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July 11, 2024 - Rebel News
01:07:18
EZRA LEVANT | National conservatism is all about borders and citizenship

Ezra Levant critiques Canada’s 600,000-strong temporary foreign workers program, exposing wage suppression and union-friendly shifts from figures like Senator Josh Hawley while questioning NATO expansion’s risks—Finland’s membership potentially dragging Canada into conflict. He highlights systemic fraud in student visas, with institutions like Conestoga College profiting $140M from 30,000 students in fake setups, and protesters demanding PR despite housing strains and $17K/year tuition. Ben Weingarten warns of Islamic immigration’s demographic and ideological threats, citing a 1991 Brotherhood memo and rising anti-Semitism among Muslim immigrants, framing national conservatism’s border focus as essential to preserve Western identity amid unchecked influxes. [Automatically generated summary]

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Brussels Conference Shutdown 00:04:30
What kind of conservatism should we follow for the next decade?
This is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Oh my God, it's a scorcher today.
It's going up to 36 degrees Celsius.
I'm in Washington, D.C. You know, there's a neighborhood here called Foggy Bottom.
It's so steamy that they called it Foggy Bottom.
Thank God for air conditioning.
I'm here because there's a conservative conference called National Conservatism.
And, you know, I don't go to conferences that often.
And if I do, sometimes I don't do any podcasts or TV from them because, you know, it doesn't really lend itself to that medium.
We interview thinkers from time to time.
We always have a guest on the Ezra Levant show, or we almost always do.
But I think this conservative conference is a little bit different.
It's got my noggin jogging a bit.
I'd like to share with you some ideas.
I'm standing in front of the White House because the conference is just a few blocks from here, and I thought I would get out of that hotel room and into the heat.
So let me share with you some of my thoughts.
And I don't know if you're thinking about these things too, but here's what's got me thinking.
Like I say, conferences are good, but they're limited for my purposes.
Sometimes you can get an interesting interview with someone there that you can't normally.
You can encounter new ideas.
You can catch up with old allies.
This conference called National Conservatism, they had a conference in Brussels, Belgium a few months ago that I was thinking of going to.
In the end, I didn't.
But it was absolutely incredible what happened.
So these are fairly mainstream right-wingers like Nigel Farage, Suella Braverman.
Today there were four senators, four U.S. senators on stage together.
Like if you've got four members of the U.S. Senate, whether they're Democrat or Republican, that is establishment.
That is mainstream.
So this National Conservatism Conference is not some wacko extremist thing if you've got that many senators.
But nonetheless, this same group, when it met a few months ago, was in Brussels, Belgium, police actually raided it.
Police tried to shut it down.
There was a prosecutor, just a madman, that tried to shut it down.
Let me show you some of the crazy footage from that.
Top story controversy continues to plague the National Conservative Conservatism Conference in Brussels after attempts were made to shut it down yesterday.
The local mayor is called Emir Kerr and he opposed all that was going on, claiming he issued the order to police to ensure public security.
Well, Nigel Farage was a keynote speaker at the event and he was on stage as police arrived to try and close it down.
The police are outside the door as I speak.
They will not let anybody else in.
There are three police there.
They have an order to close down this event.
And when more police gather, that's exactly what they'll do.
No alternative opinion allowed.
This is the updated new form of communism.
And do you know what?
If anything ever, ever made me think that Brexit was the right thing to do, it's the events here in Brussels today.
Well, the Belgian Prime Minister labelled the moves unacceptable, a sentiment echoed by the British government, who told GB News.
It's unclear exactly what's happened here, but the scenes will worry anyone who believes in free speech.
Free society should be confident enough to allow free debate.
Now, on the whole, the reaction to this around the world has been outrage with the mayor for thinking that he had the right to close down this event.
And there are plenty of Brexiteers who sort of follow what Nigel Farage said yesterday and said that this is a good reason to leave the European Union.
One element of this, which I find quite fascinating, is in the UK we've had such a controversy over the European Court of Human Rights.
But there is an argument, lawyers have been suggesting that some of the conservative MPs who were there, for example, Suella Braverman, who had to stop speaking because of the police turning up, she could potentially sue the Brussels mayor under the rules of the European Court of Human Rights, the organization which she has been so keen for Britain to leave.
So there's all sorts of interesting elements playing out in this saga here.
NATO and Transnational Conservatism 00:08:49
Yeah, who says conferences are boring, eh?
Well, it's that same group that was meeting here today and yesterday in Washington.
So I thought, well, I better come down, although I think it's less likely they'd be raided because America is the land of the First Amendment.
Under this White House, there's no certainty on that.
As you know, they raided Donald Trump's own home in Mar-a-Lago with guns drawn.
I mean, it's insane the weaponization of the government against Trump and his allies.
You have to be careful when you go to a conference in the United States for the reason of the First Amendment, and that there are radical groups that meet all the time with positions that may be shocking, and they're allowed to do it because America is free.
So for being a canuck going down to the U.S. to an ideological conference that talks about things like borders and immigration, you want to be a little bit careful.
And I think I was.
And I want to talk to you about what I think this conference stands for and what we could do with the ideas in Canada.
National conservatism, it sort of sounds obvious, but what is it not?
Well, it's not transnational.
It's not global.
There's a lot of wonderful things that come to us from transnational globalism.
It's so much easier to fly around the world.
It's so much easier to be a tourist.
We can buy and sell things from faraway countries that improve our lives and lower our costs.
There's a big downside to that, but the upside is places like Walmart or Best Buy, where you can get amazing things at amazing prices.
If you look at where they're all made, you'll see made in China.
And so I think transnational conservatism would say anything that's good for the GDP is good.
Anything that reduces the cost to the consumer is good.
But if you're paying a few cents less for something at Best Buy or Walmart, but the job that made it is now in China instead of in Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, you know, Ohio, if you shipped a job overseas and the net benefit to yourself is a few pennies less on your consumer goods, was it worth it?
Transnational conservatives would say, yes, we've got, you know, the consumer is the winner and our GDP is higher.
But a national conservative would say, what price did we pay for that?
A transnational conservative might say, bring in cheap foreign labor to pick our crops and save us a penny for every apple that's picked.
Okay, that's true.
But you're driving down wages in your own community for your own people.
Is it worth it to have an apple for a few cents less?
I think that's one of the differences between transnational conservatism and national conservatism.
In Canada, we see this with the temporary foreign workers program that, first of all, isn't very temporary, but you have hundreds of thousands.
I think the last time I checked, it was 600,000 foreigners in our country working for wages that Canadians cannot bear.
Okay, so your Tim Hortons is a little cheaper and every fast food outlet in Canada is a little bit cheaper.
So we have youth unemployment.
Is that the trade-off?
So your double-double is a few pennies less.
One of the things I heard at this conference was Senator Josh Hawley talking about how he backs unions.
When I was growing up, unions equaled left-wing.
Conservatives equaled capitalist businessmen.
But I'm not sure if that's true anymore.
I just don't think it necessarily equates that the owner of a company is my ally as a conservative.
In fact, I think companies have been some of the most pernicious political actors around.
Another thing that I heard yesterday when I arrived was very interesting.
We talk about NATO.
And if you remember when NATO was formed after the Second World War, some diplomat joked in shorthand saying the whole purpose was to keep the Germans down, the Yanks in, and the Russians out.
Think about that.
It was to protect Europe from a real threat, namely the Soviet Union and the resurgence of Germany that had already started two world wars.
But now NATO is larger than ever.
In fact, by coincidence, NATO is having their meeting in Washington at the same time as this conference.
A whole bunch of new little countries have joined the NATO alliance.
But as was asked yesterday, don't mind me, it's 30 plus degrees out here.
I'm a little hot in my suit.
Is having Finland join NATO really giving us a new ally?
And by us, I don't just mean America, I mean Canada too.
Because Article 5, I believe, of the NATO treaty says an attack on one is equivalent to an attack on all and all have to respond.
So Finland, which for decades has been a tiny neutral country right next to Russia, a country that has historically been invaded by Russia, good people, the Finns, but they gave away decades of neutrality to join NATO.
Now, they're not bringing an awesome Air Force and tanks and other equipment.
They're not going to help us here in Canada.
What they've really done is become a new tripwire.
So that would drag us into a war.
Now, maybe you think that's a good idea, but I'm not sure if that's the original purpose of NATO.
NATO was a defensive alliance.
Keep the Germans down, the Yanks in, and the Russians out.
How does bringing in a ring of new NATO countries around Russia help with that?
So a globalist, transnationalist, expansionist conservative would say, right on, someone else is on our team.
Whereas a nationalist conservative would say, what are we doing tying ourselves in with a bunch of little countries around Russia that may trigger a war?
That's just something I heard at the conference yesterday.
Other things I heard, I went to a panel discussion, as you know, on immigration.
And of course, we know about the driving down the wages and the crime and how more than 30% of all the women who are trafficked across the border are raped.
It's absolutely shocking.
But I forgot about another big player in the cross-border trafficking business, and that is drugs.
Bring in fentanyl that kills tens of thousands of Americans every year.
It might even be higher than that.
And that happens in Canada too, by the way.
So all these issues combined, you can see the difference of opinion between, say, an open borders libertarian approach or a strong borders national conservative approach.
With no borders, you're going to have poverty.
You're going to have social discord.
You're going to have drugs.
If I have to sum up what national conservatism is, I would say it's borders and citizenship.
And I think we're really missing both of those in Canada.
For the longest time, we said Canada had the longest undefended border in the world.
And that's because we're next to the best people, Americans.
We don't need a border.
We're related to them.
We speak the same language as them.
Our culture is the same as them.
Our economies are intertwined.
Our tourism is back and forth.
It's really the same place with a rather imaginary border.
But that's changed.
Not only have tens of thousands of foreign bogus migrants from the states come up to Canada.
Those were typically people that were going to be deported from the states.
They came up to Canada through Wroxham Road.
But some atrocious Canadians have gone into the U.S. to commit nefarious acts.
And that's not new.
You remember the Millennium Bomber wanted to cross from BC and blow up LAX airports on the millennium.
We need a border now and we need to revalue our citizenship.
I think that's what National Conservative means as a political platform.
Reducing immigration to people we choose, not just anyone who is an obviously fake asylum seeker.
Strengthening our military to use to defend ourselves, not for faraway missions.
Social cohesion, not bringing in such masses of people that we destabilize neighborhoods, bring crime waves, and recently Hamas hate marches.
Strengthening borders and citizenship makes it valuable to be a Canadian, not something that's sold off by fake diploma mills that aren't really selling college courses.
Immigration's Impact on the Economy 00:15:44
They're selling roundabout ways to immigrate to Canada.
That's what this 900,000 student visas in Canada are for.
They're not studying chemistry at the University of Guelph.
They're all in these fake colleges studying fake degrees, if they're studying at all.
And in return for spending tens of thousands of dollars for that fake diploma, they get a toehold in Canada.
They basically bring promise that they can immigrate here.
Here's a recent report that our friend Lincoln Jay did.
And here's an additional report by Sarah Stock.
This is who has been entering in our country for just a few thousand bucks.
a look that rules were simple You need to work like six months, then you can apply for your permanent residency.
Rules were changed overnight, and we were not even notified.
We were working in sales sector, food sector, and we are now not even eligible to apply for a nomination.
Right now, I am on the streets of Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island.
Now, the reason I'm here is because immigrant workers have taken to the streets to protest the expiry of their work permits.
Recent change in the government's work permit policy has sparked protests over the past week.
According to the Office of Immigration, the province is prioritizing skilled workers in high demand sectors such as trades and healthcare.
Individuals working in sales and the service sector may not receive invitations to apply for work permits.
The people that have been protesting here are on post-graduate work permits, meaning that they once studied here in Canada and then were permitted to work here for a certain period of time on work permits.
Now, we spent the day talking with locals, talking with the protesters, and just getting a better understanding of what the demands are of the protesters and how the locals feel about the immigrants working here in PEI.
Is it helping the economy?
Is it putting a burden on the economy?
Do the locals care?
Do they not care?
Well, we spoke with them.
We spoke with the protesters, and let me show you exactly what they had to say.
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We were here long before rules were implemented and the reason we are here is because we demand that we need to be grandfathered as we were unaware that this would have happened.
This is the reason why the protest is here.
What would you say to people that claim you guys are just here on a temporary work visa, you don't have the right to stay?
What would you say to those people?
So I would say to those people, why were we deducted the CPP, the Canada pension plan at the very first paycheck?
Why were we deducted the CPP on every paycheck after the first paycheck that we are going to get after 60 years of age?
Education, we spend a lot of money to rent as well.
So we have the right to stay here.
Everyone is working, everyone is paying tax, so everyone has equal and fair rights to show in this country.
We are not trying to oppose the government, we are just trying them to do the fair thing.
If you think it's temporary, then you tell me one thing.
So after six months, you guys just use us, right?
We work for six months, then you say, okay, we cannot give you the PR you need to go.
So it's like use, right?
You just use it to get your work done.
Everybody is targeting that all foreign workers are trying to live here illegally.
They are spreading hate messages.
And this is what we don't stand for.
We don't want nothing for free.
We just want them to be fair with us.
From our perspective, this looks total discrimination.
First of all, we're having a good support from the city people who are living in the Charlottetown in Prince Adelaide Island.
people who are living over here we're having a good support from them there's a lot of good workers here that are filling jobs and it's definitely a good thing keeps the economy going and stuff like that but But it might be a little harder for the average Canadian to get a job now.
That we're putting the run to people who have come here to settle, to have make a life for themselves and their family, and to enrich our society.
To put the run to these people is immoral.
I appreciate what the government might be trying to do, but I don't think that how they did it may have been the best way to do it.
It would make more sense to get people that are skilled to fill positions that we can't fill rather than something that anybody I guess could get a job doing.
If you're going to let the Mexicans or the East Indians or the Asians come here and they're working in a minimum wage in a food restaurant, that does not go well for the country.
It was the government that convinced everybody to please come because they felt there was a shortage in the workforce, that our population was an aging generation, and this is why they opened the doors and now it seems like they're turning back.
Yeah, but I think if you look across the country, other jurisdictions have stopped doing this completely or have followed the lead that we've had and then ratcheted back that certain sector.
As I say, last year in Prince Edward Island, we nominated 855 people for a PR through sales and service.
The year before that, we did roughly the same amount, just a little bit less.
If the industry is doing a relatively good job in terms of retention, that should be a significant number to augment their labor force and to make sure their business is running and being successful.
Immigration remains an incredible strength and force for Canada and for the Canadian economy.
Being able to welcome in people from around the world, particularly at this time of labor shortages, is good for our country and good for the future that we're building together.
Look, international students are a credit to this country, Mr. Speaker.
are the future of this country and they are an asset that is very lucrative.
I came to Canada as a foreign student from India many years ago, back when this country was a much different and nicer place.
I'm here to speak out against what is happening.
As requested, we have hidden the identity of the man interviewed in this section of the report.
This is not the first time he has spoken out, and he feels it is necessary to bring awareness to this situation.
So what exactly is the purpose of so many people coming to Canada on these student visas?
It is best explained here with this immigration flyer.
It says that you come here as a student.
Once you establish yourself here, you bring your entire family over and then get use of all the social services that Canada offers.
They see the loopholes that our incompetent government has created and they have abused it full throttle.
But just last month, the teachers at Conestoga College were complaining that these kids are actually illiterate.
They can't read, write, they don't know basic arithmetic.
The loopholes here are many, such as attending a shady college and not even attending.
There's a couple of colleges that the Globe and Mail investigated and they didn't even have classrooms in them, but they had places to process your immigration file.
Some of these colleges are even owned by immigration consultants.
While most of us are suffering in this really poor economy, there's a section of the society which is becoming rich off of these loopholes.
It's not even about permanent residency.
Canada's reputation for being such a soft country has gone global.
And everybody knows that the minute you step foot in Canada, the odds of you being sent home are almost zero.
So forget about permanent residency.
The idea is just to get into Canada.
And if you have children here, they become Canadian citizens.
PEI was chosen, just like the prairie provinces, came up with very short-sighted policies that allow people to work at restaurants or hotels and things like that.
And they could just work there for six months and then qualify for permanent residence after they get their PR.
Most of them will come back here because this is where they thrive in this corrupt Gotham city.
We are just seeing the fruits of many years of bad policy.
We've attracted newcomers who bring important skills and the know-how to create jobs and grow our economy.
But now the scale of it is so large and now none of our children can find jobs this summer.
Can anyone explain to me why the f is so hard to get a job in Toronto?
Many people have immigrated to Canada recently and realized one of the quickest ways to get money and power is to become an immigration agent.
And you can see these immigration agents online are coaching students on how to apply as refugees and also how to get politically active.
When 700 students were caught with fraudulent papers, the government ordered them to be deported, but they started protesting by the airport and they brought in religious music as if to say this is some religious struggle.
And Canadians who are so scared of their own shadows just gave in.
You saw all the politicians come out, even Pierre Polyware, telling these students who came here on a lie that we need workers, we need more young people.
Listen, we have a worker shortage in Canada.
We have a demographic problem.
Our population is too old.
We need 700 young people.
And there's one immigration agent in particular who's been very vocal on social media and he's fanning the flames.
You see kids in Manitoba using this sort of religious messaging around their expiring work permits.
And they cornered this Liberal MP who promised to do everything for them.
This is the same MP who was just being so mean to Canadians before.
Thank goodness it was that Canadians and the majority of the people in the house saw the value of protecting the health and well-being of Canadians and that the far right was marginalized back then, Manasseh.
And this is how he speaks to these students.
He was cornered here like a rat.
We want you to be able to stay in Canada.
We can't promise you anything other than we will promise to work as hard as we can, whether it's myself or Malaya, in trying to keep you here in Antwerp.
And then he asked Mark Miller to extend all their visas.
They saw what happened in Manitoba.
The immigration agents are celebrating it online and now they're protesting all over the country.
When I came here as a student, it was not just to get an education, but to put yourself outside your comfort zone and sink or swim.
Even established colleges and universities like Conestoga College and Kitchener have traded in their future and their reputation for short-term gains.
Conestoga made $140 million on tuition in the last 16 months.
You know how many international students they brought in?
Conestoga's got like two campuses, right?
They're like the size of this building, you know?
They're not huge colleges.
30,000 they brought in in 16 months.
Now we have politicians like Tim Opal saying that the language requirement might go away.
What has happened?
What has happened to our dear country?
Just look at him here with Pierre Poliver speaking Punjabi.
They do have the right to stay in Canada until the last day of their visa.
There's a reason why the visas expire because circumstances change and our government has all the authority to make those changes based on new developments in the economy or new circumstances.
Nobody's promised them anything.
There's no combination of words in any language I speak that can get through to a person like Trudeau.
Does he want to be responsible for a country where women are not safe at night or on a bus or in an elevator or on a train?
This is a reality that all the women in my family experienced in India in crowded situations.
And now we're seeing it in Canada.
If he was born in Pakistan or he came from Pakistan, you must have been kidnapped by him.
You've been kidnapped by you?
Of course.
A lot of people are trying to figure out why this immigration rate is so high.
For 2024, the cap is expected to result in approximately 364,000 approved study permits.
People new to the country are promised everything in exchange for votes.
McLean's magazine reported on how Mark Miller got a seat.
He just gave people free Liberal Party memberships to get a seat.
And this is what they're doing to the whole country.
They're just bringing people and putting them in different ridings to flip them.
Whether it's international students in particular that have grown at a rate far beyond what Canada has been able to absorb.
If they don't fulfill any of the demands, there will be a hunger strike to death from 1st of June.
And anything happened to any health issues to any of the protestants.
Honourable Justin Crudeau, Mr. Mark Miller, Province of PEI, Honorable Dennis King, and Economic Growth Minister Jen Redman should be held reliable to owe any loss and severe health issues to any of the protestants affected for Zoom.
Thank you.
We don't put the run to people so that you and your generation can get an apartment.
This is a country of opportunity, but it's not a country where immigrants should get sitting in a McDonald's or Tim Hortons or any other fast food or a convenience store or a gas station.
We are paying equal taxes, so what we demand, we just demand equal rights.
We are just not demanding something for free.
We demand fear.
You know, a snowflake is pretty powerless by itself.
It'll just melt the minute it lands in your palm.
But millions and billions of snowflakes are responsible for the avalanche.
I need more snowflakes to speak up.
we need to cause an avalanche registered canadian immigration consultant canwar sierra stated to me via email that postgraduate work permit holders should refrain from engaging in political activism and that protests are not a viable
Assimilation and Integration Challenges 00:14:52
Like our parents, like if we did that, like it's disrespectful, like you know, to like Canadians, we'd think in our head, I don't know, like the stuff I see, they don't even care.
Because if I were to immigrate to another country, I would try to fit in, I would try to assimilate to that culture, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think they were not promised anything.
So I think the protest is, what do I say, worthless.
Before coming here, they should plan that what kind of study they want to do so that they can be secure in future.
Like personally, I am doing police course in this college.
So I'm secure.
I can get a job in the police line.
A lot of immigration consultants just want to make money.
So that's why they lure students by giving these kind of advertisements that we can get into PIA with study and all these kind of stuff.
Sarah Stock from Rebel News in Brampton, Ontario, where just last weekend, international students were protesting with demands to have work permits extended.
They're demanding to extend work permits of those who are expiring next year and to have postgraduate work permits extended from three years to five years.
Let's go talk to some Brampton locals and find out if they agree with these international students that they have a right to stay in Canada.
Let's also talk to some of the students themselves and find out what promises were made to them and who was selling them these lies that guaranteed them that they would stay in Canada indefinitely.
Do you agree with us about the work permits?
I think so.
It should get extended because, you know, Muslims come here and they need, I think, a bit more time to explore about their careers.
I think it's better if they get three years work permit rather than two.
So I think it's better.
First of all, I think they should be closing the doors here in Canada because we're letting far too many people in here.
There's a very large influx of people in Brampton right now.
So I mean, we can only handle so much.
If they say they should not be allowed, they shouldn't be in here before too, right?
So when they allow them to come in here, they should give them everything, whatever they're.
Well, they were allowed to come for a certain amount of time and then that time ended, right?
It's like if I were to go to a different country, you can't always just stay forever.
Sometimes you have a temporary visa.
It is like people coming from India, like from South Asia, like different countries, they are coming here for a good future.
They say like they're coming here for studies and then they wanted to come become a permanent resident here.
And all the students, even people working for us too, they are contributing to everything to the country.
It's bad for everyone, like it's harder for everyone to get jobs, housing, everything, but it's the government, you know, like they do it on purpose.
They bring them all here because they make the prices very high.
Like the government makes a lot of money.
If you check like a college fee, like a semester I checked, for me it was $2,000.
For international students, it was $17,000.
Many fear that these unprecedented levels of immigration are simply unsustainable as Canada is already experiencing a housing crisis and many are struggling to find jobs.
It also seems like many foreigners are becoming students not just to study but in order to get a postgraduate work permits and eventually permanent residency.
Everybody come here for a better life.
Most of the people come here to do their studies but after that they change their mind after staying here that they want to get the permanent residency and citizenship.
One person brings four or five people in and usually like when you are a student you have you do these small jobs like you know helping hand and here and there but all those jobs were taken by the visitors.
What is the government going to do?
We're just waiting around.
They need to do their job but they're not doing their job.
We're in a corrupt system I believe.
They're not coming here just for visiting and then go back.
People come here to settle and this government knows about it.
People are coming here to settle down here.
But I know a lot of people that come here they don't even have their studies ready and like I talked to a couple of them and they're like oh like their studies are not ready they just live with a lot of people like it's hard it's hard for them too.
Like you know my parents were immigrants too.
They came to this country like a while back.
Like obviously it wasn't this much but they got used they adapted to like the Canadian culture like you know they didn't do too much.
Like the stuff I see today it's like I don't know they don't really adapt to the culture.
The truth is many of these international students were sold the dream by immigration consultants that all they have to do is enroll as a student to come to Canada and they will be on the path to citizenship.
They were told they would be able to bring their families over to Canada as well to live their best life in the great white north.
Now somebody is profiting off the scam but it isn't always international students.
Seems like they may have been sold some promises that weren't kept.
Turns out Canadian citizens are paying the price for this immigration scandal.
I know the education institutions that they're all fake.
There's like one room is not how can you call this a college?
This was happening in front of everybody's eyes.
We know it was going one day it's going to happen.
But nobody stopped them that time.
A lot of people are concerned about housing and the availability of all these new people coming in and also about a lack of jobs.
Do you see that as a concern?
Yes, that is basically I think the main concern right now here is like the housing and their lack of jobs, of job opportunities for people.
International students are coming here and they can't work, they can't provide for themselves.
I think that's a really big issue currently.
The thing is, well I think that Mr. Trudeau needs to get out of power.
Who do you want to be in power and such?
I just want the government to change completely.
You know there are no jobs, there's no housing, you know.
So the government should have decided this one before.
Now they are just saying oh we don't want these guys here.
You know they should go back.
So the problem is they let in too many people.
They let too many people become students.
Now it's not good for the students have to go home but also it's bad for a lot of the Canadians living here too because now there's not as many jobs, there's no housing.
Money they're gonna spend on them to send them back, it's gonna be way too much.
You know, like if they're saying, Okay, we're gonna, nobody's gonna go like this, okay, you go.
Like our parents, like if we did that, like it's disrespectful, like you know, like Canadians we think in our head.
I don't know, like the stuff I see, they don't even care.
Because if I were to immigrate to another country, I would try to fit in, I would try to assimilate to that culture, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's what we were me and my friends are talking about, too.
We're like, we try to adapt, you know, respect other people's culture, but I see other people adapting to theirs now.
It's crazy, but it is what it is, you know?
You know, they should stop these people who are coming now.
That's the first thing they should do, not with the people who are already here for four or five years and they have contributed too much to the society, to the you know, to the country.
But I think now, after five years, you say, okay, we're gonna kick you and go out.
That's something unfair.
So, we spoke to some locals in downtown Brampton, and now we're at Sheridan College to see what the international students themselves have to say.
I think it's important for students as they give three or four years of their life to this country, and also they spend a hefty amount of money.
So, I think they should protest, and the government should also listen to them.
This thing should be done for them because they are working hard a lot over here when they are coming on the work permit.
After that, they are working a lot over here.
And I just want them to be given the chance to stay over here so that they can perform well, they can have a little bit more work to be done.
I'm worried that how can I extend my work permit.
So, there are a lot of other options, such as alum I.
So, I will try to focus on getting aluminium immediately after.
I will nearby in the work permit expiration.
So, I want to say, government have to do something for international students because they are doing for refugees.
But they are not taking concern of international students.
I think they were not promised anything.
So, I think the protest is what do I say, worthless.
Yeah.
So, you study, you do your thing for three years, which the work permit they get.
And after that, if the country needs you, like if you are in healthcare or if you're in trade, if the country needs you, they'll take you in.
If it does not, time to go home.
That's what are we doing?
Yeah, because it's what's best for Canada too, right?
It's for the people who live here, too, right?
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
And we can't force our opinions, our beliefs, we can't force what we want on the government.
So, I think it is what it is, that's all.
Do you think they have the right though?
When a lot of these people are saying, oh, we have the right to stay here, but they were never really promised by the government that they can stay.
They were just told you can study here, right?
But I don't think so.
That giving work permit guarantees you a PR.
So, they are only asking for a work permit, not a PR.
What do you think about a lot of people are saying we have a housing crisis right now?
There's not many jobs, so that's why they're saying it's so hard to have so many people stay, right?
I think so.
Maybe the government can play some role for this one so that they can give some work for them to be done over here.
Maybe because of this thing, they can get some work.
Maybe the government can help for this.
Before coming here, they should plan that what kind of study they want to do so that they can be secure in future.
Like, personally, I am doing a police course in this college, so I'm secure.
I can get a job in the police line.
So, I'm very much concentrated on my study.
So yeah, they have to plan before they came here so that they can achieve their goal and get more work opportunities.
Why should people be able to stay, but there's not going to be a job for them because we already have enough people to fill their job, those jobs.
I don't have much to say about that.
You don't know?
No.
I think that government also is taking a good decision if they don't extend the time period as housing crisis and job crisis are at its peak at the moment.
So I think both the values are appreciated.
You see both sides of the situation.
Something I've been hearing is a lot of these students were told by immigration agents and people like that or by the colleges that if you come study here, you will get to stay here forever.
Do you think, is that true?
Do you think people are being told that?
Yeah, I think that because a lot of immigration consultants just want to make money.
So that's why they lure students by giving these kind of advertisements that we can get into UPR with study and all these kind of stuff.
And many students come here for that purpose only.
Yeah, it's absolutely atrocious that these hucksters and hustlers are selling, de facto, selling Canadian citizenship for 10 or 20 grand.
They've become millionaires, but they have choked our country with people who we did not choose to bring here.
I think that we have to go back to the traditional definition of immigration, which is bringing people into Canada that we choose for our benefit, that we can properly absorb and integrate and assimilate.
And we've been doing that, by the way, for decades.
It's only in the last 15 years that immigration has raced and only in the last three years that Trudeau has quadrupled it.
One of the things I still want to learn, I'm going to head back to the conference now, it's just so hot outside, is how do you talk about borders and citizenship and immigration without being called racist?
It's not racist to have a happy homeland.
France for French people, Italy for Italians, the Poles, the Poland, Hungary is full of Hungarians.
Should Canada not be Canadian in nature?
Should America not be American in character?
It doesn't mean you can't come here from another place.
But if you bring in such vast numbers of people with foreign ideas and don't integrate them and assimilate them, don't be surprised if your own country changes.
I want to learn a few more things before I depart.
I want to learn how to not be afraid to talk about these things.
I mean, I'm not particularly afraid, but how do we give ordinary Canadians courage to talk about immigration and citizenship and borders without being called racist?
How do we fix the problem?
It's like we have a bathtub that's overflowing.
I think step one is you have to turn off the tap and then figure out how to empty the drain.
I think the most terrifying thing that will come is what we're starting to see in the UK.
Ethnic enclaves of people who have come over to the UK, some of them decades ago, who simply have not been asked to and have chosen not to become British.
In the last election, as you know, there were five districts that voted for independent MPs, Jeremy Corbyn, and four Muslim Brits who ran on a Muslim platform, who ran with Gaza as the centerpiece of their campaign.
Not as one of a dozen issues.
I mean, it's legitimate to have an opinion on Gaza.
Of course it is.
But when the only issue you talk about and the only flag you fly is Gaza and you only campaign on Muslim issues because you have an enclave of 30 or 40% Muslims, that is not Britain anymore.
That is colonization.
One of the arguments against the West is that the West has been colonial.
The West has been imperial.
That doesn't really work on Canada.
We didn't have slaves.
We don't have a dirty reputation we need to launder.
I would put it to you that neither do America or the UK either, by the way.
Both countries have done more than anyone else to abolish slavery, which still exists in Africa and the Middle East and Asia.
But if you really want to apply that Marxist lens of colonization, it's Canada that is now being colonized by foreign people, as the UK is.
Anyways, it's getting just absolutely hot and scorching out here.
Israel And Its Ancestral Home 00:03:23
I think I'm going to go back inside, but I wanted to share with you these thoughts and hopefully we'll grab a few more interviews today.
We're back in the conference.
Oh my God, it was so hot.
I had to change my shirt.
I was soaked through.
I don't know how anyone works in this kind of heat and humidity in the summer.
Maybe it's a shame that air conditioning was invented because if it was that atrocious, the politicians would never gather.
Again, I think one of the big focuses of national conservatism is immigration.
I mean, isn't that really one of the definitions of a country?
Do you have a border?
Do you have a nationality?
You're not just a hotel room.
Here's an excerpt from a panel on Islamic immigration.
And then I have a sit-down with the speaker, Ben Weingarten.
So take a look at this from earlier today.
So my question to you is, why do Jews get to be the only religious group to have a state that was taken from Palestinian Muslims in the entire world?
And if it is such a legitimate state, then why has it not gotten along with its neighbors like legitimate states do for the past 60 years to the point where even America under President Trump tried to initiate peace and it didn't work?
And it still hasn't worked.
So why?
Thank you.
Well, first, I guess thank you for nominating me the unilateral speaker for Jewry Worldwide.
I appreciate that.
Hard to know where to begin here, except to say that Israel has been the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people since time immemorial.
There's been a constant presence of Jewry there.
Jews didn't seize Israel by force, as you're sort of suggesting, I think, in your question.
By international law, which Eugene can speak to, Jewry has a claim to Israel, in part backed by that historical basis, as well as the fact that, of course, there's been a constant presence there.
Palestinian Arabs were not forced off of the land, which was, again, by international law sanctioned to be Israeli land.
Many of them voluntarily left because the surrounding nations said, leave your homes and after we will slaughter the Jewry there.
And in fact, when you talk about the hostility, I guess, of Israel towards its neighbors, Israel has been repeatedly attacked from all sides.
A New Jersey-sized state for a minority population in the world in a city of well over a billion people who overwhelmingly, according to polls today and historically has been the case, hate Jewry and wish to see it destroyed, who cannot tolerate there being, who basically want there to be a Junenrim Middle East altogether.
So I think you get the question backwards, frankly, and the notion that somehow it is the Jews who are the supremacists because they want to live in the state which is their birthright.
I find it to be farcical and perverse.
Well, that was Ben's answer.
Islamic Supremacists' Growth Industry 00:11:53
I had a sit-down with him.
Here's how that went.
A lot of smart people here, a lot of thinkers and scholars who are trying to take their ideas into practice.
It's no surprise that we bumped into our old friend Ben Weingarten here.
You might remember Ben from a dozen appearances on the Ezra LeBanch Show, including a very long and heartbreaking night on election 2020 when Ben stayed up into the wee hours with us on our live coverage.
Ben, of course, is a writer for the Federalist and with Newsweek.
Great to see you here again in person.
And I'm so glad you were on a panel.
Can you sum up a little bit about the case that you made to the crowd today?
Yeah, so this panel was on Israel, Islam, and the West.
And I was tasked with talking about the Islamic supremacist challenge to America.
And I sort of walked through what the Muslim Brotherhood in America laid out as their ultimate goal for this country 30 years ago.
And then all the things America has done, in part under the influence of brotherhood-aligned entities, individuals, and nations to essentially help the Islamic supremacists here achieve their goals.
And I concluded with the question of when you look at the litany of policies that have ultimately seen us give up our liberties, undermine ourselves domestically and across the world, and at the very least under two administrations, the Obama-Biden administration and now the Biden-Harris administration, elevate Sunni and Shia Islamic supremacists alike.
Who is more responsible or to whom do we ultimately attribute it?
Is it progressives who have a worldview which believes in appeasing our adversaries, which is desirous of and has opened our borders and which is politically ambitious and sees a growing Muslim population through immigration and otherwise,
irrespective of the Jew hatred that is disproportionate among that population, the tolerance that population has, if not support for Hamas's Holocaust in a day executed on October 7th?
Are we more to blame the progressives at the end of the day?
Or is it the Islamic supremacists who have taken advantage of our gullibility, our tolerance, our openness, our greed, our naivete?
And I closed by referencing this Muslim Brotherhood memorandum from 1991, where they said that the goal here was a civilization jihadist process where they wanted to curse and sabotage America by our hands, Americans' hands, and by the hands of the believers, that is, the Muslim Brotherhood and their allies.
And so I would argue that we have sabotaged our own miserable house as laid out in that memorandum, but without a helping hand from the believers as well.
That's very interesting.
First of all, I think that's the key focus.
I mean, what happens overseas militarily, diplomatically, that's hard for, I think, most Canadians and Americans to focus on.
I don't know how much difference we can make, how much of those decisions are within our hands.
But so many things that are happening day to day, for example, in my city, Toronto, the pro-Hamas encampment at the University of Toronto, the weekly Hamas hate marches, the toleration of crazy calls for genocide and proximate violence, not just an abstract call for genocide, but I will kill you.
the shooting of a Jewish day school in Toronto.
That's much more acute to me is the danger here in North America, the danger I think that comes for Jews first, but Christians very close second.
Let me ask you this.
How much of the rot in our institutions, like universities, can be traced to funding by Qatar and other malign actors like that?
Because it's astonishing to me to see that universities that have been so synonymous with liberalism and even with Jews, Harvard, Columbia, are atrociously pro-Hamas.
How did that happen?
Well, part of it is this unholy alliance, which was really the subject of my remarks between the progressive left on the one hand and Islamic supremacists on the other.
And you could almost see this personified going back to Yasser Arafat, who was Soviet-backed.
I mean, he was essentially a KGB agent.
And the Soviet Union felt that they could inculcate in and foment Jew hatred in the Islamic world as part and parcel of a broader project to attack the Judeo-Christian West at the end of the day.
And we've had on our campuses now for decades this view.
Edward Saeed is also another thinker here from Columbia who well represents this view, that there's this dialectical.
There's the oppressor and the oppressed.
And that is a narrative that is potent among the leftists who use that to justify essentially knocking America down as many pegs as necessary and elevating our worst adversaries as a matter of equity.
Somehow they've come up with the perverse view that of all the oppressors in the hierarchy, it's Ashkenazi Jews who were slaughtered during the Holocaust that are the most oppressive of them all.
And this plays right in, of course, to the Islamic supremacist worldview and also exploitation of the Western mind virus of leftism, which says that the West has oppressed the Muslim world.
And so we're getting our just come up ins essentially with jihad.
And also, of course, there's the peaceful and there's a non-peaceful undermining and subverting of our societies.
To your point about the institutions and specifically the colleges and what is the link beyond the left-wing ideology that has prevailed in these schools for decades, beyond the Middle East studies departments, which have always been cauldrons of and hotbeds for genocidal jihadism, Islamic supremacism, oftentimes with funding from those nations.
It's staggering if you look, and schools have not fully disclosed all of their foreign funding and they've used ways around the disclosures that they ought to make.
Of all the nations that have contributed, foreign nations that have contributed funds to American universities really in the last 20 years, it's not China that's number one.
It's Qatar.
And Qatar has contributed billions of dollars and they're not alone to our universities.
They have partnerships with several universities, research and exchange programs.
There's also an article that I commend everyone to read in Tablet, which talks about foreign student populations in these universities.
And if you look at the quote-unquote most elite schools, you have massive percentages of foreign students in these schools, many of them from Muslim-majority countries and in fact sponsored by them.
This is a cash cow for the universities.
Foreign funding, irrespective of the nations that it comes from.
And then foreign students who will pay full freight.
So this is, there's a greed aspect to this within the schools.
And then there's the ideological aspect of they actually agree with the anti-Judeo-Christian Western civilizational values that are tied to the funds and the students that they're receiving.
Man, it's insane in Canada.
There are 900,000 foreign students.
We're one-tenth the size of America.
Imagine if there were 9 million foreign students in America.
That's more, 900,000 is more than the Canadian students.
And obviously they're fake.
It's just, it's political.
It's an immigration hack.
I want to ask you one last thing.
I appreciate your time.
I was just in the UK on their election day, and Nigel Farage has made immigration a key issue for his newfound reform party.
They got 4 million votes in really their first real effort, even though they only got five seats out of it.
But you know who else also got five seats?
Independent candidates running under the Gaza or Palestinian flag.
One was Jeremy Corbyn, the hardcore left-wing former labor leader.
But the other four were British Muslims.
I think they were all Pakistani.
I'm not sure.
And their campaign videos are just startling.
No union jack, of course.
The Palestinian flag talking about Gaza, calling out, you know, depending on the individual candidate, the way they call for genocide is more or less.
These are in Muslim pockets where the population is up to 40% Muslim.
These were in seats that used to be held by the Labor Party, and the Labor Party Muslim MPs were not hardcore enough.
So imagine, I mean, it's so rare that independents win.
The system is not set up for that.
I fear that there'll be 15 or 20 of those independent candidates next time.
But more to the point that Labor will do everything it can to absorb those voters, to bring them back into tent and win.
And I see that as a prognostication for Canada five or 10 years from now and for America, too.
I'm really worried about that.
And because I don't think these newcomers from those countries, I don't think they're susceptible to debate or persuasion.
I think they come over with a Klan loyalty and an ideology.
They don't care about, you know, they're not going to Columbia University and listening about Marxist critiques of race or whatever.
They just hate the West and hate Jews, and they can't believe they're allowed to vote people into power.
I'm scared with what I saw in the UK, and I think it's coming to North America.
What you're speaking to about the newcomers in these countries is illustrated in the polls, and it also reflects the countries from which they came in the first place.
And so the question you have to ask Western leaders, Western governments is, you know, there's a phrase, there's a cliche, personnel is policy.
But people dictate the nation at the end of the day.
Nations are landmasses, but it's the people who animate them and the values and principles that they hold that give life to them.
And if you en masse bring in through mass migration people who hold values and principles that are inimical to our own, what do we expect is going to happen?
And I think you're absolutely right.
Look to France, look to the UK, look to other nations that have permitted mass unchecked Islamic immigration for what is to come here.
And the simple question you have to ask is, to what extent are the leaders making policies reflective of the populations, the constituencies that they represent?
And to your point about essentially the labor leftists in the UK, this is why I wrote my book on Ilhan Omar, American Ingrade in America.
It was a quarry on call to say, we're going to get many more Ilhan Omars, and the party itself is going to be in hockey to this group.
And as I said during my remarks today, the Muslim population in America is set to surpass the Jewish population by 2040 to make Muslims the second largest religious group in this country.
And by 2050, it's expected to more than double to 8 million.
If you look at what the views are of the Muslim population that is already here, disproportionately anti-Semitic, disproportionately pro-Hamas relative to the natives, look no further than the uncommitted vote in Minnesota and Michigan to see what our future looks like.
And the progressives have already kow-towed to this group.
They see Muslim votes as a growth industry.
Muslims have typically voted two-thirds Democrats in this country.
I expect the same phenomenon here, but to your last point about the counterweight here or the sort of counter-revolutionary spirit in these countries, people know that there's something wrong with immigration.
There's a reason that immigration was the number one animating issue for the MAGA base in America in 2016.
I think this is the root issue at the heart of the populist, nationalist, conservative movements writ large across the world.
Addressing Modern Civil Wars 00:04:30
And at the end of the day, this is kind of the battle for our time.
What kind of people do we want to be?
What kind of nations do we want to have?
Or are we going to sacrifice our nations?
Ben, it's great to catch up with you and hearing your predictions of 2040 and 2050.
We're in Canada.
We are well past that now on a proportionate basis.
It's terrifying.
And you can see the results on our streets.
Well, there you have it, Ben Weingarten, catching up with us here at the National Conservatism Convention.
By the way, when I was out and about in the heat, I decided to go to the Lincoln Memorial, which is very powerful.
And, you know, I think one of the most powerful things is reading the inscriptions on the walls in there.
On the one side was his very famous first inaugural address four score and seven years ago.
You probably know that phrase.
But on the other, and that was what he wrote when war clouds were gathering.
But on the other side was a terribly sad and ominous inaugural address about the war that had been underway.
Here's what I saw and said earlier today in the heat of the day.
On the other side of the Lincoln Memorial is Abe Lincoln's more famous inaugural address.
You probably know the first sentence, even if you don't know what it is.
Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth onto this continent a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
That's actually about 10% of it right there.
It's very short.
But the second inaugural address by Lincoln is on the wall behind me.
And it's too long for me to read here, but I'll put a link to the whole thing below this video.
I am going to read the third, the last third of it.
The first two is basically Lincoln talking about how the war came, how both sides didn't want it, how slavery was one of the reasons.
But let me now read the last third, which gives me chills even on this sweltering summer day.
This is the chilling part.
Yet if God wills that it continue, that is the war, that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's 250 years of unrequited toil shall be sunk and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said 3,000 years ago.
So still it must be said the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.
And I think the most terrifying part of that is Lincoln's statement that this civil war will bleed as much as any slave who was hit by the lash.
And this civil war will cost as much as any wealth piled up by slavery.
And I think it's true.
And he has a biblical resonance there.
He says that's God's will.
And indeed it was.
Did you know that the U.S. Civil War, which killed more than 600,000 Americans, was the most bloody war of all that the U.S. ever fought, more than the Revolutionary War, more than World War I, World War II, Vietnam combined?
And I say this, and I came here because the United States is the only country that had such a civil war in part to end slavery.
And the British Empire before it is the only empire in the world that went to such lengths to end slavery, not only by buying the redemption of every slave in the empire, but for 50 years, dispatching the Royal Navy to intercept slave trading ships from West Africa to the Americas.
In fact, they captured hundreds of those ships and fleed and rescued rather hundreds of thousands of slaves.
Every continent in the world except Antarctica has known slavery.
Alexa's International Week 00:03:32
There was slavery in the Americas before Europeans came here.
There was slavery in Europe and Asia.
There still is.
Africa and the Middle East, there still is.
I come here to read what Abraham Lincoln said about America's willingness to pay a price in blood and treasure to end the scourge of slavery.
Show me another place in the world that can say that.
Well, that's our show from here in Washington.
We're going to wrap up here.
I'm glad I came.
I'm sort of thinking through things with you out loud.
I haven't fully digested everything I've heard here today.
I think it's been an international week for me intellectually.
I was on July 4th.
I was in the UK for the election where Nigel Farage's Reform Party broke through on the issue of immigration.
I saw Islamic sectarianism where five MPs were elected just on the Gaza issue.
I also, in the town of Clacton, that voted for Nigel Farage saw people afraid to even say they were voting for him or why.
Then we sent our reporter Alexa Lavoine, our videographer, Guillaume Roy, to Paris, where France was having an election on July 7th, the runoff on their national elections.
And immigration was at the heart of that too.
Here's just a quick hit from Alexa.
If you haven't watched her stuff, you can see it at Franceonfire.com.
Here's a taste of what she saw.
And then I wrap up.
I tell you, you're going around the capitals of the world from London to Paris.
And here we are in Washington at this gathering of people, many from Europe, to talk about what national conservatism means.
And if I had to answer that question now without thinking further about it, I would say it's to recapture the essence of a nation being a place where you have citizenship and borders and national identity and pride, not just people who bought a fake student visa from a diploma mill and now want to move to the country.
I think we have to get a lot more serious about immigration in Canada.
And I'm worried that we're late to the game and Trudeau has done an incalculable amount of damage.
And let's be honest, Stephen Harper before him did too.
That's our show for today.
Until next time, on behalf of all of us at Rebel News, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
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