Sheila Gunn Reid and Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) argue 60%+ of Canadians oppose Justin Trudeau’s 2035 fossil-fuel vehicle ban, citing $10–$15B nuclear plants and BC’s stalled dam projects as proof of insufficient energy infrastructure. They warn of potential repair restrictions and higher costs for food due to grid strain, framing the mandate as federal overreach. Reid highlights Alberta’s Bill of Rights amendments to protect property rights, including vehicles and firearms, against Trudeau’s policies, while Sims contrasts JD Vance’s pro-energy U.S. debate stance with Canada’s anti-oil agenda. The episode underscores public resistance to costly mandates and questions government accountability, linking energy costs to broader economic and political distrust. [Automatically generated summary]
Justin Trudeau wants us all to be in electric cars.
He never asked us what we think, but somebody did.
i'm sheila gun reid and you're watching the gun show justin trudeau's government has banned the sale of fossil-fueled vehicles by 2035 Do you want to drive an electric car?
I know I don't.
I wouldn't mind being able to get to town in the wintertime for groceries if anybody can afford groceries in the year 2035 or fueling up a vehicle in 2035 or for that matter, surviving the winter in 2035 if the liberals remain in charge with their radical green energy policies, which continue to make life too expensive in this country.
Now, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation actually asked Canadians what they think about this push to put us all in these green abominations they call vehicles.
And guess what?
We didn't like them.
So joining me now to discuss the findings of the leger poll commissioned by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and more, including last night's vice presidential debate is my friend Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
Take a listen.
I wanted to have you on, Chris, because we frequently talk about energy affordability as Albertons here.
And I know you focus a lot on this and how climate policies just make your life so much more expensive.
And there are all these sorts of pernicious little ways that these expensive climate policies are foisted upon an unwilling and unable to bear the burden taxpayer.
So we talk a lot about the carbon tax, but that's just not the only way.
One of the other ways is this push to get us all into these vehicles that don't work in our environment.
And I'm talking about electric cars.
Now, we know that the federal government has accelerated the push for electric cars.
They want us all in them.
I think it's by 2035.
And they're doing this through expensive subsidies.
Thankfully, the uptake on the subsidies is low for the taxpayers.
But nobody ever asked us what we want, what we want with these things.
So the Canadian Taxpayers Federation actually did that.
You asked the Canadian public, the government is going to do this to you.
Do you even want these things?
Tell us what you found out.
Yeah, for sure.
So here at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we've noticed a pattern.
Same thing as you brought up, right?
Where it's always twofold.
So to give you an example, the Trudeau government isn't just paying off the mainstream media with hundreds of millions of your dollars, plus the $1.4 billion for the CBC.
No, no, my friend.
They're also trying to monitor and restrict your free expression online.
So it's always the vice.
It's always two sides.
And so with this one, again, here's the two sides.
Yeah, they're trying to crush you with the carbon tax to make regular energy unaffordable when you have nowhere else to go, which is a huge financial punishment.
But on the other side of the vice, they're banning normal vehicles.
So they're going to ban, the Trudeau government is going to ban the sale of new gasoline, diesel, and hybrid vehicles.
I will point this out.
I did not know that.
So anybody bought a hybrid vehicle because they were trying to get around this nonsense while still having a vehicle that might work, they're going to get hit with this too.
Yes.
So they only want, for some reason, they've decided they only want battery-powered cars in Canada.
Period.
So if you've got gasoline, diesel, or some hybrids, some hybrids are getting in under the ban.
Some are not.
You'd have to go read the regs on it.
But the main takeaway is the normal vehicles that millions of us buy and we depend on every single year and choose to go purchase are soon going to be banned in Canada.
They'll be illegal.
And folks who are watching, if they think 2035 is way far in the future, that is about 10 years from now.
Yeah, that's a low term.
Thank you.
Because I was just about to say, that's about how long Prime Minister Stephen Harper has been gone from office for.
So if you remember that day clearly, that's how soon these gasoline and diesel powered new vehicle sales are going to be outlawed in Canada.
Now, this is a problem for many reasons.
One, people should be able to purchase the vehicle they want to because, you know, we're growing adults.
Two, we don't have the energy for this.
We cannot make them go.
We don't have enough juice in Canada to make these battery vehicles go vroom vroom.
Three, we can't afford the price tag that this is going to cost to build the new power plants, power lines, infrastructure, and charging stations for this thing.
So all that understood, this is what's key here, Sheila.
Very few people have realized this yet of just how stark this ban will be.
But still, when the Taxpayers Federation, we hired a very reputable polling firm, Leger, okay?
It is a national polling firm.
This just wasn't something that we asked on Twitter from our supporters.
I didn't do a quick straw poll.
No, this is a national polling firm.
Leger asks, are you in favor of this vehicle ban?
Are you in favor of the electric vehicle forced mandate?
When you remove the undecideds, so those who actually have made up their minds, more than 60% of Canadians are saying no.
And I would argue that's with very little information.
Like mainstream media isn't covering this super hot and heavy.
You're not hearing this in the House of Commons very much.
You have to be a super intuit political nerd to know this is coming down the pipe, or you have to be in the vehicle industry.
Try to be a car salesperson, right?
So even with all that understood, if you take away the undecideds for those who've made up their mind, yeah, more than 60% of Canadians are saying, no, we don't want you to ban these vehicles.
Right.
And for those people out there who say, well, I don't have a car.
I, you know, pull in an old Christopher Freeland.
I don't drive.
Surely.
Nobody has a chauffeur.
Somebody drives.
But even if you say, like, I don't drive, I take public transit.
I live next door to my work and my school and my grocery store.
I'm in my 15-minute city, if you will.
Even if, even if all that is true, what do you think the increased demand for electricity when we haven't ramped up the grid is going to do to the cost of running your fridge and turning a light on?
Exactly.
This has a knock-on effect all the way through the economy, and it will make everything that relies on electricity more expensive, including food.
Yeah.
So anybody notice that when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau cranks up the carbon tax, everything gets more expensive?
Weird.
Yeah, that's because when you increase the cost of energy, however you do it, in this case, the government's doing it through taxation, when you increase the cost of baseline energy, you make almost everything more expensive because it takes energy to make stuff.
It takes energy to grow stuff, to truck stuff.
and to get yourself to the grocery store to buy it.
Even the stores themselves, of course, need energy.
They have the lights on.
It's not coming from unicorn dust.
Quite often here in Alberta, it's coming from natural gas.
You carbon tax natural gas up the wazoo?
Guess what?
You're going to have higher costs of everything.
Same goes for diesel.
Same goes for gasoline.
And now if you're looking at this electric vehicle mandate, okay, just imagine we're in the future, okay?
In 10 years time, okay, picture, just for argument's sake, picture all of our vehicles needing to be electric on day one.
So we know, of course, there'll be some people hanging on to their gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles.
They'll be phased in, blah, blah.
What that will do to the cost of the pump and how those fueling stations will stay open, all those gas stations, I don't know.
But anytime the government gets involved with things, it's usually a financial disaster.
But let's just, for the sake of argument, say that, you know, midnight, 2025, 10 years from now, we all have electric vehicles.
In Alberta alone, Sheila, we would need three new big nuclear plants just for the cars.
Just for the cars.
I'm not talking about long-haul trucking.
In British Columbia, there's a really smart dude.
He's a scientist, Blair King in British Columbia.
He did the calculation a couple of years back.
In British Columbia, just for the vehicles, not for industry, they would need nine new site-C dams.
Folks, one of those big nuclear power plants, of which we would need three here in Alberta, that costs between $10 and $15 billion in today money.
Not 10 years from now money, today money.
And they take around 10 years to build.
So we do not have the money for this.
Well, and the more I think about this, you know, like you mentioned, a vice on both sides, Rushing in.
If I had to guess, they will bring down a vice on the top too, in that they would probably outlaw or grandfather out the sale of parts for gas and diesel-powered vehicles because they've got to force you off the thing that you can continue to tinker with as long as you possibly can to avoid buying a vehicle that doesn't work in our climate.
And that's what I think.
I think that's the next thing that's coming to shoehorn people into this thing that they don't want is to take away your ability to continue to repair the thing that you love and that you need and that works.
And on top of that, so let's just play government monopoly here.
What happens if you want to go to the States and buy a normal vehicle, say in Montana?
Are they going to let you bring that across the border?
Do you really think so?
No, they'll probably set up some gigantic wasteful government agency in order to stop you at the border.
Look, we couldn't even get people back across their own border into their own country during the lockdowns without them wasting millions and millions of dollars on the ArriveCan app, which also didn't work.
So just imagine what it'll be for something like vehicle importation.
How they are going to swing this, by the way, with the auto pact agreements that we have with the United States, like I'm going to leave that up to Dr. Jay Goldberg.
He's our Ontario director.
But for those of us out west, if you haven't lived in Ontario or that Quebec Windsor corridor, you may not realize what a big deal the agreement is for auto manufacturing between Canada and the United States.
Like it is like, it's what makes stuff happen and go there.
So how we are going to be able to fly with this vehicle ban starting in 2035 here when they may not have one in the States, that's just another humongous headache.
Also, they could start coming after people for insurance.
They could go after used car sales, you know, but as of right now, it's just the ban of new vehicles, which I think is bad enough.
Now, I want to ask you about, and we didn't talk about this before, but the Alberta Bill of Rights, the three key amendments coming to the Alberta Bill of Rights.
And I know that you, I know you personally care deeply about some of the things that are mentioned in this, but I'm not going to ask you about that.
I want to ask you, I know, because you're here as a representative of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
So I want to keep it on track there, even though there are other things that you and I would probably be excited about and complain as far as civil liberties go.
But I wanted to talk to you about some of the stuff that has been a key driver of the issues of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
And the updated Alberta Bill of Rights that's coming along is the right of individuals to legally acquire, safely use, and here's the Canadian Taxpayers wheelhouse, keep firearms.
And so I know that the Taxpayers Federation looks at this through a government accountability, smaller government, quit wasting our money sort of lens.
And we have talked at length on the show here about just the sheer cost of Justin Trudeau's gun ban and his confiscation program.
He can't thankfully figure out.
I think this is great news and it's going to save the government millions and millions of dollars if Danielle Smith, to use the worst pun ever, sticks to her guns and lets us keep ours.
Natural.
You float into that.
Yeah, no, that was very good.
So briefly on the other elements you were talking about, in particular, I just wanted to be really clear, the Taxpayers Federation, we came out pretty strongly against the so-called vax tax.
I don't remember, don't know if people remember that, but that was in the really kind of yucky days of say January 2022, if I'm recalling that correctly, you know, Christmastime 2021.
That's back when the Quebec government was actually floating the idea of creating a brand new tax to go after people.
And so we wrote a national op-ed against that, Franco Terrazano and I, saying, no, how about no?
None of that.
We also were opposed to the Emergencies Act invocation because of course, if you suspend our civil liberties, pretty tough to hold the government to account.
So that was totally uncool.
Also, freezing the bank accounts of people who protest you and disagree with you, that's also not okay because our three pillars at the Taxpayers Federation are lower taxes, less waste, more accountable government.
And if you're scared the government's going to freeze your bank account if you pipe up, that is terrible.
So we were really happy to see, for example, the Canadian Constitution Foundation and one of our former colleagues, Christine Van Guy, brilliant constitutional lawyer, they won that case at the federal court level.
So we were super happy to see that.
So, you know, we touched on that as best we could, but we got to stick to our mandate here.
Property Rights and Safety00:04:06
To your point on firearms, yeah, this is big overreach by the government and it's going to cost a heck of a ton of money for what?
How do we actually make people safer when you're getting the police to go after and seize the property of law-abiding firearms owners?
And so, we actually interviewed one of the head of the police unions here in Canada, and it was them that said, no, this won't make people safer.
What will make people safer is to stop the illegal importation of illegal guns across the border.
Don't go after the ranchers and the farmers and the people who own firearms legally in Canada.
That was them.
And so, we also can turn back in our own history as an organization to the long gun registry.
And we were pushing, yeah, we were pushing back hard against that.
And back then, I think the then liberal government were guesstimating, oh, the long gun registry will cost around $2 million.
After all the smoke cleared, no pun intended, it was about $2 billion.
So, we were super happy to see a few things coming from the Smith government, even before this Bill of Rights update.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure she instructed through her justice minister to let the police know, yeah, don't waste your resources going door to door to people's homes.
That's not what we want you to do here in Alberta.
Very good.
Our chief firearms officer, really knowledgeable on firearms, really digging in her heels on this and saying no to the Trudeau government.
So, super happy to see that.
Now, with this update, this will just give, and if it goes through and everything's tickety-boo and it looks good, this should give the province of Alberta another arrow in the quiver when it comes to fighting back against Ottawa, especially in court, for them to be able to say, you know what, this violates our provincial Bill of Rights for you to have the feds coming in here seizing lawful property.
That could apply to firearms.
But get this, I don't know if I mentioned it to you when we were hanging out last week, and you also gave me that jar of pickles.
Not that I'm rubbing it into any of the other guests.
This, I got this confirmation from the Premier's office.
They haven't worked out the details yet, but this can also apply to vehicles.
I said, so a vehicle is private property.
I own it.
It's in my driveway on my property.
Couldn't you apply this new updated Bill of Rights to saying no to the vehicle ban that the Trudeau government's trying to push through?
Yes, they will, and yes, they can.
So, we were pretty happy with big elements coming from this updated Bill of Rights, especially with the property stuff.
Yeah, one of the three key changes is the right not to be deprived of property without legal due process and just compensation.
So, that's wonderful.
We're embedding property rights that we don't have at the federal level into the Alberta Bill of Rights.
We continue to be the bastion of freedom in this country.
And you know what?
I'm so glad you moved here.
I bet you are too.
Got a few calls.
They weren't in the middle of the night, but they were a little panicked.
So, I'm really glad that I've moved here to Alberta.
And again, this is good for everybody.
Having smaller, more accountable government is good for freedom.
It's good for liberty.
And you know what?
It's good for taxpayers because it usually winds up with people saving hundreds of millions of dollars because they're not overpaying a whole bunch of bureaucrats they don't need kicking around.
And they also don't get into major fights with the government all the time because the government is smaller and more accountable.
Again, which always costs taxpayers money.
The government doesn't have its own money to fight their own people in court or to fight lobby groups in court.
But if they actually stick to their lane and they're small and accountable and they're managing to keep their budgets balanced and all that good stuff, there's just far less cost to taxpayers.
So this is good news.
We really hope that these parts of these elements go through and that they're functional and that it winds up with good court rulings.
Reagan's Legacy Debate00:04:13
Now, I'm going to ask you about the vice presidential debate we occurred last night.
I thought it was an absolute axe murdering.
Call the cops.
JD Vance committed a murder.
Now, I don't know how much you can talk about this in your role as the Alberta director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, but I think there were some small government ideas proposed yesterday.
And I think also as an Albertan, to see the pro-energy stance of JD Vance versus the anti-oil and gas government administration that they have right now, which will be continued under Kamala Harris.
That's, I said it yesterday during our debate coverage.
That's really my interest in all of this is can Alberta have a reliable customer in the United States for our oil and gas?
Will they let us build them a pipeline?
Will they let these nice people from above them sell them some quality oil instead of conflict oil?
That's really one of the reasons that I would love to see a Republican administration there besides all the other reasons.
But what did you think of the debate?
I guess I'll shut up.
What did you think of the debate?
Jing too.
And because, you know, I can't not.
I'm a total political nerd.
I just top line impression, taking off my CTF hat and just putting my full political nerd hat on.
I have not seen that good of a performance from a candidate since Reagan versus Mondale.
Yes.
So people probably remember there's a wonderful warm moment where U.S. President Ronald Reagan, God rest his soul, is up there and they depict this in the movie as well, because it was such a line.
He's up there on the debate stage and one of, and he's up against Mondale, who's younger than him.
And one of the commentators says something to the effect of, you know, don't you think you're too old for this?
This kind of the tea up.
And Reagan, I can't do him justice, so I will just butcher it and paraphrase, says something to the effect of, no, I will not use my opponent's youth and inexperience against him.
And it was so funny that Mondale cracked up laughing, like earnestly, genuinely laughing.
And he knew his goose was cooked.
He knew that Reagan won the debate.
So there were a couple of moments that weren't as funny, but there were a couple of moments there where you could just see JD Vance was lapping the track.
And there is a moment even where he kind of is looking like this and he breaks fourth wall and he looks back over.
That was a lot of confidence.
As far as Paul's brilliant debate performance, I think it was really one-sided.
Although I will say, it was really nice just as a human being to see those two men interacting with each other, saying, you know what, I agree there, or here's where we disagree, or my friend on the other side.
That tone was largely congenial, which is what they used to be.
You know what I think, though?
I think, sorry to interrupt.
I think JD Vance brought that to the debate.
He did.
Because I think that Tim Walz was ready for some sort of gruesome, scrappy fight.
And that was evident in his opening statement.
You can see the tone immediately shift after JD Vance's opening statement.
And Tim Walz is like, shoot, dang, I shouldn't have done that.
And then he had to sort of rein it back in.
He realized he wasn't going to get a bunch of personal attacks from JD Vance.
He would get attacks on policy and on history of the last administration of which Kamala Harris continues.
He wasn't going to get the sort of insults that he was expecting.
And he had to sort of re-center his debate performance after that.
You could tell he was completely caught off guard.
He was discombobulated for sure having to do that.
And I would give this advice to anyone who's going into a really intense interview or a debate or something like that.
Emissions and Energy Policy00:07:49
Meet people where they are.
Try to match their tone.
Don't come in like a bull in a china shop and really listen to people.
There was a moment, and again, this got nothing to do with CTF.
And I would just say this as a human being, and I would say this of any party, of any candidate.
There was a moment where Walls mentioned that his son had witnessed a terrible act of violence.
And then he went on talking.
He went on talking for about three or four minutes after that.
And what I found really interesting is that Mr. Vance stopped what he was doing when he answered and said, you know what?
I didn't know that happened to your son.
And I'm really sorry that occurred.
It was a real human moment there.
And so I would just encourage people in this political arena that we're in all the time, don't forget that stuff.
It's super important.
As far as the energy goes and policy goes, it's something that I've been harping on.
So before I moved to Alberta, I lived in British Columbia where I was born and raised.
And that's where the carbon tax started back in 2008.
Then BC Liberal Premier Gordon Campbell thought it was a super awesome idea.
It was not.
He was in friends with then governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who thought it was a great idea.
Again, it was not.
So that's where this started.
So it then morphed into this really vitriolic fight over the carbon tax for a long time.
There were times where I would go on mainstream radio to say, you know what?
It's not fair to punish people for driving their minivans and heating their homes and eating food.
And I was called a monster.
I was blamed for litton burning down.
Like these are from grown adults.
This isn't from somebody calling in.
This is from political types.
And then this is, I do not use this term.
I'm quoting it called climate change denier, which is a disgusting term.
Right.
And anybody who's called it, I think, should push back on that because we all know where that origin comes from.
It's gross.
So I've been trying to say, listen, folks, please hear me out.
If you really care about global emissions, global emissions, fight where the dirty fuels are.
Fight where the large populations are.
Okay.
Why are we punishing people for driving a minivan or a pickup truck and eating and heating here in Canada when it doesn't make a dent in global emissions?
Exactly.
Why?
Sell them natural gas.
Sell clean burning natural gas to India.
Or in the United States case, I could be wrong on this, but I think the numbers do bear it out.
I believe when U.S. President Donald Trump was in power, I think their emissions went down because he switched it.
Did they?
Fracking in natural gas.
It was fracking.
So it was the fracking renaissance in Pennsylvania and Ohio that drove emissions down because they were unleashing this cheap, clean, burning, reliable natural gas.
So under Trump, more oil and gas, lower emissions, better economy.
See?
And so this can work.
This can work.
We do not have to go with this weird myopic one track thinking of just increase the carbon tax, it will stop.
No, it won't.
And it's not.
In fact, in British Columbia, like I said, they've had a carbon tax there and now they have two.
They've had a carbon tax there since 2008.
They were supposed to reduce their emissions by 2019, 2020 by more than 30% from 2008 standards.
Any guesses if they hit that target?
No, they sure didn't.
In fact, I think by 2019, they were up by 3%.
So like it's not working.
This is not working.
And so I was on that point exactly, Sheila.
I was watching along with you.
I was really happy to hear that language coming from Mr. Vance.
Right.
And, you know, understanding where people are coming from on the on the environment, totally getting it, and then saying, let's do something smarter.
And then tying it back to affordability, tying it back to why we need affordable energy, because then all boats rise, including those of working class families and those who are struggling.
Yeah, for me, I thought that was a really, really clever thing that happened.
Very, I think it was one of the first questions of the debate.
And you could tell Walls was trying to goad JD Vance into an abate, a debate on the science of climate change.
And he just said, I'm not even going to talk about the science.
Whether you believe in the science is settled or whatever, regardless, if you care about emissions, then you have to repatriate American manufacturing.
You have to encourage the development of American fossil fuels as some of the cleanest.
I would take credit for being the cleanest, but as some of the cleanest on the planet.
So if, so that's an argument I think that everybody, no matter where they stand on the issue, can get behind.
And as you say, the result is affordability in American jobs.
What's the problem?
And it's just not something the Democrats have been have been behind for some reason.
I could talk to you all day.
One little thing.
Okay, please do.
Sorry.
I was also really happy to hear, I won't get choked up.
I was really happy to hear a candidate talk about how he grew up.
Yeah, me too.
And he talked about how he grew up in a way that a lot of Taxpayers Federation supporters can relate to.
Yep.
So we get hundreds of emails all the time from people who are trying to afford their heat bill, who are wincing this coming winter.
And to hear JD Vance say something to the effect of, I remember when my Mima couldn't afford home heating.
And that's wrong.
That's wrong.
We should have affordable energy in this country.
And for him to speak for the working class in that way is really, really strong.
And I read, I would encourage everybody to read his book.
It's called Hillbilly Elegy.
It's a really easy read.
It's basically his own, like he said, an elegy.
It's his own way he grew up.
He did not expect it to take off the way it did.
And he talks about what it's like to grow up working class or struggling in North America to be part of the flyover America or the Rust Belt.
And I know a lot of Canadians, especially those who, those of us who've worked in the energy sector as families, boy, we can relate to that.
When I first moved to Ottawa in my early 20s was the first time I can remember eating real cheese because I was raised largely from what I remember on cheese whiz and slices, which is fine.
If you choose to eat that, that's totally fine.
But it's such a cultural difference that unless you've lived it, you don't know it.
And so to have that voiced on a national stage was pretty important.
And to have him tying it back to it is our responsibility to make sure things like energy, something as fundamental as energy is affordable for all people, that really spoke volumes.
And I think it does here in Canada, especially with the carbon tax and our coming winter.
I remember vividly my first store-bought egg.
I know it's just a stupid thing to remember, but I remember my very first store-bought egg and I was in my 20s.
Right?
Yeah, right?
But, you know, or new clothes, store-bought, store-bought new clothes, like brand new, new to you clothes, fancy clothes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like in a real department store.
Yeah.
Balancing Act00:05:07
As I said to David Menzies on the show last night, Trump is very, whether you like Trump or not, he's really good at balancing out the criticisms of him with a good VP pick.
So in 2020 or sorry, in 2016, you know, a lot of social conservatives are like, I'm not sure Trump's a conservative.
Look at him on his social issues.
He's got some moral failings.
So who does he get?
Mike Pence, who is like so squeaky clean, it like it's almost annoying.
And then the more recent criticisms are like, what could possibly this billionaire know about the struggling working middle class?
Well, then he just grabs JD Vance, who addresses all those issues.
So he's really good at balancing his personality with his VP pick.
And whether you like Trump or not, I think he does that brilliantly.
Chris, how do people get involved in the work that the CTF does?
Because not only do you not take government money, but you also don't even take preferential tax treatment from the government to do the work that you do.
Yeah, we won't even give you a tax receipt.
That's how hardcore we are.
So if you want to sign up and support the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, you can go to taxpayer.com.
You can make a donation if you choose to, but it's totally optional.
What's really great about the Taxpayers Federation is that we have a huge army of tax fighters on all sorts of issues.
And so in order to get that ball rolling and become part of this real fellowship, it really is because we respond to the emails all the time ourselves.
Myself, frankly, all of our team.
So sign a petition that speaks to you.
So if you want to scrap the carbon tax, if you want to defund the CBC, if you want to stop the gun grab, yes, yes, yes.
If you want to stop PST collection in British Columbia from thrift shops, I might have written that one myself.
Sign up because the next time that we have action on something like that or big stuff too, like capital gains tax fights, no home equity tax, like we're talking billions of dollars here potentially.
Right.
Sign up to those petitions.
And the next time we're taking action and pushing a politician to do the right thing, you'll be part of the army.
You'll be part of that email chain and you can help us push back.
So head over to taxpayer.com.
Great.
Chris, thanks so much for coming on the show.
I know I sprung it on you short notice, but we always have stuff to talk about, whether on air or off.
So you are also speaking at Rebel News Live this Saturday in Calgary.
So I get to see Chris a lot over the last like two weeks, 10 days, which is really exciting.
But if you'd like to come and see Chris speak about, I don't know what you're speaking about.
I bet you're going to be prickly with the government funding of the media if I had to guess.
You can go to rebelnewslive.com to get your tickets.
And Chris is always a fan favorite.
So thanks so much, Chris, and we'll see you Saturday.
You bet.
Thank you.
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So today's letter comes to me about last week's show.
It's from Mike Stewart.
And it says, hey, Sheila, love your work and Ezra and Alexa.
Thanks so much for all you do.
I was interviewing Alexa last week, Alexa Lavoire, Quebec-based journalist, on her buttonholing of Jacinda R. Dern, the former prime minister of New Zealand, when she came to Canada to meet with a bunch of progressives here and shove her bad ideas down our throats because they've been so resoundedly rejected by New Zealand voters.
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Thanks so much for all you do.
No Confidence Attachments00:03:04
Would love to hear your thoughts on the no confidence vote.
Okay, let's start there.
No confidence vote.
So I guess maybe I'll give a little bit of a civics lesson.
So the government can fall on a confidence vote.
Now, you don't vote to say, I have no confidence in the government.
That's not how it works.
You can attach confidence to a vote.
And if the government loses that vote, then the government falls on confidence and then you go to election.
And it can be on a number of different things.
It can be on passing the budget.
That can be, well, that is a confidence issue.
So if the government fails to pass the budget, then clearly you've lost confidence in the government.
It'll fall.
You go to election.
What the Conservatives are doing right now is they're trying to attach a confidence issue to just about anything.
And really, it's to try to catch the Liberals off guard because all the Liberals have to be in the House to pass that vote.
They have to make sure they have the support of the NDP and the bloc to make sure the vote passes.
So that's why the Conservatives are working so hard to try to attach confidence motions to the most rudimentary of issues.
I remember a couple of years ago, the government almost fell on a confidence vote because the Conservatives last minute attached confidence to something that the Liberals didn't think that they would.
There were almost no liberals in the House of Commons at the time, and they all had to rush back to vote to make sure the government didn't fall.
So I don't know.
It's something that happens in our parliamentary system.
However, I think not only are the Liberals going to do everything that they can to make sure that the government doesn't fall, because whether they go to election in six weeks from now or a year and six weeks from now, they are going to lose catastrophically.
And so the Liberals would like to hang on to power as long as possible.
And a lot of them need to qualify for a pension.
And so they moved the fixed election date so that many of them could qualify for a pension.
And they did that with the full support of the NDP because their leader, Jagmeet Seng, needed the election date to move so that he could qualify for a pension.
So do you think that Jagmeet Seng is going to break ranks with the liberals to go to an election that his party is definitely going to lose.
He probably won't be the leader after they lose that election and he's not going to get his pension.
I am not confident.
Jagmeet Seng's Pension Puzzle00:01:43
Mike goes on to say, I've heard a lot of ads on other podcasts for things like the Wellness Company where you can get emergency meds such as ivermectin in case of another pandemic.
Do we have anything like that in Canada that you know of, I cannot give you medical advice?
I have ideas about where you can get prophylactic ivermectin.
A veterinary grade.
Although it doesn't matter, it's dosage by weight, right?
I know the wellness company sells a whole host of supplements.
And some of our sponsors on the live stream also sell prophylactic medications for other issues as well.
I'd love to give you more information.
I just don't think that I can, if you know what I mean, Mike.
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