Sheila Gunn-Reid and Robbie Picard condemn Justin Trudeau’s Bill C-59, a last-minute amendment backed by the NDP, Bloc Québécois, and Liberals, which outlaws oil industry advocacy under the Competition Act, risking fines for factual claims like Canada’s 1.5% global emissions. Alberta Premier Daniel Smith threatened legal action, while groups like Oil Sands Strong retreated, calling Trudeau’s policies dictatorial. Gunn-Reid and Picard warn of economic harm—jobs lost to Saudi Arabia—and urge support for free speech via GoFundMe, social media, and defending Tommy Robinson’s contested arrest in Calgary, framing Trudeau’s crackdown as a threat to national unity and cultural identity. [Automatically generated summary]
Justin Trudeau's latest piece of censorship legislation outlaws talking favorably about Alberta's oil and gas sector.
I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
You know,
I really should say you're watching The Gunn Show for now because Justin Trudeau might censor my show because a lot of the things I talk about on this show are the wonders of Canadian oil and gas, specifically Alberta's oil and gas.
but you know, we love our friends in Saskatchewan and in northern British Columbia.
And I talk about how wonderful and convenient and life-saving fossil fuels are.
And yet, Justin Trudeau's latest piece of censorship legislation, you might not have heard about, Bill C-59, outlaws advocacy for Canada's oil and gas, making it false advertising under the Competition Act.
And this is not the first time these people have used the Competition Act to shut up their critics.
Some of you might remember when environmentalist radicals complained to the Competition Bureau about our friends at Friends of Science over a billboard they put up saying that it was false advertising.
You know what the billboard said?
The main driver of climate change might be that burning ball of gas in the sky we call the sun.
The people on the other side said that's false advertising and dragged our friends at Friends of Science through the process of a complaint because as you know the process is the punishment.
Now in Alberta our Premier Daniel Smith has threatened to invoke the Sovereignty Act to fight back against Justin Trudeau's limits on the things that we can say about Canada's oil and gas sector.
For their part, the industry has somewhat capitulated to this.
The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers has scrubbed their internet presence and the Pathways Alliance has taken down their internet presence and put up something new.
It's a statement saying there will be no more statements thanks to Justin Trudeau's Bill C-59.
I want to read you an op-ed written by Rebecca Schultz, Alberta's Minister of Environment, about what Alberta plans to do about C-59 and why the Alberta government objects to it so much.
Here we go.
In February, federal NDP Charlie Angus introduced a bill that threatened fines and jail time for Canada's oil and gas industry if they tried to defend their record on the environment.
Canadians were immediately outraged and the bill was laughed away as just plain crazy.
A few months later, through last-minute amendments to C-59, MP Charlie Angus has managed to sneak his bill in through the back door.
Supported by the federal Block Québécois, NDP and the Liberals, the bill will clear the way for environmental activists to sue oil and gas companies over misleading environmental benefits.
Environmental activists will be able to bring claims against oil and gas companies under so-called anti-greenwashing provisions.
Companies that wish to defend their environmental record will have to prove that their claims can be substantiated by an internationally recognized methodology, a vague and undefined phrase that creates needless uncertainty for businesses.
Any company not willing to risk millions of dollars in fines and legal fees will be forced to stay silent.
And that is exactly the outcome that Minister of Environment and Climate Change Stephen Gilbo and the federal liberal NDP Block Québecois alliance wants to happen.
C-59 is currently in third reading in the House of Commons and may pass as early as this week.
After that, it will head to the liberal-dominated Senate where it will be rubber stabbed.
C-59, put plain and simply, is an undemocratic gag order.
It must be stopped.
Minister of Environment and Protected Areas, Rebecca Schultz.
Now, because this bill was so hastily rushed through, a lot of industry advocates like my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong and Oil and Gas World magazine are wondering what will happen to them if they say nice things about the Canadian oil and gas sector that has allowed so many families, including my own, to become members of the embattled middle class.
Robbie tells me he's willing to go to jail and he wants to tell that to you too.
So joining me now is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil, Sand, Strong, and Oil and Gas World magazine.
My friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sands Strong and Oil and Gas World magazine.
And we're discussing the implications of the liberals' censorship bill, C-59, on activists just like him.
Robbie, this is crazy because when the first iteration of this censorship was proposed by NDP MP Charlie Angus, everybody said it was crazy, including some liberals.
They said it would never happen.
But the liberals took it and then rolled it into an omnibus bill, stuck it under the Competition Act, and called it anti-greenwashing legislation.
What do we know about this?
What does it mean for people like you?
Because we've already seen what the industry is doing in response to this, turtling.
What does it mean for somebody like you?
Well, you know, it has definitely changed the game because what it has done and it has done very well is it forced industry all of a sudden to just basically pull all of their data.
And a lot of the activists and activists use the data.
For instance, you know, the Canada only produces 1.5% of all global emissions.
The oil sands only produce 0.15.
These are stats that we've used in making our argument for a very long time.
But I find the other part that's more scary is if someone challenges you, even if it's a ludicrous claim, they're making the same that you're making the claim, they've really dampened your freedom of speech to make your case for an argument.
Like, I mean, I think electric cars are shit.
I have for many years.
There's facts that they use that I don't agree with, but I certainly don't want the other side to go to jail or be fined for expressing their interpretation of data or facts.
So it's scary, but candidly, you know, it's also, I'm very, I'll be honest, I'm very disappointed that everybody turtled and didn't put up any of a fight.
So it's really weird because it's just a handful of us that are going to stay the course and fight this.
And I'm going to fight it with everything I have.
But also it goes to show you that Justin Trudeau's government is a dictator government.
And Charlie Angus, who typically would have zero say, in fact, he's had zero say throughout his whole political career, is in the position of government.
And it's crazy.
Everyone, the shocked industry, everyone I know is shocked by it.
And it's fundamentally wrong.
And It's an absolute attack on our freedom of speech.
I'm shocked that this is happening in Canada right now.
But also, I mean, shocked, but not so shocked that industry has decided to turtle because you cannot expect the people and the liberals to support you.
And I think that this is why there's a lot of division within the sort of the pro-oil group right now, because I think they were quite surprised that after all of their wonderful ads, they place and we're really good, you know, we're really good people.
The Trudeau government still screwed them.
And in fact, far worse than anything I've ever seen.
I mean, you got to hand it to that narcissistic pretty boy, Justin Trudeau.
I mean, he is definitely more crazy than his father.
His father had the charter, which we all use, and you can make some good cases about that.
Well, Trudeau Jr. is nothing but a narcissist and scary.
And I'm so happy that I like I pray that he is going to get defeated brutally because it's a fundamental attack of my freedom of speech, your freedom of speech.
And it shows you they'll do anything to hurt their opponent, which I find hilarious because the Trans Mountain pipeline is actually saving their asses a little bit right now because it's producing tax revenue, which they desperately need.
And everything this country has is one way because of oil and gas.
And instead of letting it flourish and working with them to make it better, they just punish them.
And it's not fair.
It's not fair to the oil and gas companies who were desperately trying to improve their technologies.
Now they can't talk about it.
It's wrong.
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.
The old adage is feeding the crocodile so that it eats you last.
That's, I think, what these oil and gas companies did.
They sucked up to the liberals.
They, you know, invested in wind turbines and DEI and all sorts of nonsense in the hopes that the crocodile would eat them last.
Well, the crocodile ate everybody else and now it came for them too.
And now, as you rightly point out, they can't even talk about the advancements that they're making because now it's covered under this false advertising legislation.
And what really astounds me is they can't talk about the tangible, measurable things that they're doing in the oil and gas sector to improve technology.
But the other side of this can get away with saying such atrocious nonsense as though we have, what was it, 12 years to save the planet?
They said that back in 2018 and then they revised it to seven or eight years.
So I think, are we dead yet?
Did we die?
I'm not sure.
But the other side can make these outlandish claims that my SUV is causing global boiling, which is nonsense.
How could you, you can't even measure the surface temperature of the earth?
Like you can't.
It's impossible.
But they can say that we have to keep global temperatures under a certain degree, which is something you can't measure.
But you can't talk about the tangible advancements in technology in the oil and gas sector.
You see that meme going around where it says Canada is getting hotter two times than the rest of the country.
And then you see it in Australia.
Like the amount of crap that they put out.
And Stephen Gabol recently says, you know, like, I'm so sick of this scare tactics about this crisis.
Like we had, you know, a bit of a fire scare.
We had a bit of a spray.
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This has been the coldest, wettest summer.
Horrible.
You know, my plants froze in June.
You know, we just got our garden boxes up and they were so like saturated with water that one of them collapsed.
It's not.
It snowed in Calgary last week.
Yeah.
Like, it's like, you know, like, as a gay guy, I'm a poor excuse for a gay guy because my yard is not up to standards.
Like, it's just not.
And yet, that guy, that horrible criminal of a minister is up there.
And, oh, we know, like, it's called summer.
It used to be summer.
And some summers had rain and we had droughts, and other summers, like, this is going to be one of the wettest years on record, which we were told that we were going to have forest fire catastrophic forest fires all year.
I'm not buying it anymore.
I truly believe that weather is weather, and we can prepare the best we can for it.
I believe in low pollution.
I believe that we need to do better.
And we are up here by far.
I also believe in economic security and jobs and a country.
I mean, I am so sick of us sending money to other countries, but we don't have a military.
I mean, the response.
I was talking to one of my friends who's a colonel in the military, and he said it's just we couldn't go to war with like any country.
We would be done in minutes.
We have this country has just fallen apart under this prime minister.
And it's almost like he's using Canada, like his Facebook or Instagram page, where he gives money that's not his to make himself look good.
I'm just, I'm just shocked at this.
Like the amount of crap that we're going through right now.
And it's just, it's, it's insane.
And I am going to fight this with all of my might.
I, we, I've been having a lot of conversation.
I'm not going to be quick about it.
I'm going to be methodical, but it's hard.
I'm running the business in Fort McMurray.
I have staff.
You know, during the fire, I had to rush home.
I was already on my bus.
But I think it's time for us to like, we don't want to be a bunch of frogs in boiling water that the government keeps screwing us and screwing us and we're going to give up all our rights.
Like, this is insane.
This is an attack on freedom of speech.
I'm sure if it was challenged, it would probably be proven wrong.
But I mean, whether you like Justin Trudeau or hate Justin Trudeau, he's got to go.
He is by far damaging our brand of our country.
I mean, you tell me another prime minister who has had more, I've never seen a person claim to be a feminist who screwed over more women.
I mean, look what he did to Joni Rabo.
Look what he did to Jane Pulpot.
I mean, the guy, and people underestimate him.
He's not stupid.
He comes across like he's very stupid, but he's not.
He's a shark in politics.
He really, truly is.
And we cannot underestimate him or his narcissism.
This is our version of, you know, kind of like, you know, he's sort of like, he's a dictator.
He's a pretty dictator who wants to have absolute power and attacking our fundamental rights of freedom of speech, allowing Charlie Angus to do that.
Look what he's done, seize bank accounts.
He's done so many things.
How many times have you been in front of the ethics commissioner?
Like the guy is by far the biggest danger to Canada.
And yeah, I didn't, I met him, I hosted him.
Like, I never saw it, but we're starting to see it.
And I don't agree with Sapphora Berman.
I think she's an idiot.
But I would never, ever take her right to disagree with me.
And she said a lot of stuff that I think is so full of it.
And I don't think she's overly intelligent, even though she's got a few degrees and she's a bit of a, you know, what do you call that?
Sort of like an elitist that thinks that she's superior, you know, and I question that, but I would never, ever, even my Kadima, another idiot, I would, but I would never, ever go after their, and they've made a ton of claims that I don't agree with, claims that have been proven false.
Like, I mean, how many, you're right to your point earlier.
How many times have we been told that we've got five years to live?
How many times, like in the 70s, we're in an ice age and then it's this.
Like most of their predictions are crap and don't come true.
But I respect their right to have that.
And when it comes to data, so they're going to counter and say, well, the oil companies have putting out false data.
Data changes, the oil companies put out what they have at the time.
And I truly believe that they are doing good work.
I know them.
I mean, they shouldn't necessarily be in the advocacy field because, you know, engineers tend to not have that skill set of knowing how to talk to people.
Hence, maybe why we're in some of this problem.
But that being said, they're good people that are trying really hard to make the world a better place.
And it's wrong what Trudeau just did to them.
They've done far more like this whole thing with carbon capture and all of this would provide millions and millions and millions of dollars in jobs.
It helps Canada get the energy where it needs to be.
If it works, great.
Why are they attacking the fossil fuel industry so hard?
I just don't understand it.
And it's like they're using fossil fuels.
They need it to fly.
I mean, the liberals are hosting a caucus meeting in Nanaimo.
Well, how the hell are they going to get to Nanaimo?
Right.
Like, it's just unbelievable.
And the fact that Stephen Gabal is in that position just blows my mind.
It's just this wild disconnect that you can't even talk about the jobs that are being created, the Indigenous partnerships, the advancement in technology, the benefit to your life that fossil fuels bring you.
You can't even really talk about now that actually plastics shouldn't be listed as a Schedule I toxin because they're not asbestos lead and mercury levels of toxic.
I mean, it's just wild while the liberals simultaneously reap the benefit of the oil and gas sector, not just in their personal lives, but economically speaking, as you rightly point out about the Trans Mountain pipeline.
If fossil fuels were so bad, why did they work so hard to get that pipeline built years late and over budget?
Well, and that's and that's where we're in a weird predicament.
And why do they pick on Alberta?
Alberta pays for all the transfer payments that keeps Quebec kids in daycare that helps the country.
I just honestly, but now we've hit a point where like they're passing, you know, communist laws in what was supposed to be a free country.
And I mean, like, I know this is sort of the cycle.
Like, I mean, Malruni, you know, lost, got down to two seats.
And, you know, but there's something wrong with Trudeau.
There really, truly is.
And I think that this many years in power and the lies, like he's going to balance the budget.
He's going to do this.
He's done none of this.
Like, it's just insane.
The fact that you can't get rid of them until their pensions are in because, you know, Jagmeat doesn't want to call an early election because he needs a pension.
I mean, it's, it's just, I'm, I'm flabbergasted and tired, right?
You know, it's been a long eight years with this guy.
And I think that it's, we're in a position now where hopefully, you know, there's some good news out of Toronto.
You know, there was a by-election that went the conservative way.
And, you know, and I went from being very non-partisan, which I'll, you know, I'll go back to.
I mean, I'm going to give Nemchi a chance, right?
I'm going to see if he goes in a positive direction towards the industry and promoting oil and gas.
I'll give him a shot.
But when it comes to the liberals, you need the conservatives in there.
You just do.
You got to give everybody a chance.
You got to listen to what they say, give them a chance.
But when it comes to the liberals, I think there's no room for nonpartisan anymore.
You have to pick a side.
And Pierre Polyev is going to be the only thing that I think will save Canada from being completely destroyed into this country that doesn't have a national identity, that is so woke that we don't even know what we're being woked about.
Do you know what?
I'm just going to disagree with you for a second here.
I think we have a national identity.
I think our national identity used to be freedom.
Trudeau is doing his best to destroy it.
Well, I think the only way to get that back where we feel like we have something to be proud of besides a hockey game is to have a leader that represents all of us that doesn't diminish us and pick and choose and fights for all of our freedoms, even if we disagree.
You know, like the convoy, like I spent a lot of time with Tamara for the first time when I was at the Rebel Live thing and I interviewed her.
And it's like, I'm not scared of her.
Like, you know what I mean?
She was just a simple grandma, a bit eccentric.
You know what I mean?
You could make comments that she's different, but he devastated her life.
Yeah.
You know, like, regardless, you know, I'm sure she'll get pros and cons from the notoriety of the Trucker Convoy, but, you know, he devastated her.
That's yeah, like, I mean, where's the restraint in leadership?
Why didn't he sit with her?
Why didn't he meet with her and say, look, let's try to find common ground?
That a true leader is someone that can literally sit down with their opponents and above all, respect their, like, respect their rights.
Like, he's just a bad leader and a bad person.
So, yes, I mean, we haven't, we have an identity, but I don't think we have a, we haven't had a leader at the helm for a long time that could speak to both.
I think we have a leader who actively hates our identity.
And I think that is very divisive and it puts Canada in conflict with its leadership constantly, the people of Canada and the leaders dislike each other.
Like, you could, I mean, we can go over the list, right?
So, you got, we'll start with his dad.
Loved Canada, hated the West, gave the West the middle finger.
But I don't believe Pierre Elliott Trudeau would screw with my right to speak.
I don't believe it.
I, he, you know what I mean?
There was a level of, but he was articulate, he was charming, he was different.
I didn't, he was not good for Alberta, but I could live with him, right?
Brian Marooney, I could live with, you know what I mean?
I didn't always agree with Brian Eiler.
Jean-Christian, I actually like Jean-Cretchin.
He helped the oil sands.
He helped.
He strangled a hippie.
So he did.
Like, you know, you know, he, he, he's as crooked as the day is long.
Last guy to sign off on the residential schools.
So I disagree with him on a lot.
That man strangled a hippie, you know.
And let's not forget the time that he picked up that Inuit carving and was going to bash the burglar.
Right.
Right.
See?
See, there you go.
Right.
And Stephen Harper, like, I've met him a couple of times.
I think he's brilliant.
Is he the best?
The day is long.
Yeah.
I just, I just watched him speak again and it was like, you know, but I'd rather have that than what we have now.
But yeah, 100%.
Stephen Harper cared about the party.
He cared.
And he left them with a strong opposition.
He truly did.
You know, but I think Pierre Polyev, you know, he has he's not a Silver Spoon kid.
He has a very interesting backstory.
I like him and I really believe he has Canada's interests at heart.
But this Trudeau nonsense has to stop.
Like it's just, yeah, like it's insane.
I never thought it'd be the day they're worried about my freedom of speech.
You know, what happens if I say something that they don't agree with?
Like, or I put something in Oil and Gas World magazine.
Like, are they going to come after me?
They're going to sue me.
They're going to come after my house.
Like, that's the reality that they put these people through.
But we can sit back and Take it, or we can say, no, like we're hitting the road and we're going to fundraise and we are going to fight this and ensure that our government is accountable to the people, not just some vanity project for Trudeau.
Like, I mean, there's a lot of speculation if Justin Trudeau's gay or not right now, especially when he went to the Barbie movie with his kid.
And I had a conversation with this with my friend the other day and I said, you know, as a gay guy, probably one of the most known gay guys in the country next to the prime minister, I am, I don't care if my prime minister is gay.
Yeah, I don't care.
Here's what I want.
And you know what?
I'm actually going to go down a road.
I don't normally go down, but I'm in a mood.
So here's what I want.
My friend Michael Jesso here in Fort McMurray, he's top gay.
I made him top gay.
And even him and Jesso defends and defends and defends.
And we had a conversation because the pride here tried to ban the police again.
And Jesso's like, no, absolutely not.
We have equal rights.
That's where we want equal rights to be.
Equal rights means I can do what I want in my house as long as I'm not hurting anybody.
I live my life the way I want.
You live the life the way you want.
And that's it.
And now, because of this moron prime minister, he has all the gay and lesbians and the whole alphabet fighting because no one even knows what they're fighting for anymore.
He's made it so weird and so unnecessary in conflict that we can't like, it's gone too far.
And he's jumped on every bandwagon there is, but yet he's none of them.
He's not Indian, even though he goes to India and he plays dress up and he jumps around.
He's not black.
You know, maybe he's gay.
We don't know.
But my point is, is that it doesn't matter.
Your job as a leader of our country is to represent us with dignity and compassion and a bit of stoicness.
You need to be a true leader.
And that means stepping outside of your narcissism for 10 minutes, not jumping on a grand piano at the Queen's funeral to make a spectacle of yourself.
Like, like Harper, you know, you got to give him credit.
I don't remember a prime minister in history that was more embarrassing than this guy to our country, to our national, having private conversations with the president of China and then getting shit for it later, not understanding what to do, like who's bigger and who's not.
And it's like, we're in a mess because of him.
This crazy wokeness.
Like, you know, like, I don't even know how to be gay anymore.
I'm probably kicked.
I probably lost my gay car.
If you saw my yard right now, you probably would.
But regardless, my point is that this is a problem.
We need someone to unite us again that accepts us all for how we are as equals, not this exclusiveness that's gone too far.
Like, I mean, and that's what I had a conversation with someone the other day at Pride.
They're like, well, I'm like, what's like, what do I, I said, what do you do if people don't know what the letters are?
Well, we take our time and we go through it and we make sure they don't screw up the letters.
And I'm like, okay, what do they mean?
Well, she didn't even know.
So you're telling people, like, you're making this up, this unnecessary conflict, this, this society, like, I'm not saying that cleans can't improve.
I'm not even saying that, you know, like we can't for the whole LGBT or the Pride community, that there's not more things that can happen, but not at the expense of other people.
And I think our prime minister, this whole country, it's because his lack of leadership, his lack of statesmanship, and he's just a bad person.
And now, like, and now he's going to infringe on my rights to defend the industry that I love.
You know, and then the other thing is, I was talking to my friend at the Western Standard the other day, and I'm like, even myself, I'm like, why am I doing this?
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Right?
Like, defending an industry that has all this money.
And he said, Robbie, it's not about the big oil companies.
It's not about the big CEOs.
It's about all those people who lose their jobs, all the jobs that go to Saudi Arabia.
I have friends who've moved to Saudi Arabia to work in oil and gas because they couldn't do anything here.
Yes.
Yes.
And it's not so much about the top level.
It's about the jobs and the security.
Do we really want a country that's like that's on income support forever?
Do we really want to lose the ability to buy a home?
I'm talking to people that are like banks are looking at like multi-generational mortgages in Canada.
I know they got them in England.
So you'll never have your mortgage paid off.
You'll always have debt.
Like, is this the Canada we want?
That we can't afford a home.
We can't get ahead.
We can't change.
Like, like, that's not what I want.
And this trust fund baby of privilege who, you know, may or may not be gay has suddenly turned us into this country that we don't know.
We don't know who we are.
We don't know what we value.
No, it needs to change.
He's got it.
We don't talk to each other.
He's got us all thinking that we're enemies with each other.
Yes.
We all just want to have a job and have something to leave behind when we're gone.
He doesn't want you and me talking to each other because it's a story as old as time.
You divide them, then you conquer them.
My favorite moment was at Rebel Live when I heard Donald Trump Jr. speak, right?
And I agreed with 90% of what he said.
10, I strongly disagreed with, right?
But I was able to say, okay, one, he wasn't stuck up.
He was actually quite humble.
Not the best speaker.
I mean, he wasn't like, I expected more like his dad, right?
But truly a humble, nice guy who basically has everything in the world that he could possibly want, even now with all of the drama and everything.
He doesn't need to do any of this.
None of it.
And he's still, and we had a great dialogue.
And I thought right there and then is the problem.
I like 90% of what he said.
I could have focused on the 10% I disagreed with, right?
But I found common ground.
And I'm like, that is what our prime minister has destroyed.
And you know what?
Every prime minister up to him, even Kim Campbell, found common ground.
Everyone.
But this prime minister has not found common ground.
If you're his opponent, he destroys you or tries to.
And he's been successful at destroying people within his party.
He's not a feminist.
Women that go again.
Again, I thought about this the other day.
Our premier, Danielle Smith, a strong woman, is fighting two chauvinistic, misogynistic people who wear the cloak as feminists.
And that's Stephen Gabo and Justin Trudeau.
The way they speak to her, the way they demean her.
They're very condescending towards her.
And if you look at throughout the history of who he's dealt with, any woman that's opposed him, that's what it is.
He's not a feminist.
And you like, and I just think it's time we need something better.
We truly do.
And he's a disgrace to Canada and a disgrace to everyone around him.
And I'm hope.
I mean, hopefully we can get some new options.
I mean, that's the other thing that sucks, right?
Like, you know, 30, 40 million people.
And mind you, I take that back.
I actually think Pierre Polyeva is the best choice to be prime minister.
So we have a good leader there.
But in the States, I mean, you got one guy or the other guy.
And it's like there needs to be room for, you need some more interesting candidates out there to run.
Right.
So I have two last questions for you.
Sure.
Let's start with the one that you just touched on.
What happened?
We're recording this Tuesday.
It'll go to air on Wednesday.
What happened in Toronto on the early hours of Tuesday began Monday night?
And that's the St. Paul's by-election.
Liberal stronghold.
I think it's been held by the liberals since 1993.
Carolyn Bennett held it since, I think, 97.
Cabinet minister, who only retired because she took a diplomatic posting uh, to Denmark.
Uh, which is just a cushy.
What do they call it?
Golden parachute?
Um, it hasn't been held by a conservative since 1988 and I, the fact that this writing was even in play is was wild, crazy.
Just a harbinger of, I think, the public sentiments towards the liberals across the country.
But it was now taken by a conservative.
What do you think this means for what was formerly considered safe for the liberals?
I think that intelligent cooler heads are prevailing and realize that this prime minister has taken this entire country for a bunch of suckers.
And regardless of what political stripes you have, I think people are tired of it.
I think they're tired of all of it.
And I think part of what is, let's just be honest, okay?
The liberals lost the popular vote twice and barely formed, well, they didn't form government.
They had a minority government and then they had a so-called coalition with the NDP.
They didn't do like seen as an administer or something like has been done historically when this happens.
And I think the combination of the liberals and the NDP has just made everyone sick, even in Toronto and across this country.
We all want the ability to make lives better for ourselves.
And under the Trudeau, it's bizarre.
Life is bizarre right now.
Things that don't like, you don't know where you stand.
I literally don't know what my next move is in my advocacy because things that I, the staples that we counted on are now at risk.
You know, like it piles up.
I mean, if you, if you go against the prime minister, can he seize your bank account?
Right.
No, people say that it's ridiculous, but that's something that happened.
You know what I mean?
So I think everybody has kind of woken up to the wokeness of this woke prime minister.
And I'm even finding myself this, like, I'm thrilled.
And I hope, I really hope when Pierre Paglio gets in, that two things happen.
Wokeness And Warnings00:09:52
One, he keeps his word.
And two, that the conservatives actually find a way to stay humble.
And it's not easy when you're in power.
But I'd like to see 10 years from now that we want him to stay.
And if let's say he like you've had, you've had presidents in the past that you did not want to leave, like Reagan or even, you know, even people can make the argument for that Obama.
You know what I mean?
Like you don't want them to leave, but they have term limits, right?
We want him to get the hell out.
And we do.
And I really hope that in 10 years time when Pierre Polyev, hopefully he's still there.
I hope there's a different sentiment to our leader.
You know what I mean?
I really, I really truly hope there is.
But I've never seen, I mean, granted, we're in the age of social media now, but I've never seen such disdain.
And I'm.
Oh, it's everywhere.
It's everywhere from the people you least expect it from.
People I thought who were apolitical, didn't care about this stuff.
And they're like, got an F Trudeau stick around their vehicle now.
Well, you know, I'll be honest, like even myself, like I always avoided the F the F Trudeau stuff, but like I, you're like, you're at the point now.
It's like, you got to be kidding.
Like you're making decisions.
Like you stopped Canada's most successful industry, the most powerful industry, the one that we need the most from advancing their technology from talking about, because that's part of it.
That's part of it.
It's talking about carbon captures, talking about what they want to do.
And I know these guys, I mean, like, they care.
I mean, like, they're looking at ways to use science.
Like, we're not going to get rid of oil and gas.
It's just not going to happen.
Canada shuts down tomorrow.
It's going to come from Saudi Arabia or Venezuela.
Right.
And these guys still got to get to Nanaimo for their cabinet retreat where they could talk about affordability.
Right?
We still got to get there.
Yeah.
So, why the hell aren't we growing this?
And they can't make the Indigenous argument anymore because, like, I candidly, when that came out, like, multiple clients of my Indigenous clients are like, whoa, how can we help you, Robbie?
So, I have to regroup this a little bit.
But, like, no, it's a shame what they've done to our country.
And this, I think, part of the other problem, too, if I was to advise all politicians, and actually, I'll speak to Pauli Ebb directly now.
Don't surround yourself with the youngest people.
I've noticed that a lot that even the premier's offices sometimes you got like a lot of kids there.
Have some, but there's a lot of the older people that should be in the behind the scenes too.
They need more of that.
And I think that's part of the problem, too.
So you got a lot of like, it's not, sure, you might get a lot of reach on TikTok and some dance craze might be great, but that doesn't mean good policy for sustaining a country.
Right.
You know, and it's like when Elizabeth May, can you believe Elizabeth May has access to like top security documents now?
It's horrifying.
I hope she doesn't spill her NyQuil all over it.
Like, I know, but remember the time she was drunk on stage?
Yeah, and she blamed it on NyQuil.
So I'm Nyquil.
Yeah, she said I took some cold medicine.
Like, I'm sure you did.
And a lot of other things.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, she is, she is from BC.
I'll ask you one last question.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do now that oil and gas advocacy is potentially considered false advertising under the Competition Act?
You could face fines.
What are you going to do?
I am going to make my message real simple.
Oil and gas is the best thing that's ever happened to Canada.
Okay.
That's my opinion.
It provides economic reconciliation for Indigenous people.
And I believe we care deeply about the environment.
And it's my freedom of speech.
And I'm going to stick on those four messages.
We're hopping on the bus.
I'm going to do a GoFundMe.
I'm going to get out there.
I am going to fight this with all of my might.
And I'm going to point out that that spoon-fed trust fund baby, Justin Trudeau, is the bad choice for Canada.
And we're becoming more he is attacked freedom of speech.
He's attracted, he attacked social media.
So small news agencies can't have a Facebook page.
Yep.
The guy has devastated this country.
And we're not going to sit back and just take it anymore.
Good.
Robbie, how do people support the work that you do at Oil, Sand, Strong, and Oil and Gas World magazine?
Because you're largely funded from within.
You don't take any handouts from Justin Trudeau, as is the case with so many media publications in this country.
So, how do people help you?
Go to my Twitter.
I need to get my Twitter following up or my former Twitter.
Go to X and then go to Sheila and then she'll retweet me and then follow me there.
And all the links will be there.
Oilandgasworld.ca.
And we're going to set up a waste that you can buy tons of t-shirts, please.
And yeah, we're going to keep the magazine going.
Brett Wilson's on the cover of this issue here.
One issue a month.
We're going to be teaming up.
I'm going to be speaking at more of the Rebel events in the near future here.
And just please support us.
I am taking it to the people.
I have a marketing company.
I've got seven full-time employees and I subsidize oil, Sand, Strong, and Oil and Gas World with that.
I'm hoping to the point where you could help with the magazine grow it.
I shouldn't have to subsidize the advocacy.
I should be able to do that from a magazine.
And I'm hoping to get to that stage.
But yeah, but please, like, I'm asking for help.
I will be posting some stuff.
We can't allow this to happen.
And quite frankly, there's a few of us have been doing this for about 10 years now.
And I'm one of three that are still standing.
But I'm not knocking anyone for not standing.
It's not an easy thing putting yourself out there for advocacy.
I mean, I just put out a post and you can see, you know, when we started, like, I actually originally started with the I Level OSNs movement.
And one of the things that I remember is when we first gave out the stickers, I heard Ola Sands, people were actually tearing up.
They were crying because they felt that we found a way to defend them.
The good thing that's come from this is I believe we're just starting from the bottom again and we're going to work our way up.
And, but I one thing I will not do is I am going to be a louder voice than I have been.
But you know, you find yourself in a weird spot because I really enjoy my turtles and I built an outdoor turtle enclosure and I built a moat up to a cloud foot bathtub so they can go outside during the day and I made a turtle coop, right?
And why I'm going on with this kind of craziness part of my story is that it takes a lot out of me to go across the country and put myself out there when I have a home and a partner and two dogs and 10 turtles and fish and I want to build my life and candidly, it's going to sound crazy, but I actually am pretty quiet in my personal life and I like that shield, you know, but I'm not going to let this happen.
And I will be actually attending more Rebel events and trying to team up with Rebel more than I have been in the past because this is wrong.
It's wrong to put people in jail if you disagree with them.
It's wrong to attack the charter of freedom of speech.
It's wrong to shut up a major industry who has contributed countless, countless dollars and jobs and opportunity to this country.
And I'm sorry, I will say it.
I feel that Justin Trudeau has dictator characteristics.
So instead of flat out calling him a dictator in a democracy, I'm going to say that I believe that he is, he fantasizes about being a dictator.
You know, now if he's a gay dictator or not, I don't know, but he's definitely a dictator.
Robbie, can I tell you something?
I don't think anybody's going to shut you up.
I think they can try, but it's not going to happen.
Robbie, thanks so much for coming on the show.
Thanks for being such an advocate for regular people, families just like mine.
As you say, you're not working on behalf of the oil and gas CEOs.
You're working on behalf of the employees of oil and gas companies who provide for their families with these high-paying jobs producing the cleanest, best oil and gas in the world because the world needs oil and gas.
Why not from us?
Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show wherein we invite your viewer feedback because without you, there is no rebel news.
That's why I give you my email address right now.
It's Sheila at RebelNews.com.
If you've got a question, comment about the show tonight, put gun show letters in the subject line.
So I know why you're emailing me.
I get a bunch of emails a day.
And so that just helps me sort through them when I'm looking to hear from you.
But don't let that be the bar for entry.
If you're watching this somewhere else, if you're watching a clip over on YouTube or on Rumble, leave a comment there.
I go looking over there all the time for your comments.
And sometimes I go looking for comments completely unrelated to my show, but sometimes on the topic that I'm talking about.
For example, today's show is about the failings of the Trudeau liberals and their intense censorship around anybody who might think differently than the liberals.
You know, and if somebody thinks differently than me, let's debate it.
Let's talk about it.
The liberals don't even want us talking to each other anymore.
They don't want us talking at all, let alone to each other.
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And we saw that last night.
And I'm recording this on Tuesday, just so you know.
So I'm referring to Monday when I say last night in Calgary when Justin Trudeau's RCMP executed an immigration warrant on, I think, one of, if not the most censored manned in the English-speaking world, Tommy Robinson, after our very successful Calgary event where we talked about free speech.
No irony there, hey?
You know, you arrest a guy after a free speech event.
Regardless, I wanted to know what you folks thought of the shocking footage that we had of Tommy getting arrested.
And I'm telling you, it was shocking.
I was standing there loading t-shirts and merch into my Jeep, and I just saw RCMP, plain clothes, roll up, and then supported by Calgary police, who sneakily parked around the corner.
And they just grabbed Tommy, as you can see in our footage, North Korean-style abduction, stuffed him into a police vehicle, and didn't tell us where they were taking him.
We didn't know if they were taking him to another city, as the lawyer said was a serious possibility, or if they were taking him to, you know, city police cells or a federal building.
We had no idea.
And they wouldn't tell us.
They instead, you know, just slammed the door in our faces.
They took away a foreign national that they had just led into the country days earlier and picked him up on an immigration warrant.
So, anyways, to learn more about that, to support Tommy, go to savetommy.com.
We hired one of the best lawyers we could in Alberta on very short order who started working immediately.
We were able to get Tommy out.
We're dealing with passport-related issues.
We've had to cancel at least one event as I'm recording this, possibly more, given the restrictions on Tommy's travel and movement now.
But I wanted to know what you thought about what you saw as you watched that video, if you felt sort of the same sense of this cannot be my Canada feeling that I had as that happened.
Extreme gas 25 on YouTube rights.
The thing about this, immigration warrant, people from all over the world have been let into America and Europe with zero ID, no passports.
You know, you mentioned America and Europe, and part of Tommy's Tommy's speech and part of his issues are that, yes, there's this unfettered, unmitigated, unmonitored migration from some parts of the country into the Western world.
And what impact does that have culturally?
And, you know, our American friends are dealing with illegal migration.
As Canadians, we're dealing with illegal migration.
And we at Rebel News have done so much journalism at Wroxham Road, which the liberals now claim they've closed.
It's in southern Quebec and people are just human trafficked, coyote style, all the way up to the border.
And then they walk through the ditch and then the RCMP takes their luggage and takes them away and says, okay, we'll talk to you in three years when you get your immigration hearing.
Here's your taxpayer-funded hotel room.
And so Tommy did it the right way, went through his immigration screening.
When he landed earlier, they let him go and now they grab him.
And he apparently, you know, presented documents, didn't just shuffle across the border as we've seen happen thousands upon thousands of times in this country.
And he gets turned around or at least detained.
Tell me, do you think for a second the same style of restrictions on Tommy Robinson are being placed on people who claim refugee status illegally in our country?
They just disappear.
They had Tommy turn in his passport earlier this afternoon, Tuesday, as I'm recording this.
Do you think anybody's turning in their passports and not being allowed to leave a certain geolocation?
Definitely not.
I wonder why they're doing it to Tommy Robinson, who is highly critical of progressive politicians who are not pumping the brakes on unfettered migration.
Nobody's saying no immigration.
We're saying it's unsustainable for us, but also for the immigrants.
Anyway, if you want to learn more, follow the saga of Tommy Robinson on his one and possibly only trip to Canada.
Go to savetommy.com.
And if you're so inclined, make a donation to offset the accruing legal fees to try to have those conditions amended.
Because as it sits right now, they have his passport.
He can't leave the Calgary area, but he can't leave the country and go home either.
It's wild.
Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.