Ezra Levant examines Canada’s controversial acceptance of 2,000+ Gazan refugees via temporary resident visas, raising alarms with U.S. Senator Marco Rubio over potential Hamas-linked infiltration—233 suspected terrorists were flagged at the U.S.-Canada border in 2024 alone. Trudeau’s refusal to engage with independent journalists like Kian Bechti, who exposed his evasive media tactics and 13-minute beach interview, contrasts sharply with mainstream outlets’ uncritical access. Meanwhile, Iran-backed pro-Hamas protests—including biohazard threats—highlight Canada’s double standards, as police crack down on dissent while ignoring state-sponsored risks, proving independent media’s role despite being just 1% of mainstream outlets. [Automatically generated summary]
We're going to interview our alumnus, Kian Bechti, who managed to scrum Justin Trudeau on a beach a couple days ago.
Very exciting.
And I want to take you through Senator Marco Rubio's letter to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security about Canada's risky decision to bring thousands of Gaza refugees to Canada.
Marco Rubio is worried that they will walk across the border into the U.S. I'll read his letter to you.
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All right, here's today's podcast.
Tonight, a U.S. senator seems to care more about our safety than our own politicians do.
It's July 25th, and this is the Ezra Levant show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Suspected Terrorists at the Border00:13:43
I'm not sure if you know this, but Trudeau decided to bring in refugees from Gaza.
And they've started to arrive.
I've seen social media posts showing what are described as hundreds of Gazans pouring into our country.
And yesterday, a U.S. senator rang the alarm about this, worried that terrorists will cross over the border from Canada into the States.
I'll tell you more about that in a moment.
No other country in the world that I know of is taking refugees from Gaza.
I think Australia might be considering it.
But, you know, there's a lot of countries right near Gaza, and they're not taking any.
Gaza is 99.9% Muslim.
There are dozens of Muslim countries in the world right around there.
They're not taking any refugees from Gaza.
Not just Muslim countries, but dozens of Arab countries.
Arab being an ethnicity, Arabic being a language.
Those countries are not taking these refugees from Gaza.
Countries that are a better fit in so many ways than we are or Australia would be.
From the climate to social and economic fit to the kind of food they eat.
As in, do you think it would be easier for someone from Gaza to find work and make friends and make a new life in Cairo, Egypt, or Calgary, Alberta?
It's obvious, but no Arab or Muslim country in the world will take them.
Why is that?
Here's the mighty fence, the wall on the border between Gaza and Egypt.
It's much more fearsome and impenetrable than the one between Israel and Gaza that Hamas breached with such ease on October 7th last year.
Why would their cousins in Egypt, fellow Muslims and Arabs, neighbors, go to such lengths to keep them out?
There's an obvious answer.
Refugees from Gaza are most likely either terrorist supporters or terrorists themselves.
That is not a baseless accusation or a mere insult.
It's what Gazans themselves say to pollsters.
Most people in Gaza support the terrorist attack on October 7th.
They support Hamas, the terrorist group that runs the Gaza Strip.
It's not a big surprise.
They have been totally inculcated in that worldview since 2005 when Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip.
When Hamas took over Gaza, they instituted a Sharia law dictatorship.
And it's basically been 20 years of brainwashing.
They teach Hamas propaganda and anti-Semitic hatred to young kids in preschool, even.
If you're pumped full of that hatred from the day you're born to the day you're an adult, and then your adult life is under the Hamas military dictatorship, odds are you're going to be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer yourself.
It's amazing the poll numbers aren't actually higher.
And the main point I'm driving at here is Hamas still controls the instrument of the state in Gaza.
The health ministry, for example, that's run by Hamas.
Of course it is.
And their main job is to provide propaganda numbers to the West, exaggerating the civilian death toll, blaming Israel for Hamas-friendly fire against its own people, and identifying plain clothes terrorists as civilians in the death counts.
But the reason I mention this is Hamas still controls much of daily life in Gaza and many government functions.
So when Canada says to Gaza that Canada will accept thousands of refugees, those refugees are not self-selected.
It's not a free place.
They're selected or approved by Hamas, which runs the bureaucracy there.
So the thousands of Gaza refugees that Trudeau is bringing to Canada, Hamas chose them.
A terrorist group chose them.
That's really happening.
Just this past week, Canadian terrorists, Homegrown, made headlines around the world.
One for conspiring with terrorists in the United Kingdom, the other for flying from Canada to Israel to attack some Jews directly.
He failed.
So we already have terrorists active in Canada, and Trudeau is bringing in more by the thousand.
We've had a petition about this for months, by the way, at Rebel News.
We want to deport Hamas supporters who are not citizens.
And we don't want to bring more in.
We say no to Gaza refugees, but Trudeau obviously doesn't listen to us.
And strangely, I haven't heard any conservative politicians opposing the Gaza refugees in any vigorous, specific way.
Have you?
Maybe they've whispered it somewhere, but you'd think this would be a five-alarm fire, wouldn't you?
Now, if I'm wrong, please correct me.
Let me know if I miss someone in the official opposition opposing this.
There are some reasons to oppose it.
They're a danger to us.
They won't fit into our Canadian society.
And they might fit in too well with the Hamas hate marches every week in Canada.
We have too many migrants already in Canada.
Housing is expensive.
Wages are driven down.
And what work skills do these refugees have?
They wouldn't be a fit here.
But I think another one, another reason, is Canada's reputation with our allies, which is what we're talking about today.
Here's what U.S. Senator Marco Rubio, who happens to be the ranking member of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee, here's what he has to say.
He tweeted about this.
Canada allowing Gazan refugees with potential terrorist ties into their country poses a national security threat to the U.S. northern border.
In a letter with colleagues, he urged Secretary Mayorkis to heighten precautions along the border.
Then he posted a link to that letter.
I'm going to read a lot of it.
It's a letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Homeland Security.
That's who Mayorkas is.
So here's the letter.
Dear Secretary Mayarkas, on May 27, 2024, the government of Canada announced its intent to increase the number of Gazans who will be allowed into their country under temporary special measures.
We are deeply concerned and request heightened scrutiny by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security should any of them attempt to enter the United States at ports of entry as well as between ports of entry, like Wroxham Road in reverse.
We have the longest undefended border with the U.S. in the world.
So now Hamas and their hand-picked refugees to Canada do too.
I'm going to read about a special kind of passport that Trudeau is giving these Gazans as described by Rubio.
It's part of the letter.
Canada's measures to apply for a temporary resident visa, TRV, will reportedly be offered to Palestinians living in the Palestinian territories.
Currently, once the foreign national is granted entry by Canada via a TRV, they are given a refugee travel document, which replaces their original country passport while they apply for Canadian citizenship and wait to receive a Canadian passport.
I didn't know we were welcoming these Gazans on a permanent basis, did you?
After arriving in Canada and being issued this travel document, Palestinians can then travel outside Canada since the refugee travel document becomes a valid form of identification, which is recognized in 146 countries for the purposes of filling out paperwork and applying for visas.
For example, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services accepts a refugee travel document as a valid form of documentation for traveling purposes in place of a passport.
However, with little to no reliable records or background checks of these individuals from the Palestinian territories, these policies unlock opportunities for individuals with ties to terrorist groups to enter Canada, receive new forms of identification, and then try to enter the U.S. along the poorest northern border.
And that's the thing, isn't it?
We love America and America loves us, so we really have easy travel across the border.
We've had it for generations.
9-11 tightened things up a bit.
You need a passport typically to cross the border now, but we don't need a special visa.
And of course, Trudeau is giving a form of a passport to people from Gaza, replacing their old passport.
Will the U.S. continue to allow this to happen, allow free and easy travel, if Trudeau opens the northern door to risks?
I'll keep reading the letter.
Irrespective of Canada's immigration policies, the U.S. should not waive common sense terrorist screening and vetting for any individual entering the U.S. through other countries.
While the Biden administration claims that all foreign nationals are inspected pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act, this administration's lax border control and border enforcement is increasingly apparent as terrorists and known criminals continue to stream across U.S. land borders, including from Canada.
Unfortunately, so far in fiscal year 24, get this, U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Office of Field Operations has encountered more than 233 suspected terrorists at our northern border, with many more likely going undetected.
This is already higher than totals in previous years.
I didn't know that, did you?
223 suspected terrorists in Canada trying to get into the States.
This year alone.
Now, that's terrifying to me because that means there are 233 terrorist suspects in Canada just who were going to the U.S. and were turned back.
How many more are up here who haven't tried to go to the U.S. or weren't detected by the U.S.?
And if they were detected, they were surely just stopped at the border and sent back, sent back to what?
Just sent back to their homes, to our neighborhoods?
Were police on the Canadian side even advised of this?
Were police invited to arrest these terrorists?
Did they?
Or are these suspected terrorists just milling around?
Just sitting in Canada now, unable to go to the U.S., so perhaps they'll choose Canadian targets?
What happened to these 233 suspected terrorists that came from Canada and were returned to Canada?
I find that a terrifying question.
Here's more from the letter.
As such, the possibility of terrorists crossing the U.S.-Canada border is deeply concerning given the deep penetration of Gazan society by Hamas.
It would be irresponsible for the U.S. to not take necessary heightened precautions when foreigners attempt to enter the United States.
Further, we urge you to coordinate with the U.S. Department of State to ensure that the U.S. is informed by the government of Canada if particularly high-risk individuals are allowed to enter Canada from Gaza and request answers to the following questions by August 8th, 2024.
Now, this is a list of questions that Rubio has, but we should be asking them too.
And I don't think they've been asked.
Here's Rubio's questions.
When the Palestinian national or Canadian TRV holder, that's that temporary sort of form of a passport, attempts to enter and or claim asylum at a U.S. port of entry, what is the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's protocol to either permit or deny their entry?
So what happens if they come to Canada and then try and claim asylum in the States?
Have there been instances of Palestinian nationals entering the United States through our southern and or northern borders?
If so, how many have been released into the U.S. despite the U.S. not accepting Gazan refugees?
Wow, that's a good question.
How many being denied entry?
For those that are denied, what is the process for removal?
If a Gazan claims asylum at the southern or northern border, under what circumstances will the Department of Homeland Security release the individual into the U.S. I'm assuming they're being sent back to Canada, but Senator Rubio, what he cares about is are they getting into the U.S. Have Gazans been permitted entry into the country via the southern or northern border?
If so, how many and under what status?
Those are great questions.
Have you heard those questions asked in Canada?
And then he closes, thank you for your attention to this important matter.
I think those are really good questions.
I have not heard them asked either by the media or the official opposition in this country.
I think we need to ask our own government those same and similar questions, if only our official opposition might have the courage to do so.
And look, Marco Rubio's office wrote the letter, but half a dozen U.S. senators signed it, including some very senior and influential senators, Ted Cruz, for example.
Senators in the U.S. really do things.
They're very powerful people.
There's only 100 senators in the whole Congress.
They're not rubber stamps like we have up here or Chinese agents as we have up here.
Senators Demand Answers00:11:57
Our senators really don't have power.
They do down there.
Oh, and when I went to the CBC's website to see how they were reporting on this, well, the answer is they've got nothing.
Here's the search I did.
Nothing.
Six U.S. senators ring the alarm about Hamas infiltration.
They say 233 terrorist suspects were detected trying to come in from Canada.
They're threatening to tighten up the border, but Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster says nothing, not a word.
Yeah, we're in trouble.
How pitiful is it that we need help from the U.S. to save us?
Stay with us for more.
Hey, did you see this the other day?
Very exciting.
I asked you, though.
Sorry, sorry.
Sir, I'll just ask you super quickly.
Your minister said that going on vacation.
No, don't put your hands on me.
Don't put your hands on me.
More than any political leader on the face of the earth, Justin Trudeau carefully manages his media appearances.
Who's allowed access to him?
Who can get into press conferences?
Who he'll arrest if they get too close?
Who he'll sit down for an interview with?
You had your media advance call the RCMP because I was going to ask questions that you didn't want.
I wasn't the CBC.
I wasn't CTV.
I wasn't Global News.
Following his catastrophic by-election loss in Toronto, the Prime Minister has gone into hiding.
He refuses to call a caucus meeting, and his administration is hanging on by a thread.
Sure, thank you.
Are you looking for a replacement right now?
No, I am absolutely not.
I am running in the next election.
Are you concerned at all about your poll numbers?
No, I am not.
What causes you to not be concerned?
After reviewing open source information and discerning the whereabouts of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's plane, we realized he was in hiding into Fino.
The mainstream media was calling it a vacation, but we knew where he was, and we knew that this was the only opportunity we'd have to get questions answered.
Mark Holland said that going on a road trip is equivalent to setting the world on fire.
You can take a summer fun-time vacation where you're locked in a car for 10 consecutive days, non-stop with no bathroom breaks, and the conservatives have a plan for you to have that summertime fun and the cost?
Give up the future of the planet.
You chartered a government jet to here, Tofino.
I'm not going to do the math on how much carbon that burned.
Shockingly, we had a 13-minute conversation with the Prime Minister on a beach.
The first time, perhaps, in his entire political career, he didn't lean on the police to stop a journalist from doing their job.
This full interview is available at thecountersignal.com for newsroom insiders.
13 minutes, unaltered, unedited conversation with the prime minister asking questions that the CBC would never dare to ask.
What shampoo do you use?
Do you see any similarities between yourself and Joe Biden's group political situation?
No.
Please support the work that we are doing by becoming a newsroom insider so that we can do more of this, so that we can ask the questions the mainstream media refuses to.
So we can get to the story wherever it is.
You might recognize that young man in the ball cap.
He used to work with Rebel News, and he joins us now via Skype from Calgary.
I'm talking about Kian Bexte, who now runs the Countersignal.
Well, Kian, I've been excited about this all week since you sort of gave me a little teaser about it a couple days ago.
First of all, I want to tell you I'm a little bit jealous that you came up with the idea because I love that idea.
And to execute it, very adventurous, very entrepreneurial, the best of citizen journalism.
I got to say, I was smiling from ear to ear just with the audacity of it.
I think the boring, staid, complacent, passive groupthink Justin Jernose of Canada exactly need that kind of dissident journalism you were doing.
That's what I think.
How was it?
What was it like?
It was surreal.
And I think that that was sort of captured in the reaction.
People couldn't believe that it had happened.
One of, actually, you remember Kathy, one thing she told me when I was starting with Rebel News that one of the biggest compliments you can get as a journalist is when you reach out to a source you're doing a story on.
You call them and the first thing they say is, how'd you get this phone number?
It's kind of, you know, a bit of a compliment to any journalist.
And when people are shocked that we were able to find exactly where he was on one of the remote, most remote places in the country, you know, it wasn't the most easy thing to do, but it's not, you know, we did it because that was our only option.
You'll know as well as I do that we had to sue Justin Trudeau to get into the parliamentary, the election debates back in 20, back before 2020.
And then we had to fight again in 2021 to get back in.
He'll arrest us as he did when I was with Rebel News when we went to go to one of his pandemic press conferences.
He's the one that makes it difficult.
And we need to get the answers that our viewers want to hear.
So we meet him on a beach.
You know, it's a public place.
He had his public RCMP with him.
It is true that his family was there also.
He's on vacation half the time.
In fact, I think there was a study that shows he's taken more personal days than any other prime minister on record.
I would be more sympathetic to complaints about, oh, you found him on vacation.
First of all, if he wasn't on vacation all the time.
Second of all, if he wasn't lecturing you and me, not to have so many gas-guzzling vacations.
But most important of all, he refuses to let journalists he doesn't like talk to him at the official places.
So when I see journalists like Andre Picard of the Globe and Mail, he actually tweeted this.
He said that you were stalking.
He said, this isn't journalism.
This is stalking.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is confronted during his family holiday by Keimbeck Stee of Rebel News.
Yeah, you know what?
There's Andre Picard of the Globe and Mail.
Can't even do basic journalism where you're from.
Andre Picard can get an audience with Justin Trudeau anytime he wants.
It's not one for him to ask skeptical or prickly questions.
He can get in to a press conference where Trudeau will read a script and only polite questions are allowed.
And Andre Picard might get the occasional scrap fed to him in a leak.
So Andre Picard gets his journalism that is regime journalism by every definition.
He's on the payroll of the government subsidy.
So he gets access to Trudeau because he has accepted the terms that Trudeau offers.
Be compliant, be obedient, take the cash and shut up.
What Andre Picard doesn't realize is that journalists like you and Rebel News and about half a dozen others cannot get access.
And if we try, we're arrested.
That's a great point.
And I wanted to grill him on that.
That was one of the lines of questions that I asked him.
I confronted him for the first time after it's been five years now since I was arrested outside of his house with our cameraman with Rebel.
And he's never answered for that.
And he didn't really answer it on the beach either.
He is really good at evading questions.
That's why he's managed to stay in the position that he's been in for so long is he doesn't really answer the question.
And when he does, he ends up lying as he did multiple times.
We tried to add some visuals onto the screen so that we could hold him accountable and give context to our viewers that he actually kind of was full of it a lot of the time, especially when talking about the Online Harms Act and when talking about his vacation schedule, which he says he works harder than the vast majority of Canadians, which I think is just outrageous.
Anyone who works two jobs, a single mother, is going to be scratching their head when they watch that, wondering why exactly the prime minister, who's able to afford a luxury vacation for one-third of the year, why he thinks that his job is harder than hers.
And as you know, I work more days a week than the vast majority of Canadians.
You know, you showed a few clips there in that trailer we played of you being, I'm not sure if arrest is the right word, but you were detained when an officer puts their hands on you.
That's actually the legal definition of an arrest.
You're being detained.
You were frog marched off of government property.
You showed our friend David Menzies being slammed up against the wall, who had been waiting to ask Trudeau a question.
You just mentioned about how he banned us from the leaders' debates.
Tell us a little bit about when you first encountered him.
He had his security sort of around there.
You were going in low-key.
You just had a cell phone as a microphone, and your colleague had a cell phone, I presume, as a camera.
Nothing big that would say professional media.
It looked like you were just a couple on the beach.
So I think you probably came in under the radar.
Tell us what that was like.
And then I'm going to play the clip of when the RCMP sort of realized that you're there to engage with them and they swarm.
But I can imagine your heart was racing when you saw him and moved in.
You wanted to move in quickly, but probably not so quickly that you would trip an alarm.
Just give us that TikTok.
That's exactly right.
So you see him there, you identify him.
Then what do you do?
Well, I'll go back a little bit further.
I get to Tofino.
I land on the seaplane there.
I get picked up by my colleague who lives on the island who met me in Tofino.
We drive around.
It's really easy to find where Justin Trudeau is at any time when you know what an RCMP officer who's undercover looks like.
They wear a black vest, they have plaid on, and they usually have sunglasses on.
His motorcade was pretty difficult to hide.
It was parked in front of a driveway of a house.
So we parked our car about a kilometer up the road and then got onto the beach.
We were wearing beach clothing.
You can see I was wearing shorts there.
We brought towels.
We looked like we were there to enjoy the beach.
And we ended up sitting sort of adjacent to the property for about two hours while we wondered, hmm, is Trudeau going to go out for dinner tonight?
Is he going to come enjoy the sunset?
Where are his kids?
We had no idea where they were, if his family was even with him.
There was no, you know, it was actually a public interest story at that point.
Did he have, you know, we didn't know.
Was Sophie there?
Was someone else there?
It's all interesting stuff that's definitely in the public interest.
And in that moment, we were sort of blind.
We didn't even know if he was in the building at the time.
And as we were sitting there on some driftwood, we see Trudeau sort of walk out of the back end of the property towards the shore.
It was about a 90-second walk, and the RCMP remained on the property.
So my team and I, we started walking along the shoreline as slowly as we could so that it didn't raise any sort of suspicions.
And then when we got within about 50 meters, we sort of picked up our pace.
My heart was pounding, obviously, because how often is a prime minister, a leader of a G7 country standing with nothing between you, no Terry Guillon to body check you out the way, no RCMP to put handcuffs on you.
How He'll Be Treated Going Forward00:13:20
It was just like this moment, everything started going crazy.
So we get up to him and right when we get within about 20 meters of him, the RCMP stand up and they say, oh, no, we screwed up.
They start running, but they're a fair distance away.
That beach in Tofino is a very long beach.
So we get up to him and then we start getting into it.
I tried to take a selfie with him at the start.
It always reduces the tension.
And it's actually something that I might not be doing in the future because people don't really get the joke.
I do it with Greta Tunberg and Christia Freeland and Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh.
I do it so that when they say, oh, you know, they condemn something that we do or report on, they say, oh, this person is a terrible person.
He's a racist or whatever.
And I can say, oh, but you took a selfie with me.
I just thought it was funny.
But anyways, I'm not going to be doing that anymore.
We started getting into the questions right away.
And I wanted to know.
Or you just got straight to the questions.
No, I asked him for a selfie.
And did he say yes?
No, he said no.
He said he was on vacation, which I was shocked by.
But we cut that out.
And we got into the questions pretty much immediately after that.
And I wanted to know why he wasn't calling a caucus meeting.
That was the main question that we had for him.
Why was he in hiding?
The mainstream media was calling this a vacation, but really it's just sort of a paroguement of his relationship with his caucus.
His caucus are all trying to figure out if they're going to have a job come next October.
They're asking him what he is going to change in order to keep them employed.
And he's refusing.
He says he's having a couple calls, but his caucus is huge.
He needs to have a caucus meeting.
He's refusing to do it.
And we wanted to know why.
Well, that's a very exciting story of you coming in and then finally closing in and the RCMP running.
You posted a very short clip of that first interaction.
I think we've got it here.
Let's take a look of when the RCMP realized something was cooking.
Here, take a look.
Having fun today.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
It's been a beautiful day.
Are you enjoying your time on vacation?
I am.
Yeah.
Do you have a good time on vacation, sir?
I'm happy to speak with you because actually this is the first time we've been able to speak with you because your government is so excited.
That's enough.
That's enough.
And I see that.
There was also a moment where he put his hand on you a bit.
Was that later or before that?
That was before the RCMP arrived.
He put his hand, I started asking him questions.
He put his hand on my chest, which was a little bit strange.
It's something that he does a lot.
You might remember a lot of his interactions with women and men.
He puts his hand on them in a way to control them, to tell them that, no, he's in charge.
Sit down, quit asking questions, quit misbehaving.
I'm running the show here.
It's weird psychology, but it's part of his narcissistic personality.
Yeah, it's a physical dominance thing that he puts his hands on you almost like a police officer puts their hands on you as a show of dominance.
Trudeau did that to you.
You called him immediately and said, don't touch me.
And he, I think that's when he realized that he might be in a sniff of jeopardy from an optical point of view.
And that's when he basically waved off the RCMP and said, all right, I'll give this guy a few minutes.
I want to play another clip of when you and him were walking and talking, but this is another clip you released because this guy who goes to vacations and private resorts in Jamaica on Billionaires Island in the Bahamas, always taking the private jet, took his ex-wife Sophie along on the private jet to Tofina last time, even though they weren't together.
That was weird.
Here's him talking about how hard he works.
Take a look.
And as you know, I work more days a week than the vast majority of Canadians.
You've actually taken hundreds of vacation days last year.
Sorry.
You can do the math.
Glenn McGregor did the math last year, pointed out how many days I work as prime minister.
And it's equivalent of working every single day of the week and Saturday and not taking any day off, not any bank holidays, not two weeks of vacation, nothing.
I work incredibly hard and I get to be dad with my kids with nothing else going on for 10 minutes.
Yeah, your stats that you had on the screen there show it's a lie.
I mean, for months, he didn't even bother going to question period, like 91 days off.
It's just absolutely astonishing.
I think in some ways, that's his style.
Like he's not a policy guy.
And he doesn't delegate to a lot of cabinet ministers.
There's one or two cabinet ministers he lets make decisions, but really it's just staff.
And he said this before.
He said he's more about the relationship and smarter people do the policy stuff.
I think he is sort of lazy.
He probably doesn't think he is, but his entire life, he's had servants and people taking care of his problems.
Like I think in his own mind, he probably does work really hard because he's never actually had.
He's probably, this is probably the hardest he's ever worked because he's never worked hard before.
No, he has no context for what it means to actually work a hard job.
Being a drama teacher where you're there as the celebrity on campus, being a ski instructor, and then moving up to prime minister of the country.
I mean, even his experiences being an MP in opposition, it's not a real job.
He has no idea what it's like to work a job where he's required to actually do some, put some effort into getting some work product.
Nothing in the private sector, nothing that actually gives him any context into what it actually means to work hard.
His staff work really hard.
I mean, their agenda over the last nine years, they've totally altered this country.
But that's not a matter of Justin Trudeau doing it.
It's a matter of his staff being there to push that agenda forward.
Trudeau has been a very small part of it, other than the face of it.
You know, there's one line he said there.
Oh, I work really hard.
Glenn McGregor says so.
Glenn McGregor is one of his pet journalists that he feeds things to give a third-party accounting of just how hard he works.
It was sort of pitiful.
I think the reaction to your interview has been interesting.
My personal reaction was one of excitement because occasionally we do exciting, adventurous journalism like that.
And so I recognized what you must have done to get that scoop.
And I was excited for you and I was a little bit jealous that we didn't do it.
Although I think he would have recognized, you know, no disrespect to you, I think he would have recognized me.
And he would have, he would, I don't think he would have ever have given me 10 minutes as he gave to you.
In fact, I don't think he quite recognized you.
He didn't know who I was.
He didn't.
He thought I was there on vacation for the, he, he, he did not think he was giving an interview to independent media When he told the RCMP to stop, he thought he was speaking to a citizen.
Right.
And I told him, No, I'm with the countersignal.
And then it clicked for him.
He's like, oh, this is for the record.
And no disrespect to the countersignal.
I just don't think he's had that much exposure to it.
Whereas Rebel News, even when you were with Rebel News, one of the clips you showed was when you were arrested, you were with Rebel News.
So I think you sort of slipped under his spidey senses.
And it was very exciting.
I think this shows the divide in Canada between people who value being passive and polite and oh, how dare you interrupt him for 10 minutes when his son is there, as if he's not on vacation all the time, as if he's not a public person in a public place who's doing atrocious public things.
And most importantly, kept you out of the formal mechanisms for accountability.
I think watching even some so-called conservatives chide you for that, I think shows the difference between populist conservatives and sort of establishment influencers who are more interested in, you know, getting an invitation to appear on a CBC panel or getting a Christmas card from Trudeau.
It was very eye-opening to me to see who would criticize you for what I thought was great journalism.
And by the way, I think when Trudeau stopped to give you 10 minutes, I will acknowledge that he not only did that because he knew it would look better, but he did look better.
He didn't look as thin-skinned as he could have.
You know, I thought you put excellent questions to him, but I thought some of his answers were good enough.
I actually thought both sides had a successful interaction.
He should allow himself to be asked real questions more often.
I couldn't agree more.
When you watch him answer even the most slightly prickly question in a press conference, you can see the media training kick in.
He goes dead behind the eyes.
He answers a question that he was never asked.
And it's just a script, the talking points that his chief of staff gave him that morning when he came off of his high from the night before.
So, you know, the response that he gives when he's not in that press conference setting was totally different.
He actually responded to my questions.
I mean, he did lie a little bit, but at least he was talking about the context and the subject matter of each individual question that I asked instead of being asked about, you know, his inability to spend 2% on defense when NATO's asking him to.
And then he starts talking about climate change in the press conference.
It was a different side of Trudeau.
And I think that that caused some folks on the right to scratch their head and be like, wait, we've never seen this before.
This has never happened.
And they kind of thought that it was impossible.
It was a little bit shocking, I think.
And, you know, I was as shocked as the rest of them, honestly.
Yeah.
Well, you've had 10 minutes with him.
And I don't think that he will let you do that again.
I think the next time he, I think he'll recognize you or remember you.
I wonder how he will, he and the RCMP will treat you going forward.
Because in one sense, you had access to him.
You did not abuse it.
You didn't raise your voice, say anything insulting.
You certainly didn't try to put hands on him.
Not that you would, but you comported yourself well.
Your questions were reasonable.
They were not actually, they were not atrocious.
They were not deeply personal questions as one could have asked him.
One could have asked him about many of his personal scandals that he's glossed over over the years, from his blackface to his sexual assault of Rose Knight in Creston, BC.
You stuck to more current controversy.
So it'll be interesting to see how you personally and your organization, the Counter Signal, is treated by the RCMP.
I get the feeling they're going to harden their hearts to you now that they sort of have you on their watch list.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
We're certainly not going to change the questions that we ask in order to get access.
I know that that's what the Global Mail does to survive.
I know that's what the CBC does so that they keep their $1.5 billion budget.
You know, access, we don't, we've proven we don't need the same access that they need.
We will continue to access Justin Trudeau in public places and other politicians of note when they're on a public beach protected by public security.
And when they control the military of a G7 country, they will be held accountable no matter where they are, no matter how many times they try to arrest us for attending a press conference.
We're not going to stop.
And, you know, I would love it if they let me in, but we're not going to start asking easy questions in order to do that.
Well, listen, it's great to catch up with you.
Congratulations, folks.
You can see the entire unredacted video by going to supportthesignal.com and signing up.
There's an offer I signed up just the other day myself.
It's five bucks to get going.
And then I think it's a little more on a monthly basis.
Supportthesignal.com.
And, you know, there's the Counter Signal, there's True North, there's Western Standard, there's Rebel News, there's Epoch Times.
And I think I've just named the only independent journalists in the country.
And I think it's maybe 1% of the manpower of the rest of the media party.
But I put it to you that if your news diet contains the five independent media sources I just listed to you, you will learn more about the world than people who just have their radio knob tuned into the CBC for that unlistenable crap every day.
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Kean, great to see you.
Congratulations.
Look forward to the next caper.
Thanks, Ezra.
It's great to be back on Rebel.
You're doing great work yourself.
Well, thanks very much.
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Mr. Billy says, these pro-Hamas characters go beyond peaceful protests.
The law should apply to everyone equally.
That's exactly right.
The U.S. Constitution talks about peaceful assembly.
We have similar laws in Canada, but the police have a double standard, don't you think?
I mean, compare in Canada the way that pro-Hamas protesters are handled versus the truckers.
And in the States, compare how the vandalism and rioting of yesterday's Netanyahu visit was treated versus the January 6th insurrection.
Let Freedom Rain Honk says, my concern about the Netanyahu visit was the bugs and maggots left by a crazy pro-Hamas.
How did they get in to do that?
And what else could they have done?
You're so right.
That was super gross.
And that is a biohazard, obviously.
And as you know, as has been reported multiple times by different sources, a lot of these protests in North America are funded and directed by Iran.
These are not random ideas.
That is a pretty revved up idea.
That's a biological weapon idea.
And you're right.
If they can do that, what else can they do?
Can they get to Netanyahu's food in the Watergate Hotel?
I thought that was super gross and very troubling.