Michelle Sterling dismantles the anti-Catholic "shockumentary" Sugarcane (National Geographic, Dec. 9), exposing its conflation of unrelated incidents—a 1959 infant found in an incinerator and a 1960s consensual priest-employee relationship—to falsely accuse the Church of systemic infanticide and rape. She ties this narrative to geopolitical leverage, as China exploits Canada’s $76B residential school liability claims (per Kimberly Murray’s report) to demand $1.3T in climate reparations at COP29, despite being a major economy. Sterling contrasts media-driven hysteria with her fact-based debunking, citing firsthand sources like Dr. Hugh Dempsey, and criticizes CBC’s $1.4B subsidy—funding executive bonuses (e.g., CEO Catherine Tate’s $605K+ salary) while cutting newsroom jobs. The episode underscores how activist-driven narratives and taxpayer-funded media distort history for political gain. [Automatically generated summary]
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What really happened at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Azerbaijan that just wrapped?
Then, what is the real story behind the acclaimed documentary about Indian residential schools, Sugarland?
My guest today has the answers for both.
I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
The most recent United Nations Climate Change Conference just wrapped in Azerbaijan.
And wouldn't you know it, same result as always: the developed world, us, we have to send all of our money to the under and undeveloped world.
And wouldn't you know it, the world's second-largest economy, China, gets counted as part of the undeveloped world.
And they get a free license to create about one coal-fired electricity generating plant every single week while you are punished with onerous taxes and an early coal phase-out here in Canada.
So, our guest today is going to help us cut through the mainstream media polishing of the extreme wealth transfer that continues to be foisted upon the Western world by the United Nations under the guise of combating the deadly climate change.
But my guest tonight is also an independent historical researcher, and she has a brand new mini documentary debunking the lies of a very acclaimed documentary called Sugarcane.
Sugarcane is about an alleged crime which happened at an Indian residential school near Williams Lake.
Now, she got her hands on what really happened.
And while sugarcane is considered part of the true crime genre, my friend Michelle Sterling, who is also the communications director at Friends of Science, makes the case for why sugarcane should be in the fiction section.
Anyway, here's our interview.
We cover a lot of topics.
Take a listen.
So, joining me now is a good friend of Rebel News, Michelle Sterling, the communications director at Friends of Science.
And I thought I'd have Michelle on the show, as I do really every year at this time of year, to discuss what did or didn't happen at the United Nations annual climate change conference.
It's called COP for those in the know, but I mean, it is really just the annual soi for the world's environmentalist and green elites this year in a very nice place, Baku, Azerbaijan.
I was not familiar with Azerbaijan, but Baku looks like a pretty nice place to party for two weeks if you're an environmentalist.
Michelle, thanks for coming on the show.
My pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
So tell us, what came out of the conference of the parties this year?
Well, I think that if people have a subscription to the Western Standard, they can read a summary of Robert Lyman's work.
And there's a two-part thing there.
One thing that came out of the conference of the parties is that there was an acknowledgement of costed needs.
And so they want trillions of dollars to give to the global south, as it's called, because the whole premise of the climate movement is that it's the industrialized nations, the global north, that has caused the climate crisis, the alleged climate crisis.
And therefore, we must pay, pay, pay to the global south.
And so they wanted $1.3 trillion by 2030, which would be money from your pocket, may I note.
But actually they decided that they could come up with maybe $300 billion U.S. by 2035.
Now you have to remember there's been a green climate fund for the past many years, supposedly $100 billion a year to do exactly the same thing to pay off the global south.
So coming up with $300 billion was like a huge insult to the activists from the global south and all of the ENGOs as well.
They also want to encourage developing countries like China to cough up.
And China's like, uh-uh, under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, we are still a developing nation.
We're never going to pay.
So that's pretty wild.
And they also came up with Article 6.
They finally finalized a method of international carbon markets facilitating country-to-country trading and to make a carbon crediting mechanism fully operational, including how registries will work.
So this was actually the golden apple, if you like, of the COP conference, because this is what all the big ENGOs and the big green philanthropies like Bloomberg and Climate Works and the European Climate Foundation, this is what they've been working for for decades.
And you can go back and read Matthew Nisbet's peer-reviewed paper from, I think it's around 2018, called Strategic Philanthropy in the Post-Cap and Trade Era, because they had imagined that this kind of two cap and trade systems in the world, one based in Europe, one in North America, would have been set up and running by, you know, under the Obama administration, and it didn't happen.
So that was a real heartbreaker for them then.
They must be cheering on now.
Therefore, it is time for me to make the statement that I love to make about carbon markets.
And this is from Harper's magazine.
It was written by Mark Shapiro in 2010.
And that was the moment that I stopped believing in climate change as a catastrophe.
Carbon markets entail the lack of delivery of an invisible substance to no one.
And that was 14 years ago, and here we are.
Yeah, and that's what they agreed to do at the COP event.
You know, and in the middle of this, you mentioned some of the big foundations.
I think Canadians are familiar with Tides who had to rebrand into Makeway because Canadians figured out a little bit too much about what they were up to with regard to our politics and our policies around oil and gas in this country.
I think people are familiar with the Rockefeller Foundation and their tar sands campaign.
But there's another one in the mix of this, the Trottier Family Foundation.
They're heavily involved in the United Nations Climate Change Conference, and they do influence Canadian politics.
Why don't you explain that to us?
Well, at COP28, they came up with a ball cap that had capped emissions on it.
So at COP28, the Trotty Family Foundation was handing out all these caps.
And at COP28, that's when from out of the blue, Stephen Gilbeau announced that they would be imposing a cap on emissions in Alberta.
And so I have come up with a theme of capped illusions because the Trotty Family Foundation, in its own statements on a website called Philanthropy for Change, they claim that they've been funding most of the ENGOs in Canada.
At COP28, they funded most of them.
All of them were on board.
And this woman named Caroline Boyette of Climate Action Network of Canada, which is an internationally networked group of ENGOs, she was running around wearing their emissions cap and she was sneering at Premier Smith for running a campaign of advertising, trying to tell people, scrap the cap, because it's going to cut like $20 billion out of the revenues.
And this will make everyone poor because Canada does not live on subsidies from the government.
The government lives on revenues from oil and gas.
People don't know that.
Anyway, and they also came up with this pathways.
What is it?
Paving the way for an equitable future.
This was just before COP29, this past one.
And COP actually means Conference of the Parties, parties that are signatory to the original United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
So anyway, Carolyn Boyette was running around critiquing Premier Smith and wearing her little emissions cap.
So I came up with the CAP delusions because this paper by her organization is full of delusions.
Like they just want to give away all of your money to various climate causes and they have absolutely no idea of the consequences, the implications for ordinary people.
They don't care.
And again, like groups like the McConnell Foundation have funded them.
And you have to realize that Climate Action Network, the international organization, is based out of the UK and they're funded by groups like the European Climate Foundation, Climate Works, George Soros Open, what's it called?
Open Society.
So all the usual suspects.
So many of these groups are interested actually in societal collapse.
They want degrowth.
They think that's a good thing.
They think that if you can't fly, if you can't drive, if you have to eat bugs instead of steak, then they will save the planet.
And, you know, then essentially you'll become a useless leader, eater with a joyless life.
And we all know what happens next after that.
So we really do have to cap the delusions of these people.
And we can't have these so-called charities and foundations, which have special tax status destroying the lives of taxpaying Canadians because that's what they're doing.
Right.
Like I think people really need to understand these people have charitable status.
in this country, which means they have a preferential treatment within the tax system, but they do absolutely nothing charitable.
They do not help their fellow man whatsoever.
In fact, they impose harm on their fellow man through their crazy policies.
And, you know, to hear this young girl complaining that Danielle Smith has a $7 million campaign to get around the lies about the emissions cap, she's got plenty of money.
And second, Danielle Smith, the Alberta government, as much as I dislike government spending in all of its forms, she has a responsibility to steward the resource that all Albertans own and then maximize the value of that resource.
We need to think of her as an executrix of an estate.
It's her job to make sure the estate is worth as much as possible.
And if she has to spend $7 million to fight a damaging production cap is what it really is, then okay, fine.
That's government spending I'm in favor of.
Yeah, and you know, you saw in the, we did a little video about the whole capped illusions.
You saw in the Calgary Herald, there was an article by two members of the Canadian Association of Physicians for the Environment, Dr. Vipon's organization.
And they were also saying, you know, $7 million could pay for nurses and doctors and healthcare.
Why is she wasting this money?
Well, you know, $7 million is nothing compared to $20 billion, which, you know, I believe would be annual revenue.
So losing that would be damaging to every aspect of society and especially modern medicine, because modern medicine is very expensive.
And many of the revenues from oil and gas support modern medicine.
And furthermore, all of the PPEs and protective devices, the visors, the one-use gowning, all these materials used in medicine, in modern medicine, are made from oil and gas and coal products.
It's ludicrous that these doctors are against fossil fuels when they can't do modern medicine without them.
Yeah, they're against fossil fuels until they have to fly to a climate change conference in a very nice place, Dr. Joe Vipon.
He was also in favor of lockdowns until it was like, but I have to go to the climate change conference.
I guess I get to travel.
You get to stay at home.
And drag my daughter there and exploit her innocence.
Exactly.
Oh, these people with their kids as human shields.
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Now, I wanted to give you the second half of the show to talk about something that is completely unrelated to your work with Friends of Science, but it is, I think it's a personal passion for you because you're somebody who believes deeply in the truth.
I think that's why you, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's why not only you do your work with Friends of Science, but you are also working on, in your own personal capacity, exposing the lies around residential schools and mass graves which happen at them in Canada.
So why don't you tell us a little bit about that?
I know you have a new mini doc too.
Yeah, I produced a mini documentary that rebuts the claims in a National Geographic documentary called Sugarcane.
And Sugarcane will be showing on National Geographic on December 9th.
And then it starts streaming on Disney Plus and Hulu, just in time for Christmas to denigrate and blood libel, especially the Roman Catholic Church, but all Christians and all Canadians and Canadian history.
So what's happened is two young filmmakers have made a documentary that takes two true stories and conflates them and turns it into one big lie.
And so my mini doc deconstructs these lies.
And basically the theme of Sugar Cane is that priests impregnated Indigenous students at St. Joseph's Indian Residential School near the Sugarcane Reserve near Williams Lake in British Columbia.
And then they incinerated the unwanted newborn babies in the garbage burner at the school.
And so there is a true story that a baby was found in the incinerator there.
But it was reported in the Williams Lake Tribune in 1959.
And an unwed mother had given birth at the school, but she had been driving home from Williams Lake to Canham Lake, where she lived.
And that's about an hour and a half drive.
So I suspect she went into labor along the way and just pulled in there.
She had taken a practical nursing course and knew how to deliver a baby.
And apparently thought the baby was stillborn.
So she put the baby in the incinerator and apparently fled.
Now, you know, anyone who's given birth can understand that a person would be likely in shock.
She might have been impaired in some other way, but we don't know because they never actually interview her.
So the story centers around the father of one of the young filmmakers.
The father's name is Ed Archie Noisecat, and he is in fact the baby who was found by the dairyman in the garbage burner.
And the dairyman saved his life.
He thought there was a cat trapped in there because he heard the crime.
The other story is that in the 1960s, there was a priest there who broke his vows.
He fell in love with a girl who was 22 years old.
She was working there as an employee as a seamstress.
They did have a child together and the child was put up for adoption.
So that's a true story.
And I understand from people in the know that even though this happened, this was not a matter of rape.
It was consensual and that they stayed in touch for the rest of their lives, that they, you know, they weren't, there wasn't like this angst, if you like.
So, you know, they conflate these two stories.
And if you read the film critics reviews, and I guess that's where what really got me going, because I started reading these film critic reviews, they definitely get the impression that priests systematically raped students, burned unwanted babies in the incinerator.
There was infanticide going on and on and on and on like this.
So these film critics are creating a meta-narrative worldwide about Canada and Indian residential schools that is completely untrue.
But it's going to be very hard to counter it because, you know, this has been published in the New York Times, the Globe and Mail, the Irish Times, the Guardian, LA Times.
In fact, ironically, the film Sugarcane just won the best true crime documentary award by Critics Choice and Best Political Documentary, even though it's not true and the real crime is the blood libel against Roman Catholics and Canadian history.
You know, it leaves me speechless because the ease with which they paint the whole with the crimes of the few makes me very angry.
It's just plain old, good old fashioned bigotry, I think, anti-Christian bigotry.
And nobody is denying that bad things happened at residential schools, but it also fosters the skepticism about residential schools, the denialism the other side wants to make illegal when they just make up things like this.
It makes people almost skeptical sometimes to a fault because, well, you can't believe anything coming out of these people's mouths.
And I just the lies breathed into the ether by these people and then repeated just completely by the mainstream media.
It's evil.
Frankly, it's evil.
The idea that young nuns and priests were leaving civilization on the intent to do harm is outlandish.
Many of them did this out of just Christian charity, goodwill.
They were leaving everything they knew to go into the wilderness to help.
And I think that's the majority of the experience.
Yes.
And I think that the Canadian public really has to wake up and realize that this is not an issue confined only to the Indigenous community because people don't remember, but the day after the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People was passed, which was June 21st, 2021, and that was less than a month after the claim that the Kamloops band made of finding 215 unmarked graves,
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human remains, mass graves in their orchard.
So one month after that, less than one month, UNDRIP was passed, even though it had been contended by six premiers and several First Nations bans.
They did not want it to pass as written.
But of course, the atrocity propaganda pushed it right through.
But the day after it passed, China accused Canada of genocide on the world stage at the UN.
Now, Kimberly Murray is the special interlocutor on missing children and unmarked graves related to Indian residential schools.
She has just issued a more than 1,000-page report, which is her final report.
And in it, she now claims that Canada is guilty of an ongoing genocide, that we're guilty of human rights crimes, that we made enforced disappearances of children.
You know, this is like in parallel to what happened in Argentina, where political activists actually were disappeared by their government.
You know, people would show up in the middle of the night, sweep somebody away, then you'd never see them again.
That's what enforced disappearance is all about.
But, you know, in those cases, you had the mothers of those children standing in the government with a picture of their child and their date and name and name, you know, their occupation, last scene, and such like.
We have no list of missing children in this country.
There's no list of names, no list of missing persons reports that were filed and unresolved.
And so she has filed this with the International Criminal Court of Justice and a few other international bodies like that.
So I think that she's just handed a geopolitical advantage to China.
And with all of the talk about foreign interference in Canada and the inquiry that's going on, you have to really ask yourself what's going on here.
And I think you have to ask yourself, if Bill C413 goes through, the residential school denialism bill that Leah Gazan and Kimberly Murray are promoting, if that goes through, No one like myself would be able to try and defend and vindicate Canada if China charged us with genocide on the world stage.
And you might say, oh, well, that's just silly.
But remember, the once unipolar world where the U.S. was solely kind of the policeman of the world, the king of the world, if you like, that has dramatically changed.
And now the BRICS nations are exerting their strength.
It's a multipolar world.
And if Canada is accused of this or convicted of it at the world court, then, you know, we could be embargoed like South Africa was, for instance, under apartheid.
There could be other kinds of reparations demanded internally.
There could be civil violence related to it.
And as we see what's going on in the streets right now, that's not an impossibility at all.
So it's a very serious issue.
And, you know, things like sugar cane will obviously be used as proof that there was systemic infanticide and disappearing of children in Canada.
So I'll see you in jail.
I like lemon seed pocket.
I like lemon poppy seed cake, by the way.
We'll start a prison band, you and me.
The gall of the Chinese to even talk like this.
But at the same time, when we have our prime minister saying that we're guilty of genocide, why wouldn't the Chinese think it?
I mean, the Chinese are, as we speak, stripping Uyghur children of their Muslim names.
They are re-educating them, making sure that they don't ever speak any version of Arabic, taking away their Qurans, real re-education and slave labor, actual genocide, sterilization of Uyghur women.
But now, thanks to Justin Trudeau and the crazy NDP and the media misinformation around this, of course, they've got, to use Rachel Notley's language, social license to call us genocide.
Right, that's right.
And it's a very serious problem.
So, and it is in some ways also related to the climate issue, because of course, part of the whole thing that happened at COP is because of the carbon trading thing.
One angle is that Canada will be a large park where anyone in the world can buy and sell nature-based climate solution carbon credits here.
And of course, First Nations will be employed as land guardians and water keepers and fire guardians.
And, you know, it won't actually advance the careers of any of these young people, but they'll get paid for sort of sitting around watching the river.
You know, it's, and actually, as someone mentioned to me the other day, it's the elites of the Indigenous community who will be skimming off this money.
It's the elites of the legal community who will be cashing in on these claims of genocide and ongoing reparations.
Because that's the upshot of Kimberly Murray's report, everyone, even though we've already paid billions of dollars in reparations. were on the hook for $76 billion in various land claims and class action suits.
Kimberly Murray says that we now also owe reparations for the phantom genocide.
So it's going to be a pretty big tab and it's going to be hard to fight, especially because mainstream media has fully bought into the narrative.
Michelle, how did people find your work about residential schools?
Actually, before we get there, I just want people to know that you have some, I would call it expertise in documenting Canadian history and speaking on Canadian history.
You're not just some lady from the internet.
This has been a, I think, a lifelong interest for you.
So just why don't you put that into context about how you are able to do this work?
Well, years ago, I did a series of documentaries with CFCN Calgary, CTV Calgary, and Dr. Hugh Dempsey was my research supervisor at the time, Potena, Flying Chief.
He was the curator of the Glenbow Museum.
And he was married to Pauline Gladstone.
And she was the daughter of the first Indigenous senator of Canada, Senator James Gladstone.
And Dr. Dempsey documented all kinds of material from sort of first-hand sources related to Treaty 7.
And so during that time period, I interviewed hundreds of people all over Alberta, mostly southern Alberta, but I interviewed people like Grant McEwen, who was born in 1902.
So, so, and it's been a lifelong interest for me.
And, you know, I just can't stand watching Canada being destroyed by the settler historians who have no historical context whatsoever, in my opinion.
They always forget to mention that while we were trading peacefully with Indigenous people in Canada, in the States, they were conducting Indian wars from 1644 to 1924, 1924.
Yeah, a lot of Indigenous people in southern Manitoba were actually Americans, American who fled to Canada.
Oh, yes, there's a whole flock of people who came over the border after a massacre in the U.S. that was perpetrated with provocation by various Dakota people against the white people of that region.
And also after Custer's last stand, the victorious Indigenous band under Sitting Bull came over the border for safety and we protected them.
We gave them asylum.
So, and actually Leia Gazan is descended from one of those people.
So she's the last person who should be complaining about Canadian history because her family benefited from the Northwest Mounted Police, one of whom is actually her forefather, if you go back in history.
And he supported her family in the past so that they didn't starve.
And her, I think it's her great-grandfather went to Indian residential school, even though he actually wasn't authorized to because he wasn't a status Indian.
But he did go there.
He was a devout Catholic.
He helped build the local Catholic Church.
He was an incredibly good writer, and his works have been published all over the world because he was writing about those early times and the cowboy and Indian stories of the day.
So, you know, it's weird that she's turning on her own history.
Isn't that weird?
I mean, one of the things.
You can find an article by Nina Green on my sub stack about that and it's quite an incredible read.
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Now, I'm glad you mentioned your sub stack on this topic.
How do people see your documentary and also see your sub stack, which is just brimming with information that you won't see in the mainstream media?
Well, my sub stack is under my name, Michelle Sterling, S-T-I-R-L-I-N-G.
You can also see my work on medium.
Again under Michelle Sterling, you can find the bitter roots of sugar cane, which is the name of the mini doc I did.
That's on Rumble, it's also on Vimeo and it's also linked within one of the articles by the same name on my substack.
And it's all free.
You know, Sean Carlton, who's a academic at the University OF Manitoba, says people like me are cashing in on residential school denialism, while I'm doing this for free.
So there you go, Sean.
Yeah, whereas the the money is flowing completely in the other direction.
Every time you make an allegation of a mass grave, the government says, here's your bag of money, don't bother digging, just here's your bag of money.
Um Michelle, and how do people support the work you do in the interest of truth at friends of science?
Because you guys will never take a penny from any level of government to do the work that you do.
No, we don't.
We're not a charity, so we don't issue tax receipts.
We are supported by our members and donors, so we don't represent any industry.
You can go to Friendsofscience.org and click on the join button and, while you're there, you could buy a membership for a friend or family member as a christmas gift, or you could buy one any time of the year for any reason, but that will get people.
Our newsletters that go out every two weeks from our volunteer directors.
One is called CLI SCI and it reviews recent climate science related papers and gray grey work gray papers, white papers, as well as peer-reviewed papers and the other is called Extracts and these this is more political news.
It follows the IPCC and various policy climate policies nationally internationally, and does a breakdown of those.
And you'll also get our reports and a discount on our events and you'll help us just by being a member.
So it's 40 for one year, 80 for three years.
Uh, it's a nominal sum.
If you want to throw in a donation, that's great too.
If you don't want to become a member, please do send us an e-transfer for christmas we'd love to have, I don't know 22.
We've been doing this for 22 years free, so if you can help us, that'd be great.
I also cannot recommend your youtube channel enough.
Uh, there's something for everybody there, longer form content um, in the form of long form sort of powerpoint presentations, and short quick videos videos meant for kids too and it just cuts through the hysteria and And jargon of the eco-radicals and breaks these complicated, I think, purposefully complicated issues down to just the things that normal people can understand about how climate policy really affects your life.
So, Friends of Science YouTube channel, cannot recommend it enough.
Michelle, thanks so much for coming on the show.
Thanks so much for your time.
Thanks so much for your pursuit of truth, both on the climate issue, but also on Canadian history itself.
I just, I know that you take a lot of heat being an advocate for truth on both issues, and we just can't thank you enough.
Thank you so much.
And to everyone, happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas.
So they coincide this year.
So all the best to everyone.
And let's hope that we have a better new year.
Yeah, Pierce to 2025.
Thanks, Michelle, so much.
We'll talk to you again very soon.
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Your closing tagline, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think, reminds of the skit, You Were Speeding from the Frantics, which was a Canadian comedy troupe mainly active in the late 70s and early 80s.
Slightly before my time.
I'm like, I was born in 79.
I looked it up and it was likely before your time as it was on their 1984 album, Frantic Times.
It clearly shows the change in CBC over the last 40 to 45 years as I first heard it on their CBC radio program.
Anyway, if you want to spend one minute and 55 seconds of your life, here's a link to You Were Speeding.
Keep up the great work.
You know what?
Let's spend a minute 55 together listening to The Frantics from when was this 1984.
I was in kindergarten.
Let's listen.
Excuse me, sir.
Would you mind getting out of your train of thought?
What?
Where's the big idea, sir?
Oh, I'm sorry, officer.
I don't understand.
I was thinking.
Yeah, your mind was wandering all over the place.
May I see your degree, please?
Sure, here.
Take it out of the frame.
Sorry.
It's a community college learner's permit.
You need a BA to drive this idea home.
I must have been lateral thinking and not realized it.
See, I had to think fast to get around that mental block back there, and I didn't notice the limits.
This degree is expired.
I ought to throw the encyclopedia at you.
Why?
Is this a controlled thought zone?
Yes, it is, sir.
See the sign?
School.
I guess I was letting my thoughts wander all over the avenue of consideration.
You almost collided with established dogma back at those presumptions.
I wasn't thinking straight.
I see.
Have you been drinking, sir?
A couple of beers, but I'm not illogical.
Well, it should stop your thought process right now, but I'm going to give you a ticket for quick thinking.
That's three points off my IQ.
And the fine is a penny for your thoughts.
I'll get back into the flow of normal thought, officer.
You go straight to your inevitable conclusion.
It's foregone.
You can't miss it.
Yes.
You understand?
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you very much, Officer.
Okay, off with you.
Kids, too damn smart for their own good.
That is back when CBC quite possibly had a purpose in delivery of Canadian content to the Canadian public, but in the time of the internet and social media,
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and anybody and everybody having the ability to start a podcast, start a stream, do the news, record the news, report the news, do we really need the behemoth of $1.4 billion in annual subsidies, telling us that if you don't support the CBC, well, then you're not Canadian?
I don't think so.
And you know what?
Before I go, let's show another clip.
Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation regular guest on the show here, just given it to the CBC, to the Heritage Committee this week.
Take a listen.
The CBC is getting $1.4 billion from taxpayers this year.
That money could instead pay the salaries of around 7,000 paramedics and 7,000 police officers.
That money could instead pay for groceries for about 85,000 Canadian families for a year.
Instead, taxpayers are paying $1.4 billion so the CBC can hand out huge bonuses, get microscopic ratings, and overpay its out-of-touch executives.
CBC CEO Catherine Tate refused to tell this committee if she will take a severance when she leaves the state broadcaster.
Tate considers that to be a personal matter, and quote, it's not personal if it's taxpayers' money.
Documents obtained by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation show Tate is paid between $460,000 and $551,000 this year with a bonus of up to 28%.
That is a bonus of $154,000.
That bonus is more than the average Canadian family earns in a year.
Around this time last year, the CBC asked for more money.
After that, just before Christmas, the CBC announced layoffs in its newsrooms.
I've worked in many newsrooms and getting let go is not a bowl of cherries.
But what about the bonuses at that same time?
Documents obtained by the CTF show the CBC did hand out bonuses costing $18 million.
As the CBC fan group Friends of Canadian Median put it, quote, this decision is deeply out of touch and unbefitting of our national public broadcaster, end quote.
Thank you to the members from the Conservatives, the bloc, and the NDP who voted to hold the CBC to account for these bonuses.
Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
As always, we'll see you back in the same time, in the same place.