Ezra Levant exposes Mark Carney’s September 22nd recognition of Palestine as a cynical political move, ignoring Canada’s 2023 parliamentary conditions—demilitarization, Hamas removal, and democratic reforms—while Hamas’ genocidal charter remains unaddressed. Simultaneously, leaked audio reveals Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangari admitting the $746M gun buyback is a "waste of money," targeting lawful owners while crime rises 30%. His alleged Tamil Tigers ties and landlord conflicts deepen skepticism over Liberal priorities, from appeasing immigrant voters to weaponizing bureaucracy against dissenters. [Automatically generated summary]
I'll give you my thoughts on Mark Carney approving of a Hamas-driven Palestinian state.
It's just so embarrassing for Canada to take that position.
We'll also go to the interior of British Columbia where Drea Humphrey is fighting for the ostriches.
If you know, you know.
And finally, an incredible hidden recording.
Gary Ananda Sangri, that's the public safety minister in Canada, was caught telling a constituent for about 20 minutes about how the liberal firearms policy is pure BS, doesn't work, doesn't make sense.
He confessed the whole thing on tape.
Just amazing.
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Tonight, Mark Carney rewards the terrorist group Hamas, despite promising he wouldn't.
It's September 22nd, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
Shame on you, you sensorious bug.
There is so much news going on today.
In fact, today's show has three huge subjects, including a leaked audio tape of Gary Ananda Sangeri, that's the public safety minister, confessing that his liberal gun grab is just for show and he knows it's baloney.
That's an incredible story we'll have later for you.
Also, Drea Humphrey on location as authorities start to raid the ostrich form in BC.
Both incredible stories in their own way.
But first, I want to talk a little bit more about what happened on the weekend, yesterday, in fact.
I did a video, sort of a homemade video, just on the weekend, but I've been thinking a little bit more about it, about Mark Carney announcing that Canada recognizes Palestine.
Here's the tweet.
He spells recognize wrong.
I mean, that's the British way of spelling it.
You know, there's British spellings, there's Canadian spellings, there's American spellings.
I find it really weird that the prime minister of this country spells like a Brit.
I love Britain, you know that.
But does he have some special PR shop back in the UK that's doing extremely important work for him, like announcing that we're recognizing Palestine?
We spell it with a Z.
And we don't say Z, by the way.
I think Mark Carney was away from Canada so long, I don't even think he really likes us.
I think he's said that before.
He regards himself as European.
He regards himself as globalist.
He has three passports.
We don't know if he's given anything back.
I just think that little detail is weird.
It's the smallest part of this story, but I wanted to mention anyways.
Now, as I said in my video yesterday, Canada, in fact, did not endorse Palestinian independence.
In fact, last year in Parliament, MPs had a vote on the subject, and they did vote to give Palestine recognition with a few big ifs.
Condition precedents, as they're called in law, strict conditions before such a gift would be given.
And those conditions were actually repeated by Mark Carney himself just two months ago.
He did it in writing.
He did it orally.
He said, first of all, Palestine has to demilitarize.
Second of all, they have to completely remove Hamas.
Hamas can't be involved at all in the future.
Number three, there has to be democratic reforms, including a free and fair election held next year.
Actually, it's just a few months from now, 2026.
And finally, he reiterated his call to release hostages.
So back in July, Mark Carney, and you can say he had the approval of parliament to say that, because that was what the motion a year ago said.
He said, if these things are done, condition precedent, he used the word predicate, then he would approve of Palestinian statehood.
Well, they didn't do any of those things, and yet yesterday he announced it on a weekend.
So, of course, there was no question period to hold him accountable.
What's so obvious here, if I were to simplify it, Mark Carney recognizes Palestine as a country, but they don't recognize Israel as a country.
They want to destroy Israel.
And I think this is where we have to ask a few questions of Mark Carney or whoever's writing his policy for him.
Maybe we have to go to London to find out.
What does he mean by recognizing Palestine as a sovereign nation?
What does that mean?
I know some elements of a sovereign nation.
You have borders.
You have a capital.
You have a constitution.
You have a government.
You have a definition of who is a citizen.
What does Mark Carney mean?
Right now, I don't know if you know the map, but Palestine or the Palestinian Authority has two different geographies.
One is called the West Bank, and the other, not connected to it, is called the Gaza Strip.
Now, the West Bank, as you may know, is run by a terrorist named Mahmoud Abbas from the PLO.
That's Yasser Arafat's old party, the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
He has some control, but it's under Israeli security.
So it's sort of like they run the town councils.
It's semi-autonomous, but Israel has control over it militarily.
Gaza, on the other hand, Israel completely moved out of Gaza in 2005.
In fact, they forced the small number of Jews living there to leave.
They actually dug up the Jewish cemeteries and reburied those Jews elsewhere because they knew what would happen.
Hamas took over in 2005, won the first election, and never bothered having a second one.
So for really 20 years, Gaza has been a Hamas terrorist place.
And by the way, the Palestinian authority that Mahmoud Abbas runs is at odds with Hamas.
They hate each other and kill each other.
So who is the government?
Is it Hamas?
Is it the PLO?
Is it someone else?
Who is the leader of Palestine?
Is it who?
I mean, I could guess.
We don't know because Mark Carney didn't say who will represent it to Canada.
What's the constitution?
And I ask, because I think it's important, because, for example, Hamas, their charter, as it's called, explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel and the killing of Jews.
They use the word Jew.
It's not just Israelis.
So is that the constitution of this new country that Mark Carney supports?
What are the borders, by the way?
And that's not a trivial question.
The borders are quite contentious.
Will Jerusalem be part of this new Palestine?
Is that the capital?
Because they sure say it's going to be the capital.
I don't know if you ever heard that chant, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
From the river to the sea, that's a phrase they use in English and in Arabic.
Again, if you look at the map, the river is the Jordan River.
That's the eastern boundary.
And the sea is the Mediterranean Sea.
That's the western boundary of Israel.
So, if you're going to grant statehood to Palestine from the river to the sea, that is the extermination of Israel and the fulfillment of the Hamas Charter to kill every Jew.
Is that what Carney supports?
He hasn't said.
In a way, it's meaningless, what he announced.
It's not within Canada's gift to create a new country.
It's not like we're the British Empire that was slowly devolving colonies.
There was a period of time when the British Empire spanned the world, including what was called mandatory Palestine, including all sorts of parts of India and Africa.
Yeah, it was within the power of the empire to decolonize.
Canada, really, it's like that would be like Canada expressing our opinion on some boundary issue with Azerbaijan.
Okay, thanks very much for your opinion.
That and 35 cents will buy me a payphone call.
It was already done, the granting of a Jewish state and a Palestinian state.
That was actually what the UN voted for, I don't know, some almost 80 years ago.
And immediately the Palestinian side attacked the Jewish side.
It was miraculous that they succeeded.
Time and again, the Arab countries have tried to attack and beat Israel.
It's a miracle every time Israel has survived.
Nonetheless, Palestinians, or those who call themselves Palestinian, even though they're often from other countries, they have been offered a state about seven or eight times now.
It was the number one visitor to the White House during Bill Clinton's term was Yasser Arafat, the head of the PLO.
He visited so many times, and they won the Nobel Prize with Bill Clinton for a peace deal.
They immediately renounced it.
He said that if he were to ever do a peace deal, he would be killed by his own people.
He got everything he wanted.
Israel and America basically said yes to every demand.
And at the last minute, Arafat actually wouldn't sign it because he said, I'd be a dead man if I did.
The Palestinian political force, whatever it is, is about killing Jews and ending Israel.
It's not about building a new country.
That's the Hamas Charter.
That's why Gaza looks like Gaza and not like Dubai.
Think about it.
Gaza was given control of itself in 2005.
If they had gone the progressive enlightened route of Dubai, it would look a little bit more like Dubai right now.
There would be skyscrapers.
There would be beautiful beaches.
There would be a strong economy.
I mean, it's on the Mediterranean Sea.
It would be an amazing place.
But they chose to make it a terrorist camp.
That was a decision they made.
When Hamas and civilians from Gaza attacked Israel on October 7th, 2023, they didn't shout about creating a new country.
That's not what they said.
They said, we are killing Jews.
That's what the attackers said.
They didn't mention a new country.
That's not what they're up to.
Canada is powerless in this whole thing, which is sort of sad.
We don't have any military force that would be relevant at all there.
No one cares what we say.
We don't have any political force.
Even Justin Trudeau, who thought he was so charming and spent tens of millions of dollars lobbying other countries to get on the Security Council of the UN, no one took Canada seriously whatsoever.
Trudeau was just Mr. Fancy Sox.
He was a lightweight and always treated so.
The only people who ever treated him with respect are the Canadian regime media.
So nothing that Mark Carney said yesterday will change what's on the ground, other than Hamas will count this as a political win, which they already did.
They already made a public statement thanking Canada.
Do you feel good about that?
Hamas cannot win militarily, but they can certainly hurt a lot of civilians as they go.
They can get political wins like this, but really for Mark Carney, he knows that Israel's not going to listen to him.
What does it even mean?
He's not even serious enough to have an actual answer to the various questions I just put about borders and prime ministers and presidents.
This is 100% for domestic consumption.
Three countries made this announcement yesterday in tandem, the United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada, all with overwhelming Islamic immigration from places, by the way, that have nothing to do with Palestine.
The mass of immigrants to these three countries are from places like Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.
Look at a map.
They're very far away from Palestine.
They've got nothing to do with it.
But many people in those countries are anti-Semitic.
They just hate Jews.
They hate Christians too and hate the West too.
Not all of them, obviously, not all of them.
Some of the finest people I know are Muslims, progressive Muslims, who critique those countries.
We just, for some weird reason, have taken the worst people in the world.
We're not getting people from Dubai.
Why would they come to Canada?
As I've told you before, many senior people in the United Arab Emirates warn parents not to send their kids to school in the UK because they'll be radicalized.
The United Arab Emirates, even though it's a benign dictatorship, it's fairly liberal and it's fairly friendly to all people of all backgrounds.
There are Jews who walk around openly there.
There's synagogues there.
They do not allow pro-Hamas protests, unlike Canada.
The Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group is banned in the United Arab Emirates, not in the UK, Australia, and Canada.
And so these three weak pro-immigration leaders know exactly what they're doing.
They can count.
In Canada, the Jewish population is just over 300,000 people.
And it's been that way, flat, for about 20 years.
Whereas the Muslim population has quadrupled in those same 20 years to about 2 million.
And I think the real number is closer to 3 million when you add in temporary visitors.
So if you're a politician and you have a wobbly minority government like Mark Carney does, you're going to go hard on this, especially since you want to sop up those votes from the parties on the left.
If you follow UK politics as I do, you'll know that there's a new party that's being born there called Your Party, Jeremy Corbyn and a Muslim female MP.
Now they're having a bit of a rocky start.
It's an expressly pro-Gaza, pro-Muslim party.
Jeremy Corbyn himself is not Muslim, but he's sort of the token white face of this party.
That is a dire threat to the Labour Party, which has traditionally got the Muslim vote.
So you'll see Kirstarma in the UK going harder and harder towards the Islamist side to compete with this breakaway Muslim party.
I say again, many Muslims are not terrorist supporters, but we don't vet.
We don't check.
We let the worst people in.
We're not like the United Arab Emirates.
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That's what's going on here.
What will this mean for the Middle East?
I don't think it'll mean anything other than Hamas thinks that it's got some stupid allies, some useful idiots in the West, and it does.
But I think here in Canada, we're going to see a spike in anti-Semitism, and I believe more violence.
I mean, you've more or less denounced Israel as genocidal, illegal terrorists.
You've morally flipped things over when the prime minister of the country leads by example to demonize the Jewish state and has abandoned any conditions on the Hamas side.
That's a starter pistol.
That's a bad example.
And that is what Canada's going to.
I think we're in for a rough time domestically.
The answer is a principled foreign policy, which can come about only, in my view, with mass remigration.
Stay with us.
More ahead.
Hey, as I mentioned earlier, we have two other great parts today.
So I just...
What a day for news.
I want to show you an interview I did with Tracy Wilson.
She is a pro-firearms advocate who got this incredible audio tape.
Someone had a 20-minute conversation with Canada's public safety minister, Gary Anandasangri.
20 minutes where he recorded Gary talking about how the liberal firearms buyback is just for show.
It doesn't work.
It makes no sense.
It's incredible.
And it's all on tape because the person Gary was talking to, I say Gary, Gary and Anisangri, was taping it and Cabinet Minister Gary didn't know.
It's unbelievable.
We'll play some of that for you a little bit later.
But first, let me go to the Interior of British Columbia where Andrea Humphrey is live on location at the ostrich farm.
And you might be thinking, ostriches, I don't care about ostriches.
It's not actually about ostriches.
Ostriches are the news peg.
This is about government invasion of private property, government seizure and culling of private property, the birds, government junk science being implemented as public health, and foolish COVID-style rules that make no sense, trumping common sense.
There's so much going on here.
And people, I think, have become riveted by this story.
And Drea Humphrey is on the scene.
Here's Drea.
Drea has some signal.
And let's quickly connect with her while we do.
Drea, how are you doing?
Oh, my goodness, boss.
It has been quite a day.
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All of the supporters have been, you know, no one slept a wink.
For the viewers who don't know what's been happening since yesterday, actually, let me backpedal just a little just to show how much Rebel News has been covering this issue.
So on Thursday, we broke the name of the truck company that was being used to rent out some of the vehicles to bring some supplies with the help of a brave whistleblower.
We brought that attention to the public.
And shortly after that, Clearway Car and Truck Rentals said, we don't want anything to do with this.
We didn't know that's where our vehicles were going.
We don't want, we love animals and this is not a hill for us to die on.
So they started demanding back their vehicles, which caused somewhat of a delay.
I don't know how long, but the CFIA did, in fact, have to find a replacement.
Then yesterday, I broke the news of the likely company that's been contracted to go ahead and do the disposal.
And that is New Core Environmental Solutions.
So just so you know, at savetheostriches.com, you never know.
We do have a respectful way for you to demand that they back out of this plan too at savetheostriches.com.
So that was sort of what's happened.
That's kind of part of why there's been the delay.
And then we got word that last night, there was about 15 to 20 RCMP making their way to Vernon.
So everybody was on guard going into place of what they've had planned here, I guess, for the for the last, I mean, it's been nine months.
Some people have been here since January.
Wow.
And so they got into position.
And then Intel said, nope, they're staying at a conference that's taking place at the prestige hotel.
I mean, everyone was reporting what they could hear from the conference of the RCMP.
And so, from that, later on, they learned that they were going to get some Shedi.
There was a lot of men walking around in black with walkie-talkies.
And then, around 3:50 this morning, it was really weird because I just had fallen asleep around 2:30 a.m.
And I woke up at three, like five minutes before I got a text saying they're getting out, they're getting to their cars.
And so, that intel was correct.
And they got together, they had their coffee.
And I would say there's about police that were on the way.
There's two sort of the station type of vehicles where they're going to be remotely, you know, having their conversations.
What's that called?
Sorry, those big trucks where they're stationed inside.
Anyways, where the RCMP are stationed in there.
And the first thing that happened, if you look down here, is the RCMP came here.
They said they're liaison.
I believe they're from E-Division, according to my intel.
And that means officers from all over British Columbia, not just were trying to negotiate because there's a bit of a blockade that's happening.
The farm is saying they had nothing to do with it.
They're going to work on trying to remove it.
I do have a video of all of this.
It's just hard to get it out fast, of course.
So I'm doing my best with that.
So the first blockade, which was trees and some metal things, and I don't even know what it all was, but I did record it, has been removed.
Jeff, who is helping with the farm, said, I'm going to throw you guys an olive branch.
But get this.
As that's happening, we start to hear some screaming happening on the road behind us, this same road that we're on.
And this is one of their neighbors' house right here on the corner.
So the blockages is happening on a road that is shared by both the farm.
Let me just break this down.
There's actually two farm properties.
It's co-owned.
So over here is owned by ostrich farmer Dave Belinski.
And over here is owned by Karen Esperson.
So they share this road with this neighbor over here.
And screaming started happening.
And a man who was dressed in all black with a black mask was going through the neighbor's property with a jerry can.
So at first, we're thinking of someone trying to put the whole place up in flames.
Then the RCMP get welcomed on because the farmers say, we have had troubles with this neighbor.
And if you recall, two, not one, but two ostriches mysteriously died.
They believe they were shot while they've been taking on this battle.
So the RCMP were welcomed onto the property at that point to go to the neighbor's house, investigate what happened.
They brought the dogs on.
Now, of course, they got to see some of the other barriers in place that the protesters have put up while they did that.
But then the plot thickens.
And one of the supporters says it was me.
And he claims it was him.
And the RCMP arrested him.
He was not wearing the same outfit.
So I don't know if he got changed or what have you.
And they arrested him.
He's a man named Tim.
I've met quite a few times coming out here.
He's usually spotted in my videos driving in an ATV back and forth doing the maintenance for the farm, helping out the farm, volunteering so they could, you know, spend more time on their legal fight and all of this battle.
He said it was him.
The RCMP arrested him.
I did some interviews with some of the people here on the farm, and they just don't believe it's him.
Some of them are so weird.
Layers Of Mystery00:06:43
You know what?
It's so complicated, the different web of intrigue that's going on here.
I mean, you've got the birds and the bird supporters.
You've got an angry neighbor who some people think has been taking anti-ostrich matters into his own hands.
We played the clip of the shouting in the guy in the jerry can, and now to have a bird ally say it was him.
It's just a mystery.
It's layers of mystery upon mystery.
I just spoke.
I just want to say, just before I saw you were online, I got a call from Sheila Gunrid, our chief reporter.
She is en route to you.
It is not a quick journey.
It is an 11-hour journey.
And it sounds to me she's about an hour into it.
She's got to go down to Calgary, get the Starlink.
She's got a camper van because I understand you're staying in a tent on the ground.
Is that right?
Well, I must admit there is a lovely supporter who has put me in quite the glamping tent.
It's a teepee tent.
So it's not as bad as it sounds.
And she's got an air mattress for me.
So I can show you.
It's one of those teepee tents.
Okay, well, that's super nice of them.
I know you had that RV that we crowdfunded for you, but I saw you in Calgary on Friday, and I know you had to race back to BC.
You were giving a speech at a conference in Friday, but then when you heard about the ostrich news, you flew down there faster than an ostrich can run.
And so you didn't have time to get the RV again.
And the internet is the main thing, I think.
Although we're able to connect with you a little bit this way.
So you think the police came on to sort of scout it out.
Let me ask you: have you seen any police drones or helicopters in the sky?
Well, it looks like maybe we haven't.
So we're getting reports that there are helicopters.
This is why we want the Starlink because the connection is pretty iffy.
Sorry, keep going.
I think we have you back now.
Go ahead.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you.
Go ahead.
Hello?
Yeah.
That there are helicopters at St. George.
People are claiming they are military helicopters nearby.
So I think I've already laid because I think you respond to something I said quite some time ago.
Isn't that very interesting?
So you're saying there are no police in the farm right now, but there are police at the gates of the farm.
Is that correct?
No, the police have been walking at the neighbor's property with dogs and everything like that.
And now they are back on the outside.
There is some talk about a warrant coming.
And so the farms are on guard.
The farmers are all inside of a pen.
And I don't know if you got my answer about the helicopters, but there are helicopters parked nearby at St. Paul's.
I just want to show you the table here.
The table at the farm has sort of all of the news that has been shedding light on their important fight.
And look how big Rebel News's name is there.
See?
Well, that's great.
It's true.
You have covered this very well.
And you're on the scene.
Are there other journalists there?
Are there other citizen journalists there?
I do see one has come from Surrey.
So he's running around here.
Global News has been here the last couple of days as well.
And that's all pretty much.
Well, I'm so glad you're there.
And I should say, I saw, I did see Global News' piece, and it was quite fair.
Oh, good.
Well, that's a pleasant surprise because, I mean, I don't know a lot about ostriches other than they're a large, flightless bird.
And I think they're related to dinosaurs.
Prehistoric.
I don't think I have a deep affection for the bird.
I don't know if they're cuddly.
They seem aggressive.
But here's why I care about this story.
And I think our viewers care about it for a variety of reasons.
As Sheila said, there's a property rights issue here, the farm, and not just the farm, but the birds themselves.
There's the stupid rules, stupid bureaucracy, stupid authority telling you to do something that makes no sense just because it's a rule.
And the order to kill hundreds of birds because of some obscure, unscientific hunch or I think offends people and it reminds them of how COVID was.
I think the fact that it just doesn't make any sense to kill all these large animals because hundreds of days ago, one of them might have tested sick.
I think another reason is that they won't allow the farm to test them now to prove that they're healthy.
I think there's so many layers to this.
And as if this is a policing priority, like it, like Canada's in the midst of a massive crime wave, but how many police are going to be part of this raid?
Are those some of the reasons this story has resonated?
Because I like animals.
I love dogs.
I haven't really thought about ostriches with some friendliness, but now I feel protective of the ostriches.
I think, like you said, it's a non-partisan issue.
Everybody at its core understands that healthy animals should not be killed for no reason.
And why?
Why are you not retesting them?
Why do the farmers go to jail if they spend their own money to test them?
And I should point out that not a single ostrich behind me has ever been tested.
These are all untested birds.
It's just two of the very young deceased carcasses that were test with an anal swab with the PCR tests, to which a scientist I interviewed had already said was overcycled when he looked through the information.
So they will not retest these animals to prove the farmers, right?
And this is also a matter of not having freedom of science, the freedom to explore the scientific avenues other people want to explore.
We know Moderna is working hard on a mRNA vaccine to address avian flu, whereas the United States wants to partner with the farm to work on antibody therapeutics to address these type of things.
Five Minute Video: Avian Flu00:02:52
RFK Jr. has said he doesn't want to deal with leaky vaccines anymore.
And I wish to tell you, yesterday, Canada's only avian flu case, the 13-year-old girl.
Looks like the cell connection has faded just for a second, but I tell you, when I hear COVID-19, when I hear Moderna...
Oh, my gosh, this is, you know, I get my hackles up, and I think a lot of people do because we know how unscientific that was and how stupid many of their arbitrary rules was.
Hey, let me ask you a question.
I think you can hear me now.
You just faded out for one second there.
There's a five-minute video we have, and I think this was before you got there.
I haven't watched it yet.
You've described it as RCMP officer Paul Britton was on the farm.
You said you thought it was to do a visual check before the pre-cull briefing is in how many vehicles or protesters are present.
Tell me a little bit about that.
And then I think we'll play that clip because, you know, there has been a constant communication between the police and the farm.
Tell me a little bit about that clip and then we'll play the clip.
Yes, that's right.
And it turned, you know, my guests seemed to be right.
The farmers weren't sure if his presence, Paul Britton, who I believe is out of Nakas nearby, so sort of a local RCMP officer who has come many times.
We've captured him before.
And, you know, the farmers claim he looked like he was tearing up.
They don't believe he wants to do any of this and he's grown fond of the people here.
But they thought that his presence might mean, you know, around the corner, it was about to go down.
I actually had some intel from someone who has worked this kind of thing.
And they did say, no, there's going to be a final briefing.
The RCMP, they're going to treat this like a big situation.
And they are going to do a final briefing with everyone at a nearby hotel.
And sure enough, that's exactly what happened.
They went back.
They stationed in Vernon.
They got a boardroom.
They all met at the prestige hotel.
They had their meeting and then they dispersed to two other hotels for the night.
All right.
Do you have anything else you want to add before we go to that clip?
Because we can let you go and reconnect with you.
It's a five-minute clip.
You can stay on the call if you want, or we can let you go and reconnect later.
I'll just say a couple of things.
Number one, you might want to show the video of Karen Esperson, you know, minutes before the RCMP arrived to start this process of the call.
Okay.
And I just want to say thank you for everybody who has been supporting their fight.
I didn't rent the van this time, but I did have to cancel speaking engagement, which means we're on the hook for the hotel that couldn't be canceled, as well as for the flight that was too late to cancel.
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So there were those types of expenses.
I did rent a car to be here and renting it by the day, extending by who knows how long it's going to be.
But you guys have really made all of this boots on the ground coverage possible.
And you can continue to do so at savetheostriches.com.
Gary Anandasangari is the name of our public safety minister, our equivalent of the homeland security minister in the United States.
You may recall the crazy thing is that Gary was affiliated, was associated with an actual terrorist group called the Tamil Tigers, or also known as the Liberation Tigers of the Tamil Elam.
They are a prohibited terrorist group, just like Hamas is.
And yet he was affiliated with them.
Incredibly, he has been appointed in charge of counterterrorism.
That's what the public safety ministers, one of his several jobs are, except for when the issue of the Tamil Tigers comes up, he's supposed to recuse himself because he's too close to them.
It's insane.
You already know we have a fire Gary campaign.
I'm deeply embarrassed in the face of the world because, as you know, we're part of the five eyes group that shares intelligence.
Those are the like the super friends of world countries, United States, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.
Who could possibly trust Canada when our public safety minister literally is affiliated, associated with a terrorist group?
That's not me saying it.
That's the government saying it to explain why he's not allowed to work on their files.
Anyways, this Gary, what a character he is.
Like so many other liberal MPs, he has another job or several other jobs on the side just to keep the cash coming in.
And it won't surprise you to learn that one of those jobs is he's a landlord.
I don't know if he's as prolific a landlord as Gregor Robertson, but you can probably understand why MPs love high housing prices because that was the investment they all made.
They knew that by bringing in mass immigration, the prices for housing would only go up.
It's supply and demand.
So our friend Gary, when he's not hanging out with the Tamil Tigers, is busy being a landlord out there collecting rents and all that.
Could you imagine?
It's almost too ridiculous even to tell the story.
So he's talking to one of his tenants.
And one of his tenants is a firearms owner and is needless to say, frustrated by the fact that Gary Ann Andesangery is with the liberals and they believe in clamping down on legal, lawful gun owners instead of the crime wave.
And by the way, Gary A. is in the greater Toronto area, Scarborough, probably ground zero for the crime wave.
And yet Gary's going after people like his law-abiding tenant who gave him a piece of his mind.
Here's the wrinkle.
When Tamil Tiger Gary was talking to his tenant about guns, his tenant recorded the conversation unbeknownst to Gary.
And that audio tape made its way to Tracy Wilson, who is a firearms rights activist.
And she released it to the media.
Here, let me play just a minute or so of the tape.
It's sort of incredible.
It goes on for 20 minutes, and we won't play the whole thing, but just listen to a minute or two.
These guys, I have to say, Kitchen Relief's politics, man.
These guys are caught, right?
Might spend a couple of days in jail, get a bail hearing.
I know they don't.
But you're taking stuff away from people that aren't called.
Listen, it's voluntary.
That's the only idea.
So what's the third option?
So I deactivate.
I turn them in.
What's the third option?
Third option is you don't do either.
And?
What does that mean?
Then it's up to the local police.
What does that mean to become?
Yeah.
What's that?
A criminal.
Police enforce it, yes.
Well, of course the police are going to enforce it.
Because you're going to mandate.
Well, it's not being the criminal is there.
It's recording written in the criminal code yet.
So you're basically saying, is if I don't deactivate our return at a loss, I'm going to be a criminal.
Your case, what are your losses you're telling me out personally?
It's not the point.
I'll get to say it.
So that was Tracy Wilson, who you've seen on our show before.
She looked at Reeds, talks to her all the time.
She was leaked this tape because this guy was a real firearms rights activist.
And she played it on her YouTube page.
And let me tell you, that is a true document.
In fact, I'm just looking at the Toronto Star, a huge story.
Let me read the headline.
Liberals push for gun buyback program, fueled by pressure from Quebec.
Public safety minister says in leaked audio, a gun-owning tenant recorded a conversation with public safety minister Gary Ananda Sangeri without the minister's knowledge.
Now, I should tell you that half of this story in the Toronto Star is how mean it is that Gary Adanisangri didn't know and he wouldn't have been so honest if he knew it was being recorded.
Like half of it is crying over the fact that poor Gary, his true thoughts were allowed into the world.
It's anti-journalism, isn't it?
Journalism would be what does he have to say when he's speaking candidly?
What does he have to say when he's talking to friends?
What does he have to say when he is not worried about being politically correct?
A gaffe, as they say, is when a politician accidentally tells the truth.
And Gary Ananda Sangeri accidentally told the truth.
And the Toronto Star is furious that someone would record him.
Hey, that's their job.
Well, joining us now is the person who got the tape and made it public, Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms, right?
Tracy, great to see you.
It's nice to see you too, Ezra.
How are you?
I'm great.
What a scoop boot you had.
Now, I'm not going to ask you to give away any secrets, but tell me just a little bit about how you came into possession of this tape because it's a bit of a bombshell.
Yeah, so I was just enjoying a lazy Sunday afternoon yesterday, and a call came into the CCFR answering service from somebody who said their landlord Gary is going to be launching a buyback program for confiscation of legal firearms on Tuesday.
And I thought, your landlord, Gary, does he mean the Minister of Public Safety?
So I called the number that the guy was at, and we had a conversation.
And the whole thing started.
You're right.
This guy is a tenant at one of Gary Hernandez Angry's many rental properties.
And he had some issues with his landlord that he wanted to discuss about the building.
So he was actually recording it to hold him accountable for landlord issues.
Gary, knowing this tenant for a very long time, also knew that he was a gun owner.
So at the end of 32 minutes of discussion about the rental unit, Gary volunteered the information.
He's the one who brought it up.
And he said, Hey, I got to tell you something else.
We're launching the confiscation program on Tuesday.
And from there, they had a 20-minute debate about the merits of the program.
The minister offered to pay his bail should he be arrested for non-compliance.
Oh my God.
Oh, yeah.
The minister also said he confirmed what we knew that we would not be getting fair compensation for our firearms.
And he promised his tenant that whatever he was short on the value of those firearms, he would personally compensate him for, which is outrageous.
You know what's so interesting about that is that he is acknowledging that it's unfair and people are going to get a raw deal.
And he's saying, look, because we're friends, I won't let you be one of the hundreds of thousands of people screwed over.
I'll personally fix what I know is a flawed bill.
If he's saying, I know the short changes people, but you're protected because you're connected to me.
And I'm Big Gary.
I'm the big shot.
I'm a big shot with the Tamil Tigers.
I'm such a big shot.
I'm in cabinet, even though I'm connected to the terrorists.
Holy smoke.
And I, hey, if you're arrested, I'll do some finessing.
Don't you worry.
That's, you know what?
It's not just outrageous the way he conducts himself.
It's crazy that he's a landlord with many units.
That's obviously, and if he's got an hour and he'll give special favors to his people who do him a financial favor, like being a tenant, he'll give a special favor to a friend and a tenant who pays him as opposed to some ordinary stranger.
Like that in itself is a conflict right there.
And apparently he's got an hour to spend talking to one particular tenant.
You and I couldn't get an hour with him.
Oh, no.
Unless we were with the Tamil Tigers or something.
This guy is out of control.
He's inside his office on Wellington Street.
Actually, all last week, I was camped out there making videos all week long as the largest stakeholder on this file in the country.
I'm trying to get a meeting with this guy, and the minister just totally ignores us.
Well, you know, if he had offered me the opportunity for a meeting, I probably would have advised him not to counsel people to break the law because he also told his tenant that not to worry about getting arrested should he not comply because there's not enough resources with law enforcement to actually enforce it.
So don't really worry about it.
There will not be a fraud.
What do you think may have done that?
I mean, this being rolled out anyway.
Look, I'll tell you: if I were to redo this from the beginning, like I'm picking up where it was left off, right?
Have the power, but this is the mandate I was given by Carney to complete this.
Uh, you guys look like fools rolling and like stepping back and not revisit this.
Sure, that's that's my objective, right?
Just to put an end to this and move on with other additional um criminal justice um tools, including on bail, including on you know, increasing penalties for people who have um illegal and and you know, unlicensed firearms.
Um, sort of redo things that the but that we're already going to be doing, um, but this is not new because this has been happening over a decade.
I'll tell you, the going forward, it'll be a different approach, okay?
This is completing something that was started five years ago that you know, but as the minister, you could sit down with Mark and say, Listen, this whole thing we need to address these we've already had all these conversations like I've had for the last four months, it's been like constant, constant discussions on this to see what's next, right?
And the conclusion is let's finish this because we committed to it in the campaign, like but campaign promises have always been broken in the past.
I know, so why must you go through this one?
There is look just saying, Sean, you know, Quebec, for example, is in a very different place in Ontario, right?
The home rule of Canada, it's a federal, it's federal, it's not, I get it, Quebec is in a different place than other parts of Canada, right?
And this is something that very much is a big, big, big deal for many of the Quebec electorate that voted for us, right?
And that's that's one of the major things.
Yes, that's what he told us.
It's all in the audio.
It's almost like, you know, ESP or a mind reader.
Sometimes people the fantasy, what if I could read your mind?
That never happens.
That's a daydream.
That's a science fiction novel.
This guy actually said his secrets.
He gave away his secrets.
He gave away what was in his mind.
It's BS, you won't be arrested.
If you do turn in your gun, we're not going to pay you the right amount.
Hey, you're connected to me.
So if you're arrested, I'll fix it for you.
What a crooked guy.
But it is that, it's like that, you know, some science fiction episode where you actually read someone's mind.
And what's so crazy is half of this Toronto Star article is just saying, hey, that's really not fair.
Although, as you point out, it's Tamil Tiger Gary who brought this thing up.
The tenant was just talking about problems with the apartment, but this guy brought up the subject just maybe to appease him or something.
Yeah, like the tenant didn't ask him anything about it.
Gary volunteered this information.
He initiated the conversation.
He even went on a 10-minute back and forth about the merits of the program.
And he admitted that he is stuck with this as a Trudeau era policy.
So he's been told by Carney to just get it done.
But if he had the opportunity to go back in time, he would do things very differently.
That this program is not going to work and that he would instead focus on criminals with illegal guns.
But this is where they're at.
So they're going to forge ahead.
They've budgeted $746 million on this program.
That's kept.
So any gun owners who don't get in on that pot of money will have their firearms confiscated and get nothing.
So, yeah.
You know, the Toronto Star really emphasizes how mean it is to actually quote a cabinet minister speaking the truth.
It's so weird.
They would never say that about any other cabinet minister.
They know this is very embarrassing, and they're fans of the liberals.
I mean, some of the quotes in the 20-minute tape are: Don't ask me to explain the logic to you on this, okay?
And then the man says, We're not the problem, Gary.
To which Ananda Sangeri says, I realize that.
So he realizes the law-abiding gun owners are not the problem, but he's doing it anyways because as this, as his explanation goes, Quebec demands it.
This is the mandate I was given by Carney to complete this and not revisit this.
Ananda Sangri says, That's my objective.
Just put an end to this and move with other additional criminal justice tools, including on bail, including on penalties for people who have.
I don't know.
It's just, I just don't think municipal police services have the resources to do this.
Well, I think how many billions of dollars in debt are we, right?
We're just going to keep adding to the debt.
How much do you guys think this is going to cost?
Really?
The budget for this was $742 million, $742,000, three-quarters of a billion dollars.
That was the budget.
That's their budget.
So let's double it.
Let's be honest on people.
We won't go that far.
We're tapping it.
That's it.
We're not.
Okay, so let's say, so you think the fire team said was it department?
Yeah.
You start those actions.
No, sorry.
Sorry, no square.
You start with them at whatever the cost added.
And you work across the country, however way you want to rule the program.
I mean, Alberta, Danielle, she's really tied to F yourself.
Yeah, he agrees that this is not going to do anything for public safety.
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But Carney's ordered him to just do it, get it over with, get it done.
They're being pressured by members of the Quebec caucus, and I think we know exactly who that is.
An anti-gun lobbyist was elected as a member of parliament in the last federal election.
So I recognize that she has got a front row seat to this, and she's pushing really hard to continue the attack on illegal gun owners.
So he's like, you know what?
Going forward, it won't be this bad.
Let's just get through this.
Let us confiscate all this stuff.
Some people will get paid some money.
Other people won't.
And then going forward, we won't be so tough on gun owners.
That's what he says.
So, yeah, it was shocking to me to hear this.
So I had to go back to the tenant and say, you know, I need your permission to put this out there because to me, it's very shocking and Canadians deserve to hear it.
And he said, he told the minister flat to his face that he wasn't going to be complying with this gun ban.
And he said, this is my line in the sand and I'm drawing it.
And if I'm willing to go to prison to stand up for my morals, I'm willing to be a victim too.
So wow.
We have a petition at firegary.ca.
There was a whole bunch of reasons to fire him before this, but he needs to be fired.
Now, first of all, how much time does he spend as a landlord?
Like, I'm just curious.
I mean, I'm not saying that no politician should have an outside job, but he's a cabinet minister, so he gets double pay.
He's got an extremely busy file.
You just said he won't meet with you, but he'll spend an hour kibbetzing with a tenant.
And not just that, saying, I'll make sure the law doesn't apply to you.
If you get in trouble, I'll bail you out.
Don't you worry about enforcement.
I'll take care of that.
Like the tape shows corruption in itself.
Now, this was brought up in Parliament just earlier today.
I think we have a clip of the exchange here.
Let's take a look.
Gary Ananda Sangeri is not big on explanations, but boy, he sure has decided he's the victim here.
Let's take a look.
The liberals are setting criminals free.
They're wasting money.
They are targeting sports shooters and recreational shooters who abide by the law.
The Liberals have increased firearm-related crime by 30%.
That we already knew.
Yet, the Minister of Public Safety accidentally revealed the truth and was recorded doing so.
He said that confiscating the firearms of law-abiding firearm owners was a waste of money.
Does the Prime Minister agree with his minister?
Thank you for the question.
Mr. Speaker, on Sunday, I had a conversation with an individual that I've known for many years who recorded it without my knowledge and had it leaked to a gun lobbyist.
In that conversation, Mr. Speaker, the subject of the assault-style firearms buyback compensation program was discussed in trying to address this issue, Mr. Speaker, the individual's frustration.
My comments were misguided.
Having said that, Mr. Speaker, it's important to have the program in place is what Canadians are looking for.
And I do want to note that the Leader of the Opposition has voted against every single gun measure.
The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
By freeing rampant gun criminals and wasting billions of dollars of police and border resources targeting law-abiding, licensed, trained and tested firearms owners, this government has overseen a 130% increase in violent gun crime.
But over the weekend, the Minister of Public Safety accidentally told the truth, and he was recorded doing it.
He said that the gun grab is not worth the money, that it will go over budget, and it would be better just to lock up the criminals, but that they're going ahead with the bad policy because it's good politics.
Does the Prime Minister agree?
The Honourable Minister of Public Safety.
Mr. Speaker, it's a good thing there's a recording of it so that Canadians can have a look for themselves.
Let me be very clear, Mr. Speaker.
Canadians want responsible gun control.
They wanted it in 1989 after a man killed 14 women at École Polytechnique.
They wanted it after six people were murdered at the Quebec City mosque.
And they wanted it after the biggest mass shooting in our history, where a man opened fire and killed 22 people in Nova Scotia.
Mr. Speaker, why are the Conservatives against keeping guns off our streets?
The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
Mr. Speaker, the Minister said that his gun grab won't work, that it will go over budget, and that it would be better to lock up criminals, as Conservatives have been suggesting, but that they're going ahead with the gun grab anyway because the Prime Minister wants to pursue electoral politics.
Electoral politics, Mr. Speaker.
When a mother is hit with a stray bullet, or a police officer is murdered by a firearm, or a bullet flies into a child's bedroom as part of an extortion case, we don't have time for politics.
So why is this minister caught on tape playing politics with guns?
The Honourable Minister of Public Safety.
Mr. Speaker, in order to have a real conversation about crime, we need to have a real conversation about guns.
Canadians want responsible gun control, Mr. Speaker.
They wanted it in 1989 after a man killed 14 women at École Polytechnique.
They wanted it after six people were murdered at the Quebec City mass shooting, and they wanted it after the biggest mass shooting in our history where a man opened fire and killed 22 people in Nova Scotia.
Mr. Speaker, why are the Conservatives against keeping guns off our streets?
Why has this Leader of the Opposition voted against every single gun control measure that he has been in parliament for?
The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
That minister did have a real conversation about guns.
Unfortunately for him, he was caught on tape, caught on tape, admitting that the gun grab is a waste of money.
Caught on tape, admitting it would go over budget.
Caught on tape, admitting it would be better just to lock up the gun criminals who were actually doing the crime.
Why is it that Liberals only tell the truth when they don't think anyone is listening?
The Honourable Minister of Public Safety.
Mr. Speaker, let me reiterate: it's actually a good thing that this conversation was caught on tape.
And in fact, it will counter every single claim that this Leader of the Opposition is making.
Let me be very clear, Mr. Speaker.
Canadians want responsible gun control.
We are in a position as a government.
We committed to it during the last campaign, Mr. Speaker.
Canadians gave us a mandate on April 28th to ensure that we move forward on this program, and we look forward to its implementation.
The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
Mr. Speaker, while this government blocks criminal justice reforms that would lock up gun criminals, they want to go ahead and take nearly a billion dollars away from border security and police officers to go after licensed law-abiding trained and tested hunters and sports shooters.
A project that the OPP refuses to enforce.
Numerous provincial governments have said they will not go ahead with.
They've even had to ask Canada Post to go and collect these firearms.
The minister himself has now admitted that it won't work.
Why won't they drop the politics and save lives?
The Honourable Minister of Justice.
Mr. Speaker, if the member is concerned about advancing legislation that's actually going to keep Canadians safe, he would work across the aisle with us as we seek to table legislation during this legislative sitting to ensure that violent repeat offenders are kept behind bars, to make sure the most serious offenders are actually facing stiffer penalties.
But, Mr. Speaker, it is hard to accept criticism when it comes to keeping our community safe from gun violence from a member who, for more than two decades, has voted against the very specific measures that are designed to take guns off our streets, and he has voted repeatedly on the measures that will weaken our border to prevent the inflow of guns in the first place.
The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
You know, I'll wrap it up there.
What a lengthy exchange.
Sean Frazier, the Justice Minister, obviously coming in to save Gary and Andisangri from himself.
I don't know if you noticed that.
I think he answered four or five questions.
He was obviously prepared.
He had a couple of messages pre-scripted, but he wasn't prepared for, I think, five questions in a row, and it kept going there.
So he had worn out his practice questions.
And Gary's an expert on the Tamil Tigers.
Gary's an expert on fundraising and legal rights for terrorists.
Gary's an expert in being a landlord in the GTA.
But he's not an expert at public safety.
That's sort of the opposite of his expertise.
So once he had read his two scripted lines, I don't know if you noticed that, Tracy.
He literally read the same answer word for word about 1989-14 and then like he gave this.
And I think that's when Sean Fraser said, oh my God, this is terrible.
Like, oh, my comments were, you know, good thing there's a recording of it.
Although his first answer was, my comments were misguided.
So the first thing he said there, Tracy, was, I shouldn't have said what I said.
Then he said, oh, no, you can listen to the tape.
It's not as bad as these guys say.
And then he just sort of gave up and Sean Fraser, the Justice Minister, came in.
This is pretty bad.
And I don't know how much traction it's going to get with ordinary people, but I think firearms owners, every single one of them in this country, is going to listen to this.
And I think there are some rural liberal MPs in places where firearms are regarded as tools and normal.
And the abnormal side is these gun grabs that now it's sort of, you know, it's playing, the stereotype is that liberals know this is just for show.
All the firearm crime in this country is done with illegal guns in the first place, small handguns or even other guns that are very restricted.
Everyone knew the liberals were faking it, and now you have a confession on tape of it.
I think this is going to do tremendous damage to rural liberals, however many of them are left.
And I think they know it.
And I think they were a little caught off guard by five or so questions and more coming from the opposition on it.
And I think Gary Ann Andisangeri is a loser.
Now, obviously, he's valuable to the liberals because he brings the Tamil vote, especially the extremist pro-terrorist side.
Like it would be as his name was found in a tranche of terrorist documents, his name and number.
It would be like if Tulsi Gabbard's name and number was found in some ISIS headquarters or something, you'd say, what?
You got some splaining to do.
This guy, I can't believe he's our public safety minister.
FireGary.ca is our petition.
Tracy, I'm blown away by that exchange.
Yeah, it was very shocking to me, too.
I listened to the entire thing multiple times yesterday.
I had multiple conversations with the tenant.
And I just, you know, it actually, it's gratifying, of course, because we've been saying this all along.
And Gary confirmed everything that we've said for the last five years about this gun grab.
But at the same time, it actually made me sad because, you know, it's, I want a safer Canada.
I want the government to focus their efforts where it should be on reducing crime, violence, and gun smuggling.
So to have them openly admit that although they know this isn't going to work, they're doing it anyways to appease a Quebec MP is just, you know, it's just super frustrating.
And of course, there's a bunch of losers in this.
It's not just Gary.
It's the Canadian taxpayers are losers because they're going to have to pay for it.
And all of society loses because crime and violence is just going to continue to spin out of control because they've rerooted the resources.
So, yeah, just tragic all the way around.
You know, Sean Fraser is one of the most incompetent liberals in cabinet.
He wrecked the immigration file.
He wrecked the housing file.
Now he's in charge of justice.
But when you are so bad that Sean Fraser is the guy they put in to pinch hit for you, you know you're having a bad day if Sean Fraser is your big help.
Holy smokes.
Well, Tracy, I'm very excited.
And I mean this in a, I don't mean this in a condescending way, but I say I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of what you did.
You immediately grasped the importance of what you saw.
You confirmed it.
You were very journalistic.
You were a fact checker.
You called them up multiple conversations and then you put the whole tape out there for the world to see.
And even though the Toronto Star loves terrorist Gary, even though they love banning firearms for hunters and farmers and sportsmen, they had to run this story.
Even though half of it is, oh, poor Gary, he didn't know he was being recorded.
Can he have a do-over?
Something they'd never do with any other politician.
But when you force the Toronto Star to deal with it, you've had a good day.
So Tracy Wilson of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, congratulations.
You did more journalism than anyone else in the parliamentary press gallery today.
So congrats.
Thanks, Ezra.
I appreciate that.
But the real hero of the story is the tenant who stood up to the Minister of Public Safety, his landlord, and then came forward with it.
You know, who knows what he's risked, right?
Hey, can you do me a favor?
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Now, as far as we know, then the identity of the tenant remains confidential.
I don't think you've said it, and neither has Tamil Tiger Gary.
This is obviously a huge embarrassment for Gary Ananda Sangri and the liberals.
And I know how the liberals operate.
They are a vengeance machine.
I know I have some liberal friends who were mercifully, mercilessly targeted by the government, including by the CRA, by the way.
Can you do me a favor?
Can you stay in touch with this tenant just casually and maybe just tell him this?
If Gary Ananda Sangri tries to take revenge on this guy, tries to punish him, tries to evict him, fails to fix up the place, fails to do the duties of a landlord, that must be intimidating.
I mean, there's always a power imbalance between landlord and tenant in any event.
But when it's sort of a thug like Gary Ananda Sanger, I say he's a thug based on his affiliation with terrorist groups.
And he's a thug anyways because he's a lying liberal and he wants to grab guns.
If he gets into a pickle, can you let us know?
Because we'd be happy to crowdfund a lawyer for him.
We'd be happy to journalistically blow the whistle on that.
This guy has done Canada a service by recording this lying liar telling lies.
And if the lying liar tries to take revenge, he's going to need some help.
And I'm here to offer my help.
Can you pass that on to the tenant?
I will.
Thanks, Ezra.
And I told him that as well, that if there's any, you know, repercussions on him in any way, that we'd stand behind him 100%.