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Oct. 19, 2023 - The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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#019 Ami Horowitz | The Roseanne Barr Podcast
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Greetings humans!
Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
It's a serious one today.
We'll get into it about Israel and all of that stuff.
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All right, let's bring on our guest.
And now our guest, Ami Horowitz.
How are you, Rosemary?
I'm, you know, nervous and kind of in shock.
In PTSD trauma, you know, having that flare up again.
How are you?
I'm great.
Although I'm similar.
Look, it's...
It's a very, you know, who could have thought or predicted that we would find ourselves in the situation that we are now?
It's almost beyond comprehension.
It's almost, it's very difficult to even like think something like this could have happened.
Are we talking about the same thing?
I'm assuming we're talking about Israel, but we're talking about something else.
I don't know.
Yeah.
What are you laughing at, Jake?
Because he's being sarcastic.
Obviously this was going to happen.
They gave Iran billions of dollars.
Well, you know, we've.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not being sarcastic.
No, look, first of all, I'll tell you, okay, a couple things. One is capability. Did they, I am
shocked that they had the capability to do this, right? It's the ability to get over one of the
most fortified places in the Middle East, if not the world, supposedly, right?
With the greatest high-tech in the world.
With the country of Israel that has infiltrated every level of Hamas leadership with intelligence, and our SIGNET, and our human intelligence.
And all of that combined... No, in a million years... I remember somebody sent me the video early on, And said, here's a video of Hamas people rampaging in the streets of Israel.
I literally told this person, I go, this is fake.
This can't be real.
No, no, this is totally shocking.
And then moreover, and this may make me sound stupid.
I don't care.
I'm just going to be honest.
I spent time with Hamas.
I was undercover with Hamas for a couple of weeks.
I got to know a lot of their leadership and their lay people.
And I got to tell you, Look, obviously I knew these were bloodthirsty animals who have killed hundreds of Jews and civilians in cold blood.
Let's add that they have killed thousands of Palestinians in cold blood.
Absolutely.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
But if you asked me, do I think they had the capability?
The barbarity to separate the heads of babies from their bodies?
I would have said no.
If you asked me, do they have it in them to rape Holocaust survivors?
Honestly, I would have said no.
I didn't think they had it in them.
I really, really, really didn't.
Okay.
Number one, what you said about the infrastructure and the information, you know, the warning signs.
Didn't that happen here on 9-11?
America also having that technology that failed?
I always compare because it's not just Israel that is the target, it's also the United States.
Correct.
That's a great point, yeah.
At the end of the day, Israel's the canary in the coal mine, right?
Israel happens to be, this is not a battle against Judaism.
It's a battle against Western ideals and modernity.
That's what they hate.
Israel just happens to be in an area very close to where these crazy people are, okay?
It's not about a piece of land, it really isn't.
It's about the extermination of a way of life that they find offensive.
That's what it really is.
And, you know, there's a reason why Iran always chanted over the years, since the revolution, Israel, small Satan, US, big Satan, right?
That's what it means, though.
Yep.
And if you ask, and I spent a lot of time with Hamas supporters, Palestinian supporters, And I always ask them, okay, you talk about how much they hate Israel and Zionism, and then I say, what do you think about the U.S.?
I have never in my entire life of the hundreds of people I have interviewed, have I ever heard an anti-Israel and Semitic piece of shit say to me, oh, but I love America.
Not once.
Not once.
They hate America just as much they hate Israel, and we have to understand that this is a clash of cultures, a battle of ideologies.
It's a zero-sum game, Roseanne.
They win and we lose, or we win and they lose.
They don't want accommodation.
These guys do not want accommodation.
No, they don't.
Well, it's the Nazi World Order, the NWO.
That's what it is.
It's the Fourth Reich.
That's how I perceive it.
And, you know... Not NWA.
NW is different, right?
Not NWA.
NWO.
No, NWO.
Everybody says New World Order, but it's Nazi World Order, Fourth Reich.
Because, you know, They didn't lose the war.
They came to America.
And they infiltrated our government, and they infiltrated our Secret Service.
And, you know, people who don't know that, which is 99% of Americans, should learn about it.
It's easy to learn about it by just studying Operation Paperclip.
Start there.
Inform yourselves.
Because I think people should know why they're about to die.
Don't you?
Do you think Americans are gonna start to die?
You're not talking about, like you don't think America's gonna put troops on the ground, do you?
Well, supposedly Biden said he's gonna put 2,000 Americans over there to fight him.
Look, it is so huge, it's so huge that we can't even use the words they want us to use because, you know, their words mean nothing.
But they want us to use those words that mean nothing, but death.
Um, and it's hard for me to even use those words because like, just take, for example, all these people, Americans, you know, I'm talking about the leftist Americans, American born, leftist, college educated, supposedly, or miseducated is a better word.
But, uh, you know, everything they back is a backfire.
You know what I mean?
When they go in to back a union, the union is destroyed.
Now, when they go, every time they go in and they're always on the wrong side of everything, they're always on the most violent.
They say that they are for the oppressed, but they go to the most violent, not the most oppressed, just the most violent.
And what they do is destroy every liberal democracy.
So it's obviously COINTELPRO, everything they do.
I'm talking about Antifa, BLM, all of them, the Democrat Party itself.
It's always COINTELPRO.
They are trying to destroy Israel because it is a liberal democracy and they prefer Sharia law or a military takeover and a lockdown like Stalinism.
That's what they like.
That's what they back and what they work for.
They hate liberal democracies, which is so crazy because that's the only place they're allowed to survive.
So it's obviously COINTELPRO, lemming programming.
Well, there's nothing... Sorry, Roseanne.
I was finished.
Go ahead.
There's nothing liberal about the left.
Okay, let's make that very clear.
These are people who have fascist tendencies, if they're not fascist.
That's the misuse of language that so upsets me because it's beyond Orwellian doublespeak.
It's a complete reversal.
So when they say fidelity and trust, like These fucking banks do.
That means they're going to rob you.
So you just have to learn the keys to translation.
You know, when they say freedom, they mean slavery.
You know, you just have to know how to reverse it.
The left has always been very, very good in changing language.
It's what they're known for.
I mean, just look at the Soviet Union and the way they were able to change language.
Look, this says it all.
The main Soviet paper was called Prada.
Means truth.
Right?
I mean, see nothing truthful about Prada that was ever printed in it.
Maybe the weather.
Maybe.
I'm not even sure about that.
That's the modus operandi of the left.
That's why I know that Nazism comes in and it looks like a freedom thing.
It comes in as left, and the left always is fascist and right, like Mussolini.
The left always starts out looking like it's not what it is.
That's why on over Auschwitz, the gate says, work makes free.
That means, because you're going to die as a slave, and then you'll be free because you'll be dead.
Yeah.
No, there's no question.
It is the left.
It is the left who works for the right.
The right pays the left to lie to keep people from actually organizing and doing something about their plight.
I mean, I've always looked at the political spectrum as not a line, actually.
The political spectrum is more of a circle.
It is, absolutely.
And it's amazing to me that when you go to one extreme on the left and the other extreme on the right, the two meet.
And actually, the truth is you can actually even see it now.
You can see it now.
That was a lot.
A lot of it was the last 50 years.
It was mostly theoretical because we didn't really have the hard left and the hard right in this country like we do today.
And now you can really see they use the same language.
They have the same goals.
Yeah, they both are Jew haters.
All their agreement is in that.
Oh, it's more than that.
But yes.
Oh, it's amazing.
When you ask anti-Semites, and I have, I've spent time with anti-Semites on the left, and the anti-Semites on the right.
And I asked them, why do you hate Jews?
Their answers are mirrors of each other.
It's amazing.
It's the exact same language.
Oh, Jewish control, Jewish, it's the same word, same language.
It's incredible.
It really, really is.
And it's, it's painful because that's, look, we are in a part of our time now where we are seeing more extremes.
And that is a danger, not just to our world, not to our country, but to our world.
Um, look, Hitler, I know the left doesn't like to hear this.
They call Hitler a rightist, but that's not, Hitler had a lot of
things about him that were hard, right.
But he had, man, he was as hard left as hard right.
He actually embodied both.
Yes!
You know, the National Socialist Party.
It's not just a name you pick from a hat.
He was the head of the workers union when he was in his 20s.
He was a hard communist, right?
And a lot of his policies were about taking over Um, uh, nationalizing industry.
Look, the man was no question part of the right, but he was equally, if not more part of the left.
He embodies all the same thing.
It's the unit, it's the uni party.
And it's like, you know, there's only one bird and it has a right wing and the left wing.
It's one bird, you know?
So that's what people have to realize.
And it's a bird of prey and we're, we're the prey.
I've never heard that before.
Did you make that up?
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't make up the bird part, but I just made up the prey, bird of prey, and we're the prey.
But I know that we are the prey and we are the collateral damage they trade in, that bird.
You know?
Can I ask a question to Ami?
When you were talking about how you never thought Hamas could breach the Iron Dome and all this stuff going on, there's a lot of theories online I wanted to use today.
I know we're going to talk about a lot of things, but I'd like to either dispel or maybe add to the theories bouncing around.
A lot of theories are surrounding, because the internet, you know how it goes.
That this potentially could have been an inside job by the Israeli government or Iran funded the hacking of Israeli systems.
There's a lot going on.
Do you have a theory?
Well, can we discuss a few?
Just people watching this, you know, they just read online and go, Oh, it's the Jews or whatever.
Like, how do you think they did it?
The former is false.
The latter is true.
Yes.
I mean, it's ludicrous to think that this was a false flag operator.
This was a, a, a, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's insane to think that Israel was involved in this.
I mean, this, this government's going to fall because this government's toast.
I mean, you can't survive this happening under your watch.
And he should be, right?
I've been a fan of BB's for years.
He should be gone.
This is something you can't walk back.
No, he should be gone.
Iran?
Look, there's no question Iran has their fingerprints all over this.
No question.
Iran has a very sophisticated hacker network.
I think that's what happened.
Yeah, it's an excellent hacker network.
They fund Hamas to the tune of a hundred million dollars a year.
They've been preparing for this for years!
For years!
Of course!
Well, that's why I laughed early on when you said, who could see this coming?
Because my mom got fired basically for calling out the Iran deal that happened under Obama.
Biden did a hostage trade where it was equal amount of hostages, and then he gave Iran an additional $6 billion.
So I mean, they've been planning this for two years from what we can see.
Well, I saw they were planning it when I sent my tweet out in 2017.
I said, you know, the Obama administration, which, you know, is still in office.
Let's remember that.
I said, uh, I think they, they stole the election for this purpose to, to continue his, um, you know, he thinks that, you know, he thinks he's a prophet and a, uh, He thinks he's the savior of Islam.
That's his mentality.
And so he has to finish this Iran thing, and it is the existential threat to Israel.
And I saw it in 2017, and that's what my tweet was about.
I racially misgendered Valerie Jarrett.
I thought the bitch was white!
I thought the bitch was white!
Those are my favorite quotes of all time!
I have t-shirts, I'll send you one.
Yeah, we have t-shirts that say it.
But if everybody would read my tweet with that in mind, me thinking that she was an Iranian, you know, a white woman from Iran, which is what Anyway, that's what I thought.
But if they would read my tweet in that way, they'd see that I predicted what just happened in Israel.
I'm sure you have no recollection of this, Roseanne, but when this controversy broke out, I was in Beirut.
I was actually undercover with the Muslim Brotherhood.
Which is funny.
And I actually texted you.
We texted back and forth once or twice.
I said, I'm so sorry, what's going on with you?
And I just went and you said, thank you.
And obviously, you know, you were a bit, you were a little too busy to go on beyond that.
But yeah, when that happened, I was in my hotel room in Beirut.
And I was like, holy crap.
Alright, so let me, I'm gonna, you guys are- Did you like it?
The tweet or my Muslim Brotherhood meetings?
Well, you were in a precarious position, but I pretty much said that, you know, that deal would unleash that movie in Israel.
And that's what it did.
It sure did.
It sure did.
But let me say this.
You guys are both sitting?
You're both sitting?
Make sure you're sitting.
I don't want you to fall over after I say this.
Okay, good.
Look, if anybody who knows me, who's followed me on TV or my videos knows that I am a rabid critic of Joe Biden.
You said it, by the way, very right.
Joe, if you look at who Joe Biden has administration, it is chock full of Obama people who, by the way, the, you know, a report was made that there's a reason why Obama still lives in Washington, DC.
These guys revolve through his townhouse, keeping him informed what's going on.
You know, I would not be surprised if he's pulling a lot of the strings when it comes to the Biden administration.
I think maybe, maybe all, I don't know, but he's been one of the most damaging Obama.
Yeah, I don't think you're wrong.
He's been one of the most damaging presidents for a country we have ever had.
I have been a vociferous, vociferous critic of Biden.
I mean, look, I have a hard time understanding what he's actually saying.
So I think I don't like what he's saying, but I can't really tell.
I don't know what he's saying.
But I will say this, at least thus far, Everything he has said on Israel has been 100% strong and correct.
He has not wavered, not gone wobbly, not said, at least not publicly, hey guys, let's back off a little bit.
Thus far, I'm not saying that will continue going forward.
I'm just saying thus far, I actually have been very, very happy with Joe Biden on where he has stood with Israel, steadfastly stood with Israel so far.
And I'm shocked.
You're saying the things he says.
Yeah, publicly.
Yeah, look, as far as I know from the contacts that I have, he has not put pressure on Israel to pull back privately.
I think putting in an aircraft carrier certainly is more than just words.
Again, this is just from what I understand both publicly and the small things I understand privately.
These things may change, right?
These things may change.
Look, when this hospital, I think the hospital was bombed, although we're not 100% sure.
No, now they say it was the parking lot behind the hospital.
Yeah, but let's just say it was the hospital itself, right?
I mean, I think that- Far less dead.
I'm sorry?
Far less dead.
Yeah, it wasn't level, it seems.
But if Obama was president, I think you would have had Obama come out without even looking at the intelligence, attacking Israel for this.
And Biden did not do that.
Biden, in fact, said, we looked into it.
Our intelligence says Israel is not involved, even though the pieces of shit in his party, right?
Pieces of crap like Ilhan Omar and Asher Tlaib immediately, and this is the kind of tweets and words that lead to Jews dying, where they put no look, they didn't look even one iota into what actually happened and just tweeted out, look at what Israel is doing, killing Arabs, right?
So look, I'll just say this, thus far, not unhappy with Biden and Israel.
I am.
I hate that he went over there and he said, it was the other team.
It was the other team, he says in Netanyahu.
I looked into it and you know, it was the other team.
He's never been good at Latin.
He's not exactly a linguist.
Well, he did.
I did see reports that he was.
And then some people say he's over there, uh, What he's doing while he's over there saying the right words is that he just gave a hundred million to the government of Gaza, which is Hamas.
Yeah, I don't think he... I don't know.
Look, I could be wrong.
I could not have updated information.
I don't know.
I don't think he's given them aid yet, but that would be a problem.
Look, I understand... Okay, look, I understand why the world says, what's the problem with getting aid?
Hamas, right?
Or giving aid to the Palestinians.
They need aid.
They're in trouble.
Give them aid.
I get that impulse, but what people have to understand Israel also has been funding Hamas.
Let's not forget that.
Israel has been giving money in aid to the Palestinians.
Just like the Clinton Foundation, it never gets the funding.
But no, but what Hamas does, it was just exposed, was the reason there's no water is because they dug up the water pipes to put them in their terror structure.
You know, that's why they don't get water.
But we don't get to hear that because this is really an information war.
It is a huge information war.
Not to mention, by the way, people don't realize Gaza sits on a huge aquifer.
But they can't tap into it because they use all the infrastructure that Israel has provided them for their terror infrastructure.
Yes, they're sitting on huge amounts of water.
They just don't have the ability to dig into it because all of their pipes and infrastructure has been used for terror.
Right.
And then it just sickens me that they pretend that they care about the children there.
Well, they don't.
And then the only schools are UN schools where they train to be soldiers, which is a war crime.
The UN funds war crimes against Palestinian children by training them to be soldiers in the first grade, which I don't think we're far off from doing here in the United States.
We're trying to be the children to be soldiers for sexual identity.
It's just fucked.
Look, I did a movie on the UN.
I spent a lot of time at UN schools in Gaza and the Palestinian territories.
And, okay, so you have the textbooks which vilify Jews, right?
Which leads to, when you look at somebody as something less than, and you call them cockroaches and vermin, yeah, of course.
And apes and pigs, that's big.
Apes and pigs, yeah, of course.
Just like we slaughter pigs, of course they're gonna rip the head off a baby.
What was the matter to them?
They're not human anyways.
It's that kind of, those kind of words, that kind of thought and teaching directly led to what we saw.
So America funds the UN, which funds hate speech.
Let's just get rid of all the bullshit and the double standards.
Because if it wasn't for double standards, the fucking left would have no standards whatsoever.
Look, I went to these schools and they have murals, murals of suicide bombers on schools that we pay for.
People who have blown up schools and buses.
Well, I do care for the Palestinian children.
And I really do.
And I pray for them, too, because they are just nothing but human cannon fodder by their own leaders.
And so are the children of every other country, I guess, really, when you look at it.
And it just sickens me because that is a satanic world that I don't know how much longer God is going to let that go or let it exist.
It can't.
It just can't.
I don't know if you're a religious Jew.
Are you, Ami?
I've got some religion in my bones.
Well, good for you.
That's good.
It's a good thing to hold on to that God stuff.
You know, if you want to see the difference between one side and the other side, I went to the rally at Columbia University.
Pearl Hamas rally, and I did a video there, and I interviewed people.
And let me explain the difference between Israel and the Palestinians.
You know, when I went, there were two rallies.
There was the Pearl Hamas rally that was the one that was scheduled, and then there was a counter-pro-Israel protest literally 20 yards away.
Right next to you, in the middle, if you know Columbia, you have a huge quad in the middle of the school.
It's an urban campus, pretty small.
And on that quad, they divided it in the middle.
Half were pro-Palestinian, half were pro-Israel.
And when I went and I was listening to the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas rally, all they used were words of violence.
Violence was their theme.
Over and over again.
From the river to the sea.
From the river to the sea.
Do you know what that means from the river to the sea?
Genocide.
Correct.
That means from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
Guess what's in between those two geographic points?
The Jewish state.
And when in 1948, when the Arabs were using the words, let's throw the Jews into the sea.
Guess what, Roseanne?
Nothing's changed.
These kids at Columbia and all over the country are using the same exact language.
Let's throw the Jews into the sea.
And then when I walk over... Something has changed.
I need to say it.
Something has changed.
You know, we're living in a unified field of bullshit as far as the news we receive, but here's the one thing very censored.
Since 1968, there has been a Nakba of Jews from every Arab state.
One million Jews were expelled from every Arab state, and they had lived there for generations, for centuries.
And they were expelled and all their wealth confiscated by those states, and they went to Israel.
So, those places are now Judenrein, which is, you know, the 4th Reich, Nazi world order.
So they're all, Arab states are Jewed and Rhine.
And so, you know, they did from, they did pack every Jew in to that little space.
And when they say from the river to the sea, they mean a huge sweep of the entire Arab world being Jewed and Rhine.
That's what they're rooting for.
They are.
And you know, it's so, by the way.
I love that you used the word Nakba.
Turn that around on those.
But it wasn't Nakba.
It was a Nakba from every Arab state.
What is a Nakba?
It means catastrophe.
It was the word that if you listen to... So when Israel celebrates its day of independence, right?
What do the Arabs celebrate?
Nakba.
That was there.
It was called catastrophe.
Often times, if I'm making myself some toast, and I drop it on the ground, I go, Ah!
Nakba!
So, but you're right.
Um, and let me explain the difference between Israel and the Arab world.
Because what happened was when the Jews were all expelled from all the Arab world, they didn't leave voluntarily.
They had good lives in Iraq, Syria, and Morocco.
Correct.
They lived great lives.
They didn't want to leave.
They were expelled.
Guess what happened to those Jews?
Did they live in refugee camps outside of Israel?
No.
Israel took in every single one of those Jews and brought them in to the state of Israel to become members, Israelis of the Jewish state.
And what happened to the Arabs who left voluntarily and in some cases were thrown out during a war?
Because that's what happens during a war.
None of them were taken into Arab states.
They all, from 1948 until today, live in refugee camps along the border of Jordan and along the border of Lebanon.
They've never been brought and incorporated into the Arab world.
The Arabs didn't want anything to do with them.
They kept them living in- They just said, Egypt and Jordan just said they're not going to take any people from Gaza.
Because the last time they did, they tried to overthrow their king.
I don't blame them.
I don't blame them!
They're aware.
Okay, would you want to take in Hamas people into your country?
I wouldn't.
No.
Well, you know, that means they're going to bring them here, I think.
Because there's a lot of Jews here and they don't like that.
So we'll see.
That's what I think.
Oh, there's a big push to bring him in for sure.
I'm just saying this.
Look, I definitely understand humanity.
I have empathy.
Okay.
I have empathy for the plight that they're going to.
A lot of it's not their fault.
I get it.
But At the end of the day, are these people anti-Semitic?
The answer is yes.
The vast majority, every study done, the vast majority of Palestinians are anti-Semitic.
I know that.
I've spent time with them.
So I know that anecdotally, and the data shows it.
I'm just saying, I'm not sure at a time where anti-Semitism is going through the roof, I need to import more anti-Semites.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
America itself seems to be turning more and more anti-Semitic too.
So I don't know.
I don't know, maybe people will get what they want, maybe people will get what they ask for.
Maybe they do, you know, if you even watch videos and read what's under them, it's the Jew, the Jew, the Jew, the Jew.
And, you know, we have to talk about why there are so many Jews in the window, you know, for the window dressing.
Why are there so many Jews that are in the window Why are they being used like that?
You know what I mean?
You really have to talk about that too.
But we won't do that today.
I'm just saying, you know, it's all the same people.
It's all the same hands that it's always been.
It's very biblical, actually.
I'm seeing it in that way.
It's the same fight it's always been.
They don't like, uh, I think that a lot of it is, you know, they really despise women's rights, honestly.
They hate that.
Well, they hate women.
Yeah.
They hate women.
You know, I did a video that actually did about a year ago, came out about a year ago.
And oddly enough, in the last couple of days, it's picked up another couple million views just in the last day.
Actually, Deborah Messing, oddly enough, just reposted this video.
It's so weird.
Good for her.
But the video was on the plight of the LGBTQ in the Palestinian territories, right?
I didn't even look at Gaza, right?
Forget about Gaza and Hamas.
I looked at the moderate West Bank and the Palestinian Authority and showed what is happening to gay people, right?
Because you know, it's so funny.
You look at the left, and you look at their unholy alliance with radical Islam.
And on the surface, one wonders, what do the two have in common?
How could it be that people who purport to support women's rights, gay rights, human rights, would ally with people who have a fundamental disagreement with them on this?
Disagreement is the wrong way of putting it.
An existential difference on how they view those things.
to their allies on the left.
On the surface it makes no sense, right?
But when you start to dig a little bit deeper, you then start to have an understanding of why it is.
I've spent a lot of time and mental energy trying to figure it out, and I think I have.
So at the end of the day, I think the most powerful and most damaging and most corrosive human emotion
that exists is feeling like a victim.
There's nothing more powerful because if you think about it, it's such a warm fuzzy feeling because I can say all my problems are not mine, they're yours.
You made my problem so I don't have to change anything about me.
You have to change.
I'm the victim.
Now, when you look at these left-wing groups, What do they have in common?
They're all victims.
They all feel like victims.
So they look out at the Palestinians and the Muslim Brotherhood and radicalism and say, you're victims too.
So therefore we have this cult of victimhood, this brotherhood of victimhood, which is so powerful that it outweighs even their most ostensibly fundamental beliefs of human rights.
That's how powerful this is.
Well, I have to say when I look around, what I see is a bunch of privileged, a bunch of privileged bourgeois kids speaking for, it's all colors, bougie kids, privileged, living in privilege, speaking for, taking it upon themselves to be this, you know, the great saviors.
of the people that their families oppress.
That's how I see it.
It's hypocrisy to the millionth degree, but what they've triangulated in their consciousness is, I'm privileged, therefore I will speak for the oppressed and then I get off the guilt trip and I don't have to do anything.
But in order for me to speak for the oppressed, I also have to silence the oppressed and not let them speak for themselves because, you know, they're basically really stupid and otherwise they wouldn't be oppressed.
So you're so right.
They're self-righteous gene, I call it.
They agitate their self-righteous gene.
And I think self-righteousness is the most... That's the one that allows you to go kill.
It's worse than feeling victim.
To feel like the crusader.
And the jihadi and the revolutionary, that's far more dangerous than feeling like the victim.
The victim can become the victor, but those people never can.
That's what they're really afraid of too. Is that the victim their victim their families victims
Would become Victor and then hold them The Savior accountable and I see that that is happening now
right now. I heard today through some of my Things that come to me that
Gaza is now in a civil war which is happening everywhere is Israel's in a civil war.
America's in a civil war.
Everybody's in a civil war.
China's in a civil war.
Iran's in a civil war.
Everybody's in a civil war, but Gaza's in a civil war because the PLO has just declared war on Hamas in Gaza.
Did you know that?
I didn't know.
I didn't hear that they declared war, although clearly they've been fighting for decades.
They're attacking Hamas in Gaza right now.
The PLO is back and they're attacking Hamas.
Hamas killed the people who were trying to get to the Rafah gate.
Which Egypt finally opened because Egypt is so at fault that they never let those people get out of there.
So anyway, they finally were forced to open the gate and send in water and supplies instead of making Israel do all of it.
Israel's the only country that sends supplies in there.
And so, you know, it's so sick that Roger Waters is so sick.
But anyway, Egypt finally was forced to do something besides just sit there and say no.
But Hamas was actually bombing the people who are trying to get to the gate of the Egyptian.
You know, that's how evil they are.
So it's, you know, they're Nazis, so you can see that they would kill Jews with glee, but they're also ISIS. So of
course, they're gonna kill Palestinians like they did everywhere.
They've done that everywhere, Syria, everywhere. They're ISIS.
This is their chant.
This is not me saying what they say.
This is what they say.
Their chant is, we love death like you love life.
This is not me saying what they believe.
This is them saying it.
Death means nothing to them because ultimately they're going to be rewarded by Allah.
So it doesn't matter if they send their children to death because the way they view it is they're going to be rewarded in the afterlife.
But that's a small, but that's, I mean, it's a large number, but it's a small percentage of Muslim, because Muslim people, they feel abhorred by all this, too, because that's not, you know, it's not, you know, righteous Muslim people don't go for all that crap.
I'm talking about the mosque.
I'm talking about Kabbalah.
Oh, yeah.
But, you know, they don't do it in the name of Islam.
They're not religious people.
ISIS isn't really religious.
They just hide behind that, you know.
They don't really believe in God or anything.
Oh, I don't know who they are.
Really?
I don't either.
Yeah, they are very much believers.
They are very true believers.
True.
They are true believers.
The one thing I'll give them credit for is that they are honest when they're not.
They're not.
They're not shitting around when it comes to that.
They are.
They are.
They are real.
They are true believers.
Really?
In Allah?
Sure.
Absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I guess we have people on our side that think you should kill everybody, too.
Just, you know, I don't know.
Neither.
I mean, look... Nobody wants to talk, do they?
Nobody wants to talk things through.
No, look, evil is not... There's no monopoly on evil on the Islamic side.
There's enough evil to go around all across the world.
White, black, Hispanic, Chinese, Christian, Muslim, Jewish man.
Evil doesn't congregate around one particular religion or skin color or ethnicity.
No, it never does.
But I mean, you know, the Torah says that if you have hate, that draws demons to you and then they eat your soul.
So it's just that people could be able or have the ability to feel hate to that level, you know?
That's astonishing.
It's astonishing.
I don't even know if they really are like the rest of us.
There's something else.
There's something different.
Look, I think they're built differently for sure.
That's the scary part.
Here's the thing.
There's no reasoning with them.
Right.
So when I when I spent time with Hamas, and I spent a couple weeks with them, and I'm undercover, so I can't really, I can't leave.
What's that?
How did you get undercover with I want to hear about this.
How did you get into undercover with Hamas?
Um, you know, a guy who knows a guy knows a guy, essentially.
I have, I don't wanna get into the details of how I'm able to portray who I am to them, but I have an ability, a way to have, to show them my, my bona fides that I've created, that I've created.
Okay.
So they believed I was who I said I was.
Okay.
And if I if that if I lost that I'd be dead.
Yeah.
But it holds and it's nerve wracking, right?
It's not a comfortable thing to do.
It's amazing.
It's like it's just the amount I don't know how these people my hats are off that people are undercover for years at a time.
I don't know how they do it.
It plays with your soul and your nerves and your heart.
It's just every part of you is tense all the time.
And you have to pretend like you're not tense, right?
That is the ultimate.
I think I'd be a good actor.
That is the ultimate acting job is pretending with bloodthirsty animals.
You're somebody else knowing that they know you.
That sounds like the writers room on the Roseanne show.
Wait, so you're embedded with Hamas.
Forget how you got there.
I want to know why you why you would go to that.
Because I'm an idiot?
You know what's so fucking frustrating, Roseanne?
What?
You spend this time, you're undercover, you do this great video, and you put it out, and then, I don't know, maybe three million people saw that interview, and then the next video after that is a cat playing with a ball of string, and that asshole gets two or three million views, and you're like, I'm in the wrong business!
I know.
I know. I know.
What did you learn with Hamas?
Can you, what did you- So look, a lot.
And one thing I learned was that there's no, there's no reasoning.
There's no like, hey, let me explain to you the other position and maybe you'll misunderstand them and maybe you'll go, oh, I had an epiphany.
These dudes aren't so bad.
They're just like, that doesn't happen.
That's not a thing with Hamas.
I learned that.
Okay.
One could argue I could have learned that without putting my life in danger.
Fair enough.
But they also, it's like they never said Israel or Zionist.
They kept saying Jews, Jews, Jews.
They hate Jews.
And to my Jewish friends on the left who think, hey man, just give them a piece of land and they're all good.
No, they're not all good, right?
As long as you're breathing Jew in Poughkeepsie, Jew in Scarsdale, Jew wherever, you're on their list, brah.
Right?
Give them a little bit of land.
Ain't going to satiate their bloodlust.
And I think, you know, again, intellectually, I knew this already.
It's just all the stuff that I didn't really learn anything particularly new.
Just that it's one thing to know it intellectually and theoretically.
It's something else to have somebody look you in the eye and tell you all these things face to face over a cup of Turkish coffee.
Right?
Yeah.
But that it would be it's kind of funny and horrifying that People would think that Nazis are going to be friends with Jewish people.
Right.
You know, yes.
Yes, of course.
It is a dumb, naive... naive isn't even the word.
I mean, it's a ludicrous thought.
But the Jewish people will run over there.
Hey, I want to be your friend.
I'll march with you.
Some of the things we can agree on together.
I wish they would do that.
I have to admit, okay, I know I just call these people stupid naive and I have to admit I sometimes feel that way.
Like, like I, you know, I had a meeting with the head of the KKK in North Carolina, right?
And I don't know, a part of me and not a part of me, like I had this conversation with this guy, right?
This is a man, just to give you some context.
This guy is so insane.
He went to jail for murdering another KKK guy.
Cause they got an argument on who's the most racist.
Okay.
So we set the stage.
Okay.
So I go to this guy's ranch in North Carolina, and you know, once you cross over from the main road, which is like a one lane road, it's like a, you know, five minute drive deep into like the woods where you get a little nervous.
And I sat there and I was trying to like, why do you hate black people and Jews?
I mean, I don't understand it.
Can you, they're just the same.
And we said, we want the same pizza, you know, let's get laid.
And he, you know, he looked at me like I was like, I, like I was such a dummy.
Like, how are you trying to make an argument for me not to hate these people?
Right.
It was like, but part of me felt like we're, we're in a room together one-on-one, right.
We're human to human.
I can convince him because I'm so, Full of myself, that I convince him to stop hating Jews and black people, whoever, because it just doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm guilty.
I do that too sometimes.
I get the impulse, but I know, like, I've lived this life long enough.
I've lived in those shoes to know, yeah, there's no, evil is evil, straight up.
You gotta eradicate it, straight up.
There's no two ways about it.
Well, you can pray that it'll dissipate.
I think that's a real good way of doing it, because that don't take any blood, you know?
You could pray to dissipate it, because I really think it is up to God, and I do think that God's in control of everything.
I think that's why He gave us the Torah, and the Torah tells us that, you know, This is his story.
He's the author.
We're just in it.
We can't change it.
Dissipation is a brilliant way of putting it.
It really is.
I grew up in Los Angeles.
When I grew up, as a kid in the 80s, My synagogue and my school, my Jewish school, every year, every year, at least once or twice a year, would be desecrated.
You know, neo-Nazis, broken windows, every year.
It was so common all around LA and the country.
Never even made the news, right?
Because it just, it happened.
And at the time, All of the attacks on Jews in the 80s were the province of just the hard right.
Neo-Nazis, skinheads, that was 100% who was involved in this kind of shenanigans.
And then what happened was the 90s kind of came and then the late 90s and it kind of just went away and it kind of dissipated.
Like it just, the ideals of the KKK and neo-Nazis, which were maybe strong in the 70s and 80s, just went away.
It just, like you said, it was dissipated.
There was no tolerance for it across the country.
They had no power whatsoever.
And if there was ever like a synagogue desecrated, it made the news.
It was so rare.
So rare.
Because that was what happened.
Then, look, life is a cycle, right?
And around 10 years ago, it just came back.
Now, it came back differently.
Now, you still have the neo-Nazis and the KKK, but they're just a small, tiny part of it, right?
There's no big KKK movement around this country.
But the majority of the attacks that were happening now came from the hard left and the radical Islamic allies.
If you look at the school campuses, the neo-Nazi, I'm sorry, the anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi crap you see there, that's not by white supremacists.
They're too stupid to get into college.
They're not attending college.
These are, like you said, the bourgeoisie on the left who perpetrate this kind of evil and this kind of hate.
It comes from their side now.
Well, they're taught to do so in college.
That's why the greatest thing you can do for your children is not send them.
Correct.
You know, thank God I never went.
I dropped out in ninth grade.
That's why I'm still sane and creative and successful, I think.
And I can think and create.
But, you know, I won't go into any family stories.
I want to, but I won't.
I love you.
You have great family stories.
You had such a wonderful childhood.
I did.
I really did.
I was raised on wonderful Nazi lore.
Survivors of that.
So that's really deeply embedded in me.
I see it.
Sometimes I'm like, God, why'd you give me these eyes?
Me and my sister both say, why do I have to see this when nobody else is seeing it?
But I was like, I guess I'm supposed to or something.
But I do see it because I saw it.
So once you see, you can't unsee, you know, and it's just horrifying.
But yeah, I like that you said the Jews are the canary in the coal mine, and that is exactly true, because what starts with the Jews, it never ends with the Jews.
It ends with the destruction of the entire country, as witnessed Germany and all of Europe.
So it never just ends with the Jews, and people have to see that.
The Jews are, you know, like every other minority group, including Palestinians.
And, you know, there's just a certain... It seems that we have the enemy within.
All people have an enemy within that enriches itself by trading in the lives of its own people.
That's how you get successful in so many ways in politics.
Under a fourth Reich, you turn in your own and you get rewarded.
And that's, you know, the enemy Within and I know that you know, Israel is full of those Israel is full of people who hate The Jewish state and I don't even know why they live there But you know, it's like America is full of people who hate the Constitution and they hate America, you know it's just the way things are right now, but
I think it is so that people are forced to choose which things they stand for, which values they want to claim, and then live or die by them.
I think that we're in that age.
Yeah, I mean, look, this attack, it came at a very interesting time, right?
It came on our holiest day.
Yeah, I don't mean that.
I mean, it came at a time where Israelis were at each other's throats.
It came at a time where the country was ripping itself apart, both when it comes to religious and secular, right and left.
It was a very difficult time for anybody who loves the state of Israel to watch Jews, fellow Jews, at each other's throats in a way that was so horrific.
And it's interesting to see how, you know, look, Jews were able to put all that aside in an instant.
And come together under horrific circumstance to fight together, to unite together, to cry together.
And I would like to think that there's any positive that comes from something so horrific and terrible is that Jews after this will look at each other and say, you know, maybe the stuff we're fighting with were such small, such small, tiny, little, insignificant things, you know?
What blew my mind is to see the Christian soldiers in the IDF.
That was very moving to me.
And there are Kurdish soldiers in the IDF and, you know, some Muslim soldiers too.
And I was like, wow, that is a great gathering of all the tribes there to fight for Freedom to not want to live under a caliphate.
And that is what Israel stands for above all else, even through the many deep state problems they have, like we do here in America.
And so I think everything eventually And ultimately works for the betterment and the good, you know, even when it's horrific.
And that's the lesson of history for the Jewish people, I think.
And for everybody.
You are wise and sage, the great Roseanne Barr.
I'm an old Jewish lady that likes to stick my nose in everybody's business.
And you know, I mean, I have traveled the world sticking my nose in everybody's business to figure out why are things so shitty when they could be so great.
And when I was in Israel, you know, one thing I always made a point to pray with Muslim and Christian women together for, you know, uh, The elevation of our intelligence that we could solve the problems of humanity together, because there's no reason we can't.
And then we would all dance together too, which is a wonderful thing, where we express joy in the physical world together, which is a real celebration of the Creator.
And seeing the effect that causes in the world.
And so I'm just thinking of that memory, those memories, and trying to access it.
We're going to get smarter than all this evil shit that's so obsolete.
We have a whole new way of doing things.
And I think we're going to go to it.
I think we're going to go to where we start seeing war and all this death as obsolete and get smarter.
We can get smarter.
And a lot of us already are.
And I just pray that the people who are in those positions of power, if they are Jewish and they have a Jewish soul, maybe it woke them up too.
And they would come back to the human beings.
And all those other people too, if they have a soul, they come back to the human beings.
Because the human beings don't want bloodshed, war, and hatred.
The human beings want a nice place to raise their kids and their grandkids.
Because they're intelligent and they don't want a big old pyramid with Just a few at the top at the expense of the many.
Intelligence tells us that.
And so, the greatest weapon of all that, Ami, why I admire you and I'm so appreciative for you being here today, is the greatest weapon against that kind of insane power is laughter, and laughing it to scorn, which you do very, very well.
And, you know, I see you as a great warrior against bullshit.
Right?
And that's what it is all about.
I don't tolerate bullshit.
Ask my kids.
I'm curious.
What do you think of that mural of you in Machane Yehuda?
Oh my God, that was so amazing.
I was there, you know, and I had given a speech there about Jewish history and about the Nakba of one million Jews.
And so they said, oh, we have a surprise for you.
And I said, okay.
And they said, we're going to the Shuk, which I always love to go to, because I just eat my way from one end to the other.
It's such good food.
It doesn't taste like no food here in the U.S.
It's like a real tomato that's not a Monsanto tomato, but it is like a tomato.
Good bars, too.
Oh yeah!
And music, everything.
So we're going down there and I'm like, what's my surprise?
They got me a cake.
We turned over the street and I'm like, oh, they got me a chocolate cake.
So I turned there and there it was on my portrait.
And it just was astounding.
I could not believe it.
I was just astounded.
And I was so honored and humbled.
God, I felt like that was my, what do you call it that we're all supposed to leave behind?
Our legend?
Yeah, there it is right there.
And thank you.
Thank you, everybody.
Well, your legacy is bigger than that, but it's a nice token.
You know, sometimes I'm like, I'm going to fly over there to Israel and run for Prime Minister because I'm as smart as Golda and I smoke as much as she did.
She was so smart because she smoked, I think.
I want to say, Ami, first of all, your YouTube channel, which I think is one of the greatest.
I can't believe that the Hamas didn't look at you and go, this guy's a Jew.
That's what I was thinking.
How did you get to KKK member's house with that face?
That's what I want to know.
Thank God!
People are dumber than you think.
You can check him out at youtube.com forward slash at Ami Horowitz.
A-M-I-H-O-R-O-W-I-T-Z.
And I gotta say, I gotta speak for 10 seconds.
Ami, you are responsible, in my opinion, for two of the greatest Absolutely.
Videos that have ever existed on the internet.
I'm curious which ones those are.
The Berkeley students react to the ISIS flag when you... the ISIS flag and the Israeli flag.
Everyone check it out.
And to me, it's off topic from Israel, but the greatest video of all time, my mom can attest, I talk about it probably once a day.
And that was, is voter ID racist?
I don't know what it's titled.
But you had all the white libs talking about how black people were too poor and too dumb to get IDs at the DMV.
And then you went and interviewed black people.
And they're like, yeah, the DMV is right down the street.
The greatest video, in my opinion, of all time.
A racist liberal.
You know what's so funny?
You know what's so funny? That particular video, I was like,
It was okay.
It was fine.
And I was like, I didn't think much of it.
And then it's just like, you just don't know.
That thing's well over 100 million views.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're huge.
And what it did was, I was like, I thought it was an okay video.
I don't think it was one of my greats.
And some of the great videos, you're like, this is my greatest video.
What do you think is your greatest video?
I did a video, which I loved, where I went to Ireland with hidden cameras.
And I was, I was, I pretended.
So I went to like different likes, like a, like a owner of, um, of a chain of bookshops, a department store.
I went to, and all of them had one thing in common.
They were all following BDS.
They wouldn't buy any Israeli products.
So I had hidden cameras and I went into the bookstore.
I was like, yeah, I'm selling these leather handmade diaries from North Korea.
I represent North Korea.
He goes, why are they so cheap?
I go, well, we make them with slave labor so we can afford you.
And he goes, that's great.
That's great.
I kid you not.
And then I go to like this department store, this supermarket.
I'm selling saffron from Iran.
And I go, I know you guys care about the environment.
I go, these have zero carbon footprint because all of our political prisoners, we give them no water or heat, electricity.
So there's no, they go, oh, that's what's wonderful.
I thought it was funny, I don't know.
But I'll say this, you were talking about before, if we have a second.
Of course, we can talk forever.
You were talking about it, it's so true, and this voter ID video really connects to what you were talking about.
How this idea of these white, middle, upper class kids speaking for black people, it actually was, it created for me a bit of a cottage industry.
Now about a third of my videos are videos where I go talk to white leftists about like, one of my, again, one of my favorite videos was I asked them about, why is there higher black obesity?
And they said, you can't if I had a writer's room, writing their answers, I could not have come up with they came with they came up with what do they say?
So white so black people, they there's so much racism, they stress eat.
They have to eat to cope with the racism.
This is literally what they told me.
Okay.
Or they said, Well, black people don't understand what food is good for them or bad for them.
These people are telling me On camera.
And then of course I go to the black community and I go, why is there black obese?
They go, because we eat like shit.
And they said, look, we didn't know, but we have to make choices.
We make poor choices.
We have to eat.
I mean, they said the things that you and I would say with common sense, but these white assholes, these white leftist assholes know better.
They know better than those dumb black people who don't know, can't think for themselves.
We need to tell them what's good for them.
It's sick.
It's the most insidious type of racism.
They're the most racist people I've ever seen since, I mean, I wasn't in the 40s, but since the Nazis, from my understanding of history, the American leftist today is the most racist, in my opinion, since the Nazis.
Yeah, we love the Democrats.
That's why we left, Ma.
We saw it.
And we're like, holy shit, these people don't speak for me.
These people are racist assholes.
I don't want to be it.
I don't want to hang out with these people.
That's why we walked away, quote unquote.
And yet we're the ones that are constantly, well, you are not me, but you are constantly thrown the racist- I'm a racist anti-Semite.
Yeah, hold us tonight.
And a Holocaust denier, don't forget.
I called you after that, right?
Sick controversy.
If I can, I was a Democrat and a leftist on me for a long, long time.
My mother took me to Israel.
Uh, to get me a Jewish wife.
That was her plan.
I didn't know it at the time, but I was actually able to.
I said, get over there to that wall and pray for a decent Jewish wife right now.
She did.
But what I want to say is I didn't know as most American leftists and most American people don't.
And the reason I'm bringing this up is because if you go on social media right now, There's debates between the all right and the left, which is who's the bigger Jew hater.
And one thing that people don't know, which I really would like us to talk about, is that today, if the three of us were to go to Jerusalem to pray, there are certain spots we cannot go in without armed guards.
Because the people that I'm, I'm going to be very, very smart about how I say this, but there are certain sections within Jerusalem that you, the three of us cannot go and pray at without armed guards in certain times of the day.
So one of the things people don't know because American leftists are so into that victim mentality that you explained on me brilliantly.
Is that if Israel is an apartheid state, if we're as bad and Jews are as bad as everyone says, why can't we pray at our holiest site within the city of Jerusalem?
And it's one thing that I never see talked about.
And I think American leftists, if they understood that if we were to go pray at the rock where Abraham was told, kill your son by God, which is in all the Judeo Christian books, we could not do it.
Right now, without... And by the way, now that you can't pray, one small correction, now you can't pray unless you have armed guards.
You can't pray no matter what.
You can bring all the armed guards you want.
I thought there were certain times of the day you could.
I'll tell you what, though.
Hold on.
So you can't pray at all at Al-Aqsa Mosque?
No, no.
And that's in Jerusalem?
You can't pray there or at the Dome of the Rock.
This is the spot where Abraham was going to kill his son.
This is the spot where Jacob had his dream.
This is the spot of the holy of holies, of the Beit HaMikdash.
The holy temple was on this spot.
And it was a spot where they say that Mohammed ascended to heaven.
Who has control of that right now?
The Wokf.
The Wokf.
The King of Jordan.
So in Israel, people in America understand in Israel, Jews today cannot pray at their holiest site at all.
And yet we are in a apartheid state.
Shut up.
Let me say this.
We are in a apartheid state according to them.
Shut up both of you.
Listen up.
But I went directly there to the Dome of the Rock.
And by God, I prayed my ass off.
I love it.
I prayed all day, you know?
Then I went down to the Al-Aqsa Mosque there, me and my mom, we prayed all day there too.
You know what?
Nobody has to know when you're praying.
Don't politicize prayer.
That's what it's really about.
All their bullshit.
You can pray wherever you want.
You don't make a big ritual of it, so who needs that?
Yeah, you don't put your talus and your tefillin and your shekel with the mezuzah!
That's for show.
That's for show.
That isn't for God and you.
I was praying there all day.
I got hundreds of pictures of me and my mom walking around praying all day there.
You know, it's about, what is it?
Ego?
Or are you asking, or are you trying to connect with God?
Those are two different things and they shouldn't be.
But, you know, let's politicize everything.
Let's politicize mental illness.
Let's politicize fat.
Let's politicize everything.
But you know what?
It's all bullshit.
You can pray wherever you want, and you can connect to God whenever you want.
You don't need an intercessor.
You don't need nothing.
Yeah, you just need to pray.
Well, I agree.
And that's a great point.
I don't like all that politics where they do that.
That's a lot of that Jewish state crap.
No, but what I'm saying is... I want to redefine what is a Jewish state.
I've been writing about that for 25 years.
New York.
What would the proper Jewish state, that's a real Jewish state, what would that look like?
Well, for one thing, it wouldn't be under the control of the CIA and the anti-Semites in the American government, I'll tell you that much.
That would be better.
It wouldn't be living in fear of...
Getting bombed out by Iran either.
That's a good point.
I just think it's important to note that American leftists see Palestinians as a victim and Israel as a white oppressor.
And I just, the reason I brought that up is that it's not black and white on that side either.
And it's something that nobody talks about.
In fact, today was the first time I bet you most people listening to this podcast have ever heard Oh, yeah.
I know.
I know you do.
But you haven't talked about on this podcast.
And I just want to get that out.
Like it's you're you're I'm sitting here told that as far as an American leftist believe they believe everyone in Israel is white, and MAGA and and keeping the brown Palestinians under their boot.
That's what they think.
And it's not this is why we will be Goldberg specific.
This is Oh, my God, don't get me started on that.
God damn.
But look, it's a move.
It's a move.
And the move is, we have to portray Jews, and anybody who knows Jews, understand Jews are probably the most multicultural religion in the world, right?
And when she said, when Whoopi Goldberg said, for those who don't remember, she said, well, that was a problem between y'all white people, right?
Yes.
That was a dispute you guys had.
When they were putting our family in ovens, that was a dispute among y'all white people.
Now, forget about how disgusting it was in general to just wave off the Holocaust.
Forget that for a second, if you can.
He didn't get fired.
No, no, no.
You get fired or or or what's it gets fired from the talk because she defends somebody who's not a racist.
Right.
Correct.
But she still has her job.
But the move is that if we have to portray all Jews as white people, because then it takes off the table the idea that they can also be victims and oppressors of the intersectional coalition of black people and gay people.
All the things that Jews are afraid to say to people.
It hides Black anti-Semitism.
That's the whole point of it.
And that is in every culture in America, every group, their group, the Black Americans, their anti-Semitism is off the chain.
And they feel entitled to it because they're being used by Nazis.
They're in the Lemming programming, and they're being used by North Rye.
Everyone has a claim to anti-Semitism right now.
You have it on the right, on the left.
It's every group in America.
She has a point there.
We're all being honest here.
I mean, look, there is a problem in the Black community.
I was recently on this called Black Information Network.
It's a very large radio syndicator of Black radio.
I think it's the largest radio syndicator in the urban space.
And they're left and they had me on for an hour to talk about black anti-semitism.
So I've done a couple of videos on it.
And he said, look, there is no question.
Now, again, the vast majority of black people are not anti-semitic.
But when you were looking at, I'm sure you guys I know remember, but I don't know about the rest of the audience, a couple years ago there was a spate, particularly in New York, of Jews being attacked and beaten on the streets.
It was all black people.
And the reason, and I did a video on that, right?
And again, I do a lot of videos.
about race because it's important to me.
And I have a large black following and I the racism of the left is one of the most despicable things I see.
But I call as I see it.
And there was there wasn't is a problem.
And you see it particularly among black celebrities, right?
Oh, yeah, because they can't work unless they say it.
That is They have to say it.
How a guy like Ice Cube gets a pass and is still vetted and still gets jobs.
He is the most violent piece of shit anti-Semite I have heard.
The stuff he has tweeted out and pushed out is vile, vile!
Yet he still is a working actor and celebrity in Hollywood.
And you can go across the board.
He has to say it.
He has to say it.
If he didn't say it, he wouldn't work.
It's true.
The Jew-run media is not the Zionist Jew-run media.
It's the leftist Jew-run media.
If the Jews run it all, where's my show, man?
The only people fired were me and what's-her-name.
She's Jewish, too, from the talk.
That's what we need to talk about.
It's COINTELPRO Lemming program.
They have to say it because they have to use the black, you know, because Jews and blacks used to be a block and, you know, they used to be a voting block.
You know, for liberal causes, which meant, at the time, building a middle class.
But I don't mean that no more.
They had to kill that.
Because, you know, the owners of the world, they didn't want that big block that led to a middle class for everybody.
They hate the middle class.
They don't want to have to share nothing.
They just want them and a bunch of slaves.
So, you know, they had to slice that off, and it was all MKUltra Mind Control, and it still is.
And black people are under heavy, heavy-duty MKUltra Mind Control, and so are the Jews, too, in Hollywood.
They all have to say that shit.
They have to say the shit they're saying, or they won't work.
Because, you know...
It works for the CIA.
You know, the biggest talent agency is a mouthpiece for the CIA.
And who is the CIA?
Private contractors.
A lot of them, they ain't even Americans.
A lot of them are Chinese.
Is that why the CIA won't represent me?
Yes.
For real.
Yeah.
Look, I think this, uh, this mind control, whatever it is, it ain't working so well anymore because let me tell you, I think in this next election, you're going to see an erosion in the black support for Democrats.
Well, we saw that in 2020.
I want to tell you, that's what happened in 2020 and why they had to get busy printing up all them fake ballots because they were scared shitless at the blacks got off their fence.
Plantation and voted Trump and they did.
So that's why they had to do what they did in that election and it'll all be shown too.
Well, it made it all work out.
You're going to see a much bigger, I predict, a much bigger move from the black vote moving toward the Republican.
Yeah, the racist, the racist, vile Donald Trump got more of the black vote than any Republican in recent memory, right?
And by the way, the anti-Hispanic Donald Trump got more of the Hispanic vote.
I think a third of the Hispanic vote went to Donald Trump.
Yeah!
People are seeing through the bullshit now.
They're seeing through the bullshit that comes across 24-7 on the media.
They're seeing through it.
It's like a miracle of God.
That people are getting the discernment to say, hey, I can decode this bullshit, and it just means basically the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
That's all it's about.
It's a class war, and they use all their fancy, you know, bullshit all trotted out in a new dress.
That's all it is.
They see, look, you're telling me, I promise you this had him when, when, when, when Joe Biden gets up, sits on, stands up and he goes, uh, voter ID laws is Jim Crow.
And then black people go, dude, do you know what Jim Crow was?
I don't know.
Maybe a history lesson on what Jim Crow was.
The Democrats voted for it.
Of course they did.
All the Dixie Democrats voted for it.
But blacks were looking at each other going, does Cracker know what he's talking about?
Jim Crow?
I mean, we're talking about black people not being able to sit in a restaurant or drink from a water fountain.
Fuck you saying that a voter ID is the same thing as that.
That's a disgusting comparison.
And that was not unnoticed by the black community.
For him to denude the power of Jim Crow, and when the left has taken away the word racism, it has no power anymore whatsoever.
It means nothing.
I think black people say, wait a second.
Why are you taking that power away?
Racism or racist is a powerful thing to put on somebody and you've taken it away from us.
And now there's when you, when everyone is racist, no one is racist.
And that's a big F you, the black community.
And they get it.
They understand what's going on.
Well, what I thought was great is what, what they're doing to Trump just shows what the black community.
And all minority and poor white people have known for a million years that the department, that the justice, like Paul Mooney said, you go down there looking for justice, that's what you find, just us.
He's a white comic.
What they're doing to Trump, they've been doing to the minority groups for 100 years, trumping up charges.
Trumping up, I just thought of that.
I saw what you did there!
I didn't do it on purpose, but it was a good mistake.
You know, they use trumped up charges and put people away for their lives when they're innocent.
And they know that because it happened on every street.
How many black men are in prison for Something that Hunter Biden gets away with.
All of them get away with.
From the 1994 crime bill.
Guess who wrote that?
Joe Biden.
Right.
And Kamala Harris in California would put a record number of black people in prison.
She put parents in jail because their kids were truant.
Black parents.
Yeah.
People are seeing, and I felt like in 2020 that black people saved America.
I vote in Trump, but they took it away from all of us.
But, you know, people are smarter than they think they are.
And, you know, that goes for in Israel too.
And it goes for democracies that guarantee equal rights to all people and to women mostly.
Those those are two countries that do so and that are not going to fall under the boot under the jackboot of the Nazi world order that that fucking shit is gone and Just keep praying it away and it will dissipate because there's nothing stronger than getting your soul plugged into the creator Just go to the wall and Plug it in that that's our power.
Don't forget that Any final words on me?
This is fun!
I had a good time!
It's fun having you!
You're great!
This is the best interview I've ever given!
Oh, you're so sweet.
Well, I love you.
We've been waiting a long time to get you on and talk to you.
And, uh, you know, pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
I will.
Every day.
Every day.
God bless you.
Thank you.
Pleasure.
Mom, you know, you and I have been talking about a product that is probably, I said it last time we did this, probably the most important thing outside of food and water you can get.
And that's... I think it is.
So tell the people what this is.
Well, it's a satellite phone, which will come in really handy if they shut down the grid or, you know, God forbid, anything like that happens and your cell phone doesn't work and you can't get in touch with your family or, you know, the police or any first responders or anything, God forbid, that would happen.
It keeps you connected to all the rest of the world.
So you're not isolated and alone and afraid.
It's like your power source to survival.
And it's pretty cool too, because one of the things people don't ever talk about with cell phones is that a cell phone coverage at best covers about 7% of the planet.
It's only 7% of the globe where your phone will work, but a satellite phone will work virtually anywhere.
I mean, the ocean, it just connects to satellite and it's good.
This one's good to go.
I can make a call right now, but, um, you know, one, Yeah, I shouldn't order pizza from the sat phone.
Well, that's the other thing, Ma, you can cover up your mass pizza ordering, because these are encrypted, they can't be tracked, and they can't be spied on.
So yeah, of course, if the grid goes down, or God forbid something horrible happens, this will get you to safety and get your family to safety.
But more importantly, this is not trackable, and it is encrypted.
So these are safe, private conversations.
So you could order 40 pizzas a day and not make TMZ.
I mean, it really is a godsend and it's so incredible that we would have that tool for us in what is like difficult and horrifying and terrorizing times.
This is something that everybody should have that has a family and knows what's going on and is at all informed about what terrible times we're living in, right?
Absolutely.
And it's one thing you and I talk about a lot, you know, we do a podcast, there is sponsorships, but you know, we turned down a lot of sponsorships that are selling bullshit.
Like we're, we're, we're in the fourth turning.
It's we're, we're in a very dangerous time.
If we're going to push a product, it's something that we use and something we believe in.
We do have this, this is a working phone.
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We wouldn't push it if we didn't think it's important.
That's all I want to say.
Yeah, it's really good because in Hawaii, you don't get cell service in most of the parts of the Big Island, so it's very helpful.
Even small things, like if you get a flat tire, it comes in handy for that kind of thing.
Not just your pizza deliveries.
But, you know, for everyday emergencies, which, God forbid, should befall you.
But even up to huge emergencies, like what happened in Lahaina.
Yeah.
Everybody should have one.
Everybody should have one.
That's my advice to everybody.
Absolutely.
I mean, we know what happened when people couldn't connect to their family or emergency services.
And it's, it's terrifying to think about.
So I'm going to read a couple things, Mal, so you don't have to.
What's that?
I'll listen.
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Um, you know, for a contract for a year or whatever, and they have all sorts of deals.
So this is one thing you need to know.
If you get one phone with 100 minutes included, that's about $120 a month for a two year commitment.
Um, but if you add phones, it goes down from there.
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So you can set up your family and a more cost effective way.
Now it's not cheap, but it is important.
And I would venture to say you might as well just, this is my opinion, cancel your cell phone service.
Uh, if you, if you're squeezed in Biden's economy and just go straight to satellite phone, it's a similar contract works the same way.
It'll work wherever you are.
Um, And then, you know, keep your, your cell phone for pictures and videos.
I do, I do think they should come out with these that'll take video and photo.
I know that they're working on it.
They might already have it.
They have texting devices you can find.
They have generators on this website.
It's great.
But, um, just keep in mind that it's a little bit of a commitment, but an important commitment.
And, uh, that's it.
Satellite one, two, I'm sorry, sat123.com or 855-980-5830.
I'm glad we could tell people about it, because I think it's going to be very important and very necessary.
I agree.
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