Ezra Levant and Mark Morano expose how socialist elites—backed by the Rockefeller Foundation, WHO, and Bill Gates’ $10B+ funding—weaponize climate and pandemic crises to restrict freedoms. Gates, despite no medical expertise, pushes policies like hospital water limits and "earth-friendly drugs," mirroring failed Kyoto/Copenhagen treaties until Paris (2015). Farage’s Reform UK defies net-zero, ULEZ bans, and establishment lies, while figures like Milei and Bukele resist globalist agendas. With Trump facing potential imprisonment, Levant warns of historical parallels and election-driven desperation, hoping November swings freedom back—despite Canada’s continued decline under authoritarian policies. Morano’s climatepot.com remains a key watchdog against the "forever pandemic" narrative. [Automatically generated summary]
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Tonight, what do COVID and climate have in common?
Well, they're both excuses to take away your freedom.
It's June 24th, and this is the Esther Levant show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
I don't know if you've been following the story of the water main break in Calgary.
Calgary, by some measures, the richest city in Canada, actually has a huge city surplus.
And of course, it's in the wealthiest province in the country.
It's a new city in terms of infrastructure compared to the older cities of Toronto and Montreal.
So how could it have a water main break that cuts the supply to the entire city for weeks?
And day after day, the mayor takes to the microphone saying that people have to reduce their water use by up to half, but only for a few weeks.
And when I kept hearing that refrain and the excuses for this water main break, all I could think of was, well, I thought of two things, actually.
The first was this mayor is excellent at declaring climate emergencies, at banning single-use plastic bags or single-use plastics like cutlery at a drive-through.
She's very good at all these ideological statements, but not very good at actually running a city.
That was my first thought.
And my second thought was, I've heard that before.
Two weeks to flatten the curve, five weeks to flatten your water use, or maybe it'll become permanent.
And don't think they haven't thought of that.
Because let me show you a story on our favorite climate website, climatepot.com.
Climate and COVID merge.
Well, who would say that?
Some kook somewhere?
Well, the American Medical Association, how curbing climate change can help stop the next viral pandemic.
And joining us now to talk about this is the boss of climatepot.com, our friend Mark Morano.
Mark, they really are looking for any excuse.
In the case of Calgary, it's a politician.
What's going on with the American Medical Association?
By the way, just a quick note on what you said about water.
In California, they had a drought, which then turned into a water surplus, but they had drought restrictions.
And Gavin Newsom, out of an abundance of caution, is going to keep the drought restrictions continued, the water restrictions in California into the future.
No one knows when he's going to end it.
And it's decimating who.
Not big corporate farmers, not equity asset owned, not the Bill Gates farmer, but the small farmers are being squeezed in California now because even though they don't have a water shortage at all, the drought's long over.
He will not release the water to these farmers.
So that's another thing.
I just wanted to point that out.
In terms of COVID and climate, the American Medical Association is now joining all of the other medical journals, is now joining the Harvard School of Medicine, is now joining everything, claiming that essentially unchecked climate leads to more viruses like COVID.
And they're warning that this is a respiratory virus from zoonotic sources.
And they're implying that COVID was all from zoonotic sources, i.e., from a monkey at a wet market in Wuhan.
They're not up on any of the latest information, revelations, investigations by the United States Congress and to the gain of function research.
But they're implying that essentially, if you don't support the Green New Deal, net zero climate policies, you're a grandma killer because curbing climate change helps stop the next viral pandemic.
And just to be clear, this is coming from billionaire foundations, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the WHO in 2023 announced a partnership for preventing pandemics fueled by climate change.
Unquote.
That's the exact phrase.
A partnership between the Rockefeller Foundation and the World Health Organization to quote prevent pandemics fueled by climate change, unquote.
And this is where we are, where major medical associations follow suit.
And that's what got me: the mayor of Calgary is a socialist mayor and she's just doing what socialist mayors do.
But the American Medical Association, I don't know if it has any standing or if it's more like a lobby group or an advocacy group as opposed to what we call up here the College of Physicians and Surgeons.
In Canada, every province has the regulatory body, and then you can have your political unions.
What's the AMA like?
Is that like the neutral registrar of doctors to make sure that everyone really is a medical doctor?
Or is it the lobby group?
Because the AMA, the American Medical Association, sounds so prestigious.
The fact that they're getting involved in this partisan propaganda is very demoralizing to me.
Well, they set the standards.
They're not necessarily a lobbying organization, but they're sort of like the woke corporate board culture.
They're not going to go against any of the things.
In fact, the American College of Pediatricians is the ones that came out recently against the transgender gender-affirming care.
That took a lot of courage.
But as far as I know, things like the American Medical Association, they're not, they sort of, they just sort of tow that safe corporate woke world.
They're not going to, they're not going to exhibit courage and stand up to anything like that.
And what I mean by that is they're not leading on this.
The American, this is, there were 200 medical journals right before I went to Dubai last November to the UN climate summit, COP28, that declared that climate change needs to be part of a public health response.
And then I mentioned the Rockefeller-WHO partnership.
So they're just sort of following along.
They're not leading.
They're not courageous.
They're not fighting.
They're just sort of in the middle of this whole corporate government collusion, culture, climate change, public health tyranny that we're seeing.
They're nothing special, is what I'm trying to say.
And what's interesting about this is there's a whole movement afoot in the United States to go after hospitals and make them compliant with net zero.
And this was an article in Politico magazine, again, corporate outlet here in the United States.
Hospitals are turning into climate change fighting machines.
That's a direct quote.
Oh, God, give me a point.
There are proposals.
I'm not making this up.
This is where the American Medical Association, they'll come out with a line like that, but they don't get involved.
Limiting water with timers for operating room sinks for surgeons.
Can you imagine that?
Can you imagine?
More earth-friendly drugs, limits on anesthesia because of the carbon footprint of the chemicals used in anesthesia.
Decarbonizing U.S. healthcare.
These are actual proposals.
This was in Politico magazine, an entire feature article.
So, this is insane.
The world, and this goes on the heels, Ezra, of Anthony Fauci in multiple medical peer-reviewed journals, warning of unchecked climate leading to more COVID-like viruses, blaming climate change for the spread of COVID.
And also, you have the Harvard School of Medicine getting a lot of money from the Chinese, oddly enough.
They're claiming that unchecked climate leads to more viruses like that.
And so, every organ of our medical establishment, including the hospitals, the doctors' associations, the research facilities like Harvard, are all towing the same line.
Isn't that some irony there?
It's terrifying.
You know, I was in Geneva, Switzerland, a few weeks ago, when the World Health Organization was trying to cobble together a final wording for their international pandemic treaty, and they couldn't quite get the wording they wanted.
And some people, I think, said, Oh, thank goodness, we dodged a bullet.
But no, these folks meet all the time.
It's an annual meeting, it's like the global warming meeting, it's a perpetual meeting.
And it's, and I had never been to Geneva before.
It's sort of, I mean, for a hundred years, it's been a diplomatic city.
That's where the League of Nations was supposed to be.
In fact, I think it's that original League of Nations building that is now the UN building there.
And they never want to stop.
Yeah, in fact, go ahead.
Well, to say, what you said, very important.
I just want to piggyback on that.
Since I've seen this WHO treat this pandemic treaty from the World Health Organization, you know, fail multiple years in a row.
And there's a lot of big sigh of relief.
I see a lot of our activists on our side, anti-WHO people.
I'm like, no, I've been to 19 out of the last 21 UN climate summits.
This started because of a Republican president, George H.W. Bush, signed the Rio Earth Summit, which led to the creation of the Conference of Parties, all these COP meetings.
They failed at Kyoto.
They failed in Copenhagen.
It took almost 20 years of these annual meetings with the sole goal of getting a climate treaty before Paris came along in 2015.
They were successful, which then led to the court or all these leaders sign on, and then led to all the court jurisdictions and all the rulings and all the net zero climate policy.
So we can never declare victory with the WHO.
They're just coming back.
They have nothing to lose.
They have decades into the future to make this happen, and they're going to be relentless.
Yeah.
Well, it really had a similar vibe, but there was one difference.
And this is something that astonishes me in so many ways.
You and I have talked before about Bill Gates.
I did not know how much of the UN's World Health Organization budget is funded by and therefore directed by that man.
Yes.
By what virtue?
He's not a medical doctor.
He's not a medical researcher.
He's a God-complex billionaire who is obsessed with his quirky visions of what public health are.
He, as much as Dr. Tedros, I think he has much more sway than Dr. Tedros because he's permanent and he's the money.
Tedros reports to Gates, not the other way around.
Yes, and there's been reports that Tedros is beholden to China.
Remember, this is the same World Health that went in January of 2020, went to China and said, if you want to know how to stop a virus, copy China, which was their exact phrase.
Bill Gates, through the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation and through his vaccine company, Gavi, you combine the two.
It exceeds all the donations China gives.
It exceeds the U.S. contribution.
He is the number one single donor.
So a simplified way, by the way, to look at the pandemic, the World Health Pandemic Treaty is to simply say a Bill Gates-funded scientist at the WHO can declare a pandemic and we can have global instant lockdowns without any outliers.
And the key to that is they don't want another Sweden.
They don't want another Ron DeSantis in Florida.
They want to absolutely crush dissent.
And everyone's got to be on the same page because when you get even a few outliers like Sweden, you can start looking at things like excess deaths.
You can start realizing that lockdowns and the vaccine may have killed more people than they potentially saved.
And that is what they're trying to do with that.
And so Bill Gates is an amazing figure because he's got his fingers in.
American agriculture, number one farmland owner.
He's pushing the fake vegetable oil processed meat.
He's pushing the lab-grown meat.
He and Jeff, Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, three billionaires, pushing lab-grown meat and funding it, at least in the case of Gates and Richard Branson, which is stem cells from a cow sheep pig mixed with fetal blood, put into a petri dish, and then in a steel vat printed on a 3D printer.
It's so crazy.
I find that so gross.
It's so repulsive.
They're trying to normalize something that's so I find it shocking.
I can't even look at that artificial meat being made by 3D printers without gagging.
Well, don't worry because you don't have to eat the 3D meat if you're interested in protein, the lab-grown, because Audi supermarket, it has now been reported, UK Daily Mail, is considering selling edible insect packs to help families afford protein.
If meat becomes too expensive because they're rationing it with methane concerns, and you don't want to eat lab-grown meat, you're going to have these family edible insect packs available at your local supermarket where you can beef up on the, you can max out on the protein so you'll make sure you get your right nutrition.
This is what our public health is pushing on us now.
It's so it's frightening stuff.
But Bill Gates, again, involved in agriculture, involved in the vaccines, involved in blocking the sun through research through Harvard University, involved in the World Health Organization.
I mean, he's got his, it's like his hands, fingers, and tentacles are in every aspect of our site, involved in censorship, involved in pushing the COVID lockdowns.
He tells the West, if anyone wants to know what to do in the next outbreak, Bill Gates' answer is simple.
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Copy what Australia did.
Follow Australia's model.
And Australia was probably the most totalitarian response to COVID next to China, which may be a close third Canada.
I think Australia may have exceeded, I don't know, you can debate that.
Who was worse, Canada, Australia?
But Australia had the quarantine camps, the track and trace apps.
They had police raiding your home.
If you did a Facebook thumbs up to a anti-COVID lockdown rally.
You know what?
You're right.
We watched Australia through the eyes of our Australian reporter, Avi Yamini, who just by chance was based in Melbourne, which was the most locked city in that country.
Yeah.
Other states in Australia, not so much, but that place called Victoria, in which Melbourne's the big city, it was so astonishingly locked down.
And you mentioned China.
The premier of that state, if I'm getting my titles wrong, his name was Dan Andrews.
He was very close to communist China.
In fact, this is so bizarre.
He's not a national leader.
He's the subnational territorial level.
He went and negotiated his own foreign treaty with China for the Belt and Road Initiative, and he kept it secret.
So he's not the federal government.
It would be as if some state governor went to China and negotiated a deal.
Oh, and didn't tell anyone what was inside it.
That's how crazy Victoria, Australia was.
We had something similar.
Governor Newsom had a Chinese climate summit with Xi Jinping a couple of years ago.
Right, right.
I remember as though he was a head of a state, head of a nation, not a head of a government.
But at least he didn't sign a treaty to join the he may have signed some agreement between California, but the pomp and circumstance was they made you.
I thought they were auditioning Gavin Newsom to maybe take over for Joe Biden.
Well, that may be happening.
That's why this is unprecedented in American political never happened.
A debate coming up in June in about a week.
Never happened.
And they think it's the Democratic Party donor class deep state basically auditioning Joe Biden.
If he falls flat, we may see Gavin Newsom yet.
Yeah.
Hey, we're talking about different jurisdictions around the world.
And I find that not only fun, but I find it useful because, I mean, in the case of Australia, we saw things happen there that then happened here.
So sometimes it's an early warning system.
Sometimes you can learn and prepare.
Sometimes there's wonderful examples overseas that you can import into your own country.
We were talking about, I mean, you talk about the war on carbon, but what we're talking about today a little bit is the war on nitrogen.
I don't know if you and I spoke about this, but when I interviewed Kurt Wilders, a leading politician in Netherlands, he just was dropping things in nitrogen, nitrogen.
I said, what are you talking about?
He talks about nitrogen the way you and I talk about carbon because they really had a war against farmers.
That was ground zero for the war on farmers, that in Sri Lanka.
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It's just crazy to hear about it, but it's useful for you in America and me in Canada to learn what's happening there.
And so I want to throw something to you.
Now, I hope I'm not catching you off guard because I didn't tell you I was going to ask you this.
I'm, you know, I'm a Canadian.
So in a way, we came from the UK in a different way than America did.
We sort of gradually had our independence.
We didn't have a revolution.
So I think we still have some ties.
And I look at the UK and they went so hard down the net zero road.
But now there's a rebellion in that country.
They had their election actually on the 4th of July, which is sort of funny.
And Nigel Farage has jumped back into the election campaign as the head of a party called Reform UK.
It's not the UKIP party anymore.
It's Reform.
Three polls in a row show him neck in neck with the incumbent Conservatives.
Now, Labour is ahead by far.
There's no doubt about that.
But this new party out of the blue that Nigel Farage is leading is just a juggernaut.
And let me show you a video clip that Nigel Farage posted, I think, just yesterday about scrapping net zero.
Take a look at this and then give me your thoughts.
The kickoff, what's your view on both the Ice Band for bikes and for cars in the UK?
Well, I've got a form on this because as a member of the European Parliament, of course, regulations on motorbikes were coming from Brussels.
And so I've met, you know, Motorcycle Action Group, et cetera, many times over the years.
Now, of course, you'd have thought with Brexit, now we're in control, it'll be less of a threat, but it's not.
And that's because of the whole net zero agenda that's being pursued.
Boris went absolutely full pelt for it.
Labour are still on that track.
The Tories are now saying, well, we won't do it all tomorrow.
We wait for the day after.
And frankly, the whole thing is about charging us more money.
The whole thing is about controlling our life and our behaviours.
And in terms of the environment, it makes absolutely almost no difference whatsoever.
So look, you know, bikers want the freedom to ride their bikes and pursue their hobby.
They should be allowed to do that without interference.
I do worry that with a Labour government, which we're going to get, I mean, think about you, Les, think about all the different things that have been done, low-traffic neighborhoods, et cetera.
I suspect for bikers, it's going to be difficult under a Starmer government.
And so what you're going to need is a voice of opposition standing up and saying, you know, please leave these people alone.
I did it when I was an MEP.
I'll do it when I'm an MP.
And there's one other little aspect of this that perhaps people haven't thought about yet, which is this, that the European Court of Human Rights recently ruled that Switzerland had to obey by its net zero legislation.
So this court that I've been complaining about in terms of borders and who stays and who doesn't has actually involved itself in this issue as well.
And, you know, I'm very clear about it.
We should leave the ECHR.
Many people are concerned about the lack of openness and scrutiny.
From the point of view of net zero, just remind us what reform is saying, what you're saying about it if you were to be elected.
Yeah, I mean, look, you know, I mean, Labour are talking about decarbonising the grid by 2030.
Impossible and would cost a fortune.
And of course, who pays?
Those at the lowest end in society pay the most percentage of their money on fuel, on heat in the house and cooking, all of those sort of things.
The Tories are now saying 2035.
What we're saying is the whole net zero needs a complete rethink.
We produce less than 1% of the world's CO2.
China are building about 80 new coal-fired power stations every single year.
And the other point about it is that, you know, of course I want us to be environmentally friendly as much as we can.
The answer to that, above all, is nuclear energy.
If you really want low carbon generation of reliable energy, then I think, you know, to me, nuclear would be the right way forward.
But either way, either way, you know, I will always stand up for individual liberty against the state.
And it's been so bad under the Conservatives.
It'll be worse under Labour.
But we all have to accept they won the next election.
It's done.
It's a question of who's the voice of opposition going to be.
And I'm standing up and saying, look, I've got a track record.
I fought the European Union.
I fought the banks.
I fought many other people over the years.
And I'll do the same in Parliament.
I'm deeply impressed.
He's got a full understanding, a real understanding of it.
He understands how small the UK is in comparison to India.
He understands how it hits ordinary people.
He mentioned ULES.
We don't use that term in North America.
That's ultra-low emission zone.
That's like these 50 different cities where you're not allowed to drive around.
Nigel is on it.
Now, he won't be the next prime minister, but I think he could be either the official leader of the opposition or a very noisy, effective voice.
I am thrilled to hear common sense on this.
I'm thrilled to hear someone throwing out net zero.
You don't hear that enough.
What do you think, Mark?
Nigel Farage, phenomenal.
He gets it.
He has skin in the game.
Remember, was it Nat West, one of the biggest banks in England, who he did a Freedom of Information Act request and found out that he got debanked?
They kicked him out because of his skeptical views on climate change.
Right.
That's crazy.
Yeah, he was able to shame them publicly.
I believe they ended up rebanking him.
Not that he'd won a bank with someone like that.
But his comment about the Conservatives in the UK, it's actually true of all over Europe.
I just got back from a conference in Vienna, Austria.
I also testified before the Polish parliament.
And it's amazing how throughout Europe, particularly Western Europe, Eastern Europe tends to have better members of parliament.
Why?
Because they know what totalitarianism.
They know what bureaucracy and what central planning does from their 40-year legacy under the Soviet system.
But it's amazing his line about understanding that the Conservatives in the UK essentially don't want to do it tomorrow.
They want to do it the day after tomorrow.
In other words, it's all the, they won't challenge the narrative that climate's in crisis.
They won't challenge the premise of net zero.
So they go along with it.
Richie Sunak has been horrendous.
Now, he's been coming around lately, but it's still that we'll just push off the net zero targets.
You know, you can call him Richie Rich.
He's a tool of the establishment.
Nothing to look at there.
I don't know how he ended up as prime minister.
We can only hope they get an opposition leader and eventually a prime minister like Nigel Farage in England.
But what every European member of parliament needs to do and what Europe needs more than anything, they need to challenge the premise.
There is no climate crisis.
They need to challenge the premise.
They need to say hell no to net zero.
And they need to turn it to the dustbin of history.
What I told the Polish parliament was that this is nothing more than Soviet-style central planning re-foisted upon the world in 2024.
And believe me, the Eastern Bloc nations know that.
And I hope Nigel Farage goes far because that's exactly what they need.
They need to challenge the premise.
No more of this crap and watered down milquetoast Richie Rich, Richie Sunak.
I call him Richie Sunak of prime minister.
He needs to go.
And maybe it would actually be cleansing to have the Labor Party in with an opposition leader like Nigel Farage until eventually Nigel Farage can get in.
Yeah.
You know, Rishi Sunak, I just, he's so astonishingly bad.
He feels like an AI character.
You know what I mean?
You know, you read something and you think this doesn't, you know, the words are there, but it doesn't feel natural.
It feels like a machine wrote this.
That's how Rishi Sunak feels about everything in life.
He's just so, he's like what a focus grouped idea of a leader is.
And it's so inauthentic, whereas Nigel is the exact opposite.
He's one of a kind.
He's larger than life.
He's got a huge smile.
He likes drinking beer.
He's got a normalness to him that the other guys don't have.
I'm so hopeful.
And you mentioned Poland, and I'm glad you were there.
I look at Javier Mille in Argentina, who cut like half the government departments.
He did it.
He wrestled inflation down.
I look at Naebukele in El Salvador.
I look at Orban in Hungary.
France is waking up.
Germany is waking up.
The Netherlands, we talked about already.
Even here in Canada, although we're very dark right now, I see the light ahead of the dawn.
I think the pendulum is swinging back on many things.
Of course, the most important, as important as all the rest combined, is what happens in your country in November.
And I don't know if you want to ask, answer any questions about that.
If Joe Biden is re-elected, or God forbid, Gavin Newsom, or triple, God forbid, Kamala Harris, I think the whole world will get a little bit darker.
And I just hate to say that because I would like to think that we can chart our own destiny in Canada.
Every country in the world will have their trajectory affected by what happens in America.
What do you think is going to happen?
Well, I think Donald Trump will win-win easily, but I don't necessarily mean I think he's going to be re-elected president.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I think when you have an establishment that was willing to have the unverified mail-in ballots that we did last time and have the record turnout with no verification and the way that was handled, I think they're going to try something different this time on election results.
But even more importantly, they're going to try to jail Donald Trump.
They're jailing the opposition leader.
There's nothing they won't do.
And when I say nothing the establishment won't do, I'm going to raise the specter of JFK.
I mean, they may be planning a short drive through Dealey Plaza with Donald Trump.
He is the sand that's going to grind into the works of this whole globalist agenda.
And I think they will do everything in their power to stop him.
And that includes cheating, lying, stealing.
And I don't, I just, I think the best analysis was Newt Gingrich, who recently said Donald Trump needs to win by Reagan landslide margins in order to actually be re-elected.
And there's some indication he may do that.
He's getting record black vote, record Hispanic vote.
He is coming on.
He's transcending politics.
And I actually, Ezra, people think I'm joking.
I'm not.
I'm a communication guy.
I'm a speechwriter.
I believe Donald Trump should embrace the idea of going to jail if this judge sentenced him.
He should go to Rikers Island this week, ask the thread count of the betting there because he's hotels.
He should talk to the chef about his culinary training.
He should ask to see the fitness facilities in the prison yards.
He should embrace this.
He's been given an opportunity that no other politician in 100 years of America has to completely transcend politics.
He's a political prisoner.
And I don't mean to compare him to this, but similar to Nelson Mandela, similar to Martin Luther King.
He could ride this to the greatest landslide in U.S. history because people will get it.
He needs to get off.
He can have his lawyers and others attack it, but he needs to embrace this and say, I'm willing to go to prison for you, the American people, for freedom, for free speech.
And I think if he took that tactic, I honestly think he would win by a historic landslide.
Wow.
Well, there's a lot to think about there.
And I'm worried about an assassination.
God forbid may it never happen.
I'm also worried about you put a guy in prison.
And the one thing I know from visiting people in prison, which I've done a little bit, is how helpless a prisoner is and that a guard or a warden or another prisoner could do a terrible thing to you because you really are not your own person.
You're almost like a baby in terms of your absolute vulnerability.
So I would be terrified if he actually did go to prison.
I agree with you though.
They want to send him there.
I'm also thinking about these things because for the first time in my life, I myself am under police investigation for rebel news.
And I don't think it's likely that a conviction would happen.
I don't even think a prosecution is going to happen, but the police chief himself has announced it.
So I got to get hard, Mark.
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I got to work on my fitness.
I got to get ready for, in case I myself go to the clink.
I'm, of course, half joking.
Listen, it's great to see you.
I think the world, the pendulum is turning.
I believe we've had bad news for four years straight in America.
In Canada, it's been eight years straight.
But I do think that hope is coming.
And it's a battle of inches.
It's a battle in the trenches.
And that's what I like about climatepot.com is you are relentless.