Avi Yemini and Sean Plunkett examine NZ’s Green Party MP Benjamin Doyle, accused of pedophilic emoji use and exploiting a former student in a polyamorous relationship while pushing "tolerance" policies like rebranding child abuse as "minor attraction." Despite warnings from leader Chloe Swarbrick, Doyle kept 52 controversial posts live, including one with his young son. Shareholder Jim Grenan’s $20M NZME takeover bid targets woke bias, clashing with Rainbow TICK-aligned boards over editorial control. Yemini warns of institutional capture by progressive ideologies, from schools to media, while global polarization—fueled by TikTok’s anti-Israel algorithms and rising antisemitism—threatens democratic norms. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome back to the Yumini Report, where we talk to people who are changing the world.
And we've been focusing on the Australian elections over the last couple of weeks.
And I think today I want to go across the ditch because I think we can take heed.
There's a warning.
There's a lesson to be learnt here and part of the project of what we're doing at Rebel News over the next few weeks in finding out this kind of stuff before it's too late.
My guest, somebody that many of my viewers, many of you would know him.
I've done a few interviews, actually not on my show, on his show.
Sean Plunkett, welcome to the Yumini Report.
Winston Peters' Unconventional Position00:16:03
Nice to talk again, Arby.
Nice to be with you.
It's exciting to see that you've actually joined me and I don't have to wake up super early just to...
That's right.
That's right.
So let's get straight into it.
Benjamin Doyle.
What's the story?
For people, the viewers here, most of them wouldn't have a clue about what we're talking about.
Rebel's only done one story.
So start from the beginning.
Benjamin Doyle became an MP in October of last year.
The Green Party, which has six MPs, six or seven MPs in parliament, kept on losing MPs who were doing silly things and having to resign.
The last one before him, she was exploiting migrant workers.
So a bit of slavery, which wasn't really down with the Greens.
So she tried to hang on.
Her name was Darlene Tana.
She went.
And next up on the list was a guy called Benjamin Doyle, who describes himself as a non-binary Maori transsexual.
He's meant to be Maori.
Yeah, he's Maori too.
He's whatever the hell he wants to be, Arby.
But is he Maori like he's not a man?
He's not a steel.
He says he's non-binary.
I call him him because he's clearly a bloke.
He's got it, you know.
Look, if a man claims not to be a man, then I'm going to question their cultural claims as well.
Anyways, go on.
So he becomes an MP in October.
He, believe it or not, prior to that, was the early childhood education spokesperson for the Green Party.
And I've learned in the last two days that when his name came up, the leader of the Green Party, Chloe Schwarberick, said he has main character syndrome, which is apparently a woke term for being a narcissist.
A self-obsessed narcissist.
Now, I've heard from two different sources that when they realized they were going to have to put him into parliament because they kept losing MPs, they were a bit worried.
They also suggested to him that he scrub some Instagram and social media posts in which his biography included a blue swirl regarded by the FBI as being a kind of nod and a wink between pedophiles who were wanting to talk online.
He also had a persona in this Instagram account.
He called himself Bible-built bussy.
I've lived a sheltered life, so I didn't know that bussy means, and excuse, you know, excuses to you, listener, boy's pussy.
Or in other words, the rear aperture of a boy in a sexual context.
So his alter ego online was bussy.
He posted a picture on this of him with his seven or eight year old son on his knee that said, bussy galore.
The Green Party asked him to scrub that social media before he came an MP.
He didn't.
But he did take down 52 posts and left the ones that were then published up.
A group of people researched him, published these things, and Winston Peters came out and said, what is this guy doing in Parliament?
Even woke Chris Luxon said that's inappropriate.
But the Greens and he have doubled down and he is staying in Parliament.
Well, we'll get to it because so what I understand, I was kind of looking at the timeline of this story.
That's why I want to bring you on is because I think a few people were writing about it, but it hadn't gained any traction until Winston Peters, who is the deputy PM, was on your show and condemned it.
And I watched that interview, which then it kicked off a firestorm, but it didn't actually play out the way that I reckon the average, at least Aussie or any normal person would think.
Whereas the media's reaction to it, can you tell us about that or do I have it wrong?
Mainstream media, A, didn't want to cover the story.
Okay.
I was getting calls from mainstream journalists.
Oh, you're going to actually interview Winters.
You're going to run this with Winston.
I said, yeah, I am.
It's a legitimate story about an elected MP.
So then they used our interview with Winston, but they didn't say this is dodgy.
This is questionable.
They said, oh, this is just a terrible right-wing conspiracy.
It's imported culture wars by bad faith actors.
And the Green Party said he's the victim.
People don't understand how the gay community makes light of sex with children and paedophilia.
They don't understand that this is all just a bit of banter in the gay community.
Now, the gay community came out and they said, what a load of BS.
The Green Party's just throwing us under the bus.
But mainstream media continued to paint him as the victim and have asked no serious questions about his conduct.
It is quite remarkable.
Well, I watched the press conference the day after your interview went to air, I believe it was.
And it's exactly as you described.
It was essentially them painting it as, and when I'm saying them, it's the Greens party with the cover of the mainstream media, painting it as a far-right conspiracy in which the PM should be pulling his deputy in and stop that.
That should be who's condemned in this story, not the person who's potentially, I don't know, like I didn't know much of this stuff.
I didn't know what that term meant or what those emojis mean.
And that's probably because we're just not involved in that world.
Now that it's come to light, how are they taking that position?
How's that even possible?
And how are New Zealanders responding to that?
I think most New Zealanders are outraged, are outraged at what's happened, but we do not have a mechanism to remove him.
He has not been charged with a crime.
Why not?
Why is it not been investigated?
Because no crime was apparent except for being a bit creepy.
Sorry, not a bit creepy, bloody creepy.
So he held a press conference a week later, said, I'm going to be my true self.
I probably should have taken down my website.
I was a bit naive, but I'm not.
I haven't done anything wrong.
And this is just people being prejudiced against people like me.
It was also revealed he is transing his child.
In my eyes, there's a crime in itself.
Well, that's not illegal in New Zealand.
It's illegal.
I said illegal to try and counsel a child away from being gay.
But if you want to, or your teacher or one of the taxpayer-funded trans radical groups in our education system wants to transition you, they've got, you know, open slaver.
So it really is a bizarre story, Arby.
I can't believe what I'm telling you when I think about the country I live in.
Do you think this is going to cost the Greens the fact that they are taking the position that he's a victim?
The politics are interesting.
Even our not particularly agile, politically agile prime minister has distanced himself from Mr. Doyle, said it's inappropriate.
Winston's still going hammering tongs.
But the problem is the only way Labour can get in at the next election is with the support of the Green Party.
And if the Green Party have a person who is, let's put it nicely, pedophile adjacent running as a candidate, I think a lot of middle New Zealanders who might vote centre-left will say, no way, I'm letting that guy into parliament.
So it has major political ramifications.
Labour, I know, behind the scenes is saying, why don't you dump him?
But the Greens have backed themselves into an ideological woke corner they can't get out of.
I think it's interesting because we're living that right now here in Australia.
We're obviously in the election and it looks like the only kind of likely outcome that Labour is to re-win the election is by forming government with the Greens.
And we're seeing some interesting characters pop up.
In fact, we're starting like a team of researchers just to do and somewhat inspired by this story to essentially go and background, to vet these candidates from the Greens, but also new labor.
There's a couple of dodgy new Labour candidates that we don't know anything about until, you know, how long ago was Doyle.
So he was a candidate 18 months ago and he shouldn't, I mean, the problem with our Green Party is they're no longer about the environment.
We all know that that particular piece of wokeness is falling apart at a rate of knots.
They're all about transing and identity politics and the ideology.
So they've completely lost their way.
And the people who founded the Green Party here would be spinning, or at least one of them would be spinning in his grave at what the party's turned into.
But Avi, can I ask you, is Dutton's campaign cry, let's get Australia back on track?
It's embarrassing to say that.
I'm pretty sure, but that is what it is.
That was Luxon's.
But that was Luxon's campaign thing.
And gosh, you know how he stand out.
I know, I know.
And I was going to get onto that in a second once we finish unpacking this story.
So we'll come back to that because I really want to get my head around this and what we can learn from it here in Australia, even from the perspective of somebody who's worried about a Greens Labour government, because I think that's the most likely case for Labour coming back into power in a few more weeks.
And it's only, and that's going to be worse.
That's the worst possible outcome, a Labour minority government with the Greens, because like you say, they're not about the environment anymore.
In Australia as well, they're literally about these kinds of issues.
But I find it even odd for them.
So I watched the Greens.
I've done a lot of watching this morning on this.
Oh, the other thing the Greens do here, of course, he's one of the guys who puts the tea towel on and chants from the river to the side.
I did notice that.
We're all over that, mate.
Yeah, I did notice that, which again is interesting.
You've just come back from Israel.
And how do you think Doyle would fare in Gaza?
Like it last five minutes.
You know, honestly.
And I think our government, I think Winston actually might say New Zealand's with Israel.
I get the feeling that there are some in our government who's saying, bugger that, we're not going to sit on the fence anymore.
Are they realizing that Luxon's just weak on everything, including Israel?
He's kind of taken this position that seems like a Labor-light position on everything.
At the moment, Luxon is having Trump derangement syndrome.
Now, if you were smart, you're a country the size of New Zealand.
I don't know what's going on in the White House, but I know that Trump doesn't give a stuff what we think, right?
Best thing we can do, make ourselves a small target, smile nicely, and answer the phone if he rings.
Our prime minister since last Thursday has been running around ringing all the prime ministers of Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, the European Union, saying, hey, we should form some sort of free trade agreement and fight back against Trump.
Well, I'm sorry.
That's just stupid.
To the point where Winston Peters, as foreign minister, has said, maybe the prime minister should have called me before he launched this initiative.
And the other thing, he was in Hawaii and he said, there's quite a lot of hysterical knee-jerk reaction going on.
And that is Winston Peters ticking off Luxon directly.
It is the most obvious sign of tension within our coalition government for the past year and a half.
Why is Luxon, why is Lux?
So I understand here in Australia and in Canada as well at the moment, because it's kind of all this tariff situation has fallen out during an election period, which it seems like in Australia and in Canada, it's hurting the Conservatives more than anything.
But not that Trump cares.
I don't think he's more focused on internal politics in America, as I don't blame him.
He should be.
But I guess we're all collateral damage.
But what I don't understand is why in New Zealand, why would Luxon in New Zealand, who's not currently campaigning for re-election, why is he taking that weird because the weird position that I'm finding is both here and in Canada, I'm seeing the Conservatives.
So you've got obviously Labour talking tough against Donald Trump.
That's their partisan position anyways, no matter whether they're running or not.
That's kind of a platform that they would run on.
But then what you're seeing is the Conservatives here and in Canada, they're kind of also talking tough and trying to show, like their position is we're actually tougher than Labour against Donald Trump.
Whereas I would think that they could walk in and go, look, we're Conservative.
The problem is Labour has been in power all this time and got us into this situation.
If we were in power, we would be able to negotiate a proper deal for our country and represent ourselves as proper conservatives in which Trump respects.
But they're not doing that.
Why?
And why is Luxon even playing this game?
Because Luxon's got nothing else to do.
He won't engage on issues around the Treaty of Waitangi, sort of racial issues in New Zealand.
He doesn't want to get into the transgender issue.
He doesn't want to get into the culture wars.
So he sells himself as this deal-making businessman.
It's almost as if he thinks himself as a tiny little woke Donald Trump.
Right?
And the problem is he comes, as I imagine is now obvious in Australia, half the problem with DEI and ideology has been driven by the corporate world, by companies with HR departments that are just woke beyond belief.
And when he was head of Air New Zealand, his last major job, Chris Luxemba applied the same DEI philosophies to Air New Zealand.
And I think the truth of it, underneath it all, he's as woke and as ideological as the Labour Party is.
Winston's Wages War00:08:02
And people who voted for National and voted for not just economic recovery and a change in economic policy, people who voted for a change in culture are increasingly disappointed at his refusal to invoke that change.
And Winston is saying, I'm going to deliver it to you.
And so are the ACT Party, the other party on the right.
So for people that aren't that familiar, including myself, with the New Zealand current structure, when Winston says that he will, what does that mean practically?
Is he just trying to draw votes for what, though?
He can only form a government.
And he's literally used this.
I'm going to war on woke.
But what's he called?
He's New Zealand First.
New Zealand First, which essentially makes government with the Conservative National Party.
So they're on the centre left.
They're a populist party.
Okay.
And on the right of National supposedly is the ACT Party, who are economic rationalists and libertarians.
And they form the coalition.
I think for the first time in my lifetime, there's a possibility that National isn't the biggest party on the right.
That ACT or Winston could supplant them as the biggest party in this three-way coalition.
So that would make, that would, that, that would translate.
Does that mean that he has a chance of becoming prime minister?
Yes, it also means that we may not, we've got 18 months left to run on this government.
It may not last the distance.
Is that because Winston's wages war on the part on the prime minister, then he has to call an election early and if Winston grabs those votes that he's hoping to grab yeah, then he becomes the major party, he becomes the prime minister.
I like that play yeah well, look it'd be.
I'd have to have a few more drinks to to convince me that it's going to happen, but it is a possibility and we're seeing these tensions yeah, start to spill over on issues that the average New Zealander actually as as hard as the mainstream media is working to to make them fringe issues.
But the, the average New Zealander is actually on board.
People get it and you know we've just had a survey, a major academic survey, of trusted media in New Zealand done every year.
They hate us because they're academics so they don't include the platform in the survey, even though our audience is massive.
But it found.
Well, the best they can say is, oh, distrust in mainstream media has levelled out.
One in three people trust the mainstream media in New Zealand, which is about what it was last year and how many and how many people work in the public sector in New Zealand.
Oh god, I I think it's about nine or ten percent of our population, nine or ten percent.
So you've got to minus them off, the one in three, so it still leaves you about 20, that's just about 20 of the population who don't work in government, that trust the mainstream media.
That yeah, and we've got a massive battle for a massive battle for control of our biggest media company called NZME.
I was going to get into that.
Um yeah, can you tell me?
Tell me about that, just before we go over to that.
One thing I did notice in the press conference that the greens was doing on this Doyle story, which is like a mind-blowing story to it, to the, I think, to any normal person.
If you see, if there's any question, any hint of pedophilia on any level, you would go, okay, i'm going to stand down this person until we do a thorough investigation.
Whether it's criminal or not, it doesn't it, it should not matter.
Like, I think any, any uh, a parent, especially any parent in New Zealand, will look at that and go, oh yeah, this is a concern and you know clearly we don't understand all the ins and outs and they're trying to explain it away, saying that it's just uh, the the, the way the rainbow community talks.
But you know the average person would go.
Now, hold on.
If this is what the FBI, this is what the law enforcement is saying about what this means, let's actually get a proper understanding and let's not trust the perpetrators to do an internal investigation yeah, and and and actually get to the bottom of it.
Um, but what I noticed in that press conference is the way that the Greens and then the media ran up on it that they they kind of said it was a right-wing debt and then they throw in the Destiny Church um, element to kind of to make people because you know, obviously i'm apparently part of the lynch mob, the great vast right-wing conspiracy.
Well, you would have to, that's.
But that's my point is, you would have to be really what they're referring to, because I think you're the one that elevated the story to the point where it became a national discussion, in fact an international discussion.
But um, what's destiny's?
What was Destiny Church involvement in it?
Or was that just the Greens using a movie map?
They actually haven't got into it, except Brian saying that he believes that it's wrong, like the vast number of New Zealanders.
But they have taken a stand against drag queens reading stories to kids in public libraries, which I think most New Zealanders now that.
But New Zealanders haven't known what's been going on.
They don't know about this ideological push.
They don't know that millions of dollars of New Zealand taxpayer funding has gone into funding groups that get into our schools and recruit kids to be trans.
Um, maybe more people now, as a result of the Benjamin Bussie thing, have got an idea that it goes on.
But our media are still being woofy blind.
So the the the fact that they're drawing in Destiny Church as part of the conversation is that the media just grabbing the boogeyman one that they think, because they figure they can discredit anyone associated with by bringing in Destiny Church yeah, yeah.
Do you think that it is having the effect they think or do you think that that, in fact, is going to potentially have a counter, the opposite effect in people going hold on?
Destiny Church seems to be on the right side of this conversation lately, that it might actually attract more people to Destiny Church.
Um, I think it's possible.
I think Brian's doing okay.
He's not an idiot.
Um, and listen, I personally love the guy, but i'm just I, I under.
I I understand talking to New Zealand.
History is judging him far less harshly on these cultural issues than our woke legacy media do.
And I think who's charging him who's?
Who did you say?
I think history is going to treat him somewhat more kindly than the headlines you read about him and i'll give you an example.
I was talking to a friend who was suddenly aware when his people got arrested protesting a a drag queen story time, and link said what's all this about?
And I said his people were protesting, guys dressed up as girls reading sexually provocative stories to kids.
And this person said, what, how long's that been going on?
I said about three years.
How come I haven't read about it in the news?
I said because you don't listen to the right news channels.
And this person said, well, that's sick and it shouldn't happen.
So maybe some parts of New Zealand are waking up to the and you've picked it the absolutely weird stuff that is going on.
Well, anecdotally as well, i've noticed that talking to um Kiwis, I know that weren't particular fans of Destiny.
They know that I am, but they don't they.
New Zealand's Strange Political Shift00:15:25
They never were.
In fact, whenever I talked about him they, they kind of rolled their eyes back.
But then in suddenly i've seen, I have seen a shift and I don't know, look, it's not, this is not a scientific thing, there's not like, not a broad Broad thing, but I feel like there is a kind of this shift where he's not considered that evil anymore.
And it's because of the stories in which his name keeps popping up now is things that they actually go, yeah, that is crazy.
Yep, I think that's right, Arvi.
And we probably, since the change of government, don't have the climate of fear of cancellation that was so strictly enforced and encouraged by the previous Labour government.
You stepped out of line and you were gone.
Your business was gone.
Your career was gone.
You know, now, we're going to NZMe in a second, but I wanted to understand because I saw that the Doyle story, he so he's actually married to a woman, but it was that was a student of and they're transitioning their kid, but he's in, I am reliably informed, a polyamorous relationship.
Which is, yeah, and he wanted to actually, last Greens Party conference, he wanted to get polyamory adopted as a Green Party policy.
So supposedly he's got a boyfriend and he lives with the mother of his child and they're transitioning their kid.
Oh, look, I don't know if you're ready for this.
This is actually the bombshell you may not have picked up on.
Yeah.
Really distasteful, but I'm going to tell you the truth.
So he used to work for a thing called the Burnett Foundation, which was the AIDS Foundation and runs all these gay conversion become trans things in our schools.
They scrubbed out an article that he wrote last year about the joys of eating feces as part of your sexual relations.
I think it's called SCAT or something.
He wrote an whole article about how wonderful this was and maybe your parents have done it.
You're making this shit up.
I'm not making it up.
And so they scrubbed it last week.
Well, the Burnett Foundation took it down off their website.
It had already been.
The Burnett Foundation is what?
Well, the AIDS Foundation.
It's funded by the government.
And supposedly it's about tolerance and inclusion and getting out of that.
So, like, this is clearly somebody with mental health issues.
The fact that...
You intolerant, you intolerant misogynist.
So how, when you say his wife was his student, she's a teacher now.
She was a student in.
So like, was it a high school?
She was a student of his.
He was let go from a couple of his teaching roles, we understand, because of inappropriate friendliness with students.
And so this is in a high school.
Yeah.
How many alarms?
How many red flags does somebody need?
I don't know.
I'm just a journalist.
So he married her.
He married her later.
They've had a kid.
And then somehow this kid is suddenly born in the wrong body.
Why do you think that always happens?
What are the chances, Arvi?
There'd be one in the 9 million kids who actually is gender dysphoric.
Yeah, so what because I find that interesting as well.
In Australia, we had the Animal Justice Party leader, I think he was, a really nice guy.
He spent his parliamentary privilege one day to stand up and basically just keep calling me a Nazi.
But he wouldn't come outside and do it.
But this guy happened to have, he had a son and daughter, and he still has a son and daughter, but they've switched over.
Like he had two trans kids.
How is this possible?
Why does it keep happening?
Why does it always seem to keep happening to the ideological people?
And they're ideological before they have kids.
So it's not like they've turned ideological.
Just lucky.
That's God.
It's divine providence.
So they've got such tolerant virtue signaling parents.
It's bloody madness and it should be criminal.
Sorry, I just.
Are you a Christian?
No.
No.
I don't have any faith, Arby.
No, no, I thought I was going to say because if you're a believer, then it would have been, well, God.
Jewish people would call me a righteous man.
Just righteous.
Just righteous.
Well, you just came back from Israel and I did want to hear about that.
Maybe we'll get to that after the NZMe.
I think we've understood the Doyle situation.
It is kind of unbelievable.
Would you agree with me?
It's insane.
So is this the end of it?
Is it just going to die now, this story?
Or is somebody coming up?
I'm writing stories about it, and I'm sure independent researchers are not.
Has anyone reported it to police?
No, because what are you charging with?
Being inappropriate online?
Well, is there no laws?
If law enforcement in America is saying this is pedophilic signaling, surely that's grounds to open an investigation, which means, fine, they don't have anything to charge him with yet, but they can seize his electronics and we know he's deleting stuff.
Surely, if he really is potentially going down that path, there's going to be something incriminating on his computers.
Don't they have grounds?
It would require us to have a police force that hasn't been wokified by the last Labour government, wouldn't it?
What if it turns out then that they let this go and then it comes out one day that they've let it, which is quite possible?
Well, I guess my conscience would be clear.
I'm not sure if other people's would be.
That is wild.
All right.
I guess it's almost better for him to stay in the Greens party for New Zealand's politics because it'll make I can see that.
Yeah, it increases the rights chance of victory.
Exactly, Winston.
All Winston has to do, a bit like...
Why don't you ask the Australian Green Party what their relationship is with the New Zealand Green Party?
That is a good point.
We might actually try that.
We might actually try that.
But I think for New Zealand, for Winston, it's probably perfect because he could run ads in the next election just solely on this guy.
A bit like what Trump did with his most popular ad in the election was she's for they, them, I'm for you.
Did you see that ad?
That was his most popular ad.
Okay, NZMe.
What's his story?
What's happening there?
Okay, so NZMe, for those who don't know, largest privately held media company in New Zealand.
The newspaper of record, the Herald comes out of NZMe, and the biggest talk back and radio network.
They own about half the radio stations in the country, including News TalkZB, which is a centre-rightish talkback show, biggest audience in the country, and makes all the money for NZMe.
But the print side and the digital side of that business is full of some of the most woke virtue signaling journalists in the country who are in line with the people.
What's a print side?
What publication is the print side?
The Herald, the New Zealand.
Oh, okay.
They're fans of mine.
And they're the guys who came after you and called you a Nazi and, in fact, intervened to get you banned from the country.
Exactly.
And you know, the last time I was there, again, so that time when they got, when they intervened to get me banned, they didn't put any byline.
And then I came back when I came back to film the documentary with Destiny, which is yet to come.
That's, I think we're a few weeks off.
David Fisher?
No, so it wasn't David Fisher.
So again, it was some girl.
Um from the NEW Zealand Heralded.
I got to know her name anyways, but my point was they.
So they didn't call me to ask me any questions.
They went to Destiny to get comment about me and then they wrote this, you know, another hit piece on me um, and it was again without a byline, but I knew because the Destiny guys gave me the name and number of the person and I kept calling them because I want to get on camera.
I was going to, just I.
I was, I had the best lineup of questioning, just like, how do you land here and do you?
I hear you, I hear you're looking to talk to me.
Here I am.
Do you want me to answer some of the questions in in your story?
But they, but they ran it again without a byline.
Anyways it's, it's, it's not about David Fisher, by the way, is Transing his kid as well.
Oh how shocking.
Is Fisher a Jew?
I don't know.
No, I don't know.
I don't know why.
I'm just trying to feed the answer okay um, so Nz Me Biggest, you know, the 64 000 pound gorilla in the New Zealand media scene, and a bunch of shareholders.
I don't know if they got together, but a guy bought in.
He spent 20 million dollars buying into the company and I think he got about 12 or something, nine to twelve percent.
Guy called Jim Grenan and Jim is a Canadian expat, Canadian billionaire.
You may have come across Jim and Jim says I reckon the Herald's a bit stuffed and it's a bit woke.
And what's also happened and I did another story on today the Herald has been picking and choosing who can advertise given their political bent, which is crazy.
If they're not making any money well, unions can pay twenty thousand dollars for a front page wraparound of the paper, but a group called Hobson's Pledge, which raised raises question about the predominance of Maori rights in New Zealand.
They're not allowed to advertise Family First, which is a conservative um group, they're not allowed to advertise.
They turned down advertising from the NEW Zealand Jewish Council calling for tolerance after october the 7th when they had run advertising from Pro-Palestinian protesters calling for boycotts on Israeli goods.
No, so what has happened is about 37% of the shareholders um.
Jim Bernard said I want the whole board of this company fired because they're woke idiots.
The chairman of the board, by the way, is the patron of the Rainbow TICK Movement in New Zealand.
So she is totally into the Benjamin Doyle stuff.
And he got the, there's a Safero group in Australia own 16%.
They're, I think, the biggest single shareholder.
A couple of other New Zealanders.
And they've said, we're going to go to the AGM and we're going to vote to fire the entire board.
And then we're going to get this outfit back on track and stop it being so woke.
Well, the board.
who are appointed by the shareholders.
They said, oh, no.
Oh, no, you can't do that.
We're going to fight being fired by the people who own the company we work for.
And this would destroy democracy in New Zealand.
And we must be allowed to run our media company the way we think it should be run, not our shareholders.
Unions have gone on side with them.
And there is now a deathmatch going on.
The board are trying to get New Zealand business regulators to declare the move illegal.
I think they'll fail.
And an absolute war of words for control of our biggest media empire because it is so culturally influential.
I think it's a huge story.
I don't know how much you know about Jim, but I don't think he's going to give in on this.
And he's a he's, I think he's a lawyer as well.
Or is it?
Yeah, but he's been besmirched and besmeared.
All the other legacy media and TV and debt say, oh, Jim Grenon, he's dodgy.
He once got accused of this.
And the very idea for these people that a billionaire should be allowed to exercise control over a business, presumably that's why Jim is a billionaire because he's quite good at business.
Yeah.
But they're saying, oh, no, you can't touch the woke news media.
It's a really important story.
Yeah, well, and I think it has implications around the world.
I think that if he succeeds, and maybe he's been inspired by what we already see, things like Twitter and some of the other publications, even in the wake of Trump's, who was it?
Was it the Washington who refused to run a, because usually in every election, they ran an editorial.
Was it Washington Post that refused to run at this time?
And it caused a shitstone because basically he was hedging his bet.
He knew which way it was going to go and he didn't want to be laying on the bad side there.
But I dare say he's probably being inspired by that.
And that could, because I had no idea that he owned that much of it.
So you're saying, though, he so he owns it.
He bought in for 20 mil.
He spent 20 mil.
And that got him 9%.
Is that right?
9%.
And he puts it together with a bunch of other people.
And the accusation is that he has conspired with other people to make decisions that would be bad for the company and not in the interest of other.
Did he recently buy in or was this he's had it for a while?
Recently.
Recently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and at the moment, they're all gagged from talking to each other about the deal or talking to their own staff about the deal.
For the first time in 30 years, our takeovers panel has invoked these ridiculous powers they have to say any conversation you have about this might be germane to our inquiry.
So what are we waiting for now at this point?
We're waiting for a hearing, a secret hearing of the takeovers panel to decide whether or not this breaches company law in New Zealand.
Yep.
And the board have delayed for two months the AGM where the vote to get rid of them would take place.
Insidious Bias in Journalism00:03:49
Yeah, basically they're saying they're waiting for the outcome of the investigation.
Yeah, but they are now trying to chip away so they would win a vote at the AGM, a vote on getting rid of them.
Yeah.
I think they're whistling Dixie.
think it's all over for them and they should you know wake up and smell the coffee does that mean that if he succeeds that means the Herald might actually come back to because that weren't they supposed to be like a centre-right publication yeah Yeah, yeah.
But the insidious nature, you would have seen it in Australia.
And it's worse in New Zealand because we're a smaller market and we don't have Murdoch and we don't have you guys.
The insidious kind of colonization of our mainstream news media by editors and journalists who are completely politically biased and particularly young people who've been through the edge, you know, people under 30 who just have no idea of what journalism is.
They are there to fight the good fight for whatever cause they believe in, Arvi.
Yeah.
And partiality simply does not exist.
The problem here starts at the university.
Like, I know a bunch of people that have gone through the journalism degrees and they, you know, they would reach out to me while they're doing it.
They're, you know, asking me for advice on basically they're making us write this thing, but I know if I write it the way I want to write it, I am passing.
So do I just play woke?
And the whole thing, you literally have to do it.
You have to get a job.
You go and get on the road.
That's what you do.
You have to play woke to be able to pass any of those degrees.
And so the universities are just pumping out these new woke journalists.
The publications are taking on the young ones because they can't afford the old school journals.
For them, it's a business.
They don't even care.
That's the thing that makes me laugh when the left here go on about Murdoch's control.
It's like, do you actually understand how the newspaper operates?
Murdoch has very little say on what ends up in the Herald Sun.
What you're actually seeing in most of the newspapers, even all the Murdoch, almost all the Murdoch ones, not all the Murdoch.
I think the Australians got a bit more of a ideological strength in not hiring just outrageous number of wokeys.
But most state newspapers across the country, they're hiring just the newest journalists that are on the lowest rate.
They're all woke.
They're kicking out.
So the only people that have any sort of conservative or share worldview with Murdoch are some of the opinion writers like Andrew Bolt and these kinds of personalities, which are halfway out.
And so they're getting replaced by either AI or all these woke journalists, which both of them, like even the AI that you're seeing, is all woke.
So it's scary.
But New Zealand was a bit of a shock.
When I had my personal experience with that, I just couldn't believe how unaccountable they were.
Like they were a rule, a law to themselves.
They control government.
And it's easy in New Zealand.
We're so small.
You just need to get a few key people to bend the knee to you and you've got control of the place.
Now, quickly, before I let you go, I know maybe New Zealand's forgotten about her, but the rest of the world hasn't.
Jacinta Adern.
Unaccountable Power00:12:02
She seems to be cracking on, copping gig after gig.
No, just she's not coming to New Zealand as part of the book, Till.
Funny that.
Why?
Well, I imagine because they couldn't guarantee her security if she did.
Is it really that bad?
Are people still that angry about Jacinta?
Yeah.
For what?
For what?
What are the things that people are angry about?
Look, I don't think all of it's fair.
And I don't think any politician or anyone should threaten violence against anyone else.
But a lot of the problems we're experiencing now, the problems we've just been discussing, RV, have been because she launched an ideological and a woke revolution in this country that she never told people about.
She played favourites.
She sandbagged the news media.
She paid off the news media with tens of millions of dollars.
And I think as a country and a culture, we are going to spend quite some time, if we ever can, repairing that damage to our nation.
And I think people blame her for it.
And I would say in many ways, quite rightly.
Why do you think the rest of the world loves her so much?
When I talk about the rest of the world loving her, I'm talking about the woke left.
Because the WF loves her and the UN loves her.
Why?
Because she's kind of super woke.
She was one of the here, Macron and the guys Blackface.
What's his name?
Trudeau.
They were like the three.
They were like the three cool kids, weren't they?
Of wokeness around the globe.
I actually do look at her as very much and Trudeau.
They like brother and sister.
Yeah, yeah.
And they were the cool kids for a long time all around the world.
And he's probably just as hated in Canada now.
Yeah.
In fact, he was so toxic.
It was so clear he was going to lose.
And they swapped him with Carney, who, by the way, I have met, I think he's way more dangerous.
I think he's worse than Trudeau for the fact that he is so charismatic.
Like I met him a few times and he could play the person so well.
He could talk to anyone.
He was actually like, I met him three or four years in a row.
And it was like in those few minutes, like at first, it was him running away and him.
Here's who Lutzen's been talking to on the phone in the last two days.
Carney.
Oh, maybe we can form some wonderful new trade block.
That is a dangerous thought for New Zealand if you get into bed with Carney.
Look, I don't understand what's happened to New Zealand.
I see from this distance, the whole pro-Palestinian movement has really taken off there.
I don't get why.
I sort of do.
I guess there's the whole the Palestinian movement has kind of co-opted the Māori thing, it feels like.
And so they've not Columbia University.
It's the same around the world.
It's a dream.
Sure, but I feel like it's almost cool to be anti-Semitic, to be a, and I don't use that word anymore.
It's almost cool to hate Jews again.
Isn't that weird?
But you're seeing that around the world, right?
However, let's say here in Australia, at least in the Liberal Party, at least Dutton takes a strong position on all of that to counter it.
I don't see that in New Zealand.
I don't see anyone doing that in New Zealand.
So I feel like in New Zealand, it's like, it's not even, it's not even cool or accepted.
It's like standard.
The question is, much do you hate Israel?
And that kind of becomes the competition.
You know the Greens will go full pro Hamas, but it's it's.
It's not cool to stand up or defend it's.
It's not even accepted to do that, it seems in in New Zealand and I just don't get find that Winston could take a stand on this.
I think to me the whole the war on woke, that should be a part of it.
That is absolutely a part of the situation, because if you look at everyone who's woke, everyone who argues all those same points, they all make the same argument about Israel.
So if you don't see the correlation there, and it's worse, it's almost worse than all that because not the actual issue.
I think it's worse than it because it's so dangerous in the fact that you see the far left.
So the woke left that believe in all these crazy ideas, they found an alliance with the far right.
And so it's weird how they kind of excuse each other over this one issue.
They look over, and you see that in Australia, you see that in America.
But then you have, at least in Australia, I feel like you have strong voices like Dutton, whether you like anything else about it, at least on this issue, he's unwavering.
Trump, you see these people that have, you know, the mugger around the world, but even in America, the crazy anti-Jew mugger, the fringe of the mugger, that are like condemning Trump now for being, to be honest, consistent.
And if you, if you watch Trump the whole time.
Standing for democracy and freedom.
We're standing for democracy freedom unapologetically against the Jew haters.
The Islamist Brotherhood, which seeks to wipe a whole race of people, not just out of the Middle East, but off the face of the bloody earth.
And I'm sorry.
There's no, you can't argue with that.
Douglas Murray was brilliant on Joe Rogan the other day.
Douglas Murray.
Although, like, I do love Douglas and I know him.
I know him personally, but I love him and he's just the, I wish I could talk as eloquently or half as eloquently as him on any issue.
He makes everything seem so clever.
The only thing I wish on that podcast is that they didn't focus so much on the credentials and that shit, because that's what just, like, if you look at the internet after, so all the Dave Smith, you know, cult following, you never seen, they didn't post any clips of his actual substantial arguments on Israel.
And if they did, they just cut one bit of Dave Smith having a rant, but they didn't put Douglas Murray's responses.
They focused very much on the parts of Douglas Murray telling him, you know, you don't have to put it this way.
Dave Smith spent an awful lot of time online since that trying to say I won.
He won.
Douglas Murray hasn't had to worry about it.
Douglas Murray.
No, but I think that Douglas Murray speaks to a higher IQ of person.
And so if you can watch the nuance of the whole conversation, you go, okay, it's clear that Douglas Murray just made the argument about the issue much stronger, whereas Dave Smith relies on, oh, you can't tell me not to, and then pretends.
And I feel like that, because I feel like that.
Well, you know.
Yeah.
So walking away from this conversation, three things.
What are your, with this Doyle situation, what do you think is going to happen here?
Do you think this is the end of it and the Greens are going to?
I can't see the Greens having him as a candidate at the next election, just how they get rid of him.
So you think they're going to backtrack out?
They're going to walk.
I think they have to, or it is guaranteed win for the centre right in New Zealand politics at the next election.
Well, I noticed they weren't really there at his press conference.
No, the people behind him was an academic researcher who believes in rebranding pedophilia as minor attraction.
And the woman with the blue hair runs inside out, which has just had its funding cut because they go into schools and tell kids they're trans.
So is that, am I reading too much into the fact that the Greens weren't there for his?
Well, no, the Green Party organised the press conference.
So he was officially sanctioned.
But the fact that neither of the two co-leaders of the Greens were there, I think is an indication that they probably asked him to resign or go, and he didn't.
But because they have this weird hippie-dippy, well, Kumbhai Arthur thing going, they can't fire him.
They can't fire him because that'll be trans.
That would be too aggressive.
Yeah, it'll be a micro aggression.
A microaggression or a macro aggression.
A macro aggression.
Okay, so you think that will take care of itself or the Greens and the next polls will be bloody interesting.
Can, you know, can they, or are they going to be teetering around 5%?
I think they might be.
I think most people reacted like you do to this news.
Most people don't like pedophile adjacent people who promote eating feces as part of your healthy sexual relationships.
That's just weird.
All right.
So they're just the facts, aren't they?
So that's your prediction there.
And I think the lesson for here in Australia is let's find that stuff before during the campaign's a perfect time.
The Greens in Australia, what their relationship with is the Greens in New Zealand.
Yep, yes.
Ask them if they'd have Benjamin Bussy Doyle in there.
Look, I do have like a long list of great questions for the Greens.
And I did, so a few weeks ago, the leader of the Greens party was set to, they were holding a launch campaign in Peran, so like very close to the Jewish community.
So a bunch of Jews quietly organized to go and essentially gather next to their gathering with a few signs.
They were going to do like a silent protest right across from the Greens.
And what do you know?
They cancelled their event because the optics, I guess it doesn't look that good having a minority standing there silently, respectfully, peacefully protesting you.
So I didn't get the chance to ask him because I'm definitely going to add that to the list of questions and I'm sure our paths will cross in this campaign.
So secondly, with the New Zealand Herald and that and New Zealand me, your prediction there, the outcome, what is it?
I think Grenan and the other right-thinking shareholders win eventually, but it'll be a very bitter, bitter fight.
Do you think it might take down the company?
That'll be a watershed moment in New Zealand's media landscape.
Okay.
We will follow that through.
And what was a so when it comes to Winston, so what do you think the prediction there and all these issues?
I think Winston is he had his 80th birthday last Friday.
Wow.
He doesn't look 80.
He doesn't act 80.
I think he's in his element.
I think he is going to hound and destabilise Chris Luxon for being a woester either until the coalition falls apart or the next election, Winston could outpoll the National Party.
Oh, you give me, I need one of those predictions.
Which one are you going with?
He upholes the National Party at the next election.
Next election.
Okay.
First Trip to Egypt00:03:28
And just before you go, Israel, I know you just came back and there's probably so much in summary.
Avi, there is nothing like going there.
And I don't want to be saying.
How many times have you been there?
I've never been before.
Oh, this was your first trip to Egypt.
It's the first time I've been to Egypt a few times.
I'd been down to Sinai to Sheikh Al-Sham many years ago.
I had seven, eight days on the ground there.
And we covered a lot of ground and we talked to a hell of a lot of people, Palestinians and Israelis and officials and people in civil society.
I'd already made a kind of moral decision.
If I was a reporter in Germany in 1938, I'd like to think I'd go there from a foreign country and say, these buggers are bad.
Well, I think Hamas are bad.
I think all those, but there are good Palestinians.
This is about Hamas.
And this is about a country traumatized by the most horrific invasion.
And I've met again.
I saw the video again.
I met the relatives of hostages.
I met people who had fled from Nova.
I went to Nova.
I went to one of the kibbutzes that lost 100 people.
And it is, you don't do that and not have it profoundly change your view on the world.
I know what's happening in Gaza.
Part of that is a humanitarian bloody disaster too.
And I know that the Israeli people I spoke to, and I'm not going to say Jewish, the Israeli people I spoke to are acutely aware of the tragedy on both sides of this.
But Israel's got a right.
I think Israel.
And you know what?
Jewish people have got a bloody right too.
And I'd hate to live in a world where we see 1938, 39 and a rise of semitism again.
And as a journalist, I'm not going to let, not on my bloody watch if I can help it.
Well, I appreciate it.
And it actually takes me back to the one line.
You know, at some points in that Joe Rogan episode with Dave Smith, I was like thinking about some of the things that he would say.
And at one point, Douglas Murray turns to Dave Smith and realizes that he's never actually even been to Israel or even the region.
And he was genuinely shocked.
He goes, why wouldn't you go there?
And Dave Smith goes, I've never been to you.
Have you ever been to Nazi Germany?
How do you know?
No, but you can visit Auschwitz and that should have been Douglas's time.
No, but you can go and see the concentration camps, buddy.
That's true.
That's actually a different because Dave Smith kept going, Douglas never managed, never really got back to that point.
So he could have made that point.
He could have also said, if this was the 1930s and I made my whole career over talking about Nazi Germany and there was an opportunity to go and look at it for myself, of course I would go.
I would try to go.
But here you have the opportunity.
So he kind of did that.
He says, well, I don't have a time machine.
But I felt like he should have made the point stronger as in, if this is what you're creating your entire persona over, then go and look at it.
At least go and look at it.
And if you still believe what you believe at the end of it, then I'd argue you're either full of it.
Brave Christians Upholding Rights00:12:55
Yeah, the juxtaposition of the people I see on television screens and in the streets of New Zealand, young students, and I've had them chanting in my face, blood on your hands, river to the sea.
I look at those wastes of freaking space and oxygen and I see the young people, I don't know, at a fast food joint in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem or up north or down south.
And, you know, lovely girls, 19 years old with long hair and they've got an AR-15 rifle strapped across their back.
And they are putting their lives on their line, on the line for their nation and their families.
And I talk to a lot of them who feel conflicted by it.
But Jesus, what admirable young people compared to the dropkits who put a tea towel on their head and think they're changing the world in the West.
On that note, mate, thanks so much for your time today.
That was a great conversation, as I was expecting.
Good on you, mate.
We'll catch up soon, Arvie.
I'll be wanting to check in with you on how the Aussie election's going, too.
So it's our time of the week again where we go through your comments as Rebel News Plus subscribers.
I encourage you to get involved in the conversations on my stories through the week.
So you can go to rebelnews.com.au and check out the stories each day or via the emails and have your say.
And I'll probably read out your comment and maybe answer it here live on the Yumini report each week.
All right, so the first story that I want to touch on was this insane story where a 75-year-old grandma, Jewish grandmother, was violently tackled and choked by police.
She was a sweetheart.
You've got to watch that video if you haven't watched it.
She was just so sweet, harmless.
She'd put her umbrella in front of her and the police took her down.
The brave big cops took her down, you know, while ignoring every single one of those anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian thugs that have taken over our streets and done crimes like you saw the week before.
Threatened to kill in front of police.
They got no treatment.
They were not arrested.
But this old lady they took down.
Anyway, so some of your comments here.
Jamie, what's wrong with these morons who call themselves police?
Like, seriously, do they have no education, no common sense?
Who is training them?
Totally agree.
What's going through their dumb heads?
They manhandle a 75-year-old woman when clearly the other protesters are the threat.
These are all the points I've made.
Police are supposed to be there to handle danger, not the least dangerous.
It's not just Australia.
Many, if not all our Western countries now look like this.
Our leaders are just throwing our countries in the trash cans.
And that's true.
You do see this same story happening globally.
And it's generations after us that will have to live in these countries once these terrorists take over and start running them.
They've already started.
They're in our police forces, our politics.
At least twice now, we have had a Muslim politician here in Ontario, Canada try to bring Sharia law to Canada.
It was voted down for now.
And it's a good point.
Here in Australia, right now, we're in an election.
And you have this new group called Muslim Votes, which are endorsing independent Islamist candidates, essentially what they're doing.
And you're right.
If they're not successful in this election, it's just for now.
This is a trend that's happening and we brought it on ourselves because we've imported this.
We've allowed our governments to import this hatred.
And now when they're acting up, they're doing nothing.
They're targeting the victims and they're saying that they're targeting these people for their own safety, don't they?
I'm sure I asked Elza, that lovely 75-year-old lady, if she feels safer now that the police are treating her like the criminal.
And yes, you can watch that interview to see how much safer she feels thanks to them.
It's a bit like COVID when they tackled the old women.
What was it?
They pepper sprayed that old woman in the face on the ground.
Yes, and they were doing that all back then.
They were saying, for our own safety, for that old lady's safety.
Bruce says, I wish more Gentiles would stand with these Jewish protesters.
It's the size of the mob that matters.
So if peace-loving Gentiles joined the Jews, it would give the cowardly cops pause.
And Western governments must arrest and prosecute the leaders of this anti-Semite mob.
That's how we can reclaim our lands from this miscredence.
So I think you're right, Bruce.
The fact is, it's a double problem here.
Firstly, there are a few non-Jews that do, a few Christians, and you can see their flags.
I think there's Samoan Christians who go and stand with the Jews.
But the numbers are tiny.
And that's why the police, I think many of the cops on the beat on the front line, actually, probably, if they had to pick a side, they would not stand with the Islamist mob, although lately, who knows, they've been infiltrated by both Islamists and far left.
But generally, I think most cops understand because one side actually does support law enforcement and is anti-terrorism, which is all part of that same thing.
And the other side isn't.
But, you know, so Jews don't like to go out and protest.
A lot of them are scared to do it or they're living happily in their community in Cawford, which is about half an hour from the city, and they don't want to waste their days protesting.
But also, I think it's a conservative thing.
Like the real genuine conservatives, whether they're Christian Conservatives or secular conservatives, they just don't traditionally protest.
It is a left-wing thing.
And so that's why you see the loud minority, the cooker left, the pink and blue-haired trans, you know, like the one we've been talking about in this whole episode.
They rally here in Australia.
They always have.
And they get their numbers.
And now they're on top of that, you add a big portion of the Islamic community that is going to stand up to rally against the Jews.
So you've got this unholy alliance, which gives them the numbers, which I just don't think you're going to match on the other side.
Because the alliance between the Conservative and the Jews is from two groups that don't protest.
Like Elza was saying herself, in her entire 75 years, she's never really protested.
This was her first time.
She's just had enough.
She's like, I've escaped communist Poland and I don't want to see this country that I love so much, Australia.
I don't want to see it go to shit and I'm going to stand up.
And that's what's playing out here.
So you're not going to see the big numbers.
And how do we reclaim it is by forcing, I think, the police to actually do their jobs.
And even when there are small numbers of brave Jews or Christian, whoever, that are standing up against the mob, the police need to do their freaking jobs and protect them, uphold their right to counter-protest this mob.
But will we see it?
I know.
It really comes down to public outrage.
If the public get angry enough, even from home, at the police for not doing their jobs, then something will hopefully change.
Heather says, Melbourne, London, Toronto, the West needs to reclaim their cities from this ruination.
I think that goes that just confirms what we just said a moment ago.
Absolutely agree.
Will we?
I think Toronto and Melbourne probably have this upcoming elections for both of us is going to is going to be the answer between whether it's possible or not.
I think if the left win in Canada, say if Carney wins in Canada and Labor or Labor Greens wins in Australia, I think it's going to be too late.
Joanne says, Jesus, if God, I'm assuming Jesus is God.
I'm not a particularly religious person, so I'm not going to have a strong stance on that one, but happy for you to comment.
So then we have this story of an unhinged rant calls for white people to be exterminated.
Recognition Victoria is standing by its co-chair despite a deleted social media post calling for non-Indigenous Australians to leave the country or face extermination.
Well, look at this lovely person.
And the interesting thing is, you know, they're also attacking essentially all immigrants, which is all new immigrants.
So it's weird.
The left have this confusing stance because everything is, it's the First Nations peoples thing and everyone else.
Everyone else, and when they say everyone else, they're talking about white colonizers must be destroyed and exterminated, as this person would say.
But all the immigrants in the middle that this woke left love to bring in, they don't mention them, even though more often than not, they're the ones actually destroying this great country.
Bruce says, what an evil, ungodly man.
Today's Australians aren't responsible for what happened in the past.
A non-Christian invading force would have exterminated or subjugated the first peoples.
History shows that stronger people groups defeat weak ones, but the Christian ethos of the English caused them to tolerate the natives.
And like Devo saying, give the past the slip.
Look, Australia's history, like most of the world's history, has dark periods and things that we should definitely not forget.
But as Bruce points out, firstly, if anyone else had come here, you know, let's say the Chinese had come here, it wouldn't have been a great ending.
It would have been arguably worse for the local Aboriginal people.
What happened to them in many situations was wrong.
But that is history.
History is full of many wrongs to many peoples.
Come on, I come from a culture of people that have been driven out of many lands.
But it's not about, we need to remember the past.
It's about the current.
And the thing is, we live in the best country in the world where everyone has equal opportunity, including the First Nations, the Indigenous people.
And we should be happy.
We should celebrate that as one community, one Australia, because, well, on one side, you can look at it and say, and realize that if anyone else had taken this country, you wouldn't have.
So imagine the Chinese did take it.
It'd be like China, which China in itself is an actual racist society.
A country that doesn't tolerate diversity.
Go look at, ask the Uyghurs how they feel about Chinese diversity.
So we do live in the greatest country.
We do have a dark history at points, but we have um progressed to one the greatest country in the world with the best opportunity, or one of the best opportunities in the world for everyone that lives here.
Now we need to stop it.
We need to stop before um and and in often, in many situations, I feel like the pendulum has swung too far, where we are destroying this great country because we're listening to idiots and racists, like the person, uh in this story.
Um Warren says, excellent reconciliation skills.
This man, this man of god, clearly has much to teach us all.
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And look, i've learned in my life these men of god are often um, not men of god at all.
I'm actually interested.
Is that a video?
Oh, it's in XR.
No, let's not open that now.
I was interested to see.
But um yeah, just because somebody wears a cloth doesn't mean they're a man of god.
Just because somebody wears a skull cap doesn't mean they're a pious Jew.
Um, anyone can cosplay anything.
One thing i've noticed is uh, genuine Christians and Jews um, they are that.
When I talk to them, they are full of love, not hate.
Uh, and so this bloke, I would not consider him a real Christian.
Um, this was my video from last week as well, when I was walking the streets and I met this one uh Aussie.
That just broke my heart, to be honest because uh, not necessarily about him, it says about it, kind of.
Um, exposed the broader issue we have in society today, like somebody who is happy to think and and and and.
Um who's open to what was a kind discussion, but just so blatantly full of blind hate.
Anyways um, it was sad because I realized that the problems that i've been seeing happen over the last progression, progressing over the last 18 months, has it's not only the crazy fringe left or the crazy Islamist or Muslim you know, a big faction of the Muslim community.
It is literally seeped into your everyday.
Aussie Bruce says this is why people must meet folks outside their small circle of friends.
They'll come away with a different point of view.
Of course, some people are stuck on their own opinions.
I like reading that particular guy.
I feel like he's it's, it's the internet and it's what he's seeing every day.
He thinks the mainstream media is the one pushing the Pro-Israel agenda.
I argue that he obviously is not watching the same TV I have on, because none of the mainstream media is pushing the Pro-Israel position like I guess you can argue SKY NEWS.
SKY NEWS is the only one, but they're not really mainstream, they're not on free to air, so he's not watching the same mainstream media I and and he probably it might not even be his friendship circle.
It's the dark place on the internet where he's probably stuck and being fed.
And when I say dark place, it can be as simple as TikTok.
The algorithms on most social media at the moment are feeding just Anti-Israel, Anti-Jewish conspiracies.
And it's sad because this guy is probably all right I would have, he's the kind of guy that I probably would have gone for a beer with before October 7.
But what he's being fed and he doesn't even realize it because and the reason How I know he doesn't realize it is that he could not actually, he just had these talking points, but nothing, nothing turned back.
Anyways, thank you for joining me tonight.
I hope you enjoyed the interview, the discussion with Sean Plunkett.
Let me know in the comments or in the feedback what you thought of this episode.
Until next week, peace out.
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