Ezra Levant and veteran journalist Joe Warmington expose Toronto’s alarming decline, from police shielding anti-Semitic protesters like Navid Awen—linked to Iranian-funded hate—while arresting pro-Israel reporters four times in 2023, including David Menzies beaten mid-interview. Despite laws like Section 176.2 against disturbing worship, no charges were filed after eight-hour synagogue protests or Hitler-praising rallies, contrasting sharply with UK or Dubai crackdowns. Mayor Olivia Chow’s absence at an October 7th vigil—despite repeated invitations—underscores systemic indifference, while Solicitor General Michael Kirzner deflects blame despite 2M annual arrivals, including 1.75M temporary workers, fueling concerns over unchecked immigration and hate normalization. Warmington’s decades of "shoe leather" reporting, praised by Levant for integrity, reveal a media apparatus prioritizing political narratives over truth, leaving Canada’s Jewish community increasingly vulnerable. [Automatically generated summary]
Tonight, a feature interview with Toronto's long-serving columnist, Joe Warmington.
It's October 14th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Well, I don't want to be too Toronto-centric One of the things that I love about Rebel News is that we have reporters across the country.
Drea Humphrey flying the flag out there in British Columbia.
Very exciting things with the election coming up.
The Conservative Party, which was nowhere a year ago, looks poised to replace the tired NDP ideologues out there.
Of course, our heart is in Alberta, and we have reporters out there.
Sheila Gunreed, our chief reporter in northern Alberta.
Alexa Lavoie has really added so much to Rebel News over the years, based in Montreal, doing reports in both English and French.
And I myself sometimes travel outside of our country looking to learn from other examples, whether it's immigration or censorship.
For example, I was down in Sao Paulo for a 200,000-person rally in support of free speech.
I've never seen anything like it in my life.
I try to bring things back to Canada that I see in other countries.
But Canada is our home.
It's the most important country to us.
And although Toronto is a hobby in Canada to hate Toronto, and I think sometimes Torontonians are charter members of that club, it is an important city.
It is a leadership city.
And if Toronto goes down, if Toronto becomes a failed state, it can't help but drag down the province and perhaps the entire country with it.
And one reporter who knows the streets of Toronto perhaps better than anyone else because he's a real shoe leather journalist.
And by that, I mean he doesn't spend a lot of time sitting at a desk in an office.
He's on the streets with the people.
He's taught us so much about journalism.
My friend Joe Warmington joins us for a feature interview today.
Joe, great to see you.
It's good to be with you.
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that you sort of overlooked David Menzoid Menzies.
You know, talk about Toronto.
I mean, there's nobody more Toronto than the Menzoid.
And I know that because whenever I'm out there, I get the story while he's doing autographs and pictures.
So it's kind of cool to see.
David is absolutely our fan favorite.
Because he's based in Toronto, I sort of left him off my list of other places.
Just one of those oversights that I had to correct your honor on the Rebel Today here on Thanksgiving.
David knows that I love him.
And in many ways, he follows the same style of journalism as you do, which is be out there.
The story is out there.
The story is not here in the studio.
It's out with the people.
Yeah, I think he likes getting arrested more than I do.
Oh, he doesn't like it.
He keeps a smile on his face, but I know he hates it.
And his wife is no fan of it either.
You know, and I'm always, you know, I pay attention to it.
And obviously, I'm concerned whenever it happens to him.
And we dive in there to kind of protect him.
I think it's outrageous that he is arrested, especially when there's all kinds of real people that do real crimes that aren't arrested.
But that's Canada.
Canada tends to, you know, arrest people that are kind of easy to arrest.
You know, let me throw one quick comment in reply to that.
I want to follow your lead on this conversation, but every year we send a little delegation to cover the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
And these are VVIPs.
John Kerry's walking around.
Tony Blair, the former UK prime minister, like really the masters of the universe.
And the police are everywhere with serious submachine guns.
Like it is a locked down city.
But Joe, I got to tell you, you can go up to anyone there, the police do not interfere.
As long as you don't touch a VVIP, I mean, you can get as close as I am to you, and the police have no problem with it.
They do not interfere.
And these are some of the most powerful people in the world.
In Canada, you ask a question.
Well, I mean, you mentioned what happened to David.
He's been arrested four times this year alone.
I just wanted to tell you, Canada, we like to think of ourselves as an easygoing free place.
We have heavy-handed approaches to journalists who are irregular.
Well, they're all part of a club, and there's not really a lot of journalists left because of the way the industry has gone.
So if you want to stay inside of that club, I learned this years ago, a little story about when I worked at the Sioux Star.
They covered the Briar, the famous national curling championships.
And it was in the Sioux, and it was a big deal.
I'd never covered curling.
I'd been to it with my parents and stuff.
I kind of knew a little bit of the rules.
But as a reporter, my job was to watch the morning games.
In those days, we had a deadline that was in the morning and then get a story together so they could hit that first paper and get it out there.
So I was there and the game was over and the guy from the Sioux, Al Harnan, won.
It was early in the tournament.
And I ran down the ice at the end and along the middle and I interviewed him and I got a quote and I ran back into the story.
And they came up and they were upset.
You didn't follow the rules and you got ahead of the other media and it was all about the rules.
It wasn't about the story, the fact that of all the people there, the only person that was going to file a story on the event that they're all there to cover was actually me.
That's when I first realized it.
And I've seen that through my whole career where there's this apparatus that's bigger than the story.
And I think if I were to teach journalism, I think that I would suggest that you don't partake in the group.
You don't get as, you know, like the sports, I don't want to pick on the sports writers, but all the names are spelled and they give you a nice meal and it's nice and warm and comfortable.
And then they give you access to the people after the game.
But we don't have that.
We're dealing with people that are going to punch you and they're going to get away with it.
And if you say anything, you're going to get arrested.
And so, you know, that's the reality today.
I want to talk about the kind of people we have in this country who punch journalists because there's a lot of them and they're not who the regime says they are.
But I just want to follow up about one thing you said about there's peer pressure in journalism.
I think it's massive.
If you look at a scrum, you have all these journalists who all know each other who go from event to event together and they form sort of a club.
There's a group identity, we, we the media.
And if you do something that's outside of the norms, you'll be an outsider.
And what you just described there, the fact that you ran ahead to get the story and the other journalists who didn't run ahead felt their feathers ruffled, that's the story of your life.
I think it's also the story of Rebel News.
The peer pressure doesn't just come from the people you're reporting about.
It's from your rival or competitor journalists.
They want you to be part of that same system.
And if you're outside the system, they regard you as a kind of threat.
You're either in the in-club or the out-club.
Rebel, by name, is on the outside.
You've sort of straddled the line because you're with a mainstream outlet, the Toronto Sun.
But I think your whole life, you've been a bit of a maverick and a bit of a lonesome actor.
Yeah, I don't consider myself a maverick at all.
And I don't consider myself aligning with any ideology or party.
So that does make me, I guess, a little bit of an outsider for all of it.
You know, an example in the, you may run this video when I was actually out with David and Efren.
And I can't think of the name of the great photographer that was there that day, but he was really, really brave as well.
And this guy, his name is Navid Awen.
And everything out of his mouth is something that I just, I mean, I almost want to throw up the stuff that he says.
But I don't let him know that.
And, you know, I dealt with him on other issues over the years.
And so my approach is not to worry about how I feel, but if he will talk to me, what does he have to say?
Get as many words out of him before you.
Yeah, that kind of thing.
And then some people say, why didn't you yell at him?
Why didn't you this and that?
You know, then you're not a journalist.
Now, it's a little different for Rebel because, like, you know, you talked about in Davos when you had that guy from the Pfizer guy.
Yeah, Albert.
You know, I mean, that was a trial.
You put him on trial on that.
It must have been the most uncomfortable walk of his life.
But you were never rude and you were tough and aggressive.
I love that.
I mean, I love that whole thing, all the things that you do in Davos.
And I think there's times when I can do that too.
But generally, I'm not there for me.
I'm not there.
I'm there for the audience.
And the same thing with all the politicians I deal with.
They will all call me back the next time because of that, I think.
Yeah, I mean, you are very skillful at that.
And you let the other side do the talking.
And your point of view, it's there, but it's not boppy in the nose.
It's a person at the other side.
That's a person and a perspective.
And I'm a person and I have a perspective.
And that's how I feel about David and yourself and Alexa and Sheila, all, you know, and Dre you mentioned.
And I may be missing some people that have been assaulted, but all that, you know, Kian Bexi, when he used to work for you, it hurts me to see them get, it offends me and it hurts me because I know that they're out doing journalism and that's all they're doing.
And I do the same thing.
And I don't want to get hit with a bat or anything like that.
Now, it's a little different for newspapers, even though we do a lot of, you know, with our cameras and that now we have to.
I still am a newspaper guy.
I've always been that.
And so I kind of have a different approach.
I'm a little slower off the mark.
I don't run in there the same way that you see the TV people do.
I walk over them.
So sometimes I miss some of the action, but I feel that I kind of do it a little slower.
And then maybe that helps me too.
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You mentioned Nabada One, and for 99.9% of people watching won't know who that is.
That is a foreigner who came to Canada.
I don't know if he's a naturalized citizen here yet.
He has been really the pointy edge of the spear for an enormous number of anti-Semitic hate events.
I don't know if he's the boss of the huge street rallies.
I get the feeling that's done by people higher on the organizational chart.
But Navada One personally and some of his family members are at some of the most vicious anti-Semitic events in the city.
He's the guy outside the synagogues shouting threats at the synagogues.
He's the guy who blocked the street to a Jewish neighborhood, a residential neighborhood, because there were Jews living there.
And he talks about how it's a Zionist-infested zone.
You say you took some footage of him the other day on the anniversary of October 7th.
Let's take a look at that now and just to show our folks who Navada One is.
Like it's been peaceful here today.
Oh, yeah, I've got here.
What do you think?
I mean, what do I think?
Well, yeah, just about, because it is October 7th, so it seems very significant day.
Tell me about what you're doing here.
A bunch of schools earlier today were walked out earlier today.
I'm not sure if this uncovered that.
Lots of schools around GTA and other cities also walked out today.
So October 7th is basically, for me and for many others, it's the one-year tragic anniversary of the Palestinian genocide and the continuing and 76 years of continuing ongoing occupation and oppression of the Palestinian people and their resilience.
How do you square that with the attack on, you can see the Israeli side of it, they lost a lot of people on this day as well.
How did they?
Well, the people that are here that are supported, that are supporting, or counter-protesting, if you will.
Well, you got to use robber words.
You mean they lost people?
So are these Israelis or they're Canadians?
Well, you know, I'm not here to parse words.
I just don't know.
You know what I mean?
How do you square what happened to Israel and then obviously what your concern is.
I just explained to you what October 7th means to me and many others.
It might mean different things to different people, and you're allowed to feel that way.
You asked me how I feel, what it means to me.
To me, it's a very important day.
That's the best way I can answer that.
Okay?
You know, one of the things that is so appalling to me is the inversion of words.
So on October 7th, it was a massacre of men and women and children, including babies.
It was mass rape.
It was hostage taking.
There is a baby.
There are still babies.
And he flips the language and he says October is a genocide against Palestinians.
He's not Palestinian himself, by the way.
He's Pakistani.
And the inversion of the language, the Hamas Charter, which is like their bylaws, it's an officially, explicitly anti-Semitic organization.
And to flip that around and to use the language against Israel, I mean, I don't think language wars should be a crime, but he actually commits criminal crimes, real crimes.
They're not huge crimes.
He hasn't murdered anyone, but uttering threats, he's engaged in assault.
He's assaulted some of our people.
He's certainly done more than any trucker protester did during the convoy.
He's certainly done more and worse than what Tamara Leach did, and she was jailed 49 days without bail.
I don't know.
I see him and I see someone who's come to Canada, and he pretty much full-time is an anti-Israel, and I would say anti-Jewish protester.
And I think it's something more too.
I think you're right.
But I think what I showed there, what I was not necessarily trying to show, but I think so, is that he's celebrating and dancing on the graves of those people.
That was a sneak attack.
You see people talk about it being a military attack.
It wasn't that.
It was a terror attack.
And it's still going on because there's a hundred hostages that are still missing.
And he's sitting there laughing about it.
And he's trying to say to me, you know, tricking me with the words or whatever it was.
And, you know, the only thing I will say is he doesn't put on a mask because a lot of the other people were wearing masks.
I don't know if you want to play the other clip, but you can see your own David Menzies getting harassed by a guy in a mask.
And, you know, that's an interesting thing to show.
Let's take a look at that right now.
How do you think the police have done here in keeping the groups sort of separated?
Any issues?
No, no, no.
Well, it's like some instigators like these guys.
He's been arrested a few times.
He has a criminal record.
Actually, he's known for it, to be honest.
If you've been following the SAG, the charges are drawn, no reasonable chance of prosecution.
You know something about me?
I don't have to say that about myself.
No, but you said I had a process.
I'll just practice the record to show you if I've been off.
It is a terrorist style to have masks.
It's a terrorist style going back decades, perhaps centuries, to avoid identification and retribution.
Until COVID-19 came about, the only people who wore masks in society were, I guess, welders.
If it was super cold out, maybe you wore a mask skiing, but it was bank robbers and other bandits who wore masks.
That normalized mask wearing.
And so you see it here in Toronto and Montreal and other cities, the worst spewers of hate and in many cases violence are wearing masks.
Antifa has done that for ages.
They have a phrase black block, which means everyone's dressed the same head to toe in black.
Faces are covered to make it extremely hard for authorities to figure out who did what.
And they can shed it and then fit in with the crowd and you don't know it's them.
But a couple of observations that you'll notice from that video particularly is all the police behind there that are separating the 25 or so pro-Israel kind of counterprotesters run or sort of led by Mayor Weinstein from Israel now.
But I think that the reason why I think the clip's interesting is that, and the earlier clip as well, Ezra, is that you've got to understand what this really is.
And what it is, is them trying to satisfy whoever funds them.
They're being funded from, and I believe from abroad, but funneled through local people.
All of that is paid for.
And they've got to show to the people that are sending those checks that they're doing this stuff.
And that's why they're there.
And that's why, you know, when they get on the Rebel or whatever it was, you know, it's interesting because David didn't do anything different than what I did there.
I don't have the flash, you know, with the rebel on it.
But, you know, we have to cover it and tell the public who's out there and what they have to say.
And that's what I tried to do there.
But I think I'm right that that money that funds all of that is not coming from here.
It's come from somewhere.
Well, I think it was Global News that broke the story of 700 Iranian agents in Canada.
That's just Iran.
Now, Iran is really the leader of these movements.
They support Hezbollah and Hamas.
It costs money to put on events.
We know that at Rebel News.
We have to crowdfund everything we do.
I mean, to have all the matching signs, to have the social media publications, to get the buses.
He talked about schools having pro-Hamas walkouts.
Someone's organizing that.
Now, some of the money comes from old stock Canadians like Fred Hahn of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, basically, in my view, misappropriating or misdirecting funds from union dues.
That's been a problem for decades.
Union bosses going on political crusades with their members' money.
But I think the bulk of the money is foreign entities, and why wouldn't they?
It's extremely effective.
If Iran was flying an Iranian flag and doing it in their own name, people would reflexively reject it.
But when they say, oh, no, I'm a new Canadian just like you, and I genuinely believe this, it's a form of an information operation.
It's a form of, it's a psyop.
It's interesting to me that these characters there, those two, but there's many others, they can move around Queen's Park freely.
They're not worried about getting hurt or hit or arrested, any of that.
Right.
Where me, Joe Warmington, 40 years as a journalist, 33 at the Toronto Sun.
I can't do that freely.
And obviously, present company accepted the rebel people can't do that freely.
But in my case, you know, I was down there to cover it.
When I went over to the middle, and there's a photograph that shows the shot I wanted to get.
I'm now on a territory that, you know, I need some sort of a passport from a designated security person that protects those guys with a walkie-talkie and all that saying, who are you?
And where's your credential?
You're not part of this.
We saw that clip with the Ottawa police saying, you can't come in here unless you're anti-Israel and pro-Palestine.
But the truth of it is that I can go anywhere I want and I'm not bothering anybody.
I go over and take a picture and I'll be cordial with anybody, but they're not cordial back.
And in this thing, I mean, I've been punched by a police officer early on in this thing.
I've been hit with those bikes because the Antifa people put the bikes across and then they swing them around.
It's a good trick.
They hit you with a bike when you're almost 60 years old and you move out of the way from the bike, you hurt something, or if they hit you, you end up with a cut on your leg or whatever.
There's no crime there.
No one minds it.
If you so much as did that to them, you would be under arrest, as you well know and your lawyers know.
So you've talked about two things.
You've talked about sort of a paramilitary fake security detail where the Antifa side, the Iran side, decides who can or can't be in a place.
They were doing that for months at the University of Toronto with their encampment.
And they had these same encampments in Vancouver, in Montreal at McGill.
They had it in Calgary.
Pretty much every major university.
As soon as they put that fence up at the U of T, the first thing I said was, now that they're going to have that there because they're going to breach that, they're going to use that fence as a walled-in city, which is exactly what they did.
I called for it to be taken down immediately.
So now that the fence didn't work, why do you leave it up?
I mean, if you're really seriously, you go and say, look, we're going to take it down and you can't control it.
The reality of it is the police can't win because they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.
And obviously they've had a hundred, you know, whatever, hundreds of days of protests.
But nonetheless, if I'm going to go over there and someone's going to threaten me or threaten your people, you know, the police should come over and arrest them.
I don't think I have to prove myself to anybody.
I can go to Queen's Park or City Hall or anywhere in the city of Toronto as I have for the Toronto Sun for 33 years and cover that story.
And I'll do it professionally, and I'm not there as a protester.
And yet I have to go through the security check from these kind of characters.
I'm going to show you one of the times that David Menzies was falsely arrested.
It was at the public plaza outside Toronto City Hall.
Nathan Phillips Square is the name of it.
Nathan Phillips himself was a Jew, if I'm not mistaken.
He was the first Jewish mayor of Toronto.
So Pierre Polyev and the conservatives were having a, were involved in a vigil for the Israeli hostages.
This was a few months after the terrorist attack.
And so David went to cover the pro-Israel vigil.
And Nabadawan and some of these Iran proxies were there to heckle.
And basically, remember that extreme, I think it was called the Westboro Baptist Church.
Whenever there were funerals for American soldiers, they would come to the funeral with insane signs saying God hates fags.
That's what their signs would say.
Like they would come to these funerals of ordinary soldiers with these outrageous insults.
It was just a shocking thing when it was the Westboro Baptist Church.
Well, that's exactly what Navada One and his Iranian thugs did.
They came to this vigil to counter protest of the people.
They're hired to do it, Ezra.
And they're getting paid to do that.
Yes.
And so David went to put a microphone to them and say, well, what are you doing?
The police swept in not to protect David or not to stop these Iranian hecklers, but they arrested David.
And you'll notice David didn't do anything.
In fact, he took a few blows.
Here's a reminder of one of David's arrests At a pro-Israel vigil, the police really doing the bidding of the anti-Semitic protesters.
Take a look.
Obey your old officer.
Listen to me.
If you don't want the other arrest, get your hands off.
Okay, then I'll take the camera.
Put your hands behind your back.
Governor Russell refusing to leave, okay?
Refusing to peel the wagon, Mr. May.
So that looks like a RoboCop movie to me.
See, I saw that at the time that day.
And I don't think the police officers should be able to cover their faces either.
And I don't think there's any reason to arrest David there.
And is that the one where he was hurt?
That's the one where they hit his head.
When you hit somebody, when you take somebody into custody, normally when they're hurt, you know, like any kind of a jail cut, which is what that is because it went into the police van, that's a serious thing.
It's different than cutting yourself here.
When you get cut in jail, there's hepatitis and all these kinds of things.
None of those measures were taken in this case.
The SIU wouldn't be brought in unless you were badly hurt.
But you don't know what kind of concussions somebody can get when they have their head slammed into something, which is what happened to David.
I've seen it before as well.
I'm pro-police.
I think that the police do a great job here, but not those officers there because we don't know who they are.
I don't know if you can see their name badges and things like that, but they've gone to trouble to kind of disguise themselves, much like Antifa.
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So you don't know as a member of the public exactly who they are.
They're using our police resources to, in essence, kind of quail an interview or whatever.
It's really alarming that that happened.
That spot at Nathan Phillips Square, that's our spot.
That's for us.
Nathan Phillips himself was the mayor of all the people.
That's not what was happening there.
Yeah.
And I know a little bit about the law of trespass.
It is very powerful on private property.
If you're on private property, even a mall, a shopping mall is typically private property.
Now they invite the public in, but they can revoke that for any reason or no reason.
It's just like if you have someone over at your house, you can kick them out.
You don't even need a reason.
You could have a terrible reason.
The law says if it's your place, it's your place.
But being kicked off a public square, it should have a very high bar.
And just because some foreign agitators say David's bugging us, that's not enough to arrest someone, bundle them into a police van and take them to jail.
He had it happen in front of the King Edward Hotel as well.
It was the same sort of thing.
Exact same thing.
Yeah, it's the power that the lobby has.
They're in charge.
They're in charge to a point where the Toronto Sun reporter, which is me, can't go and take a picture.
I did take it and I managed to negotiate my way through it.
But I don't think that, you know, I've got a 12-year-old son.
I want to get home visit my family.
I don't want to be arrested.
I don't want to be hurt.
And I don't want to have any confrontation at all.
I just want to go take my picture.
And if and yet they get to call the shots and that.
And then Mayor Chow and all the rest of them don't give a damn about that.
But I'll tell you, I care about it.
And I have the credentials.
You know, I'm not talking about media credentials.
I'm talking about Toronto credentials.
You're a citizen.
You're a free man.
It's not just that the police aren't cracking down on these sort of paramilitary groups.
You know, that classic image of the police delivering Tim Horton's coffee to Navada Wen and his thugs who were blocking a residential neighborhood because there were too many Jews living there.
Just think about that.
But I want to show you.
But there's an example.
I covered that story that was on the front page of the sun.
All these stories that we have covered, but most of the media haven't covered them.
The Toronto Sun has been outstanding, I think.
It's true, Toronto Sun has been the best newspaper in Canada on this issue.
I think you're standing with your principles.
You know what?
If you look at the Toronto Sun from Adrian Batcher, from the editor-in-chief, to Warren Kinsella, who is kind of been a liberal his whole life, but he's been really, really good on this issue.
Brian Lilly, who you would know well here at Rebel.
They've all gone at it from the point of view that we're not going to listen to all this nonsense and we're going to cover the story.
And there's no agenda.
You just go and cover it.
And that's what we've done.
I have to agree with you.
I want to show you.
You mentioned one thing.
I want to make sure our viewers saw it.
I think I played a clip of this the other day.
In Ottawa, I mean, Ottawa, that center block of parliament, it's actually not being used right now.
It's still under rental.
So a lot of people don't know during the Trucker Convoy, they were protesting outside an empty building.
No one went into that parliament.
There was no one in any building.
Right.
For two years before that.
That's the irony of all the people saying how horrible it was.
That's right.
I looked.
I didn't see anybody.
Nobody lives there either.
So that big lawn in front of Parliament, when I was a kid, like really right out of school, I worked for a couple of years in Center Block when President Manning was the leader of the Reform Party.
I'm dating myself now.
And right outside, in the big lawn in front of Center Block, two or three times a day, I could see out my window, two or three times a day, there was a protest.
That is sort of protest central.
And the police are well trained.
They have all the resources they need from the SWAT team to the regular police liaisons.
And that actually was sort of a wonderful thing.
It was like an unofficial opposition party every day.
And you would see this side and that side.
And it was right out my window when I was working there as a kid.
You have probably more legal and constitutional and historic and customary rights on that patch of grass than maybe anywhere else in the land.
Before you showed the clip, I just wanted to share a personal note.
Similar, when the interest rates went to 19% when I was a teenager, I was raised by a single mom, and we were in a position where we could lose our house.
Ironically, we're back to that again.
And it's not quite as stark as it was back in the 80s.
But there was a big protest at Parliament Hill, and I went with my mom to it.
That was the first time I ever saw a protest.
My sister and I. How old were you?
My mom.
I was probably about 14.
Oh, yeah.
And it left something with me.
I remember, you know, I saw the great columnist, I think, is Charles Lynch.
Oh, yeah.
After whom they now name their press theater after him.
Yeah, you know, I saw him there, and I was pretty excited about that.
I didn't know I was going to be a reporter, but I kind of approached it that way, not really from a protester point of view.
I remember the next day because I delivered the Ottawa Citizen.
In those days, I lived in Ottawa.
And I remember the next day on the front page looking at the story.
And, you know, because there was the thing I was at.
I thought it was so cool.
But so I know exactly what you mean.
And, you know, I wasn't protesting.
I don't think my mom was really protesting either.
She went down sort of as solidarity for the people that were kind of doing it.
So yeah, that's the place.
And of course, the truckers thing, which the lawn issue was part of the problem as well.
There was construction going on.
But anyway, go ahead.
Let's see this.
And just about a week ago, someone who was not pro-Palestinian wanted to put his feet on that grass.
And the cops first asked him, well, which side are you on?
Take a look at this insane footage.
You are not permitted on.
Yeah, that was before you admitted being against this cause.
Yeah, he did.
He said he's not a supporter of Palestine and doesn't recognize him as well.
I didn't say that.
Do we want to rewind the video and see?
Well, there's no audio anyway.
Oh, well, that's unfortunate.
Oh, no.
You said it to me.
My colleague understood.
My colleague understood.
Yeah, I said I accept Palestine as a state.
That doesn't mean I'm an anti-Palestinian people.
You said you don't support Palestine.
I don't recognize Palestine as a person.
You said if he took the shot.
Well, that was before you changed your story.
If I don't support Palestine, I don't recognize Palestine as a state.
But I am not waiting in it.
I'm not explanatory.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Then at the end, right before I left, I said, you are not to go on this side.
Right?
No, she's a clear free speech.
No, I'm not.
You can believe that if you wish.
Other side.
Yeah, what do you think of that?
Well, that's how they do it in Iran.
That's exactly how they do it there.
In North Korea and in China.
You can't do that way.
The police work for the government.
They don't work.
You know, you mentioned in Davos how you could do all those interviews, but that's kind of the muscle that's used there.
And the Ottawa police are really politicized.
I mean, we saw that so many times.
I mean, I'm still talking about the police trampling.
I did that story for the Toronto Sun, and it wasn't even up for more than half an hour when all the phone calls were going to all the executives and that this thing.
That's not a trampling.
That's not a trampling.
And I kept looking at it going, yeah, it's a trampling.
And I said to my editors, it's a trampling.
We've got to tell the truth.
You can't sugarcoat what it was.
Now, there's still one guy missing in that, too.
I've never ever been able to find out what happened.
And I've watched the video closely.
My old friend Ross McLean is the old cop there.
He really studied it.
And it looks like the horse landed right center of mass there.
If not, it was very close.
And there was, you know, what I'm getting at is I don't know what happened to that person.
I know there was an ambulance call around the same time, and we've never been able to find it.
It must have been a police officer, I figure, undercover, and that's no one's business.
And maybe they just wanted to get out of there, whether hurt or not hurt, and just kind of transition back into the real world.
I assume that.
I believe that.
But you notice how that's never happened.
Now, in this case, here with this clip, I'm anxious to see what you have to say, but I'm not comfortable with it because it's irrelevant what a police officer thinks, what I'm doing there.
I mean, in my case, what happened was that, you know, I was down at the very, you know, it was October 8th or so, and I was videoing the thing, and there's all kinds of people breaking a lot of rules.
Israel hadn't done anything in response.
So there's no excuse.
Oh, the celebrations from the Navada ones and the other anti-Semites started when they saw the horrific terrorism.
You're right.
Israel did not respond for days or even weeks in a substantive way.
Right, and I was taking a video of this, a young employer, and I didn't see anything, anybody.
And you'll see in the clip where somebody comes, it's a police officer, and he hits me really right here, pretty hard.
Is there footage of that?
I have footage of it, which, yeah, we can show the footage of that.
And it concerned me because, I mean, I was startled by it because all the police officers, a lot of them know me.
They know what I was doing.
But what bothered me was that I was the guy that was getting harassed by the police.
Everybody else there was breaking the law.
They were up on the building.
They were putting out Roman candles, all these things.
But the one guy that was, you know, and it worked out okay.
They left me alone.
I don't know why the guy did it.
And I didn't pursue it.
I'm not going to pursue it.
You know, stuff happens out there.
But, you know, I'm not upset about it now.
I was for a couple of minutes because I was kind of hurt.
You know, it hurts when you get hit to get there.
Don't touch me.
Someone don't touch me.
No, you don't touch me.
Don't ever touch me.
I'm Joe Warmaker for the Corona Sun.
I'm going to stand here.
If you touch me again.
Just am I on the side of the map.
No, I'm fine.
I'm fine.
I'm doing my job.
You're just leaving me alone.
Do your job.
You know, Joe, I have an interest in this because I've followed the Middle East for a long time, just out of interest.
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I'm also Jewish, and I've been to Israel and I'm pro-Israel.
So sometimes I think, well, am I just concerned about this because I'm a Jew?
And I think, no, I think I would be concerned if there was another group that was being targeted with weekly hate marches so thinly veiled.
Like when they say there is only one solution, intifada revolution, intifada is an Arabic word meaning a riot.
And when they say from the river to the sea, Israel will be free, and they have various versions of that in English and Arabic.
They're talking about ethnically cleansing every Jew from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
They try and, some of them try and disguise their language by talking about Zionists instead of Jews.
But to me, that would be like saying, oh, I don't hate Italians.
I just hate Italy.
Well, Italians, like, or I don't hate the French people.
I just hate France and everything to do with France.
And not all French people like France.
That's an insane thing to say.
Like Zion is, it's a place.
It's part of the Bible.
It's sort of the ancestral home of the Jewish people.
So these are little fig leaves.
So what would I say if there was this hatred towards another, and I don't need to be crazy and say hatreds towards Italians, which I, but what if they went after blacks this way and say, oh, I don't hate black people.
I just, you know, any group, you know, blacks.
I would like to think I would be on the side of the people being beat up.
But, you know, but the fact that you're Jewish and that, you know, you're sort of wrestling with that, you're allowed to feel however you want to feel.
And we're going to talk about the Mara Chow thing in a moment.
But that's part of who you are.
And you would be right.
Now, the fact that non-Jewish people are offended, whether it's myself or Warren Ginsello or Brian Lilly, et cetera, it's because we are people that cover Canada.
And that's happening.
If that was Muslims that were being treated like that, we would be there.
You would be there.
Yeah.
We have Muslims in our company.
And if someone were just to go to their mosques and shout all day at them or go to their schools or vandalize or shoot, I went to that Jewish school, the Beisch Chaia Mushka school, where mass people in the morning shot at it, where they tried to burn things down.
It's outrageous.
The MP doesn't show up to it.
And then I saw your clip dealing with the Attorney General, I think.
There's something important like that.
Let me play that if I may.
So this is Michael Kirzner.
He's a Jew.
And he's a proud Jew, he says, and I don't doubt it.
But his job as Solicitor General, he's the minister in charge of all police in Ontario, which means basically, like, he's not going to get in and say, arrest that guy, arrest that guy.
But he can say, okay, we're going to uphold the law.
By the way, there happens to be a law against harassing a church. or synagogue or mosque.
It's disturbing a religious, I don't have the exact wording in my head, but there's a special criminal code provision against harassing churches and synagogues and mosques.
And there was like an eight-hour protest outside a Jewish synagogue in North in Thornhill that had nothing to do with this war.
It's just a synagogue.
And so I asked Kirzner, why are your police standing by?
Why don't we see some of that trucker convoy style policing?
And I pressed him on it about three times.
And let me just show the clip.
I was so disappointed in his answer.
Take a look.
Do you need to see it again?
Or do you remember what he said?
So he's basically saying, oh, I'm a good Jew and I wear a yarmulke and every week I protest.
Those are all private acts.
I'm looking for, I would rather, I don't care the race or religion in the minister in charge of police.
I just want him to have the police do some policing.
He's obviously scared.
Well, let me just finish that down.
Scared either of a violent reaction by these Hamas mobs, and that's a fair enough thing, or he's scared about political, his boss saying, hey, there's a lot of Muslims in Ontario now, four times as many as there are Jews.
We need to win elections, so just hush now and just tell everybody about your yarmulke.
How come there were no charges under Section 176.2 of the criminal code besetting a house of worship when all those protesters were outside the Bayat Synagogue in Thornhill?
Well, that's a question that you're going to have to ask the York Regional Police or the Attorney General.
I'm here because I'm not going to see my community intimidated.
I speak out all the time in support of our Jewish community.
I'm not afraid to wear my kippah.
I'm not afraid to go to synagogue every Sabbath, every Shabbat.
And I'm going to do everything that I can to stand up for our inherent right to live safely in our own homes and communities.
And I'm not going to stop.
Everything short of prosecuting them, though, right?
I mean, the U of T remains encamped with an illegal encampment.
You're very good on Twitter, but have you actually done any prosecutions?
Well, again, this is something that you have to speak to the Attorney General.
He's your colleague.
You're in the government.
You're on the inside.
No, what I can tell you is I'm working every day to our legislation, that our regulations are adhered to.
I'm standing up with my community.
I've been 34 weeks almost every single week to the rally at Batherston Shepard in support of remembering the hostages who have been held against their will in captivity in Gaza.
And it's not acceptable.
Well, and that's exactly, and that's exactly what I'm saying.
It obviously is acceptable since you're not prosecuting it.
You have condoned it.
You've created a new normal where people can engage in low-level, permanent, anti-Semitic crimes, assault, threats, mischief, because you guys don't prosecute.
But there you are on Twitter, though, so congrats for that.
It's important that the Jewish community sees a person from their own community in the Ontario legislature standing up against hate every single day, who has the support of a premier who has called it out.
Where are the other levels of government today who exercise the same voice that Premier Ford does, that we will not accept anti-Semitism and the United States?
And have accepted it.
Where's the prosecution?
Again, this is something you could ask Minister Varani.
You can ask the Prime Minister.
The province, the province prosecutes.
The province prosecutes.
Better save your boss.
That's what I was going to say, was that he's doing the political calculation, but the job of Solicitor General belongs to us.
And we've given him, you know, the province, the freedom has given him that job.
It's a daunting task because he's supposed to keep us safe.
And you questioned him.
No, I give him credit for at least hanging in there and doing the interview with you.
Yeah, I think he was surprised.
You didn't even know who it was.
Right, but he still did it and he hung in there.
And, you know, but I do agree with you that because it's not just that one incident.
It's been a whole year's worth of things.
You know, there would be a lot of rules put in place if it was something else.
I mean, and so you called him out on it.
He didn't like it.
I think the style of journalism that you do kind of is what we talked about originally when I was at the Briar, which is it's not controlled when you go straight at the people.
There's no media people in the middle, no appointments, and he has no briefing notes.
He's just got to think on his feet and you put him on the spot and you do that well.
But at the same time, that is a person there.
He's elected.
And sometimes it's important to remember that to not forget that.
It is difficult and to sort of win the point, win the argument as opposed to scoring the point.
Do you know what I mean?
And I'm not suggesting you didn't win the argument or not score a point, but you want to get it so that things are done properly.
And the pressure, they've, you know, I learned this from Bob McDonald and Peter Worthington because I worked at the Toronto Sun so long.
Those guys were the legends that started the paper.
And they both told me that nothing is more powerful than putting heat on a politician when they feel the heat.
And that's what you were bringing there.
And that from that is change.
And the other side understands that too.
They put the heat on and say, look, like a guy like Mohammed Faki, you know, is a good example.
Yeah.
You know, like he's all Trudeau all the time, and now he's turned on Trudeau.
And so that's what they do.
And we have to kind of counterbalance that.
You know, I think, let me give you two counter examples of policing.
About a couple months ago in the UK, there were some riots with a racial tinge to them.
And the prime minister there, Sir Keir Starmer, who used to be the chief prosecutor for all of the UK, he said, if you tweeted anything, you're going to jail.
And he set up 24-hour, like he just immediately set up 24-hour day courts where they just put the cases through by the hundred.
They tweeted pictures.
They went through social media.
Even like, and they boasted about who they were jailing.
They made a big fuss about it.
And for the most insane things, someone was jailed for gesticulating.
Someone was jailed for shouting at a police.
Police state.
You're describing a police state.
But Huxley's.
It was shocking.
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Hundreds of people just for sharing images of it.
One guy said to the cops, you're not even British anymore.
Jail.
I mean, these are real examples.
And hundreds of people jailed.
The legal system was put into overdrive.
Everyone's scared.
I don't agree with that, by the way, but that's what was done to blunt a political movement that burst into riot here and there.
And I think back two generations ago when black students were being integrated in the school system in the U.S. South, and the National Guard literally escorted those black kids to school.
So there have been times when the authorities said we're not going to be deterred by street tufts.
And you can agree or disagree with either of those examples.
That could be, that's how they do it in Dubai.
There have been no hate marches in Dubai.
Some guy shouted some pro-Hamas thing at a graduation, kicked out of the country or jailed.
Dubai is more friendly.
It's safer for Jews in Dubai than in Toronto.
No, there are Jewish synagogues in Dubai.
I've seen them.
They're not vandalized.
They're not protested with hate marches.
I think it's a lack of political will because everyone's afraid.
And every single day, thousands more migrants come to Canada.
We've had 2 million people come to Canada in the last year.
It's a staggering number.
People don't believe it.
There's 1 million people here on student visas for those fake diploma mills, 750,000 temporary foreign workers.
Then there's the official immigrants, and then there's the refugees.
And don't forget the Wroxham Road, which you covered.
Yeah.
How many came across there?
So 2 million people a year.
And are 15 or 20% of them from countries that are inherently endemically anti-Semitic?
Absolutely.
We're bringing people in from Gaza for.
When you go to the voting booth, they don't ask you for Canadian citizenship.
So there's an opportunity to just go, if you're on the list to vote.
And I think that we'll have to keep an eye on that, because a lot of people think that Pierre Polyev is going to form this government.
It's going to be easy because the polls say that.
But if it's 2 million, like you say, a year, and we've still got a year and even more than that if they want to, they can stretch this to 26.
It could be 4 million people.
So don't think they know what they're doing.
They're bringing in people as a power base.
And it's working.
I mean, obviously, when you see what we're seeing here now, when people actually celebrate October 7th, the slaughter.
It would be like celebrating 9-11.
Or Pearl Harbor.
You don't see the Japanese out celebrating Pearl Harbor.
And if you did, there would be people upset about it.
Look, we all know what it is.
And it's interesting that the Solicitor General and all the law enforcement and most of the politicians, they're just too afraid of it.
And so only the rebel, really.
I mean, I want to pay you a compliment because I think that, you know, whether it's the truckers thing or all the different things you do, the public knows you're going to be there.
They know you're going to travel to wherever it is, whether it's the Tommy Robinson stuff or whatever it is.
And that's why you have, I don't know what your subscriptions are like, but it's double what a lot of the media is because they've kind of washed their hands of it.
They're not doing it anymore.
And you've picked up that vibe.
And they've stopped you.
I mean, if it wasn't for all that monetization on YouTube and all that stuff, you would have a CTV-style studio.
You know, YouTube cutting us off cut off a million dollars a year.
You can hire a lot of staff for a million bucks.
You can do a lot of things.
Hey, I want to talk about just a few days ago, the anniversary of October 7th.
There's a large Jewish community in Toronto, probably about 200,000.
There's a little under 100,000 in Montreal.
And then there's a smattering in other places.
So Toronto has really been one of the toughest battlegrounds.
It used to be such a Jewish city.
Jews were so comfy here.
Jewish mayors, Jewish leaders of industry.
And now the Jews are on the back foot.
This vigil on Monday at the anniversary, yes, it was mainly about Israel, but it was also about what's happening here in Canada.
And Premier Doug Ford, to his credit, showed up.
There's an independent MP from Toronto named Kevin Vuong, who I understand is ethnically Vietnamese, if I'm not mistaken.
And he's been against this anti-Semitic crime wave.
He's been a starver.
He's very impressive, and he has no skin in the game, so to speak.
He's not a Jew.
In fact, his riding has got a lot of Muslim vote.
He's probably going to lose his running just for that alone.
If he's an independent, it would be already an uphill battle.
But he didn't do that calculus that we mentioned before.
He knows what's right.
Oh, by the way, I don't know if you saw this the other day.
Melanie Jolie, in a private conversation with, I think it was Thomas Mulcair, said, have you looked at the demographics of my district?
Like basically the foreign minister for all of Canada was suggesting she makes her decisions not based on Canada's interests, but what some little neighborhoods in her own district have to say, just astonishing.
So Monday was this anniversary, and I think there were 10 to 20,000 people there.
I couldn't tell.
I think I heard a lot of people came and left, and then more people came because I was a little late.
I saw people leaving and then waves of people.
So I think it's over 20,000.
It was very big.
And there was high security.
There were SWAT teams there.
Yeah, I've got some pictures of that, which we'll show some of that.
We've got police drones, police helicopters, sniffer dogs, metal detectors.
We couldn't even bring in a selfie stick.
And that's what it's like to be a Jew in Toronto on October 7th anniversary.
I can understand now why the prime minister wasn't there because he was in another event in Ottawa.
Fair play.
He's prime minister for the whole country.
He doesn't have to be Toronto-centric.
The Premier was there.
Okay, good.
But where was the mayor, Olivia Chow?
Her city is not just part of a regular crime wave, but an anti-Semitic crime wave.
She's out at, she goes to every community thing because she's not really focused on policy and ideas.
She likes the party scene.
So she'll she goes to everything.
She dresses up like the people, like the Carabana.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that stuff.
It takes four hours to put that on.
She'll wear a hijab to events.
Yeah, that's so like getting to events is not her issue, except for this one.
Yeah, and why don't you tell us the story?
Because you broke the story.
You were there, and thank God they had no political speeches.
No politicians were giving speeches, but you could see who the politicians were, Kevin Wong and the Premier.
And tell us the story.
Why wasn't the mayor there?
Started on my way there.
I was actually watching your live feed on my phone.
And you had mentioned the Trudeau wasn't there.
And you had mentioned that you hadn't seen Olivia Chow.
That doesn't mean she's not there, but it was certainly something that entered my mind because I'm a Toronto columnist.
That's what I am.
And I don't cover Trudeau unless it's some reason to.
I cover him here or there.
So I went there.
I had a look.
I saw John Torrey there.
I didn't get into the mosh pit.
I mean, I was what I could tell, though.
But I sent an email.
I'm doing my job to the mayor's office and said, were you there?
If not, I didn't see you there.
And I've talked to some people.
Nobody saw you there.
Can you let me know?
That's at 10 o'clock on the night of the 7th, still on the 7th.
7 a.m.
I now know she wasn't there because I reached out to James Pasternak, the tremendous counselor for a long time.
And he's Jewish himself.
And Brad Bradford, another outstanding counselor, ran for mayor against Chow.
They said that she wasn't in the tent.
As far as they know, they don't think she was there.
And Pastornak told me that he had asked her if she was going to go that.
And I put that in the story.
I mentioned this because it's important for what happens later.
I wrote the story.
I reached out to the mayor's office.
They didn't get back to me right away.
I posted the story.
It was up there for many hours about how she wasn't there and the reaction to it and the concerns that people had with it and my own concerns with it.
It was not a damning report.
It was all factual.
This is something I get a call on the 8th, around 3 in the afternoon, from somebody named Ariane Robinson, who's her media person.
That's who I deal with when I need things from the mayor.
Never had an issue with her before.
And her first reaction was, this is hours after she didn't even know.
I don't know if she knew my piece was published or not, but she said, we didn't get an invitation.
And I said, okay, you didn't get an invitation.
So what are you saying?
And what she was trying to say was the mayor wasn't invited.
And actually, this is on UJA now.
That's the Jewish group that was organized.
Yeah, United Jewish Appeal Federation and CEJA, which is Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs, I think.
Right.
We deal with all with them as reporters and deal with B'nai Brith and all that stuff.
The last year, I've got to know everybody dealing with all that.
They're tremendous to deal with.
But she said all that about them.
And I said, well, that is a big story.
She said, well, it's a very, very big story.
So the mayor's spokesman is saying it's a big story that we were snubbed.
It's a big story that they didn't want.
That's how I took it.
That's what she said.
So right away, as soon as I get off, I said, do you want me to go into that story right now?
Because I'll do it.
And I'll put in it.
The mayor was actually the one snubbed.
Send me over the information of what you have on that.
Get me, the mayor, get a quote from the mayor saying that in writing, not just talking.
And I'll stick it in the story right away.
Well, and I said right away when you hear the well, I said, well, you go to work and you do that.
Boom.
Off the phone, next calls to UJA.
And I talked to someone over there named Michelle Stock.
I remember the name from, she works in, you know, she's been around a while.
She does a great job.
And I said, the mayor's office says that you did not invite the mayor to this thing.
So I'm doing my job.
Put her on.
You answer that.
She says, well, we invited her.
I said, do you have some proof of that?
I went to journalism school.
And she said, yeah.
I said, can you send me that?
I'm glad I said it right away because she'd sent it to me.
She didn't have time.
She's a vice president.
But sometimes organizations, I don't know what they're going to do.
They've been outstanding, but you don't know.
They might just say, look, let's not stir this up.
Let's just take this one and get on.
No, no, she sent me the, and I have it, and it's right to the scheduler for the mayor, the email.
And it says, you haven't received, we haven't heard from you on three other occasions.
It's not one invitation, Ezra.
Not two, not three, four.
So she's boycotting the event.
You know what?
They're still double.
Boycotting it and lying about it.
That's the way they're claiming she's the victim, that she's the one being snubbed.
This would be like someone refusing to go to a 9-11 memorial and blaming the families or something for.
Let me ask you a question, and I'll answer the question that I'm going to ask as well.
Did you get an invitation to go to that?
No, of course not.
I just saw about it on social media.
You kind of thought that they might have that, and you thought, I'm going to go to that event.
I went there out of support for the Jewish community.
And the last year, all the people I've got to know because of this.
And I also went to cover it.
Both.
I think you did the same.
I think most normal people went there.
John Torrey, the former mayor, was there.
You know, he's not the mayor anymore.
He didn't get an invitation.
He knew it was there.
You know who was there?
The mayor of Vaughan, Stephen Del Dew.
Right.
I saw him.
What's he doing there?
And why he's there?
Because he cares about it.
And that's why everybody was there.
I mean, Marco Mendocino was there.
And I think Melissa Lanceman was there.
Maybe she was the one in Ottawa.
I'm not sure if she was there or not.
Did you see Melissa Lanceman?
I can't.
She probably was at the one in Ottawa because she's the deputy leader.
But nonetheless, Bonnie Crombie was there.
All stripes all.
She has a very large Muslim population, by the way, but she came to this event.
Good for her.
Yeah, so then, you know, I go back and when she called me back, Arianne called me back, and she's saying they're going for this, that there was a computer malfunction of some kind, and they're really pushing for it.
And I said to her, well, James Pastranak told me that he told the mayor.
And I'm almost like, are you sure you want to do this?
Because I'm almost trying to help her because I'm like, I'm surprised by this thing.
And she says, well, did you have that in the story?
And I said, I think so, but I don't remember.
So I quickly looked and I said, it's in the story that he said it.
And they still went forward with it.
And so now I'm kind of offended because I'm thinking, you know, like I'm not really big on putting lies that I know are wrong, that I know are spent.
But I guess what I was supposed to do was just take her at her word and put it in there.
The problem was that it wasn't true.
The reason I mentioned all that is because the next day is still happening where now they're still doubling down on it.
The mayor finally, under all those pressures, said she's sorry, but she's not sorry to the, you know, for missing it, you know, sorry to the Jewish community for missing it.
She's sorry that she couldn't get there because of the communications issues and that she's worked that out with CJA and UGA and they'll be a little bit better at it next time.
Now, they have never heard from her.
I mean, I've asked them that question too.
And I said to people that I work with, it's the same strategy that they used the first time, which is just put out what they want it to be.
There's no receipts to back it up.
But the mayor said she's sorry.
And if you look at the son's front page, it covers it.
It says, you know, it's a sorry state here.
You know, I was there and I didn't really report on anything from the stage because there were some victims who gave a very compelling.
There's a pregnant lady who was caught in this October 7th attack.
Her testimony was shocking and her husband was wounded and he thought he was going to die and they're communicating, don't you die on me?
It was actually a very powerful story.
But I didn't cover those because I was there for the political angle.
So what I did is I did what we call streeters, just talking to random people.
We put together a video.
Dangerous Days Ahead00:03:50
And to me, there's only one possible way to stop this from getting worse.
You're not going to change the mind of that mob, Navada One, the paid provocateurs, or people who aren't really that active, but they come from a place where hating Jews is normal.
In fact, it's come from anti-fossils.
Absolutely.
To me, the only way to stop this from getting worse.
Coopie.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, you're right.
I mean, you can have a Holocaust education day in school.
It's not going to make a difference.
In fact, all they'll do is say, yeah, and now the Jews are doing that to the Muslims.
The only way to stop this, in my view, is to stop out-of-control immigration from people who have un-Canadian ideas like anti-Semitism, hate, violent solutions to problems.
If you don't turn off the tap, the fear that has stopped the police is fear of the violent mob, but mainly fear of their political bosses.
Michael Kirzner knows that he is sleeping at the switch and he's doing it because if he were to enforce the law, there would be a thousand Mohammed Fakis saying, this is Islamophobia.
You've got to let us have our hate marches.
I think the only way to save Canada is to keep it Canadian and not whatever this is on the streets.
And it's not Canadian because they're burning Canadian flags.
Well, I wanted to, you know, since we're going talking about this, I think there's another clip that we can play.
It's very important.
And that happened in Toronto.
And it was a fight over the parking spot.
And there's a gentleman there that is talking to a Jewish person.
And you know the clip I'm talking about.
I'm not sure.
Well, he incites Hitler in it.
Right.
At that auto body shop.
Right.
And can we play that clip?
Yeah, absolutely.
And then I'll comment on why it's important.
Yeah, here's a clip just absolutely crazy.
And we went down there.
David went down.
David mentioned a reporter, went down there.
Turns out this guy is a customer of that store and he hangs out there.
Take a look at this.
It's quite something.
I mean, if this guy was a white trucker.
Well, this guy lives in Kershaw's, Ontario, and Chow's, Toronto.
Let's take a look.
Fake Jew.
You have the right to fing partner and I don't.
Well, what is the f you?
And f your mother and your grandmother and your great-grandmother, your finger fake Jew.
What about Hitler?
I said, I said Hitler should have wiped every fing one of you off the planet.
He said, arrest me, Uncle.
He called me a Jew again.
There it is again.
Now two things.
Yeah, no charges, of course.
Well, that's the thing.
What I was going to say is that if you can see that David and all your people get arrested, I was pushed around different things.
You would think that this guy, I mean, it's not like we don't know who he is.
They know who he is.
In fact, he laid a complaint against the police in an earlier incident.
They know his name.
They know his phone number.
And, you know, I don't know the real story, whether he just hangs around there or whether he's involved with ownership of the building there or whatever it is.
He's there all the time.
But they've let it go and whether they charge him later.
But I'll tell you something.
When I hear how you are called all kinds of names, Islamophobic and that kind of thing.
But that guy, you know, allegedly is somebody that you would think that would get the interest of the hate crimes unit.
I mean, that is as vile as it gets.
And if that's free speech, if they say that's free speech, then all what we do here is free speech.
Yeah.
Ernst Sundall: The Known Unknown00:03:56
Well, these are dangerous days.
You know, something Mayor Weinstein said to me that day, I covered that story, and I think I broke that story.
Is that he said something that he, and that's when I first run into it, I covered Ernst Sundall.
That's how long I've been doing this kind of thing.
You know, Ernst Sundall would never say something like that.
Ernst Sundall was a Holocaust denier.
He would do his scrum, and then he would talk to like Lauren Honnockman and people like that.
He liked Lauren Honkman.
Lauren Honkman is Jewish.
And they would talk about things.
And Mayor Weinstein was one of the young, he was young at that time, and he wasn't as big as he is now.
It wasn't as intimidating.
But they would talk about things because it was never personal.
It was not, there was a cordial, it was strange.
They understood their sides.
And Mayor said, you know, Sundall never said anything like that.
You know, this guy is surpassed.
And yet, there's a whole history of Ernst Sundall being prosecuted for hate speech and things he shouldn't say.
And he went to jail.
He also went to jail in Germany.
And he's considered somebody that's, you know, like a horrific criminal in Canada and never used that language that we just heard here.
Yeah, we, you know, I.
It just shows you how bad it is now.
Yeah.
I mean, if we're going to tolerate that, if that's, you know, okay.
And, you know, according to Ontario and to Toronto so far, there's no charge for it.
You know, Rudyard Kipling, I think, is an outstanding poet and author.
He wrote the jungle book.
He wrote the poem If, which is sort of a very famous one.
He's born in India.
He came to Alberta.
He condemned Medicine Hat when they were going to change the name of their city to Gasberg or something.
He wrote a letter convincing the city elders not to change the name.
He was an amazing man.
And he wrote some poems.
Every Remembrance Day, I read his poem, Tommy, about G.I. Joe.
They call him Tommy Atkins over there.
He was very pro-troops, very patriotic.
He wrote a couple of poems that I don't know if they would be allowed today.
One was called White Man's Burden, where he basically said, go out into the world and help lift up civilizations.
That's controversial today.
He wrote a shocking one called When the English Began to Hate.
But I want to read a line from another poem that goes to what you've just talked about.
Ernst Zundel was a Holocaust denier, and he wouldn't dispute that.
That's what his mission was.
But there was, and I'm not here to defend him, there was a grain of commonality between him and Hannockman and Weinstein.
There were some civilizational things that were agreed upon.
For example, I'm sure he wouldn't hit a woman.
Let me read to you just a line from Kipling's poem written more than 100 years ago, and you tell me if this fits.
The stranger within my gate, he may be true or kind, but he does not talk my talk.
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth, but not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock, they may do ill or well, but they tell the lies I am wanted to.
They are used to the lies I tell.
And we do not need interpreters when we go to buy and sell.
The stranger within my gates, he may be evil or good, but I cannot tell what powers control, what reasons sway his mood, nor when the gods of his far-off land shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock, bitter bad they may be, but at least they hear the things I hear and see the things I see.
And whenever I think of them and their likes, they think of the likes of me.
This is my father's belief, and this is also mine.
Let the corn be all one sheaf and the grapes be all one vine, ere our children's teeth are set on edge by bitter bread and wine.
Stay Side By Side00:05:06
I believe that people can come to Canada from any place in the world and be great Canadians.
You have to work at it, though.
You have to study Canada.
You have to learn it.
You have to love it.
You have to know the customs and the language and the history and the values.
There is a Canadianness.
It's not how Justin Trudeau describes it.
A post-national state, a hotel room, an airport terminal.
There is a Canadian-ness.
And people who come here from a village in Pakistan where they have no commonality here.
By the way, one of my favorite Canadians is from Pakistan, Rahil Raza, who lives Canadian values.
But if we bring people here from stone age villages where they have ancient hatreds and no one ever told them, you can't bring that with you.
And we bring people in such numbers that they never integrate.
But I go back because I've been doing this so long and I remember, you know, when I was a kid, we had a lot of immigration from India, places like that, and everybody fit in great.
In those days, it was an unwritten rule that you became Canadian and you were proud of it.
You know, you think of the 72 hockey series, all those names, Mahovlich and Esposito and all that stuff.
Everybody embraced Canada.
In my own home, there's an Asian feel to it because I'm the only sort of, you know, my son is, his mom's from Asia.
We have an older boy who's born in Asia.
But it's a Canadian household.
I mean, we're watching a Leaf Game and all that stuff.
And all the way back to the 2010 Olympics, watching Sidney Crosby.
You know, it's powerful.
I wore this today and I asked about it if it's, I thought it was appropriate to wear it today because we're getting close to Remembrance Day.
But every day is Remembrance Day for a lot of us.
And, you know, I think it's really important that we don't forget those hostages.
I know this doesn't represent those hostages, but it does in terms of freedom.
And also all the things about Don Cherry that we, you know, because everything we've talked about here today, this man's 90 years old.
He's sitting all alone.
He's shunned by people.
He's never mentioned on Hockey Night in Canada.
And he did not say any of these things that that guy said.
All he said, and it was my column about how people don't wear the poppies.
And he mentioned it that night.
And he said everything that he said to me, but we talked over 20 minutes.
He wasn't under five minutes.
These lights and all that stuff, the pressure.
And they threw him under the bus.
The number one television personality in Canadian history.
There's nobody bigger.
And we threw him under the bus, and he's not part of it.
He's, you know, no order of Canada, no nothing.
Just casting him aside.
So I don't forget that.
But the reality is that this is a great country, but it has to be, you know, it has to be fought for.
The freedoms have to be.
Obviously, we saw that in the pandemic.
I remember all the time, you know, in the pandemic, every time I would see you in the mall, you would retweet it.
It's always cool when you do that.
And I showed how you had to have a passport to get into the food court.
But you can stay on this side, even if you're full of disease, but you can't stay on that side.
This happened in Canada.
All these other things happened.
I remember taking my son to the hockey arena, and they had an airport-style security.
The very first time my son said, well, because he was a little younger, and he's like, Oh, what's this all about?
Are the police going to arrest us?
Or what's the, you know, he didn't know.
I said, no.
But they're asking for passports and stuff about that.
And my mom is in her 80s and that.
We're not showing a passport to go into the hockey arena.
That belongs to us.
We pay the taxes.
And we walked right in.
But you're in there, you're wondering, are they going to call the police?
Because there were those kinds of stories and that kind of thing.
But Canadians let that happen, Ezra.
They did.
They let it happen.
Sean Hartman, the young hockey player that died, nobody has covered the story outside of, you know, I did a little bit, not as much as I should have or would have liked to have.
You've covered it.
But there's a lot of people that died because of the vaccines.
More than 400 Canadians that they admit to died.
It's way higher than that.
But Canadians, when they were given the test of how they're going to handle having their freedoms taken away, what did they do?
They buckled.
And so I don't know if I have a lot of faith in it because I think that people are afraid.
They're afraid.
Michael Kirzner, the guy that's in charge of the police, he's afraid.
The mayor is openly, I mean, didn't go to the most important event in this city this year.
You have to be there.
Even if you don't agree with it, you have to be there.
That's her job.
We don't have her there to decide that she doesn't go to those events.
She represents me there as a Torontoian.
And Stephen Del Duca got that.
And so did Doug Ford and so did John Torrey.
I would like to think that if black Canadians or another ethnicity were being vilified, attacked, physically attacked, threatened, hate marches.
I would like to think I would be there.
Well, you would be there because I've seen you there.
Preston Manning's Influence00:02:44
I mean, these things do come up and we're the first.
And in a way, the COVID battle was one such battle.
I'm myself, you know, I'm not jabbed.
I run a company, so my employer is me.
I'm not going to be forced to be jabbed.
But I believe that we stood up for people who were a minority that was picked on and the police were involved there.
But what's going on with the Jews?
I mean, I was at this Jewish event, this UJA event.
People were talking to me about leaving the country.
Jews leaving a country for safety reasons?
That sounds like something out of medieval times or under the Second World War.
Joe, I love your journalism on this.
I think you're the best street-smart shoe leather reporter around.
We try and emulate you to a degree at Rebel News.
And I'm grateful for all the work you do.
Well, look, thanks for the invitation.
It's been a while since we've been here and that we've seen each other.
And, you know, I do a lot of your stories.
I mean, you break a lot of stories or you inspire them and I follow them up.
And I know sometimes I do the same and you follow them up.
But at the core of it, I met you.
You don't remember meeting me, but I remember I was a columnist for a year and a half at the Calgary Sun.
That's where I learned to be a columnist.
I went there from the Toronto Sun in 2000, or sorry, in 1997.
And I was there till 1998.
I was there a couple of years.
That was the time when Preston Manning won the 66 seats.
And at that time, the Calgary Sun supported Jean Chara.
And you were a columnist.
I had read your stuff.
You were a younger 25 or something.
Yeah, but I remember you coming in and kind of quitting on principle.
And I was there for that.
And I thought, this guy has such integrity because he's giving up a spot in the paper, which is not an easy thing to do.
There's only 100 columnists in the country.
It's hard to get a column.
It's hard to keep one.
And you were prepared to stand up for what you believed.
And you were upset that the Sun at that time didn't support Preston Manning.
All the columnists did, Rick Bell, Linda Slobodian, those are two legendary viewers in Alberta know who they are.
I learned a lot from both of them.
And I was an Ontario guy out there covering it, but we all supported Preston Manning at that time.
It made the only sense.
But you stood on principle.
So I just want to say that it's always an honor.
Ever since then, I've followed your career, Western Standard, all the things you do.
It's an honor for me to be here.
Well, you're very kind, Joe.
Great to see you.
Thanks for being here.
Happy holidays, everybody.
Yeah, there you go.
Our friend Joe Warmington spending the last hour plus with us.
What a treat to have him in our studios.
Thank you for joining us.
From all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home.