the Americans print the money and people take it, we'll let them buy our weapons and do what we have to do.
So that has continued, but it will end.
And I think today is another example of the foreign policy and the operation of an empire is coming apart.
And they're coming apart right now.
They don't know exactly what's going to happen.
But I'll tell you what, they've started off with noble causes.
You know, they don't talk about maybe subtly there may be a contest going on here with behind the scenes, some fascists against some communists and maybe remnants of each one.
That, of course, is that's off limits.
You could get canceled for talking about that.
Anyway, I think that the people that the People that we're watching are very cautious of what they're saying and doing.
And Ukraine looks like the victims, as far as I'm concerned.
I think they've been talked into being the people who are out on the front lines and sacrificing the most.
And then the American people have suffered a lot, certainly with the amount of money being spent.
And Daniel, what do you have to say about this minor little problem?
Why didn't we have a communique?
Well, we've got a lot more to say about that, Dr. Paul.
But, you know, we had a breaking story before we started today, which is President Trump talking about being indicted.
So why don't we dig a little bit into that before we dig into the Ukraine stuff?
Because it seems like everyone is talking about this email.
He put out a statement on his True Social saying that he expected to be arrested and put in jail before the elections.
That seems to be the craziest thing that we've ever seen.
I don't know.
What are your thoughts about that?
Well, the Democrats are ecstatic.
They keep believing their own lies.
And it's essential.
And you and I have talked about this a lot.
We keep thinking that all is going to backfire.
But then there are times I think, well, maybe it can't keep backfiring.
But the worst it gets, really, the more likely it is it's going to backfire on them, you know, because they're lining up.
Now they're going after on G6.
Can you think of anything dumber than that when you look at, oh, yeah, we set an example for the world because when we had a trial on those people, we were really very cautious about following the rules.
Of course, the defense weren't allowed to even view the evidence.
And yet the media said nothing.
And all they do is there is a collusion between the people in the opposition party, along with the media, along with the military industrial complex.
They're terrified of Trump.
They're scared to death about Trump.
And therefore, they have to stick together.
That is their main goal in life.
And they'll do anything.
They understand very much that the whole thing is telling lies means no problem.
And that is the technique of tyranny and the technique of people who have empires.
They have to lie.
And lying becomes treasonous.
And that is what their goal is.
There's a lot of treason going on.
And believe me, I don't think the accusations toward Trump will satisfy everybody in this country on who's telling the truth and who's being more likely treasonous.
Treasonous Tactics 00:09:57
And that is what has to be sorted out.
But it will be.
You know, I think about the assassination, JFK.
And I remember how that attitude had to change.
And right now, we're in the middle of this great battle.
I think that's what this election is all about.
It is the contest between who's telling the truth on here and who's credible.
And that will be determined because there's a lot of stuff going back and forth.
And it's a real tragedy as I see it.
Yeah.
And the whole start of this was on Sunday night.
Apparently, President Trump, former President Trump, was sent a letter by this Jack Smith, who's a special prosecutor, telling them that he's the target of a grand jury investigation dealing with January 6th events.
Of course, that great insurrection where the Republic almost fell.
We were literally a hair's breadth from falling because of President Trump.
But apparently, so that is driving the speculation that they may actually try to jail him.
Now, he went to his truth social to talk about what's going on in his usual bombastic way, which endears some, of course, and it irritates a lot of others.
He actually made a very good and very accurate point.
And I'm just going to read from what he wrote.
He said, He said, they illegally spied on my campaign.
True.
Attacked me with a totally fake dossier that was funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign with the DNC.
True.
Impeached me twice.
I won.
True.
They failed on the Mueller witch hunt.
No collusion.
True.
They failed on the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax.
True.
We just found that out.
The 51 intelligence agents fraud.
True.
We found that out.
The FBI Twitter files.
True.
We found that out.
The DOJ Facebook censorship and every other scam imaginable.
But on top of that, they have now effectively indicted me three times.
The Department of Justice staffed and runs the DA's office in Manhattan with a probable fourth coming from Atlanta.
So having failed in all of those things, they are not deterred, Dr. Paul.
They're still going after him.
And I have to say, it's been said before, but the whole idea that a sitting president arrests and puts in jail his prime opposition, his prime opponent in a coming election, that is not something that you would expect in a normal democracy.
It's something you would expect in some third world dictatorship.
You know, it's been said many times that a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich.
That means it's a terrible system.
And I really agree with that.
It's a terrible system because the opposition is not allowed to speak out.
So they do indictment, but now indictments have become essentially guilt.
It used to be that this was just to get somebody to study it.
But no, it's very ruthless.
And this is something that has been going on.
But pretty soon they'll say, oh, no, they can not only can indict a ham sandwich, they can indict Donald Trump at will, you know, just indict him.
And now I think most people realize that ham sandwich was innocent.
And now I think they're waking up to find out that some of this stuff is a farce.
If that is true, I think Trump sort of has to have some psychological protection because he probably figures like you cited some of his defense.
It sounds pretty reasonable.
So he has to have some defense.
And that is that truth is on his side on so many of these issues and that the opposition loses ground.
It certainly has in the Republican Party.
You know, one thing I remember in 1984, 1974, when Nixon was being impeached and kicked out, that the Republicans really rallied around them and rallied around the Democrats and they worked together.
In this case, I'll tell you what, you don't see the Republican dissenters disappearing and they're pretty good at politics.
If they thought defending Trump under these terrible situations, just think of all these horrible things he's been doing.
He's been indicted, so he must have done at least 5% of them or something.
So that is something that they're looking at.
That is why I think the Republicans are not giving up on them.
And I have a suspicion that in time, some of the independents will do the same thing.
And that is not in the defense of the campaign of Donald Trump.
It's in the defense of trying to sort out truth from fiction.
I'll tell you what, there's a lot of fiction that goes out there that we have our job for ourselves.
Yeah, and I think Trump's main beef is that he doesn't think the elections were honest.
He thinks they were rigged.
Now, I think he should have a First Amendment right to suggest that.
And you've always said, well, okay, maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, but why can't we verify it?
You know, the other side, the opposition, even if you raise a question that there might be some problems, I don't know if it was rigged, but what if it was?
Even if you raise that question, you are anathema.
You are one of the insurgents.
You hate democracy of everything is trying to weaponize the idea that you can question the elections, which is ironic because Hillary Clinton still questions the 2016 elections.
She still says she was ripped off and she was cheated.
So they do it all the time, but they're trying to use Trump's skepticism, and I think well deserved skepticism of the conduct of the election in 2020.
They're trying to use that as a cudgel to beat him around the head and keep him from running again.
You know, sometimes it takes a while for truth to seep out and the people change their minds on things.
But 1948 was a famous year in Texas when LBJ stole an election.
Oh, he couldn't have stolen an election.
He became senator and he's president.
He's a legitimate president.
But when they go back now, they feel like then I get to thinking, you know, he got away with that.
Nobody really believes it was a fair election.
And, you know, in many ways, he got out of office in disgrace, which was deserved.
And so we never know what's going to happen.
I don't think, well, we don't know what's going to happen with this next election, but a lot of people think that it's over the top.
And to me, it's a contest between the people who have a little more respect for a higher law versus thinking that lies are important and truth is unachievable.
And I think there's more people out there that know and understand what a higher law is.
He shouldn't lie, cheat, and steal, even though it's happening all the time.
I think there's many that understand that.
So I think it's over the top right now of what's going on.
That's not to say it's 100% on one side versus the other side, but I'll tell you what, another indictment, somebody said there are going to be many, many more and they're going to come out of Georgia and every place else.
I think every time they do that, I think Trump probably, well, he picks up a couple million dollars.
We know that.
It really boosts his fundraising.
So it is a really distorted situation.
And unfortunately, it's been around for a long time.
Pure democracy is a messy thing.
And I can make a few suggestions on what they ought to do about that.
Yeah.
Well, they're obviously using lawfare against him, you know, trying to use the law as a weapon against him.
But, you know, Julie Kelly, who we had on the show, and she's been great on the January 6th stuff.
She's an investigative reporter with American Greatness and have a lot of respect for her.
Well, this is from the Zero Hedge article that we were both reading this morning.
And this is what she writes about it.
It's pretty chilling, Dr. Paul.
She says, Smith, and now that's the prosecutor, Smith knows this case is small potatoes compared to what he's about to inflict on Trump and several associates for January 6th.
It's very likely Smith will use the classified docs prosecution as leverage to seek pretrial detention for Trump when the special counsel indicts Trump for the several January 6th related offenses, which could include seditious conspiracy.
So they're going to use those classified documents as a pretense to put him in jail in the slammer while he awaits trial for all the other stuff they're piling on him.
And it just raises a crazy specter, Dr. Paul, of poor old President Trump sitting there in his jail cell running for president.
And I think you're right.
I think if that happens, I think it's going to bring a huge sympathy around Trump.
And it's going to get people to think there's really something wrong, not only with Biden, but with everyone around him.
I just think it's going to backfry.
I don't know how you feel about it.
Well, that's what I think.
Absolutely.
But I tell you what, there is going to be another option, which is the dangerous option, because there's going to be a few people who will really fit up with this if they see Trump in handcuffs behind some bars.
And that will be a declaration that is very, very dangerous.
It would really challenge those of us who resist and try to prevent the use of force to bring about political changes.
But that would excite a lot of people in a very negative way.
Exit Strategy Debate 00:11:43
So this just hope that it's limited to people waking up and saying, well, yes, this has been a ripoff.
This is an extreme abuse of justice and do their argument and fighting out in the political elections period there.
So I think that is what we hope for.
But let's hope none of that fits.
Let's hope that American people wake up sooner.
But we shouldn't give up hope that they won't wake up.
I know it goes a long time.
It took a long time for people to wake up and realize that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination.
But it didn't take 20 years for people to say, you know, the lockdown or COVID was a hoax.
And yet they're still fighting that by trying to destroy RFK because he suggested, you know, scientifically his arguments.
And they've turned, you talk about turning and twisting what a person says.
That's been an example of what we've heard there.
Absolutely.
Well, you were teased out a little bit about this G20 thing when we started.
So we should probably talk a little about it.
And I guess the short version is that they sent Janet Yellen over there.
Now, she's not had that great a success.
She went over to China.
Some people were saying that she was taking some psychedelic mushrooms over there.
That might have helped actually helped her out a little bit.
But she went over to India to do the G20 summit.
And she basically, as U.S. government people tend to do, she went over there like a bull in a China shop and she had all kinds of demands that the final communique has to condemn Russia and has to talk about supporting Ukraine until the end of time.
And everyone better sign this up or you're really bad people.
Well, she came face to face with the fact that the world has changed.
And she didn't get them to line up behind her and sign the document.
In fact, as you started this show pointing out, there was no final communique because the U.S., again, with its allies, of course, there's lapdogs like the U.K., they came in expecting one outcome and that outcome didn't happen.
So things I think have changed quite a bit.
And the G20 meeting has concluded without the statement of condemnation for Russia and full, complete support for Ukraine.
How often do you think has happened in the last 10, 20 years that people would say, well, we're bogged on here in Vietnam and Korea and all this?
Oh, you had no exit strategy.
Oh, that's the problem.
You don't have an exit strategy.
And I think that the main reason why that is is they don't have an enter strategy.
What are you getting involved for like that?
But there's no exit strategy.
I think ever since it was declared that the part of the Constitution, one of the parts of the Constitution that they deliberately omitted, and that is the declaration of war by Congress.
We're never going to do that again, which I was told point blank that that doesn't happen anymore.
So forget it.
And that to me means that you will have these no exit strategy.
And then you have nothing more than political people playing games.
And I think what has happened is that we have the Ukrainian people being right in the middle of this.
We have people there that would disagree with us on politics, but they also fell into the trap of playing fiddle for the Americans and for NATO.
And it's built on building up the hatred of the Russians.
So that's a propaganda stump.
And now, even without wondering what the options are, you say, what's the exit strategy?
And I think that's why they don't have one because they don't even know why they're there.
They don't have an exit strategy.
So they didn't get a community to explain what we're there for.
And the only thing they start looking at, and we can win over a couple now hawkish Republicans and saying, well, maybe we're running out of money.
Maybe it's a fiscal thing.
Well, fiscal is one thing, but it's also the morality of war and the use of force to remake the world.
That we tried remaking the Middle East, and there's still a lot of remaking that is necessary.
Yeah, and let's be optimistic about that because we did see one of the things we did see when Tucker Carlson did the Blaze TV's discussion with the other Republican candidates is the ones that were the most hawkish absolutely looked the most ridiculous.
And Tucker is a master at that.
He certainly made Mike Pence look stupid.
He made Nikki Haley look very dumb, which isn't super hard.
And Tim Scott and the others, because, well, why should we support Ukraine?
Because we have to.
Well, why do we have to?
Because we have to.
And on and on and on we go.
So, but the last thing I think we wanted to talk about, Dr. Paul, is this article in the Washington Post that came out today.
And we commend it to others to read.
But the title is: Ukraine Aims to Sap Russia's Defenses as U.S. urges a decisive breakthrough.
Now, this smacks of desperation, in my view, Dr. Paul, because basically what the article is saying is that five weeks into the counteroffensive, they've essentially gained nothing.
The tactics that they were trained in by NATO have not worked.
And so they've had to adjust their tactics.
And the thing is failing.
It's not going according to plan.
And the U.S. is encouraging them to go in even harder.
Even as, and we talked about this yesterday, I think it's reported that 30% of the Bradley fighting vehicles we sent over there have been destroyed.
And I think it was Forbes that reported a 20% of everything that's been sent over there is gone.
So it's being crushed instead.
And this does remind me, Dr. Paul, of the COVID thing, the bumper stickers.
Even though it's obvious that what they were saying and have been saying is wrong, Ukraine is winning.
Wear your mask.
Get your shot.
Everything they've said is wrong.
They can't back away and take a look at it.
They have to continue with the bumper stickers.
And that's what we're seeing here in NATO.
And it's actually, I think you suggested it early, very disgusting that the U.S. is pushing them to put everything into the breach and have a lot more people slaughtered in what is obviously a lost cause.
You know, during the debates, the argument was that most annoyed me that I really got perturbed by was, yes, we have to stay.
We have to say, yeah, you're right.
It's not going well.
We should have done it.
We should have done this and that.
But just think, how many men have died?
How many women died?
How many wounded have there been?
We can't, they can't quit now or they will have died in vain.
Just think of the insanity of that.
Oh, go ahead and do more of it.
And then you'll have more people dying in vain.
But that is that was one of the arguments.
In a way, this is what they're doing.
And we had a strategy which was non-existent.
We don't really know why we were there.
And why did the American people sit silent and let them go in there?
The information is available.
And yet, I don't think they learned it in the government schools on how some of these things have happened throughout history.
But the argument that we have to continue, because although we may have made mistakes and they were very bad, but we have to have a cause.
We can't figure out what it is, but we have to keep sending the troops in, keep building the weapons.
Maybe it's the building of the weapons that's a motivation more than the strategy of moving the world in the direction of peace and prosperity.
Yeah.
Well, this whole counter quote-unquote counteroffensive, the one thing that I think is most important about it, Dr. Paul, is that NATO weapons and tactics are on display here.
And that's what I think has them trying to force Ukraine to keep going.
Because by all objective measurements, NATO weapons and tactics are not doing very well.
We're seeing the destruction of the Bradleys, of the Leopards, all the wonder weapons that have been sent over there that we were promised would be game changers have turned out to not be game changers.
So with the lack of success in that department, what they've done is just say, I'm sorry, you got to throw all your men at this and have them all killed.
And if you look at any way on the drawing board, when you're an attacking force, you should have a three-to-one advantage, which they do not have.
And the other thing, you talk about NATO tactics.
They trained these Ukrainians for this counter offensive on combined armed tactics.
And that requires the use of an enormous amount of armored vehicles, infantry, artillery, and air power.
Well, Russia has complete air dominance.
The Ukrainians cannot get anything up in the air, at least not for long.
They're running out of artillery.
They're running out of infantry.
They're running out of armored vehicles.
On every measurement, they're running out of things.
And the NATO tactics they've been trained in have not found success.
So, again, NATO's response to Ukraine is: I'm sorry, guys, you got to keep dying.
We've got a lot at stake here.
If it's shown that our weapons are no good and our tactics are no good, we're going to have a heck of a time selling these things overseas.
So you're going to have to take one for the team.
Yes, and I think the point is well taken.
And it serves the interest of some.
People don't really care long term because, oh, we've used up all those bombs.
We need to build some more.
So they go back to building more bombs.
So that whole argument should wake people up, but generally it doesn't.
But you know, there's another side effect of all this when these weapons all of a sudden, and you mentioned it in your statement, that, oh, they're finding out that NATO American weapons have been used.
And we've been trying to hide behind the people who have fallen into the trap of fighting NATO's battle out of a pretense they're saving freedom for their country.
So I think it's the fact that there's a moral hazard there as well, because they are now looking and saying, hey, maybe America is more involved.
I think that's what's waking up some Americans, but there'll be others too.
And as our empire unravels and our financial system unravels, I think there's going to be more piling on.
And I think that's one of the reasons why eventually it will not be in the interest of the world to preserve for any longer the dollar standard.
Today it's in their interest to continue to do that.
But eventually that will change because this whole idea of these perpetual wars and the profiteering by American companies and others, British companies, many of them, doing, but the profiteering is an international organization.
There's no doubt about it.
But I think that is one of the things that people are starting to recognize too.
And that's getting the truth out.
And people realize, oh, I thought this was, you know, Russia, Russia invaded Ukraine.
War between Ukraine and Russia.
Oh, sure, sure.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the coup of 2014.
Daniel.
Yeah, I'm just going to close out now by thanking our viewers for having patience with us.
We do have some problems sometimes with our internet down here in Clute, Texas.
It just does happen.
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Dr. Paul, over to you.
Very good.
And I'd like to close with supporting that statement for sure.
And I think what we talked about today, both economic policies and domestic political things going on, but they're also enmeshed in, you know, foreign policy.
I remember the time when it was announced at the presidential debate, they say, oh, this week we're going to talk about foreign policy.
Last week, we talked about economic policy.
I raised my hand.
I said, you cannot separate the two.
They're all one and the same.
It's been on purpose, too.
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