Callum Darragh, journalist and Afghanistan expert, reveals the British government’s secret $7B airlift of tens of thousands of Afghans—far exceeding claimed interpreter numbers—silenced via superinjunctions during an election, benefiting Reform UK’s surge. He exposes Taliban normalization of Bakubazi, 10-40x higher Afghan crime rates in Western nations, and systemic failures like Canada’s unassimilated migrant communities, warning of cultural erosion and potential "nativist terror" if democratic reforms collapse. Darragh’s accounts, paired with Kipling’s colonial-era warnings, underscore a decades-long policy shift favoring dangerous migration over Western values, while leadership conflicts—like Mark Carney’s American-owned holdings and Trudeau’s deficit-driven spending—fuel public distrust. [Automatically generated summary]
What a fascinating interview we have for you today.
Unreal.
Callum Dara, who went to Afghanistan as a kind of citizen journalist, reports on what he saw, including a Canadian Taliban who was just so excited to see someone who spoke English with them.
We'll have the whole scoop.
You know, I only meant to talk to Callum for, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes, but almost an hour went by.
He just kept on telling me the most outrageous and incredible things, and they're terrifying too.
I think this is an important interview.
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Amongst his crazy stories, when he met a Canadian Taliban fighter.
We'll tell you that story and many more.
It's an interview you don't want to miss.
It's July 17th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you sensorism bug.
Yesterday, I told you about this crazy word, super injunction, which is an injunction that you can't even talk about because there's an injunction covering the injunction.
And maybe another super duper injunction is needed, so you can't even talk about that one.
What's so insane about this super injunction, it was the British government itself that asked the courts to silence any coverage of what they were doing.
This was not some private legal matter.
This was not protecting the identity of someone who was alleged to have committed or been a victim of, say, a sexual offense.
And maybe confidentiality would be appropriate.
This was a government engaged in a massive secret airlift of tens of thousands of Afghans, allegedly translators, though we read that there were only a thousand interpreters total.
And the flights and the accommodation and the expenditure of 7 billion pounds, which is more than 10 billion Canadian dollars, that is what was made secret over the course of an election.
And it was the Conservative government that kept it a secret first.
And then the Labor government that won the election agreed to keep it a secret.
So it's an astonishing thing.
And I thought, let's talk to a Brit who knows a little bit about the strange goings on of their government.
You might recall our last interview with our guest today was when he was arrested or detained at least and subject to hours of grilling about his journeys around the world.
No charges laid.
Just the abuse of the Terrorism Act, which we know from our friend Tommy Robinson, can be used for any reason or no reason just to subject you to questions for six hours and you have no right to remain silent.
There are some quite quirky things about the UK.
You wouldn't believe they were the cradle of freedom of speech not long ago.
Joining us now to talk a little bit about what Afghanistan is like and what many of these thousands of new Brits might be like is Callum Dara, a journalist and travel adventurer journalist, I would say.
Callum, great to see you again.
Good to see you again, man.
Doing well.
I'm doing well.
I am doing slightly better as a Canadian, I think, than I would be doing if I was a Brit.
Was a Brit, I would have my faith in democracy shaken that two different opposing parties can collude with the courts to silence any discussion or any knowledge about such a key factor.
Even MPs were barred from knowing it.
How does that make you feel as a Brit?
I mean, I'm not picking on you.
You're just the only Brit I know who's been to Afghanistan.
We'll talk about that later.
What do you think of this whole superinjunction story?
Well, I mean, for a while, I mean, pretty much everyone I know now considers the British government deeply illegitimate as an organization because, as you mentioned, the two major parties colluded on this.
It's not the first thing they've colluded on.
And what are they colluding to do?
Well, everything they can, seemingly, to destroy the native population.
Just anything against their interest seems to be what they want.
And then you have this extra aspect of censoring it.
Like you say, the superinjunction.
It's a huge deal.
And it's not the first time they've done super injunctions or weird censorship or cracking down on people who say the wrong things, you know, visiting pensioners for criticizing government policy and then saying they're going to charge them with hate crime legislation.
I mean, there's just so many layers to this.
So the average British person now is just so done, just utterly finished with the people in the establishment.
I mean, you see the rising sport for reform, and they were always considered a bit of a protest party.
And that protest is fundamentally, we're done with the entire former elites.
Like every single one of you sucks.
Yeah.
It's astonishing to me how Reform UK under Nigel Farage is doing in so many of these council elections.
I actually went to a by-election up north, a seat that became vacant because the Labour MP was caught beating up someone on videotape.
He had to resign.
There was a by-election.
It was one of the safest labor seats in the country and it flipped to reform.
And I went there and I saw the very simple slogan, Callum.
It was freeze immigration, stop the boats.
I think that is what resonated.
And I think ordinary Brits who sort of are apolitical or non-political, or even in the past have been sort of laborite, I think they're saying this is so out of control.
So the timing of this revelation, you know, people are primed to be against immigration.
I think they really did try and avoid this becoming an election issue.
I really think that the media party, the court party, and the political parties colluded to keep this out of the election.
I think this would have given Reform UK many more than the half dozen seats they got.
What do you make of the timing of all this?
Was it an election suppression thing?
What do you think people, what do you think the effects will be from now forward?
I'm trying to recall the exact timing of when they made it censor, but the feeling I get from watching people who have interacted with the state, I mean, the main person people should look to right now is Dominic Cummings.
So he used to be the special advisor to Boris Johnson.
And he spent the last month basically going out and doing these interviews saying, hey, guys, here's how the state actually works at a granular level.
And the fundamental premise is always covering up Whitehall's fuck-ups.
And Whitehall is sort of the White Hall is the senior bureaucrats.
Is that right?
Yeah.
So basically, his description is that when the Conservative Party were in charge, what's the weird aspect is that none of the ministers or the prime minister wanted to run the country.
They wanted to win the election and then do media stuff.
So the actual running of the country was left to bureaucrats.
And bureaucrats, they have their own objectives.
So they just do those.
And those objectives don't align with the public.
Big surprise.
So when it comes to them censoring this, this is very similar to the grooming gangs, where a lot of the censorship was permitted and greenlit because it was showing failures within the system.
If the bureaucrats were being shown to be effing up their job and not protecting the British people because the system is corrupt, that's when they'd institute censorship.
And this is exactly the same situation.
You know, we try and be open-minded to all people in the world.
That's sort of a Western trait is to be hospitable and to give people the benefit of the doubt.
And there's a very British notion of fair play and, you know, I think being on the positive side of things.
You know, I was in Eastern Europe a year or so ago.
And actually, it's also, I was in Iraq and not as dramatically as you were, but I was told that I was too smiley.
I smiled too easily.
And I said, thank you very much for trifles.
It was just a habit.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
And I was told you're coming across as an idiot because you're being effusive in your language.
Over here, you look like a dummy who can be conned and tricked because you're so goofy and Western and you're treating everyone naively.
I was sort of scolded for being, hey, hi, thanks, please.
And I think that's the difference between living in a high trust society where everyone is sort of hail fellow well met and a stranger is just a friend you haven't met yet.
Whereas if you're in Erbil Iraq like I was or even in parts of Eastern Europe, it's a tougher, harsher world.
Commanders' Rapists00:03:51
And I think any country that would open itself up to ordinary Afghan peasant, you know, Afghanistan annual GDP per capita, 450 bucks, any country that would bring in tens of thousands of Afghan men with their views on women and their views on rape and their views on homosexuality and their views on, you know, theft and their views on crime.
I think you're the dopey Westerner who is, yeah, come on in, guys.
What could go wrong?
I think that the Afghans are amongst the most, and I'm saying this not as a prejudice, but as an observation, the crime rate committed by Afghans in Germany and in UK and in Sweden and other places where it's tracked is 10, 20, 30, 40 times higher than for the domestic populations.
Am I wrong on that?
No, I mean, those facts have been known for what, at least 10 years now, ever since the migrant crisis started.
We had loads of Afghans coming over.
And I mean, to anyone who'd been to Afghanistan, it wasn't a shock.
Massive increased rates of rape, sexual assault, violence.
And it was like, well, okay, now that we know that information, what do we do with it?
That's usually what you do.
But every Western nation took the position of, oh, that's interesting.
Let's just bring more of them.
Which is just mad.
It was just absolutely madness.
I want to play a clip very briefly.
I showed this yesterday.
This is a Vice documentary showing British officers dealing with their Afghan counterparts.
And they were raising the sensitive subject that every night the Afghan leaders would rape young boys.
And the screams of those boys would wake up the British and in some cases, American and Canadian troops.
And that was just how it is.
Here's a clip from a Vice documentary in Afghanistan.
Before that briefing had happened, Major Schuba knew that three young boys had been shot dead on police patrol bases.
All three of them were chai boys.
So young boys who'd been abducted by the police commanders and were used as servants.
They serve tea, but also sex slaves.
They're raped by the police commanders.
And you see them on every base.
You see several boys, sometimes in uniform, sometimes not, but 13, 14 years old.
It's very common practice there.
Three of them have been shot dead by the police, one possibly by another chai boy, nobody's quite sure.
And he's just found out that a fourth boy has been shot at point-blank range in the leg for trying to escape.
And, you know, I was there, so he let me follow him to meet the acting police chief and confront him about this.
Yesterday, we had unfortunate news come in.
A young boy, about 13, 14 years of age, was shot.
Now, there's a couple of things on there that you and I have talked about.
We've had we've had all the PV commanders in this very room about having young boys and civilians on PVs.
I have mentioned it more than 20 times.
I know, I know.
Why was there a boy on that BB?
What did that commander say to you?
I have heard that that information, that knowledge that the, quote, allies of the West were raping boys has been a source of PTSD for many soldiers who encountered it.
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Tell me about your own travels to Afghanistan.
Is rape culture that normal?
Like you saw that Afghan leader saying, What do you want me to do?
You know, screw a grandma, these boys.
It's like he was defiant.
He was almost boastful about it.
He wasn't denying it.
He wasn't ashamed by it.
He was saying, This is how we do it here.
What do you make of that?
Well, I'll tell you a story.
So we're driving down in Kabul, and it's me, my friend Lord Miles, and then we've got a taxi driver who's an Afghan.
Interesting other story.
That guy had broken into Europe back in 2016, but they came back to Afghanistan because he wasn't actually flewing anything.
He was just bored.
Whole other story.
So we're driving.
We get to these checkpoints.
There's checkpoints every 500 meters in the city.
And the Taliban, they look in the car, see if you've got anything weird, and maybe pull you up.
So quite rare they actually pull you up, but they did on one checkpoint we're at.
This guy comes over, he's patting me down, and I say a few words of Pashtu to him.
He looks back at me and is all excited, starts blabbering and Pashtu.
And I'm like, oh, crap.
English, English.
Oh, English.
English.
Okay.
Guy comes over, full gear, AK, looks at us and goes, oh, hi, guys.
How you doing?
What the fuck?
Hey, mate.
Yeah, we're from England.
And he goes, oh, I'm from Canada.
You've joined the Taliban?
And he's like, yeah, yeah, I came over to fight the jihad.
My parents moved to Canada and I grew up there and it was terrible.
Kufar.
And we're like, okay, buddy.
So we're chatting away.
We're trying to get an interview.
And he's like, no, no, no.
And we're like, oh, okay, we're going to have to head off then.
And the driver taps us and is like, we got to go now.
Now.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
See you guys.
And he's like, bye.
Get back in the car, drive off.
We're like, what was the problem?
He said, oh, the older Taliban in the back, we're looking at you two white boys with blue eyes and muttering about how beautiful you are.
Oh my God.
We're like, ah, okay.
Because you've got no recourse if they want to take you.
What are you going to do?
Cry?
They've got guns.
So we're talking to the driver.
We're like, okay, so how common is that?
I'd heard it's out here.
And he says, well, it's a bit of a regional thing.
Because Afghanistan is divided into different ethnic groups.
And in the south, he says the people down there, they're really into boy love, Bakubazi, as it gets called.
And you'll see them driving around sometimes.
And it looks like bring your son to work day, but you know it's not their son.
Oh my god.
So what we're like, okay, what about the rest of the Afghans?
Do you like things that's disgusting?
And he's like, oh, yeah, up in the north, we think this is vile.
A whole bunch of ethnic groups don't do this.
We think it's against Islam.
But the guys in the South, they don't care.
It's like, oh, okay.
So, what do you say about it?
He's like, oh, we have a saying.
When a bird flies over to the south, it flies with one wing because it needs the other to cover its arsehole.
All right, buddy.
So we keep carrying on.
We end up at the Kabul Zoo, in fact, later on in the trip.
And these Taliban are looking at us taking pictures of the animals.
So they're like, oh, why are you here?
What are you doing?
I'm like, oh, fair enough.
You know, they're the government, white people, we should explain.
We have tourism, blah, blah, blah.
And my friend says, crack the joke to them.
Say we don't like people from the south because they do boy love.
And the translator goes, hang on.
Blah, blah, They're from Kandahar, mate.
I'm not telling them the joke.
They're from the South.
Ah, okay.
Good job.
And then we ought to take pictures.
And these guys are like touching our arms to, you know, cattle around, take a picture.
Now, us in the West, we think that's pretty normal.
You and the boys, lock arms, take a photo.
In Afghanistan, no, You do not touch your hands to yourself.
So these guys are doing this.
And then we realize, oh, no.
Oh, they're not looking at us because we want to be friends.
So then we'll make excuses.
We're like, we're going to go.
We've got a place to be.
Sorry, guys.
Chat to you later.
And they're like, oh, I'll talk to you later.
I'm like, we go back to the compound.
I felt physically sick.
Like, it's the first time I felt utterly revolted.
Because not only do you know that they could do this, nothing you can do, but then also they think that's normal.
Yeah.
And they're doing this to young boys.
And you're like, right.
They think that's normal.
They think that should be legal.
And then when you get home, you research it.
And it's not like it's a Taliban versus non-Taliban thing.
The old government, the guys we were supporting, like you show in that clip, those were the guys we put in power.
We were paying their salaries, et cetera.
And they were doing that and thinking it's completely normal.
And guess what?
Those are the people you've brought to the West now.
Thanks.
Absolutely wonderful.
I mean, I don't know why we couldn't just put them in Pakistan or Saudi or some other regional country like Kazakhstan.
But instead, no, we're going to bring them to the West.
Then they're going to bring that attitude.
And it's not just for young girls they're going to be raping.
Young boys, they're pretty happy on.
And even grown men.
So it's not just your daughter you've got to worry about, it's yourself.
Wow.
You know, you make me remember.
I wrote a book about Omar Cotter.
That was a Canadian terrorist who went overseas and murdered some Americans.
I got to know the psychiatrist, the forensic psychiatrist who dealt with him at Guantanamo Bay, who believes that Omar Cotter, because he was a teenager, he was raped by Al-Qaeda Taliban.
And that was the one thing in all their interrogations when it was raised.
He sort of got defensive and anxious about.
I totally believe it.
And you can imagine how generation after generation, men who themselves were abused become abusers.
And especially if the culture normalizes it, at least in Western society, sexual abuse is a taboo.
It's frowned upon.
If it's done, it's usually done by a predator who uses secrecy or stealth.
But it sounds so open in Afghanistan.
And one of the terrifying things we've learned lately about the Pakistani grooming gangs in the UK or Syrians is that they do it as friends, as family members, even.
Like there's not even like there's no shame even amongst the family if a member of the family is engaging in rape, he calls the other family or friends over to participate in it.
The craziest story I ever wrote for the Toronto Sun, and I was sort of surprised they let it through, but it was factually accurate, was a bus in Pakistan where there was a boy on it, and men at the back of the bus started raping the boy.
And the bus driver, instead of calling the cops, pulled the bus over and joined in.
The Western high trust society that we've taken centuries to build, if a woman says, help, help, men come and help.
But in this mindset of the rape culture, help, help means get in on it.
And we don't realize how many centuries it took us as the West to build a culture where women are safe, where the default is to respect and protect women, that a taxi driver who picks up a drunk woman at the bar at 1 a.m. to take her home, his instinct is protective, not take advantage.
So many cases of taxis, including in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, a series of rape charges against taxi drivers from Arabia who just can't believe that the men would let their women out.
I mean, the whole idea of a male guardian and trusting women in a burqa is that's how you defend against this rape culture.
How do you raise a woman in the rape culture?
Well, you put a sack over her and you make sure she's never out of reach of a man.
It's insane.
And that's being brought to the UK by the tens of thousand.
I think the number is now, whilst they include the extended family who come with, up to 150,000.
So that's a whole town.
But just forever is now going to be Afghan.
Thanks.
Great.
And the aspect you say there about women, hey, it's not just women.
You've also, as you mentioned, the boys.
And with me being there, grown adults.
Also, fair game.
You've all got to be worried about that.
But getting to Canada, I just want to mention, they mentioned of that 150,000 that are coming, they said, oh, well, we had to keep it all secret.
And part of the reason for that is we didn't do any checks.
We don't know who these people are.
So they say they're an interpreter.
I mean, some of them said that we're cooks, which I'm not really sure how serving a British guy a meal entitles you to an infinite permanent residence in Britain, but whatever.
So then you've got people who are just lying.
Yeah.
And then they came out and said, oh, by the way, some of the people we did let in, we actually had done checks on because that was before we ran out of time.
We knew there was security risk and we brought them in anyway.
So now they're here.
So we've just got terrorists here.
Great, great.
Thanks.
I understand that one of the Afghans who sort of threatened to extort the Ministry of Defense by shopping some lists to Taliban, he himself, the extorter, was allowed in.
I mean, is there any way to reverse this?
First, let me ask you this.
The news sources I follow are often citizen journalists like yourself, podcasters, bloggers, alternative media.
And there were a couple of I call them mainstream media who were actually trying to get this super injunction lifted.
Now, they went big on the story.
It's true.
But when I checked the BBC homepage, they were trying to downplay this story tremendously.
There was some cooking show that was the story of the day or something.
How this should be, in my view, the biggest story in the United Kingdom.
It should be such a scandal that an election should be held because they deprive the people of, I think, what could have been the most important election issue.
That's how I feel over here in Canada, though.
What does it look like in the UK?
Has this permeated into ordinary conversation?
Has the media tried to dampen it?
Or is this a wild story?
So online and in right-wing media, it exists.
On the BBC, it was wiped from the front page.
It just wasn't there.
Just like you say.
As for a solution, I mean, I mentioned Canada because I mentioned there was terrorists comes to the UK.
When I was in Afghanistan, there was a guy running a compound we're in, and he had some level of security clearance.
He was looking us up, so we're hanging out with him after he's cleared us up.
And we're like, oh, buddy, what are you going to do for work?
Because there's like no one in this hotel, it's just us.
So he says, yeah, yeah, that's how it going.
So I'm looking up security work right now.
There's a guy who wants to hire me in Canada because Canada has let in loads and loads of people, the exact same situation, and they also did no checks.
Like, what?
It's like, yeah.
So they're hiring anyone who has any expertise in Afghanistan to check who these people are for counter-terrorism purposes.
Never mind the other risks that involve that we talked about.
Yeah.
So I'm like, oh, okay.
So when I get home, it turns out in Canada, the Taliban is still listed as a terrorist organization.
I don't know if that's still the case, but it was three years ago when I was talking about this.
And watching things play out, I mean, this is going to be controversial for some people, but honestly, keep in mind in Afghanistan, there is no choice between the Taliban government and liberal democracy where there's women's rights and blah, and all this, you know, fantasy.
The options in Afghanistan are the Taliban or ISIS.
Okay?
That's your two options for the government right now.
So the Taliban are in charge.
And when I spoke to the Taliban at the parade we attended, I asked them what's their justification for their state.
And they justified on ethnic lines, not religious.
They were like, hey, we're real Afghans want to run Afghanistan.
It's going to be an Islamic country and Islamic state.
But they weren't making these claims of we're going to take over the whole world.
There was just one guy there who claimed that he was not part of the organization.
So when I look at Afghanistan, what they've done since they issued an amnesty for those who fought against the government.
Some of them then tried to organize a resistance movement.
So they got killed.
Big surprise.
The Russians have just declared that they recognize Afghanistan, the Islamic State, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
It's the new Taliban government.
They're the first country to do it.
So they've now opened an embassy.
And when I was there, there were British guys trying to get the contacts to reopen the British one at some point.
There seems to be this understanding in international Western governments that we're going to have to recognize them at some point.
They've not done anything crazy.
We freeze their accounts.
We expect them to go on a genocide or something.
They didn't do any of that.
They want to work with us.
We've now got massive populations of Afghans in our countries who have been convicted of rape, convicted of crimes, or are terrorists.
They deserve to go home.
They deserve to be deported.
And we can't do that until we recognize the government in Afghanistan and organize diplomatic relations, et cetera, et cetera.
So probably the solution, as unpalatable as it might be to some people, is to just recognize their rule and then start operating with them like any other country, sending back rapists and murderers and such.
Now, again, this might be a bit of a bitter taste for a lot of people, but we have to accept we lost.
War's over, buddy.
And when you lose, you don't get to dictate the outcomes.
The people there get to dictate the outcomes.
And if we want to engage with that in any way, we've got two options: work with the Taliban who are in charge.
On the opposition are ISIS, who we're just not working with, unless you're a crazy person.
Oh, my God.
We're talking with Callum Dera, a journalist who has been, as you can hear, on the ground in Afghanistan.
Now, you mentioned Canada a couple of times.
I'm glad you did.
We, of course, are based in Canada, although we have a deep affection for the United Kingdom.
Can you tell me a little bit?
You mentioned that one guy at the checkpoint, the Canadian who was happy to chat with you.
Can you tell me, was he a white ethnic Canadian who converted to Islam, or was he an immigrant to Canada who then went back?
Like, what was he like?
Was he a convert?
So he was a brown chap.
So his family had immigrated from, I think, Pakistan, Afghanistan, I can't remember, to Canada.
And he'd grown up and then had this identity crisis of, hey, I'm a devout Muslim.
My family are Muslim.
We belong to this motherland back home.
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It's a war.
I should go defend my people.
So that's why he's back there.
Got it.
And that's the other aspect to all this migration is like, hey, you think these guys are just going to become Anglo-Saxon or Quebecois?
Yeah.
No.
No.
Like, come on.
I mean, how much of a problem has Canada had trying to integrate the Quebecois and the Anglo-Saxon population into the unified Canadian identity?
I mean, it's just been so difficult.
And still isn't really done.
Let's be frank.
You've still got big divisions.
So, yeah, we're going to take some people from Afghanistan, bring them in, and then question mark, question mark, they'll be integrated.
These things do not happen like that.
I don't know how naive or maybe malicious the people are in charge to claim this.
Wow.
Last year, there were riots in the United Kingdom when a young man whose parents came as refugees and he converted to Islam, Axela, and I always got his last name wrong.
I think it's Radi Kabana, if I'm saying it right, went to a young girls' party, a Taylor Swift-themed girls' party and stabbed and stabbed and stabbed and murdered young girls.
And there were riots in the streets.
And those riots were condemned as Islamophobic and racist.
And the government knew very quickly who the accused was and they hid his identity and it's and the cover-up and they set up 24-hour courts to prosecute people on social media.
24 hours a day, the courts put through as many people.
And Kier Starman, the former head of prosecutions in the United Kingdom, boasted that they were going to basically empty the jails of real criminals and fill it with thought criminals.
And indeed, they did.
This seems less acute in that there have been no murders of young girls.
But this seems like in the long term to be a much deadlier, much sneakier, much more malevolent problem than the Southport murders, as horrific as they were.
I fear that terrible things will come from this.
And I wonder if it can be undone.
What, you mean the suppression aspect to all of this?
No, just remigration.
I mean, in Canada, for the first time, our Conservative Party leader, who used to talk about big immigration in a positive sense, this week, for the first time, members said we need more people to leave than to come in.
That's a bit of a breakthrough for them.
Is it possible to have re-migration?
Is it possible to do what Donald Trump is doing?
He stopped in the, there's not boats in America.
There's just that border.
He sealed the border and he's trying hard to deport.
He just, he gave the immigration police $150 billion, which probably rivals the whole UK defense budget.
America is trying.
I mean, they may fail, but they have decided resolutely to try.
Will the UK do that?
As for whether or not it's operationally possible, piece of piss.
Like, it's quite funny how much we have this conversation that it's super difficult.
Oh, I can't do it because of legal reasons or any of that bollocks.
And with the United States, it's a little bit more complicated because they've got restrictions on government.
But with the UK, and I assume Canada, Parliament is sovereign.
Could do whatever the hell it wants, pass whatever the hell it wants.
And then you see, okay, well, can you move that many people that quickly?
Yeah, duh.
Like, you go check out the neighbors to Afghanistan.
When the Taliban took over, millions and millions of people fled because they didn't know what the thing was going to be like.
And then it turns out things are actually pretty chill.
You can go on holiday to Afghanistan.
The government had done a, you know, they're the Taliban, go around way of doing things, but they're not carrying out some kind of Somalia-esque chaos.
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Right.
So the governments of Pakistan and Iran both said, okay, well, we're just going to send these millions of people back then.
I think they deported.
In Pakistan, it was something like 4 million.
In Iran, something like 3 million.
And it was in the span of a few months.
It was nothing.
And then you think, okay, well, maybe we've got these problems because you've got to fly planes.
I mean, we transfer millions and millions of people every single year on aircraft.
It's not a difficult thing.
This technology is really boring.
In fact, so the several million you've got in Canada or the few million we've got in the UK, yeah, really easy.
All it requires is political will.
Yeah.
I think the courts in Canada are a little bit more bossy than in the UK.
Hey, Callum, I'm so grateful to you for what you've told me.
It's every word is an education and it's shocking.
You know, I mentioned before I'm a bit of an Anglophile, and William Shakespeare, of course, is my favorite poet, but a very close second is Rudyard Kipling, who was born, if I'm not mistaken, in India and spent a lot of time in the empire.
And he could sort of see which way the wind was blowing.
And he wrote a poem 108 years ago.
And I hope you don't mind.
I've read this once before on the show, and maybe people are tired of it.
I don't know if you've heard this poem.
It's called The Beginnings by Kipling.
And permit me just to read a little bit of it.
It was not part of their blood.
It came to them very late, with long arrears to make good when the English began to hate.
They were not easily moved.
They were icy willing to wait till every count should be proved ere the English began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show when the English began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud when the English began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred.
It was not swiftly, it will not swiftly abate through the chill years ahead when time shall count from the date that the English began to hate.
I get the chills reading that.
That is such an ominous, and it's respectful that the British are slow to anger.
The British are jolly and jovial and understanding and generous and magnanimous.
And another one of Kipling's poems, Take Up the White Man's Burden, which sounds terribly racist.
It's actually the opposite.
It's we have a duty to the world, lift up the world, help the world, teach the world, stop starvation, stop the famine.
And there's a vengeance coming to the UK.
You know, I was in Marseille a couple years ago, and I met an Algerian migrant who looked so Western on the outside, Callum.
He had a ball cap and he was dressed.
He had a very, very neatly trimmed beard, and he spoke a little French.
And I asked him about life in France.
He's an Algerian.
And he said, France colonized us for, I forget the exact number.
He said, like for 132 years, and we're here to repay the favor.
Like he basically said, we are here not as grateful settlers or migrants or refugees.
We are here for revenge, 130 years of revenge.
He said it calmly.
And I don't know what it'll take to wake up our happy Brits and happy Canadians.
Our American friends are a little more rebellious than they've woken up.
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I don't know.
I feel like I'm a little older than you.
I feel like I grew up in the happiest time of history.
Wealth, prosperity, peace, freedom, justice.
And I feel like in the last 20 years, someone, some group, some global decision has been made to upend our wonderful civilization and import the most dangerous alien people possible.
And I don't know, maybe last anecdote, and I played this recently, I was in Malmo, Sweden, in a neighborhood called Rosengard that was once 100% Swedish.
And I spent all day and I saw one Swedish woman.
I ran up to her and I said, what are you doing here?
What do you think of things?
And she didn't, how could she fight?
She was one Swedish woman.
So she basically said, oh, it'll be fine.
And I feel like the civilizational moment is here.
And there's so many people who just want to, I don't know, super injunction it.
Last word to you.
Well, you're right.
The English take a while to get to that place.
And this is usually in comparison to the French.
You know, one policy change and the French are outrioting.
The English will deal with terrible situation after terrible situation, stiff up a lip and then try and vote their way out.
Because everyone's always believed in the voting system.
Well, like I say, we've had now a situation where the establishment are completely rigged.
Both major parties betray us.
The side parties agree to the betrayal.
So now the only hope left that you find when you go and talk to people who aren't fleeing, because most of these people are just saying screw it and fleeing, like it's South Africa and they want out.
So the people are remaining, they've got one hope, which is they're putting all in reform and Nigel Farage.
Nigel Farage has been a bit timid on the whole re-migration stuff.
I'm hoping he won't.
But if he doesn't deliver, if he doesn't realign himself, I would not be surprised if there were a series of nativist terror attacks.
Because if you tried voting again and again and again and there's no political solution, what do you expect?
And if you think I'm being hyperbolic, we've already had a couple of these.
I mean, this isn't really that crazy.
I mean, you remember when there was this series of attacks in London on different bridges, London Bridge and Westminster Bridge?
Westminster Bridge, yeah.
Then there was this guy who was watching a documentary on grooming gangs.
I just couldn't believe how revolting it was that the British had done this and the Muslims had done this.
And then he saw the terrorist attack.
So he went and got a van and drove it in some innocent Muslims in a mosque.
Yeah.
When the boats were coming over en masse, some pensioner went and got a little molotov cocktails and started firebombing these welcoming centers and then killed himself.
So that's where it's at with people still have some belief in democracy.
If that's extinguished, what are you expecting?
Like, what would you really expect to happen at the end of all that?
And Nigel Farage said that, I think, in the last month, he said, beware of what comes after us.
If you want to, and I always said this about people like Nigel Farage, and even I've said this about Tommy Robinson, is they are keeping desperate people in the system.
And if you cut off the Tommy Robinsons and if you cut off the Nigel Farages, you aren't just cutting off those men.
You're cutting off the millions that these men have convinced to give it one more shot.
Tommy Robinson came back from Europe to meet his fate and spend his time in prison willingly.
He was submitting to the system.
You could disagree with him on 100 things, but he's still part of the system enough and respectful of the system enough that he submitted to its punishments.
That's sort of quite something.
Nigel Farage is trying so hard, and the man has his flaws.
I could list you 100.
But if these two men are cut off, there's millions behind them who say, well, if they can't do it, there's no chance.
And I'm afraid of what you just described.
You know, we love the Brits.
And of course, the slogan during the Second World War, keep calm and carry on.
That's such a British way of doing it.
But I think you bend over backwards so much, your spine will shatter.
I've learned a lot in our conversation today, and I've kept you much longer than I promised I would.
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I'm grateful to you.
Tell us how we can find your videos because you go to the most astonishing places and you've told us about it.
But how do people see your work?
What's the best way for people to follow you?
So, the best place would be on YouTube.
So, there's a YouTube channel called Britannica, or you could just type in tourism in Taliban, Afghanistan.
It'll probably show up in my face there.
But the most recent one was Iraq.
So, I decided to start the south, go to the north.
You know, some of the subjects we're talking about came up there as well.
And go and enjoy.
Yeah, I have so many things to say about Iraq.
We've gone over twice to try and help the Christian community there.
But the only useful help we could go give them was to get them the heck out of there.
We actually sponsored some families through the Nazarene Fund to get them into Australia.
I am of the unhappy belief that there is actually no safe future for Christians in Iraq, just like there is none in Syria, or even I'm worried about Lebanon.
I just think that those places are being colonized.
We forget that Istanbul was once Constantinople, Egypt was once a Christian country.
Those places have been ethnically cleansed, if I can use that word.
Maybe because they didn't fight back, or maybe because they tried to fight back and were simply beaten.
So much to say, Callum.
I won't keep you another moment, but I'm so grateful for your time today.
No problem, man.
Pleasure to be on.
Okay, well, stay safe.
You're doing incredible work.
All right, there he is, Callum Dera.
You can find him on his YouTube channel, Britannica.
And what an informative visit we've had today.
Stay with us.
Your letters to me next.
I've got letters on Mark Carney cutting spending.
I'm Malif says, it sounds more like Carney is planning on selling off Canada, especially with Bill C5.
There's so many things about Mark Carney's ownership.
The number one thing that gets me is that he refuses to sell these things.
It's nuts.
The second thing is that they're about 99.5% American companies.
I think there's like three Canadian companies on the list of 600.
I saw today a report of how many of these companies have been lobbying not just the government in general, but the prime minister's office since Carney became elected.
This is the worst conflict of interest.
Trudeau was a piker.
Trudeau was just stupid and greedy, and he just took free stuff.
But Mark Carney is being lobbied by his own companies that he still owns.
Michael Harrieta says, strangest results to cut must be the new math.
We went from a projected $42 billion deficit to a $62 billion to now a $92 billion deficit.
Strangest results due to subtraction I've ever seen.
The taboo on deficits is completely broken, which is a kind of generational theft.
I mean, if you rack up a deficit now, you're not going to be around to pay for it.
Your kids and your grandkids will.
Are you really buying something that important?
Is the $11 billion that Trudeau spent to promote feminism overseas really worth racking up a debt for your kids?
I doubt it.
On the public safety minister, Paul Power says he is incompetent.
He is a classic DEI hire elevated to a position he should never be in.
I'm going to disagree with your wording there.
DEI hire sounds like he's not competent.
He says he's incompetent.
No, no, the problem is he's very competent.
He was the lawyer, advocate, helper, promoter for a terrorist group.
That's not a man who's incompetent.
That's a man who's dangerous.
It's very different.
The fact that he would be allowed into cabinet and it's surely over the objections of the RCMP is just stunning.
Then again, we never did find out who those 11 Chinese MPs were.