Danielle Smith, Alberta’s Premier, blasts Canada’s immigration surge—now over 2 million annually—citing housing shortages, 750,000 temporary foreign workers, and 1M+ student visas (only a third in accredited universities) fueling youth unemployment (350K aged 15–24). She demands Harper-era policies, while Mark Miller’s "overheated" admissions and forced relocations (e.g., 28K asylum seekers in Alberta) expose federal-provincial tensions. Quebec’s cultural screening contrasts with unchecked intake, and global examples like Ireland’s Dundrum (200 locals vs. 280 military-aged migrants) or Marseille’s 40% Muslim divisions highlight integration failures. With Trudeau clinging to power via NDP confidence votes and Poilievre’s cautious Conservatives, Alberta’s push signals a broader revolt against immigration-driven strain on services and social cohesion. [Automatically generated summary]
Premier Of Alberta Attacks Mass Immigration00:02:00
Hello, my friends.
An incredible statement yesterday by Danielle Smith, the Premier of Alberta, coming out guns blazing against mass immigration.
Very interesting, and she managed to communicate it in a very gentle and persuasive and loving way, if I can use that word.
I'll show you the video, and then Lauren Gunter and I are going to go through the response to that video from Mark Miller, Trudeau's mass immigration pusher, I guess you could call him.
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Here's today's podcast.
Tonight, finally, a concerted opposition to mass immigration.
Not from our federal opposition leader, though, from the province of Alberta.
It's September 18th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Well, immigration is a federal issue under the Constitution, the separation of powers, but more and more provinces want to say, especially Quebec, which likes to choose its own immigrants for linguistic and cultural reasons, But Justin Trudeau has gone absolutely bonkers in the last few years with immigration.
Parallel Immigration System00:14:09
The numbers are, frankly, they're quadrupled.
I was astounded when I first heard that there were more than 2 million people brought to Canada last year.
2 million.
You might say, well, that's not true.
Ezra, there's only half a million immigrants.
Well, that's what they call people who apply to be, you know, to immigrate to Canada doesn't include the more than 1 million people on a student visa.
And we learned that only a third of them are in accredited universities.
Doesn't include the 750,000 temporary foreign workers.
So if you add it all up, and then there's the hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers, 2 million people were brought into this country.
And you can feel it on the street of any large or even medium-sized city.
It's absolutely astonishing.
Even more crazy is when you see where the so-called asylum seekers or refugees are from.
The number one source of refugees, if I'm not mistaken, is India.
Yeah, the world's largest democracy that is at peace.
There's no civil war in India.
It wouldn't be my first choice of a place to live, but it's a fine country.
It's rapidly developing.
There are multi-party democracies.
There's a fairly vigorous opposition and a vigorous press.
Why would the number one source of refugees be from India?
Mexico's on that list too.
Yeah, there are some parts of Mexico where there's a bit of a crime problem.
I don't deny that one bit.
But again, Mexico is not a civil rights crisis.
If you're coming from Mexico saying you're seeking refugee status, you are most likely a liar and an advantage taker.
And I think as much as anything, it's that bogus nature, the obvious fraud of these fake refugees that poisons people against immigration.
Of course, the raw numbers have something to do with it too.
And so it was very interesting to me that Danielle Smith, the Premier of Alberta, who has largely been silent on matters of immigration, she weighed in in a big way the other day with a televised address to Albertans.
Let me play for you a couple of minutes of a clip from her, and then we'll bring in our friend Lauren Gunter, the senior columnist from the Emazzon Sun, to talk about it.
This is quite a bold statement.
I'll let you hear it directly.
Take a listen.
Now, Alberta has always welcomed newcomers who possess our shared values, and we will continue to do so.
Welcoming those who believe in working hard, protecting our freedoms, contributing to society, following the rule of law, and who have a deep respect for other cultures and faiths different from their own have long been a strength of our provincial culture and history.
Equally as important, though, Canada's previous immigration policies under leaders like Prime Minister Stephen Harper, as an example, focused on ensuring that immigration levels matched our nation's economic needs and was commensurate with our ability to build enough houses and infrastructure to keep up with that growth.
However, the Trudeau government's unrestrained open border policies, permitting well over a million newcomers each year into Canada, is causing significant challenges and has broken this delicate balance.
These historically high immigration levels, especially as it relates to those with temporary visas, is exacerbating shortages in housing, job opportunities for young people, as well as health, education, and other social services infrastructure in a manner that is a severe challenge for all provinces to keep up with, including our own.
This drives up the cost of living and strains public services for everyone, new Albertans, lifelong Albertans, and everyone in between.
So I am joining with other premiers across our country in calling on the current federal government to immediately reintroduce sensible and restrained immigration policies, similar to levels we saw under Stephen Harper, so that all provinces have some time and resources to sustainably catch up with growth and to ensure those coming here closely align with our country's economic needs and our core values.
And if the current federal government won't make these changes, our government will certainly support a new one that will.
There you have it.
Danielle Smith in her televised provincial address last night, joining us now to talk about it.
And the reaction by the federal immigration minister, Mark Miller, to it is our friend Lauren Gunter.
Lauren, what do you think of that?
That's quite a strong statement for a premier who I think has avoided foreign affairs immigration issues pretty assiduously.
What do you think?
Well, and I think that her libertarian background made her less open or less vigilant about this issue that, you know, there should be free movement of people across borders with within limits and with an idea to national security and all that sort of thing.
And so she has only lately come to the realization of what the federal government has done.
But better late than never.
I mean, I think that's a very good statement on her part.
That is an excellent summation of what the feds have done.
And as you said in the lead-in, we're now looking at most years north of 2 million people getting into Canada one way or another.
And okay, so some of them are temporary foreign workers, some of them are foreign students, some of them are visitors.
If those people all went home when their visas expired, this wouldn't be as big an issue.
But those people make up two-thirds or more, maybe closer to three-quarters of the intake of newcomers every year.
And very few of them go home when their visas run out.
Foreign students are a particularly good example.
not talking here in most cases about bright young mathematicians, chemists, medical students who are studying at big reputable universities.
We're talking about people who are in six and nine month career education programs at those colleges that you only notice out of the corner of your eye when you're driving past on the street.
And when they're done their programs, they're given about 12 months to 18 months to work in Canada before they're supposed to go back to their country of residence.
But that limit has been expanded, extended by the liberals five times.
And so you have an awful lot of people who came here, studied for six or nine months in marketing management or some sort of, well, let's say less than vigorous program.
While they were here doing that, they could work up to 40 hours a week.
So really what they were doing was they were working full-time.
They were kind of enrolled in these colleges.
And then when that expired, they were able to stay on for another year and a half, most of the time working 40 hours a week or more.
And then when their visas were running out, the federal government extended it and extended it, extended.
So basically what they were doing in Ottawa is they were running a parallel immigration system.
You couldn't get all the people in in the 450,000 quota immigration system we had.
So they created this other program, run people through student visas.
And they doubled the number.
There are twice as many people in a student visa program, roughly, as there are in the regular immigration system.
And then you got to add temporary foreign workers and asylum seekers.
And asylum seekers are mostly people who came here saying they were going to be tourists.
You can fill out a form online to get a travel pass to come into Canada.
You fill out the form, you pay seven bucks, and you get the pass.
And then when you get here, you say, oh, I'm seeking asylum.
And thanks to a Supreme Court ruling back in the 1990s, everybody who is on Canadian soil has the same right to legal processes, including having the government subsidize their legal defense.
They have the same rights, even if they're only here on a visitor's visa, as people who were born and raised in Canada or people who have come to Canada and become naturalized citizens.
There is no advantage in the legal system to being a citizen of the country, whether you were born here or naturalized here.
People who just come and show up can start claiming the same rights.
And I think that that's nuts.
And that's what the liberals have wanted.
Remember Trudeau when he was, before he became prime minister, he talked that this was a post-national country, that we weren't really a nation anymore.
We were a concept.
That's what he meant.
We could absorb two and a half million people a year and it would be fine.
But of course, that's exacerbated inflation and it's exacerbated the housing crisis and all sorts of other, like healthcare.
You know, the waiting rooms and hospitals are fuller than they would be otherwise because we have 2 million new people a year coming to Canada.
It's absurd.
And in many cases, in almost every case, if you follow the money, you understand why.
Those fake colleges that you see in strip malls that are teaching loosey-goosey degrees, they're not teaching medicine or even accounting or law or engineering or something tangible.
They're teaching loosey-goosey stuff, but they're charging monster tuition.
So they're basically human traffickers.
They say, we'll let you into Canada.
Just pay us $15,000 for a six-month course in barbershop marketing.
Not that there's anything wrong with barbershop marketing, but we don't need people to come here from India to study barbershops.
We don't just cut one hair.
We cut them all.
Barbershop marketing.
I just make it so much.
So there's tens of billions of dollars in basically, I'm going to call them, I mean, not quite bribes, because they're basically these colleges are selling visas, is really what's going on.
I think that's largely fair.
And on the temporary foreign workers side, I like going to McDonald's for breakfast.
I like their coffee better than Tim Hortons.
But McDonald's is a foreign international company.
So is Tim Hortons, by the way.
It's owned by a Brazilian-American hedge fund.
And I would doubt that there's 5% of the staff of those companies are Canadian citizens.
So basically, what we're doing is bringing in temporary foreign workers to subsidize billion-dollar foreign companies so they don't have to pay another buck an hour to hire Canadians.
I was looking at the stats.
There's 350,000 unemployed young Canadians.
That's by definition between 15 and 24 years of age.
So there's 350,000 unemployed young people and there's 750,000 temporary foreign workers.
I'm not saying they're all working at McDonald's and Tim Hortons, but a lot of them are.
But you know what?
There's another side to that too.
And I know a fellow in northern Alberta who owns eight Tim Hortons.
He could not get unemployed young Canadians to work for him.
He went to get temporary foreign workers because otherwise he'd have to shut down some of his stores.
So we do have a double-edged problem there in that an awful lot of young Canadians don't want to take those kinds of jobs.
Sure.
You know what, though?
I think people could pay an extra buck for the breakfast sandwich and employ a Canadian.
And I think they could do, but you'd have to explain it that way.
And nobody does explain it that way.
The other thing you'd have to do is you'd have to make the ease of getting social benefits harder because then you wouldn't be able to turn your nose up at a $16 an hour coffee push job at McDonald's.
Like, you know, people say, oh, I couldn't possibly do that.
We have to make it socially acceptable to be in the trades or to have that first job.
And exactly.
I mean, my first job was working when I was 14 years old.
I was working in fast food at Callaway Park near Calgary.
And when I was 14, that was a big deal to go and work for the lowest rung on the ladder.
But you can't get to the second rung on a ladder before you climb the first one.
I made a buck $65 an hour in my first job working at a dairy queen.
And I'm glad there aren't any pictures of me wearing that hat.
But you know what?
You know, I learned so much.
Sure, you did.
Doug and Lil Burgess were the franchisees in Madison Hat when I was growing up.
And I learned so much from them about punctuality, responsibility, customer service.
Oh, my goodness, there would be people who would come and they'd have to stand in a long line on a hot Sunday evening and they would be mad when they got to the window.
But I learned from Doug and Lil how to use a smile to turn away their frustration.
And, you know, that's a lesson that has served me well all my life.
So you can learn an awful lot.
There was one time when 7% of the U.S. workforce had had its first job at a McDonald's.
Yeah.
Not at any fast food restaurant, not the Wendy's and the Burger Kings and things, just at McDonald's, 7% of them.
And that gives people a really good grounding in a tough job for less.
The other thing is, if you work in one of those jobs for a while, you think, yeah, maybe I should go back to school and get a degree or a trade or whatever, because I'm going to make a lot more money and be more satisfied.
So they're good that way too.
Immigration's Economic Role00:11:06
But, you know, this is all of this is just one problem that the liberals have woked away.
Right.
This is one of the examples where wokeness is more important to them than economic theory, than statistics, than business, than the reality of the world.
And they have run us into the ground with this ridiculous policy.
I mean, I think it was interesting that earlier today, Mark Miller, the immigration minister, kind of admitted that they had let the immigration issue run rampant and that even they were trying to scale it back.
Now, they're not doing anything in any numbers that would really make a difference.
But anything right now would be a help over what it is that they've been doing for the last three or four years.
Let me throw to a few.
We have a couple of clips from Mark Miller, and including one from before Danielle Smith's speech.
But one of the reasons I believe Trudeau is juicing the immigration numbers, first of all, I think they believe that mass immigration will turn into mass liberal votes in a few years.
And there seems to be evidence for that, or at least there has been in the past.
But without mass immigration, Canada would have been in a recession for some time now.
What I mean by that is on a per capita basis, Canadians are falling behind.
Our incomes are falling per person.
So you personally are poorer now than you were a year ago.
How do you mask that if the GDP for the entire country is shrinking?
Well, you bring in millions of people.
And although that doesn't fix the per capita poverty, it gooses the big number because the GDP, oh, it's gone up a couple of points.
Yeah, because you've brought in, you're literally bringing in 5% of the population of this country.
How could it not grow?
So it's masking the poverty.
Here's a clip where Mark Miller basically says, he admits it.
He says, were it not for mass immigration, we'd have to admit we're in a recession.
The Bank of Canada has said it, the International Monetary Fund has said it, immigration writ large has been in part responsible for preventing us from going into a recession, has been important for the net growth in the gross domestic product.
Again, this has been important and it's been important to the growth of the country.
But I think it's safe to admit that we have allowed certain aspects of this to get overheated and probably for too long.
Well, there you have it.
He's admitting that it's basically putting up makeup on a very ugly face of the economy.
Yeah, it is a fake growth because it's, and I've heard economists argue this, and even economists that I like who say, oh, yes, but without immigration, we'd be in a recession.
Yeah, I can guarantee you, though, that the average Canadian has felt like they've been in a recession now for about a year and a half or two years.
And only statistically does immigration mask the reality of the economy.
The inflation is too high.
The carbon tax sucks too much money out of your pocket.
It's harder for your kids to find a job.
Housing prices keep going up.
And lots of those have nothing to do with immigration, but many of them also are exacerbated by immigration.
So you bring in all of these immigrants and they suddenly start producing slightly more GDP so that it doesn't look like GDP is shrinking.
It's growing very, very small.
There was one quarter this year where it grew by 0.2%.
And that's pathetic.
So it's growing small, but it's growing.
And so you can say, oh, well, yes, of course, the country is growing.
And that's because we're bringing in all these immigrants.
But if you look at the cost of living for the average Canadian and the opportunities that they see and the ability for them to buy a home, even to buy a 480-square-foot condo tower apartment in Toronto is evaporating because there's so much pressure on the housing market.
And that is largely, although not entirely, but largely from immigration.
And so it's ridiculous for people to say immigration has kept us from being in a recession.
Statistically, yes.
I mean, but it's like wallpapering over a giant hole in your house and hoping that that's going to keep the cold air out in the wintertime.
It's not.
You know, there are some major institutions in this country that benefit from that gross GDP.
And even if we're getting poor individually, like if you're a bank, pretty much everyone in Canada needs a bank account.
And in fact, if you only have a little bit of money, you actually proportionately pay more in fees.
Pretty much everyone in Canada needs a cell phone.
Everyone needs a landlord.
So there are some powerful lobbies, developers of condos and apartments.
So there are some people that the raw numbers is golden to them.
But that's very different than the average or ordinary person.
I want to move on to the second clip from Mark Miller, because this is the one you were alluding to, where he's sort of admitting that maybe they've gone a little too far.
Listen to these astonishing numbers.
He talks about the number of visa applicants from India alone is 50,000 per month.
Do the math on that.
That's 600,000 people a year from India alone who want to come here.
Here, listen to the exact stats as he says it.
Take a look.
Those measures that we have taken internally to be a little more restrictive on who gets visas, looking at countries where we are seeing people exploiting the visa system, that is to say that those that are claiming for asylum are not legitimate asylum claimants is a challenge to the system, particularly given the volume of people that are looking to come to Canada.
Again, as I said in French, it is a privilege to come to Canada.
It is not a right.
If you compare the numbers of people that have come in, for example, in one country where we have had some of those challenges from India, we have seen those visas jump down from around 50,000 in January to less than 10,000 in August.
Again, these are preliminary numbers, but it is an indicative sign that the measures that we have taken over the summer after discussions with my provincial colleagues are working.
There's more work to do.
And again, there are a number of measures that we need to take to make sure that when asylum seekers come to this country, they get due process, but that there is no abuse in the system.
And it is incumbent on the federal government to act when it controls the leavers, particularly at the border.
So he's sort of grudgingly admitting that it was out of control, but this isn't news to him.
Known this the whole time.
He's been in favor of this the whole time.
In fact, until about five minutes ago, if you criticize this, you were a racist.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, I am amazed that he named the country that was responsible for sending the most of these asylum seeker tourist temporary visa because that alone would have been verboten in the liberal caucus until a month ago.
You know, they've now started to say, well, we're going to cap the number of foreign students.
We're going to cap the number of temporary foreign workers.
The thing about the temporary foreign workers that drives me up the wall is that when Jason Kenney was the immigration minister and Stephen Harper was the prime minister, they made provision to allow 70,000 temporary foreign workers into Canada, largely because there was this job deficit.
We had too few workers, particularly in oil and gas, and they needed bodies.
So they let in 70,000.
Well, the unions and the NDP and the Toronto Star and oh my goodness, they're ruining the country, blah, The liberals are letting in 700,000 or more a year.
And only just now has anybody thought to criticize them over this.
The hypocrisy, in legacy media, we wonder sometimes why we're losing credibility.
And I think that's a particularly good reason why.
We examine one side of the issue vigorously and ignore the flaws in the other side.
And one of the reasons I got into this business 30-some years ago was it was fun to be able to sit in the middle and pick apart both sides.
You know, Danielle Smith showed a lot of courage saying what she said in the political media environment.
She's already getting bashed online for it.
Other premiers have shown that courage too.
The premiers of Quebec has basically, I mean, about a month ago, he said, without temporary foreign workers, we would solve our housing problem immediately, which is, I think, statistically true or close to true.
Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Alberta, Quebec, that's four provinces, have spoken out boldly.
And what's interesting to me is those are all provincial leaders who, again, don't have really constitutional authority.
It's just through agreements that maybe they speak out.
Whereas the federal conservatives, in the form of Pierre Polyev in particular, is still sort of timid.
Previous conservative leaders, Aaron O'Toole and Andrew Scheer, basically said, whatever the liberals say, we say it too.
Please don't call us racist.
Pierre Polyev is slowly and carefully finding his feet.
He's saying, well, we'll track it to home building and employment.
But he's not, which, okay, that's a baby step, but he's not saying stop it.
He's not saying stop the bogus stuff.
Stop the, like he's not calling out things in the same way that Danielle Smith did.
And until Harper, until the end of the Harper era, through Chrétien, through Martin, you know, so for what, however many years of liberalness that that was, back through Mulroney, basically our immigration decisions were based on economic need.
If the country had an economic need for what you possessed, the skills you possessed, the entrepreneurial smarts that you had, the trade, whatever it was, we were happy to let you in because it was a win-win.
Deportations and Sustainability00:05:23
We needed those skills.
You wanted to come to Canada.
But that all had that connection with the economic side of things has gone out the window under the liberals.
You know, it's true.
And I'm glad Pierre Polyev is slowly finding his courage, but I think he's so terrified of the traditional liberal media weapon against conservatives, you're racist, that he, that's, I think that's the only reason holding him back.
And I, and I think that that, that that weapon has been disarmed a bit.
I think in some ways now, if the Toronto Star editorializes that you are a racist because you don't want to have, you know, 700,000 foreign students in the country, a lot of people who are reading are going to say, I agree with that.
I don't think you're racist.
I just think that that's smart.
And like, for instance, on my own case, I was reluctant to go too hard on the subject of immigration until it became a mathematical issue.
I am not against immigration.
I'm not against immigrants from any particular area of the world.
I don't have a lot of strong feelings about family reunification, for instance, as long as economically you're viable.
But the math now just simply does not work.
It just doesn't.
And so I think we're getting to that realization among the population where, yeah, we understand now that one and a half or two million new people a year is unsustainable.
And I think it's really, really funny because, of course, the people who are the most adamant about maintaining these high numbers are the very people who think that, well, our current use of fossil fuels is unsustainable.
Hey, great.
We're not big on sustainability.
We're not big on sustainability when it comes to the population or the economy.
There's so much inconsistency among progressives and the left in the country, whether they're media or politicians or advocates, that it's some days I just wake up and I wonder, am I bashing my head against the wall?
You know, the other day I came across a podcast, I think it was called Toronto Teens, sort of spoken in a Jamaican accent.
It's sort of Caribbean Torontonians, and they were just flabbergasted with the immigration numbers.
When Caribbean Torontonians who have been here for 20 or 30 years, but still have a bit of that Caribbean accent, when they're saying, this is crazy, please stop.
You know it's safe to come out.
But I think there's some politicians in Shellshock.
I saw this just the other day.
My friend Steve Edgington interviewed Nigel Farage, the head of the UK Reform Party that was elected really on stopping the migrant boats.
Their Roxom Road is basically a flotilla of dinghies coming across every day.
And Steve said, are you for mass deportations?
I think Tony Blair at his height was deporting 55,000 a year.
Here's Nigel Farage saying, no, I'm not going to try and take that one on.
Here's a quick clip of that.
It's a political impossibility to deport hundreds of thousands of people.
We simply can't do it.
At the moment, it's a political impossibility.
But is it your ambition?
No.
No, I'm not going to get dragged down the route of mass deportations or anything like that.
I mean, people are always going to come and go.
And we are a country that's engaged in international trade and we have relationships around the world through the Commonwealth, etc.
But yeah, we have to aim at a balanced migration policy.
But net zero still means hundreds of thousands of people coming into Britain, immigrants coming into Britain.
Isn't that too many?
It may well be, but we have to start somewhere.
As Trump says in America that he wants mass deportations, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are in Britain at the moment.
Some estimates say the number could even be in a million plus.
So do you support deporting all of those people?
It's impossible to do.
Literally impossible to do.
If Nigel Farage himself is so terrified of being called far right that he's abandoned the idea of deportations, you can see how scary it is.
But I'm glad to see that the Conservative Party is fielding Jamil Javani, who's one of their newly elected MPs, and he's a visible minority himself.
So I think that the Conservatives are leaning into it.
Here's a quick clip of Jamil Javani.
Maybe he doesn't have to be so worried about being called a racist, being a black man himself.
Take a look.
I rise in the House today to oppose Bill C-71.
And I do so wanting to recognize the context that our country finds itself in right now.
We have two high immigration levels.
We are now approaching an average of 1.5 million people coming into the country per year.
And the reason we know that's too high is because population growth is now outpacing the job market.
It's outpacing the housing market.
It's also outpacing investment in social services like hospitals, schools, and child care facilities.
The quality of life for the average Canadian is in decline because of the stress being placed on our local economies and on public services.
Immigration's Impact on Quality of Life00:08:33
Well, look, I think this is good news.
I wish it happened years ago.
Frankly, I wish it happened under Stephen Harper.
I am motivated, I think, more by cultural issues than you are, Lauren, because I look at these Hamas hate marches in Toronto and Montreal and other places, and I see that it's 90% newcomers.
It's about 10% woke university kids that maybe will grow out of it, just like they have maybe a lesbian phase when they're on campus that they grow out of.
They'll have a Palestinian phase where they grow out of.
But I'm talking about people who come here from endemically anti-Semitic places.
They're not going to grow out of it.
They were never screened for it.
They never were told it was wrong.
The people I see leading the Hamas marches with masks and with violence and uttering threats and mischief and trespass.
I'm not talking about hate crimes.
I'm talking about real crimes.
They are overwhelmingly new Canadians.
And we did not do a values test.
So I'm much more motivated by that because I'm alert to it because I'm Jewish.
And so I see this anti-Semitic crime wave.
But either, no matter how you get to it, I think we've got a, look, I think bringing in refugees from Gaza is insane.
But that's happening right now.
Anyway, I'm very pleased to see it going.
And doubly insane without screening them.
So the NDP caucus and members of the Liberal caucus are aghast at the idea that Global Affairs Canada, or Canada Border Security Agency, will ask the Israelis if the person who's thinking of coming to Canada has any outstanding security issues back in Gaza.
Oh, how can you ask the Israelis?
Of course, they're going to hate all those people.
They're not going to let him.
Nobody knows better, person for person, who in Gaza is a threat and who is not.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, who else are you going to ask?
The Hamas administrators?
Let me leave you with one clip.
Yeah, that's right.
Here's one last clip of Mark Miller.
Now, this was from a few days ago.
So this was before Danielle Smith delivered what I thought was a very persuasive remark.
Here he is referring to refugees and migrants almost as a punishment, as a weapon.
And if you don't take your fair share, we'll put them in your province no matter what.
We'll just buy a hotel and plunk them down.
We'll create a little plantation.
Take a look.
But we've never said anything of this sort.
Well, look, right now we could open up a hotel in any particular province and ship people there.
That's an option.
We have been moving people around to relieve pressure from Ontario and Quebec.
That's not a financially viable model.
It's not an effective model, but it's one that needs some reform in order to make sure the provinces are stepping up.
Looking at what their labor force needs are, what the capacity is to help some of these folks as they wait the determination of their protected person status.
And it's one where we actually need coordination with provinces.
Most of the provinces are at the table talking to us about what these models would be.
It's far from being complete.
But again, there's only so far the federal government can actually be nice and say, please, please, we also have levers that we need to pull and push.
And provinces do get the benefit from immigration.
So it's something that we need to deal with in a responsible fashion.
And we expect every single province to be responsible.
Well, there he is.
He's toned down a little bit since those.
Like, I tell you, this Mark Miller, he would not be in cabinet were he not part of Justin Trudeau's wedding party.
He's like, exactly.
It was a dumb crew.
Seamus O'Regan was dumber.
I'll grant you that.
Mark Miller is as smart as he is beautiful.
I mean, this guy is rough, but, but he's one of the, he's one of the last remaining palace guard who supports Justin Trudeau.
It's not like, it's not like Trudeau is a genius.
Trudeau's a lightweight.
So he picked all sorts of lightweights from his university classes, his university days, and his wedding party to join him in cabinet.
The only one I think in that whole group that was the little Trudeau cabal at McGill who's worth their weight is probably Dominic LeBlanc.
Yeah.
But he himself could be a serious cabinet minister in a more serious prime minister's cabinet.
He could have been in Martin's cabinet, could have been in Cretan's cabinet.
You know, he is a grown-up, but he's one of the only ones there.
And Miller is astonishing in that the Constitution does not give the feds the sole say on immigration.
It is a shared responsibility between the provinces and the federal government.
They cannot simply impose a solution on the provinces, except maybe they could buy a hotel in every major city in the country, put a fence around it, and make it one of their little internment camps for asylum seekers.
But the very idea of doing that on both sides is repugnant.
And why they would even think about it, I don't know.
And, you know, in one of the earlier clips you showed, he said, well, I don't know why these premiers are so upset.
They have this document, they think, that proves we are about to foist tens of thousands of asylum seekers on provinces who don't have them now.
That's just ridiculous.
No, I saw the document.
The Alberta guys gave me a copy of the document they had.
And Miller at one point says to the reporters, well, I could give you the document and it would clear things up for you.
So why didn't he do it?
He didn't do it because the document says exactly what the Alberta and the New Brunswick and the Nova Scotia government say it says, which is, here is how many asylum seekers we have in Canada right now.
It's about 238,000.
You divide that by each province's population.
Alberta gets 28,000.
Nova Scotia gets 9,400.
New Brunswick gets, I think it's 8,200.
It was very clear.
I mean, you didn't have to be a genius to read through this document and see exactly what they were planning.
And they got caught at it.
And now he's, oh, no, no, no.
It was never our intention to do that.
These people are politicizing.
They're weaponizing this for political purposes.
Oh, oh, feathers.
Yeah, here's a quick clip of Mark Miller saying that, saying that the provinces are weaponizing immigration.
Here, take a look.
But sadly, three particularly conservative ministers have stood up, the premiers of Nova Scotia, of New Brunswick, and Alberta, and decided to weaponize this working group.
They took a theoretical number of asylum seekers based on the last year's number of asylum seekers, divided it up by the population as they would and assumed that the federal government would impose a number of asylum seekers on them.
Let me restate, Ontario and Quebec are doing more than their fair share and the other provinces need to step up.
But there was no point in time where anyone said that the federal government was going to impose thousands of asylum seekers on unprepared provinces.
I should probably give you the documents that they themselves leaked because it would probably be quite helpful for your analysis.
But this was a productive working group that has been weaponized by three premiers in particular for their re-election or their leadership review.
And I think it's really irresponsible.
Lauren, I've been trying to study immigration around the world.
I've traveled to various countries.
I met with Kurt Bilders, the anti-immigration politician who actually got the most votes in the last Dutch election.
I went to Marseille when they had race riots there.
Very interesting town, about 40,000, sorry, about 40% Muslim and no integration whatsoever.
Just astonishing the divide between ethnic French and ethnic Algerians mainly.
And I've spent a little bit of time in Ireland recently, and they have this crazy policy.
Lauren, if you think Canada's policy is crazy, listen to this.
They have this policy of taking migrants.
About one in five Irish these days is a newcomer.
Like they've gone crazy with their immigration.
But instead of putting them in in Dublin or the big cities, they're spreading them out in small towns.
But in, like, here's an example.
I was in a tiny village called Dundrum, population about 200.
The government booked the whole hotel and is moving in 280 migrants, all military-aged migrant men, 280 newcomers in a town of a village of 200.
How?
How do you cope?
How do you get doctors?
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How do you like that?
You've just made the Irish a minority in their own town.
And this is a country that fought British plantations, as they called them, for centuries.
And I've never seen such rage and anger just in a residential area.
They're putting 500 in an old sort of factory warehouse across from schools or kids stuff.
Like it's almost like they're designed to irritate people.
Why would you put 280 people in a town of 200?
Well, I tell you, it's exciting, Lauren.
We're finally talking about this issue in the dying days of Trudeau's tenure.
Give me your quick prediction.
Do you think he's going to be able to tough it out and stick around?
He lost a pretty key by-election in a very old liberal riding, Paul Martin's old riding, David LeMeni's old riding, really safe liberal turf.
They lost, you know, there was a while it looked like they were, you know, they never really had a chance.
There's a while where the NDP was leading there.
Do you think Trudeau can tough it out?
Do you think there's enough loyalty in the party to let him continue?
Or maybe it's just too late.
I saw Percy Brown, or Percy Downs, rather, a liberal senator, writing, Trudeau should have stepped aside, but it's too late now.
No one could come in with enough time to get their legs under them before the next election.
It's a shame, but we're stuck with them.
It's quite a piece for him to write.
You know what?
Do they have enough time?
I think they do.
All you have to do is look at the hope among American media and American Democrats for Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris, if she had the amount of time left that the Liberals have, which is 13 months, she would be exposed as the ultra-left, vacant, angry, staff-bullying person that she is.
But she might just be able to squeak out for two more months.
So, you know, you bring somebody new and you bring Mark Carney in and he just, he's not Trudeau.
For two months, he's not Trudeau.
They call an election.
They get a win, and then you find out that he's a smug elitist who has all sorts of conflicts of interest.
And, you know, he probably isn't any better than Trudeau.
But anyway, do I think Trudeau will tough it out?
Yes, until spring.
I can't say beyond that.
He's going to make deals.
There's a confidence motion coming up for a vote next week in the House of Commons.
And the Conservatives have brilliantly made this as simple as possible.
The House has no confidence in the prime minister or the government.
Period.
It's not about the carbon tax.
It's not about any issue.
It simply says the House has no confidence.
And Jagmit Singh for three weeks now has been saying Trudeau is done.
I have no confidence left.
And blah, But he's going to find a way to vote for the liberals.
And I'm told that the way they're going to go with this is the pharmacare bill is stuck in the Senate.
And if you were to suddenly call an election, the PharmaCare bill would die.
And so the NDP are going to say, well, until at least the PharmaCare bill is passed, because it's so vitally important to Canadians.
We have to keep this government in power.
And so we're going to vote against the confidence motion by the Conservatives.
And Trudeau's going to find some way to get the bloc to do that for him every once in a while, get the NDP to do it for him every once in a while.
And I think they'll limp through until spring sometime.
And then it's just going to be too exhausting and they'll have to let it go.
I think you're right.
Lauren, great to see you.
Thanks for spending so much time with us today.
You bet.
All right.
There you have Lauren Gunter, a senior columnist for the Edmonton Sun.
Stay with us.
letters to me next.
Hey, welcome back.
Your letters to me.
Someone nicknamed Waterbottle says, at this point, it is no longer a question if the Liberal Party will be out of power with the next election.
The question is exactly how far will the party be decimated in terms of amount of seats?
I think you're right.
I showed you that David Coletto abacus poll that showed how firmly people were voting for Pierre Polyev.
They just were not movable.
They weren't even listening to Trudeau out except out of disgust.
You never know what can happen.
I mean, God forbid, may it never happen here.
Look what has happened twice to Donald Trump in the last month, two assassination attempts.
May it never happen, God forbid.
But I guess what I'm saying is you never know what's going to happen in the course of the next year.
That's the most dramatic possibility, but something else could happen.
I think what's going to be interesting and what I hope Pierre Polyev does if he wins is to have a proper audit and accounting of all the corruption that happened over the last nine years.
And I think, frankly, that's something Donald Trump could have done in the United States.
All the crooked deals and payoffs and commissions and, frankly, the Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
I think Donald Trump could have shone a light on a lot of that bad behavior and it would have exposed, frankly, some of his perpetual enemies.
It's not just about vengeance.
It's about truth and reconciliation, to coin a phrase, to know what was happening and to stop it from happening again.
So I think that a lot of that has to happen in Canada if Polyev wins.
H. Chow said, if I were Trudeau, I would consider abandoning the sinking ship of the Liberal Party and join the blocker NDP to continue ruling Canada.
I think Trudeau is the problem.
And he has such a weak team around him.
As Lorna and I discussed, he really hired his wedding party and they weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.
And don't tell me Christia Freeland is that bright.
I just don't believe you.
Robin Breesbois says, not really progress.
Montreal traded socialism for a more extreme version of socialism.
I accept what you're saying.
I mean, the Bloc Québécois, the NDP, the Liberals, they were all atrocious candidates.
I suppose, though, having the Bloc win there is a more significant rebuke to Trudeau, and they are sort of the natural opposition in Quebec.
If we don't want Trudeau to win seats, that's going to surely mean the Bloc will win some, given the Bloc has no chance to form government.
Frankly, I'm not too concerned.
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