Ezra Levant and Billboard Chris Elston critique Alberta’s Danielle Smith for her proposed transgender policies, including bans on youth gender surgeries and male athletes in women’s sports, while pushing for stricter measures like full puberty blocker prohibitions. They highlight grassroots opposition—like a 3,000-person Sikh protest in Surrey—and claim cultural backlash from immigrant communities contrasts with progressive white activism. Elston ties gender ideology to safety risks, citing a male inmate’s prison transfer after breast implants, and plans U.S.-Canada expansion via workshops, crowdfunding, and UN advocacy with Alliance Defending Freedom. Meanwhile, they attack Tim Walz’s China ties, Kamala Harris’ rhetoric, and Canada’s military decline, pinning hope on ex-veteran filmmaker Aaron Gunn as a potential leader to reverse perceived failures. [Automatically generated summary]
One of my favorite guys, a very brave man who walks with kings and the common people.
He spends a lot of time on the street with a billboard around his name.
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All right, here's today's podcast.
Tonight, Danielle Smith announces a bill on transgenderism.
We'll talk to Billboard Chris, the expert on the subject.
It's October 4th, and this is the Esch Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
The entire culture is in favor of transgenderism.
It really came out of nowhere 10 years ago.
No one even used the phrase.
20 years ago, it was the subject of some amusement, like the movie Tootsie with Dustin Hoffman or Mrs. Doubtfire with Robin Williams.
Well, it's deadly serious now.
It's so pervasive throughout our entire culture.
And I've never seen a harsher enforcement of cancel culture before Elon Musk took over Twitter, misgendering someone or dead naming someone.
That's when you call someone by the name their mama gave them, as opposed to their gender-neutral name they just adopted.
That would be the absolute fastest way to be suspended or banned from Twitter around.
It's just astonishing the force of the cancel culture behind it.
But what happens if you simply hold your ground?
Because it's my belief, and I think it's my observation, that it's elite institutions that are enforcing this, but ordinary people aren't quite convinced.
In fact, I think they're rather troubled by it.
One of the reasons why support for LGBTQ2SL plus is declining is, in my opinion, because of the T.
I think people accept the L and the G, but it's the T and more specifically the T forcing itself into schools and to children that is causing people to back away from what used to be an equality agenda.
Well, Danielle Smith, the Premier of Alberta, has shown some boldness on this subject and has been willing to brave the attempts to cancel her.
Can you cancel a provincial premier?
They're trying to, but let me show you what Danielle Smith said that caused all the fuss.
Transgenderism in Schools00:03:06
Here's her recent statement about minor youth, about children and transgenderism.
Take a look.
Firstly, licensed Alberta doctors will be prohibited from performing gender assignment surgeries on youth under the age of 18 in Alberta.
Puberty lockers and hormone therapies for the purpose of gender reassignment for minors under the age of 16 will also be prohibited unless a minor has already commenced their treatment at this time.
For 16 and 17 year olds wishing to proceed with puberty blockers or other hormone therapies for the purpose of gender reassignment, they may do so only if they have parental, psychologist, and doctor approval.
In our schools, the proposed legislation will now require parental notification and consent for a teacher or staff member to change a child's name or pronoun and publicly use that new name or pronoun in a classroom setting or school assembly.
And to be clear, this does not mean reporting or outing a student for their private conversations with friends or teachers regarding their gender identity.
For 16 or 17 year olds who choose to alter their name or pronoun used in school, they may do so without parental consent, so long as parents are still notified in advance.
In those extremely rare circumstances where a teacher feels that a child might be at risk should the parents be notified of a desired name or pronoun change, Alberta Education will provide a protocol to ensure the protection of that child throughout the parental notification process.
I am convinced that parents, even those who may disagree with the decision of their child, will still love and care for that child no matter what choices they make.
It would be wise for all of us to remember that rather than questioning the love of parents and their paramount role as the primary caregivers and teachers of their children.
In addition, the newly proposed legislation will require parental notification and a parental opt-in requirement for each instance a teacher intends to address issues or subject matter involving gender identity, sexual orientation, or human sexuality.
Furthermore, the provision of resource materials or presentations to students related to these subjects in our K-12 schools must be approved by the Ministry of Education to ensure age appropriateness and relevance to school curriculum.
And finally, as it pertains to women and girls in competitive sports, proposed legislation will be tabled that prohibits individuals born biologically male from competing against women and girls in competitive sporting competitions.
This will apply to all competitive women's and girls' sports in all provincial sporting organizations, as well as in our schools and post-secondary competitive sporting divisions.
Obviously, this prohibition will not apply to recreational or co-ed divisions.
And our government will support the formation of additional co-ed and recreational divisions so that all athletes have as many opportunities as possible to compete in their sport of choice.
In closing, I again sincerely ask that as we discuss and debate this proposed legislation, both before and after it is tabled, that we do all we can to depoliticize the discussion and focus on the well-being of the children and youth most affected by these policies.
Legislating Gender in Sports00:02:33
Well, I found that very balanced.
In fact, some might criticize it and say, well, she's specifically allowing 16 and 17 year olds to take puberty blockers in certain cases.
Some would say that this rather institutionalizes some transgenderism.
But of course, the main reaction to it will be those squawking, how dare you say children cannot irrevocably alter their bodies with surgery.
And how dare you keep transgendered athletes out of girls' teams and leagues?
I think it's an excellent proposal, and the way she describes it is so friendly and caring.
I think it reveals the ideological agenda of the other side.
Well, let's talk to a person who I actually think is one of the world's leading experts on these subjects.
Not that he's a PhD, but frankly, having a PhD in this subject, I think, almost always disqualifies you.
But I mean someone who has probably spoken to more people about it than anyone else in the world.
And by people, I mean sometimes literally standing on the street with a sign inviting people to come and talk to him, people of every point of view, you probably know who I'm talking about.
He's nicknamed Billboard Chris Elston, and he joins us now from his home in the Vancouver area.
Billboard Chris, Chris, great to see you again.
You're traveling around the world.
You're giving presentations, whether it's to the United Nations or to government bodies.
Really, this is your area of expertise that you've learned one person at a time, one conversation at a time, haven't you?
Yes, I've had tens of thousands of these conversations, having spent thousands of hours out on the street in busy downtown centers at university campuses in nine countries in the world now, eight provinces, about 22 states, and 80 or 90 different cities.
So I've immersed myself in this for really the past five years.
My campaign is just a little over four years long, but I've pretty much read all there is to read about this.
And I do have many friends who are the PhD experts on this subject, as well as many people who have gone through this transition and then detransitioned who speak about the harms.
So there's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that there is wide public support for doing exactly what Premier Daniel Smith is doing.
Public Support for Gender Policies00:15:19
And yes, you could say the measures don't go far enough.
I don't believe that 16 and 17 year old autistic kids who've suffered sexual abuse or trauma or have borderline personality disorder or other issues.
I don't believe we should be stopping puberty in them and slowly destroying their bodies with the opposite sex hormones.
But it's a fabulous start and we have to start somewhere.
And also the issues about school, not teaching gender identity and sexual orientation to children without their parents knowing, this is a common thing that all people throughout the population would agree with.
We would like our children to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic, not LGBTQ ology.
And that's been a real emphasis of the LGBT side of things and a lot of the teacher activists.
They want to have these secret clubs, these secret meetings.
And the secrecy, that's not an aspersion or an insult.
That is part of how they structure these things so that parents are not informed so parents can't intervene.
The parents are sort of treated as the villain or the enemy or the person who would object.
You can see how critics of it use the word grooming.
And of course, the teachers are appalled by that phrase because of its connotations.
But what else is it?
When you try and separate a child from the conversation and care of their family and fill their head with an ideology that gets them to make the most astonishing life changes.
And the whole thing is done in secrecy from parents.
That is happening.
That's a core to what are sometimes called gay straight alliances, somehow, sometimes what they're named.
As if a teacher cares more about a student than their own parents.
I think there's a snobbery there.
There's a condescension.
And there's sort of the communist belief that children belong to the government rather than to a family.
That's right.
If you look at these BC teachers unions or any of these teachers unions, such as the BC Teachers Federation, it's written into their own documents that it is policy of all the BC schools to hide from parents when their own child takes on a new name and pronouns at school.
These teachers, these 24-year-old teachers who just graduated from university last year, are conducting what amounts to a psychological intervention on what is a medical problem.
Gender dysphoria is a psychiatric diagnosis.
This is a mental health issue.
And we now have unqualified teachers conducting mental health interventions with absolutely no training to do so while hiding it from parents.
So yes, absolutely, this is ideological grooming.
There's no other word for it.
And no one loves a child like their parents do.
So what the heck are they doing keeping secrets from parents?
Yeah.
You know, one of the phrases that I know you use a lot, and sometimes it's on the billboards that you wear, is no one is born in the wrong body.
And that's so plain and so obvious.
And yet that is the message.
I mean, I've told my viewers before when I was in London, I heard a speech by the head of something called the Gay Men's Network.
And I'm not, I don't usually hear speeches by people who lead something called a gay men's network.
But he said that if he were young today, I mean, he's a gay man.
He said that he would have been put on a track to be chopped up.
That instead of being who he is, they would have said, no, you're a girl trapped in a boy's body.
We got to cut off your parts.
And we've heard transgenderism be described as a war on women.
And I think there's some truth there because it's a war on women's spaces, change rooms, prisons, bathrooms, other intimate places, and a war on the identity of what a woman is.
That's true.
But it's also a war on gay men.
Or at least I was convinced of that by this head of the Gay Men's Network in the UK.
What do you think of his thesis?
Yeah, I think that's probably Dennis Kavanaugh you're referring to.
That's exactly who.
Yeah, you know who, yeah, I forgot his name for the moment, but very, very persuasive character.
Go ahead.
Yes.
So this, there's no more homophobic movement in the world than transgender ideology.
If people go to my ex account, Twitter account, at Billboard Chris, you'll see a couple of videos from just a few days ago.
One was a woman on the streets in Lisbon, Portugal, where I was there for a conference.
And she told me that her son, when he was three years old, this is according to her, she said that he felt God had made a mistake, that he was supposed to be a girl and he wanted to be a girl.
But she lovingly but firmly stated that, well, you might want that, but you're not that.
You're a boy and there's no right or wrong way to be a boy.
And he grew up being a more effeminate boy.
He preferred to bake cookies and the boys would bully him and the girls would defend him from the boys that were bullying him.
And he grew up and he is, to no one's surprise, a gay man.
He's now a 33-year-old, healthy gay man.
If he was growing up today, these trans activists would be saying that he was born in the wrong body and that he would only find true happiness by going on puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and getting a surgery.
They'd turn him into a lifelong pharmaceutical patient instead of just letting him be.
So who are the people committing conversion therapy here?
It's not us.
I'm out here with a message that all these kids are beautiful just as they are.
These trans activists are saying these kids were born wrong.
I mean, can you think of a more insane, psychologically abusive message than that?
And then just two or three days ago, I spoke with a young woman.
She's a lesbian.
She had the same complaints.
So many people, so many young lesbians are now being taught that they were born wrong and that they should have been a man and they're going on testosterone and they're getting double mastectomies.
And she can't even go on a dating app without actual males coming in there with their issues trying to destroy their dating scene.
So the real homophobia is coming from this transgender ideology.
And it's not hateful to say that.
It's just reality.
And we need to get back to reality, which is that all these children and young people are fine just as they are.
What are we doing cutting off the body parts of children?
Yeah.
I find this such a, even to hear those words is stomach turning, let alone to see and to know what's going on.
So you agree with me that Danielle Smith is taking a very positive step and I think showing a little bit of courage.
And she's unsurprisingly being attacked, including by Marcy Ian, a federal cabinet minister who for some reason is a transgender activist.
Quite understand that.
But let's move one province further to the west, your own home turf of British Columbia.
It's very interesting to me to see the unity of the parties of the right.
There is now one merged party of the right there, which I think is always a good step forward to winning government.
John Rustad, who is a pretty independent-minded, freedom-oriented guy, I think, you would tell me just before we went, we turned on the cameras that there's some shyness out there about this policy.
Now, I understand BC and Vancouver in particular is progressive on social matters, but I have to believe that for the reasons you and I just talked about and for other reasons, cultural reasons, like a very interesting cultural mix in DC, I would think that a Danielle Smith-style, nuanced, balanced, loving approach would be enormously popular, not just by straight folks,
but by almost everyone other than professional activists.
Like, I just, I just, in my bones, feel that that would be a winner in BC.
Tell me the status of the BC Conservative Party when it comes to this issue.
Sure.
So, I'm a BC boy.
I've lived here my whole life.
45 of my 48 years, I've been here.
And I've had almost the great, the vast majority of my conversations I've had have been out on the streets of Vancouver or in Victoria or wherever.
And I get more than 90% support from the population.
When I go out on the street now, it's constant high fives, thank yous, people thanking me from their car.
This is wildly popular.
My message that children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
There's only a few hundred people who are really these outlandish and very loud activists who make great noise.
And of course, all the leftist media goes along with them.
But we don't need to worry about them.
And the Conservative Party of British Columbia previously has stated that they wanted to get gender ideology out of schools.
They have stated somewhat timidly that they want to stop this child abuse, this medical malpractice of blocking the development of perfectly healthy children.
But they've gone silent about it lately.
And that's been very concerning to me.
And it's concerning because right now in the polls, they're running at about 50-50.
The popular vote right now, according to the polls, is 50-50.
And we go to the polls in 15 days.
We have an election in 15 days.
And if that popular vote remains at 50-50, the conservatives lose because they win by large margins out in the rural areas.
But their vote isn't as efficient because in these inner city areas where there are many more ridings, they'll end up losing by smaller margins.
So what they need to do in the final two weeks is get these swing voters.
And in BC elections, I paid attention to this my whole life.
It's all about the last two weeks of the political campaign.
They need to be strong on this issue.
They need to be strong for parental rights because all of these immigrant communities, all of these swing voters, they are not okay with gender ideology.
The immigrant communities the most are against it.
This is primarily pushed by white progressives, especially young females.
And the people who are into this ideology, they're not going to get their vote anyway.
They're going to vote NDP.
But there are so many swing voters up for grabs.
And even if you want to get more enthusiasm from the Conservatives to get more of that vote out, you need to be strong on this issue, not shy away from it.
So hopefully they get strong on this because they've gone quiet lately.
And I had a couple posts up today on my X account.
And a member of their campaign has actually just reached out to me.
So I'm going to be talking with him right after this phone call.
Well, I think what you just said to me was quite persuasive.
I should tell you, a few years ago, Ontario had a bit of a debate about this.
They talked about the six genders that were put in the curriculum.
And I would be in cabs or Ubers talking on my phones about this with whoever our team.
And every single time, as soon as I was off my phone call, the taxi driver would say, Excuse me, can I ask you about that?
Like I normally leave the taxi drivers alone and vice versa.
But The reason I tell you that is I think people come from other countries to Canada and they're blown away by the freedom and they love the prosperity and they're excited about the new country.
And there's many things that foreign people are delighted to find in Canada that they didn't find at home.
But I find that foreign people, when they come to Canada to become Canadians, one of the things that scares them is they think that on matters of sexuality and certain other matters, drugs, I think would be another one, is that we've gone so far down the progressive road that it's now libertinism.
In BC, I think the national approach to, quote, safe supply drugs is something else that terrifies immigrant newcomers.
And it's one of the things that make them think, well, maybe I shouldn't have come to Canada because what, are my kids going to be on drugs?
Or are they going to be recruited in one of these gay straight alliances and told things contrary to our family values?
So I think, especially in places in BC with a lot of Chinese or Sikh or other immigrant communities, this would be more important than a tax issue.
This would be more important than a zoning issue, than a garbage collection issue.
This would go straight to their deepest fear about the one thing they're worried about in Canada, which is losing their culture and their values about family.
Like, I think this is a terrifying thing for ethnic minorities.
And now, listen, I say that as a fourth generation Canadian, so maybe I'm sounding a little bit like an anthropologist trying to study new Canadians, but I think they're terrified.
What do you think?
There's one continuous protest that's been going on for almost a year now out in Abbotsford, British Columbia, by the Sikh community.
And it's been a protest against gender ideology in schools.
The biggest protest that we had during the million person march, it was called last year, was in Surrey, British Columbia.
And it was by the Sikh community.
They had 3,000 people shut down King George Highway, the major thoroughfare through Surrey, British Columbia.
The Muslim community is all against this, every single one of them.
The Asian community is not okay with it.
So I was just getting in my Uber.
I got back from Europe two days ago.
And as I was getting my Uber at Vancouver Airport, a man came and stopped me and he said, hey, are you that billboard guy?
And yes, it's me.
I asked where he was from.
I meant to ask, you know, whereabouts in Vancouver you're from.
He said, I'm from Afghanistan.
But now he lives in Vancouver.
But of course, he's also in favor of what I'm doing, which is trying to stop this terrible ideology teaching children that they're born wrong.
We don't have to come at this from a complaining standpoint.
Too many people do that.
Movements are much more powerful when you offer positivity and hope.
And the positive message is that our children are beautiful just as they are.
No drugs or scalpels needed.
And everyone understands that.
And there's no right or wrong way to be a girl or a boy.
If you're a little different, that's okay.
You be you.
But let's not stop your physical development and let's not cut off body parts of children.
Let's put a stop to this insane child abuse, which starts by getting gender ideology out of schools.
Yeah.
And you know, I really liked the order of how Danielle Smith went through it.
I like the fact that she ended with something that sports, because that's an easy way for, and again, there's a ton of moms out there, moms and especially, but dads too, whose daughters are in sports.
And I keep telling folks, the era of women's sports is quite recent.
It wasn't even 100 years ago where women were not allowed to participate in many sports.
There's that famous photograph of a woman trying to run in the Boston Marathon.
I don't know if you remember that photo, Chris, and officials breaking in to literally grab her and pull her out.
It has, and we sort of had the golden age of girls in sport.
And now those, now women's sports is the first target.
It's being destroyed by entryists saying, oh, no, I'm a girl.
And everyone's too afraid to say something because they'll be condemned.
They'll be canceled.
They'll be called a bigot.
But also, they don't want to get hurt.
And they don't want to play an unfair game.
So I think that the way Danielle Smith is approaching it is so balanced and so reasonable.
I hope she can withstand the hurricane that's coming at her because as you say, I think it's just an elite group of mainly progressive white women, so to speak.
I've got nothing against them, but that's just who it is.
Balancing Act00:11:00
It's a small clique.
I don't think it represents the majority of Canadians of any demographic.
It doesn't at all.
These are just, you know, very angry and loud activists.
And they've learned through time that the louder they are and the angrier they are, that they get results.
So honestly, it's just kind of acting like an intemperate child and throwing a temper tantrum.
And we need to ignore them.
So just ignore them because you have wide support from the whole population, especially on the sports issue.
This is so simple.
Sometimes with the child transition issue, it requires a bit more of a conversation to explain what's going on.
Sports issue is so easy.
We shouldn't have men and women's sports.
Everyone gets it.
Yeah.
You know, and the premier talked about co-ed sports and how she's going to expand that.
I think that's sort of like there's male bathrooms, there's female bathrooms, and then there's occasionally co-ed or other bathrooms.
What I think she'll find is that not a lot of people join those other or trans leagues, because I think for ideologues, it's about conquering women's places.
You know, I think there's an aggressive human rights law was designed, I think, to be a shield to protect people from discrimination, not a sword to attack people.
And I think one of the reasons why so many people are falling away from a gay rights point of view, like if you look at polls over the last few years, support for gay rights is falling year after year.
And it's not that suddenly people are anti-gay, I don't think.
It's that the gay rights movement is so dominated by trans and people say, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're not looking just to be left alone anymore.
You're not looking to be protected anymore.
It's not a shield anymore.
You're using it as a sword to go after kids, to go after women's places.
And I think what Danielle Smith is actually doing is she's saying to every school, every league in the province, let me make the tough decision for you.
So frankly, you can say, oh, it's out of our hands.
We don't have to.
Like, I think a lot of ordinary people, coaches, managers, referees, they're scared.
So now they can say, well, it's out of my hands.
The Premier decided.
I think that's a great gift the Premier is giving to every sports league in the province.
Yes, it's important she's leading on this issue.
And if we look at other jurisdictions that are ahead of Canada, if we look at Florida, for example, in 2016, I guess it was, or 2018, Ron DeSantis won by thousands of votes over Andrew Gillum.
It was basically 50-50.
The next election, he won by, what was it, 20 points?
There are only a few districts left, a few counties in the entire state of Florida that he's going to be.
I think he even won Miami, if I'm not mistaken, which I don't think Republicans have done in two generations.
That's right.
He won Miami Dade.
He's won this Hispanic communities.
He won these counties that have gone Democrat forever.
And it's because he just tells the truth.
He talks like a parent from the year 2010.
And this is not controversial.
We shouldn't be teaching children gender identity because it's a pseudo-scientific, quasi-religious ideology.
And we shouldn't be teaching them about sexual orientation.
We don't need to be teaching kindergartners queer theory.
Your five-year-old shouldn't be coming home from school thinking maybe that he's a girl.
That's totally nuts.
No parents like that.
And the one way that any of these more conservative parties pick up leftist votes is by telling the truth about this ideology, because so many women, especially on the left, realize that the left has left them.
They're not standing up for women's rights anymore.
We have in British Columbia a man who raped a three-month-old and murdered a toddler, drowned a toddler, who then identified as a woman, was given breast implants for free by the province of British Columbia, and was transferred into the Fraser Valley Penitentiary for women.
So you literally have women who themselves are often the subject of sexual abuse before going into prison.
They're not usually there for violent crimes.
It's usually addiction and things like that, and they've had tough lives.
Now we're sending violent rapists into women's prisons all across Canada.
Women don't like that.
Leftist women don't like that.
So these conservative politicians need to stop being afraid of a really tiny angry mob and just tell the truth about these issues and they'll start winning.
Yeah.
I forgot about that prisons issue.
We've had conferences and done interviews with women in prisons where men claim they're women.
And of course, if you are a sexual predator in prison in a men's prison, you are actually at some likelihood of being attacked by other prisoners.
It's a kind of honor among thieves.
If you're a pedophile in prison, you are actually in danger from the other inmates.
So if you say, well, I'm a girl now, put me in with the women, not only are you protecting yourself from the other convicts, but you've just given yourself access to women.
And I didn't know this until recently.
There are some prisons in Canada where mothers serve their sentence with their young children, which is something I didn't know happened.
It's more like dorm rooms than prisons.
And men are on the same grounds as that.
Imagine letting a child molesting male have access to women and even children by simply saying, I'm a trans, put me where I want to go.
That's a subject for another whole conversation.
Tell me what you're up to in the weeks and months ahead.
Do you have other interesting trips planned?
Don't give away any secrets, but are there things you're looking forward to in the weeks ahead?
Yeah, for sure.
I'm going to be focused mainly on BC up until the election here.
I'll be out on the streets of Vancouver and in Victoria as well.
I'm heading to California later this month.
I'm going to be opening a nonprofit in the United States because I've got big plans for down south.
I actually just spoke at the United Nations before their Human Rights Council last week.
So I think I'm the first person to ever speak at the UN and tell the truth about this subject.
And what was interesting about that was as soon as I finished my speech, I only had 90 seconds.
So I had to distill this whole thing into 90.
But as soon as I finished that speech, I had people in the room saying thank you as I walked out.
Wow.
A man representing one country came to me afterwards.
He didn't even know this was all going on.
Because guess what?
The people working at the UN are still just people.
A lot of them are 30-year-old diplomats who just got out of college six years ago.
And like everywhere else in society, they've just gone along with this TQ lobbying and they're afraid to say anything.
But I met with representative for the Vatican.
I met with the representative for a couple different countries, one in the Middle East, one in Africa.
Other countries wanted to meet, but they didn't have time.
But I'll be going back there in six months and we're going to do a lot more at the United Nations because I've got help from the Alliance Defending Freedom International, which is a legal organization that offers help fighting all this madness all around the world.
And we'll be meeting with many different reps and raising this issue there because even at those levels where this is coming from, this whole comprehensive sex education is coming from the UN.
They're not all on board with it there.
So one conversation at a time, I'm confident we're going to put an end to this.
Well, I hope that I see you with other people sometimes on the ground, and I assume those are people in the local community coming out to support you.
And I think it would be wonderful if you could sort of teach a little army of people the basic arguments, your style, how to handle aggressive questions.
If you could somehow replicate what you're doing with a little army, and maybe you teach like a three-day crash course and how to do it, and you show video highlights of the best and the worst moments you had and give tips for how to handle police who try and shoe you along, how to handle people who are physical with you.
If you had like a crash course weekend course and even some templates for signs, I think there's enough energy out there that you could have a little army that instead of you, and I know you're burning up the air miles, running around, you must be homesick a lot because you're on the road so much.
I don't know.
I'm just sharing, I'm just brainstorming here.
It's none of my business, but I think it would be wonderful if you could somehow increase your firepower.
Yeah, well, I think, you know, one of the main ways I do that is through social media.
So I post some of these conversations and it does help teach people how to handle some of the objections and how to speak about this in a positive manner.
I work with groups like Moms for Liberty down south.
They have 130,000 moms in virtually every state in the country doing grassroots efforts in their own communities.
So I've helped educate them.
I work with a variety of organizations, especially in the United States, because quite simply, we have all these organizations, whereas in Canada, we don't really have any grassroots organizations.
So I try to do it that way, but I love your idea.
I think the workshop for a couple days would be an excellent thing to do.
It's simply a matter of time, and maybe someone can help sponsor that.
Well, that's you know what?
I did all this at my own expense, and I'm losing tens of thousands, and so I can't really put on big events on my own.
Well, we love to crowdfund, as you may know, and we've helped crowdfund for wonderful people across this country.
And we even had a conference through the Democracy Fund that we helped crowdfund for called Women's Spaces in the Age of Transgenderism.
And I learned so much at that conference.
And maybe we could help with that.
I mean, we have our main work to do, but one of the things about Rebel News, Chris, is you know, every once in a while, we don't just talk about the news.
We try and get involved and actually help with things.
So, anyways, I mean, you've got a million things on the go when you're meeting with people at the highest levels.
It's such a pleasure to see.
I saw you.
I follow you on Twitter, of course, and I saw you at the UN and I thought that's pretty cool.
And one of the good guys, I thought, because, you know, there are some folks on the other side there.
Well, let's keep in touch, you and me.
And maybe, I don't know, if we can help you, I'd love to.
You have a lot of support out there, though, already.
So it's wonderful to see.
Thanks for spending some time with us today.
My pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me, Ezra.
All right.
Good to see you.
There you have it.
Billboard Chris Elston, one of the good guys, that's for sure, who had great expense to himself, not just in money, but time.
I mean, his total energy he's deployed to this is enormous.
What a pleasure to catch up with him.
Stay with us.
More ahead.
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Your letters to me.
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This one is about the Democrat Tim Walz in China.
Cat 637 says, all true communists are obliged to visit Chairman Mao as often as possible.
It's in Walls' little red book.
I don't know if that's true, but it is so unusual to visit China 30 times.
And there's just no way that he wasn't at least a useful idiot in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.
Xi Van Fleet suggests he was more than just a useful idiot.
He was a true believer who was eager to go along with it.
And I think there's some truth to that.
The fact that he scheduled his wedding for the anniversary of Chanamin Square so he could remember it.
I really think that would be like choosing 9-11 as your wedding day so you could remember it, but it's an awful day of death and sorrow and humiliation and setback and pain.
Why would you associate any of those negative things with your wedding, which is a happy day of hope and the future and love, unless you thought the day itself was a happy day?
So I'm sure there are some jihadists who get married on 9-11.
If you really planned your wedding around the Channel Square massacre, that suggests to me that you sort of like that day.
That's creepy.
Bob Crohn says he's learned to be like Kamala and talk forever and never answer the question.
You're so right.
Kamala Harris says very little.
She does say some things, like when she talks about the future unburdened by the past, that has a communist flavor to it.
You know who's the absolute worst of that in the whole world?
In the whole world?
Christia Freeland.
And the media party, the press gallery, the regime reporters, they let her get away with it.
But if she is ever the leader of the Liberal Party, that will not sail.
I mean, she is just, it's such an abusive way of talking.
It's a form of gaslighting in itself.
On the coming October 7th anniversary, Corin Sauvé says, Ezra, you were always so on the mark.
You were correct in saying that nobody listens to Canada anymore.
It was just proven with Trudeau speaking to an almost empty room at the UN.
And Jolie, also at the UN, what a complete and utter disgrace for all of us.
This government has to be stopped and leave.
I mean, look, Canada is a middle-sized country, a middle-sized economy.
Unfortunately, we're no longer a middle power.
I think we used to have some international cachet.
I think people respected Canada because we did things historically.
We punched above our weight, as the saying goes.
That hasn't been true in a long time.
I'm not a big fan of peacekeeping.
I don't think it really meant a lot.
I suppose it was a symbol.
And Canada, that was something we were sort of proud of.
But we haven't done that.
We don't have the equipment.
We've demoralized our troops.
And I think that's deliberate.
You know, I think, I literally think we have sent precisely one tank to Ukraine.
Now, put aside whether we should send weapons and money to Ukraine.
I'm not talking about that.
All of Trudeau's talk, we just don't have working equipment.
And remember when Bill Blair bragged about training F-16 pilots in Canada?
That's got to be a lie because we don't have F-16s.
We have very old F-18s.
I'm not sure how many of them even work.
And we can't fly alongside NATO because, you know, the F-35s, the F-22s, a whole generation newer.
You can't really fly an F-18, an old-fashioned F-18 alongside an F-35.
I'm laughing, but it's not funny at all.
It's very sad.
That's why I had a little bit of hope when Aaron Gunn showed us his documentary.
I thought, boy, if Aaron Gunn can be elected, and I think he's got a good chance of being elected.
I think he would have a good chance of making it in Pierre Polyev's cabinet.
Aaron is such a good communicator.
For that alone, I hope he would be.
I didn't know he had served in the Canadian Armed Forces before.
I just, I'm clinging to hope here, people.
I'm clinging to hope that however dark things are now, they'll get brighter.
You know, they say it's always darkest before the dawn.
Well, that's the show for today.
Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rubber World Headquarters, see you at home.