AVI YEMINI and Pastor Mark Leach celebrate Australia’s Greens electoral collapse, calling their platform "anti-Israel hatred" and radical Marxism, with Adam Bandt losing his seat. Leach warns Labor’s China alignment and "woke" policies—like gender extremism and open borders—risk societal fragmentation, citing Powell’s 1974 warnings on immigration-driven conflict. He praises Peter Dutton’s conservative stance but criticizes Liberal Party factions for undermining clarity, urging a Menzies/Howard-inspired revival. Their grassroots movement, Never Again Is Now, aims to unite Jews, Christians, libertarians, and everyday Australians against economic decline and cultural erosion over the next three years, while exposing hypocrisy in climate activists and left-wing violence, like police failures with a Hamas-linked attacker. [Automatically generated summary]
Hatred, Environment, and Sensible Politics00:07:09
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Welcome back to the Yuminia Report and what a week it has been.
My goodness.
Did anyone predict it to play out like this?
I don't know.
Look, I can say I predicted half of it to my wife privately.
I wasn't so brave to do it publicly.
However, I think one thing we can all agree on now is we need God's help.
So this week we have Pastor Mark Leach.
Welcome to the show, mate.
How you doing?
I'm great.
Thanks, Arvi.
Look, 100% agree, we need God's help.
I think we need God's help all the time, irrespective of particular election results.
But yeah, and I'm doing well and it's just great to talk to you and talk to your listeners and hope people get something useful out of this.
So how are you reacting to the election result?
How do you see this?
Well, I mean, given that my whole focus for the last 18 months has been how do we combat anti-Semitism and push back the hatred around Australia, I'm extremely happy that the most racist, anti-Semitic and divisive political party who stood on a platform of anti-Israel hatred, that the Greens have not extended,
have not garnered substantial electoral support.
I mean, I'm extremely happy about that, that Australians have rejected that kind of divisiveness and that kind of hatred.
So as we speak, Adam Bant is still, his seat in Melbourne hasn't been.
I think it's gone.
I think he's going to lose it.
Yeah, I think it's from, you know, have you spoken to God?
Has God told you what's no, but I spoke to the ABC and they like to think they're pretty close to God.
So, you know.
What did the ABC tell you?
Well, like you, I've been refreshing the ABC.
I've never refreshed an ABC website as much as I have been today on the election results.
I think he's gone.
And I think that's good for Australia.
I think we want the same centre.
I think the Labour Party, look, I think the Labour Party are now free from the pressure to kind of move further left on a whole bunch of issues on energy, free from the pressure to move left on appeasing jihadists and further to move further left against Israel.
And they can, you know, the Labour Party historically has been a really strong friend of Israel.
Australia's had bipartisan support for Israel since its inception, you know.
And so I'm delighted that that pressure on the hard left, that anti-Semitic, anti-Israel pressure will now be relieved from the Labour Party.
And then we'll see how they govern over the next three years.
If it's just about Israel, the issue of Israel, I don't think Albanese gives me much hope.
Looking at his personal history, he has a long history, essentially being one of the greenies that used to attend these protests.
But I do agree with you that this was an astounding rejection.
Probably good for the greens as well.
To be fair, it's a message for them.
I don't know if i'll learn from it or not hopefully they don't but um, for them it's.
It's a good lesson in like, hey guys, why don't you go back to focusing on getting the environment wrong instead of uh, you know, taking up this due hatred cause that?
No, that everyone's kind of rejecting well anyone, you know it's.
It's interesting when, when you look at who's voting for him, they're getting a lot of the young tick tock audience.
That's who's voting for people that that are learning about uh, the Middle East conflict from 30 second clips that they're getting from uh propaganda, paid propagandists, but they're losing their older, more sensible.
Now is that just a natural reality?
People grow out of socialism and they realize it doesn't work.
But but I think it.
I think it is the, the older, more sensible um, environmentalist that's turning around and going hey, this is not, this is not the greens I signed up for.
Do you think the greens are gonna learn from this or they're gonna double down?
That's a I have.
I, I have absolutely no idea uh, but that won't stop me offering an opinion.
Um yeah, join the club.
That's pretty much what it paid for.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, I think the problem that the greens have is trying to work out how the what they stand for now because, in one sense, they've been so successful, or we all agree that we should care for the environment, like that's no longer a radical proposition and, in fact, Labor have taken over probably all their you know environmental policies, apart from some of their crazy energy policies.
So the greens, when that, in their original you know raison, debt their primary task of championing the environment, everybody's now doing that.
So what are you left with?
Well, an embrace of marks of radical Marxism.
Uh, you know, hating Australia, pulling it down, and hating Israel, like I just don't think that's a great platform to try and win votes on in Australia.
Uh, and I don't know what they're going to do about that.
Um, I hope they just wither away and die.
You know political parties, these minor parties, like the Democrats, you know they come into they, they come up for a while and then they lose their kind of their reason and they they, they drop away.
So i'm I, I sus, i'm hoping that's what'll happen, or they'll get back to caring about koalas.
Now back to Labor.
Labor's obviously got now a huge mandate um and yeah, maybe they'll become a little bit more sensible in their um, in their treatment of Israel, in their wording or, you know, I think the other message not is not just the greens, even within those highly Muslim populated areas that there was a swing to them.
So yeah, I think, I think even uh, in those areas, they were rejected and so they're probably going to be emboldened and empowered to know that they don't have to bend over backwards for the Islamists, because even when the Islamists campaign against them, they're still going to win.
Australians United Against Fragmentation00:15:14
But do you think, on other issues uh, you know, other concerns here within Australia from the Labor Party is, I guess, their bend towards communist China and uh, you know, woke ideologies, other other wokes of you know, the transgender, the radical uh uh uh, gender theories and all this other stuff that they're pushing, their welcome to countries, their self-loathing, everything else um,
are we going to see?
Do you think the Labor Party is going to move away from that, or this is their chance to double down, or do you feel like they were only doing, they're only pushing those agendas really to to please the left of their own party plus um, their alliance with the greens?
I, I think the big task ahead of us as Australia is to recapture our confidence in the Australian project, as it were, in Western civilization, in this extraordinary country that we've managed to build since 1788 built, obviously on um, on a lot of tragedy and and violence against our, the original inhabitants, which is tragic,
but it's the way all nation states really come into being.
But but since then we have built this extraordinary country and I would say over the next 20, 30 years well, actually probably listen, over the next five to ten years the challenges we're going to face as a country are monumental, the demographic decline, that here moving to a post-consumer society, as we have fewer workers and more old people and so people aren't buying stuff.
The rise of AI.
The proliferation of is, of Islamist groups.
The changes geopolitically as the Us withdraws um, what happens in China, in our part of the world, as they face demographic crisis.
And then you know the temptation, we're going to do what every country around the world is doing, which is try to solve our demography by importing lots of people.
So in all of that, how do we bring people into an Australian uh, an Australian-ness that can actually unite us and stop us fragmenting into sectarian politics and identity politics.
So what worries me about labor and more generally, we circle back to my question, because I feel like you just asked my question a lot better in a different way yeah yeah, what worries me is that nobody is thinking about these big issues and nobody is confident enough and that we're all we're.
We're tempt, they're being tempted, as everybody is to play the identity politics, the divide, the conquer, to not think about a much, a better story that can actually unite us.
And I think the challenges around our social cohesion are only going to increase.
We're going to become a largely so.
For example, the thing you didn't mention, Indian migration.
So everyone's like, bring the Indians in right okay well, so what does that mean for Australia how?
Now they play cricket, so our cricket should get better, which would be fantastic.
And and there is an overlap culturally.
But in seasons of great migration, how do we build social cohesion?
And I go back to the Jewish community.
The risk is when societies fragment into identity politics and when we face massive economic stress, as I think we will over the next five to ten years massive, massive turbulence, history shows us we tend to scapegoat the Jews.
Uh, that's what cultures do.
So that worries me if we don't build, find a way to build an Australia that is united uh, around a better narrative um, yeah and so.
So that's.
That's a long answer to your question.
So do you think, do you think, do you think they're going to do something about all that?
Or are they going to fuel it in the long run?
Because when you talk about debt, when you talk about the problems that we're going to face, I dare say the Labour Party is only going to exacerbate all of that by signing us up to plenty more debt by giving away what they call free stuff.
Yeah.
I have no confidence. in Labour left.
I would much rather see Labour right in power.
So, you know, the Labour Party is really two parties, right?
And same as the Liberal general idea.
Yeah, yeah.
So I would rather, I would like to, I'm hoping the voices of kind of fiscal responsibility, economic restraint and prevail in the Labour Party.
And look, the job of Australia, of the opposition, I mean, one thing, the challenge to the Liberal Party is, you know, a government is only as strong as the opposition.
So it's absolutely critical that the Liberal Party get their act together.
And I think if the Liberal Party can articulate a better vision for Australia that will unite us all, that's economically sound, that is courageous and visionary.
And if the and by the way, I'm frustrated with the independent sort of Freedom Party, the guys on the right are also disillusioned ex-libs who, you know, put the major parties last kind of narrative.
We need to bring, we need a movement to hold the government to account.
And so if the Liberal Party, and you've seen that in Victoria, in your state, right?
When there's no credible opposition to government, government becomes profligate, incompetent.
And in the worst case, which I'm not suggesting about Victoria because I don't know enough, but certainly around the rest of the world, governments that aren't held to account by strong opposition inevitably become corrupt and self-serving.
So as Australians, we need a strong opposition.
We need a viable opposition.
And we need some courageous, visionary leadership to unite us around a better story to navigate these difficult times.
So obviously watching mainstream media, I'm sure you're just refreshing the ABC for that tally.
But one thing that I've noticed watching the media since the election on Saturday night is the narrative that the Liberal Party failed, their failure was all because the Liberal Party became too Trumpian.
Yeah.
Do you think that there's any truth to that?
I think there's a bit of truth in the sense that it seemed to me the Trump, the sort of the chaos of the Trump tariffs and backwards and forwards and this the appearing to abandon Ukraine.
I think that freaked a lot of people out in Australia.
And mainstream media and the Labour Party were very quick to associate Dutton with Trump for their own political advantage.
I didn't see a lot of Trumpian thinking in the Liberal Party.
I thought by the end of the campaign, at some point, they seem to adopt, they seem to do the very opposite of Trump, which was to adopt a small target strategy.
We will just, Aussies will be so fed up with elbow and labor, cost of living so bad, housing crisis is so bad.
If we just don't say much, they'll turf them out.
Like Trump was the exact opposite.
Trump was like, man, I'm going to change the whole world.
I'm going to end the war before I get in.
Mate, he has policies and ideas about everything, and he doesn't give a stuff about whether they'll work or not.
He just lets rip.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
I think our politics is a politics of timidity driven by pollsters.
Partly that's a result of compulsory voting.
But I think it's also partly we have a generation of political leaders who actually don't have a vision for Australia that is compelling and can unite us.
They haven't done the work of articulating that and developing that.
And we need that kind of intellectual and cultural leadership going forward.
So in short, you'd say no.
Yeah, sorry, Rob.
You want short answers, do you?
Sorry.
No, no, no.
I like the long answer.
I just want to, because it's a segue to my next question.
So you can see the media already and certain liberal politicians already trying to frame it that way to make sure that the Liberal Party stays, it becomes labor-light.
The last thing they want is a genuine, robust center-right Conservative Party in power.
That's the way I read it.
I read it that the ABC is working overtime to ensure that the lesson learned by the Liberal Party is to go even further left, where it's absolutely ridiculous to argue that Dutton was running on principle.
On most issues, he was running just labor-light.
When they said net zero by 2030, he's like, we'll do it by 2050.
When they talk about immigration, he's like, we'll do a little less than you.
And so there just was no real practical point of difference.
The only ones was really nuclear, which I don't think they sold it very well to Australia.
And, you know, to credit where credit is due, he was very strong in his support for Israel, direct and for Jews in Australia.
But it's not necessarily just like Gaza is not a winning sale for the Greens.
I don't think, I think just Aussies are like more worried about what's happening here.
And the position to take probably is, yeah, we support Israel, but let's focus on Australia.
Let's bring Australia forward.
Having said that, I know that I am meant to be just asking you the questions and I can't help myself and inject my personal view on it.
I did give you a chance.
Let's be fair there.
And I appreciate it enormously.
So what do you think the way back is for the Liberal Party?
Freya is very involved in the Liberal Party.
What do you think the way back for the Liberal Party is?
And I hope it includes Freya as Prime Minister.
Yeah, let's get it out.
Let's launch her campaign now.
Maybe wait.
Maybe wait till people are not mocking the Liberal Party.
Yeah, you should see what they're saying about her on TikTok and social media, man.
People are horrible.
Oh, the internet's a horrible place.
Whatever, whatever.
What's the way back?
Look, I think resisting the idea that there's one simple reason for the poor performance, there were multiple, multiple reasons.
So Freya and her husband Cooper and I and Marga, we sat around for hours yesterday talking about all of this.
And the reality is there's a hundred reasons why something as complex as an election gets lost.
I would say the lesson to be learned is to become again the party of Robert Menzies and John Howard.
So if you said to me, if some Liberal Party power broker came to me and said, Mark, what's your solution?
I'd say, go back to being who you were when you were best for Australia, Robert Menzies, John Howard.
And what was that?
And what was that?
Small government, fiscal responsibility, a courageous vision for the future around the kind of people we were or we want to become, a deep, yeah, you know, it's hard because how would we, how would we reinterpret that for 2024, 2025, or the next 10 years?
A deep sense of what it is to be Australian that, you know, fundamentally we're a Judeo-Christian civilization.
So I think Menzies and Howard were deeply rooted in that tradition and those values.
So conservative in the best sense that, you know, there's a thousand years of English history that have shaped how we see the world.
There's 3,000 years of Jewish history in how to organize society based on the Torah, based around the Ten Commandments.
And I think Menzies and Howard and the best of the conservative tradition honors that, builds on that, unashamedly confident in it.
They're saying limited government, small government, no politics of envy, but a politics of aspiration, courageously addressing the fact that people don't want to have kids because they're scared of the future.
We've got to change that.
Menzies and Howard were optimistic about the future.
So we have to say, as a species, under God, we're capable of extraordinary things.
And the politicians for the last 20 years, particularly under the climate emergency and then COVID, they gained power by making people afraid.
And we're all doom and gloom and everything's cooked and we're all a mess.
But if you trust us, we can see a way through.
You say, no, no, as a species, we're capable of extraordinary innovation and we've made unbelievable progress.
And this civilization, this Judeo-Christian Western civilization is the greatest accomplishment of our species.
And anyone who wants to come to this country has to come to build on that, not to destroy it and not to undermine it and not certainly not to turn it into a slightly wealthier version of the crappy civilization they've come from.
I like that vision.
Do you have any confidence that the Liberal Party is going to go that way?
Yeah, I do.
I do.
You do.
I do.
Tell us.
100%.
I think most people are looking at it now thinking it's the end.
We'll become a one-party system in Australia and the Labour Party is just going to lock in the next this election.
And obviously the next one is going to be hard to come out because it's even harder now.
They've built even more seats.
Yeah.
And look, it could be worse.
I think Labour will continue to import migrants who support them.
But what's the alternative?
I think the alternative is corrupt, inefficient government, not in the first or second term, but unless there's a viable center-right conservative opposition, we're going to be a divided, a deeply divided country.
And we're not like the UK.
So we don't have, you know, in the UK, the Conservatives have made such a mess of things.
They've now got Nigel Farage arising on the left.
They've got reform.
I don't see that happening on the Australian landscape.
But we have a different system as well.
They don't have a preference.
No, it's first past the post.
Different Electoral System00:04:18
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Which is wild in itself that Farage is having such success because usually it would be harder to get in on that because to get in, you would have to get as much as the other two.
So here we're on 30 something each.
So you would have to split the vote like 30, 30 and 32, 30.
You know what I mean?
And that's what he's doing.
Like he literally just won a seat from Labor, which is incredible.
But here, do you believe you believe that they are going to go in a way where, as you describe it, as a centre-right.
What is centre-right, by the way?
Well, sorry, I would say if they don't win the internal battle and unite around a genuinely conservative Menzian vision or Howard vision and a deep confidence in West and Judeo and our sort of Judeo-Christian heritage and values, they're just destined to electoral irrelevance going forward.
So I think sheer survival, the numbers will speak for themselves.
I also see, I'm hopeful about Freya's generation.
I think there's a sense that, you know, we've lost all the Gen X's, the boomers and the Gen X's and the Liberal Party basically have lost their seats and lost power.
So all the guys who for the last 10, 15 years, you know, in the post-Howard Costello era have run the show, I think they've had that poll-driven labor light.
And it's not all of them by any means, but I think that there's a massive, there will be a massive rethinking and realignment in the Liberal Party.
So no, I'm really confident.
I'm not a member of the party.
I'm adjacent to it.
Our movement never again is now is not partisan.
I'm a big fan of labor right.
I think that center space is vital.
And I think the alternative you see will be the UK.
And where the UK and Europe is heading is a fulfillment of the vision that Enoch Powell, the British MP, had in 1974 in his famous Blood in the Streets speech, or rivers of blood speech.
So in his Rivers of Blood speech, Powell said, massive, rapid immigration with groups of people who do not assimilate will inevitably end up.
The risk is it will end up in civil war, which has been the state of the human condition prior to the invention of the nation state where rival tribes and clans were perpetually at war with each other.
And that's where we'll end up.
Let me tell you, we'll end up if we don't address this and find a way of national cohesion, you know, in 50 years time, you know, you'll have, you know, there'll be barricades up around the eastern suburbs of Sydney.
Caulfield will be surrounded by a wall.
They'll be fighting.
You know, you won't be able to go from Caulfield to Northcote.
You know, there'll be rival tribes controlling parts of the city.
I mean, that's the horrible vision.
But that's where cities end up.
That's where cultures end up when you don't have a unifying nation state to hold everyone together and contain our differences.
And Western civilization is the only system apart from radical monocultural ethno-nationalism like Japan that has been able to hold different tribes and identities together.
So I think sanity will prevail.
And people like you and me need to provide at least some of the voices to help the Liberal Party and others on the right have that vision.
Well, more than us is your actual daughter.
What does she do in the Liberal Party?
So Freya works currently for the Menzies Research Center doing formulating policy for the Liberal Party.
And she spent the last six weeks in at campaign headquarters working unbelievably hard on social media strategy, creating social media content and learning an enormous amount about how to run a national campaign.
So she can learn from how to run a national campaign now.
Albo's Pro-Australia Vision00:15:00
Well, you maybe, you know, sometimes you can learn from mistakes.
Well, I think one of those lessons as a kid on the Jewish studies was like, and it's always stuck with me, is, you know, you can learn, you should learn something off everyone, even the thief.
Yeah.
I don't remember what the thief's lesson was specifically, but the whole point was, the point that's applied here is that you, you know, there's something you just got to look at somebody and it could be the worst person in the world, but there is something you can learn from them, even if it is learn what not to do.
That's I think, I think pain teaches us more than pleasure, typically.
True.
So I think the Liberal Party have learnt, they are in a world.
I feel like we went through this three years ago.
That was the red wave three years ago.
You remember how shocked we were at the numbers that they got three years ago?
And now here we go fast forward when only and I do agree with you that there are so many things that happened just recently in the last three months that have that have given Albanese this election.
I don't think people were voting.
Well, on the primary vote, definitely not.
They pretty much got, they were pretty close, and they always are.
But I think it was just like the culmination of a few things compounded that just worked out perfect timing for Albanese.
And now they're able to walk away and say, oh, look how great we are.
And a big part of it is the whole Trump tariffs and the timing in how that dropped, then how Canada played out.
And we just kind of followed through.
Could Dutton have done something differently?
I definitely don't think he acted Trumpian to Trumpian.
I think you could argue him and Pier Polyev in Canada possibly took the scared approach.
I'm going to distance myself from Trump as much as possible, which made him look like weak because the other side was like, well, Trump's actually your guy.
You're not going to really deal with Trump.
I'll deal with Trump.
I'm the son of a single mother.
I can deal with Trump.
Yeah.
You know, I think that's right.
See, Dutton's strength is that he came across as strong.
Like, he's the, you know, he's a cop from Queensland who's, you know, he's not trying to get you to like him, but he's going to do what's right.
He definitely didn't get people to like him.
I think that's right.
So I think he probably had advisors in the background going, hey, Peter, we've got to soften your image.
We've got to get people to like you.
And that's just not him.
You know, look, it's so easy to be an expert on the sideline.
I just have, I have extraordinary respect for what any of those politicians go through and what Dutton and Albo went through in terms of hours of work and relentless pressure.
But I think they were trying to make Dutton into someone that he wasn't because they were worried that, you know, projecting strength as a genuine conservative wouldn't win over the electorate.
And I suspect, and don't quote me on this, I suspect there are factions within the Liberal Party who did not want a genuinely strong conservative PM who would be, you know, if Dutton had won this, he would have been untouchable.
And, you know, the conservative conservatives in the party would have been ascendant.
And I suspect there were people who were very keen that that knowledge.
There are conspiracy theories floating online today that it was that the Liberals threw the election.
I don't buy it.
No, I don't buy that at all.
But I do hear what you're saying.
And I think maybe hopefully there's a lesson in if you have a strong person, a strong leader running, let him play to his strengths and don't play it down.
Like nobody takes Albanese as the strong guy, but for some reason he was accepted as the one that's going to work tough against Trump.
How did that become the reality?
Yeah, well, but you know what?
It's association.
So it's interesting.
Like in Australia, you know, the immigration debate has been what the left have done is associate the immigration debate with Pauline Hansen and racism.
So no one else can then talk about it because you're going to be called, you're just like One Nation or Pauline, right?
And I think the same thing happened with Dutton and Trump.
You're just this association.
And that's unfair because every idea should be prosecuted on its own merit.
And even if some despicable human being also has the same idea as you, that doesn't mean by default the idea is bad.
The idea is bad yet.
Yeah.
So I think that was the other thing that struck me with your campaign.
You know, when you play sport, you can play to win, but when you think you're going to win, you can suddenly start playing to not lose.
And that's very different.
So it seemed like at some point, Dutton and his team started playing to not lose.
And I think that was a mistake.
I think Dutton was great when he was playing to win, when he was hard, when he was aggressive, when he articulated his vision, when he went after the government.
Backed out on his work from home.
And just one by one, it was softer approaches.
I've got to say, we did a live stream on the night.
We had a massive, we beat Sky and ABC.
We had 50,000 people watching our live stream as the results were coming in.
It was so much fun.
Nine hours.
Yeah, ended up drunk by the end of it.
We had to have a few Lachaims.
Yeah, I can imagine.
I'm feeling the need for one of those right now, to be honest.
Well, I've got a T.
But the thing I noticed and we were talking about as it was playing out is Dutton came.
Albo came out on that night with the most Australia-first kind of agenda.
If you listen to his speech, his acceptance speech, he was genuinely relieved.
He looked like he, you know, he fought hard.
He won, fair and square.
But his speech was actually pro-Australia.
Like it was the most, and it was the most genuine speech I've ever heard from him.
It was the first time I feel like we heard from Albanese.
And it was probably a mix of relief and also, you know, it was that final stretch.
You know, even me just sitting here doing what we were doing, running the streets, I was so excited for it.
I didn't even, at some point, I was like, just rip the bandaid off.
Tell me who's going to win because I am done.
I don't think I can do another.
And I cannot imagine if you're campaigning all that time, you're strategizing, you're trying to, then you're also got all these elements that you've got to deal with.
It would be physically and emotionally tiring.
But at the end of it, which must have been a conscious decision, was this pro-Australia position.
I am no Labor supporter, but it did give me hope to see that.
I 100% I agree with you.
I think both Dutton's speech and Albo's speech gave us a glimpse of the real men underneath all of it.
And I think what we saw is that, which shouldn't surprise us, is Albo loves this country and he genuinely wants this country to be great again.
I mean, he genuinely he no, he's going to click this and send this to ABC and say that MAGA has infiltrated Albo.
Yeah, I think that's right.
And I think we should assume that's true of Labour and they are now free of the bugbear of the Greens.
They're free of that Australia hating, self-loathing, Marxist left.
And long may they be free of that.
And I think Albo is free to be just a patriot, like someone who loves.
Time will tell, but I do agree that there was a massive sigh of relief from me when I saw that, okay, fine, it's Labour, but at least it's a Labor majority.
At least the Greens are the ones paying for it.
It looks like even the Teals are paying for it.
Not that they matter anymore.
They don't matter in Parliament now, even if they get in.
But I think the message is good.
The message is strong that, no, we don't need your crazy divisive politics and your race to the bottom.
And both those Teal seats that are going to be taken are actually taken by Liberals.
So I think that's a good message.
Adam Bant losing his seat is just the icing on top.
But time will tell as to whether there is this pro-Australia or this march to woke, you know, the woke mind virus in which everything's about welcome to our own country, you know, this transgender lunacy that they're, that they, you know, even in his speech, Albanese couldn't help himself, but to kind of play the culture war.
And, you know, that was the part, that was the part of his speech that I felt was manufactured.
He was kind of teasing.
He was saying, you know, yeah, and welcome.
And I want to say thing to the elders, past, present.
And he was like, making a point.
I'm doing this because I've got the mandate to do this.
But I don't think the majority of Australians support that.
In fact, they don't.
The voice proved that.
And the polling proved it.
In fact, funnily enough, it's the one thing Dutton was right on in terms of the polling that, but I think Albo, gosh, I've not sat down over a beer and talked to him.
I think he genuinely believes that, but he was also rubbing it in Dutton.
Just having fun because he won.
And he could say, I won, even though, you know, pretending like this helped him in some way.
But, you know, so I, the beauty of our political system is we've got a parliament and we've got elections coming in three years and we've got an opposition and you and I aren't going to be shot for disagreeing with the government, right?
We're not going to be in prison.
So all if you've got an idea of how Australia can function better, get out there, tell the story, articulate it, generate support, build momentum.
And I would say to the miners, so I've, I would say to all those who are disillusioned with the Liberal Party, and I know there are a bunch, and I'd say this to the teal supporters as well.
The best thing for Australia is for the Liberal Party to be a genuinely viable alternative to the current government.
So I think we've got to work really hard to make sure that that two-party system works.
I don't think having a, we don't want to end up like Germany or like Israel, where you've got to stitch together this complex coalition of miners.
And I don't think that works.
So I just go, yeah, We've got three years to argue the case, develop and across the country, argue the case for cultural renewal, for a better, tell a better story of the kind of civilization we want to be and the country we want to be and see if we can prosecute our case and win the battle of ideas.
And hopefully our country doesn't go bankrupt and the lights don't go out over the next three years.
Yes, that is genuine fear.
Before I let you go, you've done a lot of work.
You've been, like you said, like you opened traveling the country, fighting anti-Semitism.
What does the near future look like for you?
What have you got planned ahead?
We've set up chapters for Never Again Is Now around the country.
So we want to build a grassroots movement of people around the country, Jews, Christians, libertarians, everyday Aussies, working to articulate and tell and live out this better story where everybody is safe and free.
So my indicator of success, if you said the movement we've started, Never Again Is Now, how would you know if we've succeeded?
Well, it would be if Australia remains a beacon of the very best of Western civilization.
And the evidence of that is that we are a country where every Jewish person can be safe, free and prosperous, and we are an unshakable ally of Israel.
So I really believe if we prosecute those set of ideas and we build a movement around the country around that, I think it'll be good for the country.
So we're doing that.
And I'm wanting, for me, the next three years personally are about having conversations like this, telling the better story, articulating over and over again a vision for this country where Jewish people are safe and free, where Christians are safe and free, where we own our Jewish Christian heritage.
So I did a post just before, last week, just before the election, pointing out to Christians that our political system, its roots are 17th century Anglican philosophers and theologians who were fluent in Hebrew, who rethought the constitutional monarchy and developed our English limited government, limited monarchy and parliamentary democracy based on their reading of the Torah and the Old Testament.
The political philosophy underlying Australia is the Old Testament, the politics of Israel mediated through a bunch of Anglican churchmen.
Like we need to remember that and we need to go back to that story and back to those roots.
So I plan to spend the next three years prosecuting those ideas so that there's some thought leadership for the liberals and labor and anyone who wants to listen.
And that's what I'm going to try and do.
So yeah.
So where can people find you?
Ah, neveragainisnow.com.au.
That's the place to go.
And on all the socials, neveragain or on Twitter, Mark Leach.
So yeah, on X, Mark Leach.
X, X, X, formerly Twitter, the platform formerly known as Twitter.
Yeah, so, but neveragainisnow.com.au.
I'm busy writing a book.
We'll see where it goes.
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And I think it's an exciting, it's an exciting time for our country.
Daunting.
I think the challenges are huge, but we've got to win this.
We've got to win this fight for our civilization.
We're in a clash of civilizations, undoubtedly.
Israel's at the pointy end of it.
So we've got to win that.
And we've got to build a massive coalition across political parties to stand for our civilization.
Mate, thanks so much for your time.
It's always a pleasure speaking to you.
And we'll catch up sometime soon.
Yeah, man.
Thanks, Ari.
And now we're up to that part of the show where I read some of your comments as Rebel News Plus subscribers.
I encourage you to get involved in the conversation.
You can comment on any of our stories.
And at the show, at the end of each show, I will try to get to the comments from the week.
So the first story that has some comments, cops let a violent thug walk free as left-wing violence escalates.
This was in regards to a man attacking a Trumpet of Patriots volunteer.
Bruce, you said that leftist lunatics are all the same all over the world.
And so cowardly, and so are the cowardly cops.
Two-tier policing is a front to law-abiding citizens.
That lunatic should have been put in a cell to cool down.
Instead, evil is rewarded.
Good point.
Joanne, thanks for your comment.
If the guy is a Islamist Hamas supporters, then he will get away with willful assault charge that should get him at least one year in jail.
It was pretty graphic, like it was pretty confronting seeing such violence on our streets.
So I think you're right, Joanne.
There seems to be a bit like what Bruce was saying, two-tier policing.
John says, coward, oxygen-thieving son of a, you know, what?
Not only lunatic lefty, but the two-faced bribe-taking pigs as well.
John, I get your sentiment.
It is frustrating to see such a violent person literally attack somebody in front of so many witnesses and be allowed to attack again.
Police come and they let him go and he came three times.
He essentially attacked three times.
Thanks for your comments, guys.
Refugee activists push vote to import even more hate.
That was at the pre-polling where I spoke to some of those activists in the heart of the Jewish community of all places trying to push people to vote for essentially the Greens and the Teals because they want more immigration.
The same thing that has been creating all that hate.
Marie said, pathological altruism is the death of Western civilization.
The convicts sent to Australia had nothing, no buildings, no money, no help.
They were dumped on an island and they made a civilization of it.
There is no comparison to migrants coming to our countries, getting paid to do nothing but cause issues.
Deport.
We're done.
Deport them all back to the countries they came from.
That's all I'm advocating to pay for.
And Marie, you make some good points here.
If you guys should have, if you watch the video, you'll see that the argument that one of the activists who was a refugee himself was making is that when I said, well, should we send back, you know, the rapists or whatever, he says, well, we're a country of convicts.
Half the country are convicts.
Which is an insane argument.
So they're saying, no, we should just jail them, like you or me.
We shouldn't send them back, even though the taxpayer is going to have to pay to jail criminals that came here.
Thank you, Marie, for your comment.
John says, no matter what I, effectively computer illiterate, do or do, I can't make the videos play.
Sorry, John.
Maybe jump on your phone on YouTube.
You should be able to, Avi Amini, check out my videos there.
I post them all there.
So you should be able to play them now.
I'm sorry that you're having dramas.
Maybe send through an email and I can try to get somebody to help.
You managed to comment, but you can't play the video.
It's the big button.
YouTube, I'm sure you have YouTube.
Check out my YouTube and you can play all the videos there.
Joanne says, convicts that stole a loaf of bread or a shirt.
They didn't mutilate babies, rape women, and prubescent girls, making the fathers watch them brutally killing them, burning people alive, and no conversation about that.
Jews own all of Israel and Gazans that are occupying Gaza are Hamas supporters and admit they were hiding hostages.
They celebrated Bibby's family's, the Bibas family's death.
20 years ago, we should have stopped these type that are in Australia.
They have an agenda against our culture and values.
They want us to wear burqas and they want Sharia law here.
Wow, this is so disgusting.
Joanne, I understand what you're saying, and I tend to agree.
And anybody that's advocating that, like that gentleman, he was saying he suffers from being too empathetic, unless they're Jews.
Remember that.
Suddenly, all the empathy is out the windows when Jews are the targets of heinous crimes.
Thanks for your comment.
Woke MP boasts gender winds then fails to define a woman.
This was Zoe Daniel running for the teals.
It was a great conversation and credit where credit is due.
She actually talked to me.
We've got a few comments here.
Interestingly enough, at the point of filming this, we have, it looks like she is going to lose her seat.
I think she's lost.
Arthur says, I guess Australia also has slimy, slithering, repercussion politicians.
Yes, we are not immune.
Joanne says, humanity is seeing the Gazans were all there cheering on and laughing when the Bibbas babies were murdered in a horrific way, strangled and then mutilated to cover up their atrocities in the way they were killed.
They supported UNRWA and the UN.
Wow.
Schools there teach children to murder Christians and anyone that doesn't follow their pedophile death cult.
And that was a point that I made to her.
And she conceded the thing is in that interview.
And again, if you haven't watched it, go watch it.
Zoe Daniels did concede a bunch of things.
It was a very calm interview, very un-aviyamini-like, because I give back what people give to me.
So when somebody like Monique Ryan, for example, treats me like a pest, I'll give you a pest.
But when Zoe Daniels engaged, we got a bit of an insight to what she thinks, which I think is outrageous.
But at least the voter gets a chance to hear what you stand for with Monique Ryan.
The voter got a chance to see how you treat people with contempt.
Bruce says how typical socialist wokesters are pathetic.
That was the video with Monique Ryan that I just mentioned.
And we had Bruce who said, climate hustlers are blinded by their own notions.
Let's see how they'll do in a desert miles away from anybody or in the depths of Canada's burial forest.
They want a no-fossil future lifestyle.
So send them from civilization.
They'd soon learn that a hag mother nature really is.
What a hag Mother Nature really is.
You know what?
That same argument can also be applied to the inner city First Nations activists, the Aboriginal activists who cry about everything Australia gives and they live in the inner city in Australia.
They won't last a day out in the bush.
But hypocrisy, that is what the left is known for.
The video panicked Greens handler tried to shut down.
This was at the polling booth where a Greens handler tried to stop me.
And I've got to say, I am super proud about how the Greens landed up.
I'm super proud of Australia for voting Greens out.
Frank says, Green Acres is the place to be.
Political lying is the job for me.
Hamas killing all the Jews for me.
The Greens are the party for me.
It's sung by Eddie Albert.
It was a song I don't know the tune.
So I probably sung it wrong.
Thanks, Frank.
It sounds like a good song.
Bruce says the new Greens are the old Reds.
Understand that fact and you'll understand the whole goal of the Greens parties.
Yes, it is true that the Greens are essentially the commies.
Michael says, I cannot believe what I'm seeing, hearing in this video.
Highly regrettable.
Unable to condemn what happened on October 7.
Walking away because they can't back up their narrative.
This is absolutely crazy.
Exactly.
Michael, on point.
And that's why it was so important for me to have that conversation so people can see it for themselves.