Ezra Levant exposes Canada’s foreign student crisis: 1.3M study permits issued in 2024–25, surpassing domestic enrollment, flooding jobs for locals like Nathan Poole (30-month prison sentence for protest chants) amid perceived leniency for others. Fraud plagues LMIA and "diploma mills," while UK’s 1M-strong free speech rally—backed by Elon Musk—highlights global immigration tensions, pushing governments to confront two-tier justice or risk losing public trust. [Automatically generated summary]
A new revelation in Parliament of just how many foreign students there are in Canada.
Here's a hint for you.
It's seven figures.
I'll take you through the details.
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Tonight, I was wrong.
364,000 temporary foreign workers are not the main problem.
That's a tiny fraction of the main problem.
It's September 16th, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Hey, remember a few weeks ago when I debated the friendly representative from the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, we were talking about the temporary foreign workers program.
Now, I disagreed with her on most things, but she was right on one big thing.
The temporary foreign workers program is not the biggest problem in the country.
Now, 364,000 foreign workers coming to work in restaurants and gas stations is absolutely displacing thousands of local Canadians, especially teenagers who need that first job in food service or retail.
Although I do acknowledge that true temporary workers who come, for example, for a season to help farmers pick crops in a tight period of time, I think that's probably needed and probably wouldn't displace local workers.
You need a surge of workers just to pick a crop.
But I didn't like the implication from the Federation of Independent Business that young people don't want to work in jobs like fast food restaurants or retail.
No, I think that's actually the classic first job.
It certainly was for teenagers in the past.
And I think it should be now too.
By the way, I think the labor market impact assessment, that's when companies have to prove to the government that they can't find a Canadian to do the job.
I think those are abused.
I think there is a lot of fraud there.
Don't tell me that you can't find someone to work at a fast food restaurant for $72,000 a year, which some of these fast food restaurants offer to temporary foreign workers.
You can go online and see there are jobs up to $200,000 a year.
Don't tell me you can't find Canadians who will take it.
But as the CFIB argued to me, that's not the big number.
Odds are, if you're going to a Tim Hortons and you're served by a foreign national, odds are it's not a temporary foreign worker.
I didn't believe that at first, but it's true.
Because there are more than 1.4 million people here under the so-called international mobility program, which does not need a labor market impact analysis and is not part of the same program.
But the real doozy, can you imagine 1.4 million, like quadruple the temporary foreign program?
But the real doozy was revealed in parliament today in a written order paper question.
That's like oral question period, but in writing.
Typically, opposition MPs, or really their staff, write a fairly detailed question or series of questions about a departmental issue.
So, it wouldn't be like the raw partisan battles you normally see in oral question period where there's name-calling and scandals and things like that.
I mean, let me give you a sample of the written question I'm referring to today.
It's submitted in writing, and the department answers in writing, and they have a certain period of time within which to do it.
And it's put in the handsert, that's the official transcript of Parliament, as if it were spoken out loud.
But it's a great way to get detailed info.
I mean, let me look at, let me show you this example today by an MP named Jamil Javani, the Conservative MP.
He's actually a pretty good MP, I think.
So, I'll just read it: With regard to immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship Canada, IRCC, that's the name of the department, in the 2024-2025 fiscal year, A, how much was spent administering the student visa program in total and broken down by type of expense?
B, how many employees were assigned to the program?
One, in total, and two for processing applications, and three for ensuring the compliance of those already granted a visa.
C, how many student visas were active, and D, how many student visas were revoked, broken down by reason of revocation?
That's a pretty technical set of questions, right?
I mean, that's not the kind of thing that a cabinet minister would likely have at the tip of their tongue if you asked it to them out of the blue.
So, so it's written down, and so is the reply.
And you can imagine that's a pretty meaty set of questions.
I'm not going to answer all of those, I'm just going to focus on one part of it.
But it like these oral questions, I've written questions.
Would you agree with me?
They're pretty useful.
And they're answered by the department staff.
Now, they're put through a political vet, like they're not going to do anything to embarrass the minister probably.
Now, I'm going to skip most of those details and focus on the huge, shocking figure: just how many foreign students are in Canada.
So, here's the answer from today's Hansard, from the written answer to the written question.
I'll just read the key part of it since there's a lot of other detail.
So, this was submitted by Peter Frag Scatos, who is the parliamentary secretary of the Ministry of Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship.
He's a liberal, of course.
And I quote: The total number of unique individuals who held a valid study permit on any date over the course of the time period at any point in time between April 1st, 2024, and March 31st, 2025, there were approximately 1,317,680 persons who held a study permit, including extensions.
So, you got more than a third of a million temporary foreign workers, and you got 1.4 million other foreign workers, those international mobility workers.
But then you've got 1.3 million students.
I think these are all different.
But here's the thing: those students are also allowed to work.
By the way, I checked, there's only about 1.7 million Canadian citizens and permanent residents in University and College to begin with.
So, 1.3, almost 1.4 million foreigners in our colleges compared to 1.7 million Canadians.
It's almost a majority.
So, almost half of our universities and colleges are foreign nationals.
That is nuts.
Is that what you pay your taxes for?
So, universities can educate the world rather than Canadians.
Did you have a Canadian kid who couldn't get into college, maybe, couldn't match the tuition, couldn't get the marks, pushed aside by a foreign national instead?
Now, of course, a lot of those, let's be obvious and honest, they're going to fake schools called diploma mills, where really you're just buying a diploma.
I think that's what it's pretty obvious.
They're not actually selling you tuition, these schools, and it's not even the degree you're after.
They're selling immigration.
Just like there's some fake companies that are hiring foreign nationals, they're not actually really hiring them, they're not actually working there.
Foreigners pay those companies to be hired at a fake company, pay 10 grand, 15 grand, 20 grand, just to say they have a job.
But really, the job didn't pay them.
They paid the job as a crooked way to get into the country.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Like, we think, okay, get a job.
You work for the company.
They pay you for your work.
But that's because we're here already.
How many people from foreign countries pay?
I don't know if they pay Tim Hortons.
I don't know if they're in on it.
I'll pay you $20,000 to hire me.
And you don't actually have to hire me.
I just want to say I work for you so I can get into the country.
It's scams on top of scams.
That's why we've suddenly had millions of people walking our streets who are not from here.
We don't know who they are.
But to the point today, how on earth could a 16-year-old Canadian kid possibly compete for a job in this market?
Foreign nationals who really do want to work are undercutting Canadians.
And many of them are fraudulent, literally paying to get hired just to get into our borders.
You actually have fully 3 million foreign nationals in Canada hunting desperately for jobs.
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We see that.
We see cases of a single job being advertised and hundreds of people applying for it.
They're desperate.
Huge lineups.
Something's got to break.
You know, I was in the UK last week, and the number one issue that got nearly a million people out to march in London was mass immigration that no one voted for, that no one asked for, that no one approved.
We've actually got it much worse in Canada proportionately.
The numbers I just told you, they would be doubled in the case of the UK.
They're not.
We actually have more migrants than the United Kingdom proportionately and in absolute terms.
Now, in the UK, the new Reform Party, as it's called, they're the voice for those who want to stop in migration and start remigration to have not just net zero migration, but to have mass deportations.
That's Nigel Farage's party.
If Pierre Polyev's Conservatives want to win, they better start doing the same.
Stay with us for more.
Well, as you know, for most of last week, I was in the United Kingdom.
We took a mission.
A couple of dozen of the most enthusiastic rebel news viewers from around the world, as far away as Australia and Canada, joined me in London for what turned out to be the largest free speech rally in UK history.
And depending on whose estimates you believe, it may be the largest political demonstration ever of any sort in the UK.
They say that the record was about 30 years ago, an anti-war rally when Tony Blair was prime minister.
They say that had 750,000 people attending.
Of course, many of those would have been sponsored by the Socialist Workers' Party and other professional groups, but there's no denying it was large.
Well, Tommy Robinson's rally on Saturday was completely organic.
There was no political party that had sitting politicians.
There was no legacy media promoting it.
So the numbers that were there were very authentic.
It was enormous, and I was honored to participate.
You know, I was given five minutes to make my own remarks.
And I saw Trevor Phillips and his analysis.
Trevor Phillips, the former head of the Human Rights Commission in the UK.
And I thought that he actually, for the mainstream media, was the fairest commentator of them all.
He, in a way, said that some of the protesters didn't know exactly why they were there, but they had a feeling that something was wrong.
Here, I'll let Trevor Phillips speak for himself.
Here's his own words describing many of the people he bumped into at the rally.
And even that alone is a bit of a miracle for a mainstream media journalist to actually go amongst the unwashed masses.
That's something that the BBC certainly wouldn't do.
Here, here's Trevor Phillips in his own words.
But I think that for those who oppose Robinson and his ilk, the most alarming aspect of the event was just how normal the vast majority of the marches were.
I spent an hour or two amongst them, and my own impression was that they were mostly the sort of people you'd meet in a country pub or in half-time queue for the loo at football or at a concert.
There was a sprinkling of black and brown faces, and the event was brought to a close by a gospel group singing Jerusalem.
All that must worry the traditional mass parties, Labour and Conservatives, now polling at less than 40% between them.
They're draining support to parties like Reform and the Greens.
And yet, a man recently out of jail, condemned as an extremist thug by most mainstream media outlets, can rally a demo the size of the entire population of Cambridge or Blackpool.
A feat you couldn't imagine either Sakir Starmer or Kemi Bednock pulling off anytime soon.
And I think he's right.
And one of the issues that I think animates at least a portion of the people who came out was the two-tier justice that the UK seems to see.
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And what I mean by that is there's a lot of trouble in the UK.
There's a lot of boiling public opinion.
But it's almost as if police check your ideological leanings or sometimes even your religion before deciding whether to prosecute and to arrest and what sentence you'll get.
Joining me now to talk about a crazy case from Stoke on Trent is Leilani Downing, a social commentator who joins us now via Zoom.
Great to see you, Leilani.
Nice to meet you officially.
I really enjoy following you on X and thanks for being with us today.
Thank you so much.
I'm the same way I follow you.
I love rebel news and it's great to be on.
Thank you for having me on here.
Well, it's our pleasure.
I was following your account because I like you.
You obviously survey a lot of things.
You keep your eyes peeled.
And I also get, I like the fact that you're a farm girl because, of course, Rebel News, we have a bit of a Western Canadian tradition.
Our chief reporter, Sheila Gunread, is a farmer too.
So I get a kick out of that.
You have farming tips, which are good.
But today was a very serious matter.
Let me just show on the screen the story that you brought to your viewers' attention.
Jailed Hanley, Hanley is a locality.
Jailed Hanley Riot's dad was chanting, who the F is Allah?
Nathan Poole was getting his hair cut when he found out about the protests.
So Nathan Poole is the name of a 32-year-old dad, and he got swept up in some political protests.
He himself, there's no evidence that he rioted.
There's no evidence that he did anything violent.
I've read this story twice, and they quote what he said.
He said, who the F is Allah?
Of course, he used the swear, not the shorthand.
And he said, you were all effing nonces, which is the British way of saying a pedophile.
He was chanting scum and he argued with police.
So I'm not going to say I adore or admire any of those things.
I think some of them are rude.
I think it would probably be rude to say to a Muslim who the F is Allah, just like it would be rude to say to a Christian, who the F is Jesus, I suppose.
But rudeness is not a crime.
But Nathan Poole, a father, is now sentenced to 30 months in prison.
Leilani, what do you make of that?
See, this came to my attention because it's actually very close to where I live in Staffordshire.
So it came up in the local news, and I thought I'd look into it more.
And, you know, we've seen Starmer tell President Trump that there is still free speech in Britain.
And you can see there's not.
Now, like you, I disagree that he should have said that.
I mean, it's not something that he should have said that would have come out of my mouth.
But free speech is free speech.
And if he says that, he can have that opinion, he can ask that question, and he shouldn't have to go to jail for it.
Now, what makes it a little cloudy is because Lucy Connolly, like Lucy Connolly, he actually pled guilty.
But you know Tommy Robinson and you know from him how things can be manipulated and you can be intimidated and you may only have a duty solicitor giving you terrible advice because you can't afford your own solicitors.
But 30 months for saying that and not actually being violent is crazy to me.
There was a very famous BBC newscaster called Hugh Edwards.
Now, he pleaded guilty for having child sex images and videos on his phone.
He walked away free with a suspended sentence, didn't spend a single day in jail, and that was the judge's decision.
And I've actually, on my Twitter feed, put a lot of other sentences like that where people with the most heinous images on their phones have pled guilty or been found guilty, and the judges decide that they just need rehabilitation.
So to me, 30 months, whether or not he pled guilty to disorder, it doesn't matter.
I think a judge should see that he wasn't violent.
He simply used very offensive words and he should not have been locked up, especially not for 30 months.
I mean, it's an insane amount of time for just being stupid in the moment and saying silly words.
Yeah.
The article in Stoke on Trent Live, which is a local newspaper, it's fairly written fairly straight.
Like it's not torqued one way or the other.
So I'd like to quote from the article because it has some facts that I think strengthen what you've just said there, Leilani.
Quote, and I'm quoting now from the lawyer, there was no clear evidence that he was physically involved in any fisticuffs.
Quote, he did not attack the police.
He could not be seen to throw any missiles.
He did not damage any property.
He knows that by shouting the comments that he made, that he was part of the incident.
But the judge found Poole had, quote, displayed hostility towards Islam.
So no one said he actually threw anything or hurt anybody or threatened to hurt anybody.
But what bothered the judge was quote, hostility towards Islam.
And I'm saying the words quote because I want you to know this is not my paraphrasing.
You're allowed to be hostile to any religion.
And by the way, you're allowed to be a Muslim who is hostile towards Islam.
My great late friend Tarek Fatah was a powerful critic and reformist.
And the idea that you cannot be hostile to an ideology, to a philosophy, and you get banged up for 30 months for that is shocking.
It is.
It's shocking, and it's very dangerous as well.
You know, to see this happening right now while our prime minister blatantly lies, saying that we can all say what we want, is so dangerous.
And it's a really, really bad slippery slope, I feel.
And as I said, you know, yes, he pleaded guilty for saying those things, but we've seen, you know, he called someone a paedophile, right?
No, he wasn't done for liable or anything else.
And we're seeing actual paedophiles get less time.
That's what we're seeing.
That's how insane the system is in the UK.
Now, we've also seen the most vile words being used in the last few days since Charlie Kirk's assassination.
And the police haven't gone for those people because they've been offensive, because they've been hostile to be, because they've been rude to people that, you know, really liked and respected Charlie Kirk.
We haven't seen police going over and arresting people for that kind of hostility.
So it really is a one-way street with what we're seeing here.
I think you're right.
And that's that two-tier thing.
I mean, the thing is about this fella here, Nathan Poole.
I don't think he's a prominent person at all.
I think he's just a regular guy.
The case of Lucy Connolly, and you referred to that a few minutes ago, she was the wife of a politician, a city councillor.
So she had some access to power and access to media and access to public sympathy.
But this is, as Morrissey would say, nobody's nothing.
This is a person no one's heard of.
And he was railroaded, it sounds like, with a lawyer who didn't fight hard for him and 30 months in prison.
I know in Canada, because there's a lot of street protests in Canada, if you were to do and say these things, most likely police would just shove you away.
Or if they were to arrest you, they would just put you in the police station for a few hours to cool you off and then let you go.
And they would hope that that experience sort of dampened your ardor.
That's what happened to me.
I don't know if you know, Leilandi.
I was arrested and held for a couple of hours just because police had nothing to charge me with.
They just wanted to move me away.
I didn't like it one bit.
But the idea of 30 months in prison, you're so right.
Donald Trump coming to the UK and Keir Starmer again and again lying about free speech or even using weird language saying we have a great history of free speech.
Well, yeah, that's the thing.
It's the present and the future we're more worried about.
Do you think Donald Trump is going to raise this issue or do you think he's going to be on his diplomatic best behavior?
I hope he does raise the issue and it really needs to be raised.
I, you know, God bless him.
I watched Charlie Kirk when he came over and he really fought Lucy Connolly's corner on a couple of news stations and he said he was going to talk to the Trump administration on her behalf.
And I believe that Lucy Connolly did actually meet with the Trump administration after she was let out of jail.
So let's just hope that he remembers that and he does press Keir Starmer on it because, you know, someone has to.
We in the UK are pretty worried about it.
And, you know, I'm in America right now.
I'm actually in Los Angeles and I've worn this hat that says make England great again.
And I've actually had a lot of Americans come up to me and say, don't you guys have a First Amendment?
What's happening with your free speech?
Now, you wouldn't expect that in, you know, really liberal Los Angeles, California, but it's happening.
People have been asking me about it.
And I think the world's getting smaller because of shows like yours, because of live streaming social media.
I think that, you know, the message is getting out.
We're seeing what's happening in Canada.
We're seeing what's happening in the USA.
And Canadians and Americans are watching what's happening in the UK.
So I really, really hope that Trump isn't on his best behavior.
He shouldn't be.
He usually isn't.
So, you know, hopefully he doesn't feel he has to be really polite to Starmer.
And he really, you know, kind of nails it in.
You know, I think he's excited about this state visit.
I think he enjoys meeting the British royal family.
I think he really enjoyed Queen Elizabeth.
He seemed to get along well with the prince that he met last time.
So I think sometimes Trump wants the visuals, wants the pomp and circumstance to be great.
I mean, even if you look at his personal style, there's no royalty in America, but he is sort of a kind of royalty.
Everything's in gold and glamorous and nothing but the best.
So I think that Kirst Starmer, by offering him such a fancy and pomp and circumstance style reception, maybe knows how to work Trump a bit.
I think it's JD Vance and Secretary of State Mark Rubio, Marco Rubio, who are a little bit more immune to those charms.
We'll see how it goes.
You know what I think, Leilani, is I think that one of the things that may come to help free speech in the UK is not just politicians talking about idealism, but social media companies, most of which are American, saying to the president, hey, we're about to be fined billions of pounds by their censorship rules.
So it's not even just a moral issue.
It's a commercial issue.
Those Europeans, not just the European Union, but the Brits, want to censor us, fine us, block us, ban us.
And that's a form of a non-tariff barrier.
That's a kind of trade war.
It walks and talks like censorship, and it is, but hey, it's going to cost us money.
Now, that's a language Trump speaks too.
And that may be what causes the free speech wave.
I don't know.
What do you think of that?
You know, I think you're absolutely right.
I think that you can see it's happening now.
Starmer's really trying to really trying to get his grips on social media because the thing is, is that's how the truth gets out.
You only have to see how many people watch the live streams of the rally at the weekend to see that the mainstream media is lying.
And, you know, Trump, sorry, Starmer cannot control the social media companies.
He really, really wants to.
So the only way he can control it is to start censoring it.
And if it does affect those American companies, then I do think, you know, Trump is all about business.
He's all about America.
And I think that could be possibly the only way he starts to take it seriously.
I got one last question for you, Leilani, and it's about Elon Musk.
On Saturday, Tommy had a bunch of speakers.
I was one of them.
Avi Yamini of our station was one of them.
And there were some British activists who spoke.
There were a lot of European politicians too that probably weren't household names, but Tommy has sort of built a coalition of populist nationalists.
But the surprise guest speaker who beamed in at 5 p.m. sharp was no one less than Elon Musk.
He didn't attend in person for logistical and security reasons, but it was an 18-minute back and forth, and he used some very strong language.
Put aside the substance of his speech, just the fact that he was willing to be personally associated with Tommy Robinson, despite the defamation of Tommy by the regime media, despite the fact that he's basically being treated as an enemy of the state.
I mean, Tommy was in prison just a few months ago.
So the fact that Elon Musk would associate with him, praise him, help him.
What effect does that have in the UK?
I mean, some people in the UK hate him, of course, but I think others look up to Elon Musk in different ways.
Has that changed the politics at all, do you think?
Well, I think what's happened is a lot of the politicians can't necessarily attack the people because they've seen how huge it is.
They've seen how big this movement is.
And while they keep trying to say everyone was there was far right, which they're not, or they try to say everyone was racist, which they're not.
We've seen a lot of there was black, Asian, all sorts of people there at that rally.
We've seen they're not.
Now what I've noticed they're trying to do is attack Elon Musk because they have to attack something.
They have to attack something within the movement.
And people aren't going to keep listening to these disparaging comments about Tommy over and over again when they get proved wrong.
So now they're just saying, you know, what's this tech billionaire getting involved with British politics for?
But I do think that Elon is a free speech absolutist.
You know, you can call him a technique brat.
You can worry about the, you know, the chips he wants to put in brains and whatever else is going on.
But I do think he's a free speech absolutist.
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And Twitter gave Tommy a massive platform to be able to put his documentary out for people to see.
And so many people were able to see the two-tier policing, the lies, the corruption.
And I think that's probably how Elon kind of got to know who Tommy was, seeing this documentary just blow up all over X.
And I personally, I'm always a little mixed on Elon as for the things I've said, but I'm really glad that he did come on there and give his time to say what's going on in England.
And he gives it an even bigger platform.
So I'm really grateful that he did that.
I think it's really huge for us.
And, you know, like I said, like the politicians now are going to attack him because they're finding it hard to attack, you know, us.
There's too many of us.
Yeah.
Very interesting days.
The battle's not over, though, as the sentencing of Nathan Poole shows.
In fact, we have a new freelance reporter in the UK, Emma Dunwell, and I was speaking with her earlier today.
I want to see if we can make contact with Nathan Poole's family, because I think he was railroaded in part because he didn't have a strong lawyer.
And a lot of working class Brits, I mean, who has a lawyer?
No one has a lawyer on standby.
And they're pressured, they're railroaded.
I really feel like this guy was railroaded, just like Lucy Connolly.
So, I mean, I say that things have never been worse in the UK, but I think in some ways things have never been better either.
When you have such a massive group of people standing up, I think the people are finding their identity and their courage again.
And I'm riveted by it.
I'm a bit of an Anglophile, anyways, but I like seeing how it goes.
Leilani, it's really nice to meet you.
Thanks for joining us today.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's great to have you.
I enjoy your Twitter feed also because it's part punditry and it's part, you're sort of like the lady Jeremy Clarkson, the farm hero of the UK.
So I get a real kick out of it.
And thanks for spending some time with us.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
All right.
You take care.
All the best.
There she is, Leilani Downing.
Stay with us.
More ahead.
Hey, welcome back.
Your letters to me about the big rally in London.
Raftwerk says, no wonder why the mainstream media is slowly fading out into irrelevance.
Yeah, you know what?
I was in a story by the Observer UK, which is a very old news magazine.
It's actually centuries old.
It's got a great old reputation, a great past.
I don't know if it's got a great present or future.
And they smeared me and smeared Tommy, and it was sort of laughable.
They dug up, it was just, it was a pretty weak hit job.
But I sort of felt like, who cares?
I mean, Tommy's live-streamed rally, last I checked, it had about a billion with a B views on different social media platforms.
What do I care if some little fancy pants magazine doesn't like me or Tommy Robinson?
I mean, that's the gift of Elon Musk by reviving canceled people and by re-platforming canceled people.
That's why the left hates Elon Musk so much, because he's allowed everyone to go around the mainstream media.
Sure, I sort of care what they think because I don't like people lying, but there's so many independent journalists these days.
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I mean, there were dozens at the rally.
It almost doesn't matter.
Next letter by Super Dave YouTube says, I rode 650 miles on my bike to attend.
It was fantastic.
I believe it was easily a million attendees.
Check the drone pictures out.
Tommy is our new Churchill.
The rally was fun, happy, no trouble.
A great Patriots Day Out.
We will never surrender.
It really had a wonderful feeling to it.
Now, there was some serious rain.
In fact, it was sort of drenched for a bit there, but I guess that's the UK for years.
Always a little bit of rain.
Didn't stop people from coming in huge numbers.
John FL3LP says, Canadian citizens have to do the same.
Yeah, I mean, I was asked, why hasn't that spirit come here?
Because I see it in Ireland.
Huge rallies.
See it in England.
Huge rallies.
So what about Canada?
Well, it's interesting because in Ireland and England, they have the same problem.
The existing political establishment does not listen to them.
In Ireland, it's even worse than in England because there is no political party that has any standing in the polls that would tackle the problem.
As I mentioned earlier today, Nigel Farage's reform party in the UK is talking tough, and so they're leading the polls.
In Canada, we have the Conservative Party, which is sort of talking tough.
Pierre Polyev really didn't get into this subject in the last election.
He sort of avoided it.
He wanted to talk about carbon taxes.
He couldn't really.
He didn't want to talk about Trump.
I think he could have chosen the controversy of immigration, switched the subject off of Trump, and I think he could have won the election.
So I think the reason we're not having hundreds of thousands of people in the streets is because we're not in the crisis those countries are where no sitting parties will help them.
But we need the Conservatives to really make this their forceful issue.