Ezra Levant launches forCanada.ca, a third-party group spending up to $600,000 to attack Mark Carney—his dual citizenship, alleged ties to Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell, and immigration policies—while avoiding legal prosecution. Polls show Carney’s Liberals gaining ground over Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives amid Trump’s tariff threats, though experts like Lauren Gunter warn of potential Conservative underrepresentation. Poilievre blames Liberal tax hikes and open borders for Canada’s economic stagnation (no G7 GDP growth in a decade), but his message struggles without Parliament to challenge the government. The campaign aims to expose what it calls Carney’s globalist agenda, framing him as a divisive figure unfit for leadership. [Automatically generated summary]
I want to talk to you a little bit about what Rebel News is doing.
I made an announcement over the weekend.
I'm going to expand on that.
Rebel News is going to do journalism, but I am setting up a third-party campaign group, which is separate to Rebel News.
It's going to fight against the liberals hard.
I'll give you the details.
But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus.
It's the video version of this podcast.
Just go to RebelNewsPlus.com, click subscribe.
It's eight bucks a month, and you get all the video content that goes with this podcast and the satisfaction of keeping Rebel News strong.
All right, here's the podcast.
Tonight, we're going to battle in the election as journalists, but also as a third-party campaign group.
It's March 24th, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
shame on you you sensorious bug oh hi everybody Yesterday was a very busy day.
The election has been called.
The candidates are off and running.
And I announced yesterday that we are going to start a project called a third-party campaign.
And by we, I mean me.
It's separate from Rebel News.
And that's an important point.
Here, let me play for you a four-minute video where I explain.
And I recorded this yesterday from home.
Take a look.
Oh, hi, everybody.
The election is just being called on April 28th.
We have five weeks to expose Mark Carney, to vet him, to show Canadians who he really is.
A Canadian in name only who hasn't lived here in a decade.
A globalist who carries three passports and calls himself European, not Canadian.
An insider who rigged the liberal leadership vote to disqualify his opponents and block 250,000 voters.
An oligarch who pledged his loyalty to the World Economic Forum and the United Nations.
And finally, a slippery banker who just weeks ago voted to move his own company from Canada to New York.
So we've got our work cut out for us as journalists, but I am doing something different this time.
I have set up what Elections Canada calls a third party campaign to fight against Mark Carney directly.
By registering my third party group with Elections Canada, I can raise and spend up to $600,000 in this election.
That's enough to do everything from renting billboard trucks to sending out brochures targeting different politicians to running national TV ads if we want.
And the amazing thing about a third-party campaign, I've discovered, is that unlike political parties, there is no limit on how much people can donate to it.
Canadians can donate a maximum of $1,750 to each registered political party and the same towards each party's candidates.
But those limits do not apply to third-party groups.
So you can donate any amount.
That's on top of whatever you might give to a political party.
So there's going to be a lot of ads out there, including from the Conservative Party.
And I have no interest in simply repeating their messages.
I plan to use my third party group to go further and harder than anything the Conservatives would do, including talking about things the Conservatives themselves might be squeamish about.
For example, Mark Carney's close family ties with Gheelane Maxwell.
That's Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficker.
The CBC would never talk about that.
And I'm not sure if even the Conservatives would either, but we already are.
Our billboard truck is literally in Ottawa today with that message.
If you're excited about this third-party campaign idea, go to a website I've set up at forcanada.ca.
That's f-o-rcanada.ca.
Now, I originally didn't plan to do this.
The idea came to me from the police who were interrogating me for publishing my book, The Labranos, in the 2019 election.
They said all I had to do was register my book with the government and I'd be fine.
And I thought that was an outrageous infringement of my freedom of speech.
And I fought it in court for five years.
I mean, that's banana republic stuff.
But then it dawned on me.
Registering in the election lets me campaign as if I were a political party.
including raising and spending money.
And in some ways, that gives me even more power than a political party because there are no limits on individual donors.
So I'm doing it.
I'm setting up a campaign group.
We've got five weeks to stop Mark Carney.
Rebel News will do important work journalistically, but this third party group I've set up will do other work that Rebel News can't.
I have made the first donation.
Will you join me?
Go to 4Canada.ca, F-O-R-Canada.
I've set this third party group up in my personal capacity to keep the funds separate from Rebel News.
Rebel will do journalism.
4Canada will do the political heavy lifting.
And the amazing thing is donations to the third party group like 4 Canada are unlimited.
The only limit is on our spending.
But that limit is so high, $600,000.
It really is amazing.
Anyways, go to 4Canada.ca and let's go and fight this campaign.
Now, I've had a few letters today saying don't run as a third-party candidate.
That will split the vote.
Don't worry, I'm not running as a candidate.
And let me explain a little bit more what third party means.
In the United States, sometimes people say, oh, there's a third party candidate who's going to run.
Remember, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was considering running as a third party candidate.
Historically, Ross Perot ran as a third party candidate.
I absolutely understand that.
In the context of a candidate, a third-party candidate typically is a vote splitter, a principled person quite often, but someone who splits the vote, someone who really has no chance.
I'm not doing that.
But in Canada, we call our super PACs third-party campaign groups.
You probably heard the word super PAC again from the United States.
That's basically a group that is unaffiliated with candidates.
It's allowed to campaign.
They're not running candidates.
They're fighting on issues or they're promoting or attacking a candidate or another, but they are not fielding candidates themselves.
That's what we're doing.
In Canada, it's called a third-party campaign group.
And we studied the rules very carefully.
The only reason we're considering this, as I mentioned in the video, is because of the terrible experience I went through about five years ago when I published the book, The Labranos, which was a legitimate journalistic act of publishing and political commentary.
As you know, there were 24 books published about Justin Trudeau in the 2019 election.
Mine was the only one prosecuted, the only one sentenced and fined for obvious reasons.
Mine was a conservative critique of Trudeau.
But when I was interrogated by the two 30-year veterans of the RCMP, they made it clear that all I had to do was submit to the government and register with the government as an author.
And you might recall that clip here.
Take a look at the guy saying that.
Here's this guy saying, why didn't you register with the government?
Take a look.
Today we're here to vote Rebel News Network Limited.
Oh, I know that.
And I'm just asking you to confirm.
that not a single other loving book of Trudeau is being investigated.
But once we're done, if you believe that there should be complaints that are...
No, because I'm not a censor like you.
I'm not a bully and a censor.
I'm not a bureaucrat looking to justify my budget like you.
I go out and earn my living every day, fella.
You call in authors to grill them about a book criticizing your boss.
Think about who you are.
We call the director of Rebel News Network Limited.
Yeah, who happens to be the author of the book?
I think there's going to be a chapter about you two fellas in the next edition.
Well, why didn't I register with the government?
The same reason I don't register my typewriter with the government.
I don't live in communist Romania, and I'm not picking that country by random.
Romania actually had a law that if you had a typewriter in the Cold War, you had to register it with the government, and they took a typing sample.
You know, those old-timey typewriters where you went ka-chunk, ka-chunk, ka-chunk, and the keys went like that.
I don't know if you're old enough to remember what an old-timey typewriter was like, but every typewriter, some of the keys were just slightly twisted or tilted or out of sync.
And so the way that the keys actually struck the paper were like a fingerprint.
No two typewriters were identical.
So if you had a typewriter in Romania, you had to take it to the police station.
They would take a sample and you were sort of licensed for that typewriter.
But if they ever found samizdat, that's the Soviet word for, you know, adjit prop, anything that was a subversive publication, they would compare it to the typewriters they had on file.
It's a long way of describing what it's like for an author to have to register for the government.
So naturally, I was appalled.
But my appall did not do anything to win the court battle.
I actually lost all the way up to the Federal Court of Appeal.
I was very disappointed in the court.
And I know that that's a violation on my freedoms, but I lost the trial.
I lost the hearings.
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So here we are on the doorstep of the 2025 campaign.
And I'm going to do stuff that is just as partisan as a book or more.
You know, our lovable truck, right?
We got that gorgeous, beautiful billboard truck.
That thing is going to be running at least eight hours a day every day.
I mean, that it was just going full tilt with the truck.
And of course, we're going to hammer the liberals.
What do you think we're going to do?
And I know in my bones, if we don't set up a registered third-party campaign group and do what that cop said, I know I'm going to be in front of a prosecution one more time.
And the trouble is, you're second offense, second conviction.
They're going to wallop me.
They're going to give me a $100,000 fine.
And that's just not the way we're going to use our donors' money here.
We're going to use it to fight the bad guys.
So I absolutely object to becoming a registered campaign group.
I think it's a violation of my civil liberties.
But I have to do it while that is the law.
So I am doing that.
And I'm doing it in my personal capacity because I don't want to commingle rebel news stuff.
Rebel News is going to continue doing journalism.
I'm not going to continue to be the boss of Rebel News.
Obviously, I'm going to be a journalist with Rebel News every single day.
But I have set up this group called forCanada.ca, its own bank account.
I put in the first donation.
And what I love about it, here's sort of the trick, as I mentioned in that video I recorded, is that Canadians can give an unlimited amount of dough.
So if you're wealthy enough to be able to give $1,750 to the Conservative Party or the People's Party or whatever you're doing, that's as much as you're allowed to give under law.
But there is actually no limit to what you can give to a super PAC, or as they call it in Canada, third-party campaign group.
So I think that's sort of awesome.
So I didn't want to go down this road.
I object.
I'm doing it under protest.
But if the government insists I set up a third-party campaign group, all right, let's get ready to rumble.
I'm sort of excited about it.
So I've told you the structure of it.
It's just a third party.
The purpose of it is to not get arrested.
I can also tell you what it's not is it is not a campaign with party candidates.
So I want to let you know I am not going to split the vote by running against anybody.
So there were some people who worried about that.
So what will we do?
Well, first of all, we're not allowed to collude with other groups, which is fine.
I have no interest in doing that.
I have my own issues that I want to focus on like a laser.
And here's what I want to emphasize, and I touched on that in my video from yesterday.
I'm not interested in making the same arguments that Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives are.
First of all, they're good at it.
Second of all, they have a huge budget.
I think it's around 25 million bucks or maybe even more.
So they don't need me talking about, for example, how the per capita GDP in Canada has gone down.
They don't need me to talk about how housing prices have gone up, how inflation has made even food expensive.
I don't think they need that.
They're going to talk about that.
But what are they not going to talk about?
Things that they are worried about, you know, being accused of being too right-wing, things that are maybe a little bit politically incorrect.
But that's sort of where Rebel News lives and thrives.
Let me give you an example, immigration.
Mark Carney just hired the head of something called the Century Initiative.
Have you heard of that?
It's insane.
It's wacko stuff.
It is extremist fringe stuff.
The Century Initiative, as the name implies, would bring 100 million people to Canada.
So it would bring in so many migrants that our population would be 100 million.
That's psycho.
And the leader of this century initiative was just hired as a senior staffer by Mark Carney.
By the way, if you brought in 60 million new Canadians, you're not bringing in them in from the United States or from Denmark or from other first world liberal democracies.
You can't find 60 million people who would come to Canada.
Economically, that would likely be a step down for most of them, given how we're doing.
You're going to find those people in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Syria and Africa and people that do not have economic or cultural fit with Canada.
That's the Trudeau approach to immigration, bringing people from Gaza.
You could bring 2 million people in from Gaza like that.
It's not going to help the Gazans and it's going to be a detonation both physically and morally in Canada.
That's how you get 100 million immigrants into this country.
Now, you can't talk about that in polite company because you'll be called racist or whatever.
It's not racist to want limited immigration that's a fit both quantitatively and qualitatively.
That is not racist at all, which is, but it's so scary that the Conservative Party probably won't talk about it.
I don't know how strong the Conservatives will be talking about the Hamas protests on our city streets.
I think they're fairly brave on that stuff, but I just don't know.
How about transgender extremism?
Not only has Mark Carney said that he's all in for woke, but we learned from an expose in our friends at juno.com that Mark Carney's daughter is a trans activist who actually went to a radical clinic in the UK called the Tavistock Clinic.
Now, some people said, oh, you can't talk about that.
Why are you picking on his daughter?
Well, first of all, she's a grown adult.
Second of all, she's an activist who talks about her politics and, in fact, is a public campaigner.
The reason it's relevant is not because Mark Carney's daughter says those things, but because it's relevant to Mark Carney himself.
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What does he believe?
And the fact that he would go along with sending his daughter to such a terrible and controversial place as the Tavistock Center, I think, demands some questions.
Also questions about Mark Carney's loyalty and his citizenship.
Just how many days in 2024 did he even live in Canada?
Was he here for even 30 days?
Why does he have an Irish citizenship?
I understand the British one because he went to work for the Bank of England.
But the only reason I can think of for him to get an Irish citizenship is in some sort of tax dodge.
I'd like to hear him answer that question.
And I'd like to have the question put.
And I'm not sure if the Conservatives would go there.
I'd like to ask more about his World Economic Forum exploits.
I don't think the Conservatives are going to talk that much about it because they'll be called conspiracy theorists by the CBC.
I don't care what the CBC calls me.
Every single year I go to the World Economic Forum and I see with my own eyes the truth of it.
It's no conspiracy.
In fact, the last time I saw Mark Carney was at the World Economic Forum.
And I asked him who he works for, and he told me the UN.
Here's a clip of that.
Sorry, I don't.
When you meet with the PM on climate, are you there on your own behalf or are you there on behalf of a company lobby?
I am the UN special envoy on climate action and finance.
And what do you make?
It's a bitter cold in Canada, down to minus 40.
Minus 40.
And Gilbo was saying go to electric cars.
That doesn't work.
Well, you've got to have, watch out.
You've got to have the full, you've got to have full capacity, right?
And you've got to have to, you know, one of the things we're going to need to do in Canada, across Canada, and this is, you know, for the benefit of jobs in the country, is build out the grid.
You can't switch before you build it out, number one.
Number two, one of the things you need, regardless of the form of energy you have, we have, is also to have what's called a capacity market alongside the electricity market.
So you think that Gilbo's plan is a little bit hasty since we haven't done those foundational things.
Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario, Canada, Australia for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build.
You have to build.
And it's a time to build.
And look, we're in a position where we in Canada are in a position where we have been an energy superpower.
We can continue to be an energy superpower.
We've always had the ability to develop new sources of energy.
But the PM said there was no market for natural gas.
How do you feel about natural gas, especially to relieve Ukraine and other Europeans from Russian gas?
How come they are buying Russian gas and Qatari gas, but Justin Trudeau won't let them buy Canadian gas?
Well, we would have to get to build the trains in order to do what called LNG trains in order to get the gas to them.
Well, God, this is a long interview, isn't it?
What exactly did you do with the UM?
And how is it that while you're working for the UN and the Bank of England, you're running these for-profit ventures on the side?
How is it that he becomes a hundred millionaire?
Or is he a billionaire?
He won't tell us.
How do you make so much money while being a public servant?
I just don't think it squares.
And finally, the campaign we're already running about Ghillaine Maxwell.
If you remember Ghillaine Maxwell, that was Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand woman, the sex trafficker.
She's in prison right now.
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She was hanging out with Mark Carney and Carney's wife.
They were friends.
Mark Carney also hung out with Prince Andrew.
And I'm a monarchist, but holy mackerel, the reason Prince Andrew is never seen in public anymore is because the Queen, before she passed away, basically banished him because of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Well, Mark Carney has a friendship with Epstein or Maxwell.
He won't answer questions about it, but those are questions that ought to be asked.
My point is, there are many things that our group for Canada, that's what I'm calling our third-party group, can talk about, whether it's immigration and the sensory initiative, whether it's Hamas or trans extremism, or questioning how a man who is disloyal to us, has lived away from us, who's got alternative citizenships, how he can suddenly come back and seek to rule us.
I want to know more about his World Economic Forum role and his United Nations role and his role with Epstein.
And those are the kind of things the Rebel News is going to do.
Rebel News is going to do it journalistically.
And it's going to happen over here.
But over here, our third-party campaign group is going to weaponize that stuff in a political sense.
We're going to deploy brochures.
We're going to deploy ads.
We're going to run the billboard truck.
In fact, I've spoken today with several other independent media companies, and I've asked them to send over ad proposals.
In other words, for Canada, isn't just going to use content generated by Rebel News, but also work with, oh, I don't want to give it away yet, but you'll see where we're going to pop up.
So we're having a distinction between the two.
Rebel News is going to continue doing great journalism, but the third-party campaign group is going to battle the bad guys in politics.
And the reason we're setting that up is because the government told me to.
Now, those aren't words I normally say.
But you know what?
Bring it on.
And I'm looking forward to it.
And maybe if there is a result at the end of this election where Pierre Polyev wins, and I hope he does, maybe we'll have more freedom of speech and freedom of politics in Canada where I don't have to register my typewriter with the government, so to speak.
But in the meantime, fine.
I'll follow the rules and we'll use those rules to win.
Stay with us.
Morehead.
Well, big news yesterday.
The election was finally called.
Mark Carney going to the Governor General and requesting that the writ be dropped, as they say.
Both parties, both main parties, raring to go.
It's remarkable to me to see the decline of the NDP.
I think people who told pollsters for the last several years that they were voting NDP, I think it was just sort of almost a public statement of how noble they were.
It was a kind of virtue signaling.
But in the end, when it comes down to the two real choices for prime minister, do you want Pierre Polyev or do you want Mark Carney?
I think a lot of that NDP vote is going to migrate over to the Liberals like it did in 2015 to put Justin Trudeau over the top.
That, I think, is at least half of the reason that the gap is narrowing.
Pierre Polyev having a 20-point lead just a couple of months ago.
Now it's basically all tied up.
Part of that is I think Mark Carney changes it up.
Anyone is better than Justin Trudeau, but I think part of it is the amazing vanishing Jagmeet Singh.
But how is the election going to go?
And will Alberta and will Alberta have anything to do with it, really?
Or is Alberta essentially written off by both parties as a place where votes can't be moved?
How will Donald Trump's threats of tariffs play out?
And basically, let's just chat about everything.
Joining us now to talk about these things is my friend Lauren Gunter, senior columnist at the Edmonton Sun.
Lauren, in a way, parties typically don't waste time in the campaign talking to people they have a lock on and talking to people they have no chance on.
It's always those battleground ridings in the U.S., they call them the battleground states.
Wouldn't make a lot of sense for Pierre Polyev to spend too much time in Calgary, for example, or for Mark Carney to spend too much time in Montreal.
What are the battleground regions in the country and what are the battleground issues?
Well, let's start with the regions first.
The battleground regions to me are the ones that they've always been over the last decade and a half.
It's Quebec, Ontario, and the lower mainland of BC.
Because you can almost form a government if you take Montreal, Ottawa, the Greater Toronto area, and Vancouver, Vancouver proper.
Typically, the Conservative Party, whether it's the Canadian Alliance or the Reform Party, or now the Conservative Party of Canada takes the suburbs of Vancouver.
But if you get Vancouver proper, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and you count on 30 seats from Atlantic Canada, you form a government.
And I think that's where the battle is going to be again this time.
It didn't look like that for a while.
It looked like the Conservatives had a lock on Ontario.
It looked like the BQ had a lock on Quebec.
But Justin Trudeau goes and everything that the Liberals have done for 10 years, which was completely incompetent, gets tagged to Justin Trudeau when he leaves.
So the whole group around Trudeau is now around Kearney.
These are the same brains trust that ran the economy into the ground, opened up the doors to unlimited immigration, increased crime in the country by getting rid of any restrictions on bail, basically, and on and on and on.
And yet this whole election comes down to two people, Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau.
Justin Trudeau, because he's gone and the liberals can then go to everyone and say, we wanted to do the right thing for 10 years.
We were just aching, aching to do the right thing.
But Justin Trudeau kept us from doing it.
So now that he's gone, we will do all those right things.
And a lot of Ontario and it seems like Montreal area Quebec voters are going, okay, that sounds good to us.
So it just perplexes me.
I am a fan of in NFL football.
I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.
And for 20 years, they have not lived up to their promise.
And I go every week and I hope in front of my TV and I hope that they're going to get better.
And now I'm starting to feel exactly the same way about the Conservative Party of Canada.
Everything conspires against them.
In this case, Donald Trump has come out with his preposterous, totally, utterly preposterous tariff threats and his insults at Canada.
Like, I cannot believe he's just, oh, it's a very nasty country.
They're very nasty.
They're hard to deal with.
Yeah, well, wouldn't that be a good thing if in trade negotiations we were tough to deal with, but I'm not sure we are.
You know, the last time we had trade talks with the Trump administration, we tried to throw in Indigenous issues and gender equity as two things in a trade deal.
Now, that doesn't make us nasty.
I think it makes us naive.
But I think you've come down to Justin Trudeau is gone, and much of the country is really worried that Donald Trump means it when he says he's going to annex Canada.
And so they're now deciding who would be best to stop him from doing that, Pierre Polyev or Mark Carney.
So it's a false issue, but that's at this point what is driving the agenda in the election.
It could change over the next five weeks.
But right now, as of day one or day two, it's the annexation and the absence of Justin Trudeau.
And I am saddened for the prospects of the Conservative Party.
I tell you, just a couple of months ago, it looked like a super majority.
I mean, it looked like the liberals wouldn't have a seat really west of Ontario, maybe one or two.
And it was a pleasure to see Pierre Polyev talking about fairly strong conservative ideas in Toronto, in places, and just getting huge crowds.
And I think that's been taken away.
I think you're right.
People are afraid.
I mean, Donald Trump has that Manhattan brawler style.
He gives people nicknames they don't like.
He yanks their chain.
And most of it's for banter.
But, you know, I think Canadians aren't used to it.
I think some Canadians, it revives an ancient anti-Americanism that frankly goes back to the founding of our country.
I think our Trump derangement syndrome media magnify it.
And to be candid, Donald Trump's remarks have permitted all of those interpretations.
And I see that the second lady, Usha Vance, is in Greenland.
And so the idea of America increasing its territory does not feel as far-fetched as perhaps it should.
I think it would be incredible if Trump's tariff pot shots saved the Liberal Party that was so rightfully destined to the trash heap.
I don't know.
I still think the Conservatives are going to win, by the way.
I do.
I do too.
And let me give you just one example.
First of all, Carney is still benefiting from his honeymoon.
And that's going to wear off.
Does it wear off before April 28th or after April 28th?
I think he really only has about a two-week honeymoon.
And I think the last three weeks of the campaign are going to be very different from this first week or the first two weeks.
Fingers crossed that that's going to happen.
But Polyev had a rally in suburban, well, into the north end of Toronto on the first day of the election campaign.
And they had so many people show up that they had to turn away hundreds of people.
So, you know, the example that I used recently in a column was in Iowa, just before the presidential election in November of 24, there was a poll by the Des Moines Register.
Right.
Very well-respected.
A rogue poll.
I remember it.
Kamala Harris was ahead by three points in Iowa.
She was going to win Iowa.
She lost Iowa, I think, by 15 points.
So, you know, you can tell me that we're back to the old way where a lot of people say they're voting liberal because socially that's acceptable, but really they're voting for, they're intending to vote for the conservatives.
I mean, one of the reasons that Jagmeet Singh has spent the first two days of the campaign hammering at Pierre Polyev and not at Mark Carney is not just because he spent the last four years as a sycophant for the Liberal Party.
That's part of the reason.
But the bigger reason is that Pierre Polyev has stolen blue-collar voters away from the NDP.
And that's largely who pushed Trump over the top in the United States.
So is it possible that pollsters don't catch these people?
They don't answer numbers on their phones that they don't know.
They're reluctant to do polls or they tell pollsters the things they think pollsters want to hear.
Yeah.
So is it possible that instead of like a two or three point gap in favor of the conservatives at the moment, we're closer actually to a six to seven or eight point gap?
Yes, I think so.
But we'll know much better after Mark Carney has had to stand up in public and answer a lot of questions.
I know he's not popular with the parliamentary press gallery, which is kind of funny.
Right.
Because of course, on one level, they're all so excited that he's there.
It says, do you remember the initial response from the media in the United States, the legacy media in the United States, when Kamala Harris took over from Joe Biden?
Oh, really?
Oh, thank you.
Absolutely.
Oh, she's one of the most caustic politicians I can remember in the last 10 or 15 years.
And yet she had this, wow, we're all about joy.
We're just the campaign of joy.
And the American media lapped that up.
ABC did the first and only presidential debate.
It was so biased.
Like you and I have complained lots of times about the star and the globe and the CBC and CTV increasingly now, which is just a mouthpiece for the Liberal Party.
I had never seen bias like I saw those first six weeks after Kamala Harris replaced Joe Biden.
Like never seen that kind of bias.
They were so excited that there was somebody who might beat Trump that they didn't care how biased they were.
And I think we're going, we're seeing some of that now.
Like this, this whole idea that Trump can annex Canada, how do you do that?
But the CBC says, oh, there's a real threat to Canadian sovereignty here.
And the star and the globe.
Oh, my goodness.
He's going to try and take us over.
Well, until he starts to amass divisions on the southern border, there's nothing they can do about this.
There is no legal body in the world he can go to to apply for annexation of Canada.
We would have to have a referendum where we overwhelmingly voted to ask to join the United States.
He has ticked off Canadians so much that a referendum right now would be 70, 75%, 80%, maybe more.
No.
So there is no way we're going to get annexed, but they play right into this liberal fear-mongering stuff by saying, oh, please don't annex us, Mr. Trump.
It's ridiculous.
You know, I see in the news that Mark Carney says he's not rushing to meet with Trump, but I also see that he has requested a conversation with Trump.
And again, this is all just secondhand reports, that Trump has declined the meeting until the election is over, which makes some sense, by the way.
I mean, that's typically the way it's done.
Yeah.
I mean, first of all, why would you negotiate in the middle of the campaign?
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And second of all, you might have a totally different guy.
I mean, just, and this is all on the liberals for their whole messing things up.
But Danielle Smith, who I think is being the most productive diplomatic representative to the states, who is not a Trump hater, who actually went to the inauguration, she's been trying to lower the temperature on both sides of the border, by the way.
And I think she's been the opposite of some inflammatory.
I think Doug Floyd has been insane by saying he wants to turn off electricity to the Northeast United States, including their hospitals and schools with a smile on his face.
And I know that's just bullyish banter, but I don't think it works to match Trump with a mini Trump.
I don't know if that works.
But here's Danielle Smith a little while back on Breitbart Radio, which is a satellite radio show, trying to lower the temperature.
And she was pounced on as this was some sort of disloyalty.
It sounds to me like she was just trying to cool the jets.
Let's take a listen to it.
There's a couple minutes long.
Let me play a couple minutes a bit, Lauren.
Let's just take a listen.
Before the tariff war, I would say yes.
I mean, Pierre Polyev is the name of the Conservative Party leader, and he was miles ahead of Justin Trudeau.
But because of what we see as unjust and unfair tariffs, it's actually caused an increase in the support for the liberals.
And so that's what I fear: is that the longer this dispute goes on, politicians posture, and it seems to be benefiting the liberals right now.
So I would hope that we could put things on pause, is what I've told administration officials.
Let's just put things on pause so we can get through an election.
Let's have the best person at the table make the argument for how they would deal with it.
And I think that's Pierre Polyev.
And I do agree with you that if we do have Pierre as our prime minister, then I think that there's a number of things that we could do together.
It goes on a little bit longer, but you can get the gist of it.
And I think she's right in a number of ways.
First of all, it's in the country's interest that we lower the temperature.
And it's in the Conservative Party's interest.
Now, this was somehow seized upon as some great act of disloyalty.
What do you think about the reaction to do this from some Canadian journalists and I got a phone call last night would I be on a radio show, a talk show this morning to talk about Danielle Smith's incendiary remarks about Trump and the election.
I thought, I didn't hear anything about this.
I don't know.
I'd heard the Breitbart interview two weeks ago when it came out, but what I couldn't understand, and I opened the papers this morning and they are all headlining, Smith does polyev in with controversial remarks to far-right radio.
Well, first of all, if Breitbart is far-right, then you have to, when you're describing ABC, NBC, and to a lesser extent, CBS in the United States, you have to say far left.
So, first of all, they frame this in such a way that she looks like she's a nut bar for talking to Breitbart.
She's not.
And, you know, you get the same with a mutual friend of ours frequently, a guy named Ben Shapiro, who is always portrayed as an extremist, far-right.
He's not.
He's an old-timey conservative.
He's the most mainstream conservative pundit in America.
Exactly.
He's sort of, he's what conservative is.
So she says, well, you know, I think that Trump, with all of these threats and the talk of annexation, 51st states and things, is helping the Liberal Party.
So I have told administration officials, and these are people that she mostly met at the giant oil trade show in Houston a couple weeks back.
She said, I've told administration officials it would be smarter if they would pause until our election is over and see who wins.
Okay.
I think I've written that about eight times.
So I don't understand why that's a controversy.
But all of a sudden, all the same people I mentioned earlier, the CBC, CTV, the Globe, the Star, they're all saying, oh, oh, my goodness, Daniel Smith is trying to throw the election for Pierre Poly.
Okay.
So Doug Ford goes and has breakfast, very public breakfast at a diner with Mark Carney.
He then later says that Mark Carney is very bright.
And a third occasion, after the prime minister and the first ministers met by teleconference last week, he says, I can sure work with him.
He seems like a great guy.
That is an endorsement of Mark Carney.
Now, that does not create any of the rankle that Smith's comments raised.
And Smith is just saying what every other conservative columnist, many liberal columnists in the country have said, and that is that Trump has revived the liberals' fortunes.
We said that when we began this interview, that Trump's threats have saved the liberals from near certain extermination.
But somehow this has become the first day, I'm sure what has happened, is the liberal war room.
heard this interview two weeks ago and they said, oh, this is going to be good for us.
Let's sit on this for a little while and then we'll feed it to all of the people in the mainstream media who we know and we'll tell them, oh, can you believe that?
Can you believe she would talk to U.S. officials about the Canadian election?
And without thinking, because unfortunately, there are too many people in your profession and mine who don't think before they start writing and broadcasting.
They said, oh, they're right.
Oh, it's so awful that she's doing this.
You know, I think a lot of the Team Canada stuff is a little hard for me to believe, especially from a leader, Mark Carney, with three passports who left Canada.
I mean, and even his meeting up with Mike Myers, the comedian who left.
And by the way, leave Canada, make it big in America.
Find your fortune.
I don't begrudge it.
I mean, half of Saturday Night Live are Canadian comedians.
It's the way to do it.
It's just, and I saw a beautiful clip of Mike Myers saying how much he loved America.
He was so honored to become an American citizen.
And I don't doubt any of it.
I'm sure he felt that way.
It's a little bit of chutzpah for these guys who left Canada decades ago to get rich to come back and call other people disloyal.
Mark Carney has a Canadian passport, a British passport because he worked for the Bank of England.
Why does he have an Irish passport?
The only reason to have an Irish passport is for tax reasons.
Unless you're Irish.
He enjoys potatoes and a nice stew, I think.
He's there because of the tax.
How many days in the last year did he actually live in Canada?
I'm not willing to take lectures on patriotism from folks who said the Canadian flag was a hate symbol after the trucker convoy.
Hey, let's play a quick clip.
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Here's Pierre Polyev reacting to what we saw.
I just wouldn't mind showing our listeners this.
And let me know if you have any thoughts on it.
Here, take a look.
People are free to make their own comments.
I speak for myself, and let's talk about my agenda.
My agenda is to put Canada first for a change.
You know, there's a reason why Donald Trump wants the weak, out-of-touch liberals in power.
They've handed him control of our economy.
You know, Trudeau and Kearney raised taxes on work, investment, and small business, driving a half trillion dollars out of our economy to the U.S.
They blocked pipelines, mines, LNG plants, forcing our energy companies to sell 100%, almost 100% of their product to the Americans at discount prices.
They have buried us in bureaucracy.
And Donald Trump knows that a weak, out-of-touch liberal government, given a fourth mandate, will only make Canada a bigger target for him.
What we need, and that's why the choice in this election is whether we're going to allow the Liberals, we're going to elect weak, out-of-touch liberals to a fourth mandate, or whether it is time. to put Canada first for a change with a new conservative government that will axe taxes, build homes, unleash our resources,
bring home our jobs so that we can confront Donald Trump and the Americans from a position of strength.
Listen, I think the whole thing was a hullabaloo, as you say.
I think Danielle Smith, who's very popular at home, is useful to bash around in that Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal triangle.
I saw Danielle Smith just had some the largest ever fundraising dinners in her province.
And you might say that's not reflective of the ordinary person, but I think certainly reflective of her own party, which recently gave her 91% support.
I think she's doing a good job defending Alberta's interests against Ottawa, which says they want to shut in the oil, and against America, which says it wants to tariff it.
I think she's got a pretty tough job.
And I mean, obviously I'm a fan, but I think she's doing a pretty good job of it.
Yeah, I do too.
I really do.
And it is significant that in Edmonton, Danielle Smith drew 1,500 people to the leader's dinner.
This is Redmonton.
This is a city that has no elected UCP MLAs, none.
And she still attracted 1,500 people to her dinner.
So that is significant.
But two things occur to me when I watched that Polyev clip there.
One is he's got to get smoother.
Like he didn't look happy.
He didn't look like he was excited to be delivering the message he had.
And it was like he was stumbling.
Oh, yeah, I memorized this.
Now, what comes after this?
There is some hesitancy in there that doesn't work really well because Carney's not going to have that hesitancy on the two or three things that the liberals are going to focus on.
But the other thing that occurs to me is that we have been almost three months, certainly since Christmas time, I think, without hearing from Polyev much.
There really wasn't much he could do because the Liberals shut down parliament.
And when you are the leader of the opposition and you don't have daily question period to go after the government, you can hold rallies, but if the newspapers and radio and TV stations don't send their reporters, there's really not much you can do about that.
So we haven't heard from him much for three months.
And I think as people start to hear from him again, and they start to hear the message that remember, these are the liberals who raised crime.
They doubled the cost of housing.
They raised your grocery prices by at least a third and probably closer to a half.
And if you let them back into power, they're going to do exactly the same thing.
Yes, you might be able to give them a mandate to deal with Trump, but they would take a fourth mandate as proof positive that Canadians want them to have more open immigration.
They want to have higher taxes.
They want us to have more environmental regulations.
Let's keep the EV mandate that by 2035, all new vehicles in Canada have to be electric.
I mean, all of that stuff that was controversial will still come flooding.
But the Liberals will take another mandate as proof that that's what Canadians want them to do.
It's not, but that's what they will see.
And so I think Polyev has to hammer away, and I think he's prepared to do this.
I'm not telling him something he isn't already working on, but they have to hammer away at this is the same crew that's run things for the last 10 years, and you are worse off than you were 10 years ago.
Canada is the only G7 country where per capita GDP did not increase in the last decade.
The only G7 country where that happened.
Italy, Italy's per capita GDP went up 13% in the last decade.
And Italy is what used to be called the poor man of Europe.
The United States per capita GDP has gone up by almost 22% in the last decade.
So our American cousins, whether it was under Biden or under Trump, and to a little extent under Obama, they've come ahead in the last decade.
Canadians have not.
And that is strictly because of liberal policies.
And I think the Conservatives have to hammer at that again and again and again.
Because if you just say, well, this is a referendum on who'd be better to deal with Trump.
Unfortunately, there's an awful lot of Ontario and Quebec voters and perhaps Atlantic Canadian voters who will say, yeah, well, that'd be that Mark Carney guy.
Never seen him in action, but we're told by all the right media people that he's so great.
Yeah.
It really is amazing.
I tell you, I certainly don't think anyone would have dreamed of this three months ago.
But here we are.
Listen, it's great to catch up with you.
Thanks very much for taking the time.
I'm optimistic.
Guardedly optimistic.
Yeah, I have to be.
Otherwise, it would be tough.
The Pope got out of hospital after five weeks in there for pneumonia.
Maybe the Conservatives can pull this out of that.
Being remote, the God's Ears.
Long Gunter, great to see you again.
You bet.
All right.
Stay with us.
letters to me next hey welcome back Your letters to me on Mark Carney and launching our for Canada campaign.
Joyce Kuttner says, go get him, Ezra.
Liz Truss said a lot about Mark Carnage.
He ruined the British economy, and he will do the same to Canada.
Yeah, Mark Carney is held up by the media class as being this expert know-it-all.
I don't think he is.
Certainly, that wasn't the experience of the Brits for what he did to them.
Parkirk says, Ezra, you are a true Canadian patriot.
I admire your relentless efforts to save Canada.
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I will give what I can to this worthy and righteous fight.
I think this is our last chance.
Well, thanks very much.
You know, it's sort of new to me to set up a campaign group like this.
I don't know if you know, but about 25 years ago, I ran as a political candidate just for a few weeks before I stepped aside for Stephen Harper.
So I did have a political past.
I'm talking when I was 29 years old, and it was super fun.
So it's sort of like old times getting back into it now.
Fancy Nancy says, I just made my donation.
You guys must put some screenshots from his book on that billboard where he says the West is morally rotten.
Hey, that is a great idea.
Thank you very much for that.
We're just gearing up.
We're just giving her.
This is really day one.
Yesterday was sort of day zero of the campaign.
It's day one.
Expect to see a lot more of us in the weeks ahead.
That's our show for today.
Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.