Zelensky's Hit List: Kiev Pledges To Assassinate Putin And Other 'Enemies'
The second in command of Ukraine's intelligence services has admitted in an interview this week that the Ukrainian government is actively planning to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin and many of his top staff. He also pledged to kill "Russian propagandists." This as US intelligence now believes Ukraine was behind the unsuccessful recent drone attack on the Kremlin.
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Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report.
With us today is Daniel McAdams, our co-host.
Daniel, good to see you this morning.
Good morning, Dr. Paul.
How are you this morning?
Doing well, doing well.
Thursday, Thursday.
So, we'd like to start off with talking about Ukraine.
You remember about Ukraine?
A little bit, yeah.
Yeah, a little bit.
Well, the Ukrainian intelligence agencies and the people say it's trying to kill Putin.
And I kept thinking, I wonder who they got the permission from.
You know, they don't really exist as a force.
They exist as a puppet, a NATO puppet or a U.S. puppet.
But I think the main reason why we read these stories, this is my guess, is that they want to be one step removed.
The United States want to be removed from this attempt.
But it's America, it's our weapons, it's our money, it's our support, it's our NATO, it's our coup, you know, all of this thing.
So, but there's a limit, you know, presume Russia's going to get mad at us.
And that we can't happen.
So Zelensky's willing to take the blame and all the credit for their successes he pretends to have.
But this is routine.
I think it happens more than once to try to draw this line.
But I don't think they're fooling anybody except for a lot of American people who don't pay a whole lot of attention.
They look at this and they don't want to worry about our misinvolvement in this area.
But our goal is to try to explain what's going on, why this is happening.
And I just think that what we're seeing now is a lot of activity out of desperation because I think the Ukrainians are starting to realize they're not on the verge of victory and all the fibbing and lying that's going on.
So they have to look tough.
And this is one of the reasons why it looks like Biden had to switch his tune on the F-16s and to distract from what's really going on.
So it doesn't mean that because the Ukrainians are getting tired of all this and their allies are getting tired of it.
It's probably going to last for a while long.
I want to mention later on why.
Do you know what we're doing in Iraq?
It seems like we never give up.
So as long as we can have control in the open or the control in the closed shop, that's what's going to happen.
But anyway, this whole thing is just the announcement.
And do you think this is going to move a step or an inch toward maybe sitting down and having a talk before we drop the next one or drop a big one?
No, I don't think it's going to serve that purpose, but that's what we really should be looking for.
Just an opening, which was turned down a few years ago when the Ukrainians were willing to, but the United States put a hold on that.
No discussion, no discussion.
We'll put up that first clip because this is a write-up in the Daily Beast of an interview given by the deputy head of Ukraine's main intelligence directorate to Develt, which is a German magazine.
In this headline, here is, Ukrainian spy boss bluntly admits plan to assassinate Putin.
Put on the next one, this is Vadim Skibitsky, deputy head of Ukraine's main intelligence division, made the admission in an interview.
Putin is noticing we're getting closer and closer to him, but he's afraid of being killed by his own people, he's quoted as saying.
Many people in Russia support this special operation against Ukraine, but thanks to social media and phone checks, we know so many Russians have died as scarce people, et cetera, et cetera.
So he is interested in killing Putin and others we'll talk about later.
But you make a really good point in your opening, Dr. Paul, because whether or not the U.S. is behind it, the perception will be there that this is a U.S. operation because we've armed them, we've funded them, we've trained them, et cetera, et cetera.
So people will ask, well, is this directly at the U.S. direction?
We know Senator Lindsey Graham has said many times that the U.S. needs to assassinate Putin.
Or has the Ukrainian regime gone rogue?
Has the whole government said, okay, the U.S. says don't do it, we're going to do it anyway.
That's another thing.
Or, and a third possibility, which is interesting, is has part of Zelensky's own government gone rogue against his own wishes, which may be the third possibility.
We don't know, but what we do know is this is pretty serious business when you start putting out hit lists of the head of another government.
You know, it has been noted that Zelensky isn't sitting around the capital discussing things with his cabinet.
He's traveling around the world, you know, looking for more weaponry and trying to build his image.
But he's also, you know, some of the people have tried to talk him into it, and they were promising when we'll take care of you.
We're going to have all this.
You're going to live in a plush place in Switzerland and all these things.
You know, just the fact that they talk about it means that that's the type of operation that's going on.
And yet, yesterday, I believe it was that when we talked about how many Ukrainians are really suffering the consequence of this misadvised war that we helped to create.
Yeah.
And you have to wonder, is this kind of thing an effort to provoke a reaction from Russia?
Saying that you're going to kill him.
We'll talk a little bit later about those drones over the Kremlin, many other things.
It seems like it might be a provocation to get Russia to overreact or to throw Russia off of its game, which to this point, as we watch, has been to slowly and methodically grind down the Ukrainian war machine.
And this could be an attempt to try to get them, put them off their game, make them do something, because there is pressure at home in Russia.
People in Russia are angry, not that Putin went in, but that he's not hitting him harder.
So that could be another thing.
But whatever the case, it feels less like winning and more like desperation.
If you're winning a war, you're not talking about assassinating the other president, the other, you know, the dog catcher from the other side.
You know, it does smack of desperation, not confidence.
Yeah, and it's probably not going to work because it's so ill-advised war that's going on.
And they're perpetual, which is what we were warning all along.
These things last so long.
You know, a year and a half ago when this really got moving, we were saying, you know, is this going to be, they were saying, oh, a month or two, you know, this thing will be over.
But, you know, just the nature of things, and we mentioned yesterday, and the point I have made was that, you know, if it's not an enemy that everybody, you know, understands and can see, and if it's not done properly, people aren't going to be unified, you know, for victory or, you know, knowing what the end point is.
And this is just an example of floundering around, not knowing.
Sometimes, You know, there's an ulterior economic motive behind it.
And then it explains it.
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Maybe oil is important, you know, things like that.
Usually it's more oil than freedom.
Oh, I'm afraid of my for my freedom.
But what do they tell the American people?
We're protecting our interests and our constitutions and our liberties and peace.
And yet they may be there.
Our interest usually means our physical interests of ownership and control and control of the economy and maintaining a reserve currency.
That's what that means.
And that's not very constitutional.
It's not very American in the traditional sense of what it used to mean to have an American spirit.
And you can chalk this up to bluster and desperation and even almost laugh it off.
But the fact is that would be a mistake.
If you laugh off these threats, because they talk about Putin, Progozin, the head of the Wagner group, and several other government officials in Russia are on their hit list.
Now they have this hit list that they have, they call it a kill list.
And this is interesting because this is from that same interview.
Put up this next one.
This is why I would suggest that we should take this very seriously.
Ask if propagandists, oligarchs, and civilians would also be considered valid targets.
Skibitzi responded, quote, we are at war and these are our enemies.
So remember that, Dr. Paul, when I show you the next slide, he was asked if propagandists are also valid to be put on their kill list.
And he said, yes, they're our enemies.
Look at the next one, just as a reminder.
This is deadly serious.
This is from last July.
Tulsi Gabbard Rand Paul placed on list of Russian propagandists by Ukraine.
He explicitly says we will kill Russian propagandists.
And they have Senator Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, and many others on their list.
So I think the American people need to understand this is the kind of regime we're supporting that threatens a U.S. senator, that threatens American politicians, leading people in the U.S.
And we know they take this list seriously because Daria Dugina, the daughter of the Russian philosopher, was on that list and she was assassinated.
So this is serious, serious business.
And again, we need to think about who the Biden administration is supporting.
This chaos and effort to expand empires, it's not going to go away.
They're going to talk about it and they're going to threaten, but until it's finally settled, and unfortunately, it usually gets settled with increasing force, not reducing force.
The odds right now of them sitting down, especially with this aggravation that we participate in and help start this mess, they're not going to be diplomats all of a sudden.
That's why people are preparing for this expansion of the war.
I think the little bit of talk shows I listen to, there's people expressing fear that this is going to expand.
And they talk about nuclear weapons again.
And so that's the direction we're going in.
And yet when it would begin, why are we doing this?
Why are we over in a South China Sea looking for a fight there?
And why are we trying to get into a battle with China?
And then over here, why did we choose to aggravate Russia with all their imperfections?
But I say we don't have the moral right or the constitutional right.
And besides, it looks hypocritical because we have some shortcomings.
And we have supposedly the right of freedom of speech and expression where we can discuss these matters.
But right now, If you take an opposition position, especially, you know, like in the COVID incident, but on the war issue, too, you know, if you interfere, you already see these threats that are floating around.
It's just horrible.
Yeah, it is.
And we often talk about this on the show.
What if the shoe ran on the other foot?
Now, what if Xi Jinping said, you know what, you've sold all of these weapons to Taiwan.
We don't like it.
And in fact, we are going to put Biden on our hit list.
We're going to assassinate Biden.
America would freak out.
A foreign leader, a foreign government saying that they're going to assassinate a U.S. president.
In fact, I went a little bit into the past in my way back machine, and I remember that the war on Iraq was partly justified by George W. Bush's claim that Saddam tried to kill my daddy.
Let's put this on because this is from CNN 2002, just a refresher.
The war was partially justified by this.
Bush calls Saddam the guy who tried to kill my dad.
And here's from the article.
In discussing the threat posed by Iraqi President Hussein, Bush said, after all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad.
So the U.S. itself has used this threat against its top leaders as justification to start a major war.
So again, if the shoe was on the other foot, how would you feel?
Yeah.
That's for darn sure.
And I blame it all on the fact that we have become complicit, the American people, complicit in the notion of what is necessary for us to get into a hot war.
And they say, well, no, we're just defending our interests, you know, and we're defending our freedoms.
And that is nonsense.
We drift into these things, and it's been going on for so long.
It's going to take an awful lot of effort to switch under the conditions we have today.
Quite frankly, I'm a pessimist both economically and on foreign policy that things will get worse.
But there's no reason to think that those ideas of peace and prosperity, because we believe in them enough to spend a little energy trying to promote those ideas, that would make the world more peaceful and more prosperous.
But there's a lot of special interests.
They don't want to hear it.
Those individuals that talk like that become the enemy.
And the real leaders of the opposition are people who have no concept of what truth is, and they think lying is the establishment of truth.
If you're in power, you lie, and you establish truth.
But I always thought that's only for the Soviets, the Soviet system.
We never do that.
But all of a sudden, now, you know, philosophically, you know, that is used generally, you know, that they're willing to cause chaos and say that we establish truth.
And they probably have to do that for a human reason.
Because if they thought if they had responsibility, they'd be miserable people.
They'd feel guilty.
They wouldn't know how to treat themselves anymore.
And yet they continue to do the same thing over and over again.
And the motivation varies from one to another.
But it's usually power and money.
Yeah.
Well, the second one we want to talk about is related.
And this is kind of a head scratcher in a way because we know how leaks are used in Washington.
They're used to send messages and the media is compliant.
If they get a call from one of their contacts in the intelligence community, hey, whisper, whisper, here's what's going on, they're going to print it diligently.
And this, so we'll put on this next one.
This is from the New York Times.
Ukrainians were likely behind Kremlin drone attack, U.S. officials say.
So first of all, beyond what they're actually saying, you have to wonder why.
Why is this leak coming out now?
Why is it blaming Ukraine?
Who's it coming from?
Was it directed by Biden or by the political leadership in the intelligence community?
Or is there some pushback among the rank and file who are saying, we are getting too close to the third rail here.
We're getting over the red lines.
And so let's spit out a little bit of information about what this Ukrainian regime is up to.
And I don't know the answer, Dr. Ball.
I have no idea.
But it is quite interesting that there's this coming out, there's that coming out, there's the other coming out, blaming Ukraine for all of these terrorist attacks, all of these attacks here and there, the Belgorod attack inside of Russia.
And I don't know what you think, but I just wonder what's behind all this.
Well, I think it's an example of what I just said earlier, that the American people have to listen to this propaganda, and it's Ukraine's fault.
And it avoids the discussion of our policies, our money, and everything that we're doing and why we were there.
And I have one comment about the CIA.
The CIA is involved in all this.
People are starting to recognize that.
They're talking about assassinations and who should be killed.
But I was thinking while we were saying that, I am, too, worried about the CIA because the CIA sometimes kill Americans.
And that, of course, relates back to the 60s when they killed prominent politicians, our president and senators, because they took a disagreement over foreign policy.
Because peace is very dangerous to their organization.
War and contained war.
That's what they want.
They want containment.
So we have the war, we have the threat.
Everybody's supposed to be scared.
Well, we don't want a real war unless it's necessary.
Unless it's an accident.
But we better be prepared, and that's why we have to have a lot of weapons around and also the control of the propaganda.
So this stuff, I don't know the details of why they do what, but I still see most of this stuff is part of the propaganda machine, you know, to appease the people.
And because to go into whether it's World War II or Korea or Vietnam, there's always something for the American people to hang on to.
But the worst the excuse was to get into the war, the inevitability of that being found known, like in the Middle East, it was finally known, you know, what was going on and the lies that have been told.
And even that war is not really over yet, you know, in Iraq.
Things continue, and the empire has to be maintained.
That's what we're in the middle of.
Yeah, and I do wonder, you know, we're very critical, obviously, of the CIA, but I still believe that there are decent people in there who are trying to do a good job.
And I've read a couple of things, and I don't recall exactly where I read it most recently, but that they're having, a lot of these analysts are seeing a lot of these things, and they're having a difficult time getting it.
It's not making it to the leadership level.
It's being suppressed a lot of these assessments.
So it does make you wonder about what's going on.
And if you don't have good intelligence, you're not going to make good policy decisions.
We know this, I mean, we're redoing the Iraq war, where they didn't want to hear the truth.
They didn't want to hear that Iraq had nothing to do with it.
So they just shut that stuff aside.
Yeah, and I think what was an expression of what you're saying is that's why people started telling us the truth.
And then they were being mistreated.
So we passed a law.
They have a right to do this and they should never be punished.
So what happened?
They got more punishment.
You know, this whole thing, we even punish foreigners like Hassan's because they tell us the truth or an Ed Snowden.
He tells the truth and look at what they do.
They lose.
Essentially, you can lose your country by telling the truth.
And that really is a tragedy as far as I'm concerned.
It really is.
Well, let's dig a little bit into this article, this New York Times piece that anti-war, thankfully and helpfully summarized for us.
But so this is another thing that struck me, Dr. Paul.
So U.S. officials say the drone attack on the Kremlin earlier this month was likely orchestrated by one of Ukraine's special military or intelligence units.
the latest in a series of covert actions against Russian targets that have unnerved the Biden administration.
Clearly, it feels like they're getting sucked in, and that may well be the intent.
But here's the other thing that struck me, Dr. Paul.
U.S. intelligence agencies do not know which unit carried out the attack, and it was unclear whether President Zelensky of Ukraine or his top officials were aware of the operation.
Now, that also raises some questions.
Is Zelensky purposely being kept out of the loop from his own government?
Are there elements within the Ukrainian government that have gone rogue?
I mean, he is the commander-in-chief, and if he no longer commands the special military operations that his own government is doing, it does make you wonder what is going on in there.
Well, I think they're all dealing with bad manners and a lot of evil.
So I would think that he is unsafe, even in his own country, because when I look at what is happening, yes, the assassinations in our country occurred directly at people who disagree with the war.
But what about the other stuff that goes on?
What about our judicial system today?
What about the revelation about our CIA and the FBI?
Oh, that couldn't be.
That's an unbelievable.
People are making a, if it is, it's only two people that did that.
Yeah, but there is a system that goes on where they do undermine the whole establishment.
But the empire is deliberate.
That's why they have to control the monetary system.
They have to control the economic system.
They have to control all the military.
And what really bugs me personally is the taking over the medicine, you know, the pharmaceuticals.
And thank goodness that Robert Kennedy is going to get a little bit more attention for having been right on these issues.
And boy, the pharmaceuticals really can't stand him for telling the truth.
Truth is powerful.
It's also dangerous to the people who express the truth.
Exactly, exactly.
Well, let's finish up on this one.
We can go to the next one.
And I just wanted to point this out, Dr. Paul, that this preliminary U.S. assessment is based on intercepted communications with Russian officials and also within the Ukrainian officials.
That means, obviously, and this is probably meant to send the message that we are listening to both of you guys.
So behave yourselves like you say.
Don't be rude.
And then the next one, now this is from the same New York Times article, if we can go next really quick.
And this is interesting because this is a laundry list of what Ukrainian government is said to be involved in by the U.S. officials.
So U.S. officials say they believe the Ukrainians are also responsible for the assassination of the daughter of a prominent Russian nationalist, that's Daria Degino, the killing of a pro-Russian blogger, and a number of attacks in Russian towns near the border with Ukraine, the most recent of which occurred Monday.
So these are classic kind of terrorist attacks.
They don't have any strategic value in the war.
And again, they smack of desperation or an attempt to put Russia off of its game plan.
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But the other thing that came out this week, and before we move on to our last story, I think, is I just wanted to put this up, Dr. Paul.
And this came out from Germany.
If we can do this next one, this is from the UK Times.
Germany came out and said, hey, we think that Ukraine blew up the pipelines.
This happened just Monday this week.
German investigators are skeptical of claims that Russian naval ships sabotage Nord Stream pipelines and are instead pursuing leads that point to the Ukraine.
So Ukraine is getting blamed for everything right now, all of a sudden.
All of a sudden, everything wrong.
They did it.
You know, if you run out of milk, the Ukrainians did it.
I don't know what that means, but it just seems interesting.
Well, my first assessment would be the Ukrainians by themselves didn't have the technology that was required to do this.
But I could believe that the leaders in that country knew exactly what was going on.
They coordinate information and participated in it and didn't blow whistles.
And so, yes, that's the case.
And then the big deal is who are we going to blame in the public?
What will the American taxpayer think?
Will they get to hear about this?
Will it be ignored?
Or will they realize, oh, you know, maybe it was our CIA doing such things.
And the FBI, FBI, that's a domestic police force.
What are they doing all around the world?
And the CIA is supposed to be a foreign police force for us.
And why are they hounddogging American citizens here at home?
Yeah, no kidding.
Well, the next one, they get put on that next main article.
This is something that you noticed, Dr. Paul.
I think you saw it on anti-war.com, but this is very interesting.
It just came out.
USI's new military base in Iraq's oil-rich region.
Your first comment to me was, most people think that we're not in there anymore.
Now we're going to build a new base?
Yeah, it's been pretty quiet.
And most people say, yeah, it was too long and spent too money.
And they have perceived that that was one of the reasons why George Bush Jr., you know, he lost a bit of prestige over this because it ended badly.
But then again, and then we read about there was commerce going on and oil going on and not much attention paid to it.
But here we find that in the oil-rich region, we're very much involved.
And for some reason, this is again this escalation.
And, you know, the people are fearing the antagonism between the forces and nuclear weapons and all.
And here we feel it's necessary to build our second base that has been maintained in there.
And like the article said, in the oil region.
You know, my first comment was, you know, real early on in this century when these wars first started off, you know, there were some left progressives still pretty consistent in what they were arguing.
And they kept their slogan was, and they broadcast it pretty well.
It's all about oil.
That slogan.
And I thought, well, you know, they're leftists, they have to demagogue and they hate oil because it's free enterprise and that kind of stuff.
But it turns out, just think, can you develop some parallels on what has been going on is going on in Syria?
There's always a little place over here where the oil wells are, and we pay special attention to it and end up with control.
And here, this was the same thing.
And now we're building a new base there.
So the big thing is, you know, why did they have to do it right now?
Like, we said we admitted that we haven't paid a lot of attention to it.
You know, it's been rather quiet.
But all of a sudden, you know, the world is arming itself on a new base in Iraq.
What are they suspecting?
Maybe they're anticipating that Russia will get annoyed with us or something.
Yeah.
Well, one of the things that we have noticed, though, is that the U.S. presence in that area is increasingly tenuous.
If you think about all the things that have happened in the past six months, Iran and Saudi Arabia are getting along thanks to China's mediation.
That's different.
The return of Syria to the fold of Arab nations.
You know, he went to the Arab, they're back in, they went to the summit, everyone is shaking hands.
So here's the U.S. as the odd man out increasingly because we know how close Iraq and Iran are now that we help put them together.
So it just makes me think that this is an increasingly uncomfortable situation, and the U.S. is increasingly, as I said, the odd man out.
And the Iranians are not going to stand for the Americans coming in and stealing the oil.
They've already talked about.
I have this, if you can put on the next clip, go to Major General Mohammed.
One more after this one.
So this is a chief of staff of Iran's Armed Forces.
He warned that Iran's January 8th, 2022 missile attack on the al-Assad base, which came a few days after the martyrdom of General Qasem Soleimani by the U.S., was just the beginning.
So the Iranians are saying, we're going to hit your bases.
And the U.S. is saying, okay, we're going to build more bases.
Doesn't seem like too good of an idea.
You know, during the Iraq war, you know, Iraq was being maintained by the enemies of Iran.
But then the war was over.
And you mentioned it, you know, Iraq becomes an ally of Iran.
And which is, what are we going to call it?
Is that a conspiracy or an unintended consequence or some stupidity thing?
It's really still vague exactly why they would do it.
They should have known what it is.
And now it's coming, the policy is coming back to Haunted.
So I want to read the paragraph in the article that was touching on what you were saying.
It said, it's noteworthy that Iranian officials have repeatedly underlined that Iran's goal to expel U.S. troops from this region will continue until achieved.
So that's not going to go away.
And the war is not limited to the militarism.
It's limited to the Iranians and a few other countries, Russia and China, banding together to really attack a big thing.
It would be an economic time bomb and that would be to undermine the dollar as a reserve currency.
And that's what's happening.
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If you can put that last one up, because this is Thursday, I'll be bugging out for tomorrow.
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Get your tickets today, and we'll see you in a little over a week.
Okay, I'll come.
Thank you.
That's pretty good.
It sounds like fun.
There'll be friends there.
I always feel good there because we get new people all the time.
We get young people that come, and that's all very good.
But there's a lot of friends that come and people, on occasion, they'll compliment me on a speech I give.
And I know they're being very kind and courteous.
But I think if I do a good job, it's usually because of the crowd because they're just anxious to hear, you know, about the subject of peace and prosperity.
And I'm delighted to talk about it because that's an alternative to the war and poverty that most of the world has experienced, you know, for a long, long time.
And it's ideological.
It's as a result of people having an idea that government should take care of the people and the people aren't responsible.
The whole thing is that the founders did understand.
And that's why they worked hard on trying to give us a document to guide us in that direction.
Unfortunately, early on, it started to be eroded.
Certainly in this past 100 years, it's been eroded.
It continues.
But that effort has been known for a long time.
Peace and prosperity, though, is very clearly defined.
And we can move in that direction.
And every day, if we know we take one small step, at least in that direction, that's a benefit.
But that is our goal at the Institute, is to promote the cause of peace and prosperity.
It's understandable.
It's not complex.
And it happens to be moral.
It has to be very practical.
It happens to be constitutional.
And it happens to be a lot of fun.
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