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May 15, 2025 - The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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New Enemy. Same Beast w/ Dave Rubin | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #99
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Greetings, earthlings and humans and non-humans.
Whatever you are.
What are they, Jake?
Anunnaki.
Nephilim.
Nephilim.
Reptilians.
Nazis.
Let's see.
Conservaturds.
Libtards.
I don't know.
Whatever you got.
Welcome.
And also, of course, animals, the most highly attuned of all living beings, of all living souls, because they, unlike human beings, don't have to bullshit themselves in order to feel the joy of life.
Welcome to the Roseanne Barr Podcast.
Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.
Well, as you know, I love to speak to geniuses and...
You know, my guest today is a real genius, and I kind of have known him for a really long time, and I have to say that I was there when I recognized him as a budding genius.
It was at a party at Kelly's house, Kelly Carlin, her dad being George Carlin, and one of her very fun parties in Los Angeles, and I met this young man there, and anyway, I...
Loved him, and I began to quasi-mentor or whatever the hell you call it, befriend him.
He is a genius, and I'm thinking of the last time we saw each other was nine years ago, and we plotted and planned and discussed the world, and it became exactly what we said it was going to become.
But anyways, I'm excited for my guest.
Dave Rubin.
Hi, Dave.
I almost forgot my name there.
I didn't know where you were going with that.
It is great to see you, my friend.
Nine years.
Isn't that nuts?
Isn't that nuts?
Time freaking flies.
When I was in the car just now looking, I was like, when is the last time I saw her?
We've done shows since then and we've chatted and that kind of thing.
It was October of 2016, and I was using your studio, and you really freaking helped us for those few months when we were in between gigs, and I will always be very appreciative.
And that night at Kelly's, a lot of weed that night, and I had been a little bit out of the game.
And when Roseanne Barr brings her weed, you know it's going to be a screwy night, and if you remember correctly, it ended in the Tesla.
It was the first time I was ever in a Tesla.
It was your Tesla, you pressing the ludicrous button down a freaking...
Like, basic street.
And I thought we were going to go through a house.
Oh, I forgot about that because I said you want to ride into Tesla.
And that was when Ludacris, like, had a button.
Remember that?
You pressed a button and the car just freaking exploded.
And I literally thought we were going to die.
Oh, yeah.
I remember you.
You screamed.
You said to me, it was also, like, at the beginning of Tesla where you could just press a button and ask it for any music.
So you said, what do you want to listen to?
I love Frankie Valli, who I just interviewed, by the way, a couple of weeks ago.
Oh, how nice.
I love him.
90 years old.
Oh, my God.
It was incredible.
Sherry!
Yeah.
So we're listening to Oh, What a Night.
You press ludicrous mode.
And I'm like, this is how I'm going to die.
Listening to Frankie with Roseanne Barr stoned at George Carlin's daughter's house.
But that was the last time.
But I'm thinking of all the previous times.
Like, I remember when you came.
We're not going to get in trouble if I say anything about Chunk Fat Ass, are we?
Chunk Fucktard or whatever his name is.
When you was on his show, The Young...
Booshbags.
I say The Young Turds.
Comic genius over here.
Because I'm a comic genius.
That was amazing.
Oh, I see.
Turks.
See what I did?
She was a huge star in the 80s.
Paid for this house.
Stuff like that.
And I said chunk, not chank.
No, that was good too.
Yeah, good, right?
And I've been around the internet for a while.
You really nailed that one.
And you were like really, you were so upset.
And you said, this guy's a frigging, you know, I'm on the show with him.
But he's like really trying to piss me off because...
He keeps on saying these anti-Semite jokes.
I mean things, as my mother says, anti-Semite.
He keeps saying these pointedly anti-Semitic things to me.
And I don't know how to handle it.
And you were really, remember those conversations?
No, when I say that you rescued me, I really do mean that.
So I was at the Young Turks for like a year and a half.
I was definitely a big lefty and progressive.
I was a Bernie guy, all of that stuff.
And then I started just seeing through it very quickly.
Because, you know, when you're in the belly of the beast, once you see it, you can't unsee it.
So it was, yes, there was this obsessive hatred.
No, but he started slow like they do, right?
That's what they do.
It's all like Mike.
It's like, I'm going to get in there and let you know my naked, raw hatred.
But they start real slow, like, say your people.
They start with one of those, right?
Yeah, it's very subtle.
Well, it has to be subtle at first, right?
They've got to bring you down into the abyss.
And then once you're in the abyss, it's your decision to get out of the abyss or not.
So there was always this obsessively insane hatred of Israel, which, putting aside Jew or anything else, it's the only place in the Middle East, even now, that actually is a democracy, that respects women, that respects religious minorities, that protects the religious sites, all of these things.
And I was like, wait a minute.
You guys are progressive, and the place you hate on Earth the most is the one quasi-progressive place in the Middle East.
That's not going to work.
Luckily, you have other liners.
I hope you don't mind smoke.
No, no.
We'll be okay.
I assume in Austin, you have to smoke a cigarette and have some wine at 10 a.m. when you're in the suburbs of Austin.
You know, I'm changing the name of this podcast.
It is a Roseanne Bard podcast, but I want to change it to...
Roseanne gets drunk and then tells everyone what the fuck she really thinks.
It's long for you to do.
That's a little long for the meta stuff, but I think you could put that under the title or something.
In some sense, that's what you're doing, so I don't know that it needs to be in the title.
Maybe it's overcooked.
They're starting subtly.
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Yeah.
Because we had it so long ago.
Long.
And nobody else was even seeing it then because it was like chic and I was lefty too.
Yeah.
It was chic to say, well, it was chic.
Israel is a blah, blah.
And point it out amongst all the nations of the world, right?
This obsessive focus with it.
Like, you can criticize any country.
I mean, you ever sat down with five Jews, you get 20 opinions.
So it's not like Jews don't criticize Israel.
There's probably no one really, except like the true Nazi haters.
That's what Jews do.
That's like the history of the Jews is criticizing to ultimately make a better society and make a better world.
But this obsessive focus, no matter what happens...
But how did Chunk break you down to try to get into your soul?
He's like, first he's going, well, you agree, Dave, that...
Israel isn't perfect.
That's how they start.
Well, that's always how they start.
And then, of course, you're like, well, of course they're not perfect because there are no perfect people and there's no perfect countries or anything else.
I remember I was on air with them around 2014, one of the summer wars, and it was me against like five of them.
And it was all my, you know, they were my bosses too because Cenk was technically my boss and Steve, the CEO, he was my boss and the other ones.
And I just remember it was just...
Endless nonsense.
It was obvious they didn't understand the history.
They didn't know that a nation of Palestine never existed, that a people known as the Palestinians never existed.
They knew nothing about the British mandate.
We could do all the history, but you know what it's like.
You've been on enough shows over the years when you're trying to kind of be respectful in a way.
I was also kind of at the beginning of my career, so I wasn't as polished.
I didn't have any money.
I was like, I don't know, am I going to be fired at the end of this and then be on the street?
But then it just kept going and kept going.
What's the second step?
You know, the Jews aren't perfect.
Israel makes some mistakes.
You'll admit that.
Israel's not perfect.
They make some mistakes, right?
And then you grant them.
Yeah, they make some mistakes.
And then what's the second step?
Isn't it to separate Zionism from Judaism?
Go to the gas chambers.
No, that's the third step.
Oh, that's the third step.
It's three degrees of separation.
So what's the second step?
The second step?
I'm against Zionism, not Jews.
Oh, I'm not Judaism.
I'm not anti.
Semitic.
I'm anti-Zionist.
That's where they go.
No, no.
Chunk was great at that.
Right.
Well, that notion also, I mean, the fact that people now talk about Zionism, you know, you see all these people, the Twitterati that are always going off on Zionists.
It's like...
A Zionist is just someone that believes Jews have a right to a state, a state that is literally smaller than New Jersey, that has virtually no natural resources, that they've made the desert bloom.
Yeah, that has their sacred ancestors buried in it.
Not only their sacred ancestors, but all the other religions that they are the ones that protect.
I was in Jerusalem about a year ago, post-October 7th.
I went to Israel.
And to walk through...
The Old City.
I did a walk and talk.
We filmed it the entire time.
Oh, that's a great thing you did.
Well, it was so cool because what we did was we walked from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is the holiest site in Christianity.
That's where Jesus got crucified and they believe may be buried.
And then we walked in the Old City through, you know, the Arab Quarter, which was definitely not safe.
And our Israeli security guy was not happy that we did it.
But we filmed the entire thing of me walking.
It was about...
3 p.m. on a Friday.
So it was right before Shabbat.
And you know how the whole city just kind of changes at that point.
You see these religious guys in hats running because they got to get home before Shabbat.
And then you see women in burqas going the other way and everyone's and no one's.
For the most part, killing each other.
What we did, it's about a 12-minute walk to go from the holiest site in Christianity to the holiest site in Judaism.
And we walked the entire thing.
And I tried to say hello to people of all different religions and everything.
And it's like, that's the type of thing that people should be talking about from the Middle East.
Not all this other, like, endless bullshit that they throw at us constantly.
Well, because they really want, they really do want to destroy democracy.
Yeah.
Oh, it has nothing to do with Israel in the end.
Yeah.
I think they hate women's rights so bad.
It's such an insult to them.
Yeah.
That, you know, a woman can show her body at the beach.
You think that from, like, the left broadly?
Or you think that from, like, just purely from, like, the Islamist part of it?
The Islamist.
Yeah.
Because I always say there's Muslims and then there are Islamists.
And most Muslims hate Islamists too.
Everyone hates them.
Look what's going on in the UAE right now.
They've banned all these guys.
We've got these guys in America.
You've got a lot of them in Texas right now.
I think you know about that Dallas, what was it called, Epic City situation?
Apparently, I put a lot of pressure on there because, you know, I have a big mouth, Dave, and you know I don't lie.
And I don't pussyfoot around like...
Say, some world leaders.
And apparently that's been put a stop to.
Yeah, 400 acres.
Not anymore, Dave.
Because, of course, you know, when you buy land under fraudulent terms, people can look into that.
Yeah.
It would be like you buying 400 acres here and turning it into everyone has to, you know, pay 25% to Roseanne and pray to me and all that stuff, which I know you're working on.
I am working on that.
I bought all that Muslim land.
But that's just within your mind.
Right now you bought it and everyone has to rate a rose and you got it on the sheet.
Very clever, very clever.
The Jew thing.
Gotta do this.
But yeah, I have to do that.
But let me just say, so I go through all that stuff.
And you said, what should I do?
No, no, you saved yourself.
I just asked you the right questions and I said, well, what are you going to do?
And you said, well, I should quit.
I remember you said, I should quit, but I don't have anywhere.
What am I going to do?
And I said, Build your own thing, Dave.
Yeah.
You've got a voice and, you know, people listen to you and just walk away and build your own thing.
And I said, you can use the studio.
You've got a voice and you have to use it.
It's a gift.
And it took about three meetings and you were scared.
And I said, no, you can't handle that.
And you did fight back.
I said, ask Chunk, what about the Armenian massacre?
What do you think of that, Chunk?
No, he doesn't want to talk about that.
No, you did bring it up, though.
No, no, I ended up bringing it up on Twitter once.
I don't know if I had, I guess I had just left, because then it was the 100th anniversary of the Armenian genocide.
And there were billboards all over.
Actually, driving to your house, I used to pass a billboard that was about the 100th anniversary of the Armenian genocide, which is actually where it was.
got the idea for the Holocaust, for the extermination of the Jews.
And then I started bringing it up more.
And that, of course, was his red line.
And then it's like one of these things.
Once you see the little bit of fakery around these people, then you see that everything is fake, that none of the policies make sense, that it's all based in bigotry and there's so much anger there.
Isn't it based in them obscuring their little genocides that they got away with and scapegoating the Jews?
Well, the reason, The reason every conspiracy theory ends with the Jews is that everything has to end with something, right?
Because otherwise we'd all be like spinning off into oblivion all the time.
So at the end of every conspiracy theory is the Jews, right?
So if they release the JFK files and there's nothing about the Jews, they go, that's the proof that it was the Jews because there was nothing there.
Or if they say something about 9-11 or they say something about whatever it might be.
Or if the Jews get massacred and mass murdered, well...
See, it was the Jews setting that up so nobody would know that they're in power of everything.
Yeah.
So it's funny.
The Jews, who have all this power, live in the one nation on Earth that is endlessly bombed, that has suicide bombed, less now, but that has had this insane massacre, still has rockets going into it today.
For 70 years.
Literally its entire existence as a modern state.
And 1,400 years before that.
Right.
So like literally the entire time, well before the modern state of Israel.
And then it's also the Jews who control everything, who also can't go to college safely at Columbia or Harvard or blah, blah, blah.
Well, that's just a trick to distract from the fact that they're also running everything.
See, that's how nefarious they are.
That is a hell of a trick.
That's pretty good.
Don't you wish?
Like, sometimes when they say all these things.
Like, they massacred themselves on October 7th just to prove that, just so they would have an excuse to go after the poor, innocent Palestinians.
It's so fucking psychotic.
You know, there was no, I know you know the history, but there was not one Jew in Gaza since 2005.
Yeah.
There was nobody.
Because Bibi Netanyahu made them all move out.
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Well, ironically, well no, Bibi didn't want them to move out.
It was Sharon, who was the Prime Minister.
But Bibi signed off on it.
I think at the last second he kind of did.
He always signs off at the last second.
Yeah, you can say what you want about Bibi and look, this thing happened on his watch.
So there's criticism there for sure.
But he also led them.
He's led a country for 30 years that was basically a third world nation.
I think that's enough.
Who does he think he is?
Well, they can't do it with...
The PLO guy that's been in power for 40 years?
Oh, Abbas.
He had one election and he's been in power for 40 years.
Look, yeah.
He's got to wrap this thing up at some point.
I think in his mind he probably...
I can't speak for him, but I think he probably feels October 7th happened on his watch and he has to now get them out of this last phase, which I think relative to what's going on in the Middle East is kind of happening.
And then...
And then, unfortunately, his legacy will be really tarnished, the guy who turned the country into something truly extraordinary.
But it did happen on his watch.
It's as simple as that.
And it was so horrifying.
Yeah.
Have you been since October 7th?
No.
I went down there.
I went to the kibbutzes down there and, you know.
The crazy thing is that when I was walking through Kibbutz Beri, I think, you know, if you go to, I've never been to Auschwitz or I've never been to a concentration camp.
Have you been to any of them?
No, I just didn't think it would be fun.
On a vacation tour.
Yeah, they wouldn't let you have the wine at 10 a.m. over there, even though that's probably where you'd need it.
But I remember, I've never been to Auschwitz, but when I was walking through Beri, I kept thinking.
You know, if you took a trip to Auschwitz, like, you know what Auschwitz was designed for.
It was designed for mass extermination.
You go to these kibbutzes and they're burned out and the bullet holes are everywhere and they have the markings, you know, because a lot of the Palestinians that came in that day, they worked with these people.
I know.
Because these were all the peaceniks.
Those people were the peaceniks.
It's insane when you think about that.
No, it's not because the left always sacrifices the left.
Suicidal empathy, as my friend Gad said, who you know, as he always talks about.
So they literally had people that were working with them that then marked on the doors, you know, how many Jews live here, basically, although they were killing everybody.
They killed the Thai workers and everybody else.
And Arabs.
And Arabs, right.
So they just slaughtered as many people as they could.
But I just kept thinking, man, if I had walked through Auschwitz, you knew what it was set up for.
It was set up for death and then death occurred there, so it was kind of very direct.
But to be in a place that was purely set up for life, the most humble, ridiculous, these houses, these houses, some of them were barely bigger than this room.
I mean, they literally had the tiniest kitchen, one bedroom.
These were the most humble, peacenik.
And it just simply didn't matter.
Half of them probably weren't even Zionists, the way that these dingbats would use the term.
No, they were pro-two states.
Yeah, which not anymore.
Not anymore.
Well, it was a pretty huge wake-up call.
A horrible, horrible wake-up call.
And then, of course, October 8th was the horrible wake-up call.
It was almost as if it was world-organized in a way.
And I'm being facetious.
Did you know October 7th is Putin's birthday and he celebrated in Moscow with Sinoir?
No, Sinoir wasn't there that day.
Yes, he was.
Sinoir was in Moscow?
With Putin lighting candles on October 7th.
I did not know that.
I mean, that's pretty well.
He's long dead and I think his brother died today.
Did you see that?
Yes.
I think he killed his brother today.
Yes, because it's...
That's nuts, though.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, and it was almost like October 8th, all the protests around the world sprang up with all the same tents, all the same organization, all the same signs.
How does a grassroots worldwide protest spring up like that?
Where did Antifa go?
Yeah.
Well, they just unmasked themselves.
It was BLM unmasked itself into Antifa.
Antifa unmasked itself into Haas.
That's what I'm saying.
And it's all paid.
You know, it's all paid for.
It's all of the Soros money.
These people are...
That's why everyone was freaking out.
Which is American tax money.
Right.
So that's why everyone was freaking about USAID because the more that...
Elon uncovered this stuff, the more we've realized we've been paying for our own destruction.
Of course.
Legitimately.
They take money from us, they push it to these NGOs, and the NGOs then put the foot soldiers out on the streets, and we're surprised.
And they also imported ISIS to America, and that's why I love when I see these right-wingers, or whatever they are, because they're not right.
They sound just like Antifa.
But they say they're Trumpers, they're woke right.
But, you know, they sound just like Antifa.
What?
And, you know, there they are, talking about Israel 24-7, these new right folk.
And they've got ISIS living right next door waiting for this summer.
Right.
And they don't even see it.
They either don't see it or they do see it and they have some really strange motive then.
Well, they're getting paid.
Well, so Qatar is definitely paying a lot of these people.
Qatar is paying for all of it.
Qatar has put more money into this country than anybody else.
They've funded all the universities.
You know, there's a lot of wacky stuff around Qatar.
The Muslim Brotherhood.
It is the Muslim Brotherhood, which, of course, is banned in the UAE.
If we would just treat these organizations the way the UAE treats them, which hopefully Trump, he's over there right now, he's in Saudi Arabia, maybe he'll be like, you know.
He's in Qatar.
I should learn a little something.
Oh, is he in Qatar today?
So he was in Saudi Arabia yesterday.
What do you think I'll let him go in there?
I think it's basically pretty good.
I think this guy has been so freaking good.
He's been kind of the savior that we've been looking for.
He's been directionally right about almost everything.
That even if he's talking to some really bad people right now.
You have to do that.
Listen to this.
You make peace with bad people and he's trying to think of things differently.
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Uh oh.
The White House has officially disclosed President Trump's strategic demands during his historic meeting with Syria's al-Shara 'a, full normalization with Israel under the framework of the Abrahamic Accords,
immediate deportation of Palestinian foreign terrorist elements, coordinated operations with the United States to neutralize the resurgence of ISIS, Assumption of full operation control over ISIS detention centers in northeast Syria.
northeastern Syria, constitutional guarantees ensuring the protection of religious minorities, particularly Christians, within the future political architecture of Syria.
This marks a decisive shift from chaos to calculated order, ushering in new doctrine of regional stabilization through strength, deterrence, and uncompromising.
I mean every word of that is perfect.
Isn't it perfect?
All these fucktards have to do.
Is just accept that this tiny little sliver of land is going to have some Jews on it.
If you guys accept that, you will have peace.
The Jews don't want an inch of anything else.
They don't want to be in Syria.
They don't want to be in Lebanon.
They didn't want an inch of Gaza until you motherfuckers did this.
So all the rest of you have to do.
The problem that they've created is they've...
What they've done, the leaders of these Arab nations, what they've done is to avoid their people hating them, they just pointed at the Jews, right?
So now they have a weird thing on their hands.
They have the opportunity for peace right now, but now they're going to have to teach their people, boy, you know, turns out if you're living in Egypt, you know, you live in the suburbs of Cairo, it's not...
The problems that you have, the homelessness and the decay of the whole place, it ain't because of the Jews.
So there's going to be a little work that has to be done there.
They're going to have to restructure their feudal system.
Yeah.
And they love feudalism and hate democracy.
They love, what is it, vertical rule, and Israel is horizontal rule, which is democracy.
Yeah.
And they hate it because women are going to have rights.
Period.
You can't have chicks just wandering around saying whatever they want.
No, because you know what?
Then you get Roseanne.
I totally understand that.
Then you get Roseanne.
Yeah, exactly.
Or even worse, you get like, you know, the pink pussy hat crowd.
Yeah.
Which I'm so happy to say now, when they had that pink pussy hat marches and all that shit, that was transphobic.
Ugh.
Think about it.
They didn't have one penis on them pussy hats.
Yeah, exactly.
You see where I'm going?
That thing, that whole thing.
That was saying that women only have vaginas.
There wasn't one penis on their head.
There was not one chick with a dick at one of these things.
You're right.
That's transphobism.
Right?
You know, a phobia is an irrational fear.
That's why I don't like the phrase transphobia or Islamophobia is the worst one because it's not irrational to fear a set of ideas that would have you killed.
A supremacist conquering death cult religion?
Of course I fear it.
Of course I fucking fear it.
That's never going to stop and lies all the damn way and breaks every 10-year treaty in the seventh year.
That's how...
Mohammed took over Medina.
He made a peace treaty with the Jews in Medina.
And they accepted it like Jews always do because they're idiots.
And so in the seventh year of the peace contract, after everybody was disarmed, he killed them all and took over Medina.
Well, hopefully that's not what's happening right now.
That's my question.
Why wouldn't it be?
I wouldn't trust nothing they signed.
Well, I don't think you trust...
I don't...
That's why I'm saying you got to give Trump some grace here because clearly the world is changing.
He's doing things.
No, I know what he's doing because he's going to say, because I was thinking about it.
Yeah.
It's 4G chess, I think.
And he's going to go, yeah, you have the choice to build a beautiful city.
And I listened to his speech, an incredible economy and have, you know, riches and wonders for your people.
Or, you know, bye-bye.
And then I was thinking, Qatar, it's cool because we have a base there.
So he's like, hey, you know, maybe we won't protect you.
Maybe if you don't do right.
Because Trump, above all else, he's supposed to stand for justice and righteousness.
So it's kind of weird.
I like that all those deals are hinged on.
You do the right thing or you're...
Going into a other place you don't really want to go.
Isn't it crazy?
Like, it's just so freaking obvious as policy.
He's not asking much.
He's not saying, I have to rule you.
He's just saying, like...
Do some basic shit.
Let go a little bit of the hate.
Let us invest.
Let you guys invest in us.
And we could reframe the entire world.
Like, it's so obvious and simple that that's the genius of Trump.
Everybody else, no, let's just redraw maps.
And let's move these people here and these people here and do all these crazy things.
And it's like, he's just saying, get on board.
Because if you don't, because you're right about Qatar.
You know, Qatar is nothing.
It's a tiny, absurd nothing that everyone always says it's a glorified gas station.
All they've got is gas, right?
So that's what's giving them the money to then...
You know, take over our universities.
But without our base, which I think has like 20,000 U.S. soldiers on it, they're gone tomorrow.
So he's using leverage.
I mean, I think he wrote a book about it.
And we have all the gas in the damn world right here.
We'd be just fine.
You know, look at how they've set us up, though.
Look at how, you know, the king is China on the chessboard.
I mean, they've set us up for destruction.
Yeah.
In every way.
They run.
The CCP runs all of them.
It runs Iran.
It runs it all.
Well, the fact that they basically this week were like, okay, we'll send less fentanyl into your country.
Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know?
I mean, it's basically a kind of slow motion killing that they've been doing to us.
On top of the fact that they own all our debt.
And then one day, in a mafia movie, when the guy comes for the debt...
Unless you have a bigger gun, you're fucked.
So China's the other part of this that nobody knows what to make of.
Well, I think Trump did a good thing over there because I have friends over there involved in that kind of thing.
Well, they went over there and kind of collapsed their...
They drove up inflation and kind of collapsed their whole thing.
So China's been forced to buy back America's debt.
Are you saying...
Great.
Are you saying we don't need all the Chinese shit we're buying on Amazon every day?
All that cheap garbage?
Well, I won't go that far.
Are you saying the $20 jacket that I got?
No, this house is full of Chinese crap.
Chinese crap, I beg your pardon.
So you're actually the queen on the chessboard with your Amazon purchases.
Well, they have us addicted to cheap shit, right?
I mean, it's as simple as that.
You know you can go on there.
But some of it's so cool.
Yeah.
I don't buy medicine from Amazon.
That's what they say.
Yeah.
Because it comes from China.
It's probably all full of fentanyl.
You know, snake parts and bird beaks.
I've been drinking some, do you know Sital?
You must have some Sital down here.
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They can make it in Texas.
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Really?
It's almost like half ecstasy, half Viagra.
Really?
Which I don't know how that works on a chick, but you'll enjoy yourself.
Well, it wouldn't work on me because I'm, you know.
You're beyond.
I'm beyond.
She's dead below the waist.
I'm dead below the neck.
You know, the first time I went to your house, you invited me over after one of these Kelly Carlin parties.
We go to your house and we're just hanging out and you're showing me.
different things that you have and some music and stuff and we're, you know, over the, over the bay over there and you bust out your weed pen with some of your special stuff.
Yeah.
I was completely, Completely out of my mind.
Like, I was full-on, like, disassociated.
Like, I'm sitting with Roseanne Barr, who I watched on television, you know, 20 years ago.
Is this real life?
And I'm just blitzed out of my mind, and you're just going on and on and on and on, and here we are.
Here we are 10 years later.
Nothing's changed.
Nothing's changed.
I know.
Well, you morphed to cigarettes, so you're going in the wrong direction on that.
She smoked back then, too.
She just hit it back.
No, I didn't smoke then.
I only smoked a few months and then quit for...
I don't know why I do that, but I don't know.
It's a smoke screen.
I don't know.
I've gone through all the therapy.
It's a stress thing?
It's a stress thing.
She has a project potential.
When I write, I can't write without a cigarette, and I'm writing.
Is that right?
So that's crazy.
I just can't do it.
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Can I ask you a question, Dave?
We go back as well.
Thank you.
You were on my podcast a long time ago.
I always liked you.
When you came to the studio and you were showing us...
You know, the young Turk and you wanted to leave and all that time.
We were all, you kind of touched on it earlier, but we were all Bernie bros and leftists and we're like, hey, the left's kind of scary with this anti-Semitism.
Now, fast forward to 2025, surely you see the same thing we're seeing with it happening on the right now, right?
Don't you think we're bleeding again now going, fuck, we're still, these people are still within our ranks because it's terrifying me.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's a tool.
It's a tool.
That's the thing.
You're right.
It's a tool.
That's why it can be used by either side.
It's basically a weapon.
A hammer is a tool.
And a hammer can be used to build a house or to crack someone's skull.
And so what people use, depending on what your situation is...
You know James Lindsay?
Have you talked to James Lindsay?
Yeah, he's coming on soon.
He's coming on soon.
So he's the one that really popularized the term woke right.
And he really gets into the epistemology about what they're doing and why they're doing and that they're...
These people on the right now are just using the tactics.
They're using the tool of the left to just crush dissent and basically take over.
So he's really, really, really great on that.
The weird thing for me about this is, like you, I was early in on the left has gone bananas, right?
I mean, that's basically how I made my career.
I did a video for PragerU called Why I Left the Left.
And then that was like the thing that pushed everything forward.
So to now...
So my feeling was, hey, I'm a liberal.
I'm still as liberal as I ever was.
I wrote a book defending liberalism.
But to be a liberal really means you're on the right now because a liberal believes in freedom.
A liberal believes in individual rights and all those things.
Well, you're supposed to.
You're supposed to, right.
A real liberal.
Not the way a liberal is thought of today, but a Bill Maher liberal or the way you are still liberal or the way I am.
A real liberal.
We call him a real liberal.
Right.
An old school liberal.
Yeah, free speech.
Yeah.
The ACLU of 1972 defending the Nazis marching in Skokie.
Civil rights.
Right.
I tried very hard to wake up the Democrats and the left.
You know, what the hell is going on here?
Jordan Peterson, one line that I love from him is he went to, for like two years, he would go to the Capitol and he'd meet with all these Democrat senators and congresspeople.
And he would always ask them the same question.
When does the left go too far?
And he said nobody could ever give him an answer.
So they had no barrier.
It's nice to progress, but you don't want to just progress if there's a cliff over there.
And they've clearly gone off the cliff.
So the weird thing now, as it pertains to the right, is we're seeing a version of that pop up on the right, a version of identitarianism, a version that is genuinely, I don't like to just throw the word racist around, but that actually is racist.
Now, you could argue this is all the fault of the left.
If these fucking idiots had not ruined so much of what is good about this country, this would have never happened on the right.
It's a great argument, and it's probably true.
But the truth is, here we are.
So what do we do with this right now?
Yeah, what do we do?
Well, this morning I tweeted something that I think is the right...
I remember when you and me were talking about this very thing way back in the day.
It's time we do it again.
And I said, we can't be silent.
We have to name it, because when you name it, you weave it into visibility.
You can't fight an invisible enemy.
It has to be named.
It has to be defined, and people have to agree on the definition.
Well, that's why I messaged you a couple months ago, because when I saw you start talking about this.
I think you have an unbelievably unique position in this because first off, everyone loves you.
Everyone loves you.
You're just loved by so many people from everything you've done over the years.
And now you went from mainstream success into this fucking crazy world and the way you just say what you think clearly with no filter and all of that stuff.
And you're loved by a lot of these people.
A lot of the people that we're talking about really love you.
Some of them I think still like me, but they definitely don't love me that way and there's like a disconnect there.
With you, you could go to like the craziest rally that these lunatics are having and you would be loved there even as you were poking them.
So I think, I don't know exactly what you do with that, but I think you just have an unbelievable opportunity here to blow apart some of the bullshit that these people have kind of inoculated themselves in.
Well, I think that that's how they take people down is they...
They feed them hate and they get them to use hate as a battery.
And that only destroys you.
So you can't...
And faction.
Yeah, and faction, everything.
And that takes away everybody's power where unity brings power.
So it is divide and conquer.
But, you know, love just cures everything.
Love makes you put your arms around people even if you don't like them.
And treat them with dignity.
Even if you disagree, you can still talk.
You can find common ground.
Because we all have common ground.
We all want our kids to be okay.
We all want them to have a good education.
We want them to be safe.
Everyone in the world.
So why do we concentrate on things we can never agree on?
Because we're programmed.
Because the people in power keep their power that way when we're at each other.
Well, that's what I think is so unique about the opportunity right now.
I'm really, for whatever the risks are that Trump is doing right now in the Middle East, Like, this is the chance.
It is.
At least at that level, at least at the geopolitical Middle East level, that's the chance.
And then from an American perspective, I would say, you know, look, I worked very hard to have the Democrats not go crazy.
You did the same thing.
It didn't work.
They went crazy.
They've made their choice.
What I'm really focused on right now is I really want this Trump thing to hold because it's the last chance for America.
It is.
Like, the idea that Donald Trump, this conservative who got them to flip Roe v.
Wade and blah, blah, blah, who obviously everyone...
Oh, wow.
Yeah, like, you want to know something funny?
So that day for Trump first election, so you know, 2015, November, we had, oh, it was right after we left you.
So the last time I saw you was in October of 2016.
And And we're still living in West Hollywood.
But then the election comes and we had just moved across the hill.
We're living in Sherman Oaks and I have to go back to West Hollywood for voting.
So we're driving across Laurel Canyon and David and I are both like, we just didn't know who to vote for.
I was like, I hate Hillary, but am I really voting for Trump?
Like, I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do.
I'm like, this is what I do for a living.
How can I not know what I'm doing right now?
We get to the polling station in West Hollywood.
I'm standing there like, I just don't know what the fuck I'm going to do.
And then I look in front of me and it's Rupert.
RuPaul standing right in front of me as a man.
It was man RuPaul standing there.
And I was like, this is a moment I'm always going to remember.
I'm voting for Gary Johnson.
That was it.
So, you know, what are you going to do?
But anyway, what I really want to focus on right now is the thing that brought Tulsi.
And Bobby Kennedy and Rogan and me and you and all of the sane people over to Trump.
I want that thing to hold.
It's the last chance for America.
It really is.
Unless you want this thing to turn into some sort of either...
Crazed, dystopian, leftist-run, globalist lunacy.
Chaos.
You want that.
So if you want that, okay, fine.
And then if you want the right to just break down, if you want the right to just be either white identitarianism or some other grievance thing where it's always looking to just...
To make America a theologian caliphate.
So if you want one of those two things, the choice is pretty simple.
But if you want to do the American thing, the thing that allows for different people to have different opinions and blah, blah, blah.
Trump is the thing.
He literally is the wall right now.
And the pressures are on both.
That's the weird thing about the wall.
The pressures are on both sides of the wall.
The wall usually just is trying to keep one way out.
In this sense, he's the freaking damn right now.
And that's why I just, even when he's done little things that seem weird, the money, I don't know, the Qatar plane thing seems a little weird to me.
Like, optics-wise, it's a little weird.
But I'm just like, I will give this guy every benefit of the doubt right now.
He's earned the right.
Yeah, he's earned it.
All these people are like, hey, if you don't criticize Trump enough, I'm like, wait a minute.
The guy who did the thing that no one said could be done, who's basically reordering the world in the best possible way, yeah, I'm not going to poke him every time Dave Rubin disagrees with him over something, as if I have insight into every little thing that's going on there.
I know that he says he wants to be remembered as the president who brought peace, but that worries me a little bit because you can't have peace with a...
You can't really make peace with somebody who's coming to kill you.
Come on.
Right.
No, you could probably get, what do you say, seven years out of the 10-year truce with Muhammad?
So you can get like extensions basically, right?
I mean, maybe unless you put them in a chokehold and they have no, that's the only thing that wins is raw force.
Right, well, peace through strength.
Right, exactly.
So he could basically, what my guess is...
I'm kind of mad in a way that he's like, he got the American hostage released, but where is the American president that would say, you...
You fucking took an American citizen hostage and you killed American citizens.
And I don't care if B.B. can't make up his mind what the hell to do.
America will, like we did after 9-1-1, we're coming in there and we're going to get all of Hamas.
We're going to get rid of Hamas, which he is saying.
But, I mean, where is...
Where's the justice to just go, oh, we got him released and now, you know, we're going to, you know, do business with the people who finance this whole thing.
I don't get that part that he doesn't take our military and kick some fucking ass.
For taking Americans hostage.
Right, but you don't want our military there.
You mean just let Israel do what they have to do?
No, I want our military.
Oh, you do.
They took our people hostage.
They killed Americans.
Yeah, I don't want our military there.
They've been killing Americans and Christians all over the place.
There's a genocide on Christians in every Muslim country.
Where's our...
Why are we not doing anything?
Well, hopefully this last few days will lead to something happening.
I don't want our military there because at the end of the day, you know what will happen, which is that some of them will be killed and it will be blamed on Israel and the Jews.
So I just think Israel has an unbelievable military.
I mean, really second to none except for us.
So let them deal with it.
And the question really is, all right, you got 20 living people somewhere.
They know it's 20 now.
It was 21 before they got the kid from Jersey back.
You got 20 living people under there.
if these deals are going to be signed and it's really going to be a peace, like you got to get those 20 people out.
There cannot be a peace while Israel still has people there.
No, no nation would put up with that, right?
If Turkey and Greece were warring and Turkey stole 20 Greek people and put them somewhere under Istanbul, Greek Greece would not sign a peace deal.
So no nation would be asked to do this except for Israel.
So I think part of it, But I just want to put it into the ether that America stands for justice and there has to be justice.
People have to pay for violating Israel's borders and killing its civilians.
That's a war crime.
And they never mention it, but it is a war crime.
Well, that's why when I see some of these morons like Dave Smith or some of these guys that become really popular just obsessively focusing on Israel, yet doesn't have any opinions on India and Pakistan or anything else in the world.
It's like, what would you do?
What would you do if your wife was murdered, your daughter was raped, and your son was kidnapped?
And then as that was happening...
Well, they know what they'd do.
They damn well know what they would do.
But the Jew can't do what they would do.
It's a horrible double standard business.
And it's also...
A way to negate all Jewish suffering and what that mindset that they're possessed of has done to Jewish people.
It's like, well, what it is in short hand is, well, where's your God?
Doesn't your religion and your...
It's like, well, where's your God?
And now you're doing what we did to you?
Well, aren't you better than us?
Doesn't your God save you?
And as they grind the jackboot, you're facing the dirt.
But it is so evil and so ghoulish.
And they don't even see it.
But I do.
Don't you?
Don't you see the ghoul?
Yeah.
Well, it's kind of like, oh, you think you're the chosen people.
Yeah, it is that.
That's not what the chosen people means at all.
No.
But it's kind of like, oh, you think you're the chosen people?
We'll see.
The chosen people means we go.
Everywhere we go, we take over that government.
That's what the chosen people means.
You're not supposed to say that on a podcast.
But that's what chosen, supremacist means.
Imperialist, supremacist, colonist.
That's what it means.
We come from the Arabian Peninsula, and then we kill everybody in Medina, take that over, kill everybody in the Levant every try.
It took me a second, Roseanne.
You got it still.
Then we go to Europe, we take that over, we go to the UK.
You're right.
We're chosen.
Yeah, yeah.
See, you took me on a little adventure there.
Akbar, our God above all else.
What did they say there?
Uber mentioned the rest of your Uber mentioned.
Yeah.
You know, Hitler loved Islam.
Yeah.
And they loved him and they still do.
I mean, there's literally a store in Gaza called Hitler.
It's a clothing store.
I know.
Yeah.
What do you think of Kanye's new hit?
Is that where you got your...
What are you thinking?
Kanye's new jam.
Oh, God.
You know, look, he's...
Obviously not well.
I don't care.
I don't care in a sense.
He's just...
I like Frank Sinatra and I like Frankie Valli.
I like only musicians with the name Frank, basically.
So that's what I like.
Zappa.
And I like jazz.
I like Frank Zappa.
I like jazz.
I like chill stations.
So I don't care for his music.
I don't care for rap.
What would be the most Kanye song at the height of Kanye 20 years ago before he went crazy?
Bull Digger.
Bull Digger, right?
Yeah, I was like, okay, that's a song, but it's just not my thing.
So here's a guy who's an artist who's probably bipolar, who's also a troll, who has – No, he's definitely a troll.
Who's then mastered like – You know, what he's trying to do basically is he basically wants to be God in a sense and just be God of the world, right?
He wants to be his own God and God of the world.
And what that does is he's just looking at anything that he can burn down and burn it down.
What he may find on the other side of that is you're going to end up burning down a lot of good stuff too because for as screwy and backwards and crazy as this country can be, like, it's been pretty damn good for an awful lot of people forever.
Yeah.
Probably came from Belarus or Poland or Lithuania or something.
All over the place.
Jews get around.
Exactly.
Right.
There's 40 years in the desert.
You learn how to kind of wander around a little bit.
If you're a great-great-grandmother, I remember once you were telling me a bit about your ancestors.
Do you remember when I was in LA, I went to some place and I found a sign from an old barn that was from somewhere up north in Cali and it was the bar.
Oh, yes.
I do remember that, yeah.
But it's like if your ancestors or my ancestors could look at our life and be like, whoa.
Like it would be unimaginable.
The level of success and freedom like would blow their freaking minds.
So this thing is so precious.
And the fact that it feels like it could just go away, like that's just so – It's crazy from 10 years ago where we were just like, oh, it's going to work.
It's always going to work.
Where now it's kind of like, Roseanne Barr has to move to the middle of nowhere, Texas, to build the life she wants because LA is in a meltdown.
My family at one point goes back to, I think, 1902 in New York City.
At points, there were hundreds of people on both sides of my family living in New York City.
We got one cousin left.
One cousin left.
That's it because everybody fled.
My sister...
It was the last real family there during COVID.
She, of course, moved to Florida.
It's like, so the world is just in a very, very strange position right now.
And the future of the country could just look very different.
It'll just be like, yeah, there's these horrifically broken cities and backwards places.
And then the places that have Jews.
No, literally.
It's the truth.
No, and that is the truth.
But I think Kanye's song should be number one.
Oh, Kanye, yeah.
And here's what I think.
I think they should play it everywhere where it says, Heil Hitler killed the Jews.
I hate the Jews.
But I think they should bleep out when he says the N-word.
That'll really flip them.
That'll really flip them.
Well, the funny thing is, it's so interesting how the language thing, and this is going to break too.
You want to know the next kind of cultural thing that's going to break?
You're going to see a lot of white people using the N-word.
Oh yeah, that's going to come.
You can feel it because if you think about it, so Kanye puts out this song and all these people are like, oh, Kanye has this song saying Heil Hitler and the N-word.
And it's like, oh, okay, so it's okay to say Heil Hitler, but you still can't say the N-word.
Symmetry doesn't work over time.
And then people who are thoughtful, not racist, are suddenly going to be like, well, words only have power if you give them power.
And then they're going to start saying it.
So Kanye, maybe that's what Kanye wanted to do.
He wanted to usher in white people saying the N-word.
I think he did, absolutely, because that's who he works for.
That's what Nazism is.
Oh, oh, oh.
I think you should write a rap song about the N-word.
I want to.
If anyone can do it, it's you, sister.
I say I never use the N-word unless I'm with my black friends.
Exactly.
But I do call my kids the N-word.
Yeah.
Well, look at the picture that you have right there.
That guy said it a couple times, and I don't think he thought you were racist.
The great Richard Pryor.
I was eight months pregnant, and Richard goes, I want you to sit on my lap, and he weighed about 60 pounds because he was dying.
And I said, I'm not sitting on you.
I'll break you.
And he goes, no, you won't.
Sit on my lap.
I want that picture.
So I did.
And look at his face.
It looks like, oh Christ, why did I tell her to sit on me?
He died three hours later, too.
Can I ask you a question?
Because I know we're truncated time.
You said, when we said, what are we going to do?
You said, I have a strategy.
I tweeted something this morning and I never got to it.
Oh yeah, let's go to your strategy.
To me, the strategy is, and this is what Trump said during the election, which is that his revenge will be success, right?
And I think that's the answer.
That if you want to stop whatever these lunatics are doing and this endless Jew thing and whatever is brewing on the right, well, the better America is doing, the better the world feels, the better the economy is doing and everything else, the crazier they'll seem.
So, like, I don't want to get into it.
Big time on him.
But Tucker, who to me has gone off the deep end.
Yeah, me too.
And I'm so sad.
So I would say...
I still love him.
No, and I like him.
We texted last week.
I was trying to broker a little peace between him and Ben.
I always try to send him Torah things to set him straight.
And he always thanks me.
But, you know, Tucker, you're going the wrong way.
God is a Zionist.
He said, go to Zion.
Hello.
And by the way, he always says he likes Israel.
I mean, he always says that as he's criticizing Israel and criticizing Jews and whatever.
Well, I criticize Israel like Bibi's an idiot and their government's fucked.
And so, you know, I criticize them all the time.
But, you know, I don't go, therefore they shouldn't exist.
That's the red line.
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Well, of course.
But so what I would say about someone like Tucker, and I only bring him up just as, I'm just using him as like a placeholder here, is that if you want him to stop doing whatever it is that he seems to be doing, that we all kind of see that feels gross, the best way to do it...
Is to have America succeed.
So on my show, so Phoenix is my producer here, what we do every day on the show is talk about American success.
We talk about all of the good things.
I don't want everybody, and this is how I genuinely feel, but I also think it's a good tactic.
It's like if people start looking around and they're like, boy, Trump came in and we did close the border and we are getting the fentanyl off the streets.
And you know what?
Inflation is down.
And yeah, we are getting better trade deals.
Oh, and they're chopping off less kids' genitals.
And that could be Tucker right now.
He's not happy with us.
With guitar.
If you basically just show people, boy, we almost ended it.
That's how fucking close we were.
Yeah, we were.
We were this close.
Exactly.
And it's like, but we didn't.
And things are really good.
To me, that's the best force field against this thing.
Because then, for all the guys, and I don't mean this about Tucker, but for whatever that crew is that is just doing this, oh my god, every day we're going to unearth history and Churchill's bad and all these things, it'll just feel crazy to people.
People will be like, well, wait a minute.
Things are actually pretty good in my life.
That's a good point.
My kids can go to school again without having their nuts cut off and blah, blah, blah.
Like, that is the thing.
Like, it's a low bar.
Yeah, no shit.
It's a low bar.
No shit.
But a lot of the Jew hate is when people do struggle economically.
That's when it really starts gaining power because the Jews are making me poor and work my shift at Walmart.
Inflation's up.
Time to hate the Jews again.
Right.
So look, success is good for everybody.
And that's why I think that's why Trump is so good.
Trump cares about success.
Yes.
I was at the University of Austin.
And I was like, Trump, you know, 10 years ago when the trans thing started, remember they asked Trump before he was president, they asked him about it, and he was like...
This was just his off-the-cuff answer.
He was like, you know, I build hotels.
If you tell me I can put one bathroom in the lobby, I'll be thrilled.
Like, that's Trump.
And that actually is America, too.
We don't really care who you marry or what you wear or any of that shit.
But if you break everything else, then people really start focusing on that crazy shit.
Or leave us alone.
Leave our children alone.
Do what you don't.
Leave us alone.
Right, exactly.
Don't bring the kids into it.
You're a fat fuck and you need to go on a diet.
That'll solve 90% of your stress.
No, it really will.
Most trans issues have to do with trans fats.
I do.
It's margarine.
This is all margarine related.
I do.
Who knows what we eat makes us not know what sex we are.
That's like Alex Jones was saying.
You lick the toads, you become gay.
I never licked a toad, though.
No, I never looked a toad either, but it's true.
You know what's in a tomato is fish DNA is in a tomato now to make it look shiny.
GMOs and shit.
They fucked with everything.
Oh, man.
No wonder you're on 30 Acres.
Are you just growing all your own food now?
Yeah, we're going to try.
I did that in Hawaii, too.
Yeah, no, I remember.
Because that's really the battleground is food, I think.
I think that show was great, by the way.
Thank you.
I really loved it.
And that was before we knew each other.
That's what you were doing right before that.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought it was great, too.
I thought it was so much fun just to see you out of the box.
It was fun.
Now I'm doing a new show, you know.
What are you doing?
I'll send it to you.
Top secret.
Oh.
I'm doing a new show and it's so funny because it's about God.
Here's my advice to the world and especially to Jews.
You've got to bring more God into it because there's no way out without God.
That's my opinion as a Jew.
We've got to get more God into it and stop thinking we are smarter than God.
That's our downfall.
And I think that's why people...
Are mad at the Jews because you're not talking about God enough.
I think that's right.
I think that's right.
I really do.
I toured with Jordan Peterson for a year and a half.
I love him.
And even though Jordan was mostly doing things, it was interesting with Jordan because he does a lot of stuff from a purely secular, scientific perspective because he's a psychologist, a psychiatrist.
But then he also obviously is bringing in all of the...
The biblical stories and all those things.
So he does both things.
He's like, you know, sit up straight with your shoulders back, clean your room.
That's kind of secular.
But then it's also like he's connecting the story of Abraham.
Why did he leave the tent as an old man to go on the adventure of life?
So then he brings in all this biblical stuff.
And I think you're completely right about this.
Jews, for some reason, except for Orthodox Jews, but that's not what...
Sort of scales at a cultural level.
Yeah, they're crazy.
Well, they're crazy or they have their beliefs and they keep it to themselves and that's it.
But like in a secular sense, like I do think it would be good for, I think in general it would be good for people to talk about their relationship with God more.
It doesn't mean you have to force people to believe what you believe or bow to you or your God.
But I think talking about it a little bit more, because otherwise we just get left with all of the crazy shit.
You literally have a five-year-old that one day is like, okay, I'm a girl.
We're like, okay, let's chemically castrate you because why the hell not?
So there is something there that has to kind of synthesize.
Especially for Jews.
That's what we're about.
That's why we are what we are.
Is that why we're celebrating all these holidays with the marginal food?
Yeah.
That's why.
I mean, that is it.
It's going on.
They almost killed us again.
God helped us out.
Let's eat.
Because we turned back to him.
That's why he saved us.
So I think that that's where we're at in history.
Well, we've got to turn back and open our eyes and realize it's really not about us.
It's about him.
And that's a big ego lesson for Jews, but it's one that we have to embrace because it's bigger than us.
And I think that's why there is anti-Semitism, because we're not talking enough about that.
That's what we're here for.
Do you think it's crazy?
If I was talking to a 1989 Roseanne and was like, this is where you're going to be in 2025, talking about this stuff, doing this stuff, living here, do you think you would even remotely believe that?
Yeah, because I knew when I was three that I was going to have my own TV show.
I didn't know that the Nazis were going to take it away from me.
Twice, basically.
But I knew I was going to...
I wanted to talk about love in my show and funny stuff.
And I knew I was going to face...
I knew I was going to be like Daniel in the lion's den.
But I knew that I was going to win.
And I knew that I was going to come out talking about a larger truth, which is big love.
That it's our weapon.
That nothing can touch it.
That it is...
Almighty, powerful.
And it's how we fight.
Because we love God.
And that's our strength.
And that's our protection.
And that's why we've lasted these 4,000 years.
Because we love Him.
And He loves us in return.
But if we don't love Him, why should He give a damn about us?
Yeah.
Well, it's a two-way street.
Yeah.
And that's the funny thing with you.
It's like, so now you're around all these right-wing...
You know, these right-wing crazy people, and people are like, Roseanne is a conservative or a right-winger, and it's like, I remember, literally, you'll probably know the year, I remember watching Roseanne when you had literally the first gay kiss ever on television, Mariel Hemingway, yeah.
Do you remember what year that was?
Maybe 90s, something like that?
No, something.
Yeah, something around there.
Early 90s, yeah.
So in that sense, you were...
The best kind of progressive, because you were showing people what equality actually is, and that there are these people who may be a little different than us, but they deserve respect, and you did that with Sandra Bernhardt's character as well.
You did all of this stuff for true, actual equality and liberalism, and then flash all these years later.
And my reboot coming back was the most progressive thing that was ever on TV, because we had Muslim Neighbors, and I got all these awards.
The tweet...
I knew that was not going to last.
Yeah, I knew they bought me every...
Oh my God.
They were pissed.
Louis C.K. called me and goes, you hit every target.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
But the idea that somehow they wanted to frame you as racist.
Yeah.
And I remember tweeting about it like that day.
I was like, look, ABC can do whatever the fuck they want.
Like, I can't tell them what to do.
But the idea...
That you somehow were magically racist.
Just putting aside knowing you as a person.
Just like if you were to like look at your body of work.
Yeah.
Of the people you were talking to for literally four decades or three decades or something before that.
That somehow, yes, you really thought Valerie Jarrett was a monkey.
Like, it was so fucking insane.
But that was the height.
In some ways, that might have been the pinnacle.
Maybe not quite the pinnacle, but it was getting pretty close to the pinnacle of the true lunacy of cancel culture.
You were pretty much right in there.
It was the big-ass beginning of it.
Right, it wasn't the pinnacle.
It was still on the way up.
Yeah, it was just before the 2018 midterm.
Right, it was before COVID, yeah.
And they were like, we can't have her around because we're going to launch COVID and steal the 2020 election, and she'll tell everybody not to get the shots, and we've got to get rid of her.
But in retrospect, isn't it insane that they even let you back in in the first place?
That's what I always said.
Because that's why I knew.
I didn't know you were going to tweet about Valerie Jarrett.
But I was just like, I know Roseanne well enough at this point that the idea she's going to be on this sitcom set and be able to control it enough.
And I had just seen you.
I know, right?
You did a couple guest shots on that show.
Cristal?
Yeah, Christina.
Christina.
And you brought me there once and I watched you there.
And I just remember thinking, like, what you were doing on that set was so wildly different than the woman that I know.
I was like, there is no way this can work.
Putting aside the tweet and everything else.
I was like, they can't control her.
Yeah.
Well...
They thought they could.
But at least the other people kept going with the show and got some money off it.
Well, yeah.
I mean, they made it work for them.
Silver lining.
They made it work for them.
But I think that, you know, why I did it and what it meant, I was waiting.
I thought it would only be a year before everyone would understand what it meant.
And now it's like into the eighth year and they're just starting to understand.
Wait, is it still on?
It just wrapped.
Oh, it just wrapped.
No, but I'm talking about my tweet.
We're in the eighth year of that.
Oh, I thought you meant the eighth year of the sitcom.
No, it went on for seven years.
It just wrapped a month ago.
That's crazy.
I didn't even know it was on either.
But the eighth year of the tweet, and just now, it took eight years, and people are just now going, oh, I get what you mean.
Because I said, no, it's about Iran.
Yeah.
And so now they're just starting to say, oh, Muslim Brotherhood and Iran and, you know, Planet of the Apes.
Because Planet of the Apes, which I always say, and people are like, huh?
The Jews are white people, you know.
But Planet of the Apes, Rod Serling himself, who wrote it, said, the apes are the Jews in Germany.
And I love just last week.
The Muslims came out and said, as they do believe that Jews are evolved from, you know, Jews are apes.
Yeah.
And dogs.
Mehdi Hassan, the guy who used to work on MSNBC, he's on video saying that.
They do believe we're apes.
And Planet of the Apes was about the fascist crackdown on Jews in Germany.
Yeah.
I just rewatched the first three.
And Planet of the Apes is the very same thing.
Iran's...
Bankrolling October 7th.
And that's what I meant.
And it happened.
And so, you know, they would reduce it down to saying, she said black people looks like a monkey.
I mean, that's how fucking stupid and evil they are.
But I was right, and it was a prophecy for the dark.
But now it's like, well, it was all exposed.
Obama is the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Valerie Jarrett's his brain.
They can all go fuck their self because Trump got back in and Iran, amazingly, has gone Christian and they're not going to put up with that shit.
That's the crazy part, is that the mullahs only have a certain amount of time.
Remember during Obama, you're right, when they were having major, major uprisings, and Obama basically wouldn't say a word because he kind of wanted them to be installed there, but they could fall at any minute.
That's the beauty.
You know, in the end, all of these people that hate Israel right now, if we get to some kind of peace thing, even if it's only a 7 out of 10 year situation, they're all going to owe Israel because Israel took out Hezbollah, so that freed Lebanon.
Israel basically, even though it was the U.S. The Lebanese thanked them, like the Druze.
The Lebanese, which used to be, I think it was 85% Christian, which is now, I think, about 30% Christian.
Because they killed them.
They got rid of the Houthis, in essence.
It will be because Israel stood up to this, took out the Iranian proxies, that Iran either will fold or will be forced to kneel one way or another.
So that's, again, why I just think there's some wins here, if everyone just takes a breath.
There are some big wins, because the biggest win, of course, is that Trump Yeah.
And, you know, I pray for him every day that he'll stay true to what God puts in his head and he doesn't let anybody flatter him out of it.
Because, you know, he loves flattering.
That's my concern.
But, you know, I hope he stays strong and that God talks loudly in his head and his heart and his ear.
Because he does have, I think, he has the potential to...
Change everything in the world.
And it is as simple as, just leave the Jews alone.
Yeah.
And you can have everything.
Wouldn't that...
That's a good line.
And that's kind of what he said, actually, in the speech.
He basically was like, if you guys want...
He didn't want to just make it about Israel.
So I don't even know that he said...
Did he even say Israel once?
I'm not even sure.
I think he did to Saudi Arabia.
Oh, maybe once.
But the implication really was...
If you guys just want this to stop, it's just up to you.
Just stop hating these guys.
You're not going to kill another 8 million Jews and then the 2 million Arabs that live there too.
It's just not going to happen.
So just get over that.
I know it would be tough and you're going to have to go home and tell your wife you're not killing the Jews anymore.
But if you just do that, they're not going to.
So yeah, it's probably a 7 to 10 year thing.
Wait, can we talk about something else for just a second?
I know we're super tight.
Really, it's so good seeing you.
It's so good seeing you too.
I just think you'll love this story.
I had David Zucker on a couple weeks ago.
Oh yeah, he's funny.
He's the creator of Airplane and Naked Gun and Scary Movie and all those things.
To me, he's probably the greatest comedy writer of all time.
He really is.
We've become friends.
Like-minded politically, even though we didn't talk about that much politics stuff.
Yeah, and he basically has been blackballed from the industry because he did a video with PragerU and so you'll see why you love the story.
Anyway, so you know they're rebooting Naked Gun and it's coming out August 1st.
Did you see this?
Now!
So they're rebooting Naked Gun and guess who's playing Leslie Nielsen?
A black woman.
Not you.
Black Leslie.
No, it's not me.
Liam Neeson.
Oh, that's good.
So that is...
It actually feels kind of good, right?
Because it's sort of like...
Is he involved in it?
Leslie was only serious until Airplane, right?
So it's a kind of similar thing.
Liam is now like the serious...
He can do it too.
He can do that witty, serious, straight man thing.
Is Zucker involved?
Is he involved in that?
No, so this is why I'm telling you the story.
So it's coming out August 1st.
I think it's Paramount.
When they decided to do it, he wrote the script with Pat Proft and his brother.
Oh, cool.
I love Pat Proft.
Yeah.
Like, brilliant.
That's funny.
You know, a lot of times with David now, I'll quote something from Airplane or from Naked Gun.
And almost every time, he's like, I can't take credit for that.
That was Pat.
That was Pat, who was a comic.
I didn't know he was a standout before that.
Yeah.
Anyway, he wrote the script.
The three of them wrote the script.
And I think it's Paramount.
Maybe it's Warner Brothers.
They didn't want to work with them.
Either because of politics or he's 77 now, he's too old, whatever it is.
So they gave it to Seth MacFarlane.
Seth MacFarlane.
Oh, that's great.
Except that he's kind of woke, he's kind of part of the machine, blah, blah, blah.
So anyway, David gave me the script, the real script to the rebooted.
Naked Gun, and it's fucking hilarious.
Oh, boy.
And he wants to make it.
Let's do it.
He wants to make it, but it can't be called Naked Gun because they're making Naked Gun.
It's coming out in two months.
But I read it, and it's amazing, and I want to help him make the real Naked Gun.
Can we help with that?
Yeah, yeah.
I want to be in on it.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm going to talk to him.
We'll get you the script, and you should read it.
I mean, I read it on a plane, and I was hysterically laughing for an hour, and I was sitting next to this Swedish shirt.
I don't know, Finnish woman next to me.
What do you read?
What do you read?
I was crying laughing.
Oh, I love that so much.
It was just so beautiful.
The OJ stuff.
Oh my god, I've got to have you read my script.
I'm doing six of them.
Six?
Six episodes.
Of The God Show.
Yeah, it's not really a God show.
How are you doing a scripted show at this point?
Come on, how are you doing a scripted show?
Independently.
It's top secret.
I own it and I'm doing it all myself.
No, but I mean, how do you stick to a script?
Oh, I have a cattle prod in Thorazine.
I'm a Jewish handler.
Because it's everything I always wanted to do.
Yeah, it's good.
But they wouldn't let me do.
And it's really funny.
I think it's the funniest stuff I've ever done.
I have to agree.
I'm doing it with people that work.
For Adam Sandler's show.
They made all his movies.
And my old writing partner from Roseanne.
And it's really funny.
It's about a family of preppers.
Ah, that's a great idea.
Say no more.
I mean, it's basically, clearly it's taking place here.
Kind of in Hawaii.
We don't grow fruit here.
We go to fucking Jersey Mike's and get sandwiches.
No, that's funny.
But in Hawaii, I was a prepper.
So I put all that in it.
I'm going to send it to you.
You'll give me your opinion, right?
Yeah, of course.
It's so funny and ridiculous.
But anyway, we're wrapping up because we went over our time.
I know.
If I didn't have 20, I'm doing, you know, Austin's like the podcast capital of the world right now.
So I'm doing like 20 shows today.
Thank you for coming out here.
I know it's like an hour drive either way.
Thank you so much.
It's really great to see you guys.
But I want to wrap it up like this.
I remember sitting there with you and going, we have to fight.
And we did.
And you did.
And look it.
And now here we are again, ground zero.
We have to fight smart.
We have to talk about God.
And here we go again, right?
Round two.
If it doesn't work out this time, we're going to do this in 10 years from now.
And it's going to be way more remote than this.
Yeah, in a camp.
Oh, right.
Exactly.
We'll be in the gulag together.
So it's either gulag together or basically...
Now we'll be in the tunnel somewhere.
Well, that's a dark ending.
Now we'll be sitting on top of...
We'll be sitting on top of...
Masada with us.
Yes.
We'll be on the Temple Mount and it'll just be all shiny and there'll be peace and love all over the earth in 10 years.
What do you say, Dave?
You should really save that one.
I thought you were going to say pile of ashes.
I love you, Dave.
I love you.
It's really great to see you.
So you see...
Oh, you see...
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