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May 13, 2025 - Rebel News
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EZRA LEVANT | Expect dirty tricks as Alberta separation referendum heats up

Ezra Levant warns Alberta’s May 12th referendum could face "dirty tricks"—fake symbols, defamation campaigns—from federal Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, and legacy media like Post Media. With 177,000 signatures needed (10% of last election’s voters), he predicts success but questions Danielle Smith’s commitment after her 2026 panel announcement excludes initial separation. Ottawa residents and Calgary skeptics cite economic risks, treaty obligations, and U.S. relations as barriers, comparing Alberta to Quebec’s past struggles. Levant frames the vote as a high-stakes test of federal fairness amid eco-tariffs and pipeline blockades, asking if separatism is the answer to perceived mistreatment. [Automatically generated summary]

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Tonight, the Alberta separatism referendum has a proposed question.
It's May 12th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Hi, everybody.
Ezra here in Edmonton.
You can see the shadow of the Russian Orthodox Church behind me in the city center of Edmonton.
I'm here for some town hall meetings.
I'll tell you about those a little bit later.
But while I'm in Alberta, I want to talk to you a little bit about what's cooking here.
I remember reading Alberta's laws for citizen recall and referendums.
I read them during the COVID pandemic because I wanted to look into the possibility of recalling the politicians who were burning down our civil liberties with their junk science and conspiracy theories, rebanding a bad flu as a zombie apocalypse.
The amount of damage they did with their lockdowns will never be fully known.
We can estimate the financial cost, but we'll never know the full human cost, the cultural cost.
You know, I was reading something today that the Mongols invaded what's now called Iraq, called Mesopotamia in ancient days.
They invaded it almost 800 years ago.
Hulagu Khan sacked Baghdad in the year 1258, massacred hundreds of thousands of people, destroyed everything he could find.
And one historian proposed that to this day, agriculture in Iraq has not yet recovered from what was done 800 years ago by the Mongols.
I thought about it and I thought, you know, he's probably right.
I suppose it would be like destroying every dam in North America, every irrigation canal, every railroad, every bridge.
Some of it truly would never be repaired.
I think what was done to our society and our humanity, at least in the foolish West, will still reverberate in centuries.
I mean, just look at what happened to the fertility rate, to the mental health crisis, to the drug crisis, to our common understanding of civil liberties, to our confidence in our institutions.
Anyways, I'm just musing and meandering.
But yeah, it's why I looked into the recall and referendum laws in Alberta, because I was looking at the possibility of using those laws for their purposes, which is to recall, that is to remove atrocious legislators, to force special by-elections.
But what I quickly found out back then, and I reported it at the time, was that the numbers of signatures required to start a recall process was impossible.
It was deliberately set so high that it could never be done.
It was deceptive.
It was trickery, wasn't it?
To pretend that the Alberta government was democratic and populist, to pretend that it cared about the little people and direct democracy, but to insult democracy and populism by making it a false promise, a trick.
Jason Kenney did that as premier, and to their discredit, so did his cabinet.
But what he did, and Shirley didn't realize at the time, was he put in place the processes anyways.
So the law is there.
So along came Danielle Smith a few days ago, and she simply revised the numbers to make it a challenge, but not an impossibility.
So the process was put and put in place by Kenney.
177,000 signatures are what's needed for referendum.
That's 10% of the 1.77 million people who voted last time.
It has to be collected in 120 days.
I think that can be done.
It's an interesting process.
I won't bore you with the technical details, but different groups can propose different questions.
It's actually a bit nerve-wracking because it's a free-for-all.
The wording is set by the people.
And the first group out of the gate that seems to be organized is the Alberta Prosperity Project.
Here's their proposed wording that they just announced.
We're there.
We could call for that petition right now.
But very clearly, we want to win the referendum.
It's not just winning the petition.
So over time, we will make an internal decision at the level of the board of directors as to when we will submit the petition question to collect the signatures.
At that point, we feel as though we're going to be very close, if not at the point of winning the referendum.
That's actually pretty clear into the point, which is what's required by the Clarity Act in the Supreme Court of Canada.
I think they're doing something interesting.
They're sort of pre-signing a lot of people up so that when the official clock is started for the 120 days, they have a banked number of people who are ready to sign to get a head start.
I'm probably not describing it properly, but they're really trying to be strategic about it.
I think that's going to happen.
I think they're going to get their 177,000 signatures, probably 200,000 or more, just to be safe.
But I think there's going to be problems, or if you prefer challenges.
I mentioned on the show the other day the massive defamation you're about to see, total deplatforming of anyone of any public stature or standing who dares to weigh in on the side of Alberta.
And by that, I don't necessarily even mean of Alberta separatism, but even people who think the referendum itself is a good idea, or those who think Alberta could use it as a bargaining chip, sort of the good cop, bad cop thing that Quebec has had for two generations with their separatist referendums.
I mean, you can already see what they're trying to do to Danielle Smith just for allowing the referendum.
She's not even promoting the yes vote.
She's essentially said she'll vote no, but she's still being smeared as a traitor nonetheless, even though it's Quebec's precedent, Ottawa's Clarity Act, and the Supreme Court's blessing.
Speaking of Jason Kenney, I see that he is once again calling people who disagree with him, in this case, people who support a referendum.
Even in his own former party, the High Conservative Party, he's calling them crackbots.
That's the language he used during COVID when he turned against the people also, started jailing pastors.
It's not seemly.
As always, he seems more interested in what Ottawa says than what Albertans say.
He's a pick-me Westerner trying to ingratiate himself with the Laurentian elite.
They'll always hate him, but he keeps trying.
I don't know who his client is.
That's an important question to ask because he's in the private sector now.
Look, I understand wanting to be part of Canada.
That's the whole Reform Party ethos the West wants in.
I've been part of that same movement for 35 years, but don't sell out your own people with the acceptance of some Ottawa politicians and journalists.
Now, there's going to be a lot of trickery.
I'm really worried about that.
Remember the 90 or so fake candidates who registered to run against Pierre Polyev in his Nepean Carlton writing?
Expect a lot of that kind of trickery.
Lots of false flag operations.
Do you know what I mean by that?
Literally, it could be a flag, like the fake.
Nazi swastika that someone took a picture of at the trucker convoy, but no one who was there actually saw it.
It was fake.
It was just used to discredit the movement.
Just like the fake lapel buttons that the Liberal Party dirty tricksters spread around at a conservative convention this spring, they were trying to smear Pierre Polyev, even though it was the Liberal Party who made the buttons.
Expect a lot more of that.
Times 100, and not just from the Liberals.
I mean, remember how Doug Ford, who calls himself a conservative, kept undermining Pierre Polyev during the federal campaign?
He and his surrogates probably attacked Polyev five times during the campaign, and they continue to do so.
Look for a lot of that.
And in fact, I'm certain that Pierre Polyev himself will at least bar his MPs and staff from supporting independence in the referendum.
I mean, it makes sense.
He is a federalist and the conservatives are a federalist party.
But realize what that means.
The federal liberals and the federal conservatives will be against this referendum.
The provincial NDP opposition will be, of course.
The provincial United Conservative Party will be neutral as a party.
But I imagine individual MLAs are free to join one side or the other.
Every legacy media outlet, there might be one or two journalists at the Calgary and Edmonton Daily newspapers who are permitted to be neutral towards the referendum, or at least fair.
But I'm worried that the newspaper company itself, Post Media, will most likely be officially against it.
That decision will be made in Toronto or perhaps their New Jersey headquarters.
They own the Calgary Herald, Calgary Sun, Edmonton Journal, Edmonton Sun.
It'll be interesting to see how much freedom their reporters will still have.
Same with the local talk radio stations.
But everything else, everything based in Toronto will be on the war path.
Already are CBC, CPB, Global Mail, Toronto Star, just to name a few, a few.
You'll have some independent media that are supportive, like the Western Standard comes to mind, and I like them, but they still don't have the reach of those old media.
Get ready for more interference from foreign entities than you've ever seen in your life.
I mean, don't be surprised if other Canadian governments interfere with massive campaigns, both official and unofficial.
I mean, Mark Carney's feds, the Ontario Tories, of course, Quebec, they wouldn't want their milk cow to leave the country before they're done milking it, would they?
But I'm talking about other countries, too.
Who wants to keep the oil sands undeveloped?
Well, who would want it to stay under Mark Carney and Stephen Legault's governorship?
Well, most of OPEC and Russia, I imagine.
I don't know where China would stand on the question.
I don't know where the U.S. would either.
On the one hand, they might think that Alberta independence would be a stepping stone to joining the U.S., and they'd want that oil.
But then again, maybe they don't want that oil.
Maybe it's a competitor to U.S. domestic oil and gas.
It's tough to say that that oil is worth trillions.
And as Alberta goes, probably Saskatchewan goes a year or two later, and then other provinces might go too.
The stakes really couldn't be any higher.
And so expect the dirty tricks to match it.
By the way, that's what I'm doing out west tonight.
It's our town hall meeting in Edmonton.
And Wednesday night is our town hall meeting in Calgary.
Both events have sold out about 800 tickets altogether.
People want to talk about this.
By the way, if you want to know where I stand, I stand against Ottawa's war on Alberta.
I stand Against Mark Carney and against Stephen Gilbo and the other eco-extremists who want to put eco-tariffs on Alberta to kill its jobs.
You see how he used the word tariffs there?
Or trade barriers like blocking pipelines.
But isn't that what they are?
What was a carbon tax other than a tariff on Alberta oil?
All this hopping and puffing about Trump's tariffs in Ontario.
I mean, fair enough.
I agree.
Don't punish Ontario.
But isn't that exactly what the feds have been doing to Alberta for 45 years and promise to continue to do?
So yeah, what's that phrase, elbows up?
Team Canada, eliminating internal trade barriers.
None of it was true.
Don't think Alberta doesn't know this.
Danielle Smith is clever.
She says she wants to negotiate with Carney a better deal for Alberta.
If she gets a better deal, the referendum will probably fail.
But if she doesn't, it just might succeed.
stay with us for more.
It's almost time for me to go to the town hall meeting here in Edmonton, and I'll be in Calgary for the same thing on Wednesday.
Sold out events, about 800 people coming altogether.
That's the room capacity.
We probably could have sold twice as many tickets.
I want to leave you with two interesting videos.
The first by Alexa Lavoie, who did Man on the Street interviews in Ottawa, where she asked people about Alberta's concerns, and some streets from Calgary done by Sid, who was asking about the sovereignty referendum.
Here's the videos.
We'll see you tomorrow.
I'm Alexander Bois for Rebel News, reporting from Ottawa.
Today, I'm here primarily to speak with members of the Conservative Party who are gathering for their caucus meeting.
But while I'm here in the capital, I took the opportunity to engage with locals on an issue that's gaining serious momentum across the country: the rise of separatist movement in Western Canada.
Across Alberta, Saskatchewan, and parts of British Columbia, many Canadians are expressing deep frustration with the federal government.
A frustration that, for some, has turned into a call for separation.
This is not new, but the sentiment has been reignited and some say intensified since Mark Carney's recent election.
Many in the West feel their voices are not being heard in Ottawa and that their provinces are being treated unfairly, particularly when it comes to federal transfers and equalization payments.
I asked people here in Ottawa whether they are concerned about this growing divide and what they think of recent comments by Alberta Premier Danielle Smith.
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The federal government must provide to Alberta the same per capita federal transfers and equalization as is received by the other three largest provinces, Quebec, Ontario, and British Columbia.
We have no issue with Alberta continuing to subsidize smaller provinces with their needs.
But there is no excuse for such large and powerful economies like Ontario, Quebec, BC, or Alberta to be subsidizing one another.
That was never the intent of equalization and it needs to end.
Premier Smith recently stated that Alberta is not asking for special treatment, only fairness.
She said the federal government must provide to Alberta the same per capita federal transfers and equalization as is received by the other three largest provinces, Quebec, Ontario, and British Columbia.
It's a message that's resonating in the West, but is it being taken seriously in the East?
That's the question many are now asking.
Let's hear now from the people in the street in Ottawa.
Canada is stronger when we work together.
As an Albertan, I firmly believe that.
You can always ask a question, but I know what I would respond clearly.
How do you feel about the separatist movement that is growing in the West?
I think under the existing conditions that we live with the government that's appointed to us, I think everybody's considering their options and what we have and where we're going for sure.
Well, I think it's unfortunate that they had to be put in that position.
However, I understand if they would want to do it.
It's quite disappointing how the election went and it's quite troubling.
So I support it if that's what the people are going to vote for.
And it ends up bullshit.
For which reason?
Canada is stronger or united.
Oh my gosh.
I certainly hope that doesn't happen.
Any concern?
That is a concern.
It's a big concern.
I mean, a lot of money comes out of there.
We'll find it very hard to afford stuff.
Well, it's almost like they're trying to relate Quebec.
My dad used to joke, I'm out of Quebecois, so we say when they separate, you got to go back.
But I mean, they'll lose all the rights and all the great stuff that Canada offers, right?
So that could be kind of, I think that's where the natives want to stay.
So yeah, it wouldn't be the smartest thing, in my opinion.
Well, I don't think it's very useful, practical, and I'm not quite sure what motivates it because the factors that have affected the West, particularly in petroleum, date back to the mid-10s where Saudi Arabia expanded, production prices fell, investment fell.
And then the future for petrol is a little bit ambiguous at this time.
Well, I'm from the West Coast, and I think that you'll find that it's very specific to Alberta.
We're from Lower Mainland of BC, and nobody is of that mind.
I think that we're pretty happy to be Canadians and wouldn't want to give that up.
I don't think it's actually going to take off, but Canada should stick together.
Alberta will just end up a state otherwise.
I think that this separatist movement is not happening for nothing.
I think that the elections, basically, the federal elections, are basically centered on Ontario and Quebec.
And the West is forgotten most of the time.
And if they want, if they have the feeling like, you know, in Quebec we had that same sentiment and we figured like we're left out, whatever, this sentiment is probably getting weaker and weaker all the time.
I don't know if I should be happy.
I'm just glad actually that the Westerners are expressing themselves.
If there's a majority that wants to separate, why not?
Is that going to, you know, maybe wake certain people up in Ontario, Quebec, and especially in Ottawa?
I hope so.
I would like Canada to stay united, but if it has to come to that, then why not?
I'm not a fan of it.
I think that we're definitely more unified as a country working together.
I do think there are some issues that do need to be addressed.
I think that resources could be more equally shared.
I'm for it.
Yeah?
Yeah.
For which reason?
Oil and gas pipelines, numerous other things.
The Liberal Party will reach to bring together the West and the East together because there is a growing separatist movement right now.
So do you know how the Liberal Party will achieve that to bring all people together unite?
We know that Alberta have contributed a lot to equalization payment and we know that in Quebec we receive a lot but we don't extract our natural resources.
We are not doing kind of our share.
But yesterday Danielle Smith said she want fairness in equalization payment.
What are your thoughts?
Oh yeah it should be everything should be fair.
We should be actually doing our own resource and the people of Canada we should be looking after it and we should be the ones that's selling it not other countries coming in and digging it up.
Yeah how do you want fairness with 30% of the people who want separating?
70% won't be fair if you are separating.
That's that's not right.
Because so much of the money out of Alberta is going to the east and we can't put a pipeline through Quebec.
That's a problem.
Well I know they were talking about they're comparing it to Quebec and Ontario how they get the payments and I kind of understand where she's come from if you're going to do that for all the other bigger provinces and Alberta has been you know helping Canada out a lot so they should deserve to get help as well.
So just got to stick and you got to help everybody.
You know it's one big family so you got to help everybody together.
I think the recent stuff with Trump has kind of brought Canada together so I'm hoping that you know just a little bit of dialogue and everything should be okay.
Absolutely.
She's the voice of the people and I think it's very admirable that she stands behind the people.
I agree with that for sure.
I think Danielle's a champion.
I call her supermodel online.
Finally a voice for the Canadian people.
That makes sense.
Well I'm not sure she can do that.
First of all it's the equalization payments are made by Ottawa.
They're from the Ottawa taxes that has nothing to do with Alberta giving checks to people.
I have the same feeling as a citizen.
You know like in Gathno I pay a lot of taxes.
I pay a lot of income taxes like to Quebec to Ottawa whatever to get what in return?
You know I don't have kids I don't you know so I don't get the feeling that I'm getting much in return for the huge amount of taxes and income tax that I pay.
I think that everyone all the provinces should pay the equal amount so if one's getting more maybe they should have a little less because everyone should have the same payment equal because I mean we're all feeding into Canada and it costs too much to run Quebec so they should start removing some of their costs meaning their own CRA and their own different groups you know so if they were to eliminate those it would cost less.
We should all be the same.
Yeah I think she's a very silly unserious person.
She's off doing Prague or U things for the states and on our tax dollars.
She spent 10 grand going to Florida of Alberta's money.
I don't think she's serious.
I don't think we should be taking her serious.
Same if Quebec example are not willing to build pipeline and they are not extracting their natural resources.
I'm less familiar with the Quebec issue.
It hasn't been in the news right now.
I think all of Canada should be sticking together.
I don't know that there's that much.
I mean that's not going to be a provincial thing.
I think that there's different schools of thought.
You know there's people that are very strong about the environment and would make a lot of sacrifices to save the environment, which is fairly legitimate.
But when you get into a time when people are under financial stress, we're much more willing to compromise our values.
And I think we're seeing that.
And I think that the more pressure we get externally, the more we're going to be ready as people to compromise a little bit on the things that in an ideal world we stand up for.
Same if Quebec is doing everything to stop pipeline and not extracting their own natural resources?
I think that's a big problem we've had over the last 10-15 years or even longer.
We haven't been using our natural resources to our benefit.
And if we had been doing it, we wouldn't be in this situation right now.
We'd be way ahead of all our problems we have right now.
We'd be so far ahead.
Like some countries, they're self-sufficient.
There's no reason why Canada shouldn't be self-sufficient with all the natural resources that we have.
You don't have any concern, maybe, that the sovereignty is achieved in the West for Alberta example?
No, no, no, I don't think so.
There's not enough people who want that.
Sidney Fizard for Rebel News here in downtown Calgary, where the talk of the town recently has been separation.
Will Alberta leave Confederation?
Premier Danielle Smith recently introduced changes to our referendum system, allowing citizens to vote on things that matter to them.
And one of those things could be leaving Canada.
After the federal election results, granting the Liberal Party another term in government, many in Alberta have had enough and are seriously considering moves towards separation.
That's exactly why we hit the streets today to see what Calgarians think about this referendum change and whether or not it's something that might actually come to fruition.
Our government will appoint, and I will chair, the Alberta Next Panel.
This panel will be composed of some of our best and brightest judicial, academic, and economic minds to join with me in a series of in-person and online town halls to discuss Alberta's future in Canada.
Premier Smith put out an address to Albertans and she's also made changes to the referendums.
I assume you've heard about this.
What do you make of these changes?
I think that it's obvious her intentions.
She can't openly say that she's for segregation.
That would cause discourse and she's too smart for that.
But what she can do is pass a bill like that or whatever the term for it is, just to make it known, you know, to her not followers, but to her citizens that like she's not just going to pass the opportunity up.
If she knows that if the majority of us want to separate from Canada, whether that's a sovereign nation or maybe that's part of the United States, I'm not sure.
She knows that if 55% of us want to, it's going to happen.
She's not going to sweep an option like that under the rug.
She's a joke.
That's all I have to say, Baldur.
Whatever.
Danielle Smith is just spewing garbage, shut her own mouth a lot of times.
I think it just nobody wants it.
I don't know.
She's trying to force feed it down our throat, I think.
I've been following that, especially in Alberta.
I'm from Ontario, and I think politically that's a very strong move on Danielle's part.
It reminds me of referendums in Quebec.
I'm hoping that Alberta chooses not to leave Canada because we are stronger as a nation, all provinces, all territories.
My fellow Albertans, today I wish to speak to you about the future of Alberta and Canada.
We don't ask for special treatment or handouts.
We just want to be free.
I agree on like just giving everyone a vote, that aspect of it.
The separation aspect of it, I don't know.
I feel like stronger united than against.
I don't know.
Separation might lead to a lot of downfall, a lot of things people aren't ready for yet.
So I think pushing for it too quickly and then not knowing what comes in the end, a lot of people might regret it.
So I don't know.
I feel like one step at a time.
Then it looks like Western provinces a little bit abandoned by Eastern provinces and by federal government is a good idea, but it looks like very challenging because of Aboriginal people treaty and other legal battle.
But I think I can't judge them.
I think they have to do this because Ottawa, always prime ministers are coming from the east.
And then our oil and resources, they are not able to use it.
So I think good idea.
It can be tried anyway.
Well, I'm from BC, but I have family here.
So I have a lot of sympathy for how Ottawa has treated Alberta miserably for, I guess, 10 years.
And so I think what she's done is say that it's important that Alberta's issues get good attention and they've been highly not just ignored but trampled on.
And so I think that she's setting it out like it's important to pay attention to Alberta issues.
And so I think she's doing a really, really good job actually.
I will soon appoint a special negotiating team to represent our province in negotiations with the federal government on the following reforms requested by our province.
We hope this will result in a binding agreement that Albertans can have confidence in.
Call it an Alberta Accord, if you will.
She's a nut bar.
She bailed on us once.
I don't trust her.
She'll just bail again when it gets tough.
When the arguments get heated, she'll bail.
I don't trust her.
She's a reporter.
That's it.
Well, I think that's just the foundation of democracy, right?
Quebec has done the same in the past.
It hasn't passed.
But it's important to like actually hear those opinions.
It would be incredibly shocking, obviously, if that passed.
But holding the referendum itself, I think it's just like a symbolic move of like, you feel very passionate about leaving this.
Let's hear you.
Like, if you wanted your voices here, that's what we do in Canada.
We'll give you your vote.
I think that was misleading or misunderstood on how she mentioned that.
You know, like, yes, you can as a province.
We saw it with Quebec.
But I don't think we will.
You know, I think the federal government's actually going to pay a little bit more attention to us out here in the West because we are their resources.
So, you know, like refine the gas and the oil and, you know, get on board or get out.
Everyone's voices could be heard a little bit more and respected, if I'm honest.
Not just necessarily Albertans, but even from the East Coast.
I think that we all should kind of be heard a bit more from the Ontario government.
Danielle Smith, I've supported her for a very long time, even when she was with the Wild Rose.
I've had lunch with her and I was around when she switched to Florence.
A fantastic lady with a lot of smarts.
And right now I don't understand her.
I voted for her to be the Premier of the province of Alberta.
And I don't think I made a mistake.
But yesterday after that address, she's got me wondering about her, you know?
Like, is she for Albertans?
Or, you know, because as far as I'm concerned, I'm on social media between five and six hours a day.
And, you know, a large majority of the people I speak with want to separate from Canada and that live in Alberta.
Proud Canadian Concerned 00:06:05
And she seems to be getting weak and wanting to go the other direction.
And I don't know.
I don't know why.
As most Albertans know, I have repeatedly stated I do not support Alberta separating from Canada.
I personally still have hope that there is a path forward for a strong and sovereign Alberta within a united Canada.
You're excited for a referendum vote.
There's so many different groups involved in this.
There should only be one or they should all get together and one referendum vote and let Danielle Smith be in charge of it because people are out there wondering when's it going to happen and what's going to happen and stuff like that.
One vote, one referendum, not 10 different groups of people trying to make this work because if they don't capitulate with each other, it could be a bigger mess.
So you said you're from Saskatchewan.
Obviously, since Mark Carney's been elected in a little bit before, there's this separation talk that's been going on.
Are you feeling that conversation hitting Saskatchewan?
Of course, well, I can't say for Scott Mo.
I know that he's very conservative and he's kind of friendly with Danielle Smith.
And I'm, by the way, I'm super conservative too.
And I think living in the prairies, we get the major vote.
But I think we've been having lately talks on Alberta separation referendum that's been going on.
And honestly, I wouldn't comment anything on that, but I just think it's a thing, it's an issue.
And that's something that U.S. wants, I would say, because Alberta would be more or less looking for collaboration with Alberta and Saskatchewan and the prairies.
To be clear from the outset, our government will not be putting a vote on separation from Canada on the referendum ballot.
However, if there is a successful citizen-led referendum petition that is able to gather the requisite number of signatures requesting such a question to be put on a referendum, our government will respect the democratic process and include that question on the 2026 provincial referendum ballot as well.
Do you think that Alberta has a good reason to stay in Confederation?
Yes.
What would that be?
The country will fall to bits, actually, because if you, you know, Saskatchewan ago, now BC is standing on its own.
Now the North looks abandoned.
It really is very dangerous if it happens.
I think there's a lot of reasons that Albertans might want to leave Canada.
But again, I'll reiterate, I think it's really important that we stay strong as a nation, work together, the provinces, to develop what the future of Canada will look like.
I would say it's 50-50.
Could be one way or another.
Like in October, in 1960s, what happened?
They chose to be with Canada.
But if really a lot of things and negotiation is done, Alberta may remain with Canada.
Whatever the bad part is, the good part is you got to take the good and the bad and make it work.
I don't think Alberta with whatever, like two, three million people can stand alone as a nation.
I struck out.
Well, don't fix what's not broken, right?
Well, many Albertans would say that, you know, there's a lot of things that are broken.
Oh, yes, definitely there is.
But, you know, with everybody in office, it's getting done.
It's getting sorted out.
I think we'll do all right.
There's been a huge push in the last couple months for intra-provincial collaboration.
And I know from being in BC that Alberta has had the short end of the stick in the past.
And I really believe that in the next couple years, we're going to start seeing the provinces band together.
And I hope that means BC and Alberta.
I travel a lot.
I don't know what an Alberta country passport would get me.
And I wouldn't believe in here to go to the U.S.
So it would be Alberta on its own.
I don't see how that is beneficial to me at this point.
You like those Canadian passport benefits, huh?
Yeah, they open a lot of doors.
The best reason to leave would be to stop relying on people who are like screwing us, really.
I think that the further away we can get from the Crown and the World Economic Forum and anything to do with those sort of systems, the better we're going to make this country.
The more the people can like unite around us, around Canada, around Calgary, not around climate change and around, I mean, for lack of a better idea, DEI, I mean, I hate to say it.
We need to be proud to be Canadian.
We can't be proud because of these things.
This isn't why we're Canadian.
We just are.
Right now, in this time, we all actually need to come together.
And I think that in order to have a united front with the United States right now, I think that Alberta should try and stick close to Canada.
Similar with Quebec, I think we all kind of need to just stay together right now and wait until everything from the U.S. front is sorted out, until we move past that.
I was at Stephen Harper's victory party in 2015.
We weren't even there five minutes and the CBC said, well, don't bother going in there because Trudeau's already won.
Well, that's not possible because as far as I'm concerned, the votes haven't all been counted in Alberta and British Columbia yet.
How could he win already?
And that's what my problem is.
That's not good enough.
Not good enough for me.
It's not good enough for my 13 grandkids and my five children.
It's not sick.
We need to do something.
I hope you liked what they had to say.
Let us know in the comments what you think.
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