Ezra Levant examines Trump’s election momentum, one week before voting, as diverse supporters—including Jewish attendees at Madison Square Garden—reject Democratic Nazi comparisons and embrace his pro-Israel policies. Joel Pollack critiques Harris’s fear-based ads (like Man Enough) and her struggles with male voters, contrasting them with Trump’s direct, policy-focused outreach via platforms like Rogan’s podcast. Media shifts, from Bezos’s neutral Post stance to Musk’s pro-Trump super PAC, signal growing voter disillusionment with partisan media, while Harris’s divisive rhetoric risks societal fragmentation regardless of election outcome. [Automatically generated summary]
It's one week until the U.S. presidential election.
I'm very excited about it.
And I'm nervous because, boy, it's on a knife's edge.
I don't want to get my hopes too high.
I'm going to have a feature conversation today with our friend, Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large of Breitbart.com.
We're going to review some of the new TV ads, especially some crazy ones in support of Kamala Harris.
These are just unbelievable.
You got to see them with your eyes to believe them.
They're real, by the way.
I thought they were Saturday Night Live skits.
But to see them, you need the video version of this podcast.
Go to RebelNewsPlus.com.
Rebel News Plus.
That's what we call our video version of the podcast.
Go there and click subscribe.
It's eight bucks a month.
And I know that might not sound like a lot of money to you, but boy, it's a lot for us when it adds up.
So please go to RebelNewsPlus.com, click subscribe.
Not only do you get the great content that we show you, not just tell you, but you support Rebel News because we don't get any money from the government and its shows.
All right.
Here's today's podcast.
Tonight, one week to go to the U.S. election, we'll talk to Joel Pollack and we'll review a bunch of Kamala Harris's TV ads.
It's October 29th, and this is the Ads for Levance Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Well, our friend Avi Amini continues to crisscross the United States in an RV.
American Community Dynamics00:15:27
And I have to say, I visited him in two cities.
I met him in San Francisco and again in Vegas.
And I sort of wish I could run away and spend a month going town to town in America talking to severely normal people about the election.
What I love about doing streeters is that if you go someplace in your private life as a tourist, nothing compels you to talk to 30 people.
It would be really weird if you did.
They'd think you were sort of nuts.
But if you've got a microphone, you're allowed to and people want to talk to you.
And I think Abby's having the time of his life.
And by the way, he's doing some great journalism.
Here he is outside Madison Square Gardens in New York City at the historic Trump rally there.
What is he doing going for a rally in the bluest city, I guess, on the East Coast?
Take a look at Abby having some fun with Republicans, Trump, Trump or Trumpeters in New York.
Take a look.
USA!
Mr. Donald Trump is keep doing what you're doing.
You're doing something right.
That's why the establishment attacking you.
The CIA Markenberg media is attacking Donald Trump and we the people.
I'm a bit confused because I was told that a Trump crowd would be full of white supremacists, but it's quite diverse.
Yeah, it's exactly the opposite.
That's why you can't listen to the mainstream news.
You got to listen to people like you, Rebel News.
The Democrats said Trump is a Nazi.
What are you guys doing in law?
I'm waiting to see it right here.
So the fact that Trump's, that they're saying that shows the ignorance and what they think.
It is complete disgrace.
They have no right to say that.
Trump did nothing wrong.
He's a good guy.
He supports the Jewish community.
He supports Israel.
Now, like the other side, all talk, talk, but they're not, they do not do the walk.
It's about time we got law, order, peace, stability in this country, and we bring the world to a safer place.
Trump 2024.
You know, we live in the opposite world.
Everything that she said is basically that you could guarantee it's going to be the opposite of what's actually going on.
So if she's saying Trump is a Nazi, then I'm saying the right line.
If he was a racist, he would have never signed the First Step Act.
He would have never signed the Prison Reform Act.
USA!
USA!
Absolutely packed to the rafters.
I think one of the reasons why Abby was emphasizing some of the Jews he saw in line is because the whole media accused Trump of having a fascist echo.
Because some 80 or 90 years ago, someone else had a rally in Madison Square Gardens.
I think it was Charles Lindbergh for an American first sort of pro-Nazi meeting.
Joining us to talk about that and all other things related to the presidential election is our friend Joel Pollock, senior editor-at-large at Reitbart.com.
Hey, Joel, I've got a question for you.
Is the Democrat last home-stretched tactic of accusing Trump of being a Nazi?
They wouldn't do it if they didn't think it was going to work.
Is it working to call Trump a Nazi?
That's a great question, and the answer is we don't know because we don't know what the vote result is going to be.
We won't know until Tuesday at the earliest.
We may not know for several more weeks because many of these states that use vote by mail are going to take a long time to count the ballots.
There are going to be challenges and so forth.
But I do think it works for Democrats.
And that's because the charge that your opponent is Hitler and that his supporters are Nazis is so inflammatory that the only reason you bring that charge out is you're losing, number one.
But number two, you're prepared to risk everything to fight to win.
And so the way Democrats are interpreting this line of attack is not that they actually believe that Trump is Hitler and that his supporters are Nazis, although some of them are doing a very, very good job of convincing themselves that it is so.
But the main reason they like it is that it shows that their candidate and their party are fighting hard.
They're even willing to give up on governing after they win, as long as they win, because you can't really govern a country once you've called half of the country Nazis.
You can't work with people across the aisle.
The only thing that this tactic can possibly do is frighten voters into voting for you.
And Democrats like to see that.
They like to see that their party is willing to risk everything, even the fate of the country, the fate of their future potential government, to win.
But it doesn't help them with independence.
It doesn't help them with undecided voters.
And it doesn't help them with voters in swing states.
It is a purely base turnout kind of a tactic.
Will it be enough?
I don't know.
Nobody really knows.
I do think you can pick up, not just because of media hype, but you can pick up a sense of enthusiasm that has returned to the Democratic base once they started going after Trump because they say he is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis.
This is the core of the argument against Trump.
It's not a policy argument.
It's basically an argument that this guy is disruptive and disruption equals fear and anything can happen if you let this guy back in.
And that's the pitch in the last week.
It's not the pitch of a winning campaign.
It's the pitch of a losing campaign.
But just like the Washington commanders throwing a Hail Mary at the end of the last football game against my Chicago Bears, sometimes those Hail Mary passes do work and they could win based on this tactic.
I think that most Democrat operatives do not believe it, but some people do.
I mean, if all you do is read columnists and commentators and pundits telling you he is like a Nazi, he is a rapist, he is a convicted felon or whatever you want to say, I think some people will internalize that.
I saw a fascinating exchange between Mark Halperin and Tucker Carlson, where Halperin said: if Trump wins, it will create a genuine mental health crisis for a certain number of Americans, millions, maybe tens of millions.
You know, we laugh at those sort of memes of young college woke kids screaming when Trump was elected.
But it's not just woke college kids.
There are people.
Here's a clip of Halperin.
He's predicting divorces.
He's predicting mass depression.
Because what does it mean for you and your country if you actually live in a country that votes for a Nazi?
Here's a quick clip of Mark Halperin.
I find them very convincing.
Take a look.
Let's say Trump wins three weeks from today.
What happens?
The Democratic Party just, I mean, as you said, a lot of Democrats, maybe the majority, believe that Trump becoming president again is the worst thing that ever could happen.
So how do they respond to that?
I say this not flippantly.
I think it will be the cause of the greatest mental health crisis in the history of the country.
I don't.
I think tens of millions of people will question their connection to the nation, their connection to other human beings, their connection to their vision of what their future for them and their children could be like.
And I think that will require an enormous amount of access to mental health professionals.
I think it'll lead to trauma in the workplace.
I think there'll be some degree of 100% serious.
100% serious.
I think there'll be alcoholism.
There'll be broken marriages.
What?
Yeah.
I think there are some people who genuinely think that Trump is a reincarnation of Hitler, even though he didn't do any Hitler-like things in his first term.
In fact, he was friends with the Jews.
I think you're right, though.
It revs up those people.
It'll help stimulate turnout.
But what's interesting is Trump, I think, is a great friend of the Jews.
He visited a very religious Jewish sort of monument in the New York area recently.
But Trump has also had some luck with Muslims and Arabs, too, at the same time.
Here is Donald Trump at a rally in Michigan where Arab American leaders were saying, vote for Trump, not Kamala Harris.
Take a look at this.
Joel, I'd like your help to understand this.
Take a look.
Good afternoon, Michiganders.
As the president said, we just had a positive meeting with President Trump.
We as Muslims stand with President Trump because he promises peace.
He promises peace, not war.
We are supporting Donald Trump because he promised to end war in the Middle East and Ukraine.
The bloodshed has to stop all over the world.
And I think this man can make that happen.
I personally believe that God saved his life twice for a reason.
How can it be that Jews really like Trump?
I mean, some of them are quite effusive.
And yet, Arab Americans are saying, vote for Trump.
I mean, the guy there said, if you want peace, and I think that's pretty much a good answer.
But the Democrats are so much more Islamist than Trump.
What do you make of that rally where they said, vote for Trump?
There are several things going on here.
First of all, many Muslim American voters and Arab American voters are actually conservatives.
And I learned this firsthand in 2019 on the campaign trail when I went to a mosque and saw a town hall meeting with one of the Democratic presidential candidates.
And the first question was a question about terrorism and terrorism watch lists, and it reflected the priorities of a community that is still intertwined with some elements of radical Islam.
That was certainly a different and unique kind of issue to come up in a town hall.
But the rest of the questions were all questions about why taxes are too high, why the government is wasting our money.
questions about small business regulation.
Arab American and Muslim American voters are conservatives, not just fiscally, but also socially.
There are many towns in Michigan, where there are a lot of Muslim and Arab American communities, that are upset at the transgender mandates coming down from the Biden administration.
They don't want biological males in girls' bathrooms or on girls' team sports.
So the Muslim and Arab American communities are finding a lot of common ground with the Republican message on issues other than the Middle East.
Now, on the Middle East, there's something interesting happening.
It is still true that I would say the majority of Arab and Muslim American voters who care about the Middle East are either going to vote for Democrats or are not going to vote at all or are going to vote for third-party candidates.
But there are some who are saying two things.
Number one, it doesn't do any good to vote for third-party candidates or no party at all.
If you really want to hurt Kamala Harris and Joe Biden for their support of Israel, you have to vote for the other side.
These elections may have other choices, but essentially they are binary choices.
And if you really want to punish the Democrats for supporting Israel as they see it, of course, from my perspective, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have not been supportive enough.
But from their perspective, they want to punish the Biden-Harris administration.
And the best way to do it is to cost them votes, not just to withhold votes.
Now, there's something else that's also very interesting that's going on.
The Muslim American leadership of the United States is starting to become very politically sophisticated in a way that, regrettably, my own Jewish community is not.
And that is, they understand that Donald Trump is a transactional politician.
And so if you do something for him, he will do something for you.
That's the basis on which Trump built bridges to conservatives.
It's the basis on which he built a pro-Israel policy in his first term.
What Trump has seen from the American Jewish community in general, there have been exceptions, but what he is seeing from the mainstream institutions of the Jewish community is that these institutions aren't thanking him for helping the community.
They're not thanking him for helping Israel.
The people on the street that Avi Amidi interviewed, ordinary Jewish people understand.
But the establishment leadership of the Jewish community is condemning Donald Trump.
They are following the Democratic playbook because they are deeply, deeply invested in the success of the Democratic Party.
They are owned in many ways by the Democratic Party.
And so they have spurned Donald Trump.
They have not thanked him.
Again, there are exceptions on the political right within the Jewish community, the Republican Jewish Coalition, the Zionist Organization of America, but the mainstream Jewish institutions have been downright nasty to Donald Trump.
The Muslim American leadership in this country is starting to look at that and realizing there is a gap and we can fill that gap and we can approach Donald Trump and say, you know what?
We are going to support you because we understand that you bring peace.
After all, he did bring peace for four years.
We are going to support you and after the election, we are going to have a seat at the table this time.
I think the American Jewish community has made a disastrous political choice by opposing Donald Trump so vociferously that it has created an opening for the Muslim American community, for the Arab American community,
who have every right to participate in politics and do deserve a seat at the table as ordinary Americans, but who will now have a greater say on Middle East policy, I believe, potentially, in the next Trump administration, because the Jewish American leadership has simply been ungracious and has not shown gratitude toward the things that Donald Trump has done.
He's still going to be pro-Israel, but he's going to be listening to other voices in the room this time.
And when Jewish leaders want to look around for someone to blame, they should find a handy mirror because they will only have themselves to blame.
Wow.
Very, very thoughtful.
And I think there's echoes of that in Canada and certainly in the United Kingdom as well.
One of the interesting things is how podcasts, that is sort of amateur people with video or audio shows, including comedians, have really been a big part of the campaign, especially for the Donald Trump side.
I think Kamala Harris has really resisted doing interviews, but I saw Donald Trump sit down with Theo Vaughn.
JD Vance sat down with Theo Vaughn.
He's a sort of a kooky and somewhat dirty comedian.
And just an hour, they talk politics, but they also banter.
And I think it really humanized them.
JD Vance, who's being called weird by the Democrats, I think he came off great.
There was an interview that Donald Trump did with Joe Rogan.
I'm not sure how long it was.
I think it was almost three hours long.
That takes stamina.
If you have an irascible or irritating personality, you can't control that for three hours.
You have a chance to really show who you are.
And that interview with Joe Rogan, I think it was a hit for Trump.
It was very popular.
YouTube almost immediately made it disappear.
It doesn't show up in the search engines, which tells you a lot.
Kamala Harris has avoided these things.
Why Democrats Missed Kamala Harris00:15:00
What do you think is going to happen?
I think it's normalizing and humanizing Trump and Vance.
And I think that Kamala Harris is basically trying to hide from microphones as much as possible.
What do you think?
Well, that's certainly true.
And what Donald Trump has done is he's gone outside the mainstream media, which until 2016 really was the filter for American politicians to reach the American people.
He realizes that our media landscape is now very splintered, and these podcasts have massive audiences.
He has also reached out to these audiences because he's doing better among male voters who are overrepresented in some of the podcast audiences.
So Joe Rogan's 50 million male listeners, for example, now know more about Donald Trump than they did before.
There were certain things said on that podcast, like debunking the very fine people hoax, which you and I have talked about, which some listeners may not have been aware of before, but now they know about it.
So Donald Trump has been very successful.
And look, in a way, he's taking a page out of Barack Obama's playbook.
Barack Obama, even though he was beloved by the mainstream media, would almost never grant them interviews.
It was Barack Obama who first did interviews with YouTube personalities and obscure internet stars.
He would talk to Entertainment Tonight.
Barack Obama showed that there are many other media in this country outside of the broadcast networks and the cable news networks.
And you can reach more people, especially low-propensity voters, if you go outside the mainstream media channels.
If Donald Trump wins this election, it will largely be because of voters that did not vote in 2016 or 2020 and who are only coming into the process now because they're upset with the way the country's going, but also because Donald Trump is reaching them.
Kamala Harris isn't even trying.
You know, you said something that I think is very interesting, and it's that men are not warming to Kamala Harris.
And I think there's some deep ingrained things.
There's sort of a naggy, screechy thing.
I mean, every man alive, there's a certain sound, I think, that gets under men's skin.
I mean, I think it might be genetically programmed, just like as a baby's cry is a motivation for people to take care of a baby.
It's deep in their bones.
I think Kamala Harris reminds people of their first wife.
Kamala Harris reminds people of take out the garbage, mow the lawn.
I asked you to take the laundry.
Like it's just a nagging, haggling, heckling.
And that laugh.
I know it's not fair, but I think that a lot of men just want to not hear her.
I don't know if that's a sexist thing to say, but I think it's a phenomenon.
Let me put it slightly differently.
First of all, I think men are prepared to vote for a female candidate.
There are women in politics and media who are beloved by men.
Look at Megan Kelly.
Megan Kelly has one of the most successful podcasts in American media.
She was at Fox.
She was the golden girl.
She was the big star.
And in many ways, she was anti-Trump back in 2015, 2016.
She almost built her brand around the idea that Hillary Clinton was going to be the next president.
And when that didn't happen and her career at Fox fell apart, she picked up the pieces and started her own podcast.
And when you listen to her podcast, she's often hanging out with guys, with male analysts, with big guys from the political world.
And what she has done is she has shown that she can be one of the guys.
And so men love her podcast.
It doesn't hurt that she's attractive and she's affable and she has a sense of humor and she can swear as well as any sailor, but she's also one of the guys.
She has shown male qualities like strength, tolerance.
She can take a joke.
She can take a punch.
She can throw a punch.
She is a great example of the kind of persona that attracts men in politics and in media.
You can do that.
Kamala Harris is, look, I'm still on wife number one.
My wife also takes me, tells me to take out the trash.
In fact, I just took it out a few minutes ago.
But, you know, that's not the issue.
The issue is, can you attract people who want to be themselves around you?
And all you have to do to understand why men don't like Kamala Harris is look at Doug Emhoff.
Okay.
The second gentleman.
He is not just her husband.
He is the new paragon of masculinity, according to Democrats.
Democrats consider him the country's hottest sex symbol.
All right.
This guy makes speeches about how bad toxic masculinity is.
And he talks about how much he tries to support his wife, but how she yells at him and how he always messes up.
I mean, this guy is the ultimate beta male, at least in terms of his persona.
But then all of these allegations come out about how he impregnated the nanny in his first marriage and how he was nasty to women at his firm.
And there are allegations from an ex-girlfriend that he slapped her so hard that she spun around.
The flip side of this kind of wimpy masculinity is a deep and dark cruelty that is the worst of masculinity.
And it's not what most men are or aspire to be.
And that's the bind that Democrats have put men in.
Men can't be themselves around Democrats.
It actually doesn't have very much to do with male or female.
What Megan Kelly understands and what other female politicians and hosts understand is that you have to develop a natural bond with men and allow them to be who they are.
If you try to force them into this box of, you know, as we like to say, the pajama boy who is one of the Barack Obama icons selling Obamacare, sitting in his pajamas, drinking hot chocolate and not doing a job, I mean, we're going to reject that.
We're also going to reject the over-the-top displays of masculinity of a Tim Waltz who goes pheasant hunting and can't load his own shotgun or tries to play football with AOC on Madden and doesn't even know how to score a touchdown and claims that she's calling a pick six play.
You don't call a pick six.
That's just a defensive play.
You know, you don't plan for it in advance.
I mean, these over-the-top attempts to appeal to men by doing what they think are male activities, you know, you just have to have a certain way about you.
And it's not that she's a woman or a first wife.
She's simply an intolerant person because her party is intolerant.
And she's so inauthentic.
You know what it is?
She's inauthentic.
I don't know.
I really don't know what she's like.
I don't think anyone has.
Look, I think Trump said something very nice about her.
And I think Trump is correct.
He was asked probably the most interesting question Trump got in the entire campaign happened last week at Univision.
And you might want to find the clip because it's so good.
Spanish language TV.
And a voter asked him to say three nice things about Kamala Harris.
And he said it was the toughest question he had.
But he thought about it and he gave a very sincere answer.
And one of the things he said was that she seems to have a nice way about her in some settings.
And he also said she seems to have enduring friendships.
There are people who have been friends with her for a very long time.
And he said that that's a very good quality.
And the other thing he said he admired about her was that she's a survivor, that she's tough, because you don't make it through the political morass and come out on top of her party the way she has, unless there's some toughness to you.
So there are things about her that men admire that Trump admires, but those are not the things that they bring out.
As you say, it's the inauthenticity.
Doug Amhoff is held up as the paragon of masculinity because he's completely differential to his wife.
He's not himself.
He doesn't get to be himself except in these perverted ways, if I can use that term.
And I'm not a judgmental person.
I have rather socially liberal views on most issues of sexual morality, but I mean perverted in the sense of twisted, where it's okay to hit women, where it's okay to cheat on women, where you impregnate the nanny and she loses the child somehow.
We don't know what happened to that child.
I mean, that's a distortion of masculinity.
He calls being strong and tough toxic masculinity.
But he is toxic masculinity, this kind of beeble exterior with this cruel dark side.
And that's what she evokes.
And that's why she has a problem with men.
So Trump's going to all these podcasts because that's where the men are.
And he's going to bring out men to vote in a way that I don't think we've seen in a very long time.
Very interesting.
Here's the clip from Univision.
We'll take a look at it.
Good evening, Mr. President.
I only think it's fair to ask the same question I posed, the Democrat candidate.
Cuale son lest virtudes qui uster reconoce en la vice presidenta, Camala Harris.
What are the three virtues that you see in Vice President Kamala Harris?
That's a very hard question.
That's the toughest question.
The other ones are easy.
I'm not a fan.
I'm not a fan.
I think she's harmed our country horribly, horribly, at the border, with inflation, with so many other things.
But she seems to have an ability to survive.
She seems, because, you know, she was out of the race and all of a sudden she's running for president.
That's a great ability that some people have and some people don't have.
She seems to have some pretty long-time friendships.
And that's, you know, also that's, I don't call that an ability.
I call that a good thing.
And she seems to have a nice way about her.
I mean, I like the way, you know, some of her statements, some of her, the way she behaves in a certain way.
But in another way, I think it's very bad for our country, very bad for our country.
But she does seem to have some relationships that be lasting.
And she does seem to be a survivor.
Because remember, she was the first one out, and all of a sudden she's running for president.
And the other 21 people that are running, they're sitting home watching her on television, right?
So that's by far the toughest question I've had today.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate your answer.
Hey, back to the male thing.
Kamala Harris is losing black male support.
And I see, and by the way, black men, black Americans are 14% of the population.
Black men, therefore, are around 7% of the population.
And I think the Democrats are used to getting six out of the seven of those votes.
And if that falls to five or four, especially in places like Philadelphia or Detroit where there's a lot of black men, that could tip a few things, especially in Pennsylvania.
And so she's trying to reach out to black men.
And I see so many streeters where they're not having it.
I think they have some doubts as to whether or not she really is black.
I think Trump planted a few thoughts there.
But when Kamala Harris came out with her black men policy, it was weird.
It was, well, we'll make it so that you can get into the pot business.
We'll protect your crypto.
I think there was something in there about porn, if I recall.
Here's an ad that Reid Hoffman's super PAC put out, trying to appeal to men who like pornography.
This is a, I just want to give a viewer discretion.
This is a real ad run by a Democrat super PAC in support of Kamala Harris.
Viewer discretion advice.
Take a look.
Oh!
Sorry, you can't do that.
What the hell, man?
How'd you get in here?
I'm your Republican congressman.
Now that we're in charge, we're banning porn nationwide.
You can't tell me what to do.
Get out of my bedroom, you creep.
I won the last election, so it's my decision.
I'm just going to watch and make sure you don't finish illegally.
That's so weird.
Joel, I didn't think that was real.
I thought that's so gross and so unpersuasive.
I thought that's got to be a satire.
That was, and by the way, Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn, I think he's one of the two people terrified that Trump will win and release the Jeffrey Epstein record.
Right, right.
I mean, Bill Gates made a $50 million donation for the first time in his life for the Democrats.
I think they're worried.
They think that's their male audience.
They think that's what a real guy is like.
What do you think about that?
Right.
Like that men want marijuana and pornography.
And look, they're catering to men who don't get off the couch.
And like as if men want to stay home and live with their parents or whatever.
We do have a problem at the moment in the United States and in the West in general of men who are failing to launch, who don't get jobs, who don't start families.
And so Democrats are saying to them, it's okay.
We accept you as you are.
We're going to keep supplying you with the things that allow you to waste your time.
And this is not what most American men actually want to be.
There is a population, but even that population doesn't want to live that way.
I mean, they're doing it because they feel a sense of despair.
But, you know, black men do care about things like criminal justice reform, but they don't want to be addressed as criminals or potential criminals.
Black men want to be free.
And what's amazing about black Trump supporters or even just black Trump voters, they may not support him in general, but they're going to vote for him this time, is how happy they are about it.
When you interview black voters and they talk about why they're voting for Trump, they're amazingly overjoyed about it because they know they're making a statement.
The same thing with Hispanic voters.
I was picking my daughter up from the bus stop the other day here in Los Angeles, and there was a Toyota with Trump bumper stickers all over it.
And there was an Hispanic woman parked at the side of the road in this Toyota.
And I leaned out my window and I said to her, you support Trump, do you?
And she looked at me as if she was bracing for the attack that was to come because I'm a white guy in LA.
Of course, I have to be voting for Harris.
And I said to her, don't worry, I do too.
And she smiled this broad smile.
You know, they're happy to be breaking out of the conformity and the laziness that Democrats impose on their own voters who are not naturally inclined to the lifestyles that Democrats have forced them into.
So, look, porn is an issue that has come up because Project 2025, which was written by the Heritage Foundation, talked about some curbs on pornography.
Now, I happen to be very libertarian on these issues.
In fact, in 2016, I interviewed a porn star for Breitbart who said she was voting for Donald Trump.
And I said to her, if you're voting Republican, how do you reconcile that?
This is long before Project 2025, but how do you reconcile that with the fact that Donald Trump himself at that time said he wants to restrict certain kinds of pornography?
She says, I agree.
I mean, I make my living in the porn industry, but this is not for children.
Man Enough Ad00:10:25
And there's certain things that should not be on camera.
And we actually do have to have some restraint because right now we have none.
And that was her answer.
You know, so we shouldn't write anybody off.
And I don't think Trump is writing anybody off.
I think that Democrats, by the way, the problem with that ad, aside from being produced by Reid Hoffman, is that they have a man coming in to enforce the anti-porn thing.
You know, it's ridiculous because it's not credible because the vast majority of men have some exposure to pornography or watch it on occasion.
And so to have a man banning another man from watching pornography doesn't make sense.
That's part of the bizarreness of the whole thing.
The whole thing looks weird.
Let me show you one thing.
It just shows you they have no message other than fear.
And Donald Trump actually said it best in a press conference.
He said, Kamala Harris is running a campaign of hate.
That's what it is.
It's actually saying you have to hate and fear the people on the other side.
It's true.
And it's so funny how they project that on their own opponents.
I don't want to just make this show playing ads, but I think they reveal so much because this is the distilled essence of, if not of Kamala Harris herself, at least those around her.
I want to show you another ad.
And again, I didn't think this was real.
It felt so off.
It felt like it was created by AI.
You know, you can sort of feel that AI is off a little bit.
I thought this was a skit or a sketch or a fake, you know, the Babylon Bee.
This is an ad called Man Enough.
And these are Democrats.
I know this one.
This is very good.
And I looked at this and I thought, has Kamala Harris ever met a man?
Do the Democrats know what men are like?
Here, take a look at this.
I'm a man.
I'm a man.
I'm a man, man.
And I'm man enough.
I'm man enough to enjoy a barrel-proof bourbon.
Neat.
Man enough to cook my steak rare.
Man enough to deadlift 500 and braid the shit out of my daughter's hair.
You think I'm afraid to rebuild a carburetor?
I eat carburetors for breakfast.
I ain't afraid of bears.
That's what bear hugs are for.
I'll tell you another thing I sure as shit am not afraid of.
Women.
I'm not afraid of women.
I'm not afraid of women.
They want to control their bodies.
I say go for it.
They want to use IVF to start a family?
I'm not afraid of families.
They want to be childless cat ladies.
Have all the cats you want.
Woman wants to be president?
Well, I hope she has the guts to look me right in the eye and accept my full-throated endorsement.
Because I'm man enough to support women.
Man enough to know what kind of donuts I like.
Man enough to admit I'm lost even when I refuse to ask for directions.
Man enough to not ban young women from reading little ones or one of those pants books that the sisters like.
I'm man enough to raw dog a flight.
It sucked.
Not worth it.
I'm man enough to be emotional in front of my wife.
In front of my kids.
In front of my horse.
I'm man enough to tell you that I cry.
I love action.
Goodwill hunting.
West side story.
Bet and bread.
And I'm sick of so-called men domineering, belittling, and controlling women just so they can feel more powerful.
That's not how my mama raised me.
I love women.
I love women who support their families.
Women who decide not to have families.
Women who take charge.
And I'm man enough to help them win.
Yeah, I'm not.
New York, it's Saturday night.
Yeah, I swear, it felt, every single one of them felt off.
That one guy sitting like that.
I think I saw someone who did a little bio on each of them and had the links to prove it.
I actually think he was gay.
So when he said, you know, not afraid of women and we love women, I'm not sure if that guy was being completely candid.
I don't know.
I just think that is so weird.
I don't think they know what men are like.
I don't think that's a good idea.
One of my colleagues had a great insight about that ad, which is that the ad is actually aimed at women.
Because what the ad does is it reminds women that women really run the Democratic Party because that is a set of idealized male types who, in the minds of a female audience, are deferential to women's idea of how they should relate.
So it was weird on purpose because that is what other women in the Democrats want.
That's the men they're looking for.
They're looking for the men who cry.
They're looking for the men who tell them they don't have to have families.
They're looking for the men who will participate in IVF.
There's nothing wrong with IVF, by the way.
I mean, I have family members who've been through IVF.
You know, it's, look, most men don't tell you that they are men and they don't tell you what it takes to be a man, but your father will, your coach will, your teacher will, privately, not publicly.
And usually when they're telling you to be a man, it involves facing some difficulty.
Not one of those men talked about a difficulty.
They talked about tastes and preferences.
There's nothing manly about tastes and preferences.
Being manly is sucking up a bad situation at work and going to work even for someone you don't like because you've got to pay the bills.
That's what a man has to do.
Or being a man is apologizing to somebody when you don't think you were wrong.
Or getting abused by a coach on the football field because he's just trying to, I mean, I don't mean like in a criminal way or a sexual way, but you know, being sworn at by a coach who's mean and who's trying to make you succeed.
Being a man is all about facing difficulty.
That's really all it is when men talk to each other about being men.
And it's usually in a father-son kind of relationship.
Men don't talk to each other like this.
I mean, I know there are some men, I guess, in the men's movement, and I'm not trying to knock that, but men don't typically talk this way at all.
You know, I don't know.
Men don't relate to this at all.
This was an ad aimed at women.
Yeah.
The only part I related to was Goodwill Hunting.
I really like that movie.
I think your friend who gave you this theory cracked the code because I thought, how can that, they've got to know that's not real.
And you've just told us why.
I think there's a huge thirst by men to know what men should be.
Jordan Peterson's success, for better or for worse, Andrew Tate's success.
Even our friend Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys.
It's about men wanting to do manly things.
And part of that is working.
I think the essential duty of a man is to work.
And I don't think the Democrats believe that themselves.
Well, you'll never touch the manliest gesture in the last century of American history, which is getting shot in the head and getting up with your fist raised.
I mean, there's nothing manlier than that.
I mean, it's just never, you know, so she needed to approach this issue entirely differently.
They're also trying to shame men.
Michelle Obama gave a speech.
I don't know if you can find a clip of that.
Michelle Obama gave a speech saying, we're going to tell the men in our lives that we're not going to accept them voting the other way because that's a form of violence against us or whatever she said.
Basically, telling women to threaten the men in their lives, their husbands, boyfriends, that's that fingernails on the chalkboard sound.
I didn't describe it right, but every man knows that sound.
Here, let's play a clip of that.
Michelle Obama walking entitlement and take a look.
We have every right to demand that the men in our lives do better by us.
We have to use our voices to make these choices clear to the men that we love.
Our lives are worth more than their anger and disappointment.
And we are more than just baby-making vessels.
A household of men that don't listen to you or value your opinion.
Just remember that your vote is a private matter.
Regardless of the political views of your partner, you get to choose.
You get to use your judgment and cast your vote for yourself and the women in your life.
Remember, women, standing up for what is best for us can make the difference in this election.
You know, she described men as being full of anger and disappointment.
She described men valuing women as baby-making vessels.
I think that the men she must know sound awful and atrocious.
But I have a vision.
Go ahead.
When you're a man and you get a lecture like that from a woman, even a woman you love, what it tells you is that the best way for you to express your freedom is to quietly, just as she said, quietly in the privacy of the voting booth, vote exactly as you want to vote and not the way she's telling you to vote.
You know, I think half the appeal of vote by mail to Democrats is that it allows women to monitor the votes of their husbands.
I'm only half serious when I say that.
But look, this idea, I mean, the worst line in there is actually that we're more than baby-making machines.
Okay.
There's no man that looks at a woman as a baby-making machine.
Okay.
You know, but when you listen to a Megan Kelly, there's an understanding that she has that at some level, men are, maybe it's biological, men are programmed to objectify women for the purpose of survival, at least in some small part of their minds.
And that is normal and natural.
And, you know, if you're a woman, you can ignore it.
You can roll with it.
You can do whatever you want with it.
But that is part of the male brain.
It's not all of the male brain.
And it's certainly not everything a man wants from a woman.
So for her to say that, it just, again, as you said, it reflects something about her relationships.
But I can tell you, it is the worst marital advice in the world to tell your husband or your boyfriend or whatever that if he votes the wrong way, he's condoning violence against you.
You know, it's really detrimental to what this country actually needs in a very serious way as a social problem, which is more families, more family harmony, more children, more peace in the home.
Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post00:05:08
Politics has really escalated to the level where it is going to break some families up.
And it's because of speeches like that.
Very bad advice.
You know, that's that Mark Halperin clip.
I mean, there is, if Trump wins, there is going to be a mental health crisis.
I think he's totally right.
Let's end with an interesting thing that I read.
I actually don't read the Washington Post a lot.
I'm not American.
And it just feels so dreary.
Don't worry.
Americans don't read it either.
Yeah.
But it still has the Washington Post and the New York Times are the two biggest brands in newspaperdom in the entire country.
Far ahead of the Wall Street Journal or the New York Post, the New York Times is number one, Washington Post is number two.
And on foreign affairs and inside the Beltway stuff, Washington Post is number one.
And that's exactly why Jeff Bezos, one of the richest men in the world because of Amazon, bought it, because he gets a seat at the table.
Buying the Washington Post and running it and having his hand on it is the equivalent of hiring 100 lobbyists in town because he controls the thing that politicians crave the most.
And in the past week, the Washington Post announced that it is not going to endorse anybody, although I think it's very clear that every single one of their columnists is a Democrat.
Their coverage, I mean, I don't know why an official endorsement is necessary.
We all know who they support.
But he wrote saying that we don't need to do that.
We have to be accurate, but we have to be seen as accurate.
And we're losing the trust of voters.
We're even less lovable than Congress.
It was a very thoughtful letter.
And he said, look, we've just got to be a little less partisan and a little, we have to seem more accurate to our viewers.
And the rebellion and the resignations and the campaign to cancel subscriptions.
What's going on over there?
His critics would say, oh, we're sucking up to Trump because he doesn't want Trump to hurt Amazon if Trump becomes president.
I think he's more genuine.
By the way, after the assassination attempt, Jeff Bezos wrote what I think was a very honest tweet saying he felt exhilarated by Trump standing up and waving his fist, that he thought that was an incredibly brave moment.
What's going on with Jeff Bezos?
Is this just some marketing ploy or some op?
What's going on?
The owner of a newspaper has very little power over the newsroom.
Even if he or she wanted to exert power, they don't really have a lot of it.
The one area in which they do have power is over the editorial page and over this issue specifically, over a presidential endorsement.
What's happening to the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times and other publications that have decided not to endorse is simply that they are losing money hand over fist.
They cannot retain their readers because their readers don't trust them, because these partisan publications are boring, they're tedious, and they're untrustworthy.
He can't fix that overnight, but he wants a seat at the table and he's hedging his bets.
He believes that Donald Trump has a good chance of winning and he doesn't want to have his reporters in the White House briefing room looked upon by Trump or by his press secretary as if they're simply arms of the Democratic Party.
They may be that, but I think what he's hoping to do is to slowly turn that big ship around and to get back to where at least there's some credibility still with the news organization so they can bring readers back and so they can actually report news that is trusted by people and so they can get access, frankly, to the White House and to other places.
If Donald Trump wins this election, it will be a victory over the media as much as or even more than over the Democratic Party.
And he and the other owners don't want to be on the losing side of that battle anymore.
Or rather, they've lost enough already and they've got to do something to save their business.
You know, he bought the Washington Post so he would have a voice.
But if the Post fails, there goes his voice.
And the Post is so bad that even their conservative columnists are liberals.
That's not a credible publication in any way anymore.
And they are trying to save their brand.
They're trying to save their business.
Look, if the Washington Post did fail, he wouldn't really feel the pinch financially.
But what else is he going to do?
He needs a seat at the table.
wants a seat at the table.
And he's got to save that publication if he wants that voice.
So I see it as a way of basically betting on a probable Trump victory, which is still a difficult thing to predict.
It's 50-50.
I do think he's going to win, by the way, but it's going to be very close.
Or it could be very close.
It could be a landslide.
We don't know.
But I think that he is exerting power in the one way he can.
And look, it's taking a lot of people by surprise.
I think that the reporters who are upset about it are right to be upset because if you're allowing the newspaper to run itself in a certain fashion and then you do this complete 180 right before the election, it's pretty jarring for the editors.
Dreaming Big Again?00:04:04
But he has every right to do it and it's the right thing to do.
You know, he's a tech boss and we talked about YouTube hiding Joe Rogan's interview with the president.
But the one name we haven't mentioned is Elon Musk, who now has the number one news app in the world, X, formerly called Twitter.
And Elon Musk is campaigning every day in Pennsylvania.
He set up a super PAC called America that is giving away a million bucks a day to people who sign his petition.
So he must be gathering a ton of names and voter data.
And he says he's willing to work in some role in a Trump administration to get government efficiency.
And I think he could do that.
I mean, he's such a cost cutter in his own companies.
Give me, before we go, and you've been very generous with your time.
Give me one minute on Elon Musk.
I saw him compared to that character in the movie, Iron Man, the richest man in the world, the inventor gadget guy.
And I thought, you know, there's just a little bit of something there.
Like he's just an eccentric techno-wizard launching rockets, making Tesla cars, billions of dollars, a quarter of a trillion dollars.
And there he is giving goofy, but sometimes actually very passionate and very thoughtful speeches.
Give me a word on Elon Musk.
Elon Musk's role in the campaign is incredibly important.
And look, we are critical of him at Breitbart because of his dalliances with the Chinese Communist Party.
And he has some other issues with some of his companies and so forth.
He's not always so principled and so forth.
Tough boss to work for, you might say.
But he has stood for free speech.
He put his own money on the line, acquiring Twitter for much more than it was worth.
And in so doing, he revealed the extent of government collusion with Silicon Valley and the censorship of Americans.
And the vision of America he's fighting for is a vision of limitless possibility, where you can go to Mars, where you can catch a rocket booster with a pair of chopsticks, where we don't even know what inventions could emerge in the next several years, where kids can grow up dreaming of visiting another planet and actually making it happen.
That's the America he believes in.
Peter Thiel gave a similar speech in 2016 when he spoke at the Republican National Convention.
He's sitting out of politics this time around, but Peter Thiel, who was Elon Musk's business partner at PayPal way back when, said the same thing, that we used to be a country that dreamed big.
John F. Kennedy said we're going to the moon, and Ronald Reagan talked about Star Wars as a defense system.
These things have happened, but they happened because we were led by people who dreamed big and for whom something like Cancer Moonshot, which is one of Joe Biden's refrains, wasn't just a kind of political throwaway line, but it was actually a way of life.
Let's look for innovators.
Let's look for inventors.
Let's look for entrepreneurs.
Let's look for people who are going to change the world.
And that's really what Western civilization is about.
Exploration has been so run down.
You know, Columbus is the great destroyer of indigenous civilization, and now they'll hate him even more that he turned out to be Jewish.
But exploration is what the West is about.
It's where every other great civilization failed.
China was way ahead of the rest of the world, but didn't explore.
The Islamic world didn't explore.
They preserved the great wisdom of the Greeks, but they didn't expand wisdom because they sought to create a perfect static world, and they still do.
But the West believes in expanding possibilities.
And that's why Elon Musk is so important to this campaign.
American presidential elections have always been won on platforms of growth.
And even our leftists have emphasized growth.
Barack Obama was a growth candidate, even if none of his policies tended in that direction.
Kamala Harris is not a growth president.
She's a redistribution president.
She's a business-as-usual bureaucracy-as-usual president.
And when you have those systems, you can look at Western Europe.
You can look at the Islamic world.
Look at South Africa.
A wonderful experiment in democracy ruined by the kind of racial politics the Democrats have imported into American culture.
Elon Musk stands for breaking out of that and achieving a kind of escape velocity from the stultifying rhetoric of left-wing politics and getting out into discovery.
Growth vs. Redistribution00:03:54
And he's not a social conservative, although he's become more conservative on issues like abortion and so forth.
But he really believes in opening up possibilities.
And that is exciting, whether Trump wins or not.
The fact that people are talking about that again is very good for America and for the world.
Yeah, you're right.
You know, I'm going to leave it there because you've been so generous with your time, but there are others that are fun to talk to you.
Amazing things like RFK Jr., imagine putting him in charge of the health of America.
I mean, there's a phrase, M-A-G-A, make America great again, MAGA, but M-A-H-A, make America healthy again.
Just saying that, you know, and he talks about kids being overweight and exercise and the food pyramid.
And yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I find it appealing and I love sort of the bipartisan nature of it.
And RFK Jr. is such an interesting guy.
And I like Trump.
I don't want him anywhere near environmentalist policy.
But I don't know.
I just think it's a very interesting time.
And if this, you know, League of Justice sort of superheroes, Batman and Superman and the Green Lantern, if they all win, I think it's going to be an amazing time for America and the world.
If Kamala Harris wins, I think it's going to be the decline of America in a way that may not be reparable.
I think let me put you at ease about something.
I do think that's possible if she wins.
I do think it's possible that we decline.
And I do think our enemies will be bolder if she wins.
That's for sure.
I mean, we predicted that four years ago, that there would be war, Middle East would be a massive Joe Biden one, and that's what happened.
So there are certain bad outcomes that will transpire.
But I do think that the American spirit can survive a Kamala Harris or Kamala Harris presidency.
Because I think what will simply happen is what's happened in other societies and what's happened in this country too in the past, which is that people withdraw from politics and they find their freedom somewhere else.
That's too bad for us as a country in some ways.
In a way, it's almost the Atlas-shrugged vision of a kind of dystopian future where people pull out of the public, they pull out of society and they create their own universes somewhere else.
But you can't kill that thirst for freedom quite so easily.
And I think it will exist outside of government.
I'd prefer, again, not to see this happen.
I'd like to see our civic life be strong and virtuous and exciting.
But if Kamala Harris wins, it won't be, but people will still find that somewhere else.
People will build alternatives outside government.
It will make us weaker as a society and a civilization.
But there will still be places, I believe, to go to find freedom and happiness.
We just won't take the system seriously anymore.
So I think even if she wins, because of the way she's campaigned, calling Trump a Nazi and all that, I think even if she wins, she loses.
I don't think there's any way she can govern successfully if she wins.
What I would worry about is 50 million migrants turning the swing states blue forever.
Elon Musk has elocuted that, and I think he's spot on.
It's a huge problem.
And the adjustment would have to be a kind of mass internal migration of Americans who want to live with other Americans in states that essentially, they don't secede from the United States, but they put up all kinds of barriers to entry.
And that's, you know, again, there will be an internal resolution against these policies.
But these policies cannot work.
Even if she wins, again, they just cannot work.
You know, George Orwell used to say the greatest opponent of a left-wing government is its prior propaganda.
But really, the greatest opponent of a Kamala Harris administration would be Kamala Harris's policies.
She just simply wouldn't be able to do anything.
Again, migration and so forth.
And look, Americans would withdraw away from places that migrants are going and would resist efforts to bring them there.
You know, I live in LA.
California has a huge number of migrants, but I live on a hill.
It's a little harder to get up this hill.
You know, people will find their cities on a hill.
African Story: Fight Good00:00:29
That's where the phrase comes from.
You know, it comes from the Bible originally.
But the idea is, you know, the city of Jerusalem, the ideal city, is not so easy to get to, and it's a walled city.
So we can either build that wall around our country or we can build it within our country.
But that's really what's going to happen.
Well, that's the South African story, isn't it?
Right.
Well, Joel, great to catch up with you.
One week to go.
Joel Pollack, Senior Editor-at-Large of Breitbart.com.