David Menzies and Sheila Gunread mock National Hat Day while critiquing Mark Carney’s January 16th, 2025, Liberal leadership bid, exposing his ties to Trudeau’s COVID policies, climate agenda, and opposition to the Freedom Convoy. They warn Trump’s 25% auto tariffs could cripple Canada’s export-dependent industry, forcing manufacturers like Ford to relocate, and question why Doug Ford aligns with Trudeau over Trump-favored Pierre Poilievre amid Ontario PC divisions. The Gaza hostage deal—23 of 98 Israeli captives (including dead bodies) for 33 Hamas prisoners—highlights Hamas’ emboldening, fueled by Iran’s terror funding, risking regional instability under a potential Trump administration. Canada’s economic vulnerability and past policy missteps loom as Trump exploits weak federal leadership ahead of elections. [Automatically generated summary]
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
You have tuned in to a special edition of the Rebel News live stream on this, say, Wednesday, January the 15th, 2025.
It's special because normally we're just here Monday and Friday, and that's the only reason it's special for today, Hump Day.
Folks, I'm David Menzies, and my co-host, before I tell you about who my co-host is, let me tell you a little bit about her.
Do you know that today is National Hat Day?
My co-host does not celebrate National Hat Day.
I, on the other hand, celebrate National Hat Day 365 days a year.
Why?
Well, it's because I don't want to scare female CBC reporters.
More on that later.
She is the she-devil with a sword.
She is the Khaleesi of Northern Alberta.
She is the sensational Sheila Gunread.
How you doing, Sheila?
David, I'm doing great.
I have nothing else to say other than if there was a reason for us to have a special live stream, it is that it is National Hat Day so that you and the hat can have your big day.
I never thought of that.
It was a surprise for me.
And by the way, Sheila, even before I knew today was National Hat Day and you've got the text messages to prove it, I reached out to you to get your head size.
And by the way, folks, it's seven and one-eighths, in case you ever want to have it in your heart to give Sheila Gunread a headwear gift.
So I've got a very special hat coming Sheila's way.
I'm frightened next time we meet.
But what I alluded to was not some made-up shtick.
The most oft question I get asked, I think, is what's the deal with the hat?
Some love it, some hate it.
But I'll tell you what the deal is.
During the height of the pandemic, so we're going back to 2020, 2021, I believe it was 2020, the Yahoo Nation, self-described, was protesting every Saturday in front of Queen's Park.
This was really Ford Nation, but the premier, well, he denounced his own base by calling them a bunch of yes.
He's still doing that.
Yes, still doing that.
He's never given up on that.
And there is an island, a traffic island at the south end of Queen's Park Crescent.
And that's where the media typically show up.
And we were filming there, and there was a CBC reporter.
And I looked at her, and she looked at me.
And hand to God, folks, she started running backwards.
I've never seen a woman in high heels run backwards so much.
And she's getting to the edge of the island.
And there's cars coming around Queen's Park Crescent like at Z ⁇ D 500.
So me trying to be chivalrous, I ran over to her and I, you know, grabbed her hand.
I go, whoa, watch out.
You're going to fall off the traffic island.
And she stopped.
And I said, what's happening?
Because I was absolutely mystified, Sheila.
And she said, your hair was blowing in the wind.
It scared me.
You see, this was when all the barber shops were closed down.
Now, full disclosure, I'm not Brad Pitt, but I don't think I'm quite the Frankenstein monster just yet.
Not yet.
So I was so, you know, I don't know, astonished by that comment.
I went to a department store and bought a hat.
What do you think about that on National Hat Day, Sheila Gunread?
I'm ashamed that you have admitted to being bullied by the CBC and having your feelings hurt by the CBC.
Yeah, I remember those times.
You had a bit of a Rex Murphy newfro going on.
Ginger Newfro.
So I just got accustomed to it and I wasn't so much bullied.
I would call it something that the left and the CBC always campaign against.
Body shaming.
But I guess they don't practice what they preach.
Funny the left would do something like that.
Do you know, I am going through these potential candidates for the Liberal Party of Canada leadership, and it is nothing but not practicing what they preach.
Jamie Batiste, you are next.
Then it's Karina Gould.
But we should tell everybody what we're doing here today on this very special live stream.
The reason we're doing this is because there's just so much news coming out about the Liberal Party leadership and with Trump tariffs that it's difficult for us to get to them in reports.
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I should tell you and David that I cannot go late today because I'm running up to meetings and I have to film my weekly gun show today because it's Wednesday and gun show comes out 7 Eastern 9 Mountain.
So I have to get that done so that our friends can edit it and make me look smarter and more articulate than I actually am.
And so got to get prepped for Davos too, Sheila, right?
You'll be there for teeth.
Well, we didn't want to tell anybody, David, but you just told everybody.
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You know, the World Economic Forum is coming up, as David just blabbed to the world.
So anyways, we're not sure how we're going to be covering that, but it is live streamed.
And, you know, it's a strange time.
I remember being at the United Nations Climate Change Conference right after Trump was elected.
And it was like a funeral for those people.
So I imagine the World Economic Forum is going to be a little bit the same, but you know, there are people like Mark Carney and Christopher Freeland, although she hasn't made an official announcement, are potentially running to lead, well, the Liberal Party of Canada and thus become the very, very, very short-lived Prime Minister of Canada until we get the opportunity to send these people packing.
So there's a lot of things talk that we can talk about.
And Sheila, speaking of the Liberal Party of Canada leadership contest, I got to ask you something in passing just to make sure I don't need my hearing examined again.
Did you say Jamie Batiste?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, they're just this guy.
He's the guy who said that skinny Indigenous girls are probably on math.
He also said that with all the squeals and grunting, men's tennis resembles gay pornography.
Now, I've never, I don't watch male tennis or tennis at all for that matter or pornography.
So I'll take Jamie's word for it.
But I mean, this guy is just exactly Jamie.
But anyways, he wants to run to lead the liberals and he's really leaning into his Mi'kmaq indigeneity.
So we'll see how that goes.
But I mean, I tried to be an Also Ran.
Back in 2019 in Atlantic Canada, and he pretty much ran away from me.
And if memory serves me, this is also the guy that goes to the gym and his workout TOGS consists of the hammer and sickle logo.
I mean, why not wear a swastika given the number of deaths under communism?
How does this guy raise, what is it, 300,000, Sheila, for the cost of entry?
350,000.
I guess that remains to be seen.
He could just be an also ran.
We'll see.
But anyways, we've got a more importantly, or I guess more significantly, Mark Carney is set to announce his official intentions tomorrow in Edmonton.
I wonder which of the Randys is resigning to allow him to run in Edmonton Center.
But as the liberals tend to do, they don't like to talk to Canadians.
You know, Justin Trudeau, he canceled all of his Christmas end of the year interviews with the media and they were all boo-hooing because their guy, their sugar daddy, wasn't talking to them.
And then he went and did a series of interviews in the United States.
I don't know, campaigning for the Kamala Harris voters vote.
But Mark Carney is doing the same.
He went on Jon Stewart and talked about how we can be friends with benefits with the United States.
These people just use phrases that gross me out.
Anyway, what are they making up there of the overtures and sort of trolling to Canada about being a part of the United States?
Well, I mean, the bottom line is it's not going to happen.
The overture.
I mean, you don't want it.
You don't want to.
We're proud.
We find you very attractive.
But we're not moving in with you.
It's not you.
It's us.
We have.
We do things a little differently in Canada.
Sure.
We believe in.
I just want to say, before you go any further, I'm up for it.
We're up for it.
Whatever you do differently.
We want to experiment too.
What do you guys want?
I'm grossed out.
You want like we can be friends?
There can be a few benefits, John.
Friends with benefits, but not going to commit all the way.
Benefits of trade, benefits of defense.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we'll be cool about it.
We won't levy tariffs on all your goods as retribution for you not going out with us.
We respect your boundaries.
Sheila, speaking of gay porn, were you picking up a homoerotic vibe in that discussion we just saw?
Let's pretend, just pretend for a second that that wasn't completely scripted.
That was completely scripted.
It wasn't spontaneous and it was just weird.
Like it's just gross.
Again, we've got two people pretending to do comedy while answering seriously to Trump's incessant trolling.
They still don't realize that they are the butt of the joke.
It's exhausting at this point.
Like I explained last week, it's really not about taking us over, about taking us over economically or militaristically.
It's about the fact that Canada is so weak and broken and demoralized and our military is so decrepit and woke.
Our economy's in the crapper that if it were not for the benevolence of our single largest trading partner to the south of us, we could be taken over, not just by the United States, but by anybody.
That's the truth in the joke that nobody else seems to be addressing.
But you know what, Sheila, from a strategic point of view, and I'll apply this to Carney just as I'll apply it to the prime minister.
Why are you going on the Stewart show?
Why are you going on MSNBC LSD?
Why are you going on CNN?
The numbers aren't there.
There's not an audience.
And also, as you can tell by the cheering, you're preaching to the converted.
You do what Doug Ford did.
And I call him as I see him.
So even though Ford is a cosmic disappointment to me as far as being a conservative, when he went on U.S. airwaves, it was Fox News.
Why?
The numbers.
A. B, you are speaking to Trump Nation when you go to Fox News.
Why don't these dummies like Trudeau and Carney realize that?
Because they're not campaigning against Pierre Polyev.
They're campaigning against Trump.
And so if you are campaigning against Trump, where do you go?
You go and talk to the anti-Trump lunatics, the ones that are still in the cult, that still watch the likes of MSNBC, CNN, which is the noise at the doctor's office, or Jon Stewart.
Mark Carney wasn't done, though.
He said that he's an outsider.
An insider.
In the liberal leadership race.
He couldn't be more inside unless you were inside of Trudeau's clothes with him.
Anyways, it's really difficult for a candidate to come in who is saddled with the policies that are on.
But let's say, oh boy, let's say, just throw it out of the way.
While you're trying to preserve the relationship with the money, a wild hypothetical.
Let's say the candidate wasn't part of the government.
Let's say the candidate did have a lot of economic experience.
Let's say the candidate did deal with crises.
Let's say the candidate had a plan to deal with the challenges in the here and now.
Masidiki, you're running as an outsider.
I am an outsider.
Wow.
So you're going to be coming in there to say, I have not been in the government.
I have worked in the financial markets.
You know, Sheila, when he says he's an outsider, when he poses as an agent for change, we know the precise opposite is true.
He's the ultimate insider.
He'd be the same guy that would invoke the Emergencies Act against the Trucker Convoy.
He'd be gung-ho in freezing bank accounts, vaccine mandates, you name it.
You know, it's kind of like maybe you're too young, Sheila, but I remember an ad campaign back in the 70s was for ABC detergent, which was a bit of a bargain brand compared to, say, Tide.
And the tagline was this, because they would wash the clothes in the national leader detergent and ABC detergent, and they'd bring the clothes out.
And the tagline was, can you tell the difference?
I can't tell the difference, meaning they were equally clean.
Well, that's the same with Carney and Trudeau.
I can't tell a difference here.
The guy could not be more of an insider.
I'm sure he sees the inside of the prime minister's office sometimes more than he sees his own house.
Let's go back.
Let's just go back.
He was Justin Trudeau's advisor on COVID.
Not sure where he has a background in medicine, but he was the advisor to the prime minister's office on COVID.
And then he was more recently acting as the de facto finance minister as the economic advisor to the leader of the Liberal Party, which was his way of getting around ethics rules, right?
Because he wasn't technically working for the government.
He was working for the Liberal Party, which means that his equity firms were still able to lobby the government for preferential treatment and access to Canadian pensions.
So he's to say that he's an outsider is crazy.
The only thing that he is outside of is accountability because of these little loopholes that they keep pulling.
He's the unelected finance minister who is technically advising the leader of the Liberal Party and not the prime minister, who happens to be the exact same person.
He also shares all of Justin Trudeau's goals with regard to climate change.
He said that Greta Tunberg, he was part of her movement.
Then he's completely on board with this net zero nonsense.
He's also completely on board with the liberals' treatment of the Freedom Convoy.
He advised the government, or sorry, he published an op-ed, which was like a wink-wink bat signal to the government to do exactly what they ended up doing.
And that was to treat the Freedom Convoy as seditionists and freeze their funds.
He wrote an op-ed saying we need to basically be hunter-killers of the financial supply chain for the Freedom Convoy, which is ultimately what Freeland went on to do.
So to say that he is an outsider would be something only someone as dumb and ill-informed as Jon Stewart would believe.
And Sheila, I want to quickly remind you of something.
You began your rant by saying you don't recall Mark Carney getting a medical degree.
Sheila, don't you know when you're a member of the left, you don't need a medical degree, not when it comes to identifying.
Yes, that's right.
I mean, I discovered that in November outside the Skydome in Toronto when we were doing the Taylor Swift Streeters.
And Taylor Swift the day before had sent out a tweet along with Toronto's now dearly departed, well, not so dearly, departed chief medical health officer, Cruella Davila, urging Torontonians to get their COVID-19 shots and up-to-date boosters.
And of course, the zombies going into the concert all said, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll listen, we'll listen.
And I went, wow, look at that.
Taylor Swift, in addition to being a singer and can play the guitar, she's also a virologist all of a sudden.
So yeah, when you're on the left, you don't need the credentials, Sheila.
I'm sorry to tell you.
But they're the first people to say, but you're not a journalist.
I'm like, well, you know, I have the same journalism degree that Peter Mansbridge has.
So how's that?
Let's go into this next tweet from Patrick Wheeler.
Weiler, I know you're saying the same thing I am.
Who?
And I'm a political watcher, and this is the first time I ever heard of this backbiter.
Seriously, dead serious.
I'm glued to committee.
I am glued to the House of Commons.
So I was going in the background.
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I'm clipping it.
I know all these people backwards and forwards.
And then I was like, what, what?
Who?
Anyways, this, he is the Liberal Member of Parliament for West Vancouver, in case you care.
And he is endorsing Mark Carney, who has not even officially announced yet.
Are you ready for the coronation?
He says, in the hundreds of conversations I've had with constituents in West Vancouver, Sunshine Coast, Sea to Sky Country, one name stands out: Mark Carney.
He has the leadership and experience that Canada needs right now.
And apparently, he's globally respected, understands the challenging geopolitical landscape, and has the economic insight to steer us through the difficulties ahead.
I think his economic insight actually steered us into the difficulties we're now living through, thanks to being in the ear of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Well, you know, a bit of a premature, if you will, endorsement, because as you said, Sheila, he hasn't officially announced and nor nor has Fraudline Freeland.
But on that note, I'd love to throw, because I think super producer Olivia has dredged it up today's front page of the Toronto Sun.
You got to check it out, Sheila.
There you go.
It's the contenders.
They're all in boxing gloves and gym attire.
Sheila, you know what?
You must take back the nasty comments you made on Monday about Freeland.
Look at that baud.
She is fit and trim.
She's in full fighting form.
I mean, come on.
You were very cruel to her on Monday describing her physique and her choice of clothes.
I will take nothing back.
In fact, I will be meaner than ever before.
Yeah, this is kind of silly and nonsensical.
I see Jamie Batiste looking extra happy.
I think he's the only one I know of the bunch that actually goes to the gym.
And you know how we know he goes to the gym?
Because he wears socialist t-shirts at the gym and then posts about it.
You know what?
I just want to see who did take this photo.
Oh, Sheila, now I take it back.
This is not a real photograph.
It's a photo illustration.
That means, as old-timers used to say, trick photography.
They've put Freeland's body and others on real fighters, or sorry, their heads on real fighters' bodies.
So I take it back, Sheila.
We've done that to you in the past.
You know, with your famous the menzoid shirt.
Before we change lanes from the anticipated coronation of Mark Carney, who is set to make an announcement at an undisclosed location tomorrow in Edmonton, somewhere within the riding of Edmonton Center, is my best guess because that Zorandi Bois knows riding and he's going to lose.
He's going to lose.
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So you may as well just sacrifice yourself on the bonfire of liberalism and step aside so Mark Carney can do his best to win.
But I don't even think Mark Carney can win that riding at this point.
We'll change lanes.
Sheila, to tariff.
We should point out, Ezra had a brilliant monologue the other day about this.
Let's say on March 9th, it is indeed Mark Carney, who is now the new liberal leader.
And let's just say we go to the end of October.
They rag the puck that much for the next federal election.
He is basically the prime minister of Canada without a seat, you know, and without being elected.
And incredibly, our Constitution allows that to be a matter of fact.
It's not just an outlandish speculation.
It happened in Alberta not all that long ago with Jim Prentiss.
He was elected the leader of the PCs, but he did not yet have a seat.
And so our premier of the province did not, like he wasn't in the legislature.
So it happens.
And that's just a quirk of our Westminster parliamentary democracy system.
We've got a chat and then we've got a Rumble ad read and then we'll change lanes to tariffs because apparently trying your best to avoid tariffs is anti-Canadian and being like Doug Ford being advertiserial and inviting them, that's pro-Canada.
And it's funny to see who Doug Ford is cozying up to.
He should have been cozying up to Danielle Smith instead he's cozying up to Dominic LeBlanc, big liberal suck up.
But anyways, Billy Howard gives us five bucks and says, if Trump wants to troll Justin, he should discuss international affairs in a meeting with the chairman of the International Democracy Union.
Do you know who that is?
I do.
Sorry, who is it, Sheila?
Who is the chairman of the International Democracy Union?
I don't know.
It's Stephen Harper.
Oh.
So if, yeah, if Trump wanted to severely troll Justin Trudeau, wouldn't it be great if he had a high-level meeting with Stephen Harper?
Who's actually weighed in on this stuff and who is bright enough to be able to articulate what it means to be Canadian besides saying, it means we're not Americans like Justin Trudeau did.
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Doesn't the band Toto have a song called Hold the Line?
Is that song now banned by Ottawa bylaw?
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Yeah, you know, these people are crazy.
Hold the line.
I see like liberals saying we've got to hold the line when we're dealing with Donald Trump.
And it's like, excuse me, that's an illegal phrase.
That's hate speech, jerks.
You know, the honking.
If you honk horns for Palestine, great.
The police will come give you an escort through town.
You honk the horn for freedom, though, and you're slapped with a multi-million dollar lawsuit from the busybodies in Ottawa.
Oh, but Sheila, we know from Yara Sachs, Canada's number one self-hating Jew, that Hong Kong is an acronym, her words, folks, for Heil Hitler.
You're not advocating for Nazism on the streets, are you?
Yara Sachs is going to lose her seat in the most epic and beautiful way.
Couldn't happen to a nicer lady.
She so deserves it.
Okay, let's go to a post from Truth Social from Donald Trump.
Can we bring that post up?
Donald Trump announces the external revenue service to collect tariffs, duties, and revenues from foreign sources.
I'm sorry about your luck, David, but this is coming to you.
For far too long, we have relied on taxing our great people using the internal revenue service.
Through soft and pathetically weak trade agreements, the American economy has delivered growth and prosperity to the world while taxing ourselves.
It's time to change that.
I am today announcing that I will create the external revenue service to collect our tariffs, duties, and all revenue that will come from foreign sources.
We will begin charging those that make money off us with trade, and they will start paying finally their fair share.
January 20th, 2025 will be the birthdate of the external revenue service.
Make America great again.
Well, Sheila, even if those tariffs against Canada come into effect, and I'm still on the fence about that, whether it's true or a negotiating tactic, and we're going to find out, I guess, on Monday afternoon next week.
But from an American perspective, from a Donald Trump perspective, I get it.
When you are having your lunch eaten, NATO is a perfect example.
So many countries, ours included, are deadbeats.
And I know Justin Trudeau said, yeah, we'll get our funding for NATO up to the prescribed amount by, I think it was 2032.
We just have to keep electing them.
No, no, it doesn't work that way, Justin.
So From an American first perspective, I get this.
Sure, yeah, Donald Trump isn't the prime minister of Canada.
He's not supposed to act in our best interest.
He's supposed to act in the best interest of Americans.
And so if that this time he finds himself being in an adversarial position with Canada, I can't fault him for that.
Like, I don't like it.
But that's what he was elected to do.
What would have been great is if we had ever elected a prime minister in the last nine years who felt the same way about Canada, but we just never did.
He was ready to do everything for the rest of the world at the expense of Canadians.
Now, but here's the big question, Sheila, when it comes to is he genuine with these 25% tariffs.
Let's look at the auto sector in Canada, especially in Ontario.
I think we're talking 60 to 70% of the vehicles produced here are destined for U.S. export.
Now, if you were to slap that tariff on them, first of all, the cost for Americans, that vehicle would be uncompetitive with a 25% uptick on the sticker.
But also logistically, if you had Ford saying, oh, okay, then, well, we better build them domestically, that cannot happen overnight.
You know, I mean, I pick Ford because we did that corrective video about the Oakville plant, which is being retooled right now to make the very profitable and very desirable Ford F-250 super duty pickup trucks.
And the Ford USA spokesman told me, Sheila, because the tariff thing was just 48 hours old at that time.
He said, Dave, it doesn't matter about the tariffs because there's two other plants in the U.S. that build those pickup trucks.
They're running around the clock.
They are at capacity.
You can't add capacity.
So what I'm saying is that if Ford was to build a new, a third F-250 plant, well, you can't do that overnight, Sheila.
Yeah, I think maybe it's the auto parts sector that might be hit by this.
I really don't know.
But if you look at Dominic LeBlanc, he doesn't know what to do either.
Dominic LeBlanc, who is, I think, acting a bit like, I guess, the everything minister right now.
I think he might, I think, and it's a problem that we don't even know, but I think he might be the deputy prime minister right now.
I don't know.
He's the finance minister replacing Christia Freeland, who dropped that atomic bomb on Justin Trudeau when she quit, resigned.
He tried to fire her, and she's like, you can't fire me.
I resign.
Anyway, Dominic LeBlanc, Justin Trudeau's babysitter, figuratively and literally, says that all options are on the table, including cutting off Alberta's oil and gas to the United States, which we sell at a reduced rate to them because we're shoehorned into a monopoly thanks to the liberals not allowing us to build export pipelines.
But Dominic LeBlanc is a ruddy-faced moron because it's not his oil and gas to stop selling to the United States.
This is completely undermining the efforts of Premier Daniel Smith to at least pull one sector of the Canadian economy out of the fire.
So Sheila specifically national immunity crisis if energy exports were on the table.
So is your government in any way considering the restriction of oil from Alberta to the United States?
So what we've said is that the only responsible thing for the national government is to acknowledge that all options are on the table.
But at what point do you deploy what option, at what level?
Obviously, we want to see what the American action is next week, if it comes next week.
So I've been hanging around politics long enough to know that hypothetical questions are like big bear traps that you can fall into.
That feels like one.
But I think as the, I'm too big to land in a bear trap, Doug and I would.
So I think we need to be ready to deploy all of the measures necessary to defend the Canadian economy, but we're not going to publicly speculate what is or what isn't an option.
Let's see what the Americans do next week, and let's work with premiers and business leaders to find the best response for Canada.
Yeah, so what an unfortunate surname, Sheila, LeBlanc, because it sounds like he's shooting a lot of LeBlancs right now.
And as we discussed on Monday, the sad reality is, if we get into a trade war with the U.S., if we go tariff for tariff, this country at less than one-tenth the size of the U.S. is going to lose and we're going to lose badly.
So, you know, hopefully, you know, I just wonder, and I'd love to just see the left lose their marbles about this.
Team Trump knows that this is a lame duck federal government.
They read the polls just like everybody else does, Sheila.
Why not have Pierre Polyaff come down to Mar-a-Lago and have an adult discussion?
I mean, first of all, can you imagine the left in Canada going out of their mind by what they would call something that's inappropriate?
But let's not kid the kidders here.
He's going to be, by all likelihood, by all indicators, the next prime minister.
That's who I would want to talk to if I'm President Trump.
What say you, Sheila?
I mentioned this earlier, but do you see what Doug Ford is doing here?
Like he always does, cozying up with the liberals.
My friend Justin, my friend Christia, now it's his friend Dominic LeBlanc.
And I noticed yesterday he was bad mothing Premier Daniel Smith.
Yep.
Doug Ford, if you had a couple of brain cells to rub together, you should have been down there with her.
She could have been the relationship broker that sort of built at least an open line of communication between Doug Ford and the Trump administration.
Trump very clearly likes Premier Daniel Smith.
The Western governors all like her.
She's making inroads with regard to energy.
And she started that like the second Trump was elected.
Doug Ford did not do that.
He doesn't have any foresight on this issue.
And he's cozying up to the people that Trump doesn't like.
A lot of times it just comes like Trump's foreign policy sometimes comes down to, do I like you or do I not?
And right now, Trump does not like the Trudeau liberals.
So why is Doug Ford affiliating himself with the Trudeau liberals instead of doing everything he can to distance himself from the dumpster fire that Trump doesn't like and they don't like him?
You know, Sheila, that is an excellent question.
And I defer to the only answer that makes sense from some of the insiders I've spoken to, which is to say, and it's disgraceful, if you ask me, but the Doug Ford people with the Ontario Progressive Conservatives do not like, very much do not like the Pierre Polyev federal conservative people.
So there's warring factions.
And I would say if I could get them all in a room, come on, guys.
We're all supposed to be conservatives here.
Well, I know that's a stretch goal, as Kathleen Wynne would say with Doug Ford.
But seriously, let's determine who the real enemy is and get rid of all this internal bickering.
I don't understand why Doug Ford wouldn't want to do a little bit of learning from the federal conservatives who have, in a very short matter of time, two short years, turned the party around from a party that lost a very winnable election to the party that is going to absolutely smash the liberals into dust.
Why wouldn't Doug Ford say, man, we can stand to learn a little something from those people there?
But he's not.
He's not.
I don't know why he's cozying up to losers.
And you know what?
Sheila, it doesn't have to be conjecture for him.
If anyone is aware of a quick political turnaround, it is, drum roll, please, Doug Ford.
We go back to January 2018 when Patrick Brown was forced out amidst scandal and the knowledge that this is not going to be the guy to win as a majority government in Ontario because first he threw the social conservatives under the bus.
Then he threw the fiscal conservatives under the bus.
And basically, that's everybody.
So in January, he was dismissed.
Keep in mind, the election is June, less than six months away.
By March, the Ontario PCs had their new leader, Doug Ford, and he went on to win a supermajority and then another supermajority.
So what I'm saying, Sheila, is that you shouldn't need to sell this to Doug Ford of all people.
Doug Ford was happy to pick up those social conservatives and then throw them to the wolves also.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, you just, if there are, there are a couple of things you cannot trust in this country.
It's anything that comes out of Justin Trudeau's mouth and Doug Ford's PCs.
God only knows what you're going to get out of them.
Doug Ford's what did you say?
PCs.
Progressive conservatives.
Oh, okay.
I thought you said another kind of naughty word.
Anyway.
No, I leave those sort of things up to you.
Hey, you're the one that brought up Gay Porn earlier, Sheila, not me.
No, I didn't.
Jamie Batiste did.
And I was just simply reiterating what Jamie Batiste was talking about.
We've got some stuff that we need to talk to, talk about, let's get through what's left of the tariffs nonsense.
And then I think maybe we should talk about the hostage deal that doesn't seem like much of a deal at all.
Okay.
The former Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, who we talked about a little bit earlier, he's pushing back on Trump's comments about making Canada the 51st state.
But I haven't even seen this.
But if I had to guess, he's doing it in a less than confrontational way with our American friends, probably strongly reiterating what it means to be a Canadian as opposed to how much better we are because we're not Americans.
According to President Trump, about $200 billion a year protecting Canada, went on saying he doesn't need the U.S. doesn't need Canada's lumber, cars, or dairy, and maybe even Canada should be a 51st state.
A lot out there just in just in a couple of weeks.
What's your reaction to all of that?
Well, I must admit some degree of surprise.
I was, you know, ran a, in fact, our Conservative Party is a very, you know, pro-American, pro-Western party.
I was probably the most pro-American prime minister in the history of our country.
I view our relationship with the United States as one of Canada's great assets.
You are our closest neighbor, our vital security partner, and not just our friend and shared comrade in the propagation of the values of the free and democratic world everywhere.
And I've always viewed this as a tremendous partnership.
I understand that, you know, Donald Trump may want some changes in trade arrangements, but I must admit to being shocked by some of the things he said.
They're just not so.
You know, first of all, we don't actually sell dairy into the United States or sell almost none.
So that's not true.
Canada, it is true that Canada presently has a modest trade surplus with the United States.
The reason, Gabe, we do is because you buy so much of our oil and gas.
In fact, you buy it at a discount to world markets.
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It's actually Canada that subsidizes the United States in this regard.
And, you know, so maybe my response is maybe Canadians, if Mr. Trump feels this way, should be looking at selling their oil and gas to other people.
We certainly have always wanted to do some of that.
Maybe now's the time to do it.
And when we talk about subsidizing Canadian defense, I don't know what he's talking about.
We have a shared defense of North America.
The United States does that because it's in the vital interest of the United States.
Do you want Canada to be a neutral country?
You know, I kind of don't understand.
I just don't understand that.
I don't understand that argument.
There's many things he's saying.
Even when you talk about migrants, first of all, there's no major migrant flow from Canada to the United States.
You've obviously got an enormous problem on the southern border.
By the way, I'm completely sympathetic with Donald Trump's position on this.
I thought the policy of open borders of the Biden administration was disgraceful.
I mean, I think it was a violation of President.
I know Joe Biden personally, I like him, but it was a violation of his fundamental duties to the country.
And of course, President Trump wants to change that.
There is no migrant flow happening from Canada to the United States in any significant numbers.
And I'm going to tell you right now, drugs, guns, crime, most of those things flow north, not south.
A lot more flows into Canada from the United States than flows out of it.
Well, Shilly, he makes some excellent points.
Boy, I'm getting so nostalgic to see an adult in the room, to see someone with Gravitas, to see someone who comprehends all the issues and comes from this debate with an informed perspective, because it's not what we get from the liberals.
And I don't want to be partisan about that, but it's just true, isn't it?
Yeah, I mean, again, it would be wonderful if we could sell our oil to other markets as well as the United States, but it takes time to build pipelines.
And Justin Trudeau would not allow us to build export pipelines.
That's just the way it is.
Not only would not allow us to build the ones that were proposed, but also sabotaged any future pipeline proposals through an onerous regulatory process that is the prohibition in and of itself.
And, you know, it is true that the net flow of migrants flows north, not south.
However, we have become a bit of an exporter of terrorism.
And, you know, how many American lives should be jeopardized by the fact that dangerous people are coming into Canada and using Canada as a launchpad to potentially commit terrorism acts in, for example, upstate New York.
Again, I'm like Stephen Harper.
I'm sympathetic to Trump's positions.
And I can understand why Trump is adversarial with us when you're dealing with Justin Trudeau, who neither understands the issues that the Americans are facing, but doesn't really seem to understand the issues that Canadians are facing either.
And, you know, on that issue of border security, as Stephen Harper said, yeah, the line's share of the problem by far is the southern border.
It's a sieve, thanks to the Biden-Harris administration these past four years.
But Trump's not even in the White House, Sheila.
And what have we seen?
We've seen the province of Alberta and Ontario beef up border security on their own.
We've even had the feds announce, you know, they're investing in new drones, sniffer dogs, and so on and so forth.
And that's without him even being in office.
So he does get results.
And by the way, I want to just say, I'm glad Stephen Harper cleared up the milk issue because dairy always came up.
You know, we don't need your dairy.
And it was always news to me, Sheila, especially since we have the odious supply management system in Canada, which, by the way, was brought in by Justin's alleged father, Pierre Elliott Trudeau.
I never thought we were an exporter of dairy to the U.S.
And, you know, I guess Stephen Harper, you know, clarified that.
And, you know, when I did, when I filled in for Ezra for his monologue on Friday, I did seven humorous reasons, hopefully they were humorous, why Americans want nothing to do with Canada.
And one was milk, because unlike the U.S., we sell milk in plastic bags here.
We don't sell milk in plastic bags here, only there.
There's more parts of this country than just there.
Well, I'm talking about the center of the universe when it comes to Canada.
And what Americans call whole milk, we call homo milk.
I mean, imagine that, Sheila.
Homo milk in plastic bags.
I guess we're getting close to gay porn again, aren't we?
Yeah, I mean, it is a fundamental misunderstanding of the food supply chain in this country.
If you think we're exporting milk to the United States, excuse me, we're a country that would rather spill milk on the ground, making it more expensive for poor people in Canada than export it to the United States.
And folks, that's not a joke.
There were farmers that they were obliged to dump perfectly good milk because they're going to exceed quota.
And we had an example of that last year, didn't we?
I think it was in the Niagara Falls area.
A dairy farmer went on social media.
He's gone really quiet.
I think the dairy people really rattled his knuckles, but he showed the video of, you know, gallons and gallons or leaders and leaders, if you prefer, of milk just going down the drain when we have food bank use at a record high in this country.
That's despicable.
Yeah, I mean, I think they call the Canadians colloquially in Bellingham, Washington the Red Plague, because we descend on the Costco there and buy up all the milk and the cheese, thus irritating the locals, because Bentley is sort of right across the border.
They call us the Red Plague.
They really do.
And that's because we will travel across the border to buy affordable milk and cheese because the quota artificially inflates the price of milk here.
So, no, we're not exporting it.
Sheila, on that point, does that not speak volumes of the screw job we have in Canada, where when people from BC go to Washington, the red plague, as you called them, and buy up the milk and cheese, because right off the bat, you're taking a 30% haircut with the dollar differential.
And even with that, it is still way cheaper to get your dairy products in U.S. dollars than it is to buy the domestic products.
It's a fake market.
It's a monopolistic system here where the prices are artificially fixed.
Before we move on from this, just one more thing on this, and then we'll get into the hostage situation because I cannot go late.
So we'll talk about this one video, do an ad read, and then we'll get into the hostage deal.
Deal, I'm not sure if it's a deal that is struck to release some remaining Israeli hostages.
It is a video of Prime Minister Trudeau and Doug Ford talking about preparing for Trump's tariffs and the so-called Canadian unified response in retaliation.
Go ahead.
This afternoon, we're going to dig into the response to possible tariffs.
We have already been and will continue to be united in standing up for all Canadians, standing up for the national interest.
And a big part of that is actually defending and promoting the most successful economic relationship the world has ever seen in the face of shifting geopolitical pressures and realities.
We are the best friend to Canada, and we can do lots of things together.
And we need to make sure that doing those things together is as easy and as beneficial on both sides of the border as it possibly can be.
We also need to learn more about where the government's retaliatory tariffs.
I'm a strong believer in retaliatory tariffs.
You can't let someone hit you over the head with a sledgehammer without hitting them back twice as hard, in my opinion.
We're also eager to learn more about other considerations that we can hit beyond the tariffs.
And lastly, we need to hear from the federal government about how quickly and effectively the support comes to workers and businesses through the tariffs that we receive.
It's absolutely critical.
We get it out to the people as quickly as possible.
You know, I've been in business for years, like a lot of people around me.
I think that's good.
So that's Ford's solution is fight with the Americans unnecessarily and just get handouts to preserve Ontario jobs.
That's their solution here.
You know, Doug Ford talks about getting hit over the head with a hammer.
His comments lead me to believe that he's been hit over the head with a hammer multiple times.
Like, I just, this is the best you can do is just sit there and say, oh, we're going to hit you back with tariffs twice as hard.
Why don't you guys bring the temperature down a little bit instead of just being like this with the Americans?
Sit down and find a way to meet in the middle.
Yeah.
I totally agree with you, Sheila.
But maybe for Doug Ford, I recall the tagline for JAWS 4.
Remember, this time it's personal.
And I know this is a way out there theory, but his bread and butter business is Deco Labels.
And maybe he's worried about what the terrorist will do to that little chestnut in the Ford family fortune.
Just speculating here, of course.
You think they're buying a lot of stickers in Detroit?
I'm not sure.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, maybe that is a domestic kind of lion share, Sheila, especially stickers that say, oh, I don't know, going out of business.
Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah, fire sale.
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Okay, let's go into this hostage deal.
David, I'll let you take the lead here.
Well, we're talking about, first of all, Sheila, my heart breaks for these hostages.
Let's keep in mind, it's been over 460 days since these hostages have been held in tunnels, catacombs, really, if you ask me.
We don't know the condition of their health.
We don't know how much torture, how much raping has occurred, how many ailments have gone untreated.
It's horrific when you even think about it.
But equally so, Sheila, if there's any kind of deal where you're having mass murderers, not just shoplifters, but we're talking about mass murderers, terrorists released from Israeli prisons, this is throwing gasoline on the fire.
But you know, at the end of the day, you have to wonder, you know, that 400 number, like I said, it's about 460 plus days for the hostages.
I'm having a flashback to 1981 when the U.S. hostages in Tehran, Iran, were finally released 444 days after being detained.
And what was happening in January of that?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Ronald Reagan was taking power.
So I guess as, you know, of course, everybody wants these people who have been tortured and victimized beyond comprehension to be released.
But let's keep an eye on who is going to be let out of Israeli prison, Sheila.
Right.
So it sounds like the deal is only for 33 of 98 remaining hostages.
And 10 of those 33 are dead bodies.
So they are only bringing home 23 alive.
This is a small, I mean, if you are one of those families, this is absolutely a victory for you.
And I don't begrudge them that.
And I don't begrudge those bodies coming home.
That is essential to the families of the dead hostages.
But this leaves a lot of civilians still there.
And this features a six-week ceasefire.
Now, my problem with the six-week ceasefire is that it allows Hamas to recoup and resupply itself.
And here's another problem with the offset of this.
So there will be terrorists released from Israeli prisons in exchange for these 23 remaining alive hostages.
And Sheila.
And that is, sorry, just before I go on, 13 years ago, Hamas chief, the architect of the terror attack on October 7th, Yahya Sinwar, was released by Israel in one of these swap deals.
These guys leave prison, come home heroes, and then continue to do what they're doing with an extra zeal.
And that's my problem is that we are just going to see more of this.
Two points I want to make, Sheila.
Whenever we hear from the pro-Hamas types about the disproportionate use of force by the IDF, because we had almost 1,200 people die on October 7th, 2023, whereas far more have died in Gaza with the response.
And I always go to this, Sheila.
You're the ones who are fine with a disproportionate value on human life.
I speak of Galad Shalat, the Israeli soldier who was captured, finally released.
And it was Galad Shalat, the trade was, for 1,027 Palestinian hardcore criminals.
So if Sinwar was released in that deal.
That's the math I'm working on.
It's not one-to-one.
It's one to every 1,027.
So I guess if the Israelis kill 1,028, well, yeah, then maybe you can make an argument for disproportionality.
But the big picture is this, Sheila.
It all comes down to Iran.
Iran is the one funding Hamas, the House, Hezbollah.
They have poured billions of dollars into a fool's errand.
They are all losing this, all of them.
And Iran itself, I'm going to make a prediction here.
I think in the next four years, there is a serious chance of finally Iran, you know, the mullahs there, being displaced.
I think this is a regime teetering on the brink right now.
And with Trump coming in, with the sanctions going back on, they know that.
They're scared shitless.
And it's not going to be a big deal to get them removed.
It's more of a nudge than an armed conflict.
And remember, like I said, Iran is the ringleader behind all these terror groups.
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Why don't we go for the head of the snake?
Well, and I think we're going to find out more details about this prisoner swap, although I won't call it a prisoner swap.
Some of them are rightful prisoners and the rest are hostages about who's involved in the swap.
I think the devil is really in the details.
And that'll come out in the next hours and days.
David, I hate to say it, but it is 12:01 Alberta time, which makes me one minute late for my next interview.
So I've got to wrap.
David, close this up.
Well, thank you so much, Sheila, and thank you for that precious one extra minute of your time.
Well, folks, a tip of the hat to all of you on National Hat Day.
Sheila and I will be back here on Friday to do it all over again.
Until then, as always, stay safe and stay sane.
We need to be able to deal with both when and if they occur.
I think both sides of the border have to work diligently to make sure that they do not occur.
Our southbound flow that we've cut to historic lows in December is a significant gain.