Ezra Levant and David Atherton expose the UK’s two-tier free speech system, where Glastonbury’s £400 tickets fund anti-IDF chants like "from the river to the sea" with applause, while Lucy Connolly faces 31 months for a deleted tweet. Atherton criticizes BBC’s woke bias and Keir Starmer’s "nation of strangers" reversal amid surging immigration, praising Robert Jenrick’s housing-migration link but questioning Conservative leadership’s globalist drift. The UK’s immigration failures—like Rishi Sunak’s civil service abuses—highlight systemic flaws, with parallels to Canada’s 800,000 arrivals under Carney’s influence, suggesting elite complicity in both nations. [Automatically generated summary]
He's a rogue, troublemaking freelance journalist in the UK.
He's got a lot to say about freedom of speech, mass immigration, the Islamification of the public square, things like that.
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It might require you to pay closer attention because he doesn't speak like a Canadian.
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Tonight, the latest on two-tier justice, free speech, and mass immigration in the United Kingdom.
A feature interview with David Atherton.
It's July 1st, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Well, in the United States, there's a pretty cool music festival that's become super corporate.
It's called Burning Man.
It's in the middle of the desert.
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Tickets sell for thousands of dollars, depending on the kind of fancy tent you want.
But that's nothing compared to the UK version of that festival called Glastonbury.
£400, that's almost $700, for a regular ticket.
This is not a poor people's concert.
It's for the fancy people.
And one of the observations people always make is that the politics of Glastonbury are very much left-wing, progressive, exhibitionist, virtue-signaling luxury beliefs that come with a luxury concert.
For example, the security around Glastonbury is enormous.
Very tall fences, high security gates, while inside they talk about having no borders style open immigration.
It's quite something.
It's always been left-wing, but yesterday hit a new low.
Take a look at this singer from the band called Bob Villain.
I wonder if he knows that his riff on Bob Dylan, that Bob Dylan, was a Jew named Robert Zimmerman.
I don't think he knows, and he might change the name if he knew, because let me just sum it up.
That guy doesn't really like Jews, and he doesn't really like England either.
I'm going to play two clips from him.
Here he is chanting for the globalization of the Intifada and the ethnic cleansing of Israel.
Here, take a listen.
Free, free!
Free, free!
All right, but have you heard this one though?
Death to the IDF death death to the IDF death death to the IDF hell yeah from the river to the sea Palestine must be, will be.
Inshallah, it will be.
Yeah, you don't normally hear someone calling for chants of death outside of Gaza, but there it is amongst the fanciest in the UK.
And they just cheered.
But it's not just the Jews he has in his targets.
Although he himself was actually born in the UK, he despises the place.
Here, give them a listen.
Shut the fuck up.
Heard you want your country back.
Uh-uh, you can't have that.
The only place I know.
Skull and ground under my nose.
My ignorant scum.
Trying to lay claim to Atlanta eight days anyway.
Wait, what did you say?
How'd you want your country back?
Shut the fuck off.
How do you want your country back?
Uh-oh, you can't have that.
How'd you want your country back?
How'd you want your country back?
Well, shit, me too.
How do you want your country back?
Shut the fuck off.
How do you want your country back?
How do you want your country back?
You can't have that.
How do you want your country back?
How'd you want your country back?
Shut the fuck off.
How'd you want your country back?
Fuck, you can't have that.
The reason I mentioned that is because that was streamed live on the BBC state broadcaster.
It was an approved musical act by Glastonbury, and it was of a piece with other pro-terrorist acts.
And I say pro-terrorism, I'm not using that as an insult.
That is an observation.
There's an Irish band called Kneecap, named after the tactic of shooting people in the knees.
Their lead singer is almost 40, so he wears a face covering balaclava to appear younger and more menacing.
Kneecap, they go much further.
They don't dispense with using the word Zionist.
They just come right out and say it.
They're for the terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah.
They're not afraid to show it.
Here's a clip of them.
They were playing over the weekend in Glastonbury, and here they are in the United Kingdom, actually breaking out a terrorist flag, which is quite something.
I mean, if I said to you, can you acquire a terrorist flag?
You would probably say, I'm not sure how to do that.
These guys figured it out and they were only too happy to fly it.
a look.
Well, lots of humming and hawing the day afterwards, but the Met Police, which is a large police force in the United Kingdom, has announced that they will not be filing charges against kneecap, despite their overt support for terrorist groups.
And Bob Villen is at his most popular ever.
I think his talent agency has dropped him.
And I understand that the U.S. State Department has now canceled his visa.
He was planning a U.S. tour and he's planning to come to Canada too.
I say all this because that is the state of political discourse on the BBC, in pop culture, in the music biz.
And all of it is madly applauded and at most some tut-tutting by police.
Compare that to a mother named Lucy Connolly, who momentarily had a tweet using intemperate words in reaction to the stabbing of young girls by a Muslim convert in Southport some months ago.
Lucy Connolly, for a tweet that she quickly deleted, was sentenced to 31 months in prison, 31 months in prison, a decision that was upheld by an appeal court.
Welcome to Two Tier United Kingdom.
What a place to be.
And joining us now is one of my favorite guys who I think is the personification of the British spirit.
You got to love him.
His name is David Atherton.
He's a freelance journalist, and he joins us now.
David, great to see you.
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And you have always a pleasure to talk to you.
Have you ever been to Glastonbury, or is it just not your style?
No, I can't afford 400 quid.
That's just the cheap seats.
Yeah, 400 to get in the cheap seats.
It really is the fanciest people.
I saw some crowd shots, and I've got nothing against white people.
I'm white myself, but this really was the whitest, richest, I guess you would say middle class, even some posh people.
This was, I think, people cosplaying as progressives.
I think they were enjoying the frisson of badness of cheering for Hezbollah from their, you know, these are people who work behind desks, often for the government, often for NGOs.
And this was they get to play actors being bad boys for the weekend.
But they fully embraced anti-Semitism and I think anti-Britishism.
That's my take.
What do you think?
Oh, I agree with you on that.
It's a liberal left of prayer, so to speak, isn't it?
You know, it's as far as I'm concerned, these are the people that have, apart from Marxists who've marched long through the institutions, have all these woke ideologies and love to have trans kicks and they're right on and they're all pro-Palestinian, they're all anti-Semitic, all anti-Israel.
They're the most appalling people in the world.
They're the people I despise the most.
And also, one of the things that Bob Viner did was, you know, he said, one of these was, you know, one of the phrases that people on the centre-right used, we want to take our country back.
And he absolutely was contemptuous of that phrase, the fact that British people want to be ruled, ruled by, if you like, with the British culture.
That, to my mind, was equally as offensive on the way he went about things.
Though the death to IDF was bad enough, but he really did complete Hawlicks himself, a complete idiot of himself, and he's paying the price for it.
Also, Byway's record companies drops him as well.
It's not only his management, his record company has dropped him as well.
And when the Glassesbury Festival and the BBC both apologize for his performance, you know they know they've done quite a bit wrong.
So well, I take your point that certain musical establishments are now distancing themselves.
But I think he's probably more popular now than ever.
He's got more publicity now than ever.
And in the age of the internet, I think he's going to do very well.
I mean, kneecap, the harder and the crazier they go, the more pro-terrors they go, the more free headlines they get.
I mean, they're not particularly good musically, but like, I mean, look across the pond in New York City.
You've got Zorhan Mamdani, a communist Palestinian, pro-Palestinian extremist, is leading the polls to be the mayor.
So I think that the old establishment is distancing himself, but these are the princes of the new establishment.
And the worse they are, the more they're like that.
I don't know if you followed it in the UK.
This murderer, Luigi, this accused murderer, who walked up to a healthcare CEO and just shot him, assassinated him in broad daylight, has been turned into a kind of sex symbol hero by the left.
And I think there's a madness afoot.
Is that going on in the UK to the same extent?
Well, it is to a great extent.
The most horrible thing about Bob Violin's performance was anti-Semitism has now gone mainstream.
Everyone feels comfortable anti-Semitic.
I don't know whether I mentioned it, but I'm actually of Jewish heritage myself on my mother's side, going back to 1656 in Britain.
Well, with England, then it would have been in England and that time.
I don't get that much anti-Semitic submitting abuse by getting up to be getting on with it kind of thing.
So, no, this is really Britain has re-ducked itself a hole when it comes to who can have an opinion, who can't have an opinion, who gets cancelled for having an opinion, and who doesn't get cancelled for an opinion.
By the way, sorry, very briefly, I should also point out that even Ofcom have actually will be investigating the BBC because it went out live in the afternoon with supposedly with a family audience.
I think he swore as well.
So they could really, you know, he really could be, them and the BBC really could be in trouble.
You know, one of the tough things here is censorship because I think you and me both believe in freedom of speech.
And I'm not sure if I would want the government to ban anti-Semitic comments.
I think supporting a terrorist group, buying a terrorist flag, saying, you know, up with Hamas, up with Hezbollah, that might go beyond free speech to actual material support for a terrorist group.
And I have no problem with the US keeping out foreign troublemakers, but I do still have free speech instincts, even for those who are vile, like this Bob Villan.
Well, actually, actually, I do actually agree with you, actually, because the IDF is an entity.
If I said, you know, deaf to the Taliban, I don't think anyone would be bothered about it.
No, but saying deaf to the IDF, no, if you said, you know, deaf to Captain Owen, who's, you know, who works in the parachute regiment of the IDF, that obviously should be illegal.
But because it's a body, because it's an entity, maybe that should not be a prosecutable offense.
Well, here's my point, and it's the reason I mentioned Lucy Connolly: is the United Kingdom is becoming more and more censorship-oriented.
That the Times of London says literally every day there are 30 police actions involving a non-crime hate incident.
30 a day, such an astonishing large number.
Some cases, like Lucy Connolly's, are the most extreme.
And at the same time, they brush aside, ignore, or tolerate extreme bigotry, hate, pro-terrorism commentary.
I think there's a two-tier system here at play.
I mean, you mentioned Ofcom.
Here in Canada, we would refer to that as the CRTC.
It's the broadcast regulator that reviews shows.
They beat up GB News.
They beat up Mark Stein on GB News for interviewing a climate, a COVID skeptic.
Like they jump on Nigel Farage for not being balanced.
So they're exquisitely curious if there's a conservative who says something that's just edgy, although none of the people I mentioned have said anything like F the Jews or whatever.
But they're just absolutely timid to take on a crowd of tens of thousands of cheering Hamas supporters.
I think they're afraid.
I think they're politically afraid.
That's my beef with the UK.
It's a two-tier justice system.
Imagine if Tommy Robinson had said those things that Bob Villain had said.
He's banged up for 10 years for that.
By the way, I seem to be the only person who's come up with this unique, unique theory what's going on in the world or with his brother, what have you.
I think at the moment the West is going through a Spot of Stockholm syndrome, whereby, because there's large amounts of often aggressive and sometimes violent Muslims in Europe, it seems to be the best way to appease them is to be anti-Israel and pro-Hamas.
That's my theory for what it's worth.
No one else has mentioned it.
But that's my theory.
People in the West are supporting Hamas out of self-protection, as a means of self-protection, I should say.
And when you sort of move on to two-tier policing and two-tier justice, Sakir Starmer opened up the courts 24 hours, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, until he banged up as many people as he could.
There were people there, Peter Lynch.
He was just standing around verbally abusing the police.
And he was given two years in jail and in jail because he was under threat from Muslim inmates.
He committed suicide by hanging.
It's absolutely disgusting.
It's not only him.
There's Wayne O'Rourke.
He's serving three years.
He's serving three years at the moment.
And the worst thing he said was he commented on burning cars and he said, let's have some more.
Let's have some more of that.
Go on, lads.
He was encouraging people.
He shouldn't have said that.
He's wrong to say that.
He should be punished for it, but it should not be three years.
And I think what Starmer felt at the time of when Astel Kabbalah murdered those three little girls was he knew how angry we were.
And we still remain angry.
And the fact that Tommy Robinson was banged up for such a long time and treated so horribly, which brought him on torture, it's all welling up.
And the fact, the fact that the Labour Party were against the National Groomie Inquiry, when they're going to have blood all over their hands on something like that, the Labour Council deliberately went out and covered it up.
Some councillors were actually involved in the abuse of the girls themselves.
And certainly there was a lot of the councillors that actually were actively involved in suppressing it, along with the police and social workers who didn't want to be thought as being racist and lose their jobs should they have to do it properly and even a measure as opposed to a two-tier measure.
An example, there are two left-wing oriented, I'm saying left-wing oriented, but two non-so-called far-right people, Ricky Jones.
He was seen in one of the post-Southport riots drawing his finger across his throat.
Yeah, he was a Labour councillor, wasn't he?
Labour councillor, yeah.
He's not in court until the 30th of August.
If he'd been a so-called far-right protester, he would have been banged up and given four years in jail.
There were two Muslim guys who were coming back from Manchester Airport, and they got in a fight with the police.
And they broke the nose of a policewoman and also assaulted another officer.
It was a secure area of the airport as well, high security area of the airport.
And they started a fight.
And they're actually in court today.
And as far as we're concerned, 31 months, which is what Lucy Connolly got, is the bar for these people.
But I'll tell you what, we're going to see two-tier justice here.
They're probably going to get suspended sentences or maybe three to six months at the very best.
The world is watching them, and we know full well that justice will not be served.
You know, the Attorney General in the United Kingdom is a lawyer named Richard Hermer, who before he became a Labour MP, he represented a series of terrorists.
I mean, that was his specialty is representing anti-British terrorists.
And I suppose one could say everyone deserves a lawyer just because you defend a murderer doesn't mean you're pro-murder.
But he seems to have taken this ideology with him into the office.
And the other day he says it's, quote, disgusting to claim there's a two-tier justice system in the UK.
That's not a refutation.
To say you are disgusting me by accusing me of being double-standard, that's not a refutation.
That's an emotional reaction.
That's an insult.
That's like that's an empty insult.
He's saying how he feels when he hears it.
But I don't think he can deny it.
And I think in the days ahead, we'll see that even more clearly.
But I think one of the reasons there's a two-tier system is because the demographics.
I saw the other day, sorry, yesterday, a Labour cabinet minister, cabinet secretary, who was asked by a journalist to, you know, how can you abide this?
And she started by saying, well, the Israeli embassy is quite concerned.
And instead of talking about Bob Villen and Kneecap, he immediately launches into a tirade against Israel.
Instead of, I mean, and then I learned a little more about this MP.
He won his riding by just 500 votes.
And the second place candidate was not a Tory or a reformer.
It was an independent Muslim candidate.
There are five candidates in the British parliament who are not with any normal party.
They ran basically on a lend Gaza your vote campaign.
Anyway, before I explain more of that, take a look at this MP, his shocking reaction when asked to justify anti-Semitism in the UK.
And then when you learn that he only squeaked in by 500 votes against an avowedly Islamist candidate, it all makes sense.
Here, take a look at that.
The Israeli embassy says what happened at Glastonbury raises questions about the glorification of violence.
Do you agree?
I think that is a challenge, and that's why I don't think anyone should be cheering on.
I'd also say to the Israeli embassy: get your own house in order.
What happened in the West Bank this week by Israeli settler terrorists needs to not only be condemned, it needs to be acted upon.
And Israel cannot continue to look the other way while its own people are carrying out unwanted acts of terrorism and violence.
They wouldn't tolerate it rightly against their own citizens.
Their citizens are doing it to Palestinians, and it's got to stop.
So I think what's going on is demographics.
And we have that in Canada too, not as pronounced.
Melanie Jolie, our former foreign minister, explained her politics on the Middle East by just saying, look at the demographics in my writing.
And I think every day in the UK, a thousand more people cross over in dinghies.
And I don't know how many of them are anti-Semitic, violent, pro-terrorists.
Is it 100 out of the thousand?
Or is it 900 out of the thousand?
We don't know because they don't often say who they really are.
They often dump their documents in the sea.
Let me ask about that.
Keir Starmer, the British prime minister, in reaction to some reform UK wins recently, gave a speech where he said, We're becoming a nation of strangers.
We don't know each other, too many boats.
It was quite a bold speech.
I thought he's not going to do anything.
And just in the last week, he's reversed course.
He's apologized for saying, for giving that speech, which I thought was actually a beautiful speech.
I didn't believe he meant it.
But he apologized for saying the UK is now a nation of strangers, which it absolutely is, and which Canada now is too.
Okay.
Well, there are two silver linings in the multicultural card in Britain at the moment.
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The Oversom window has shifted so far to the right that you could, well, You can now discuss anything.
Even talking about, even talking about the forced repatriation of migrants, you can talk about openly these days.
The buzzword is re-emigration.
And also, the other silver line in the cloud is: if there was a general election tomorrow, the Reform Party will have a clear majority.
Nigel Farage will be prime minister and he'll have a working majority and he can pass as many laws as he likes.
And I think he's also got the Great Repeal Act underway, which means say he'll be reversing most of the legislation that Tony Blair brought in so ruinously since 1997.
So, you know, we've got to put up this with other full years of flaming Keir Starmer.
But, you know, I really can't see Keir Starmer improving.
Many people think that Keir Starmer will be gone inside a year.
And it's about flaming time as well.
I'm choosing my words very carefully in my adjectives at the moment, Ezra.
You know, it's incredible how quickly Keir Starmer has imploded.
And Nigel Farage is a major research.
And he keeps winning these little by-elections or town councils.
I was up there in Runcorn and Hellsby when he won that important by-election.
And I brought back with me some of his campaign literature just to refer to it.
And his number one line was freeze immigration, stop the boats.
Like it couldn't be clearer.
And I really think that's where most Brits are.
And I think that is what sets Nigel Farage apart from, let's say, Canada's Conservative leader, Pierre Polyev, who isn't willing to say freeze immigration.
Trump said it plus plus plus.
Mass repatriation.
He used the word remigration the other day.
I've never seen Trump, I've never seen any world leader use the word remigration.
Maybe they do in Sweden and Denmark.
I understand they're paying people to go home.
Here's my question for you.
I like Nigel Farage, and I think he's the only guy who can do it.
And the other day he said, if I fail, beware of what comes after me, which is his way of saying, look, I'm trying to work within the system.
I'm trying to keep upset people positive and constructive.
And we're going through your system.
But if you stop me, what comes after me will be much rougher.
And I think he's right.
My one worry about Nigel, I think he's got the personality to win.
He's got total name recognition in the UK.
He's got some victories under his belt.
First of all, Brexit.
Second of all, his battle against the banks, I thought was wonderful.
But my worry about him is sometimes he's sort of, it's like he gets spooked by things being too right-wing.
And I remember he gave an interview with Steve Edgington of GB News where he said he was not for mass deportations.
Let me just go show you a quick clip of that.
Do you support that mass deportations?
Trump says in America that he wants mass deportations.
We're talking about hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are in Britain at the moment.
Some estimates say the number could even be in a million plus.
So do you support deporting all of those people?
It's impossible to do.
Literally impossible to do.
But do we have to begin the process?
Yes.
Look, we're told that we can't send people back to Afghanistan, right?
That's impossible.
Well, Germany, two weeks ago, did.
Germany sent a plane load of people back to Afghanistan.
If the Germans can do it, I'm certainly sure we can.
But if the Americans can do it, for example, in America, they are able to deport a lot of people.
I know they haven't under this administration, but Trump was able to.
It's not totally impossible, is it?
I mean, it should be an ambition, at least.
Is it your ambition?
The mass deportations in America really happened under Eisenhower, where back in the 50s, he deported over a million people who'd come to America illegally.
For us, at the moment, it's a political impossibility.
But is it your ambition?
No.
No, I'm not going to get dragged down the route of mass deportations or anything like that.
I think it's pretty clear there are a lot of people that have come who should not be given leave to remain.
It's a heck of a job.
It's a heck of a job.
I just think with the backlogs, with all the problems we've got, we've got to go down the Tony Abbott route.
The Australian Prime Minister will stop this.
We've absolutely got to be clear.
We won't accept this.
We're not going to put people in hotels.
We have to start somewhere.
Now, he's since firmed up on that.
But, you know, Reform UK is really one guy.
It doesn't, they've got, I know they've got half a dozen MPs now, but they've also kicked out people.
I mean, they have a lot of personnel turnover, and it really is a one-man show.
And in a way, that's a strength because Nigel Farage is an outstanding political communicator, perhaps the best in the UK.
But on the other hand, it means he's susceptible.
The party's susceptible to his whims.
Maybe next week he'll be more pro-Islam if he has a big Muslim donor, which he recently got.
He did want to say that he wanted to reach an agreement with his political Islam in Britain.
Can you say that again?
I'm sorry.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
He did say he wanted to come to understanding with political Islam in Britain.
Yeah, and I don't know what that means.
I mean, there are British people.
You're going to meet them halfway, you know, and understand where they're coming from and address their concerns.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, if you're a British citizen, you have the right to be heard.
And that's the thing.
When you let people into your country and when you naturalize them, they do have the right to vote and they have the right to run.
And when they make up 40, 50% of a district, don't be shocked if they have a pro-Gaza political party because these folks are not assimilating.
This is all happening at once.
You've got mass immigration, largely from Muslim countries.
You have people finally speaking out about rape gangs that were disproportionately migrants and frankly, Muslims.
You have censorship being brought in to stop it, but people seek through it.
And I think that's one of the reasons why Elon Musk is so important.
And the U.S. State Department, they don't seem to be collapsing in the face of European demands for censorship.
I think there's going to be a showdown, David.
You've got Trump, Elon Musk, Marco Rubio, JD Vance saying we want freedom for social media users around the world if they use our American platforms.
Then you've got Kier Starmer, the EU, saying, no, no, that's not the European way.
I think a big free speech showdown is coming because free speech is the tool that'll give you Maureen Le Pen, Feert Wilders, Victor Orban.
I think free speech is the only tool that the nationalist populist right needs to win.
Well, that's the whole point.
Whether it's social media or anywhere else, we're winning, hands down.
We've got the arguments.
The thing about the left is they're always in their echo chamber and their ivory towers, contemplating their navels.
And when it comes to arguing with their case and their point and their manifesto, they're completely lost.
But I'll just pick you up on Nigel Farage if I can.
I think Nigel Farah has worked out he has the working class and middle class right-wing vote in his pocket.
What I think Nigel Farage is doing now is trying to appeal to the more socialist left-leading people, the Social Democrats and the old-time Labour Party.
I think that's his target audience here at the moment, and maybe a few Conservatives as well.
So, you know, I was very disappointed, very disappointed when he said he wouldn't be looking at deporting illegal migrants.
He again has walked that back and said, well, perhaps we will, you know, whatever.
Because Rupert Lowe stuck the boot in and he got loads and loads of clicks and views for his point on saying that one.
But I trust Nigel Nigel Farage's instinct.
I think he's on the right track.
And I just think at the moment he's trying to soften his stance.
He's trying to make himself soft and cuddly to women.
The lady who won the runcorn by-election, Sarah Potty, you don't see her off the tele.
She is the go-to Reform Party spokesman at the moment.
So, no, I think he's looking, he doesn't want to fight the horses.
He doesn't want to upset the apple card.
So I think he's doing particularly well on that.
You know, it's very interesting to me to see a few MPs from a variety of parties speaking out.
Rupert Lowe, you mentioned, was with Reform.
He's no longer in Reform, but he's in Parliament.
He's speaking very boldly.
He's got this independent inquiry.
I just forgot the name of the Conservative Party.
He challenged the leadership.
He didn't beat Kemi Badenock.
Robert Jenrick?
Robert Jenrick?
That's right.
And he's just on social media making these very powerful videos.
I mean, he's coming out with one a week.
It's sort of the same thing Pierre Polyev did in Canada, which is having fairly meaty videos direct to social media.
He's not even talking to the press.
Here, let me throw one on the screen to take a look.
I think this guy's really good.
I sort of wish he had won the Conservative leadership.
Take a look.
Let me tell you something about the housing crisis that nobody ever talks about.
If you live here in London, you're paying an estimated £216 in rent every single month due to the demand from immigration since 2001.
That's two and a half grand every year.
Across England, you're paying £132 extra every month.
This is according to first of its kind research from onward, which has shown the link between mass migration and our housing crisis.
Just think of what you could do with that kind of money.
The truth is we'll never be able to build our way out of the housing crisis if demand for immigration stays this high.
In 2022 alone, we'd have needed to build 515,000 new homes just to keep up with new arrivals.
Look, I am as pro-housing as anyone, but that is just not possible.
Limited high-skilled migration is a good thing for young people, but we've seen for far too long mass unskilled migration, putting pressure on public services at once.
The truth is, that makes young people poorer and homeownership unobtainable.
Uncontrolled migration isn't working for anyone in this country, and it's time we put a stop to it.
So, the interesting thing is that these folks are allowed to do this.
Jenrick, as you say, his leader, Kemi Badenock, is tolerating this.
I think it's because they see they had 14 years to fix a problem.
They didn't.
People don't trust them.
Now that the Conservatives look like they're in third place.
But I like what they're at least saying now in their impotence and opposition.
Oh, okay.
Well, I could exclusively reveal to Repl News.
I had this off-the-record conversation, funnily enough, last week, actually.
And I was chatting to a special advisor.
Better not be someone quite senior.
And I said, had you guys seen the lights?
Are you like Saul on the road to Damascus?
The blinding lights come out.
You realize that it's wasted 14 years.
You've got to apologise for it.
And are you genuine in looking to mend your ways and improve the policy and implement the policies that we all want?
Now, the Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Philpers has definitely caught the eye.
Now, he's been particularly good on immigration.
Example, when it comes to your permanent residency after being here five years.
He's he's suggesting that we adopt the Danish model whereby they work out how much you take your benefits, how much you paid it paid in tax, and if you could and if you cost the country money, you don't get your resident residency and you have to leave.
Um, but yeah, Robert Jenrick has been, you know, he's always been very good.
Now i've always, always got the impression with, with uh, Robert Generic was always once considered to be sort of the one nation tally wet, i.e on the left of the party.
He could be appeasing.
He could be appeasing uh, at the time, David Cameron, who was at the prime minister um, but I think I think most people are quite, quite willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Uh, he became immigration minister um uh um, uh for a couple of years and he saw what a complete and utter mess I think was under I think it was under Rishi Sunak.
Um became an immigration minister and he saw what a mess it was.
He saw you know how how, how our system was being abused.
He saw, um that the civil service were complicit in, in maximizing the number of people, of people that uh come over here and also the civil service, blocking any reform or any new laws.
But when it when it came to the civil service, i'm going to give Robert Jenrick the benefit of the doubt and say that he he's genuine.
Um, they also think, if there's no improvement in the polls um, I think the next set of major elections are may next year uh, the local elections.
And if the Conservative Party does poly poorly there uh, it's believed that Key Baylock's on is on her way out.
The major problem you have with the Conservative Party um, in this country is uh, it's ruled by CCHQ Conservative Central Headquarters, and these, these are the people that have managed to chosen all these wet candidates, we sort of sort of liberal Democrat type candidates, and they were not really true conservatives.
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Um, there's a couple of guys who are thought to have uh, a disproportionate amount of influence over, you know, over the party, even when Rishi Sunak was prime minister.
It is also believed um what what, what led to the demise of this trust?
Wasn't this so-called peak in bond markets?
Um, i.e.
You know the price the government has to pay back on interest.
In fact, it's now higher under under Rachel Reeza Kirstan than it was under this trust.
But because she wasn't a globalist and wasn't wasn't a swamp or a blob type person um, they deliberately went out to uh to get her fired.
This, this is really is a real conspiracy.
Um, and she's nearly up a set.
Uh, this trust has nearly said enough.
Um uh, you know, in public, you know, when she's been doing interviews she puts it a lot more softly than me, but you get an overwhelming impression um and yes, it was Andrew Bailey, the BANK OF England, who really sits her up the most.
Less name and shame.
Yeah, I want to close by uh quoting Pier Polyev, who just uh, over the weekend, made a tweet that he, Pierre Polyev, even six months ago, would never have had the courage to say.
Let me read it to you in full, we need massive and immediate reduction In incoming international students, we do not have housing, jobs, and health care.
Yet the Carney Liberals continue with another half million students this year.
Immigration levels must be cut to bring down population while we focus on jobs, homes, and healthcare for Canadians.
Now, that's good as far as it goes, but it doesn't talk about half a million temporary foreign workers, hundreds of thousands of fake refugees, and then half a million, quote, normal migrants.
There's two million people coming into our country every year, half the population of the UK, but we actually have more migrants than they do.
But the firmness of this tweet, if this is how Pierre Polyev had been talking during the last election, he would have been able to change the subject from the official regime media, which wanted to say only Mark Carney can defeat the evil Donald Trump and save us.
So he would have switched off that Trump channel and onto turf where the Liberals couldn't match him.
The fact that Kier Starmer had to walk back his Nation of Strangers comment shows that the Liberal Party is so beholden to immigration now it can't follow conservatives there.
So I think Pierre Polyev, if he learns from the UK, if he learns from Geert Wilderss and Viktor Orban, and he learns from the success stories, he might win.
That's my last thought.
Last word to you, David.
Well, it is such a shame for the Canadian people Pierre wasn't elected.
I'm just half like criticized Trump, but he did not put his foot in it, didn't he?
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Yeah.
Yeah, I was so just like, because he was so far ahead, so far ahead of the polls, wasn't he?
Yeah, 20 years ago.
Yeah, I know.
So, you know, regime change, party change in Canada was totally desperate.
I read that since Carney's come to power, 800,000 new people have arrived in Canada.
That's what I read myself.
That's true.
That's shocking and true.
Well, listen, David, thanks for being such a good sport and chatting with us.
And I love the UK.
I love Ireland.
I love learning from these places.
I love the history.
And what you're going through now, I'm trying to understand how it might apply to our country.
So hopefully we can learn from your painful lessons, though I think we're now the masters in painful lessons.
And hopefully we can fix it.
Great to see you, my friend.
And you, pleasure, as always.
All right.
There he is.
David Atherdon, freelance journalist, pundit, and all-around good egg.
That's our show for the day.
I hope you've enjoyed Canada Day.
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