Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens now attack America, Israel, and Trump amid rising fringe rhetoric, with Owens peddling conspiracy theories like "assassin" plots targeting conservatives. Foreign-linked bots from Bangladesh, Poland, and Egypt amplify their claims, while Qatari funds allegedly push anti-Israel narratives despite mainstream GOP support. The MAGA movement risks association with figures like Nick Fuentes after Charlie Kirk’s assassination left a leadership void. Joel Pollock argues Trump’s policies—immigration restrictions, pro-Israel stance, and military backing—should be celebrated, not criticized, comparing Israel’s societal resilience to conservative fragmentation. Yet, rising Muslim populations in Canada, the UK, and Australia threaten Jewish expression, complicating Pollock’s optimism about cultural unity. Their debate reveals how profit-driven media and global tensions reshape conservative alliances. [Automatically generated summary]
I am boggled by what's going on with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, both of whom I really used to look up to, especially Tucker.
I really regarded him as a role model.
Now he spends all his time bashing America, bashing Israel, of course, and bashing Trump.
What is happening?
Well, we'll ask Joel Pollock, who is deep inside Republican circles.
He has been with Breitbart for years, and now he's with a new adventure.
We'll get all the details from him.
I hope he can help us explain it.
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What is going on in this battle between Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and the Republican Party?
It's November 28th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you sensorious bug.
Well, something bizarre has happened this year.
There's a lot of theories to explain what is behind it, but some very high-profile pundits, commentators, YouTubers, I would say they've gone mad, but there's a method to their madness.
I think there's a strategy behind it.
Tucker Carlson, to whom I used to look up, I mean, he was a bit of a hero to me.
I appeared on his show on Fox News several times.
It was really a highlight moment for me in my career.
I really looked up to the guy, but in the last six months or so, he's, in my mind, turned against everything he stood for.
And now he's on an anti-Israel and I think anti-Trump and even anti-American tear.
I just don't get it.
I regard him as an intellectual of sorts.
Candace Owens is no intellectual, but she's a very articulate and compelling speaker.
She also came from, at least recently, a place on the right.
She was a left-wing Democrat activist who then saw the light, became a conservative Republican darling on Daily Wire.
And she's gone, I hate to say it, I think it's a kind of madness.
But again, I don't think it's accidental.
I think there's a strategy behind it.
She's one of the most watched podcasts in the world.
I think it got a little bit out there when she talked about her theory that Emmanuel Macron married a man.
But now I think it's gone even crazier where she's talking about assassins.
She's being tipped off, that French and Israeli assassins are out together.
Normally, I don't think I would report on the madness of these folks, but I think that there's such a pendulum shift towards this kind of confused, demoralized punditry.
I don't know what's going on.
Maybe it's because I'm in Canada and I haven't really been at the heart of these things.
I don't work for Daily Wire.
I don't know Fox News.
But someone who I think is at least on the margins of these folks and probably knows them better than I do is our friend Joel Pollock.
He used to be the senior editor-at-large of Breitbart.com.
I'm delighted to report to you that he will be the incoming opinion editor at a new newspaper to be launched in the new year in California called the California Post, which will be modeled after its sister publication in New York, the New York Post, one of the most popular newspapers in America.
Joining us now via Zoom is Joel Pollock.
First of all, Joel, congratulations on the California Post.
Thank you very much.
And I hope you'll excuse the California informality of my attire here, but I'm juggling several things today, including Thanksgiving cooking and a sick toddler.
So at all here, before we jump into Candace and Tucker, give me one minute on the California Post.
I love the New York Post.
It's got that scrappy tabloid style.
Give me just one minute on what the California Post is going to be.
Well, it will bring that style to California, and it's going to fill a gap right now because there is no right-of-center publication in California, and there's no publication that covers the state as a whole.
You do have large newspapers like the San Francisco Chronicle and the L.A. Times having something of a reach into Sacramento politics in the state capitol, but you don't really have any publication that reflects the state's identity as a whole.
And so this publication is moving into that vacuum, and the California Post is going to finally hold up a mirror to California and give people an opportunity to understand what is being done to the most beautiful state in the union and to one of the most beautiful places in the world.
It's really a tragedy how poorly California is run and what's happening to it culturally.
It's got so much going for it.
But, you know, Dennis Prager used to ask me, why do you still live in California?
And I used to say, well, we've got the mountains, we've got the ocean.
And now they've ruined both of those things.
The California Los Angeles fires of January 7th, which you covered, you came to visit me in my hometown.
You came to my house.
You saw what happened.
And this is very much about that.
I was very happy at Brightbright News, great colleagues, very comfortable in my situation, very influential in terms of its reach into D.C. politics.
But when the California Post became a thing, it was almost irresistible to become involved and really try to make an impact there.
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And we're not talking about necessarily a political impact in terms of Republicans and Democrats, but really a shift in mindset.
Well, I look forward to it very much.
And the LA Times is radically left-wing on certain issues.
They have sort of a quirky owner who maybe can't be pinned down on all things.
But I think it'll be much needed out there.
And hopefully it'll move the dial.
All right, I want to switch back to what's going on.
I don't know if I'd call it the online right, because I don't think Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and repeaters of them can genuinely be called right-wing.
You know, they all say they're against Trump.
They despise Trump.
They think Trump is a sellout.
I think they demoralize Americans.
And I'm not an American, but I feel demoralized by it.
You see Tucker challenging basic narratives like that the West were the good guys in World War II.
He's saying Churchill was the enemy, the nuclear bomb was immoral, and maybe Hitler wasn't as like he has guests on who say these things unchallenged.
He had Nick Fuentes on, a rabbit anti-Semite who endorsed Stalin, and Tucker just sort of nodded along.
Candace Owens feels a little bit like Jussie Smollett.
Her latest emissions sound crazy, but what can I say?
These people appear, I say appear because it might be some fake bots there, but they appear to have a massive audience.
What on earth is going on with the troll right?
Well, they do have a massive audience and there are fake bots.
We learned over the last few days since Elon Musk rolled out a new feature on X that allows you to see where some of these accounts are based, that some of the most vociferously anti-Israel and sometimes anti-Trump accounts on the so-called right are run by people in Bangladesh and in Poland and in Egypt and in East Asia and all kinds of places that have nothing to do with the United States.
So there have been a lot of people masquerading as Trump supporters who have turned against him because of Israel or whatever, which turned out not to be the case.
But look, Trump and Candace do have large audiences.
Let me take a step back and just talk about the environment here.
There are two big factors.
One is the cancel culture of the Biden administration, which really destroyed faith among conservative viewers and listeners and readers in mainstream media and created an audience for people whose views are suppressed.
And when you talk about marginalized people, you're talking about people with legitimate views, such as critics of COVID policies.
And you're also talking about some people with some rather difficult views, such as neo-Nazis or Stalinists on the left and so forth.
So you're getting a mixed bag.
And then the other side of it is that the online podcasting world, social media world, has its own business environment that is heavily dependent on money coming in through advertising and sponsors.
And many of these podcasts are getting a lot of clicks and views, but not a lot of sponsors.
So they are persuadable in one direction or another if they get a lot of funding from one or two sources.
So what I think is happening is, on the one hand, you've got people who are becoming more extreme in their views because they feel canceled.
And there's an audience for them because people are more willing to listen to marginalized voices than they were in the past.
Sometimes, for example, the Anti-Defamation League, which was founded as a Jewish civil rights organization, has been too vociferous in accusing people of anti-Semitism in many cases before they've actually done anything anti-Semitic.
And this has been a criticism I've made for many years as a Jewish person myself.
And so I think they've pushed people into a column that is, shall we say, at least hostile to Israel, if not always hostile to the Jewish community itself.
And that, I think, is where Tuck is and Tucker and Candace really began their drift.
But then you've also got this business environment where you have to say outrageous things to draw eyes, to draw ears, to draw clicks, and where there are investors, some of whom are named, some of whom are unknown, who are able to push the coverage in a particular direction.
I've been hearing stories, for example, of a lot of Qatari money floating around the influencer world.
Of course, the accusation comes back the other way.
They say, well, there's a lot of pro-Israel money floating around out there.
That's a relatively new thing.
I know the Israeli government now is trying to hire influencers to push the case for Israel.
But there has been so much more money spent on the anti-Israel side.
And you see it.
You see it in the podcast.
You see it in some of the online influencers who don't have to disclose their sources of funding, at least to the public.
So I think those two things are combining.
I do think that the American public remains very solidly pro-Israel.
I think the Republican Party remains very solidly pro-Trump and pro-American, pro-Israel.
But you are seeing this as a social media phenomenon.
You know, one thing that I saw suggested down there in the States, which is different from here in Canada or the UK, is Canada, we were set to elect a conservative government, and then that went off the rails in the last few months, particularly as Trump talked about annexing Canada.
The UK has an atrocious Labor government that's trying to handle the emergence of Islamic independent candidates on the left.
So in Canada and the UK, there are enormous battles for commentators to fight for freedom, for low taxes against censorship.
Like we have our plates full with things to fight over.
In America, you're a rambunctious right-wing MAGA type.
You've got the dream president who not only is doing pretty much everything he promised, but he's coming up with new things that you never thought of.
And he's so productive and so energetic that every week there's another win.
Trump said you're going to get tired of winning.
I remember when he said that.
And I think some pundits, what do they do?
Like, literally, what could you ask for Trump to do in terms of his agenda that he hasn't done?
I mean, you can criticize him outside that, but he's stopped mass immigration.
He's deporting people.
He's doing trade deals.
He's strengthening the military.
He's getting peace without war.
I mean, I guess you could be a bored podcaster who goes really nuts on Emmanuel Macron's wife, maybe.
I mean, maybe just boredom and wanting conflict is part of it, too.
I think Qatar is a bigger part of it, and the business model is a bigger part of it.
I don't know.
What do you think of that theory?
I think you're right.
I think some people are tired of winning.
And look, opposition is good for the media business model.
When you are the party in opposition, you draw more eyeballs.
Your media company can gin up subscriptions.
I mean, look what happened to the New York Times and the Washington Post during the first Trump term.
The Washington Post changed their slogan to democracy dies in darkness.
Okay, this really sanctimonious idea.
But they drew so many more subscribers.
The New York Times had been failing.
It was falling apart, laying people off.
They drew so many subscribers by being anti-Trump.
Opposition is also good on the conservative side.
So you've got Trump in there.
He's doing everything you wanted him to do.
And yes, you would think logically, if you really care about the issues that you're purporting to support as a pundit, as a commentator, you should say, great, let's take this further.
How can we apply the lessons of winning in this context to other contexts?
I mean, that's been my approach, for example, on Israel.
Donald Trump intervened in the 12-day war, took out Iran's nuclear sites, and restored America's military deterrent, was part of a massive military success, a diplomatic success that led to the Gaza ceasefire.
Why wouldn't you want to expand that, learn from it, export it, celebrate it?
No.
The pundits on the right who are in this online space, many of them decided that this wasn't good enough or that it somehow wasn't America first.
They linked it to Jeffrey Epstein, saying that the only reason we could support Israel is if Jeffrey Epstein was controlling our politics.
There was some disappointment with the way the Trump administration handled the so-called Epstein files, but I don't know that there's much more to that story.
Anyway, this became a conspiracy theory on which to hang the ginned up opposition to Trump's very successful foreign policy.
I think the shorthand is conspiracy theories are a form of opposition that is particularly potent in the social media world and the podcasting world.
And look, there's no older or deeper conspiracy theory than conspiracy theories about Jews and about Israel.
And so they're all now going to that mine and mining it for all it's worth.
Not very much, but there's a very long way to go and a lot of material.
And that's what they're doing.
And it's become a business model.
And again, I don't think it's swaying opinion, but it is very disturbing.
And I don't think it's helping Trump at all.
I do think the only effect it's really going to have is it is going to split the MAGA movement.
And I'll give you the example that everyone's talking about here in Washington, D.C., where I happen to be when I'm not in Los Angeles, which is the Heritage Foundation.
The Heritage Foundation is the conservative think tank.
It's been there for decades.
It's highly regarded, well-respected, incredible researchers, academic-level work, but on the conservative side.
Their policy papers are so respected that even Democrats read them.
The Heritage Foundation is now at odds with itself and in a state of constant revolt because the chair or the president of the Heritage Foundation, this guy, Kevin Roberts from Texas, he came out and defended Tucker Carlson after Tucker Carlson hosted neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes on his show.
Now, of course, Tucker has the right to host Nick Fuentes, but why would you host that guy?
I mean, I wrote an article debunking some of his ridiculous conspiracy theories a few years ago.
And the people at Breitbart said, you're giving him too much attention even by debunking him.
Just leave him alone.
So why would you platform him and give him an opportunity to express his views?
And as you point out, to support Stalin and so forth.
And then Heritage didn't have to say anything because apparently they had already stopped advertising with him months before.
But Kevin Roberts came out and said this was a big cancel culture issue and it was about free speech and so forth.
So he now attached the heritage brand, not just to Tucker Carlson, but to Nick Fuentes.
And so Heritage has been losing some of its best scholars.
There are still some good people there trying to make it work, turn the ship around.
But essentially, Heritage has been losing people left and right, mostly right.
This is one of the most conservative, well-respected, renowned think tanks, and they are destroying their brand because they will not dissociate themselves.
And look, there's a difference between the freedom to express a view and a freedom to associate with people, and the idea that this is outside of what we want to associate ourselves with as a conservative movement, as a Republican Party, or as a brand.
And you're seeing this split, and it's going to become much worse.
You know, the BBC had me on several weeks in a row in the spring to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and how he was so important.
He wasn't that important.
The BBC was convinced that the Epstein files were going to split the conservative movement.
They really didn't.
They were sort of a fringe phenomenon, and Democrats seized on it to drive their own messaging in the absence of another message.
But this issue of anti-Semitism really could split the MAGA movement because in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, there's a vacuum, and we don't have a spokesman anymore who can say to young Christian activists that being Christian does not mean also excluding all this other stuff.
It doesn't mean excluding Jews, doesn't mean excluding love of Israel.
In fact, it means embracing those things.
It has historically meant that in the United States.
So all these other people are rushing in to reclaim his legacy as a conservative Christian young leader, and they're trying to shift it into their own particular direction, which happens to be on the extreme right.
And it is going to split the movement unless it is resolved somehow or unless people simply move on to another issue, which I don't think is likely.
So it is a very serious problem, and we're all struggling with how to deal with it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have an aversion to someone interviewing anyone.
I interviewed a terrorist in the UK who was actually later sent to prison.
I tried to ask good questions, interesting questions, tough questions.
I wouldn't gloss things over.
Nick Fuentes is not a terrorist, but he said insanely racist, bigoted things.
And you can have him on.
But the comparison between how Tucker was kid gloves with Nick Fuentes versus how he grilled Ted Cruz, a very conservative senator, I think that's the issue.
And I feel like Tucker's engaging in what Yuri Besman of, the KGB defector to the West, called demoralization.
Just to, you know, not a military attack on America, but making people confused, undermining them, making them feel tired, making them not understand who's friends and foes anymore.
I feel like Tucker, who's very bright.
The thing about him and Candace is they're so articulate.
And Tucker, especially, decades of practice talking to his large audience that when he wants to undermine morale in America, my God, he can do it.
I mean, he is undermining all the pinnings.
Like he's even undermining the narrative of World War II.
Think about that.
The JFK assassination, he's a 9-11 truther now.
I feel like that's an operation of source, an information operation.
That's the only way it makes sense for this guy to change his views 180 degrees.
What do you think?
That could be.
It also could be this is always how he's felt.
In 2020, when he still had a show on Fox News, he would appear every night during the Black Lives Matter riots and tell Americans that nobody cared, nobody was helping, nobody was trying to stop this, which wasn't really true.
I mean, it was true of Democrats in city and state government in the places where these riots were happening, but it wasn't true of the Trump administration.
Trump was doing everything he could to try to stop the riots, to try to punish people who destroyed statues on federal property, to stand in front of the church that had just been burnt by rioters and hold up the Bible, even though he was ridiculed by the press.
Trump was taking a stand.
And I remember watching Tucker Carlson at the time and thinking, what is he doing?
He's telling his audience that nobody cares, but you've got a president running for re-election who does care.
And I'm not trying to be a special pleader for Trump here.
I'm just saying he was doing everything he could.
And he had complete revolt by Mayor Garcetti in LA and Mayor Bowser in D.C. and all these people.
And of course, all the chickens are coming home to roost now.
And now they're all running away from their old tweets.
You know, all these Democrats and, you know, Mamdani, now he's the mayor of New York City and he's got to keep the police commissioner on because otherwise people will really panic.
But, you know, he's put people on his transition team who believe in defunding the police.
So now, you know, there's a legacy.
These statements have come back to haunt the Democrats.
But Tucker was telling people Trump didn't care and Trump did care.
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And so I feel like there could be some element of selfishness involved.
I don't want to try to read his mind.
I do think that the door needs to be open for him to return.
I mean, I said this after the hostage deal.
I said to Tucker and Candace, now is the time to come back.
This is a massive victory for Trump.
It's an end to war.
You guys say you're anti-war.
Come back.
Come back and be part of the conservative movement.
But I haven't seen any movement back.
Yeah.
You know, it's very strange.
It's starting to seep into Canada, not much yet.
But I see sort of copycat young pundits thinking, I'm not particularly interesting.
I want to fast track.
I'm going to mimic some of the anti-Semitic language.
It's sort of startling to see in Canada.
I don't think Canada is a big target for a number of reasons.
Like America is the biggest prize in the world.
And I don't know how much Qatari money is being sloshing around Canada, but I see a little bit of it coming up here.
I'm worried because, well, what is demoralization?
It means people losing enthusiasm.
And the left is going to hold up the Nick Fuentes of the world and show his anti-Semitism and his anti-black and anti-immigrant comments and sort of try and hang that around the neck of the Republicans.
And I'm worried because polls show that young people are buying into it, that young people are conflating a disagreement with Israel with anti-Semitism.
And I'm a little bit worried about that.
It's a very infectious worldview, anti-Semitism, because it's so.
Well, it has cultural antecedents.
I mean, you know, both in Islam and Christianity, there are negative views of Jews in fundamental texts, all right?
It doesn't mean that the Quran is bad necessarily or that the New Testament needs to be not read.
But the fact is that both of those religions came about in reaction or some opposition to Judaism.
And so there are some things said about Jews, you know, in the Gospel of Matthew, for example, that are not particularly flattering.
And so this is part of our cultural background.
And it's something that Christians and Jews have had dialogue about for a long time.
And people are tolerant toward one another.
But there are these resonances in Western literature and in Judeo-Christian dialogues that are unflattering to Jews.
I mean, Shakespeare and the Merchant of Venice.
You know, you don't have to look at religious texts.
You know, so people are willing sometimes to hear things about Jews and believe them.
You know, Tucker Carlson goes on about Israel imposing collective punishment on the Palestinians.
And of course it doesn't.
But why does that resonate?
It resonates because of the Merchant of Venice or because of the Pharisees as characters in the New Testament, all of which have a role in those stories.
You don't have to be opposed to Shakespeare to be critical of the role of Shylock and the Merchant of Venice.
But the fact is, we do have people, I think, responding sometimes, I think, unconsciously to some of the things that are in our culture.
And when they hear statements that are inflammatory, sometimes they can ring true because we've heard them before in other contexts.
Likewise with Islam.
I mean, you know, I don't think that Islam has to be opposed to Israel.
I mean, Jerusalem is mentioned many times in the Quran as the home of the Jewish people.
I mean, the Quran itself affirms the Jewish right to Israel into Jerusalem, but the Jews rejected Muhammad, and so it says a lot of nasty things about Jews.
And so there's a resonance for European anti-Semitism in the Muslim world.
And some of it is being brought back into the West by migration.
So, you know, I think the way to deal with it is simply to be cool and stand up and be visible and proud.
I think that shows people more than anything that, you know, there's a really positive aspect to all this.
I mean, one of the things I remind people, especially if I'm being criticized from, let's say, a religious point of view on the right in the United States, Charlie Kirk was very big about having families and the American birth rate going down.
And that is a legitimate concern on the right, not just the extreme right.
And I say, well, okay, well, what's the one Western country that is having a birth rate above replacement right now, where there are more than 2.1 children being born per woman, which is the definition of more than replacement.
It's Israel.
Israel is the only place where more babies are being born that can replenish the civilization without having to depend on immigration.
So why don't we learn from Israel rather than just writing them off as some kind of terrible place, genocide, whatever, you know, maybe it would behoove us to look at what they're doing.
What is it about Israeli society that works?
And the answer is that it's a very family-oriented society, that it's a society that values military service.
It's a society that values shared sacrifice.
It's a society that cares for one another.
It's the only society that would embrace a hostage deal as the end of a conflict because they want the Israelis, even the dead ones, home so badly.
I mean, there are bonds in that society that are extremely strong.
How do we recreate those in the West?
They used to be strong until very recently in the United States.
You know, our birth rate fell off a cliff after 2008.
What else happened in 2008?
Well, you had the iPhone.
You had Barack Obama.
You had the financial crisis.
You had all these different factors.
But Israel has iPhones.
Israel has up and down economy issues as well.
What's different?
Well, they didn't have a Barack Obama coming and telling them that their whole civilization was awful and needed to be overthrown and fundamentally transformed.
Maybe that hurt the birth rate.
Maybe there were other factors.
But we have to look at what makes Israel work.
So if you're on the right and you share these values, why not learn from Israel instead of disparaging it?
And put it that way, and people start to pay attention.
I just think, you know, just to close this point, I was at a concert, a classical music concert a few nights ago, and I wore my yarmulke as I tend to do.
And a Jewish woman at the intermission took out her Jewish star and necklace, Star of David.
She said, I'm surprised you wear a yarmulke in public.
I mean, I've been afraid to wear my necklace out in public.
And I said, you know what?
The honest, the truth is, as much nastiness as there is online, I have yet to have anything happen to me, any kind of negative reaction from anybody, just being out and proud and whatever.
And, you know, speaking of debate, I mean, Nick Fuentes was invited to debate on Tim Poole's show a couple of years ago when he traveled there with Kanye West.
And as soon as the very mildest questions were asked, they walked off the set.
You know, these people don't want to debate.
Tucker Carlson won't debate Ben Shapiro.
You know, so I think just be out there and challenge people politely but forcefully.
And I think ultimately, you know, the good guys will win this, but we just have to have the strength of our conviction.
Joel, I know you've got to go, so I won't keep you longer, even though I find this a very interesting conversation.
The only thing I'm going to disagree with you on and your final point is that you're speaking as an American from California.
So you are not 5, 10, 20 years further down the road of mass immigration from inherently anti-Semitic countries.
I have the pleasure of visiting wonderful places like Ireland and the United Kingdom, where massive, I was in Birmingham the other day.
It's almost 50% Muslim there.
And they just decided they're not going to allow the Israeli football team to bring any of its fans.
They banned Jewish fans from going to a soccer match.
That's what happens in a city that's 45% Muslim.
And so what you're talking about, an intellectual way forward, reasoning, Jewish-Christian dialogue, I love all that.
I think that moment has passed in the UK.
Ireland is so lopsided.
It's becoming Islamified all the time.
And in Canada, we're not far behind.
So I think that what your prescription hopefully works for America, but I'm afraid it's too late for much of the Anglosphere, including probably Australia.
Anyway, so on that gloomy note, I'll say last word to you, Joel, and then we'll sign off.
Any final thoughts?
Well, it is Thanksgiving.
So I'm just very grateful for you and for the rebel and for the opportunity to talk to you and to talk about the California Post.
And also grateful for President Donald Trump, because I do think he has started to set some boundaries to some of this in terms of migration.
I'm grateful to the support that he gave to Israel and the support he gives to our American military, which, as you say, is somehow opposed by people who were on the right until recently.
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But I'm grateful he's there and I think that he will continue to succeed.
We have a different Thanksgiving date in Canada, but I'm grateful for Donald Trump also.
I think he's not just saving America, but he's saving much of the world.
And I think, although he's got a bombastic style, I think he really does deserve the Nobel Prize for Peace.
I think what he's done around the world and is trying to do in Ukraine, frankly, will save cumulatively millions.
And so I am grateful to him, even though he's being a bit rough on Canada these days.
Joel, I'll let you go.
Congratulations on the California Post.
We'll keep our eyes peeled for when that opens.
Thanks for spending some time with us.
Thank you.
All right.
There he is.
Joel Pollock, for years, the senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com, now the incoming opinion editor at California Post.