Ezra Levant critiques Justin Trudeau’s gun control measures as a political distraction, featuring Rod Gil Taka of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights (CCFR). Gil Taka highlights Peel Region’s surge in illegal U.S.-sourced firearms and record gun violence since Harper’s 2014 lows, despite bans like Bill C-71 and C-21. He dismisses Trudeau’s claims—including the failed $60M buyback and absurd Ukraine donation proposal—as ineffective and harmful to lawful gun owners, arguing bans worsen systemic violence while targeting rural communities. Polyev’s parliamentary pressure underscores the government’s failures, with CCFR urging resistance at firearmrights.ca. [Automatically generated summary]
You know, Justin Trudeau's in trouble when he either hits the panic button about abortion or firearms.
That's how he distracts from his own foibles.
Well, he's hitting that firearms button hard.
Today, we'll talk with the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, their CEO, Rod Gil Taka, about Trudeau's latest desperatest scam.
That's ahead.
But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus.
That's the video version of this podcast.
Just go to RebelNewsPlus.com, click subscribe.
It's eight bucks a month, which might not sound like a lot of money to you, but boy, it sure adds up for us, especially since we don't get any money from Justin Trudeau.
And it shows.
Hey, the last time you sat down with your financial advisor, did you have a real conversation?
Did they allow you to express all your concerns, or did they dismiss them out of hand and give you the head off as talking points?
When it comes to your family's wealth, you need to work with people you can have a real conversation with.
People who share your values and won't view you as a fringe minority for believing things that are plainly true.
Work with our friends at Rocklink Investment Partners.
They're proudly Canadian, conservative, and independent.
They adhere to the time-tested principles of wealth creation and preservation.
They'll work with you to build a financial plan for your future.
Call Rocklink and get your investments on track.
Call them at 905-631-5462 or email them at info at rocklink.com.
That's RockLink with a C. info at rocklink.com.
Gun Control Debates00:15:40
Tonight, we talk about Justin Trudeau's last-ditch campaign plan to seize the remaining firearms in Canada.
It's a feature conversation with Rod Gil Taka.
It's December 23rd, and this is the Es for Levance Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Well, if you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara, as Ronald Reagan once joked, they would soon run out of sand.
They really don't know what they're doing.
They can't accomplish it.
You could think of that in reverse as well.
The government is in charge of banning the criminal use of firearms, not just banning it once or twice, but every year Trudeau seems to ban guns again.
Well, here's the head of the Peel Regional Police Commission on Gun Crime giving us an update on just how well that's going.
The surge of illegal firearms, not just here in Peel and the GTA, pose a significant threat.
In reality, here in Peel, we have seized more firearms than we have in any year previously.
On average, we're seeing an illegal firearm seized by our officers just slightly over 30 hours.
Every 30 hours we're seizing a firearm.
This isn't exclusive to the Peel area, but the GTA and the province itself.
The number of shootings we've seen here in Peel exceed more than we've ever seen in years previously.
I can say the majority of these legal firearms are smuggled into Ontario through criminal networks, and the origins we know are from the U.S.
And these criminal networks are looking to capitalize on our community to make profit, victimize the vulnerable.
Approximately 90% of these firearms that we seize are directly traced back to the U.S.
And I can say in reality, the remaining 10% Are likely also from the U.S.
They just reflect the ability of the difficulty we have on tracing some of these firearms because they've been de-identified.
Unpossible.
I don't believe it.
That must be disinformation.
After all, hasn't Justin Trudeau banned guns and then banned them again and then triple banned them just to be triple sure?
It reminds me of that great saying from systems analysis: the purpose of a system is what it does.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
What does that mean?
It means if the system does not crack down on illegal firearms use, if in fact, despite all these gun bans, there's more criminal misuse of firearms than ever, don't tell me the purpose of the gun control system is to reduce gun crime.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
And our current system has allowed gun crime to flourish while focusing the rage and anger of the government on law-abiding firearms.
You heard the guy.
He said that 90% of the firearms used in crimes in Peel Region, which is around Toronto, smuggled in from the U.S.
It's got nothing to do with law-abiding Canadian gun owners.
The problem is criminal elements smuggling from the states.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
Justin Trudeau's real purpose is to demonize law-abiding Canadian gun owners.
If you don't believe me, let's talk to an expert on the subject.
I'm delighted to spend the next half hour with Rod Giletka, the CEO and executive director at Canada's gun lobby, the Canadian Coalition for Firearms, right?
Rod, you heard from the head of the gun crime team in Peel Regional Police.
It's the worst ever.
We have more gun control than ever, but it's the worst gun crime than ever.
How do you square those things?
Yeah, it is worse than ever.
You know, what's interesting is if you look at back in 2014, which we were sort of ending, I believe it was around nine years, you can correct me on that, of Conservative Party rule under Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
In 2014, firearm-related violence was at the lowest point it had ever been in the history of statistics on those on firearm-related crime for StatsCan.
And then here we are sitting somewhere around 2023, I believe the numbers are in, and we are at the highest point of firearm-related violence in the history of data collection of that kind of information that StatsCan after Bill C-17, or sorry, 71, handgun ban, massive gun ban on May 1st, 2020.
Bill C-21, Bill C-21 amendments, and now this latest ban.
And it's amazing.
It's almost like the more handgun and long gun bans that the government introduces and the more gun control they introduce, the more dangerous Canadians get.
It's almost like they're aimed at the wrong target.
Well, it's obviously doing nothing to tamp down illegal crime.
What is the reason behind the surge in crime?
Like, those numbers are astonishing.
I understand that for the first time ever, you talk about going from a record low to a record high, that Canada is now on par with the United States for crime other than murder.
And that is so astonishing.
My entire life, one of the snobby things that Canadians said is: well, we're different from Americans.
We've got the best healthcare system in the world, and we don't have their gun crime.
Well, unfortunately, I don't think either of those two things are true anymore.
What is the reason that gun crime has soared?
Obviously, gun control does nothing against gun crime, but why has it gone so much higher?
Well, I think you can figure out where the gun crime is coming from if you just locate the people that are committing those crimes, right?
And the police know full well that the overwhelming majority of this crime is to do with the drug trade, to do with gang activity.
It's also a result of many social ills that we see increasing in our society.
I mean, I was born in Canada.
I've been alive here 55 years.
You know, you may not be as old as I am, but I think all of us that have been around a while have seen the difference in the disintegration of the social fabric of Canada.
So anyway, that comes from social moral decline, unemployment, lack of opportunity, lack of hope.
You have some difficult communities.
You also have uncontrolled immigration.
There's a lot of different things that end up funneling into the overall levels of violence that you see in your society.
And I think the most important point to remember is those are all very difficult problems to solve.
Those take a lot of resolve.
They take a lot of honesty.
You have to look at things in a very honest and stark way.
You have to address the root causes of violence.
And so those things are difficult and they take more than four years, which is a typical election cycle.
So that's why you don't see them being tackled by the liberal NDP, Bloc Québécois government.
You see them doing things like declaring gun bans, which haven't made a difference whatsoever in the gun crime that we're seeing.
You know, as you were talking, I was jotting down my hypothesis.
I mean, you mentioned a few things.
I got a couple more.
You mentioned immigration.
I think that is a factor.
People who have brought a lawlessness or a low trust society approach to Canada, foreign gangs included.
The move to defund police.
It's a real thing in Canada, not as pronounced as it was in the States.
The new move to bail criminals, including repeat criminals.
Catch and release would be a plain way of saying that.
Ending Harper's mandatory minimum sentences, which were not only a deterrent on crime, but literally kept prisoners in jail so they could commit no more crime on the street.
And finally, Donald Trump might point out that the border is an issue.
I mean, we heard that top cop.
If 90% of the guns are coming across the border, maybe Trump's onto something.
Maybe we should firm up the border and stop the trafficking of criminals and drugs.
I mean, I guess that would be the fifth thing that you mentioned is when you have the amount of hard drugs on the streets that we do in Canada, the people who deal those drugs often have guns to protect their ill-gotten gains.
And maybe people who use drugs perhaps have guns for the same reason.
Those are six reasons that crime is high.
None of them have anything to do with law-abiding Canadian gun owners, not one.
Well, if that was true, if what the liberals and the Block Québécois and the NDP say is true, meaning that gun bans exclusively aimed at licensed gun owners who are members of gun clubs, who buy their firearms legally, who are maintaining a license, all that stuff, if that's where the crime was coming from, it would be absolutely a walk in the park to show that.
We wouldn't need the rhetorical battle that we see over gun debate in Canada.
And you're lying.
No, you're lying.
Well, I've got a doctor's coat on.
So that means I can say untrue things and you're just terrible.
Like you wouldn't need any of these tactics.
You would be able to say, well, look, here they are.
These are the gun clubs where all this, where these people are sending it around.
We're going to shut these clubs down and we're going to seize all these people.
Like it would be game over.
But it's not.
It's systemic issues.
Some of them being spawned by legislation like the Liberals Bill C-5 and Bill C-75 that created the situations, like you just mentioned, that police have been pleading with the government to leave.
They literally have been, Ezra, they've been pleading with government to leave licensed gun owners alone, like directly.
And at the same time, saying, liberals, you've created this mess with these two pieces of legislation.
You have to stop.
You have to turn this around.
And they ignore them.
And there's a reason for all that.
But yeah, that's the situation we're in right now.
I think you're really on to something when you say tackling crime is a tough, complex, long-term thing.
Banning guns is a press release that they could thump their chest and feel tough.
But I think there's also the political layer here.
Who are the law-abiding gun owners in Canada?
Farmers and ranchers in rural parts?
Well, they're not liberal voters.
There are some sports shooters.
I'm guessing if you're into shooting sports, you're probably going to be more conservative leaning.
I'm just, I'm not stereotyping.
I just think that's probably likely.
There's not a lot of home defense allowed in Canada, but that would be another reason to have a lawful firearm.
Every group that I just listed is likely to vote, more likely to vote conservative than liberal.
So Trudeau's got a win-win.
He can demonize them as the problem, thus misdirecting from his own problem and put the conservatives in a pickle because they're going to defend farmers and ranches and rural people and sports shooters, but they'll look like they're actually defending gun crime because they're defending guns.
I think it's one of Trudeau's go-to points.
He talks about abortion.
He talks about guns.
And those are really his go-tos when things are rough.
And things have never been rougher for Trudeau.
I think, I just wonder if it's working.
I think Trudeau does it because he thinks it works.
Rod, is it working this time?
Well, I don't think it is.
I don't think it's working as a lot of their tactics aren't working anymore.
And I think, like I've said, I've had to do a lot of interviews over the last week, as you can well imagine, because this ban was devastating to a lot of people.
And I've been calling it an incredibly cynical and malevolent action.
And there is evidence, there's direct evidence to show how malevolent this is.
So the Liberals had rolled out their latest gun bill was Bill C-21.
And then when Bill C-21 was going through the House committee, the Liberals came with 100 amendments to their own bill.
Okay, so that doesn't happen very often because usually you make a bill and you don't have to amend anything, right?
Because it was your bill.
So they come with these amendments.
And one of them was called G46.
And it was a list of 300 and some odd models of firearms that they wanted to add through legislation into this bill to be prohibited.
And of course, there was hunting rifles in there.
There was single shot, 100-year-old rifle.
There's all kinds of crazy things, 22s, all kinds of stuff in there.
And there was a big backlash.
And after a lot of fighting, they withdrew that amendment.
Okay.
They withdrew it.
Then after that.
Backlash from who?
Who?
I mean, the firearms community, but like I said, liberals don't care about that.
Were there some rural liberals, there are a few, who completely, why would Trudeau care about backlash?
Well, because the thing is, like gun control is this smash the glass and pull out gun control when you're when you're in trouble, right?
Same thing as abortion.
They tried to create an abortion debate when abortion was settled decades ago, and nobody's ever going to take abortions off the table in Canada.
And so that's always been their, that's always been their go-to.
And, you know, the backlash was because there are groups like ours and others out there that are pushing this conversation into the mainstream.
Because I think that if Canadians are curious enough, they're like, well, wait a minute.
We've had more, and this is a liberal tagline.
We've had more gun control than in a generation.
The liberals say that, and that's true.
They've rolled out so much gun control, it makes the early 90s look like nothing, right?
And at the same time, Canadians, they can't all be asleep.
They're sitting there going, it's never been more dangerous to live in Canada.
So there's a couple of issues that they can't reconcile.
Now you have a little push from some honest media outlets.
You have alternative media outlets.
You have gun groups.
You have wildlife federations, right?
You have all these people pushing all this material out.
And then people start take notice.
So they finally withdrew those amendments.
And then after that, for two years, Ezra, they didn't do anything, right?
I had even heard some liberal MPs saying, we're done with gun control.
We pushed it too far.
They did nothing.
Now all of a sudden, they come back with this vengeance.
And they are like, okay, well, everything that we told you guys, because they remember, I don't know if you remember when they were banning all these guns, they said, don't worry, gun owners, you conspiracy theorists.
There's tons of, there's 18,000 models of firearms still available for you to continue on your life like it was like, you know, like this never happened.
And so people went out and they spent thousands upon thousands of dollars, in my case, $9,000 replacing all of these firearms with firearms I could use for the same purposes.
Then they come out after two years and they're like, yeah, all those that we told you to buy, they're banned too.
Can't even take them out of the house.
Don't worry, there's a gun buyback coming.
Pierre's Gun Buyback Concerns00:12:04
We promised that half a decade ago.
Why now?
Well, yeah.
Because the liberals also know they have no time to collect these guns.
There's going to be an election within 10 months at the latest.
They'll never get these guns.
And they know that the Conservatives have vowed to roll all of this back.
They know that this will never even happen even after they lose the next election.
So why would they do that?
They're doing that because they're like a wounded animal.
They're so desperate for a bump in the polls.
They're willing to try anything and devastating family businesses across the country, causing people like myself to lose $9,000.
They're like, yeah, go buy more guns.
Yeah, you bought them good.
Just joking, those are banned too.
They think that's funny.
And causing gun clubs to be on the edge of closing.
These are generational groups.
These clubs have been around for some of them 100 years.
Why would they do all this devastating, terrible damage and leave gun, you know, firearm-related criminals alone?
We're a bump in the polls.
That's why it's so malevolent and so cynical.
Yeah.
I live in the greater Toronto area, and I remember when the Toronto police gave advice.
There's so many robberies, so many home invasion robberies, often with firearms.
People are so terrified.
The police are powerless.
I don't know if you saw this because I know you're out west there.
Rod, the advice given to Torontonians by the police was have your key fobs to your car near the front door so when your home invasion robbery is happening, they don't feel the criminals don't feel the need to go throughout the whole house.
Here's a clip of the police saying that.
There's also updated advice for all vehicle owners.
A message echoed by Toronto police speaking at an Etobicoke safety meeting last month.
Constable Marco Ricciardi had a new message for vehicle owners who keep their fobs in Faraday pouches.
To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door.
Because they're breaking into your home to steal your car.
They don't want anything else.
A lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them and they're not toy guns.
They're real guns.
They're loaded.
That's why Galinski says they will be installing the doorstops and taking YPR's advice seriously.
Yeah, so I think that's not all, not all car thefts involve firearms, but I think that so many people in Toronto and Vancouver and Montreal have had a close encounter with crime either firsthand or someone they know that they no longer conjure up in their mind an image of a right-wing sports shooter, if they ever did.
Like they just know that is not the face of crime in 2024.
So I hope it's not working for them.
But you mentioned the gun buyback scheme.
And there was a recent exchange in Parliament.
I'd like to play, it's a couple minutes long, but it's an interesting clip.
Let me play this for you, and I'd like your take on it.
This is Justin Trudeau sort of defending the success of this buyback program.
Let's take a look.
After a 116% increase in gun crime under this Prime Minister and a repeat violent offender out on early parole allegedly murdered a 34-year-old woman in Toronto on Sunday, the Toronto police had this question, and I quote, for the Prime Minister, how is this person with their history allowed to access a firearm and be alone with a partner when they were supposedly living in a supervised community setting?
What answers are you providing to the victim's family or our communities who continue to see the heartbreaking results of your weak policies on crime?
End quote.
Despite Conservative opposition, we continue to move forward on bringing in red flag laws and yellow flag laws to make sure that people who are charged with domestic violence don't have access to firearms.
Conservatives stood against that and fought against that every step of the way, just like they're working hard to make legal again assault-style weapons that we rendered illegal in this country four years ago.
They want to unfreeze the handgun bans.
And last time they were in office, they cut 1,100 workers from CBSA who were there to prevent illegal guns flowing in from the United States.
He has not banned a single gun.
He spent over $60 million to fail to take a single gun off the road.
He's had to give it an amnesty to reverse all of the announced gun bans that he did, standing in front of a cartoon image of a scary Hollywood-style gun.
And what has been the sum total of all of this?
A 116% increase in gun violence since he became prime minister.
When will he realize that banning Grandpa Joe's hunting rifle is not going to stop crime, that instead we actually have to lock up the criminals?
Instead of trying to scare Grandpa Joe, he should be honest with Grandpa Joe in that we have banned assault-style weapons, and already we've seen thousands of assault-style weapons collected and destroyed.
These are things that we are doing that the Conservative Party and its funders, the gun lobby, continue to stand against.
They will re-legalize assault-style weapons in this country.
Unfreeze the market on handguns.
That's what they promised the gun lobby.
And they hide behind Grandpa Joe because they can't admit it out loud.
Mr. Speaker, he admitted he doesn't even know what an assault rifle is, let alone able to ban one.
He spent $60 million and his government admits they didn't take a single firearm off the road.
There's been a 116% increase in gun violence under his leadership.
And 99% of the shipping containers that come in are not inspected at all, even though the previous Conservative government increased the number of frontline border officers.
Why is it that the prime minister is so busy trying to protect turkeys from hunters that he doesn't protect Canadians from criminals?
I thought that was an interesting exchange.
Let me ask you a question, Rod.
On the one hand, Pierre Polyev says $60 million spent on a gun buyback that has not yet bought back a gun.
And on the other hand, Trudeau said, quote, thousands of guns collected and destroyed.
Can both of those things be true?
Is the government collecting and destroying firearms?
Is Trudeau misremembering or making something up?
What are the facts?
No, Trudeau is lying.
Lying has been a tactic for them since the beginning.
And finally, Canadians are starting to catch on.
That's why they're being completely decimated in the polls because people typically don't like to be lied to.
So I believe that the number is up somewhere around $70 million now that they've spent on trying to design this buyback.
And what the buyback is that they say it's rolling out now is for retailers, right?
So retail businesses and distributors that were caught with all of this unsellable stock.
Now, I attended a technical briefing with Public Safety one week ago when they rolled this ban out, and they had talked about their retail buyback pilot project that was completed with four retailers.
So I'm curious how four retailers, like I know retailers in my business, right?
Lots of them.
And, you know, you can have some people that have, you know, 15 rifles that have been banned, right, for the last five years that they can't dispose of.
Or you could have maybe a distributor that might have a couple of hundred, maybe.
So I don't know how he gets to thousands with four retailers, but nonetheless, he might be counting people that maybe have passed away and have lost the opportunity to get compensated for those firearms.
The RCMP just seizes them.
Anyway, I don't think that there's any way that they've bought back thousands of firearms.
I think it's a total lie.
And they're trying to use this for political gain and lying about the actual reality of it so they don't suffer any of the undesirable consequences of bringing up the gun debate.
I don't know.
You know, I'm going to swear here, but it's not actually meant as a swear.
One of my favorite little books, and I used to give it out as a gift.
It's about this big.
It's a tiny book.
It's almost a book lit.
And I'm going to swear because there's a swear in the title of the book.
It's called On Bullshit.
And it's a brilliant book.
I had the pleasure of meeting the author.
And he said, you know, there's so much bullshit in the world, but we don't actually, you'd think we would study it.
What is bullshit?
What are the different species of it?
And he said, by the way, and I'm going to say BS now instead of the full word.
He said, BS doesn't necessarily have to be a lie.
It's just something you say to get through the moment.
It's this great little book called On BS.
And I think that's Trudeau.
I think Trudeau is saying something.
I don't think he read his briefing notes.
I think he just is saying something.
He doesn't know if it's true or not.
He's not an expert in any policy.
The only policy he's ever really cared about was marijuana legalization, and that was years ago.
I think Trudeau doesn't even know if he's telling the truth.
He probably heard that gun buyback stat somewhere.
Maybe it was an American program in California.
Like, I think that he just comes by BS so naturally.
He probably believed it in the moment because he heard it somewhere.
I think a lot of people just tune him out, though.
They hear that voice and they just tune him out.
But what's interesting to me, I mean, Trudeau's always been a BSer on a lot of things.
And the press gallery never holds him to account.
Like, when was the last time they've ever held him to account?
They don't fact check Trudeau or Christia Freeland.
They save that for right-wing politicians or Donald Trump.
But watching that exchange, Rod, I'm sort of impressed that Pierre Polyev is leaning into it.
He's not afraid of this issue.
He's not, you know, being vague.
I mean, you can tell me you do this for a living.
You're the CEO of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.
It looks to me like Pierre Polyev isn't being Mau Maoed here.
He's not being pushed around by the scaremongering.
He knows his facts better than Trudeau's BS.
So what I really take away from that exchange is Polyev's sort of strong on this file.
Am I wrong?
Well, I think he is.
And I mean, obviously, there's so many people.
We represent a lot of people, plus we interact with a lot of people.
And you're always going to have this core of people saying, like, you know, Polyev's not going to do any of these things.
He's the other side of the liberal coin.
They're all on the same side.
And it's like, well, I've met Pierre a few times.
And I also, I watch what people do a lot less than I watch what they say.
And, you know, there are people in the lobbying community, I think we might be one of them, that told Pierre way back in the day when he first became leader, like, just don't talk about guns.
It's not going to be beneficial to you.
And us as a community, I don't care if you don't talk about guns.
Just make sure that you roll all this back because it's morally wrong and it's actually dangerous to public safety because it takes every dollar spent on gun buybacks is a dollar not spent on actual reducing violence.
And he did not take that advice.
He's like, no, I'm going to talk about it because if you understand the issue enough, which I don't think the other conservative leaders did, if you understand the issue enough, there's really nothing to hide from because our side is actually factually and morally right.
And they are lying and can get caught in countless lies.
So I think he's really doing two things.
He's being very courageous.
He's following through with his promises to every community that he's promised something to.
Trudeau's Firearms Proposal00:04:16
And he's making sure that he's prepared to have these conversations and respond to these statements by the liberals, which just shows that he's willing to put in a lot more work maybe than some other people that have taken a stab at that job.
Yeah, there's a real contrast.
I think Polyev takes after Stephen Harper and that he actually reads the briefing notes.
I want to ask you one last question, Rod.
I appreciate you spending so much time with us today.
There was this little flourish, and it was a perfect Trudeau flourish.
Like I say, that book on BS.
I really got to start.
I used to hand those out to, when I found a BSer in the wild, I would give him a copy of the book.
Trudeau's the master BSer.
And there was a little flourish to what he did recently when he announced these different types of firearms he was going to seize.
He said, and we're going to send them to Ukraine for their war against Russia.
Now, I've paid some attention, as we all have, to that horrific war and the terrible weapons, chief amongst them artillery.
And then there's a lot of drones and there's a lot of tanks and there's air power and there's helicopters and rockets.
It's a bloodbath to massacre.
Hundreds of thousands have died on each side.
And then there's the civilian casualties to send these little old-fashioned plinkers plink, plink.
I mean, there's no way.
First of all, I don't even know if it's practical to send them.
But even if this Kakamimi plan that was obviously schemed up by some PR intern, if you sent a soldier into battle with these, like I don't think True knows what an assault style weapon is.
Is it a style?
Does it like look scary?
If you, the guy has no idea.
He's using Ukraine as some sort of political moral justification.
Talk to me a little bit about the kind of firearms that Trudeau would send to Ukraine and why that's complete BS, but the media loves it.
Well, I mean, it's just, yeah, like Trudeau, just going back to what you said before, he lies as a reflex.
He's one of those people, right?
If his brain doesn't have an answer right away, he'll just make up a lie.
That's what he does.
I mean, I watch this guy constantly, obviously, because it's part of my job.
When it comes to the Ukraine thing, you know, it's interesting.
You know, you kind of ran down the tally of what's going on there.
And all of that is very real for the people that live in that region.
And Trudeau and the just atrocious Bill Blair, they sit back and Dominic LeBlanc, too.
They brought him in to be the straight man, but he's just shown that he's just as corrupt and malevolent as the rest of them.
They're using Ukraine as a prop.
Like that's what it is to them.
It's a prop.
There's like, well, there's a, there's people, there's voters that Ukraine's important to.
So we'll say, you know, Slava Ukrane.
You know, I'll yell that out in a crowd in a G7 meeting or whatever that was where he yells that stuff out.
Like it's a tagline.
It's a prop to him.
It's not real to people like Trudeau.
But anyway, forgive me for ranting on him, but just I can't believe that anyone ever voted for him.
When it comes to these firearms, these firearms are a variety of different things.
And to be fair, because we're not a group that talks out of both sides of our mouths, there's around 80, about 90,000 of these firearms are AR-15s.
But here's the thing: they are not standardized.
They are all different manufacturers.
They have different attributes to them.
They have different levels of quality.
You're not going to send the doctrine of military when it comes to equipment is standardization.
Every rifle must be the same.
Every sighting system, every magazine, everything has to be the same because you have to be able to, oddly enough, pick up a gun off the ground and operate it.
So even the AR-15s, they're useless to the Ukrainians.
And then, of course, they banned a whole bunch of single-shot and bolt-action firearms.
There's even some in there that are antiques that are worth $20,000, $30,000, like single-shot, you know, 100-year-old rifles.
And 22s, a ton of 22-caliber rifles.
It's absurd.
Non-Standardized Firearms00:01:46
Like, it's not even a serious conversation for anyone.
If you sat down at the table and said, okay, what can we send them?
Like, I don't know.
Maybe there's, you know, 200 Colt ARs that would fit the bill that we could send over there.
Other than that, the other 1.5 million guns are just going to have to be destroyed.
So are they sending guns to Ukraine?
They won't send a single gun to Ukraine.
But anyway, like I said, it's just a, it's the death and destruction is a prop for these people.
Yeah, incredible.
Well, Rod, it's been great to spend some time with you.
I know Sheila Gunread, our chief reporter, is a bit of an expert on firearms and firearms law.
I'm more of a dabbler.
I let Sheila do the heavy lifting on this file, but I've learned a lot from our conversation today.
And I'm a little bit encouraged because although Trudeau is a BSter, I think Polyev is not afraid of this issue.
And I think that's the difference.
I think that all conservatives know that gun grabs don't work.
The only question is, are they more afraid of the media party being mean to them than they are of standing up?
And that video exchange we just showed gives me some encouragement.
Rod, before we say goodbye, what's the best way for folks to learn more about the CCFR and what you guys are doing?
Is there a website I can direct people to?
Absolutely.
People can go to ccfr.ca or they can go to firearmrights.ca.
And if you're thinking of supporting a group like ours, what you should do is click why join and look at the list of things.
We publish everything that we do for the community on our website.
So you can check that out and become a member or donate if you like.
Right on.
Great to talk with you.
Been talking with Rod Giltaka, CEO and Executive Director of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.
You take care and thanks for fighting for our freedoms.