Ezra Levante dissects Trump’s 4-million-vote landslide, calling it a mandate to "drain the swamp," while mocking Kamala Harris’s $1M Oprah endorsement and teleprompter struggles. He praises Trump’s global outreach—70 calls in his first week—and hardline immigration picks like Tom Holman, contrasting with AOC’s asylum seeker defense. Foreign leaders’ flip-flops on Trump highlight shifting priorities, while Poliev’s "Maple MAGA" label exposes Canada’s political hypocrisy. RFK Jr.’s principled campaigning and potential future role underscore Trump’s broader appeal, despite policy divides, proving his victory reshapes global conservative alliances. [Automatically generated summary]
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All right, here's today's show.
Tonight, I don't know about you, but my spirits are high since Donald Trump won.
But what'll it mean on the ground?
Who are his appointees?
And what does it mean for Canada?
A feature conversation with our friend Viva Fry.
It's November 13th, and this is the Ezra Levance Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Hope you had a chance to tune into our election night live stream.
Boy, it was fun.
We sat down, I think it was at 7 p.m., and I don't think we left till like 3:30 a.m., but it was riveting.
I was very excited from the get-go.
I remember those exit polls from Georgia showed a huge switch towards Republicans, but I wasn't going to leave this chair until it was late enough that I knew that defeat couldn't be seized from the jaws of victory, which is what happened in 2020.
It was a night of incremental gains hour by hour, ending, as you now know, with Donald Trump sweeping all seven so-called battleground states and winning the popular vote.
Also, winning the Senate and the Congress.
Really amazing all around.
I feel great as a Canadian because I feel like the world is backing away from a precipice, and I think America will be made great again.
And I think a rising tide lifts all boats, especially a country as lucky as us to be so integrated in the United States economically, geographically, linguistically, culturally.
I think America doing well will redound to our benefit as well.
But that's me thinking in terms of things like economics and prosperity and ideology.
For example, we talked with Barbara Kaye about what it means with Donald Trump basically calling an end to transgenderism in sports.
That'll have an effect in Canada too, because so many Canadian sports teams go to the U.S. for international tours.
It'll be amazing.
But I want to have a good debrief with one of our close friends who we talked to on election night, who's originally from Canada, from Montreal, no less, which was really a wonderful city, but it has some excesses of authoritarianism, whether it was COVID lockdowns or socialism.
I'm talking about our friend David Freiheit, also known as Viva Fry.
He's now based in the freest state in America, namely Florida.
And I'm delighted to have him join us for a featured discussion today.
David, great to see you again.
Ezra, it is great to see you again in the new world order, so to speak.
In the good way, it's the day after or the week after.
It's in the aftermath of that sweeping election and you can feel the change in the air.
You know, it's important that it was a landslide victory.
And I think it's fair to call it that, because that way, most of the Democrat skeptics or resistance, as they used to call themselves, they're not going to try and lawyer their way out of this one.
I mean, there are a few races, I think, where there are shenanigans that are concerning, but I think generally the left has more or less accepted this.
You know, not the more extremist ones, the cultish members.
And so far, the biggest surprise to me, David, is there haven't been street riots.
I thought for sure, I mean, half of Washington, D.C. was boarded up with plywood.
I don't think the riots came anywhere.
Well, they're in the works now.
You see some flyers going around.
They're going to disrupt the inauguration on January 20.
But you have to hammer this point home.
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Some of the left-wing propagandist media is saying modest gains.
This was a devastating defeat.
This was as sweeping a victory as you can get.
You'll never have a Walter Mondale-like defeat when Reagan beat him and got every state except for one.
You'll never have that now because some states will not be able to vote their way out of democracy.
And I put it in quotes.
California is not going red until they change some of the laws that keeps it blue.
All swing states sweep.
Popular vote sweep House, Senate, presidency, and they've got the Supreme Court.
It is, it's the popular vote that is really the, not the, the, the kicker, it's the clincher.
Because you had your, you're, I can call him a jackass because he's a jackass, Bill Maher getting out there like everybody else.
Oh, they always win the popular vote.
It's just a foregone conclusion.
Democrats win the popular vote.
No.
And not just like eking out a victory, 4 million votes differential between Trump and Kamala in the popular vote.
That is a mandate.
That is what we would call a political mandate for Trump to come in and drain the swamp and clean the house.
And it's a godsend that it came this way because the last thing you wanted was like fighting over Maricopa County to see who becomes the next president because the fighting would never end.
This is a clear mandate by the people.
Right.
You know, or a hanging Chad to make reference to the closeness between 2000.
Yeah.
Now, you mentioned Bill Maher and he can be irritating, but I want to give him credit.
I think that more than almost any other sort of entertainer comedian who dabbles in politics on TV, like compared to Stephen Golbert or Jimmy Kimmel, I actually think he's self-aware.
And I know he's been a critic of wokeism.
And listen, I'm not going to vote for Bill Maher or anything, but I think that in terms of how the different media official comedians, regime comedians, accepted things, I think Bill Maher was the most level-headed about it.
Here, let me play a video of him showing a little bit of, you know, self-awareness that the other regime comedians don't.
Here's a clip of Bill Maher.
I got to say, for a liberal, not so unreasonable.
He seems to be a guy who can understand that losing an election doesn't mean the end of the world.
Here's Bill Maher.
What I hear from the, you know, the usual suspects, I'll call them on the left in the media, is just, you know, again, not looking in the mirror.
It didn't matter.
No, they think they didn't call him Hitler loudly enough.
That just a lot of people like texted me things like, well, you know you can't fix stupid sorry, that doesn't work with me.
Yeah, you're stupid because you're not, you're not thinking about the bigger picture, you're not thinking about maybe we did something wrong, maybe we're not perfect.
Um, you know, it's like a relationship, you got dumped, America dumped you, and they're all like you don't know what you had.
Yes, they do, they know what they had.
And what they're saying is, we know what we had and you're a mess.
All right no, i'll say I I don't think that he's connected.
I think he's utterly detached.
He, he is what is wrong with the Democrat party, a bunch of elitists uh, living in a silo rich, don't have to deal with the negative consequences of their bad policy.
Um, and even you know, after the crushing defeat, he doesn't look.
I didn't find him looking back on himself and saying, where did I go wrong?
He looks at the losers and says the losers have to look in the mirror.
This is a day after he says Trump's not going to win, he's going to lose the popular vote, he's going to flip out, freak out yada, yada.
He doesn't have ground support, he doesn't have the will of the people.
I mean, Bill Maher couldn't be more wrong if he tried, and when he's more wrong than anybody else on earth, he doesn't say, how did I get it wrong?
Maybe sitting around smoking weed drinking in my silo is not the best way to understand what's going on on the ground.
I'm going to say the losers need to look in the mirror.
Well, that loser is you, Bill Maher.
Well, i'm glad you're tough on Bill Maher because someone because not enough people are, but I i'm a touch more sympathetic to him.
Um, because here's an example, he actually has panel discussions where he actually allows genuine conservatives or freedom fighters or skeptics on, and that's something you just don't see.
I mean, I can't remember if it was Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel had uh, Pod Save America, which is a podcast of Ex-Obama staffers, like it is.
Like he was basically asking, uh oh, deluded Obama Zealots, what went wrong?
It's unthinkable that a Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert would invite on, let's say, a Steve Bannon.
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They would never do it, whereas I think Bill Maher would get a kick out of that.
Anyway, we're talking too much about Bill Maher.
Yeah, don't put it.
Well, we'll agree, he's better than Jimmy Kimmel, so that's a low bar.
You know, I saw some news that it's sort of lascivious on the outside, but I think there's a deeper uh thing it reveals, which is that Kamala Harris raced and spent more than a billion dollars on her campaign.
In fact, she had a 20 million dollar deficit, and here's what surprised me.
She spent millions of dollars on those celebrity endorsements and concerts she spent, according to fec uh, uh disclosure, one million dollars was paid to Oprah Winfrey for Kamala Harris to go on the Winfrey show, and I thought that was an organic endorsement.
I thought that was, you know, a couple of Democrats hugging it out.
She paid a million bucks for that.
She flew to the Um Who's Your Daddy podcast, and actually she didn't want to fly across the country, so she had the set built in a hotel room.
100 000 I understand Beyonce, up to five million no, but they, they built out the podcast for Call Her Daddy, not not a who's your Daddy.
I made the same mistake.
They built it out to make it look like she was in studio right, a hundred thousand bucks.
Can you imagine though, what blows my mind?
Kamala Harris is so loathsome, so despicable and unlikable.
Even multi I mean a hundred millionaire, billionaire dollar celebrities need to get paid in order to appear with her, like she is the hated kid in high school that has to literally pay people to be her friends.
And Oprah is so flipping greedy she's worth however much she's worth.
She asks for a million bucks to uh, you know to appear on stage.
It's No one who goes out to watch Elon Musk or Trump speak ask to get paid, as far as I know.
And I did look into it.
The Washington Post put out a very deceptive article where they said influencers are making profits promoting Trump or Kamala.
And then you go into the article and then at the end of the article, it says Trump doesn't pay influencers for their content because he doesn't need to.
But these people, in addition to being wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, are greedy.
And she's so hated she could not find any organic support out there.
But there's something a little bit deceptive about buying a review.
It's like it would be like if a movie, if a movie was released and they paid movie reviewers to say, I loved it.
Two thumbs up.
As opposed to an organic review that someone actually loved it.
I think it's weird that all these Hollywood loved, as they're called in the UK, the lovies, I love that phrase.
We should bring it into North American discourse.
All these loved the Democrats, they wouldn't do so for free.
I mean, when Hulk Hogan or when some of these other right of center celebrities show up, they're not being paid a million bucks.
They're there because they believe in it.
They're there because they love the excitement.
They're stretching their legs politically for the first time.
There's something hollow about someone who is so scripted.
I wonder if she paid to get on Saturday Night Live on the last Saturday Night Live before the election.
They had a bunch of soft focus pieces to try to humanize her.
It hasn't come out yet that she paid her way, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did.
No, it wouldn't, but that was a campaign finance violation in any event because that was not an appearance.
That was circumventing equal airtime rules for the FCC.
But it's even worse.
Like, you know, the conservatives who come out and support Trump, not only do they not ask to get paid, but they actually sacrifice things to do so.
They sacrifice roles in Hollywood like James Woods, Chuck Woolery, Peter Thiel.
They sacrifice stuff to do it.
Not only do they not ask to get paid, but it's not just inorganic, insincere.
It's fraudulent.
This is mockingbird media level manipulation of public opinion.
And Ezra, I mean, I think it does happen in the movie industry.
That's why nobody listens to Rotten Tomatoes anymore.
And you know that when the critics say it's great, but the audience says it's terrible and inverse, you know why that's happening.
They do get paid.
They get blacklisted if they don't give proper reviews.
In the same way, they get paid or blacklisted if they decide not to support Kamala.
And I do think a lot of it is paid and a lot of it is extorted or favors bought in advance.
I don't think it's an accident that the overlap of the P. Diddy party list and the Kamala Harris supporters is what it was.
Whether or not it's blackmail or whether or not it's them saying, make this problem go away and I'll publicly appear for you.
It's not organic and it's not authentic.
You're so right.
You know, I like celebrities too, I guess.
I'm not really celebrity obsessed.
I mean, I like music.
If I go to a political rally, I think it's sort of cool if there is some music, but I'm really there for the message.
There's something demeaning and condescending in a bigotry of low expectations that you would think, well, I'm going to have a Beyoncé concert.
She actually didn't sing.
She just gave a speech.
I'm going to have a Beyoncé concert.
And that will be enough to make urban aka black voters vote for Kamala.
There's something condescending to saying, if I show you a concert, is that enough to make you convinced that I should be president?
And Joy Reed, the commentator, I think she's on MSNBC.
She said, how could that go wrong?
That was the perfect campaign here.
Take a look at this clip.
And so what you've seen in the last couple of weeks, if this is an audition for managing a complex organization like the United States, Kamala Harris has passed the audition flawlessly.
This has been in many ways a perfect campaign, a brief, and she had barely any time to put it together.
But just as a managerial matter, it's been brilliantly done.
She's reached out to every possible constituent.
She thought it was the perfect campaign to buy all her favorite Spotify playlists.
If someone had a really cool concert on, I'd love the concert, but I'm not going to switch my political ideology because someone played music for me.
Well, no, Joy Reid is an idiot, and I think she's even got the wrong assessment on this.
It's not, it was the only way to get people to Kamala Harris campaigns to get them to the events.
Kamala Harris, for all of her railing against Trump, only interested in campaign size and people are bored and leaving.
She was the only one fixated on the size of rallies.
She was the only one who had to literally dupe people into attending the rallies under the promise of music.
Trump, people wait.
They don't go there for the performances.
They go there to hear Elon Musk talk about the future of the world, Donald Trump.
The only way Kamala Harris could fill stadiums was with the promise and sometimes the empty promise of popular music.
The greatest thing about this election outcome is it's the double middle finger to all of them.
Taylor Swift, I guess her fans are a little bit smarter than she gave them credit for.
Cardi B, I don't know about her fans.
Lizzo, all the celebrities on earth with all of the gold and all of their idolatry did not sway the people.
And I think the people actually saw through it, especially when they show up to a Kamala Harris rally and Cardi B is there and doesn't perform.
That is salt in a wound.
You know, there's so many clips of Kamala Harris and Cardi B and some of her other celebrities when the teleprompter gets stuck.
And, you know, when I do monologues, I sometimes write out my monologue word for word and I put in little cues so that the editors know when to put a video clip or something.
But I write it myself.
I don't have a writer.
And I put in the prompter just so I don't forget something.
And sometimes I can get it right better if I write it.
But I know sometimes a teleprompter roller scroller is slow.
So you either have to riff or pause.
But what if you didn't write your own script?
What if you literally don't know what to say if you're Cardi B and you show up?
But it's not just Cardi.
Here's a clip of Cardi B waiting for the teleprompter.
It's broken.
So someone runs up with an iPhone with the speech on it.
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Take a quick look at her.
Here's that.
One second, guys.
One second.
Okay.
So I don't take lightly to call.
Sorry, guys.
I'm a little nervous.
I'm a little nervous, guys.
I've been waiting for this moment this whole life.
All life.
I need patience over here.
Patience, where are you, girl?
I need patience over here!
How you guys doing tonight?
How you guys doing tonight?
Are we ready to make history?
Are we ready to make history?
Are we ready to change these four years?
No, are we ready to change the next eight years?
because we're going to make sure we have Kamala Harris in office for eight years.
Thank you.
All right.
Vice President Kamala Harris, thank you for having me.
That's painful, but Cardi B is a musician, not a thinker-talker.
Here's Kamala Harris when the teleprompter freezes on her.
And unlike Trump, Trump can talk for an hour extemporaneously.
I mean, some of his jokes and stories and he loves talking about when he saw Elon Musk land the rocket, you know, in that big gantry.
Trump loves telling that.
Trump can talk your ear off.
Kamala Harris didn't have even 10 seconds worth of filler without the prompter.
Here's a clip of that.
Remember his number, 32.
Today we're in the election.
So 32 days.
32 days.
Okay, we got some business to do.
We got some business to do.
All right.
32 days.
And we know we will do it.
And this is going to be a very tight race until the very end.
This is going to be a very tight race until the very end.
We are the underdog, and we know we have some hard work ahead.
I mean, she really was an empty vessel.
Her cackling, her word salad, that hides the fact there is no there.
There's nothing inside her.
She's hollow.
Those are very, very embarrassing clips.
The worst is Cardi B, it was a full, what, 90 seconds of meltdown.
And it's not just that they didn't write their speeches.
It's totally inauthentic.
They don't not only believe in what they're saying, they don't know what they're saying.
But the inability to fill a 90-second void with something of coherent intermingling with the crowd, it illustrates a level of lack of intelligence that's meaningful.
But with Cardi B, who cares?
Kamala Harris, it's like you think, first of all, I never use a teleprompter because I find it distracting.
Like there's nothing more distracting than having to read.
It's in the head.
I can think it.
I can see it before I say it.
Kamala Harris doesn't even understand policy, doesn't even understand geopolitics to fill 30 seconds of airspace.
Trump sat down with Rogan for three hours, whether or not you thought the conversation...
No one else in the room to help.
That's how Rogan does it.
No one in the room to help.
No one to flag and say, stop asking questions, Rogan.
Nobody to interfere.
And whether or not you thought somebody was meandering, when you answer a question, sometimes the answer meanders.
Kamala Harris had no understanding of anything.
And that meltdown that she had on the 60 Minutes interview, we have to find a deal.
Dana, we have to get a deal.
Just deal, deal, deal.
What's that deal look like?
It looks like a deal.
She was vapid, but above that, detestable, just detestable person.
You know, I forget, I think it was Joel Pollock who said, and it clicked with me.
He said, it's not so much that people hate Kamala.
It's clear that she sort of, I'm not sure about hates people, but she doesn't like people.
She doesn't like the voter.
Whereas Trump, when Trump is serving at the McDonald's drive-thru, when Trump is sitting in the garbage truck, he's having the time of his life.
He's chuckling, but he's not condescending.
He's having, because he's been doing this his whole life.
Donald Trump, you can see pictures of him in his 20s with a suit and a tie and a hard hat, talking to the welders and the builders and the construction guys.
Donald Trump is a blue-collar billionaire, as much as that sounds like an oxymoron.
You can tell he loves people.
He's flattering to them, but he tries to find common ground with them.
He can talk to people of the highest level, but there's something beautiful about watching him talk to poor people.
I love those video clips of him talking to intellectually disabled people, mentally retarded people.
I watch those and his humanity comes through.
It's a different term.
He tries to find common ground and make that kid.
You typically meet with mentally retarded kids and to see the love he shines on them.
For the rest of their life, they'll remember that moment of kindness.
Trump's got that.
And I'm not being a fanboy here.
I'm telling you something about his personality that's wonderful.
You know, the clip that has now gone viral again was a 2019.
I think it was an, I want to say APAC, but it was a Jewish event and, you know, two or three kids with Down syndrome, a blind woman comes on stage.
And it's like, it's natural, it's authentic, and it doesn't look contrived.
Kamala Harris, she's like the Montgomery Burns out of The Simpsons.
Like touching the regular people is nauseating to her.
She's, by all accounts, an awful boss, impossible to work with, a fundamentally nasty person.
And I think that's what happens when you don't succeed in life as a result of merit.
I don't know which one comes first, but when you've never actually earned what you've got, you don't appreciate the hard work that goes into it.
And when you've succeeded in life because of your body and not because of your mind, which she did, and I don't care if anybody thinks that that's slut shaming, that's how she came up in life.
You don't know how to interact with people and you don't know how to be a compassionate position, person in the position of authority.
You don't get to be what Trump is if you don't actually, A, have your ear to the ground when you're doing construction.
Find out what's going on.
Find out where the problems are.
Find out that everything is working together seamlessly.
You don't get to do that unless you're good with people.
And the worse you are with people, the worse you are at doing that, which would impede your success in life.
There's a reason why Trump is where he is and got there the way he got there.
And there's a reason why Kamala Harris is where she is by getting there the way she got there.
Yeah.
You know, we've been talking about Kamala Harris because it's a lot of fun, but I don't think we really need to talk to her, talk about her.
I think here's an image of her sitting next to Jill Biden.
I think this was at a memorial event.
And it couldn't have been frostier, the two of them sitting next to each other.
And I see in the news that Melania Trump has declined to attend a tea.
There's a tradition in the White House, I'm told, that the outgoing first lady has a tea luncheon for the incoming First Lady.
And it's ceremonial.
It's the equivalent of the transition team that the presidents have.
And Melania Trump has declined to do that, citing the abusive raid on Mar-a-Lago, where they even went through Melania's clothing drawer.
And so I think it's absolutely fitting that Jill Biden is freezing out Kamala Harris and Melania Trump is freezing out Joe Biden.
And the sooner that the Bidens and Kamala are relegated to the dustbin of history, the better as far as I'm concerned.
Well, first of all, my joke is whatever happened to Tim Waltz.
He has disappeared from public consciousness overnight.
But no, can you blame Melania?
You're going to go have tea with the people who are calling your husband Hitler?
First of all, I wouldn't drink anything that they gave me to drink.
I wouldn't eat anything that they gave me to eat.
It would be like a BYOT.
I'm going to bring my own tea to a tea party with someone who's calling my husband Hitler for the last however many years.
So, no, it would be a big fat middle finger to both of them, politely so.
But, you know, they will leave office.
The dynamic between Kamala and Joe, everybody knows, at least from what I understand, they loathe each other.
They hate each other, and as do their respective significant others.
It is amazing.
It's what happens among scoundrels.
They end up devouring their own.
But no, I wouldn't do it either, even as a matter of principle.
These people don't get to walk back from the things that they said.
And now they really have to go and live among the people that they've just spent the better part of a decade at demonizing.
You know, Donald Trump is working furiously at Mar-a-Lago.
I understand he did 70 world leader phone calls in the first week.
That's quite a heavy pace because you've got to not just schedule that, but you've got to plan.
What am I trying to say?
What am I trying to get?
Like, you can't just have a chit-chat.
You want to, if you're talking to the king of Saudi Arabia, if you're talking to the prime minister of the UK, they're going to, you have to sort of line up.
Okay, what do they want?
What do I want?
Can we have a productive meeting?
Like, maybe it was just a 30-second chit-chat, but I doubt it.
Like, that's heavy intellectual work that takes a lot of staff and planning.
In addition, he is starting to name his team, his cabinet, his chief of staff.
I'm excited about his deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, who was a very hardline policy activist in Trump's first term.
Let me show you a clip of Stephen Miller, just a sample of him fighting like a tiger on one of these pundits' panels.
I mean, obviously, his work in the White House is more important than his work on TV.
But if this is what he's like behind the scenes, it's pretty awesome.
Here's Stephen Miller.
The people that you don't connect with and understand, the people whose manufacturing jobs have left, who've been besieged by high-crime communities, and who've been affected by a policy of uncontrolled immigration, those voices, those experiences don't get covered on this network.
That's why, I mean, to prove the point, I was booked to talk about the very issues I'm just describing, and you're not even asking about them because they're not interesting facts to you.
That's not true.
I have plenty of questions on immigration.
You've attempted to filibuster by talking about your flights.
No, I'm not.
I want to ask a question because don't be condescending.
Jay, Stephen, Jay, president and the White House.
The president of the White House.
The reason why I want to talk about the president's experiences, what I've seen with him traveling to meet dozens of foreign leaders with his incredible work.
Okay, you're not answering the questions.
I understand.
You have 24 hours a day of anti-Seven material.
You're not going to give three minutes for the American people to get to the bottom of the real experience of Donald Trump.
There's one viewer that you care about right now, and you're being obsequious or being a factor in order to please him.
Okay, and I've cared about wasted enough of my viewers.
You know who I care about?
As Republicans lawmakers call for Jared Jeff Sessions to resign.
Yeah, so it's not the namby-pamby approach that, well, frankly, other Republicans have.
I see the nomination of Marco Rubio for Secretary of State.
He's probably too much of a war hawk for my taste.
You know, but it's still early days.
Hey, Tom Holman for Borders Are.
Let me just show you a clip of him.
He was talking on 60 Minutes a few weeks ago about how he would do mass deportations.
Let me show you a clip of Tom Holman.
Oh my God, look at this guy.
We have seen one estimate that says it would cost $88 billion to deport a million people a year.
I don't know if that's accurate or not.
Is that what American taxpayers should expect?
What price do you put on our national security?
Is that worth it?
Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?
Of course there is.
Families can be deported together.
You know, I had the pleasure of meeting him a few months ago at a convention, and he's like that.
And I thought, this guy's so tough.
Would he be allowed to be this tough if he were in the second Trump administration?
Well, so far, the answer is yes.
Let me ask you as a Canadian, do you think this is going to spark another wave of refugees coming, refugees, migrants from America, people who were about to be deported by Tom Holman, coming across to Canada?
Like, for example, all the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.
Maybe not all of them have legal status.
Do you think they're going to say, well, let's go to Montreal?
They speak French there.
There's a Haitian community there.
Let's get out.
What do you think is going to happen?
It's interesting.
First of all, it was already happening.
Like Eric Adams, before he got indicted, was already shipping illegals up to the border of Quebec and paying for their bus tickets and saying, crossover, go be Canada's problem.
It might be too late for that now because you got Trudeau in the most disgusting of 180-degree boat, what is it called?
Volta Fast.
Is now saying we can't have any more immigrants or illegals or migrants in Canada.
So that ship might have sailed.
But Holman is the paradigm of a badass, but tough, but fair.
He's the type of person you actually want to have as a father, as a coach, as a teacher.
In the 60-minute interview, he's like, I won't separate them.
They're going to get deported together.
And in his AOC exchange, like, I'm sorry, every time I arrest somebody for DUI, domestic violence, whatever, I'm separating a family.
That's what happens when a parent breaks the law.
So go back and come at a port of entry legally if you're claiming asylum.
And that's that, the end of it.
But it's like, you know, Trump on the phone.
I agree.
You know, a lot of prep has to go into that, but a lot of it is just having an understanding of the overall geopolitics.
He knows who these people are.
He knows what their concerns are.
And he knows what his goal is.
And, you know, as they say now, daddy's home and there will be some order in this house.
And Trump is bringing it even before he steps foot back into the White House.
Yeah.
You mentioned the exchange between Tom Holman and Alexandria Okezio-Cortez.
It was so delicious.
I just got to play it for you now here.
Take a look.
Mr. Holman, your name is on this.
Is this correct?
Yes, I signed that memo.
So you are the author of the family separation policy?
I am not the author of this memo.
You're not the author, but you signed the memo.
Yes, a zero tolerance memo.
So you provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen for the United States to pursue family separation.
I gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the border and save lives.
But it says here that you gave her numerous options, but the recommendation was option three, family separation.
What I'm saying, this is not the only paper where we've given the Secretary numerous options to secure the border and save lives.
And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended, you recommended family separation.
I recommend a zero tolerance.
Which includes family separation.
The same as is whatever U.S. citizen parent gets arrested when they're with a child.
Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their parents.
If I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car, I won't be separated.
When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence, I separated that.
Mr. Holman, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime.
When you're in the country illegally, it's violation eight United States Code 1325.
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Seeking asylum is legal.
If you want to seek asylum, go through the port of entry, do it the legal way.
The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear.
Okay.
Yeah, that guy is serious about his job.
There will be a lot of attempts to undermine him.
Like you say, we haven't seen the riots yet.
Don't think that Alex Soros and the rest of the Democrat machine have given up.
They will try to clog up that deportation because that's the key to everything.
That's their key for driving left-wing policy, for turning Texas blue, for turning all the battleground states blue.
So immigration is such a key issue.
I see two different ways that a foreign leader can go.
Take Kier Starmer, the new prime minister of the UK, and his foreign secretary, David Lamy.
We played this clip of David Lamy before calling Trump a neo-Nazi misogynist.
Just a reminder, this guy who you would think is a student council rep, because he's so childish, this man is actually the new foreign secretary.
Take a look.
Donald Trump has been tearing up all of the accords that we maintained on climate change.
If you care about climate change, you care about the future of this world, then you must stand against Donald Trump.
This is a man that is someone who thinks it's okay to describe women in the most horrendous of ways, their body parts, to speak about them in a misogynistic and deeply offensive fashion.
This is the Donald Trump that we are rolling out the red carpet for.
And you know, we don't always give a state visit to American presidents.
That was afforded to George W. Bush.
It was afforded to the great John Kennedy.
It was afforded to Barack Obama.
But we don't do it for all presidents.
Lyndon Johnson, Ford, Carter did not get one.
So why?
Why is Theresa May putting Donald Trump in this position, this pivotal position, having him alongside the Queen and all the great dignitaries across the country and in the corporation of London sitting alongsiding him and lauding him for this shameful behavior on that international stage?
We stand with the American people, but we absolutely say that our democratic values are opposed to the misogyny, opposed to the racism.
Well, that was him then.
Now Keir Starmer and David Lamy are so obsequious.
They're talking about how Donald Trump is their bestest friend, and he's so funny and he's so warm.
That's one approach to dealing with Trump.
The other is to try and be, well, I'm going to be the anti-Trump.
It sounds like, but what's your opinion?
Do you think Justin Trudeau is going to be obsequious like Keir Starmer and David Lamy and try and suck up now?
Or is he going to be the anti-Trump?
No, he's already started sucking up.
And I am proud to say I ratioed him on that tweet where he says, oh, congratulations, Trump.
Or we have a good relationship with America.
And I'm like, first of all, you represent everything that Trump's election was a revolt against.
You're a globalist.
You're a tyrant.
And nobody ever wants to hear from you again.
I don't think Trudeau is going to be in office for much longer.
Like 2025 is going to be his last year.
So he's going to be obsequious because he's a disgusting snake and that's what he does.
And the governors in America who say, well, now we're going to be the anti-Trumpers, they don't yet understand it was a mandate.
And even in California, 40% voted for Trump.
Yeah, it's incredible.
The amazing thing is they call him a Nazi and a misogynist.
And he appoints Susan Wiles and Stephen Miller, a Jew and a woman.
But considering they called Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy, they have no standards.
If they call you a Nazi, everything you do has to be Nazi-esque, even hiring Jews and women.
But they're idiots.
They should never be forgiven.
Kier Starmer is a rabid tyrant who, you know, every day he spends as leading the UK is a day spent leading it into the sewer.
And now they might actually start to see that there is a populist revolution, a populist uprising throughout the world.
And it's materializing in the states and every other country that purports to love freedom is going to be next.
Yeah.
Now, so you think that Trudeau is going to be a sucker, but one of the lines of attack that the liberals have tried to use against Pierre Polyev, the Conservative leader, is to call him, and this is so lame, I'm sorry I didn't write this, I didn't make this up, Maple MAGA.
I don't know if you've heard that.
I've heard that.
Maple MAGA.
I've never heard anyone in the wild say that.
I've never heard any journalists.
That's only the Liberal Party thinks that's so bloody clever.
They're calling him Trump-like.
Can they keep using Trump as an insult word towards Pierre Polyev and maintain relations with the Trump administration?
That's a question I have for you.
Do you think that they're going to abandon it?
See, you could run against Trump.
Like, Justin Trudeau could go into election next year running against Trump, by which he means Pierre Polyet trying to paint Polyev as a Trump guy.
Like that seems to be a playbook that's pretty tempting to them, no?
The funny thing is I've never heard anybody say Maple MAGA except for Christia Freeland.
She said it not once, but at least twice from what I could dig up on the internet.
It's so hilarious.
The idiocy about it is I think a great many conservatives or freedom-loving Canadians would love the name Maple MAGA.
I mean, I'll put it on some merch, actually, now that I think about it.
But I do think they dropped the Trump-esque, you know, importing Trump politics into Canada for two reasons.
I don't think they can do it anymore.
They can't run against now their neighbor that they want to maintain good relationships with by importing that toxic divisive politics.
Flip side, I think Pierre Polyev has pretty much shown his cards to not be anything Trumpian whatsoever in what I feel to be this McCarthyist witch hunt against Russian disinformation in Canada via Ryan Chen.
I saw that too.
You know, they were grilling Lauren Channel.
And I don't necessarily have any time for Lauren Shannon.
And I wouldn't be surprised if she was taking money from the Russians to have a fake news organization.
She worked for Russia Today before.
But to take someone who's under criminal investigation, put them in parliament and expect them to answer questions that could incriminate themselves, you would never do that to any other person who's in like that's just I understand what the Tories were trying to do.
They were trying to show that they're not Russian dupes, but it's insane for them to expect someone to incriminate themselves before they've had charges or trial.
I was just not just that.
It's something that dirty liberals would do.
And congratulations, Raquel Danko of the conservatives.
You've partaken in this in a very active and a very dishonest way.
Even the questions that Danko and the were asking, they were unfair, loaded, presupposed guilt.
Whereas we're only dealing with an indictment.
So, no, but the bottom line, like I wish the conservatives up in Canada were remotely Trump-esque.
It seems that the only one there is Maxine Bernier, who's sticking true to principles, despite the popularity of those principles, them being principles.
So, no, I think Trudeau is a snake.
He's going to do whatever he thinks is good for his political career.
Also, I think he's not going to be long for office anymore.
I think he's that awful.
And I think also, look, unless they're absolutely economically suicidal, they're going to work with the Trump administration because they want to bring back some energy independence to Canada, the jobs that would come with it, and bring back the Keystone pipeline.
It would be a pretty stupid thing to do politically to maintain an adversarial relationship with the country that might very well be bringing back economic wealth despite your best efforts, Canada.
And Trudeau claims he doesn't oppose that pipeline.
He basically let Obama do the dirty work on canceling it.
I got one last question for you.
And I think I know the answer based on your views and your content.
Give me your thoughts on RFK Jr.
He really, in my view, expanded the emotional and partisan spectrum available to Trump.
He's such an interesting character.
I think he carries himself with a kind of nobility and a public service dedication that feels of an earlier era.
He's smart.
He's tough.
Give me 30 seconds or 60 seconds on the future of RFK Jr. in a Trump administration.
I have grown to love him.
I never even had anything against him, but now I fully appreciate that the people that the media have spent an inordinate amount of time at demonizing tend to be the best of the people.
Tommy Robinson is another one.
The goodness of the person is directly proportionate to the amount of negative media coverage they got.
RFK Jr. is not a science denier.
He's actually more science-based than any of the so-called trust the science people who believe you can cut off a kid's penis and call him a girl.
He's not a vaccine denier and he's not anything of a kook.
He's a very sincere, principled man.
He's eloquent, thoughtful.
People fault him for his position on abortion and I appreciate people.
That's one where people butt heads, regardless of how nuanced your position is.
I think he's come around on the Second Amendment, but I think RFK Jr. is amazing.
He's going to be an invaluable asset to the Trump administration in one way or the other.
He was an invaluable asset to the Trump election.
You get an RFK who brings in however millions of votes he has.
Tulsi Gabbard, you are part of this massive victory.
But I do like him.
I have yet to see anything that I don't like about him.
The fact that he changes positions is not necessarily a flaw, depending on how quickly you change positions or quickly you take positions without knowing all of the details.
I like him.
And that's it.
Full stop.
Yeah.
And I think he was a very principled force during the COVID mania.
I think he was a stabilizing, thoughtful, contrarian voice.
That I think he, in fact, I've said that by Trump affiliating with RFK Jr., it's almost like Trump doing a penance for Trump's own role in the COVID lockdowns and the vaccine mandates.
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And that is my philosophy and MO on Twitter.
But those are the places.
Google Viva Fry, you'll find me everywhere.
And that's VivaFry F-R-E-I for those who wonder the spelling.
Great to see you.
Thanks for taking so much time with us.
It's nice to see you again.
Thank you very much, Ezekiel.
It's great to see you.
All right.
There you have it.
Viva Fry, otherwise known as David Fryheit, a Canadian freedom fighter down in Florida, which is probably the freest place in the world right now.
That's our show for today.
Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.