Sheila Gunn-Reid and Chris Sims critique Mark Carney’s "hidden carbon tax" plan, embedding costs in supply chains to avoid consumer visibility—Alberta households already pay $440 extra for heating this winter, with taxes rising April 1st. Carney’s $2T transition estimate (vs. Canada’s $1.2T debt) and globalist climate pressures, like the G-Fans alliance, aim to ground 80% of Canada’s oil while subsidizing wind/solar. Rebel News’ independence from Trudeau contrasts with CTF’s legal battles against carbon taxes and pay hikes for MPs amid economic strain. Gunn-Reid warns Carney’s policies could restrict daily life—like driving or travel—while elites evade accountability, calling his influence a threat to ordinary Canadians’ freedoms. [Automatically generated summary]
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April 1st is April Fool's Day and the jokes on Canadians with a carbon tax hike.
I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
It is unfathomably cold outside right now in Alberta.
I'm actually quite surprised that we're not getting our seasonal, hey, don't plug in your car to keep the block heater working because we don't have enough electricity on the grid warnings that we get in winters gone by thanks to the early phase out of coal-fired generation on our electricity grid.
Thanks, NDP.
And in the middle of all of this, while it is expensive to just stay alive here in Canada, the Liberals are jacking up the carbon tax on April 1st.
Now, one of the reasons we have a carbon tax is the prospective new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Mark Carney.
He's a global bankster who's been pushing for a global carbon tax, and he's been in the ear of Justin Trudeau, at least officially, for the last half decade.
And he says now, oh, our highly unpopular carbon tax, we're doing away with the consumer version of this.
We're going to hide it in other ways.
And joining me today is my friend, Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation to explain exactly how that's going to happen.
Take a listen.
So joining me now is a good friend of the show, my personal good friend, Chris Sims, and best friend to the struggling Canadian taxpayer.
It's Chris Sims, the Alberta director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
Chris, thanks for joining me on this bitterly cold Alberta day.
First thing I want to talk about is how the weather in Alberta is going to get even more expensive going forward on April 1st, despite the fact that the reason it's going to get more expensive is one of the most unpopular policies of the Trudeau Liberals over the last 10 years.
And that's saying something.
Big time.
Big time.
So I don't like using this word often because governments use it to manipulate people, but we're kind of in an emergency right now.
If you like lower taxes, less waste, and smaller, more accountable government.
And we're in an emergency right now because the mainstream media and the governing set, as I often call them, that usually live between Quebec and Windsor in that corridor, they are currently so distracted by the Trump tariffs that they are not paying close enough attention to what the heck is going on in Ottawa and also within the liberal leadership race.
So number one, you're right.
It is so flipping cold here.
Here in Lethbridge this morning, it was minus 42 with the wind chill.
And I'm one of those people that factors in the windchill because it's windy.
Yeah, that's what it feels like.
So that's what I'm going to dress for.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yesterday, my front door was frozen solid.
I couldn't get to let my kids out to go to the bus after they were all like bundled up like they were going to find a taunt on somewhere.
Oh, that's cool.
You guys have the buses running.
I just have not been.
So I shouldn't complain.
At least the school buses are still running.
They're tough.
And so this morning, again, it is super cold.
It's in the minus 40s with the wind.
Even without the wind, it's minus 30.
So all that saying, if we didn't heat our homes and warm up our trucks and dress for it, we would die.
It's that cold.
But this federal government, the Trudeau slash liberal government, is punishing all of us with the carbon tax for the sin of staying alive.
On average, the average Alberta household this winter, Sheila, is going to have to cough up more than $440 extra just in the carbon tax, just on their home heating.
Which brings me to now.
The problem that's happening right now with the narrative weavers that are coming out of Toronto and Ottawa, and we've all got to team up on them, okay, to push this back, is that they are saying things like, oh, the carbon tax is over.
The carbon tax isn't a thing anymore.
No, it is.
The carbon tax is still here.
The carbon tax is going up on April 1st.
And this guy, who's leading the liberal leadership race, loves carbon taxes.
And I don't know how much you want me to get into this book, but it was like my hair was being set on fire.
This guy is a carbon tax zealot.
And he's only going to hide the one that we're paying now on our home heating bills.
And then he's going to crank it up so that we're all paying more.
We're just not being able to see it.
And also, he's going to slap us with a carbon tax tariff, if you can believe it.
And this third thing that nobody's talking about yet, you were mentioning it to me before the camera started rolling.
And thank God you covered this stuff.
Carney's pushing for personal carbon emission budgets for individuals and businesses.
It's all here in his crazy book.
So I'm super alarmed right now when it comes to people being able to afford the necessities of life in Canada.
And in particular, this guy's plan for the carbon tax.
Yeah, I don't take his all of a sudden come to Jesus moment on consumer carbon taxes as even remotely sincere.
I actually find it even less sincere than his honesty in his book or at his prior Senate committee appearances because what he's doing now by saying, oh, we're getting rid of the consumer carbon tax.
Oh, okay.
So you're going to hide it in upstream emissions at the source, which only gets passed down to the consumer.
They just don't get the courtesy of being able to read it on their gas bill anymore.
It'll be hidden like the carbon tax is on your milk or on your clothes or on anything that needs to be grown.
So on your food at the grocery store, anything that needs to be transported.
You currently have that carbon tax hidden there because it's added at every point of the supply chain.
Carney's solution to the fact that you're looking at your gas bill and saying, oh, I only paid $50 in gas, but why the hell do I have $120 in carbon tax here?
He's going to make sure that you don't even have that clarity so that you can hold the people forcing it on you responsible.
He's going to hide it upstream.
Nailed it.
So right now, if we go to the gas station and we fill up our pickup truck, okay, and it costs us right now over $20 extra in the carbon tax.
As of April 1st, no fooling, it'll be about $25 extra.
You need to do the math for that.
Okay, so when you get your receipt spat out of the machine or whatever, typically, maybe some pumps do, but typically it does not show you the carbon tax charge.
You need to do some backwards calculations there.
But to this point, the current carbon tax, as it exists right now in time and space with the Trudeau government, the rates are on the government website.
You can just Google it, carbon tax by fuel type, and look down, see how much it is, do the math.
So you can figure out, okay, right now the carbon tax is 18 cents per liter.
My pickup truck holds about 120 liters per fill-up.
We do the math.
That's how we're able to calculate this stuff.
And you're right.
On a home heating bill or here in Alberta where our energy, our power, our lights stay on because of natural gas, okay, we do usually see it broken down on the bill.
And that's, to your point, that's when it gets disgusting.
Because we'll see that we've used 50 bucks worth of natural gas and we're getting about $100 extra with the carbon tax.
Carney doesn't like that.
Okay?
That's his only problem with the carbon tax.
And he said so.
He doesn't see it.
Exactly.
He said so out loud with his face when he did his rip-roaring announcement in Halifax and everybody fell asleep.
Folks cannot be asleep on this.
He did.
Oh my gosh, Sheila.
He's more boring than Michael Ignatiev.
I know.
I know.
And I don't feel, I think the slogan sticks to that he didn't come back for us.
You know, that was the slogan for Michael Ignatieff.
He didn't come back for us.
I feel like that's the same slogan with Mark Carney.
I don't even know if he has a house in Canada or like a primary residence in Canada.
I'm going to ask you because I actually don't know either.
And you do more digging on this stuff.
Like, does he have a house?
No.
I don't know.
Where do your kids go to school?
Mark Carney.
These are great questions.
What a clown show.
This is a clown show.
So the idea of letting him off the hook on the carbon tax is madness.
If you folks are listening to this and you're struggling to make ends meet now and pay your bills because of the carbon tax, this dude loves carbon taxes.
Oh, I forgot the other one.
It's the carbon tax tariff thing.
Yeah.
So can I get into that?
It's kind of wonky.
It's crazy.
Okay.
So I've had this explained to me by smart pants like Franco, who has two degrees, including an economics degree, although he doesn't like me telling people that, so keep it a secret.
So he explained this to me.
So Carney loves carbon taxes, not just because it pulls in more money.
And this is, I would say, the problem, okay?
As C.S. Lewis pointed out, God rest his soul, the problem is those who are punishing you for the sake of your own good in their mind, that we could live with robber barons because they would occasionally take a night off.
Not so for the folks who have moral principles attached to things like carbon taxes.
Carney has moral principles attached to carbon taxes.
And I'm not making that up.
It's literally called values, okay?
Like, go read it for yourselves.
The problem here is that Carney rightly points out: hey, a lot of other countries aren't as good as Canada.
And they don't have carbon taxes.
And I think that's bad.
That is a failure for them to do so.
Bad other countries.
So when we import their stuff, okay, imagine a piece of agricultural machinery coming from the United States, for example, which does not have a carbon tax, or from another country that doesn't have a carbon tax.
When we import their stuff, Kearney will put a carbon tax tariff on that stuff in his mind to punish that bad country for not having a carbon tax and leveling the playing field.
The problem here is that he's leveling it up like this for cost for you.
So he wants to make all of the stuff we import from other countries that don't have carbon taxes more expensive for Canadians to buy.
So this is a triple whammy from him when it comes to this carbon tax.
You know, the left might wake up on this issue when their avocado and toast costs $30 because we don't grow avocados here.
The problem is it makes certain foods out of touch, out of the price range of everyday Canadians.
Like we saw a report where people in the far north are experiencing rates of scurvy because of the cost of food up there.
And the cost of food up there is directly driven by the carbon tax.
And then so now, what?
So you can't afford oranges in Kalawit because Mark Carney has put a carbon tariff on them over and above the cost to get fresh produce up there.
I mean, think about how this will drive food insecurity for the poor.
And the only people who can afford it are the rich dudes like Mark Carney with his $2,000 ugly, ugly looking shoes.
Like those, I describe them as something they would sell to the Hudray girls down at the UFA because they look just plain, perfectly plain, good ankle support, but two grand, no, $40, please.
Thanks.
Otter Red girls.
I love thoughterate girls here too.
I love the practical girls.
This is what their shoes look like.
Yeah, because they need to go muck out the chicken barn.
Like, that's why.
Yeah.
So to your point, I, I don't know, I was a masochist last week.
So I wrote a few op-eds on Carney and I dug into his book and I dug into his background.
And to your point, exactly, I'm going to get right into it.
Jim Jordan's Take on Renewables00:13:16
I don't care.
Please do.
It's really flipping easy for someone who makes the kind of money that he is paid to not give a flying fox fig about how much it costs the rest of us to go get groceries.
I'll put it this way.
Mark Carney, one of his most recent gigs, was the governor of the Bank of England.
Okay.
While he was there back in the day, this is before 2020, so I'm not adjusting for inflation, he was paid more than $800,000 per year, Sheila, plus a $450,000 housing allowance.
It even made the British press, and they're not used to squawking about salary rates that often.
They're usually pretty sleepy on that stuff.
They flipped out on how much that guy was making.
Pretty hard to hear the cries of the average working man through those ermine earmuffs.
Major problem here.
Yeah, I mean, and this is not just us in Canada sounding the alarm bells on this.
In fact, while Mark Carney was an advisor to Justin Trudeau, by the way, we should stop and remind people: all the bad things that we've lived through in the last five years, the COVID out-of-control spending, the carbon tax, the escalation on carbon tax, the DEI nonsense.
That was Mark Carney in the ear of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
He was the COVID recovery advisor, and then he was most recently the de facto finance minister, getting, by the way, skirting ethics laws by being the advisor to the leader of the Liberal Party, who happens to be the prime minister, instead of being the advisor to the prime minister.
Because if you were the advisor to the prime minister, you would be subject to ethics laws, and then we'd have to know what he was doing at his little networks of businesses, including the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero.
So that is what Mark Carney's been up to for the last little bit with the help of the United Nations.
And basically, if you think there's going to be a change in lanes about nation-building energy projects like a revived version of Energy East, as if you could get a company to invest in something like that with the Liberals or Mark Carney in power.
But there's no hope for something like that when you have a leader like Mark Carney at the helm of the Liberals, because G-Fans, what that worked to do was to de-insure and de-bank large-scale energy projects.
So if they, for some strange reason, made it around the regulatory process, which is onerous and almost impossible to achieve, then, oh, we would pressure the banks with DEI Sustainable Development Goals nonsense to make sure that they never insured or financed your project.
So that's what he's been up to.
And the Americans have been onto his little scam for quite a long time.
I think it was Jim Jordan.
The U.S. House Committee grilled Kearney on these little climate coalitions back in June of 2024, June 7th.
And it was Jim Jordan because he said that G-Fans appears to facilitate collusion that may violate U.S. antitrust laws.
This is all, I have to stress for people listening.
I know times are tough and you don't want to waste your money on a book that you may not like to read.
But please take what Sheila's saying here super seriously.
And if I could please call up the tax fighter army, do your best to reach out to mainstream media.
Please be polite.
Okay, this is all part of the game.
Okay, trust me.
Please push back on mainstream media when you hear them say things like the carbon tax is over or that's not an issue anymore or Carney's going to get rid of the carbon tax.
Correct them.
Correct them.
It is not true that Carney is going to get rid of the carbon tax.
This guy believes in this, lock, stock, and barrel.
If I can divert a little bit, it's still in the same realm, okay?
But with the carbon tax, so quite often people will hear from these big globalist type people, these central planning type people, about net zero, okay, and the deadline for net zero.
The reason why Carney believes in personal carbon emissions budgets, as he calls them, is that he believes sincerely from the sounds of it in this book in this hard deadline for net zero or the planet is going to burn up.
Yeah.
Like clear and present in his mind.
So he's going a little bit further than I've even heard other liberal politicians go.
And this is in connection with, you know how the Trudeau government wants to ban the sale of gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles in 10 years?
So over the next decade, they're going to be powering down the sales of normal cars and trucks and forcing people to buy new EVs 100% by 2035.
That'll come really fast, folks, because 10 years goes by like that.
Carney, the language in here is very slick, so you have to kind of put your interpreter ears on.
Carney sees the vehicles and furnaces, machines, as he calls them, that use fossil fuels, as he says.
He sees those ones that we already own, that are in our driveways, in our basements, keeping our house warm.
He sees those as debits against those budgets.
He's eyeing the things you already own that use gasoline, diesel, and natural gas.
He doesn't come right out and say it out loud with his face that he wants to seize them and ban them, but the language in here is super eyebrow raising.
To your point on people investing in the energy sector and trying to get him to cough up something about like an Energy East type of a pipeline, he says 80% of our oil and gas has to stay in the ground.
Yeah.
80.
Yeah.
This is not happening here, people.
So like I'm really calling on everybody, because as Elon Musk says on X, we're the media now.
Everybody needs to do a full court press to grab this titanic narrative of the Eastern media and turn it, turn it back to things like affordability and the carbon tax.
We can't get just distracted by the huge noise coming out of Washington.
Yeah, and we, you know, we can't let Kearney rewrite his own history.
In 2021, he told Pierre Polyev in committee, yes, canceling Northern Gateway was the right environmental and financial decision.
Oh, for whom?
For him?
As he invests in pipelines in the UAE and Brazil, perhaps, but not for the rest of us, and particularly Albertans, who would have got world market access instead of a pipeline to the west coast of British Columbia that sends oil to refineries in Washington.
He invests in other pipelines overseas.
Oh, Brazil and UAE.
Yeah.
Didn't know that.
Yeah, I'll send you the clip, my friend.
And the stuff that Carney is in trouble with in the United States, like the things that Carney does in Canada would be, are illegal in the United States.
And that's why they grilled him.
So just to explain, in the U.S., antitrust law favors competition over collusion.
Protecting the free market, if you can believe it.
This means that even the largest money managers, Carney, cannot collude, especially if their collusion reduces the production of affordable energy.
So that means that pressuring banks to commit to net zero would increase the cost of affordable energy in the United States.
And that's why G-Fans drew the ire of Jim Jordan.
Okay.
See, this is why I love your show.
Because even when I'm on it, I learn something.
I had not made that connection yet.
So, like, this is the thing.
And to your point on affordability and them trying to debank people and like, you know, get banks away from oil and gas and energy, affordable energy.
He also points out in this book that he wants all oil and gas to be replaced by renewables.
And I think what he means by renewables is just wind and solar.
I haven't gotten there yet.
He might, to be fair.
But I haven't yet read that he considers nuclear, like big can-do reactors, what we need in Canada.
I don't know if he considers nuclear to be renewable.
But the notion that we need to switch all of the stuff that we have right now, which powers our vehicles, which powers our homes, all of this stuff, all over to wind and solar, while, and he points out he wants to subsidize it, meaning taxpayers pay for it.
Right.
Like, it's wild, Sheila.
I was speaking with Dan McTaig, and he sent me a report from RBC.
RBC, Royal Bank of Canada, estimates that in order to switch everything to renewables and electrify everything, which is another term he uses in here, Canada would need to spend $2 trillion.
To give you perspective, we are currently $1.2 trillion in debt nationally.
And that's what Trudeau has doubled in the last nine years.
But RBC, obviously a very serious financial institution that knows how to do math and stuff, is saying that Canada would need to spend $2 trillion to electrify everything with what they consider to be renewables.
So this is still a taxpayer issue because he wants governments to pay for these renewables, meaning us taxpayers.
So we don't have $2 trillion to spare.
Sorry, I need to point that out.
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You know, and so maybe it's not nuclear that he's talking about.
Maybe it's biofuels.
And so if you use arable land to produce biofuels instead of food, that does two things.
It drives up the cost of energy.
There's an extra course at secondstreet.org where people, they ask the question, what if we kept it all on the ground, so to speak, as the activists say?
How much would that cost and what would it do to the land?
That was a little part that I hadn't thought about.
If you use up arable land to build, to make and grow biofuels, okay, stuff you're going to burn as a fuel, you're going to be displacing food production is what farmers are telling us.
So this is not a simple issue.
And again, this gets back to the entire premise of this, okay?
He calls it values.
The front is literally the planet with scaffolding around it, like rebuilding it as he wants it to be.
This is the problem that central planners and big government types get into.
They think that they can just take the planet and play SimCity with it, and it won't harm anyone.
And they can decide what to do with their lives.
People have trouble managing their own lives.
Individuals and families.
Our lives as human beings are so complicated.
The idea that one person can figure out how to run the lives of a billion people is really quite startling.
These people have a God complex.
Capital Gains Controversy00:09:19
And I think that's why they have, this is just me being going off on a tangerine, as David Menzies would say.
They have a God complex.
And so that's why they're so anti-religion, anti-Christianity, anti-people of faith, is because those people have an understanding of a higher power that isn't the likes of Mark Carney or the government.
I could talk to you about how awful Mark Carney is forever.
And I have to remember, once we go off air, I'll send you that clip of him talking about the Northern Gateway pipeline because it's a butte and I think he wants it down the memory hole.
Now, not only on April 1st are we getting a hike in the carbon tax, but as is the case with our parliamentary friends.
I wanted to end on this because it makes me really mad and I didn't want to start off this way.
So remember how the government locked you down a few years ago and people lost their jobs and their salaries were clawed back and their businesses failed and some folks even had their bank accounts frozen because they got too chirpy at the government.
Remember all those times?
Members of parliament, MPs that work in Ottawa federally, have not missed one pay hike.
That entire time where people were really struggling hard, they all got their pay raises on time.
And it's grotesque that it happens on the same day that the carbon tax goes up.
So on April 1st, because it's the start of a new fiscal year, that's when the carbon tax goes up.
That's when the beer and alcohol taxes goes up.
And this is when parliamentary pay goes up.
So right now, Sheila, the average backbencher, I mean a benchwarmer, like their heads are hitting the curtains, they get to talk twice a year.
They're being paid $200,000 per year.
Totally sick.
All of the perks you can imagine.
Sick.
Travel, three hot meals a day, pretty M's, you name it, okay?
Like they're.
And while they're campaigning right now for their preferred candidate of choice, they're also getting paid.
So parliament's prorogue.
They flowing into their bank accounts, no problem.
So the average, a backbench MP with no portfolio, as they say, 200 grand.
They're getting a pay hike worth thousands of dollars happening on April 1st.
Cabinet ministers, so you see these ones that are scurrying around that are campaigning for their next liberal leader, they're paid $300,000.
Okay?
The prime minister is paid around $400,000.
Now are we starting to understand why they don't seem to understand why half of us are broke and how 50% of people are struggling to pay the bare minimum on their credit card bills and keep the lights on, which is an actual stat.
50% of Canadians are in that boat right now.
So this is where it needs to go through to all politicians, frankly.
We need to see prominent members of parliament and party leaders stand up in front of a bunch of cameras and microphones and say, this pay hike is wrong.
I refuse it.
And if somehow it is being forced upon me, I'm going to deduct the entire amount of this pay raise and give it to charity.
Pick your charity.
Wounded warriors, boys and girls club, food banks, whatever.
They need to do that, frankly.
We need to see some leadership here because this is nonsense.
Now, I don't want to end on this note.
I actually want to end on the successes of the taxpayer army, as you called it.
And that would be on the capital gains tax.
Tell us what happened here and how our friends at the CTF were able to mobilize Canadians to put pressure on government and bureaucrats to, at least for the time being.
Thank you so much.
I'd love to end on a good note.
So this is because of our supporters.
There are a handful of us who are the directors and the talkers and stuff, but it's because of our tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of supporters across Canada that get in the arena.
They send the emails.
They make the phone calls.
They make donations.
They do wonderful things.
They phone talk radio.
Okay.
This is what we mean when we say the taxpayer army.
So what had happened was this.
The Trudeau Liberals were going to increase the capital gains tax.
Capital gains tax kicks you in the face whenever you sell something the government considers to be capital.
And this doesn't just affect the daddy Warbuckses of the world who do stock market change.
No.
My father-in-law was a longtime heavy-duty mechanic.
He ran his own business.
So if he had a big piece of equipment, he doesn't anymore, but if he had a big piece of equipment that was worth a lot of money, like a parts washer or like a fabricator for metal, something like that, and he sold it, the government would consider that to be a capital game and tax him for it.
How dare you be productive?
Right.
I'll put this closer to home.
You're a farmer and you've structured your farm as a corporation and you're buying or selling farm equipment.
You're moving hay, selling hay, or for that matter, it acts as an inheritance tax.
So you want to pass your farm along to one of your children or subdivide to fairly distribute your assets between your children before your untimely demand.
Exactly.
Thank you.
So when you hear somebody say, again, some politician making 300 grand with all their expenses pay out loud at their face, this is only affecting people with yachts.
Shut up.
No, it's not.
This is affecting normal working people all the time.
So what had happened was this.
The Trudeau government was going to hike up that amount of tax, that capital gains tax.
But then everything went sideways because they prorogued, blah, blah, blah.
So that tax hike had not gone through parliament yet, hadn't gone through the House of Commons, hadn't gone through the Senate, hadn't been stamped by the Governor General, the representative of King Charles III.
None of those things had happened.
But the CRA went ahead with the tax hike anyway.
It was astonishing.
I was actually surprised.
It's crazy.
I am super unimpressed with this government all the time, but I was still surprised.
So they still hiked it up.
And that's when the Taxpayers Federation was like, no, no taxation without representation.
That's not just a cool slogan or a principle.
It's in our constitution.
Okay.
Yeah, these are getting functional, okay?
Like countries have been formed over these things.
So we're like, we don't think so.
So the Taxpayers Federation was taking the government to court.
We're like, not today.
We're fighting you right now.
We're taking you to court because this is completely unconstitutional.
And our in-house lawyer, who's also our Atlantic director, said so.
So Franco and Devin, Devin Drover, they all went to Ottawa.
They had a huge press conference on a Monday.
They said, we're going to court.
We will fight you tooth and nail on behalf of taxpayers.
And it was at the end of that week that they said, you know what?
Maybe we shouldn't do this anymore.
We're canceling the carbon tax increase, the rather capital gains tax increase.
So that is a huge win from our supporters at the Taxpayers Federation because they all threw in on this.
They're like, hell yes, fight them now.
We can't put up with this.
This is a line not to be crossed.
And so we made the government back down for now.
I will point out for now, they're delaying this tax hike.
They didn't announce they were scrapping it.
They're kicking the can ahead until after the election.
So we have got to stay on them like a dog on a bone.
But for now, we have a reprieve.
If you're, God forbid, your parent passes away and you get their property, you aren't paying that extra amount of the inheritance/slash capital gains tax when you sell the property.
It's just unfathomable that out-of-control bureaucrats thought they had the right to do this to Canadians.
Nobody elected them to anything.
From my perspective, everybody involved in that should have been fired because what a gross misunderstanding of your role as basically a placekeeper, somebody to maintain whatever broken system we have in between elections and just not act to do things on their own.
Just that's there's your permanent government.
When people wonder what Trump means by the swamp or permanent government, this is exactly what we mean.
The deep state.
Yeah, this is the deep state right there where they just tax, they tax you without even anything going before parliament.
Chris, tell us how people get involved in the highly effective tax army of you want to join up and I encourage you to do so, even if you can't make a donation.
That's totally okay.
You can join for free.
You can stay for free forever.
It's totally fine.
You're still part of the taxpayer army.
And I'm encouraging you to do this because, one, it's very effective and we get results like this.
Okay.
We save people like millions of dollars.
Okay.
Big deal.
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Two, for yourself.
I know it's hard right now.
Okay.
I hear from family and friends all the time.
I hear from supporters all the time.
It is rough out there and it can get you down.
So if you're part of our taxpayer army, you get really happy warrior emails like jazzing you up, right?
And it makes you feel a sense of fellowship.
Yeah.
It gives you this purpose of, damn it, we can fight them.
And we will and we can and we do.
So go to our website, taxpayer.com, go to the petitions link, sign stuff that speaks to you, like capital gains tax, like no home equity tax, like defund the CBC, like scrap the carbon tax, like stop the gun ban.
All of these things, if that's what gets you up in the morning, man, sign that petition and now you're part of that battalion of the army.
And you'll hear from us like all the time.
Yeah.
And you'll be told how you can do something.
You know, like that's the thing.
You can start to feel helpless because it's just coming at you from all directions.
You're looking in your bank account and you're like, oh, food is more expensive.
Going to work is more expensive.
Heating my house is more expensive.
You want to save a little bit of money.
You want to treat the kids to something once in a while.
And you can feel like there's no hope or end in sight and that nothing you do can affect any sort of change.
And sometimes it just, it's helpful to just feel like you're doing something.
One foot in front of the other.
That's how you move forward for sure.
Yeah.
It's good for your brain.
Good for your soul to stand up and just these little acts of resistance every single day.
Chris, thanks so much for coming on the show.
Thanks so much for taking the time, all the time, to fight for taxpayers and families just like mine.
It means a lot to us.
Thank you, Sheila.
I'm going to have the show very, very soon.
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I actually am taking comments from the YouTube comment section on last week's show, also about Mark Carney with my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.
And just because of Carney's climate zealotry, he's been on the radar of Friends of Science for a very long time with his, you know, carbon credit schemes wherein he enriches himself while you suffer.
So first comment is from L V I N Q 8E who says, why is this unelected install WEF Carney telling Canadians what to do?
Well, isn't that the thing?
You see, he's been telling Canadians what to do for a very long time because he is part of the Liberal Party Brain Trust.
And so, as I said on the live stream the other day, Justin Trudeau's head is just an empty bucket.
And the unelected oligarchs of the world just pour those bad ideas into his brain.
Largely, that's coming from the World Economic Forum.
And Mark Carney is the epitome of Davos, man.
And he has, as I said to my friend Chris Sims today, advised Justin Trudeau on the overspending of the COVID catastrophe in the financial system.
And then he's been the most recent overspender, acting as the de facto finance minister for the country.
And he's been pushing carbon taxes here and abroad and DEI nonsense and sustainable development goals onto banks.
So if you're wondering why we are, in some instances, this far from an official social credit system in this country.
And I think in some ways we already have a social credit system in this country.
It's Mark Carney.
Romsley writes, what an unenergetic climate clown.
You know what?
He is the epitome of energy vampire.
He doesn't bring a lot of energy to the table when he's talking.
And so even if you approach what he's saying with enthusiasm, you leave it feeling like you've just been on a 40-day fast where you don't have any energy stores left in your body.
You've metabolized all your muscle out of desperation.
That's what he does to the psyche of people.
It's quite compelling from a sinister standpoint because he's bored you to death.
You don't even have the will to object energetically to his bad ideas because your energy is just completely gone.
I watch Mark Carney knowing that I should be angry at the things that he's saying, but at the end of it, I'm just like, ah, I need a cup of coffee and a sleep.
It's just a crazy thing that he does.
Intensely boring, but sinister in his lack of charisma.
Dale Lucas, 5135 says, I would love to know what Justin Trudeau's carbon footprint is.
He treats his private jet like a taxi, of course, at our expense.
I wonder if Mark Carney is using Canadian jets at no cost to him.
Well, he just finished, as I'm filming this on Wednesday morning, a bit of a whistle-stop tour of the prairies or Saskatchewan and Winnipeg, I think he hit yesterday.
And he sure as heck wasn't walking.
He wasn't taking an electric vehicle, was he?
Yeah, he's jetting all over this country.
I don't know if he's doing it commercial, but he's definitely first class, if he is, or at least business class.
And yeah, he's not doing it the low-carbon way.
He is rich enough to say, oh, I'll pay for my climate sins by buying carbon credits to offset my carbon emissions, paying tithes to the climate gods, because he can afford that.
And so the rest of us who can't afford that, we just, I guess, we have to be told by that idiot, Mark Holland, that our trips in the minivan are going to kill the planet.
While his boss also tells us to stay home and take road trips at home instead of going to the United States as some sort of misplaced act of jingoistic patriotism against Donald Trump.
Make it, make it make sense.
None of it does.
I can't stand Carney or any liberals, NDP Green, they're done.
I sure hope so.
I hope my fellow Canadians are not swayed by this Mark Carney rebrand of some sort of centrist pragmatist, because he's not.
As Chris says, he's an absolute zealot.
I want people to realize that Carney is Trudeau 2.0 completely.
Carney's also Freeland 2.0 completely.
Carney is not new.
Carney is the Liberal Party.
Carney is their bad ideas.
And it'll be turbocharged, I think.
So, anyway, I see Carney creeping up in the polls.
I just, fellow Canadians, do not let us down.
Vote the way the Westerners vote.
Please for once.
Please, Toronto.
Go hi, Octane, 500 LC says, is Carney going to impose a tax on us inhaling or exhaling?
I'm sorry.
I'm holding my breath.
I mean, really, if you thought that carbon dioxide was a poison on the planet, you'd want fewer people.
Oh, wait, they want that too.
They just don't want fewer of them.
They don't want any fewer global elites.
They want to get rid of us in some sort of act of climate eugenics.
Right?
We're the useless breathers.
And them, though, no, no.
Their carbon emissions, they don't cause the death of the planet.