Ezra Levant celebrates Rebel News’ 10th anniversary, crowdfunded by $58 average donations, while Karima Saad details Antifa’s Toronto rally intimidation—masked counter-protesters outnumbering Canada First supporters, police inaction despite past violence like the 1933 swastika riot. Legal challenges to designating Antifa as terrorists persist due to the First Amendment, but RICO charges could target criminal factions, with Soros-linked financiers under scrutiny. Rebel News’ activism—from funding ISIS genocide survivors to protesting pandemic restrictions—faces deplatforming and harassment, like "Jew media" slurs from Montreal police, exposing systemic exclusion of independent voices amid legacy media dominance. [Automatically generated summary]
Today an interview with Karima Saad, lawyer and independent street journalist whose specialty is covering protests, even those that turn violent.
It's very timely now that Donald Trump says he wants to ban Antifa as a terrorist organization.
I'll also give you a retrospective.
Tonight is our 10th anniversary party in Calgary.
I'll have more details on how you can participate in our upcoming party.
But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.
It's the video version of this podcast.
Especially with stories like Karima Saad, I want you to see the street violence, not just hear about it.
Go to rebelnewsplus.com and click subscribe.
Tonight, happy birthday to Rebel News.
It's September 18th, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
shame on you you censorious bug you know rebel news turned 10 years old earlier this year but we're only getting around to having a celebration now As soon as I'm done recording this, I'm hopping on a plane, and we're going to have a celebration event in Calgary, and Tamara Leach will be providing the entertainment.
As you know, she's a bit of a rock star.
We're also having an event in Toronto in a few weeks, and I'm sure you've seen our emails about these events.
So hopefully you can come if you want to come.
And this isn't news that you're only hearing about for the first time now.
I just want to tell you a few of my thoughts on being 10, or I guess we're more like 10 and a half now.
It all started with the shuttering of Sun News Network, which was a real TV station regulated by the CRTC, funded by a big regime media company called Quebecor.
It was amazing because Quebecor, as it sounds like, was based in Quebec.
And they are very much the establishment, especially out there.
Like they really dominate the landscape there.
And the owner himself, Pierre Carl Pellado, a billionaire, it was always a miracle in my mind that such a person, who is a separatist also, by the way, he briefly was the leader of the Parti Québécois, if I'm not mistaken.
He supported an English-speaking pro-Western Canada, pro-freedom, pro-conservative news station.
I mean, they hired me, for heaven's sakes.
So that was an amazing job.
And it required me to move up to Toronto.
And I've sort of been stuck out here ever since.
But unfortunately, it was killed by the aforementioned CRTC.
That's the government TV regulator in Canada.
And even though Stephen Harper was prime minister at the time, he refused to intervene to save it.
And I'll always rank that as one of Harper's big mistakes.
It didn't need a subsidy.
It didn't need a handout from the government.
It just needed to be put on the same regulatory footing as its competitors, including CBC News World and CTV News Channel.
And I think that the fact that Stephen Harper allowed his CRTC to kill Sun News just really months before the 2015 election is one of the reasons he lost that election and one of the reasons why Canada is such a leftist place to this day.
Had he simply demanded that his appointees on the CRTC have a level playing field, I think Sun News would be there right now.
And frankly, I think it would be the biggest news channel in Canada.
Just like Fox News, when it debuted, people laughed at it.
Yeah, they're not laughing anymore.
It's by far the largest news channel in the United States.
So that's where we all came from.
You might recall that when we were shut down, I invited a team that worked on my show to come to my house and we did our very first video.
Here's a quick clip from that.
We won't show you the whole thing of me in my living room saying, We're going to try on YouTube.
Remember that?
I'm Ezra Levant.
Welcome to, whoa, I was going to say welcome to the source, but that's gone now.
The TV show that I love so much is gone, as is the whole Sun News Network.
We were always a dissident network, a network of rebels.
I'm not even coming at you from the Sun studios in downtown Toronto.
I'm in a secure, undisclosed location.
Kidding, I'm just at home in my living room.
I wanted to tape a show right away, though, and I haven't had time to get new office space yet.
Later on, I'll tell you a little bit about my plans for what's next, and I hope you'll be a part of those plans.
But let me spend another moment on the Sun News Network.
It was the best job I've ever had.
I'm deeply sorry it's gone.
And judging from the hundreds of emails, actually more than a thousand and thousands of comments on Twitter and Facebook, a lot of you are sorry that we're gone too.
But why?
Why would anyone care?
I mean, there are hundreds of channels on your TV dial and a million different channels on YouTube and other TV-based internet.
Why would anybody care so passionately about an obscure all-news network on Channel a Million that hadn't even been around for four full years?
Newspapers, newspapers, and magazines shut down almost every week.
And other than the immediate concern of those people who were without jobs, nobody cares.
Why did so many thousands of people care about this?
And why did so many rival media rejoice over our demise?
I mean, seriously, page four of today's Toronto Star, a half page rejoicing over our shutting down.
Isn't that weird?
Literally every other news channel in the country made a big hullabaloo about it.
Sun News Network is off the air.
Why do you think it didn't get an audience?
It was a lot of yelling back and forth and a certain mode of expression.
Its downfall may have been its combative approach that failed to resonate with Canadians.
The station attracted its share of controversy, but it couldn't attract the audience share it needed to survive.
Now, I must acknowledge not all of the reports were as sneering as the Toronto Star, but they were quite disproportionate to our tiny size.
Why would a tiny little network have such a big presence in the national conversation?
I mean, just Google the phrase Sun News Network, more than 1.2 million search results.
So what's the big deal?
Well, it's because we were contrarian, not just in our style, but in our values.
For example, we deeply believed in freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
I knew we would one day no longer be in my living room if for no other reason than my wife would kick us out.
So I knew we were starting, really, there was nowhere to go but up.
And here we are 10 and a half years later, and it's been quite an adventure.
And in those early days, I would say for the first year, we really didn't have any haters amongst the regime media or amongst the left.
It's hard to believe.
I think that Paul Wells, who was then with McLean's magazine, consummate insider, like basically deputy of the media party, he actually sort of said, go get them, you guys.
Like there was a feeling when we deployed our new news channel on YouTube because no one else in Canada was doing that.
There were a couple of American outlets trying it.
One was called The Young Turks with Sink Uyghur.
Like it was, you could count on one hand's fingers the number of YouTube-based news channels.
We were amongst the first and certainly the first in Canada.
So people sort of chuckled.
Oh, you go, you get them.
It was like we were at the kids' table and we were kicked out of the grown-ups' table.
And so, oh, yeah, you kids say, you're doing great there, Rebel News.
You're doing great.
And there wasn't hatred because we were not relevant.
We were an amusement.
We were a curiosity.
And I felt that.
I felt slightly inferior.
And so I was always checking statistics.
And I made the mistake one day of publishing our traffic stats.
And I remember that they were bigger when I published them than the National Post.
And I went through and I showed how we were bigger than so many regime media.
And I think I shouldn't have done that.
It was, I suppose, boastfulness on my part.
I was trying to prove that we were real, that we were relevant, that we were legit.
But why did I have to prove that to anyone other than our own viewers?
And I think members of the media party were shocked.
And they said, oh my God, they're not at the kids' table anymore.
Or they are at some other table, but it's suddenly way bigger than the grown-ups' table we ejected them from.
We got big.
And immediately the tone completely changed because they realized that their industry was more and more in trouble because of online-based competitors.
And that was around the same time that newspapers really, the acceleration of their deterioration happened, as well as the deterioration of regular TV, all of it being devoured by the internet, little guys like us.
So the attacks on us began immediately.
And survival has been a theme of ours for 10 years.
Not just surviving like anyone else in business.
You have to pay the bills.
You have to pay the rent.
You have to bring in more than you spend.
That's regular survival for a business, but we had to deal with attacks.
That's not normal.
When was the last time you saw CBC really attack CTV or really attack global?
Never, because they're all peas in a pod.
They're all, as the Brits would say, two cheeks of the same arse, Tweedle D and Tweedledum.
They're very interchangeable.
In fact, you see journalists come and go amongst them all the time.
It's a collective.
It's a clique, as I say, the media party.
But their rage towards rebel news was white hot.
We have been attacked.
I think being attacked and surviving has been a major theme of ours over the last 10 years.
So we're attacked physically.
I'd say over the course of time, half a dozen of our reporters have been physically attacked, including, I hate to say, by police.
We're attacked legally, either by being banned from places that we have to go to court to overcome, like the leaders' debates, or nuisance suits.
We have about four of that coming in, people just trying to slap us, strategic litigation against public participation, and deplatforming.
There was a moment in time, now it's thankfully in the past, but in 2017, when there was a real push to literally kick us off the internet in shocking ways.
And for many years, YouTube completely demonetized us.
They never had the courage to actually shut us down, but they completely turned off the tap for ads and even super chats for many years.
That only ended after Donald Trump's second inauguration.
But the original shunning, the looking down their nose at us, has continued the whole time.
That's that psychological poking that perhaps I reacted to by boasting of our size nine years ago.
But the mean girls shun a lot of people, I've learned.
They look down their nose at the truckers, at farmers, including farmers in the Netherlands.
I learned that this snootiness, this meanness, this classism was in a lot of places, including in the United Kingdom, where British patriots were against a very powerful establishment, and classism is a big factor there.
In the last year and a half, I've seen how Irish patriots have been looked down on by the mean girls.
So it's an interesting thing of different strata of society.
And I would call it classism, look down on a citizen journalist and anyone who doesn't want to get their news from a state broadcaster.
That's something else I've learned over the years.
What's the similarity between Canada and the UK and Ireland?
Each of our three countries have a very powerful, well-funded state broadcaster that despises anything from the grassroots people.
I mean, as Hillary Clinton would call us, the deplorables.
Despite all that, we've grown.
I don't have the latest statistics of our audience.
I honestly stopped counting once we hit 2 billion views.
I mean, does it really matter to you if we have 4 billion views or 6 billion views?
I suppose I should try and tabulate it just so I can report it to you.
But you probably know that we are quite well known.
I feel it when I'm on the streets and people say hi to me, even in foreign countries.
We've grown geographically, not just across Canada, where we have Alexa Lavois in Montreal, offices along the way, including out west, where Drea Humphrey is our BC Bureau chief.
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We have Avi Yamini in Melbourne, Australia, and he's done such a great job there.
I call him a one-man army.
And we're always going to the UK because I call it their dystopian time machine.
We have a new freelance reporter there now, too, Emma Dunwell.
Over the years, we've sort of altered and changed and tried out different ways of doing journalism.
One of the things we've focused on, I think, is on-location news video, as opposed to being in the studio.
Now, you're thinking, Ezra, you're in the studio right now.
You're just giving your opinions right now.
It's true.
Every day I have the Ezra Levant show, and Sheila Gunread has it on a weekly basis.
But if you look at our most popular work, if you look at the work that I think really defines us, it's when we are in the field.
I think the perfect example of that, and to this day, I think it remains our most viewed video of all time on different platforms.
It's when we were at Davos, Switzerland, doing real on-the-ground TV reporting.
We were locked out of the inner sanctum, but we were on the streets of Davos.
We were hunting for Klaus Schwab.
And instead, we came upon Albert Burla, the CEO of Pfizer.
And it just so happened we spotted him when Avi and I were together there with each of our cameramen.
So we had four people, and it was thrilling.
It's not very long.
I'm just going to play it for you because I love watching it.
Take a look.
Mr. Boorla, can I ask you, when did you know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission?
How long did you know that without saying it publicly?
Thank you very much.
I'm sorry.
I answered that question.
I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission, but why did you keep it secret?
You said it was 100% effective, then 90%, then 80%, then 70%.
But we now know that the vaccines do not stop transmission.
Why did you keep that secret?
Have a nice day.
I won't have a nice day until I know the answer.
Why did you keep it a secret that your vaccine did not stop transmission?
Is it time to apologize to the world, sir?
To give refunds back to the countries that poured all their money into your vaccine that doesn't work, your ineffective vaccine?
Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple of years?
Do you have any apologies to the public, sir?
Are you proud of it?
You've made millions on the backs of people's entire livelihoods.
How does that feel to walk the streets as a millionaire on the backs of the regular person at home in Australia, in England, in Canada?
What do you think about on your yacht, sir?
What do you think about on your private jet?
Are you worried about product liability?
Are you worried about myocarditis?
What about the sudden deaths?
What do you have to say about young men dropping dead of heart attacks every day?
Why won't you answer these basic questions?
No apologies, sir.
Do you think you should be charged criminally for some of the criminal behavior you've obviously been a part of?
How much money have you personally made off the vaccine?
How many boosters do you think it'll take for you to be happy enough with your earnings?
Nothing?
Who did you meet with here in secret?
Will you disclose who you met with?
Who did you pay commissions to?
In the past, Pfizer has paid $2.3 billion in fines for deceptive marketing.
Have you engaged in that same conduct again?
Are you under investigation like you were before for your deceptive marketing, sir?
If any other product in the world doesn't work as promised, you get a refund.
Should you not refund to countries that laid out billions for your ineffective vaccine?
Are you used to only sympathetic media so you don't know how to answer any questions?
There's so many things about that.
The fact that we were contrarian on COVID-19 and we were willing to ask challenging questions of an oligarch, a powerful man, something that CBC CTB, Global News, and even some independent media didn't have the courage to do.
The fact that we had taken the entrepreneurial risk to go all the way to Davos on spec on our own dime, crowdfunded by our viewers.
That's a very rebel thing to do.
And the fact that we had our stuff, we had our facts in hand.
And I don't think Albert Burle has ever had that happen to him before or since.
As you know, last year we got Larry Fink from BlackRock.
So our specialty is on-the-scene video.
And there's another thing that is so rebel, and that's activism.
What I mean by that is every once in a while you see something in the news just so awful and you got to do something about it.
It's not enough just to look at it, not enough just to be a rubberneck, you know, driving by a traffic accident.
Sometimes you got to get out of your car and help.
And I think Rebel News does that.
And I think that's one of the reasons people love us, if I may say so.
During the pandemic, I already talked about that, how we came not only morally to the aid of people, but we actually helped them.
Same with the truckers.
We helped so many people that we actually worked with a new charity that we helped boost called the Democracy Fund, which, as you know, has taken 3,000 cases of ordinary people that were hit with ArriveCan app fines and things like that.
More recently, we've taken on the case of the Amish in Ontario.
It's a crazy story that the Amish were fined and that their farms had liens put on them by Doug Ford because they didn't fill out the ArriveCan app.
As you know, the Amish don't use smartphones.
But shouldn't you do something about it?
You know a deep injustice is happening, but shouldn't you do something?
And that's what Rebel News specializes in.
It's what we love to do.
It's one of the reasons we were part of the massive Tommy Robinson rally in the UK on Saturday.
It's sort of unusual when you think about it, but Rebel News, based here in Canada, took the lead in crowdfunding Tommy Robinson's legal defense for many years.
Now, luckily, Elon Musk has started to help with different parts of Tommy's legal defense.
And boy, I'm glad.
I mean, that'll really change the balance of power there.
But until that miracle happened, it was Rebel News.
And we still continue to take a keen interest in him.
And I think that some of his success is because our viewers were willing to help him get out of a pickle from time to time.
So 10 years.
What's our future going to be like?
Well, I can't quite predict.
We can make plans, but as the Yiddish saying goes, men trach dund Gottlacht, which means men can plan, but God laughs.
I don't know exactly what the future will hold.
No one could have seen the pandemic coming, and that utterly changed our company in many ways.
I think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk is going to have a larger impact around the world than we think.
I think it's going to shine a light on violence and political violence, and hopefully it'll also stop the Canadian government in time from funding political violence, which they do.
Our next guest today will talk about that.
But if I had to say what the great battle ahead is, it's going to be censorship.
It always is.
And I think that Mark Carney presents a terrifying new force for censorship.
He isn't as hated yet as Justin Trudeau.
The media aren't even pretending to be critical of him.
And I think that he wants to prove himself to be anti-American and un-American so badly that he will, I think, plunge ahead in censorship, even though he'll be censoring U.S. social media platforms.
We'll see how that goes.
It's a worry of mine.
I cannot predict how that's going to go.
But in Canada, censorship and thought crimes are always in fashion.
But in the meantime, we'll keep telling you the news, the other side of the story.
It's what we started doing when we were born 10 years ago.
It's what we've done despite the constant onslaught by our critics, both peaceful and violent.
And it's the reason that we've managed to survive without a great benefactor like Elon Musk, who we admire very much.
But there's something to it being completely crowdfunded.
Something that was very novel when we started 10 years ago, but something that's more commonplace now.
In fact, I think Rebel News helped normalize it.
The fact that there's no single donor out there who gives us even 1% of our income means that we are beholden not to any special interest or single person, but to our ordinary viewers, the average crowdfunding donation of which is $58.
I care about all of our viewers, whether they donate nothing, $58 or $5,800, but I know that we have been able to follow our conscience and follow our hearts because we're not owned by some external force.
And hopefully that shows, and hopefully that's one of the reasons why you trust us and have supported us all these years.
If you're in Calgary, I'll see you tonight at the Carriage House.
If you're in Toronto, you can find more about our birthday bash online.
And 10 years, you know, I've lost a lot of hair and what hair I have remaining is gray, but it's been a wonderful adventure.
And thank you for being an important part of it.
Stay with us.
karima sad about violent politics next well one of donald trump's early executive orders was to declare that the drug cartels that are responsible for bringing so much mayhem to americans cities
these drug cartels would be classified under the Department of Homeland Security as terrorist groups, which would be a legal change for them.
They wouldn't be treated like criminals so much.
There's a special legal category for terrorists similar to that of pirates.
Basically, they're outside the law and you could shoot them on site, deal with them like a terrorist.
In recent weeks, Donald Trump has indeed started doing that.
It's very interesting and it seems to be all completely legal despite friends of the cartels objecting.
Yesterday, Donald Trump mused that he will quite shortly declare that Antifa is a terrorist group, which I think is literally its definition.
There may be some problems with doing this in that Antifa is disaggregated.
Antifa is in some ways like ISIS.
I mean, there's lots of rogue cells and rogue actors.
It'll be interesting to see how that is outlined in any executive order or order by the Department of Homeland Security.
But I'll tell you this, you can see already Antifa thugs on the ground who know exactly who they are, who are now a little bit worried that they won't be dealing with Democrat-run local cities and their defunded police, but rather the strong arm of Donald Trump.
But much more important than these street thugs, the financiers of Antifa must be panicking because the only thing worse than being a terrorist is being a financier of terrorism.
And we know historically that George Soros and other leftist billionaires have indeed funded Antifa as the street teams, the violent street gangs enforcing the narratives and the viewpoints of the left.
We have Antifa in Canada.
I think if I had to say where it's strongest, I would probably say Montreal.
And again, with the cooperation and toleration of the police.
It's somewhat active in Toronto and Ottawa, our nation's capital.
You don't see much of it in the West.
There's some of it in Vancouver.
But there is some in Toronto.
And on the weekend, they made their fangs seen.
Joining us now to talk about what happened on Saturday in Toronto is Karima Saad, a lawyer and independent journalist, a member of the Independent Press Gallery, who joins us now via Zoom.
Karima, great to see you.
How are you?
Good, thanks.
Thanks for having me.
Good.
It's a pleasure to have you.
You're always out there on the street.
You and your cameraman seem to have a nose for news.
You just know where things are going to be.
And that place on Saturday was a place in Toronto called Christy Pitts.
Why don't you tell our viewers a little bit about the history of Christy Pitts and what happened there on Saturday?
So it's a public park that itself is a historically significant backdrop because in 1933, a riot broke out that was essentially, it happened during a baseball game, and there were Jewish and Italian immigrants fighting with members of swastika clubs.
And it was an hours-long brawl.
Police were heavily criticized for not doing much to prevent it, despite prior warning.
And since then, Christy Pitts has sort of carried that legacy, which has been, let's say, the imagery from it has been drawn on by local Antifa groups with the Christy Pitts Hardball League.
It's three baseball bats pointing downwards in the same style as an Antifa arrow.
And that's sort of the backdrop to what happened on Saturday, which was a rally held by Canada First, an anti-mass immigration rally.
And in response to that, different groups planned counter-protests, including Antifa counter-protesters.
Now, did it get violent?
Were there baseball bats that were wielded?
I did not see any baseball bats.
You know, in the weeks leading up to the event, there were stickers indicating BYOB.
It seems there were no Bs to bring.
So I thankfully no violence of that nature.
But there was, nonetheless, verbal and physical assaults.
The Canada First Group was outnumbered by a large margin, and they were encircled by counter-protesters.
When they then moved to leave the park, some counter-protesters followed them down the street, down side streets, pushing, shoving, blocking, things of that nature.
You know, it looks like police were fairly numerous.
They had bike helmets, not riot helmets so much.
It looks like they didn't let things get too out of hand.
I'm going to say, if someone started swinging a baseball bat at people, I think the police would have been there very quickly because that would be a very assault with a weapon-aggravated assault.
You start hitting people with baseball bats, you could kill them or grievously injure them.
It doesn't quite look like it got that bad.
Am I correct?
I would agree with that.
And in fact, I would say that there was a relatively short period of time where police didn't have a good handle on the situation, maybe 10 minutes or so going down Bloor Street.
For the rest, police maintained a visible presence and more proactive than I've seen at other rallies in the past.
The one point of criticism I might raise is unlike other events where counter-protesters and protesters are separated by barricades or are prevented from intermingling, that didn't happen here.
Now, you go to, as I mentioned at the top, you go to so many street events.
Some are one-sided protests.
A few of them are, as you mentioned, protesters generally separated by some physical barrier and by police.
Is Antifa a real threat?
Do you, I mean, you go to so many of these protests or rallies.
Do you recognize the same people?
Do you recognize an Antifa boss or organizer?
I know you criticize the so-called Canadian Anti-Hate Network, which is actually funded by the Trudeau government and now the Kearney government.
Is Antifa a real force in the greater Toronto area, for example?
There is most definitely a movement that exists.
I don't know that there is a leader as such.
I think that they try to organize in a more flat structure, although there are people who have positions of maybe informally, but who are the organizers and so forth.
And to your point, it's often, you know, there's repetition in the characters who appear at different events, different parts of the city for different reasons.
And that's part of what drew me into wanting to document Ontario's protest subculture, trying to understand how and why that is.
So there is a real presence, you know, and my general experience, I would say, at most protests is that most people are there in good faith.
And it's the ones who have ulterior purposes, including the opportunity to hijack social justice causes or righteous anger for their own sort of personal ends, whether that's just catharsis, the sake of harassment for its own sake, or whatever the case may be.
But it is here.
It is real.
And as far as the Canadian Anti-Hate Network is concerned, there is an Ontario court ruling that confirms that Khan has assisted the Antifa movement, which has been violent.
And there are individual players who can be connected to that organization.
Although I do note that Con keeps its activists at arm's length.
You know, one of the things that I remember the first time I really encountered an anti-fund, it was over a decade ago.
It was actually during the Occupy Wall Street movement, which there was an echo encampment in Toronto, even though no Canadian banks fell.
It was a movement basically that said, look, all these big banks are failing.
They're getting bailed out.
What about the rest of us?
And there is a compelling logic there.
But none of them, but that wasn't a Canadian story.
Canada actually weathered that crisis.
But they had an encampment.
I went down there and I sort of poked around and they had an encampment, but actually no one was staying there.
Like it was more sort of theater.
And I got to know, not in a friendly way, but I started to recognize some of the leaders.
I have to say, here, let me just throw to a clip.
And this is from when I was at the Sun News Network of what it was like, street encampment protests.
I'm guessing this was more than 15 years ago.
Here, take a look.
About 15 years ago, take a look.
Did you vote in the last election?
I did.
The federal election?
How about the provincial election?
I missed that.
I was working.
Okay.
Whereabouts were you working?
Landscape.
Yeah.
All right.
They didn't give you the time off to vote or it just wasn't at the table.
Unfortunately, there was nobody I wanted to vote for in the provincial election.
I seriously mean that.
But this happened to me.
I mean, GTA showing if you're not going to vote.
I mean, that's what they say.
But you can't kill people.
No, you can't kill people.
You're not walking out of your guys' trip.
You can't kill people in the voting.
No, but I'm trying to kill Chad.
How do you do it?
No, that's what I'm doing.
Why didn't I vote?
Because they weren't talking about renters' issues.
50% of GTA is renters.
And rent is going up, and nobody can afford to live.
Maybe you did get a little action.
Well, I don't.
Did you sleep in your bed last night?
Did you sleep in a tent last night?
No, I didn't.
Did you sleep here tonight?
I did.
I haven't left this park except for the protests since I got here on Sunday.
Where did you live before you came here?
Where do you live?
North.
Just on Mount Avenue.
Where did you live?
So, yeah.
Yeah, go sleep in a tent.
Come sleep out here with us tonight.
That sounds sort of gross.
Yeah, there you go.
It is.
But that's the point.
That's the point.
One of the big differences, I think, is the masks.
I think COVID-19 normalized wearing masks.
And I think when protesters or protesters who want to get into some fisticuffs wear masks, it gives them some courage because they feel anonymous and they can get away with things sometimes.
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It adds a bit of a menace to it.
Do you have any thoughts about mask wearing at protests, especially where violence is in the air?
Well, at the outset, I would note that activists are encouraged to wear masks.
And so that is part of their strategic or tactical planning, how they advertise themselves to their followers.
And, you know, the rationale varies from COVID-19 justifications, even today in 2025, to it will help conceal your identity from being doxxed or from law enforcement.
So there is an understanding that one might conceal their identity from police.
And it's a huge factor, I think, in a lot of the protests I attend for the reasons you've identified.
It emboldens people and it makes it difficult for whether it's pedestrians passing by or demonstrators who are there in opposition to identify if something does happen to them, you know, who did it or like what exactly took place.
So that is An element of what complicates things on the ground.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I mean, the whole black block look head to toe in black, no distinguishing characteristics.
It's expressly a tactic to avoid accountability.
Let me close by asking you what you make of Donald Trump's post.
Now, as far as I have seen, there is no executive order yet.
I can understand how calling the cartels terrorist groups could be done.
They're a cohesive team, they have a cohesive purpose, they're in a geographical area, and they do a particular thing, smuggle drugs.
I can understand, I mean, whether or not you would agree with that, I can see how that could be affected.
How likely is it that an order can be drafted to go after quote Antifa?
Would they just change their name?
I don't, you know, would they just change their affiliation?
How likely is it that Trump will be able to actually achieve what he sets out to do?
Well, firstly, I believe he tried to make a similar statement or proclamation back in 2020, and that didn't really land anywhere.
And I think that's in large part due to the First Amendment.
So the U.S. has a different legal landscape entirely.
And the First Amendment and its broad protections really preclude domestic organizations from being declared illegal per se.
In my view, there are enough tools in the toolkit that can be used and deployed to address the criminal element because it is such a nebulous movement, the Antifa movement.
There is a risk that people who are innocent or simply adhering to beliefs or ideology without any corresponding criminality or violence be caught up in that, right?
So I understand the apprehension there.
I think it's going to be a very difficult undertaking, maybe to the extent that there is foreign participation, but that's not really my understanding of how the movement works.
So I'm not overly holding my breath, but if this does mean perhaps more conspiracy or RICO charges, even at the federal level, that is something that is within the realm of possibility as well.
You know, I think you're right.
First of all, the American First Amendment really does protect a lot of speech, including speech that you and I might find offensive.
But it's the activities, it's the criminal activities that I think are concerning people.
And it's true that many U.S. cities, particularly, I mean, I spent a little bit of time in Portland.
The city has basically conceded the streets to Antifa.
And I don't know if you remember that CHAS, the autonomous zone that Antifa had carved out.
I think that was in Seattle.
Like, there are laws on the books to deal with that now.
They just lack the will from either the police force, the city politicians, or the attorney, the district attorney there.
I think there may be more regular and routine solutions that don't involve banning entire groups.
I think you're probably right on that.
It'll be interesting to see how this goes.
I think it may be an attempt to go after the moneyed financiers.
It wouldn't surprise me if this was really about people like George Soros being put on the back foot.
We'll have to keep watching.
And Kareem, I want to thank you.
I'm an avid follower of your Twitter account.
What's your Twitter account just to tell people in case they're not already following it?
You can find me at Karima Rules.
And if that's hard to spell, it's at the bottom of the screen.
But Google SAD Lawyer Toronto and you will find me.
Great.
Well, listen, thanks so much for being with us.
And I have to say, you're quite courageous on the streets because some of these protesters don't like you shining a spotlight on them.
And I know that you and your cameraman have been physically accosted.
You've been verbally threatened.
And I think you've been actually assaulted a few times too.
And police don't really seem to be motivated to protect you.
So stay safe out there.
And thanks for coming on the show.
Thanks for having me.
All right, there you have it, Karima Sad.
And I really encourage you to follow her at Karima.
It's spelled C-A-R-Y-M-A.
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Hey, welcome back.
Your letters to me.
On immigration numbers being revealed in the order paper question.
Northern Light says the damage is permanent.
Too bad the simple-minded citizens didn't catch on in time.
Well, part of that is the job of the opposition.
And the Conservative Party has been pro-immigration forever.
Maxime Bernier rang the alarm about immigration, but he was never in a place for that alarm to be heard.
One of my deep regrets about Maxime Bernier is he never fought to get into the leaders' debates.
I think this last leader's debate would not have been his moment.
But the 2021 leaders' debate, in the height of the pandemic, if he had sued to get in there, and we did, I don't know why he didn't.
Perhaps he could have not only spoken against the lockdown, but talked about immigration.
Alas, we'll never know how that alternative history would have gone.
Fahim Shah says conservatives should force government to disclose the number of individuals in Canada with expired visas.
That's a fascinating point.
It's something I didn't get into when I went through that order paper question.
The government doesn't even track it.
They don't even track people who are supposed to leave, but don't.
Jason Dean says exactly the same all over Europe and England.
So I wonder who is telling all the governments to allow this.
That's a good point.
One answer, and it's not a conspiracy theory, it's a real answer, is George Soros.
His open society foundations massively fund mass immigration to the West.
It's a top issue and it's one we'll continue to cover.
That's our show for today.
Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Hack Warriors, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
I don't have tens of millions of dollars to start a new TV station.
I don't have political connections at the CRTC.
I don't have a billion dollars a year in corporate welfare bailouts.
So what can I do?
It was captured on video by Rebel News.
Founded by Ezra Levant.
So you're the rebel media of Rebel News was arrested yesterday.
They can only ask me to leave if I've broken the law.
Mr. Tedros, where are you?
Great need to intervene.
They'll tell you that the fight is not over.
Their fight is not done yet.
They're burning churches and vandalizing them and you're not calling it a hate crime.
Do you think that you should be subject to any sort of accountability?
I can't even control the media.
That's what you're doing.
I got in this convoy because my boss, Ezra Levant, he told me, Kian, the mainstream media is not going to give these guys a fair shake at what they're going to say.
They're going to try and discredit them because they're scared of you.
I will break your camera right to you.
Whoa!
Hey, hey, what's going on?
Hey, I'm media in the media.
We understand now.
Shame on these people!
When Montreal police accost our reporters, you know what they call us?
Jew media.
What?
Who are you, sir?
I'm with Rebel News.
Sheila Gunread here on special assignment this week in Iraqi Kurdistan.
I'm here documenting your efforts to save the Christian survivors of an ISIS genocide here in the place that has been the cradle of Christianity for 2,000 years.
Have you meaning for Rebel News in Bury Southern Israel at the site of the horrific massacre at the Niver Festival?
The Rebel Media's part was to give this a lift.
Let everyone see it, let everyone hear it, let everyone hear the voice of the community, how angry local people are, and get justice for Chelsea.
Fucking USA, eh?
USA, eh?
USA, eh?
Amazing civil liberties initiative launched by the Rebel to give these guys some representation and hopefully reduce the tense situation that we've got down here.
They want us to move this sign around.
We can continue displaying it apparently as long as we move it back and forth.
So that is exactly what we are going to do.
I'm here with Sarah Miller, one of Canada's best human rights lawyers, and we are here to hand deliver her meticulously drafted human rights complaint documenting the human rights abuses that unfolded in Canada over the last two years under the auspices of the pandemic.
Good news, everybody.
Rebel News has decided to help us out with lawyer fees, which we really appreciate.
Thank you guys.
So thank you, everybody, for donating.
really appreciate it.
We started off this convoy calling it taking back our freedoms and but our freedoms are nobody's to take away.
So we're going to restore everybody's freedoms.
And we sure appreciate all the support and the love that we've been getting.
I don't even know if I have any more tears to cry.
And I want to thank Ezra, Levan, and Rebel News.
Ezra is there, Ezra Khan.
You see, this is a man that I have differences with.
Oh, thank God for Rebel News.
I won't call it a media organization.
Your group, nearly every media outlet has fallen in love, except for one.
But I promise you this: I'll give it everything I've got.
Who the hell is the censor media?
You ask them a question and they can't answer it.
Billions for your ineffective vaccine.
Rebel News.
You're in a city facility?
Yeah, so are you.
Why are you lying to Kim Egens?
Well, as we know, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
People from the press, they are shutting them in their legs.
Why is your government supporting Islam from that?
Pushing your luck, I think.
I guess so.
I've been a public figure in Canada, been a public figure in the UK.
I know you got to answer tough questions.
And you guys, you know, you ask tough questions, and that's fair.
Hello, Mr. Singh.
Treya Humphrey.
Your party takes great pride in standing against hate such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and all.
Sorry, I didn't get your outlet.
Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.
Okay.
Your party.
You know I'm going to go with this, all right?
Let me tell you, going in that building is like going in the belly of the beast.
There were people who did not like us there, and they let us know it.
Rebel News got as many questions as I think CBC Radio Canada, Press Canadian, and CTV or Global combined last night.
There were almost 50% of the questions.
Sheila Gunrid for Rebel News.
Yay!
We've seen the NDP tonight refuse to take questions from independent journalists.
The Liberals have gone one step further.
The Kearney campaign has called the police on independent journalists.
The powers that be, who organized the debate, the legacy media types, with CBC radically involved, couldn't figure out how to exclude rebel media.
Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today and explain what your party will do moving forward to keep Christians safe from hate in Canada?
Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization that promotes misinformation and disinformation like Rebel News.
So no, I'm not going to respond to your question.
Rebel News in particular traffics in misinformation, facts, lack of facts, and as you heard in that question, which was woven with some truth and some things that weren't true.
Yes, there have been burnings of Christian Catholic churches.
Yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places around the country.
I don't believe them either.
No, David.
Actually, we don't believe anything we read on the news except for maybe Rebel.
Thank you, man.
Real news.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for everything you do.
You're right.
Modern thing.
You've done excellent work on some issues, but some issues like pride and nudity are a different story.
Sheila Gunn-Reed for Rebel News and I'm here just outside of Edmonton, Alberta.
And the reason I'm here is this is the warehouse that will house Pierre Polyev's first Alberta Canada First rally.
Good morning, Saskatchewan.
It is so good to see you all here today.
My name is Lee Smurle, and I am Saskatchewan's girl.
When you take back your country, you will be able to say you were there.
You were there at a turning point.
You were there when the people decided in their millions to no longer be afraid to love their country.
Honoring Charlie Kirk00:02:42
Good luck and keep fighting for freedom.
Many, if not all, of us here today shared the very values that the great Charlie James Kirk shared and defended.
Hundreds have gathered here for a candlelight vigil in honour of Charlie Kirk.
You're a big Charlie Kirk fan, why?
Why?
Because he's good and he's a Christian and he believes in Jesus.
No, fear!
Fascists are not welcome here!
No, hey, no, I don't know if you know this, but a father just had his head blasted in front of the world.
Maybe not.
You, fascist!
What's her message to people?
Die, fascist!
Do you think some people might censor because of the fear of maybe having the same ending?
I think people are not going to be afraid.
I think they're going to save for what they believe, and we're going to, we have to stay strong and stand up for my life and our lives, and what was done was absolutely cruel and devastating, and it means a lot to show our support for Charlie Kirk and his family.
We're all Canada's patriots.
We're all courageous.
We're all Charlie Kirk.
We have just made millions of Charlie Kirks across the world.
And rest in peace, Charlie.
We will carry on your legacy, I swear on it.
Christ says the biggest form of love is to lay down your life for one another.
Charlie Kirk did that for the conservative movement and to reunite young people to Christianity.
And for that, I think that Charlie Kirk is a martyr for the Conservative movement.
We know what's right and wrong, and we all be more like Charlie Kirk.