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Sept. 28, 2024 - The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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Nicole Shanahan is BASED AF | The Roseanne Barr Episode #67
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Well, Mom, we are in Fort Worth.
You just did your Tucker, and it was pretty impressive.
It was so fun.
You really laid a lot of shit out there.
There was times where I was scared we were going to have to be ushered out because you were getting real loud and preachy, and there was 13,000 people in there, but they just fucking loved you, and it was amazing.
It was amazing for me to watch, so I'm very proud of you.
I love them, too.
They don't even know how much I loved them.
No, it was amazing.
Anyway, we're here in Fort Worth.
This episode with Nicole Shanahan is amazing.
I've already edited it.
Mom, you haven't seen it yet?
It's just great.
It's one of my favorites.
Well, you remember being there, but it's so good.
The story of this episode is watching two very intelligent women who were former Democrats become awake and telling their story.
It's really good.
I highly recommend it.
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It's a what, Mom?
Bang, bang, banger.
Greetings, earthlings and humans, doppelgangers, clones, what have you.
I don't know where you're from or who you are, but welcome.
And, of course, to all animals who are intrigued and magnified to the sound of my voice over this podcast.
People have sent me so many beautiful videos of their animals loving on my voice because animals are smarter than humans, as we all know.
And they are thrilled to know that at last, at long last, a voice of sanity has pierced this realm of unified bullshit.
Welcome to the Roseanne Barr Podcast.
Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.
Today's show is a buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh.
Banger, again, because as you know, I only like to talk to geniuses, and I have a genius on today, a woman genius, which is very intriguing and very interesting.
I've been talking to a lot of men geniuses, haven't I, Jake?
Yeah. But now we've got a real woman genius on today, Nicole Shanahan.
Hi, Nicole.
Hi, Roseanne.
Happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you for coming.
I don't know where to start with you.
For one, well, I guess I should say you are Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s vice presidential pick.
You're running whatever's going on with you guys.
You're the vice president.
It's definitely the least straightforward partner.
Well, the partnership's straightforward, but where we are in this election is not so straightforward.
Happy to unpack any bit of details about how we got here, but I'm really proud of where we are.
We decided to unify in partnership with Donald Trump.
We've suspended our campaign in every swing state and most other states.
Still on the ballot in California, so if you're in California, you can vote for us.
But it's been a really interesting learning experience.
We're both former Democrats.
We both cared very deeply about this country.
And we ran an honest campaign in a dishonest race.
Yes, you did.
And boy, did you...
You know, everybody calls it the Great Awakening, you know?
Yeah. And it's because I think...
Yeah. Right?
really lie.
You can't hold, I mean, you can for a time, and you can't really control the narrative as much as the left would love to think they do.
Yeah. Right?
Yeah. And, you know, that's been a big learning experience for me because I'm from California.
I come from that intellectual left world where many people still believe what CNN says is gospel.
People in my family do.
Yeah. And the learning experience, I think it wasn't just for Bobby and I to see what the media did with us and our narrative.
But we have millions of people who wanted to see this campaign successful, who wanted to see Bobby Kennedy as the first independent president in our lifetime and on track to do it.
I think we all learned, and I think they made a grave mistake.
I think the left-wing media made a grave mistake in how they treated our campaign.
Absolutely. Because it woke up a lot of people who they still kind of had grips on.
They had grips on because...
You know, people don't want to believe that our country is in such hiatus.
People don't know how to believe on the left or in the center some of the things Donald Trump says about our country.
They want more information, but sometimes when it comes out of Donald Trump's mouth, it's hard for a lot of Americans to view that as the end truth.
And so then they look to the sophistication of CNN or MSNBC and the polish there, and they say, That looks like it might be the truth.
And the reality is, I think that former Democrats are going to be the ones that are going to help really explain how we got to where we are today.
They're going to be the unifiers of this country, I think.
That's what I think.
Right, Jake?
I've said that for a long time.
I said, as they wake up and see, like I did, they'll know where...
All the building, all the hope of the working people of this country, it lies on this side right now.
You know, it did a big flip.
I want to ask you so many things.
I know you know what you're talking about when you talk about, you know, you were in the upper crust of the leftist gestalt.
I was too.
I ran for president as a socialist on the Peace and Freedom Party in 2012.
Because my idol, Dick Gregory, had done the same years before.
So I was kind of a hailed hero of the left and their narrative, which some of it I wrote and they're still repeating it, which drives me out of my mind.
And it's hence on 25 years later and they're still saying the same stuff that's failed over and over.
Do grift the money.
They're real good at grifting the public money out of their special programs that no poor people ever get the benefit of.
No, it goes to a select few that really play into these very odd narratives.
And look, I came in well-intentioned, good faith actor, and I said...
Criminal justice reform in 2013, 2014, I wanted to go in and really fix our criminal justice system.
But I wanted to fix the system itself, the broken databases, the sitting around in prisons too long, the lack of accountability.
And so...
Being convicted with...
Tampered evidence.
Tampered evidence or, you know, nonviolent marijuana charges.
I mean, there's so much about our criminal justice system that we could have fixed, that we had the opportunity to fix.
And there was good people in the field in 2014 and 2015, and then something happened.
Something happened after 2016 to this country.
A lot of us are talking about it.
A lot of us are feeling it.
But my personal experience was that it went from qualified discussion on how to evolve this country in a good, honest direction to effectively what I see now as it is...
It is the destruction of this country.
Absolutely. And it's the entitled destruction of the country out of fear, anger, and vitriol.
Right. And that has actually left everybody worse.
It has left especially minority communities worse off.
And I'll share an anecdote with you.
And I just have to say, that's not any accident.
I feel like it was all.
It's a social experiment.
You're probably right.
I'm putting the pieces together still myself.
But one example is that I became very passionate about fixing the food supply chain for low-income communities.
I was like, young kids in these communities, we've got to get them healthy.
Right. That's number one.
As a mom, you know, number one, kid has to be healthy.
Kid has to feel strong.
Right. Kid has to be able to sit in class for eight hours a day.
Right. And learn.
And learn.
And be open to learning.
And the only way we're going to do that, you've got to start in the gut.
They have to feel satiated, full, and loved from the belly.
Yeah. Those are the basic needs of the human being.
Yeah. And so I, you know...
Four years ago pivoted and I said, we're going to work on the American heartland.
We're going to solve these food deserts to these communities.
And I'd be in the room.
Nobody wanted to talk about it.
Nobody wanted to talk about it.
That's what happened when I ran for president too.
They didn't want to talk, but this was 2012.
I saw the change happen.
Well, I take it all back to the Patriot Act.
Yeah. When they passed that, it was all...
Or 9-11, sorry.
Yeah, 9-11.
Then it all slowly started moving towards an authoritarian state.
Yeah. More and more and more.
And then they made corporations human.
And, you know, just everything they did to...
That was Reagan, actually.
Well, I'm just saying it became more and more as it went along.
I just saw like, you know, everything moving towards taking rights away from the regular people and all people.
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It was a peculiar class war.
A peculiar is the right word.
You know, I come from low-income Oakland.
I spent years on government assistance.
My mom was trying to finish school while raising us.
My dad was not doing well, a lot of mental health issues, couldn't keep a job.
My community was a low-income Oakland community, you know, diverse as you can imagine in terms of race.
But all of us were poor.
That was my story too in Utah.
Yeah. And so you know, right, what it takes to get out of poverty, right?
You need food and you need some good education and you need to have the gusto to go out there and get work.
Right. And so I'm looking at our country and I'm like, let's do this.
I run a foundation.
There's hundreds of millions of dollars in my foundation.
Go out there, let's really set this up and help people figure out how to get good food, because that's step one.
That's why I wonder, like, the biggest job we should have in this country is getting the food to the hungry, particularly the hungry children.
We can't even solve that damn problem, so why are we looking all over the world to solve other ones?
Well, how is it that of the hundreds of millions of dollars that have gone into...
Black Lives Matter, criminal justice reform, virtually none of it has resulted in helping these kids fill their bellies up.
None of it.
None of it.
That's a crime.
Where is it going?
I'll tell you.
$6 million to buy a building in Oakland for these anti-racist groups.
I funded that.
They were like, well, we need a building so that people can come in and we can help them get back on their feet.
I'm like, okay, this doesn't make sense, but this is what the experts are telling me.
All right, we'll fund it.
A $6 million building in Oakland for these people not from Oakland.
Many of them are...
White and disconnected with the community, but they're the experts, and they are going to turn this around for the local community.
And then, you know, these re-grant programs.
So there's all these re-grant programs as well, where you, like, fund one organization, and then they distribute it to all these, quote, grassroots organizations.
And I'm like, well, what are they doing?
Well, they're doing advocacy.
They're activists.
Yeah, activists.
And I'm like...
Okay, but what are they actually doing?
And you see this in climate too.
And I got infuriated with it.
I was like, the world doesn't need more climate activists.
It needs really bright people figuring out how to farm to put the carbon living in the ground, which sequesters it and brings back these beautiful natural ecosystems.
So something is, it's either one giant...
Embezzlement money laundering scheme.
Grift. That's it.
Grift. Or it's something, it's a personality disorder among some of these folks too, where they don't feel good about themselves unless they're somehow slapping on a label,
raising millions of dollars from wealthy people, and then writing one or two checks to...
Somebody of darker skin color, but it's not working.
No, they don't want it to work.
This model is not working.
They don't want it to work.
That's what I figured out why I was so disillusioned myself, and that's exactly what I found out.
How could you not want it to work, though?
If you really cared, how can you continue to hold up a system that's making these people worse off?
Because that's what I've seen.
I know, I have too.
It's heartbreaking.
Because they don't care.
They only care about power and therefore money.
I think they care about power over other people because they have no power from within to change their lives or their mind or to create anything.
So it's got to be exercised as power over people and I think they get big thrills out of them.
And I do think they're psychopaths for the most part.
They're unfeeling people with no empathy.
But how they do that is everybody's kissing their ass all the time.
And I know because I've been around them.
And it's kissing their ass all the time and telling them what great things they've done.
They have never stepped over a person going through drug addiction on the street.
They've never not stepped over, you mean?
Yeah, or felt anything about it.
They just went, well, you know, some of my millions I gave will help him, I guess.
They've put a veil over their eyes to separate themselves from human beings.
They think human beings are stinky and awful and hairy.
And they're like, we've got to get rid of them.
You know, we'll just have machines.
Some of them we'll have, like, you know, that can serve us food and stuff and clean our house and raise our kids and all that and do our laundry and, you know, that.
We'll keep some of them if they're good looking.
But those fat people that vote down there in the heartland and have bad dental health and they vote Trump and stuff, they've got to go.
They read the Bible for God's sake.
That's how Neanderthal they are.
And they've got guns.
Reading the Bible, having guns?
What the hell?
They've got to go.
Well, so it dawned on me because the kids I grew up with, The African-American kids that I grew up with, friends of mine, high school buddies, my community, the ones that stayed in Oakland just seemed to suffer more than the ones that came out to Georgia or Texas,
started their families out here.
I'd go on social media just to check in on my friends.
And then it's a noticeable difference.
There's a different look in the eye of being a black person who grew up in Oakland, who left California to go out to Texas, got a degree, went to law school in many cases.
Got a great job.
Got a nice house.
Can't afford a house out here in Texas.
It's like three, four bedroom house.
Can't afford that house in Oakland.
And many of the people who stayed in Oakland got caught up in these social activists, social justice, signaling cycles.
And when you get caught up in that, you can't live your life.
No. You can't live your life for the reason.
Or you have no life, and you have no self either.
You're just living propaganda.
You're a parrot.
You're living propaganda.
And I hate seeing my community treated like that.
I hate it.
I have a visceral reaction to seeing these Yale-educated people coming into my hometown and treating my community as props.
Me too.
It breaks my heart.
It breaks my heart, too.
Yeah. It's behind everything I do.
Their arrogance towards people I grew up with, it just breaks my heart, and that's why I fight.
But it's so heartbreaking to see it happen and them not get it.
I get so mad.
I'm like, can't you see?
You're just being farmed.
You're being farmed so you can't leave.
You can't grow.
You can't be free.
They want you there.
To just foment hate.
And it makes me so mad when I see that those kids are being paid to do that street, you know, to be the street gangs like Hitler had.
You know, they're being paid, Antifa and them.
And I got so mad because I go, why can't they give them a good job with the benefits and a future with that money that George Soros gives them?
Why can't they have a job with a future and some benefits so they can live?
Why are you doing that to them?
It gets their own better interests.
I know.
It's infuriating.
And it's made the work.
So why I had to leave all that behind is because I was in it trying to fight it.
Mm-hmm.
And you can't do that anymore.
And this has been my call, and this has been Bobby's call, but Bobby's coming from the health side of things.
They're doing it from the health side of things, too.
Well, that's the one that matters because, you know, all the kids with autism and all that stuff which they try to shut up, you know, try to not let us talk about.
I know.
These are the forbidden topics.
But they're the ones we have to talk about if we're going to see real change.
The kind of change that I know my progressive, good-hearted friends care about.
They want to see it, but they don't understand why everyone's so stuck.
They want to blame the right for that.
But it's not the right's fault.
You know, it's not at all.
It really takes leaving that psych, it's kind of this weird vacuum chamber of psychosis.
I know, because I was there, and you know, we both were there.
Yeah. It takes a big old cock on the head.
My sister and me used to say, it's the hammer to the head one, because my grandma said, my grandma used to say, they look, she had a thick Lithuanian accent, but she'd go, he looked like he got knocked.
In the head with a hammer like the cows we used to kill.
And she said that when you knock the cow in the head with the hammer, they go like this.
Yeah, that's the look.
She goes, that's what they need.
You know, they need the knock in the head.
Yeah. To go, wake up!
And I've tried so hard.
I try every single day of my life.
It's really hard.
To bring people over through logical conversation and sharing your own experience, Roseanne.
And I had to live it myself to really understand it.
And then I had to live it even more to be able to articulate it.
Yeah, I get it.
But now the big step is, you know, when you learn it and you got it, Jake, could you get me a drink?
I'm getting a smacky mouth.
You want water or what?
I'll take my other beverage.
Chardonnay, that is?
That's my water.
I want to be you when I grow up.
I want to be you when I grow up.
I haven't even gone into the fascinating life you've lived.
I love all your ideas.
I feel like we mind meld on a bunch of things, and I'm really excited past the fact of you being the vice president, you know, being chosen by...
You know, RFK Jr. to be his vice president, which is...
I mean, he's got the biggest genius mind in the world, and I see how you fit right in there with it.
It gives me hope for people who run for office in this country rather than just a bunch of, you know, money-hungry prostitutes that'll do anything that a lobbyist tells them to do against the people, but you're for the people, which is what I used to like about the Democrat Party,
but forget all that.
It's not our daddy's Democrat party anymore.
No, it's not.
But I'm so excited about you said you might run for governor of California and fix it.
We have to save that.
Are you ready to announce that?
No, but I'm so excited that you're even contemplating that because like we said outside, oh, it's just a small flick of a switch to fix things.
Really? Yeah, I've looked at the landscape in California and, you know, the last, I mean, Gavin Newsom somehow managed to run up a massive deficit for our state over, I think it's $60 billion now and counting.
And I'm appalled by the fact that we are...
You know, a top 10 economy of the world, the state of California.
Just the state itself is a top 10 economy of the world.
And we are, people are leaving the state right, left, and center because they can't handle how dirty it's gotten, how bad the water coming out of the tap has gotten, how the regulators are regulating people into smaller and smaller Blocks of how they can live their lives.
You can't have this kind of stove.
You can't do this kind of light bulb.
You're going to now get taxed on, we're going to redo your property tax whenever we want.
I mean, the furthest thing about a government for the people, it's the people are just told, you are lucky to be here in California and we can do whatever we want because it's the greatest state.
Is it kind of like the People's Republic of California?
Yeah. I mean, my mother's from the People's Republic of China.
So, you know, it's not there.
I want to be very respectful of words and titles.
I think that's really important right now that we do that so that we can focus on fixing things.
But do you think there's a danger that it's going that way?
Yeah, I think that the removal of rights from parents especially is troubling and alarming and definitely rings of Marxism.
If you look at all of these very Marxist controlling societies, you go after the kids.
You go after the education of the children.
You go after what parents can and cannot do for their children.
You take rights away from them.
And right now, we live in a state where...
There is a concerted effort to remove parental oversight of kids from vaccine mandates.
There's no exemptions.
In California, there's no religious exemptions even for vaccines in the public school system.
And then you also now with the transgender issues, they're trying to remove the consent and involvement of parents.
I can't believe that one.
It's terrifying.
Yeah, I mean, they're making parents out to be these horrible people to their own children.
I mean, how you could turn a young mind against their own parent.
That's step one.
It's a social experiment in Marxism.
It is socialist and Marxist and it's like, who are you going to pledge an allegiance to?
Well, if it's not the family, then it's going to be your, quote, educators.
And then if it's not, you know, the educators, it's going to be maybe your doctor, right?
Or somebody else in the system.
And then the next phase beyond that is the government.
But educators, many of these are employees of the government.
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So that's where I think going in and running on just common sense.
I'm a mom, just running as a common sense mom.
I'm an attorney, somebody who loves and respects the law, loves and respects the Constitution.
Loves and respects this country.
Where did you go to law school?
I went to Santa Clara in Silicon Valley.
So I'm like a very like Silicon Valley, Bay Area raised and educated person.
So your mom like really had to hustle to send you there, right?
Well, I did too.
I started working when I was 12 years old.
Oh, wow.
I bused tables and worked at restaurants.
Got my first unpaid internship when I was in college.
Just, you know, that's the American dream.
Yeah, it is the American dream.
This is what it's all about.
We got to remind kids that work is good.
Yeah. Even if it's shitty work.
I mean, sorry for my language, but even if it's hard work.
It's probably better if it's shitty hard work.
At least when you're young.
When you're young.
Yeah, it's better.
You don't want to cush job right now.
It trains your mind.
Yeah. It trains your mind.
And when you get that first paycheck, when you get that, it's the best feeling in the world.
And you earned that.
And you remember what that day was like when you earned that money.
And it's a good feeling.
Especially when you know, oh my God, I have begun to find a way out of poverty.
Isn't that the best feeling?
Best feeling in the world.
And that's why I fell in love with technology.
Originally, because my mom paid that $39.99 for AOL, and it changed my life.
It changed it.
I mean, I can still hear the dial up.
I can still remember logging online and being able to ask questions and have them answered.
Yeah, that was a mind-blower.
Mind-blowing.
And that's why I fell in love with that.
That was technology at its best.
It was this great...
Equalizer of information.
And that's what it was.
That was the soul of what this was all about.
And then it became a tool for control.
And I saw that happening too.
I mean, when I say 2016, things changed.
It changed in Silicon Valley.
Can we talk about that a little bit?
Yeah, I was going to ask her that to get there.
Because you married at the point in 2016, the co-founder of Google, right?
Was that around that time or no?
We met before that.
But you actually saw it.
I saw it.
You saw it firsthand.
Can you tell, like, what exactly did you see with the change?
Yeah, so in 2016...
Okay, so I met my ex-husband in 2014, but I was already at Stanford.
I was already in Silicon Valley.
I was building an AI business really early on.
I was building a more sophisticated large language model than Google even had at the time.
And I built it initially off of the patent.
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And it was this renaissance period because we saw AI.
We were doing AI very, very successfully.
And we knew exactly where this was all going to go.
Social media had minted a bunch of new millennial billionaires.
These were my friends.
We're in our 20s and there's millionaires and billionaires everywhere and everyone has these fancy cars and eating at the finest restaurants.
What generation had so many young, rich schmucks running around?
We were such idiots.
Rich idiots.
But it was everywhere.
And so, you know, no one really questioned that it could go sideways.
Yeah. But then 2016 happened.
And Mark Zuckerberg was blamed for the loss of Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.
Right. Oh.
Blamed. Oh, I didn't know that.
For ads on Facebook.
For like four ads.
Well, there was the Cambridge Analytica scandal.
There was Russiagate.
And this was made a massive deal of in Silicon Valley.
It changed everything.
It made everybody realize in the Valley that this little motley crew of wealthy millennial assholes were changing the entire landscape of geopolitics.
And everybody woke up.
It changed.
Everything got more serious.
Political fundraising changed.
It had to be all these tech founders were then going to create these massively sophisticated politically oriented groups.
And then it was deck after deck of proposals, of fund, you know, this path to winning.
There was like all these different...
Strategic arms using tech to figure out how to win elections.
And Mark Zuckerberg was made an example of for what never to do.
And he then became the poster boy of if your system is used to take down a Democratic candidate, you will be held accountable for it.
That's good, right?
At the time, I was like, well, this seems fine.
I mean, this all feels very serious.
I kind of missed the, you know, the being able to do tech, break things, move fast.
But the way that it was looked at in 2016 was that tech broke politics.
Okay. Well, that's true.
Yeah, that did happen.
I didn't think of it like that.
Because of fake news, right?
That was the big thing then?
This was before even this idea of fake news.
I mean, there was a lot.
The primary concern was that the primary narrative that we were sold was that Russia had infiltrated American elections through Facebook.
And did y'all believe that?
100% we believed it.
Okay. And it's somewhat true.
They did hack.
That is true.
There are, yeah.
So there's, there are.
But everybody hacks.
Yeah. I mean, there's, there's so many influences on the internet, but to blame that alone for Hillary Clinton's failure, I now believe is inaccurate.
Yeah. She paid for that.
Yeah. That report.
Yeah. Well, nobody liked her is another thing.
And that's the hard truth that the left just can't swallow is that she's fundamentally unlikable.
And I met her and I was like, she hates...
Her job.
I remember taking a picture with her and I was like, she was just seething that she had to do this in order to do military.
To be the first female president, how dare she have to stand here next to a young Silicon Valley.
Twerp. To get the White House.
And you could feel it.
There was no motivation or joy.
There was no excitement.
I mean, I was a huge Obama supporter when Obama ran.
I was inspired by him.
For what?
I was inspired by him because he was eloquent.
He was handsome.
He had this glitter in his eye.
Very charming.
Very charming.
Spoke of hope in ways that...
Were easy for me to digest as a young woman in her 20s.
I was a very young person.
And he was very influential.
And I was proud.
I was proud to see, you know, a black man of great capacity.
He seemed to have great capacity.
Little did I know he was, you know, very easily manipulated and turned into a puppet.
You know, irregardless of that, like, you know, going back to tech, I don't want to miss the point on that because it's an important one.
You said tech broke politics.
Tech broke politics and Silicon Valley was whipped into shape seemingly overnight.
And all of the freedoms that were once enjoyed there, the levity of it all started to dry up.
It became a very serious place.
Well, I mean, if it broke politics, you've got to feel the weight of that responsibility, right?
It wasn't just a big old party.
It changed everything.
It meant that everyone was looking at Silicon Valley to make sure it was PC.
Everyone was looking at Silicon Valley to make sure that whatever the liberal narrative was most represented.
Oh, I see.
Stanford and all of this new vernacular came out about misinformation and fake news.
Okay. And then all of a sudden...
So then they tried to regulate it.
And there's ways that they do that.
And that's when I realized that there was no coincidence that all of these big Democratic Party bundlers and tech people popped up at the same time that all of these new requirements,
social requirements around tech popped up.
It came hand in hand.
And politicians started showing up pretty much regularly.
There was like John Kerry, Chuck Schumer.
I mean, like the amount of activity of politicians coming to Silicon Valley.
There were all these new efforts to get Silicon Valley into Washington.
All of these ex-Googlers were plucked out of Silicon Valley and sent to Obama's White House.
Well, this was Obama, but that was the beginning of it.
And then it was Biden's White House.
And it started this whole new trend of, you know, we need Silicon Valley to shape up and to participate and to represent the Democratic Party.
That's exactly what happened.
Yeah. But it seems like it was cooking for a really long time.
Yeah, and Mike Benz, I don't know if you've come across Mike Benz.
He runs this free speech of the internet nonprofit.
He's excellent, and he's been tracking this very closely.
But there were these groups that popped up around Stanford, and he knows the history of Stanford very well.
So if you're watching this, check out Mike Benz.
Stanford has always been a place where the government has had...
Experiments on mind control victims and CIA MK Ultra mind control victims.
And they test on the kids.
Yeah, they do.
The kids of professors participate in these behavioral experiments.
Like there was this marshmallow impulse control study.
Where they had young kids, many of them kids of the professor, sitting there with a marshmallow in front of them and they'd leave the room and they'd be like, you know, trying to measure what kind of kid or what kind of personality would listen to instruction and what kind of kids didn't listen to instruction.
And guess who one of those kids were?
You. Not me.
I was too ghetto in Oakland.
Susan Wojcicki.
Oh, I wanted to ask you about her.
Susan Wojcicki, who then...
I mysteriously became the CEO of YouTube but was involved with Google long before then, whose garage just happened to be the garage that the Google co-founders used.
She was married to your first husband, right?
Her sister was married to my ex-husband.
And so I spent a lot of time with that family, had a chance to get to know them really well.
I like the family, but I think that one of the biggest challenges with this area in particular is that they have lost something so foundational to being human, which is the spontaneous,
loving experience.
I mean, you represented it on your show, like Middle Class America.
You've got to figure stuff out.
You're going to make mistakes.
It's okay.
But what the kids...
I grew up believing in Silicon Valley is that there's only one right way.
Yeah. Right?
And that compliance is really important.
You can experiment, you can test things and break things, but they have to be the things that are defined for you.
That's right.
That's kind of Chinese democracy.
Yeah. Isn't it?
It is, yeah.
It's actually very similar.
It's very similar.
That's what they remind me of when they're marching around in step and repeating the exact same narratives.
It's very frightening because, you know, we wanted our kids and our grandkids to be more free than we were.
That's why we tried so hard.
Yeah. And I see it taken away and then more and more controlled and giving up so easily.
Because one thing I found and I wonder...
I wonder if you found this too.
Privilege, you know, coming from, you know, poverty backgrounds in, you know, mixed neighborhoods, like we both said.
Privilege kind of messes with you.
It makes you blind and dumb and full of fear, doesn't it?
I mean, I didn't grow up with privilege.
No, but I'm saying once you see it.
Oh, yeah.
Because you didn't grow up with it, but then once you grow up and are allowed into that sphere, and then you see how in fear they are, and blind to the world, and kind of divorced from reality, it's like, man, you don't even know what in the hell's going on.
It's true.
There is this sense that you can build a bubble around your children in Silicon Valley.
And that the more tutors and more involvement you have in kind of shaping their worldview, the better they will be.
Yeah. But then why?
This is what drives me crazy.
This is probably off topic.
No, this is great.
But let me just say.
But why are they so hoodwinked and bamboozled?
Those are Malcolm X words.
Because when he's talking about, you know, that class of people, he's saying they're the worst enemy of the working class black people.
And they kind of are because they just lie.
Because they see the world as it isn't.
As they want it to be or imagine it should be, but as it isn't.
But that they can't figure out that bringing all these children, Across the border, you know, unaccompanied.
Yeah. And then they disappear, 800,000 of them.
Probably isn't a good thing to support if you're a mom who's talking about education and children and growing a good society.
That's kind of proving you're on, you're screwed up.
You've been, you're held captive is how I see it.
Yeah. You know, it's a really interesting thought experiment.
I'm sorry to use that word.
I think I spend too much time in Silicon Valley.
But the question I ask myself is, are the people of Silicon Valley the victims of something else?
Yeah. Or are they the perpetrators?
Or are they both?
I was just going to ask you that.
Right? And that's the question that I...
Am currently in the middle of trying to answer is, are these individuals part of a lineage of something that they're not even aware of, or maybe they're partially aware of and they just are acquiescing to?
Are they unknowingly perpetrating something evil?
Are they incapable of identifying evil?
Yeah, I get it.
And what are the mechanisms that have permitted this environment to succeed?
Right. Those are all great things to think about and discuss.
Was there funding early on in Silicon Valley from another government?
Oh, yeah.
NSA, DARPA, NSF.
So there's your answer.
Yeah, I mean, government has been...
Deeply involved in Stanford's operations for a really, really long time.
I was at a meeting several months ago, and I was walking in the dean's office, and I literally bumped into Condoleezza Rice.
There's government and Stanford really is the nucleus.
They've been in cahoots for a very, very long time.
And I think the history, and I'm just scratching the surface of it, but the history even goes back to the founder of Stanford who mysteriously was murdered.
Jane Stanford was murdered.
Still don't know who murdered her, but she was really involved in the school and wanted to protect the school.
She's a very spiritual woman.
And she was anti-eugenics.
There you go.
She was anti-eugenics and she did not want the school inviting any of that in and she was very vocal about it and she ended up murdered.
And someone just wrote the book on the mystery but it kind of leaves it as a cliffhanger.
And so, you know, the legacy of this school is not what people think it is.
Yeah. And the influences in this school are also not what people think it is.
It's a wonderful place and very magical, and I'm very grateful for my time that I spent there.
I was an academic fellow.
I did a post-doc research period at Stanford, and I'm so grateful for that.
But I do think there's a dark side to that school.
Yeah. And I do think that there is a lot of, I mean...
You know, they had something there up until recently called the Internet Observatory.
Oh. And it was, they had government money involved, some donor money involved, but it was a whole center of all of these AI technologists that were monitoring the Internet for misinformation or for any narratives they didn't like.
Right. That's what it is.
Well, we know what they're, it seems that they're monitoring.
I'm saying this in a good way.
They really don't want the American people to unite.
Let's say that.
They really thought they had, you know, painted a picture of Trump as a racist and a bigot and an idiot.
But that didn't fly.
Because people heard him speak.
And people heard him lay out his...
They didn't just listen to him say, you know, they actually listened to his platform, which is brilliant.
And anybody who listens to it is quite impressed.
So they amped up all the circus clown stuff.
But it is based on Unity, and it is based on, you know...
Of the people, by the people, and for the people.
And that is unity.
This is our government and we must, as people, run it.
Hello? Why have we accepted that these idiots are running it for us?
They're doing nothing but making deals with corporations in other countries for themselves.
They're not helping anybody.
Yeah. And it'll take the people united.
To get rid of that and fix it.
And, you know, I just wish women who cared about children, which I would assume would be moms, even young women who aren't moms, but women are supposed to have a little more empathy.
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But by and large, that's what we feel and think as mothers, that we have something in common with other mothers, and that we have a strength together, you know?
And, you know, they've really taken an axe to that to separate mothers who care about...
Children's education, children's eating, children's well-being, and they've hacked that all to hell.
And, you know, any blows against that is, I think, where the revolution is, on the left and the right.
So that's how I arrived here.
That's actually how I arrived to Bobby Kennedy, was that I had been, I went through my own reproductive health journey, really wanted to become a mother.
And in Silicon Valley, the way to do that is you go to an IVF clinic.
And you freeze your eggs and you bank your fertility.
And I went through a few clinics in the Bay Area and my experience was so confusing.
I was like, you guys really don't know how to measure women's fertility, but you're selling them fertility.
You don't seem to know much about it.
And so, you know, like they can't answer questions like, well, how many fertile years do I have left?
Can't really answer that.
They can tell you how many follicles you have active, but they'll scare you.
They'll be like, you'll have less and less active follicles.
You have to do this soon.
You're going to run out.
And I'm like, but in Europe, you know, they're not telling 29-year-old women this.
At the time, maybe they are now.
But I was like, in Europe, it's really common for like a 43-year-old woman to have a healthy baby.
Why is it here in the United States?
Anyways, it was all very confusing to me.
And it turned out that I had PCOS.
It was like every time I went in, they were like, you have the cyst.
We can't hyperstimulate all of your follicles all at once, which is what they do.
It's too dangerous.
Come back again.
So I kept coming back and I had the same problem over and over again.
And I left.
With this belief that they left me with, which is that I was infertile.
And then, you know, fast forward about a year, I had decided to use my family's wealth to invest in women's reproductive science.
That's so cool.
Put $100 million of a commitment and opened the first women's fertility clinic or scientific research into reproductive longevity for a center.
Ever. Created in California.
Created one in Singapore as well.
Anyway, so I do all of this and then really like just randomly I get pregnant.
Just randomly?
Random. I mean, not totally random.
I mean, there was like mechanics involved.
No, but I mean, there was no mechanics involved?
I mean, there was only nature.
I mean, there was a man and a woman involved, but there was no facility.
Right? Okay, thank you.
Yeah. Cool.
And I'm like, what is going on?
I thought I was infertile.
And turns out, the science that I funded...
PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome, is actually a sign of fertility.
And women who have PCOS are three times more likely to conceive a healthy child.
So I was like, well, why is our body creating this cyst?
And then you find out all of this about how the body protects itself from these environmental issues.
These various things that endocrine disrupt.
These chemicals, these waters, the air.
All of these environmental aspects that our body is so smart is trying to protect itself against.
Well, it knows what to do.
Yeah. But this experience made me realize that science, the science that they were selling us in IVF clinics was not real science.
It was corporate, paid for, private equity, IVF, which is a for-profit, very lucrative field.
Yeah. This is a perfect opportunity.
Sorry, you were saying.
You have to tighten it.
No, I don't want to mess up my hairband.
You've got to tighten that.
Sorry, you were saying.
So that was my first run-in with science and realizing it's not what they're selling it as.
The corporates are selling a different science than the actual foundational.
She calls it Science TM.
Yeah. And then, of course, my daughter, learning that my daughter was later diagnosed with autism, I gave birth to the healthiest girl.
She was chubby.
She ate a ton.
She was happy.
She's beautiful, beautiful.
She's still beautiful.
She's a beautiful...
And I had a great pregnancy.
And so I had this healthy baby, seven months of age.
I was convinced to give her the MMR vaccine.
By the time she was 10 months of age, my little baby girl was different.
My ex-husband disagrees with me on that.
Of course he does.
If you go on Google and you research autism, there's literally nothing helpful on there that I could.
It was all like, it's behavioral.
There's nothing you can do.
There's no cure.
And it's unexplained.
That's what Google will tell you when you look on it.
And I tried.
And I believed it.
I believed it for years.
And it wasn't until other mothers who had 20-year-old autistic children.
Some of them 10, 15-year-olds.
But it was really the ones that had been in it for like a few decades.
Pulled me aside.
And, you know, I just like...
It's uncurable.
It's just a random act of the universe.
There will never be an explanation for what causes autism.
I believed all that.
Even though it's up like a thousand percent.
Yeah. You don't believe that now, though, do you?
Oh, God, no.
So I started this very, very painful journey, very much alone, caused a lot of marital strife between my ex and I. It's why we're exes for the most part.
And it's still ongoing.
It's still a battle.
But what I have been through in my transformation is finding the other moms who have already gone through this experience.
And they're gentle and kind.
And many of them, though, feel that they're living like an underground existence.
They are.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's all over TikTok.
I watch a ton of moms with autistic kids and how they each do a different thing.
Some of them have kids that are just so sweet, but they're big.
Yeah. And then they, you know, start hitting mom and, you know, they have to make a change.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is.
It is not for the faint of heart.
But you love these kids so much.
I would do anything for my daughter.
Usually they have a very special talent or gift, too.
Well, that's the thing.
The brain is so amazing.
I know.
It's always looking for a way to adapt to its environment.
And so I think because these kids end up with some kind of brain developmental...
Disturbance, whether it be spawned by, you know, this is TBD, we need more science into this, but whether it be an event, like a big immune event as a young child changes the development of the brain fundamentally.
It changes where the energy in the brain goes because it's trying to work around these developmental deficiencies.
It can create such a brilliant new perspective.
So a lot of these kids end up with just incredible insights into the world around us and they interact with it very differently.
But a lot of these kids also suffer in that experience.
And for the parents, you don't know what's around the next corner.
Every developmental phase is very, very different, and challenges can rear themselves in different ways that you can't predict.
Does your daughter, though, have a special gift or a special, like...
Something she can...
Yeah, I mean, my daughter, since she was very young, interacts with nature in a very unique way.
And a lot of these kids do because they have sensory differences as well.
And so my daughter would interact with trees very differently from a young age.
You really?
My thing's trees, too.
That's crazy, yeah.
Yeah, and so from a very, like, when she was, like, two, she'd go up to a tree, she'd put her hands on it, and she'd just, like, look up, and you could just tell that, like, there was some really deep connection she was having with a tree.
And, I mean, it's beautiful to watch, and you don't want your kids to lose that magical connection.
It's funny how the brain does go.
It's neuroplasticity.
It is neuroplasticity.
That's what it is.
That's part of AI too, isn't it?
And Neuralink, all that stuff.
Yeah. I've trained AI in the past and it very much comes from our knowledge of how a child's brain develops.
So if you look at some of the training tools on neural networks and, you know, the different knowledge graphs, the way that you algorithmically teach a program.
It's just software.
AI is just smart software.
You teach it to decipher things, and so a lot of it starts with sorting.
And when you're a kid, you know, that's one of the first things you're taught is how to sort stuff.
I still love sorting.
You never grew out of that, did you?
No. I'm on the spectrum.
Maybe. No, I am.
I mean, there's neurodiversity and neurodivergency.
No, I am on it.
And, you know, I look at it as gifts because I'll, like, sit and study a system and I'll get it down to the bone, you know, but, you know, and it helps me in writing.
And I think that if you're an empath that goes into AI, which is what I am, I'm like a hyper-empath, and I went into AI, it actually made me appreciate humans more.
Yeah. And this is where I want tech to go, is that, When we recognize how hard it is to build good AI, we realize that nature has made this on its own.
Yeah. It's all based on patterns.
It's way smarter than we are.
Way smarter.
What do you think of that Yuval Harari?
Do you hate that guy like I do?
I've met Yuval.
I haven't met him.
I mean, I read his books and I was like, why aren't women in here?
No shit.
He really doesn't seem to appreciate women in the history of our species at all.
Well, they're stinky and stuff and, you know, they're not cool.
Yeah, simplistic and all of the great achievements of humanity have come from men, according to you, Val.
Yeah. I disagree with him.
I think that there's been concerted efforts to take women out of a lot of the literature from jealous men.
I know my experience was I didn't always get credit for some of my achievements either in my lived experience working with men.
Hello. At the end of the day, I guess it's Mike Makes Right.
That's kind of their hidden code that they never name because they get used to it, the privilege of it.
Yeah. And then you meet a good guy.
I mean, I'm with a good guy now.
I'm like, wow, this is incredible.
Isn't that something?
And he likes you?
And he honors my contribution.
Oh my God, that's fantastic.
Isn't that a mind blower?
It kind of is.
When you're a smart woman, it's hard.
Yeah, yeah.
But you've always been around smart men.
I don't know.
I didn't make that many smart men.
I mean, I've made...
You know who the real kingmakers are in the world?
They're women.
Women, yeah.
Women are kingmakers.
Yeah, absolutely.
Men don't, you know, crown other men.
They're slut makers.
You know, women are kingmakers.
That's right.
And, you know, we were talking about this earlier, Roseanne.
Women and moms are going to decide the fate of this election because they are some of the most motivated people right now on the ground.
But can't they get beyond this?
Bad Daddy Trump, just because they had bad dads, and Trump somehow reminds them of their dad that was an asshole.
He's not.
He's been made to look that way, and he cares about them and their children.
He wants all kids to have a good education, not to be indoctrinated in a horrible public school, which is, you know, little better than a friggin' pipeline to prisons.
I mean, and...
You know, he's against ghettos.
I mean, people, please!
And, you know, they say it's the awfuls.
The affluent, white, female liberals that are causing all the trouble for America because of their contempt for this guy.
And they've never even read his platforms.
It's a unifying platform for women and men.
Okay, there are some differences we can discuss.
Yeah, I think they hear him speak and they're like, I've heard enough.
And they just block it.
I can tell you from personal experience, I believe what the mainstream media told me about Donald Trump.
I'd hear him speak and I'd go, I've heard enough.
And I...
You know, figured we still had the talent in the Democratic Party to lead this country.
The reality is we don't.
We don't.
The real talent on the left has been completely kicked out.
It's being run now by an organization of corporatists.
And, you know, I don't use the word...
And they don't like women, and they don't like Jews, and they don't like black people, and they don't like poor people, and they don't like Americans.
Yeah, and they create chaos.
They feel entitled to creating chaos.
They feel entitled to creating false narratives because they are so myopic in their ability to experience life.
And that is a problem.
Or to love or respect anybody or anybody's differences.
They despise difference.
But America is about the melting pot of difference.
Like you were telling me, your background, you've got a lot of melting pot stuff in you.
And most Americans do.
It's time to stop separating us with all these artificial things to just put us in our pens.
It doesn't make you a better person.
It actually makes you a worse person for doing that.
I think so too.
And in order for us to solve the problems, we have to get out of overly simplifying society into these buckets based on race.
Yeah. And their obsession with that right now is their downfall.
I think so too.
Because race is racism.
Really, bottom line, race is racism because the only people that cares about race right now are slavers.
Well, and also, like, you don't solve for social ills by...
Creating inverse racism, which says that if you are black, you are better.
You basically solve social ills by looking at the mechanics of what's happening from community to community.
And those communities are not just all black communities.
They are mixed, diverse communities.
I came from one of those communities.
So did I. And so how you address income inequality.
You make sure the schools are actually teaching real education, not these odd social dynamics.
And you can't just reward people based on their identity.
You have to reward people based on how the mechanics of a market-based society rewards people.
That's right.
And yes, there's going to be breakdowns.
And yes, we need a social net.
100% believes in social nets.
I am the product of a successful social net.
Me too.
If you gut market economics, you gut that individual's opportunity in a market economy.
I am seeing whole communities get gutted of expertise.
Yeah. They are being gutted of true individual identity and liberty.
That's right.
And they are being gutted of real opportunity.
Absolutely. And that is an injustice.
They're being gutted of their wealth, too.
And self-reliance.
Gentrification. They come in and buy everything at dirt prices after people have lived there for generations.
Making it crumble so they can go in and buy it.
Yeah. It's just all wrong.
But it's so fixable.
That's why I like listening to Trump when he talks about a new kind of a...
Nobody ever reads it that much, but just a new kind of, you know, what's the word?
Coinage. A new kind of value for value kind of...
Oh, currency?
Currency. A value for value currency.
A change in that.
Not the one they want.
Not the big rip-off one.
But, you know, where we'll own nothing but be happy.
But one that's based in community wealth.
Growing community wealth for the various...
I mean, it's so Democrat.
It's like basically Democrat populism.
And now it goes with Trump.
Which is what I saw happen for a really long time.
You saw it before a lot of people, Rosanna.
I always do.
That's why I'm a comedian.
Yeah, and comedians have been the fastest.
I mean, this goes back to medieval times.
Comedians have always been the brightest and freest individuals to comment on political society and to do it with a bit of accuracy but also levity.
Which gets through to people.
Then you don't get killed.
Yeah. That's fast.
But I want to go back to overcoming for moms because I'm working my way through this too.
You know, it was not easy for us to drop our campaign and endorse Trump.
And I've been doing a lot of...
I've researched myself just to continue.
It's almost daily where I'm like, is this the right decision?
Do we trust this guy?
That's good that you're doing that.
Yeah, it's good.
And so, you know, every day I am trying to figure out who is around Trump, who is actually going to be represented in this administration, because it's not one man, it's a whole team.
You know one of his best, guys, don't you?
I was so thrilled.
Oh my god, I was crying.
Can we talk about that a little bit?
Because Maha, you've got to explain Maha.
RFK is the biggest...
Oh yeah, make America healthy again.
It's not just pro-Trump, it's pro-America.
This union is the best thing that ever happened in this country.
It's a big tent.
It's not just about one guy.
It is a really big tent.
It's not about one guy.
But we have one aggressive guy at the top who we need because everything else is a lie.
And he's the only one that's going to go in there, this is a lie.
And that's why they're mad at him.
But, you know, he makes mistakes.
He's not...
God. But it is all a lie, and we need aggressive people to say it when the media is a unified field of lies.
And like you said, yeah, they look real good, but who's going to fall for a shiny object while everything's on fire?
Yeah, yeah.
Again, I...
I just want to make it a big tent, and I'm so gratified to see it.
Do you know how many...
I mean, I don't want to get in my...
But do you know how much, I'm just telling you because I know, you know, you get it.
Do you know how many thousands of phone calls I have made to try to bring people together, different, diverse peoples, to go, come on!
You know, can't you see?
It's about making America work again, you know?
It's about making America healthy.
It's about us!
It's about us!
It's not about what's overseas.
It's about us and the people's money going to other countries.
This is our tax money.
And the public's money belongs to the public.
Hello? And the government has to be the most competent person in the room, not the least.
And we've allowed our government to get away with just so much incompetency.
And in some cases murder.
Quite literally.
It's, I don't want to, you know, the reason why I think a lot of people in the center saw January 6th and were like, I don't, like, that's extreme.
And I've gotten a chance to understand January 6th and the people who participated in a little bit more and hear those perspectives that a lot of people do see that the government is unsalvageable.
I disagree.
I think we're growing up.
We're going through a bout of growing pains.
We're in growing pains right now.
But this is why I loved your show so much.
It was all about young people coming of age and the growing pains they experience.
And we address it in the same way a good mom addresses it in her...
In her household.
That's right.
We have to love each other more than we hate one guy.
Exactly. We have to love our kids.
And kids from other countries to not be dragged over here and used as slaves of any sort.
We have to love ourselves.
And what's moral, you know, that's what I said.
I want a hat that says, Mama, make America moral again.
Because women are the ones that have to return that morality to care for the children in this country.
We have to do it in this big tent where we all put forth our best effort.
We don't just sit there calling each other names and trying to start shit.
Yeah, and we have to measure each other based on a sincere and good faith effort to put into this country what this country so rightly deserves and what the people of this country so rightly deserve.
And the people need to have the...
People do have the right and need to reclaim the right to hold our government accountable for what they've done to us in our name that we would never consent to because we're moral.
We would never consent to all these immoral things.
That's why they have to keep them secret because if the moms found out, whoa, it'd be over in a minute.
Moms are finding out.
And those are the individuals that I will be speaking to over the next several weeks in the lead up to the election are the moms who have distaste for Donald Trump because they see him as a misogynist.
You know, every guy's a misogynist.
How could they not be?
Women are horrible people.
That's a good point.
We can be.
We're picky and petty.
Women aren't perfect.
Nobody's perfect.
I believe this.
All women are crazy and all men are stupid.
I think that's something we can unite on.
Like the yin and the yang.
It works.
I think, speaking from the heart, I want...
I want science to be protected by the Constitution again.
I want our scientists to be protected by the Constitution.
I want them to do real science, for God's sake.
Yeah. With a control group for once.
And I want moms to trust their gut again, right?
I want moms to feel empowered in their homes.
I want an economy that works.
I want people to...
I want our government to respect our families.
And the teacher and the parents work together.
Remember those days a long time ago where you worked for the betterment of the child's education together?
Yeah. And these are all so common sense that it really doesn't take a miracle to pull them off if you have the right people in leadership.
And I'm praying every day.
That it comes together.
You wouldn't believe the amount of phone calls I'm making.
Because I can.
Because I got these phone numbers.
So I'm going to continue to try to just bring people together to know that we have to do it.
It's our government.
It's not theirs.
It's ours.
And I will say Trump loves the Constitution.
He respects it very deeply.
I think he respects the family.
I think he respects a mom being a mom.
I think he defers to moms when it comes to raising their own children.
I do too.
He does.
And if you are a mom in America right now, that is at stake.
Yes, it is.
It's the target, especially single moms who have single moms.
It's their kids that are being targeted in the public schools for all of it.
Oh, I would be a man right now if I grew up because I was a tomboy.
Me too.
I liked baseball.
I liked baseball cards.
I liked hitting other kids and, you know, being unfair to them and stuff.
Real quick, I have a tip to say.
The unity of Bobby and you with Trump.
I know Trump's not everybody's ideal.
I'm sure when you started out, that wasn't your plan.
I know where we are now.
But I can tell you, Kamala...
Bobby lifts him.
Well, hold on.
Kamala and the Democrats, everyone in this room...
Was a Democrat.
I was a Bernie bro with you in 2016.
She ran as a socialist in 2012.
We've all been through this journey.
We've seen it happen since 16 and even before then.
We're here as Democrats, traditional Democrats, saying there's something wrong with this country and with that party.
And now we're unifying around Trump.
I hated Trump.
Yeah. We're unifying for a reason.
Because that is the party right now that is...
Our party.
Willing to solve problems rather than to stay in stodgy dogma.
They're the uniparty.
They're the war party.
Kamala is not your daddy's Democrats.
Trump is closer to that.
You know what they are?
They're neocons.
They're neocons pretending to be progressives.
Well, I mean, she just announced this list of 20...
200 Republicans that have endorsed her.
Cheney. And every single one of them is a multi-generational neocon.
Neocons. And more criminal.
Yeah. And they're acting like, you know, they're progressives.
Are you kidding me?
That's a mass mind control program.
And they've been doing it for a while.
Done by Silicon Valley, which I have to, that's my last question and I'll let you go.
You said you saw a change in 2016.
You didn't know if the people involved were victims or...
Part of it.
But now, where do you find yourself in that?
Because it's happened so fast.
She said she's still figuring it out.
Well, you've been here for an hour talking to us, so hopefully it changed.
You saw it happen so fast and so coordinated.
It can't be natural, right?
It has to be an influence, right?
Yeah. I mean, I understand some of the mechanics of how it works.
There's pressure from Congress and you can call in these tech founders and force them to testify on one issue from another from internet bullying.
I mean, you picket drug use on the social media sites.
They've made an example of some of these tech founders like Ross Ulbrich is in prison.
Julian Assange just got out of prison.
So, you know, the stakes are very high.
It's a tough thing to be a tech leader today.
You're held to different standards.
And I think that where we are in 2024...
It's very clear where the divisions lie.
It's very interesting because they're all developing and racing in these AI wars right now as well.
And you see the divisions happening and it's very clear there are some tech founders that are going to be constitutionalists and they're willing to sacrifice it all.
I love that.
There aren't many.
There aren't many.
But there's some, and I have to say Elon Musk is a little bit bulletproof because of SpaceX and Starlink.
He can get away with the stuff he's doing on X, but that's the only thing protecting him is his space program, the fact that it works.
It's been delightful to have this conversation with you and have you here as a guest.
Your fearlessness makes me feel inspired.
You're very fearless.
Well, I'm very old, so it doesn't matter.
I'm 72. What the hell, you know?
There's a little lake.
If I die, what the hell?
I left a lot of good stuff behind.
And I'm probably worth more dead than alive, to be frank.
Certainly for me, yes.
Well, I disagree.
We're new friends.
I'd like to, you know, I'd like to explore this friendship.
I would too.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're just a delightful person.
Oh, thank you.
And your ideas are right on and I love them.
And we're happy to be a part of this unity for as long as it lasts.
Hopefully it lasts forever.
But this is to save our country.
This is.
I'm very grateful you're here.
This is to save our country's children.
Maha. Mama, I'm getting me a hat.
It will outlive any single candidate, I'm sure.
Yes. I hope so.
Long may she wave.
Long may she wave.
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