Ezra Levant interviews Andrew Lawton, author of Pierre Poilievre: A Political Life, the first conservative biography of Canada’s rising Conservative leader, debunking mainstream media narratives. Lawton reveals Poilievre’s early pro-freedom essays like Building Canada Through Freedom and his sharp critiques of figures such as Ralph Klein in teenage letters, while praising his wife Anna—a Venezuelan refugee and political strategist—as a game-changer compared to past conservative spouses. The book’s shift from ignored to mainstream (30 CBC interviews) mirrors Poilievre’s surge, proving conservative perspectives now demand attention, reshaping Canada’s political discourse. [Automatically generated summary]
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All right, here's my interview with Andrew Lawton.
Tonight, a feature interview with Andrew Lawton about his best-selling book about Pierre Polyev.
It's June 19th, and this is the answer of that show.
Shame on you, you censorious thug.
You know, they say history is written by the winners.
That's why the good guys win all the battles because the bad guys aren't left there to tell their own story.
One of the things that frustrates me as a Canadian, and this has been the case for decades, is that the stories of our conservative or freedom-oriented heroes were written by their opponents.
So, when Stephen Harper was the prime minister, there was an orgy of attack books about him.
How dare conservatives have a champion?
He must have his name blackened.
And I just think it's the same in comedy, the same in filmmaking, the same in TV shows.
For some reason, those cultural industries are overwhelmingly left-wing or at best liberal.
Very few conservatives in that space.
And so, when someone from our side, and by our side, I don't mean a partisan conservative.
I mean someone who just cares about freedom, cares about ordinary folks, not just the incumbent elites.
When someone from our side actually writes a book about, for example, Pierre Polyev, the leader of the Conservative Party and the likely next prime minister, I think it behooves us to say, this is a miracle.
It's a unicorn.
We have to support it because when has that ever happened?
And so, you may know that I am introducing our favorite guy, author, journalist, my friend Andrew Lawton, because he just wrote a book called Pierre Polyev, A Political Life, and it's a bestseller.
Andrew Lawton, great to see you again.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
You're a good writer.
You're a good journalist.
You're a professional.
It's a good book on its own merits.
But I want to tell you the truth, even if it wasn't a good book, I would still say it behooves every conservative to buy it because we need conservative.
And I don't mean that like you're a party man.
Yeah.
No, it's a small C, conservatism, yes.
So how did you know that this book was going to be so needed?
When did you, was it when Polyev became the new leader and you thought, okay, we've got to tell the story?
It was during the leadership race.
So just as a bit of context, I wrote a book about the Freedom Convoy in 2022, and that book just became this huge success, even though Indigo had blacklisted it.
The mainstream media would not give it a lick of attention.
And it was epistolic book.
They blackballed it.
It was the number one bestseller for, I think, seven weeks.
And that's on the Globe and the Toronto Star.
And they wouldn't even review it.
They wouldn't even review it.
So I think what it showed there is what you said, that there is an appetite for these stories in Canada, irrespective of what the media says is the official title of the summer.
And I think in general, there's also an issue in Canada and that we don't have people telling these stories.
In the U.S., you know, you have political columnists and talk radio people and Fox personalities that are releasing a book a year.
Not all of them are good, but they're committed to doing it.
And there's a market.
You're building the pipeline, at least.
Yeah, you got a choice.
Whereas in Canada, who are the conservative historians?
I mean, Tom Flanagan wrote about the Harper campaign in 2004 and 2006 afterwards, but that was basically it.
So few.
Yeah.
So few.
And so for me, when I was watching the leadership rallies that Polyev held, these rallies that would bring out thousands of people, I was looking around and seeing, much like I had seen with the Freedom Convoy, there's something bigger here that's happening that needs to be explained.
And that was sort of when the idea started.
As he became the leader, as I saw that momentum continue, as I saw Polyev really campaigned as a very different type of person from his predecessors and as a different person in Canadian politics, I was pretty convinced there's a story here that needs to be told to introduce this guy to Canadians before the mainstream media gets their hands on him.
You know, I think one of the most important things you did in the book, and I'd like your reaction to this, is you didn't just digest what had already been written about the guy.
Because like I say, that's got a bias built in because it would be written by CBC, Canadian Press, Toronto Star.
So if you were just going to say, well, all I know about Pierre Polyev is what's being published to date, even if you try and have a balanced book, it's not going to be balanced because garbage in, garbage out.
You did a ton of primary research, by which I mean interviewing people.
Even interviewing people.
I mean, you talk to me.
Even you.
Even you.
You're a part of that.
I know, because I knew the guy.
I mean, I worked with him 20 plus years ago.
So you did meticulous research.
I wanted you to talk about that because with books like this, people say, oh, I already know about Pierre Polly.
Do you?
Or do you just know what the CBC and Althea Raj and Rosemary Barton say about him?
Because if you're just consuming the news, you have one perspective.
Give me some examples of things that you uncovered or discovered that are not part of the common discussion of Pierre Polyev.
So I didn't want it to just be his Wikipedia page to send it to book form where it just takes any mention of him in the news and throws it together in a timeline.
At the same time, I also know that Polyev's success in part has been because he's brought new people into politics.
So I wanted it to be accessible in a way that it does cover old ground for people that don't know anything about him.
Some of it will be repetitive.
But there was a focus that I had on talking to people that have been involved, not just going back to when he was elected in 2004, but before then.
I mean, people may not know even in your own audience that he was your communications director when you were an alliance candidate.
He was young and I was young.
Yeah, and that was just this chaotic time in Canadian politics.
And that was something that had to be in the book.
And that's something that a lot of people, it's out there, but a lot of people now in your audience and in his might not have known.
I forgot about some of that.
You did.
I was telling you stuff when I sat down to interview you.
It's not that I had to co-written an article with him.
Yeah.
It's like, I had asked you for a copy and you were like trying to find, you were looking in the same place as I was.
Let me interject and tell you, I've known Pierpolyev, as you've just indicated, for almost 30 years.
And what I tell people who ask me about him, I say, look, no one knows what's in a man's heart.
But he has been saying the same principled things since he was in college.
So maybe he'll have a change of heart when he's in power.
I don't know.
We can't predict the future.
But if past behavior is a predictor of future behavior, I've known him since he was in his early 20s.
And he has been saying the same thing ever since his outbreak.
And I would actually go even before then because when you talk about things that I found that weren't really part of the public discourse already, I found letters to the editor he wrote even as a teenager, an op-ed he would write for the Calgary Herald here and there.
And he had not just a principled conservatism back then when he was talking about, you know, opposing the capital gains tax to bring it into the current context and other things like, you know, small government.
He was even criticizing conservative leaders at the time.
That takes some courage for a youngster.
Yeah, including the Ralph Klein government.
I mean, Ralph Klein is held up as being this, you know, granddaddy of Western conservatism, but Pauliev was saying publicly, well, there are these people in this party that aren't actually real conservatives.
And for a guy that wanted to work in politics, that was a pretty bold, maybe foolish, but I'd say pretty bold thing.
So going back to even his teenage years, he was saying the exact same things he's saying now on the issues that matter and on that core idea and on freedom.
I mean, he wrote an essay in university, which the prompt that he was given was, as prime minister, I would.
Right.
That was a contest, wasn't it?
Yeah, and he was a finalist.
He didn't win.
He was a finalist.
But the title of his essay, and it was run by Magna, was Building Canada Through Freedom.
And I got my hands on that essay.
You read the essay and even some of the phrases are almost identical to things he said when he announced his leadership run in 2022.
Wow.
And that was, of course, 25 years later, 23 years later.
You know, on the one hand, that shows a remarkable focus and continuity and reliability, and that's a sign of character.
What about those who would say, well, look, even since he was a lad in diapers, he was thinking about politics.
He's a political creature through and through.
He wasn't a small businessman.
He wasn't in the art.
I guess it's an American experience more than a Canadian one, I regret.
What do you think about that?
I mean, and I'm not knocking it.
I'm just saying you remind me that even when he was a student, he was this way.
Yeah.
What do you think of that?
No, it's a fair criticism.
And, you know, the book is subtitled A Political Life for a Reason because his life has been about politics.
He had a very brief stint working, you know, in the private sector.
He didn't really build a career there.
He was a staffer and then he was a candidate.
And then for the last 20 years, he's been a member of parliament.
I think it's a legitimate criticism, and I think we- I don't even think I'm saying it was a criticism.
Well, I think it is a legitimate criticism because on one hand, he's talking about the ordinary middle class experiences of Canadians.
Most Canadians haven't been making a six-figure salary since their 20s.
But I also point out that the career politician label tends to be overlooked when people like the politics of the person.
And it's the kind of thing when you're going after a liberal, you say, oh, he's a career politician.
When you're going after a conservative, you say, oh, he's a career politician.
But you only do it if you don't like them.
That tends to be it.
I think I was more interested not in making a judgment of is that good or bad.
I was more interested in figuring out why it was.
And I talked to some of the people that had worked with him very early on in his career.
And it was interesting that That he had actually spoken to the MP he sat next to when he took his seat for the first time, Joe Preston, and said, you know, Joe, I'm a little bit concerned that, you know, you're here, you're a business guy.
I don't have that experience.
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What can I do to learn a little bit more about that?
And it was some of those conversations that led him to invest in property and just have something that wasn't politics on the side.
So you'd have to worry about paperwork and taxes and just all the things that an owner of something has to be.
Yeah, and he was aware that it was a bit of a blind spot, that it was a bit of a gap in his experience.
And he had also, at one point, which I found fascinating, and again, had never been reported elsewhere, talked to someone who had volunteered on his campaign about leaving politics, about serving a couple of terms, leaving, and then coming back and maybe being finance minister or heaven forbid, prime minister.
And there was a realization that sunk in.
This was the sense that I got that, well, if I leave, what if my seat's not there when I come back?
What if it's not actually as easy to transition back into it?
So I could see how he ended up in that path dependency.
And again, the book is not to make a pro or anti-Polyev point.
It's just to talk about who he is and tell that story.
And as a result, as I started writing it, it really became a history of the modern conservative movement and how this group of ragtag folks in Alberta reform politics became really the Conservative Party of Canada we know today.
You know, I want to ask you about that because I knew him as a young guy from Calgary when I was slightly less young guy from Calgary.
And one of the things that has always frustrated Westerners, and I remember this being a topic of discussion in the Reform Party, was how to get ahead in the federal government, you needed to be French-English bilingual.
And the odds of being bilingual, if you're born and raised in Calgary or Saskatchewan, pretty low.
Odds of being bilingual if you're in Montreal is pretty high.
And so that was regarded as a kind of systemic barrier to Westerners.
When and how did Pierre Polyev learn French?
And his French, I mean, it's not perfect, but it's better than Joe Clark's French.
It's miles better than Preston Manning's French.
How is his French?
What's the Quebec part of this story?
That's the one province he's not leading in the polls, which you can forgive a guy from Alberta for not leaving the polls.
Even with a name like Pierre Polyev.
And I love, you know, I got to tell you, there's some politicians from Quebec I despise.
Stephen Gilbeau is an example.
But to listen to Gilbo, he says, Pierre Poinier, like he really says it in a French way.
And in a tiny way, that's a show of respect.
Like he saw it saying Pierre Polyev.
Like he's not trying to, like, there is something about the Laurentian elite that if you try and speak French and they'll give you a touch of respect.
And I hate to give any credit to Stephen Gilbo.
Pierre Polyev is a heck of a French name.
How is his French?
How is he doing in Quebec?
And how do Quebecers regard him?
Would you touch on that?
So his father's family is of Franco-Saskatchewan lineage.
I think it's his father's grandfather immigrated to Saskatchewan from France.
Wait, so a long time ago.
Yeah, and Polyev's father is, again, he grew up in the West.
He's not a native Francophone, but he thought French was important.
He actually tried to instill in Polyev when he was young a bit of that foundation.
Now, like a lot of other kids from Alberta, Polyev had very little interest in it.
And, you know, anything he learned, he had lost by the time he was working for Stockwell Day in Ottawa.
And it was only when he was a candidate and actually when he got elected that he started to realize, hey, you know, I should probably learn French, which I think in Canada is synonymous with having political ambition.
That's right.
You learn the language.
And, you know, people remember Preston Manning.
Well, maybe they don't.
Preston Manning had to just do this painful, meaningful debate in the, basically reading a prepared statement because that was all he knew.
You know what?
It's hard for someone to, it's hard for anyone to learn a language later in life.
Kids sop up languages like crazy.
In fact, it's sort of fun to see bilingual kids.
If a mom speaks this and a dad speaks that, a kid might speak three languages.
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When you're 20, 30, 40, good luck to you.
Well, and Poly Ev's kids are basically trilingual because they're, yeah, his wife is very fluent in French and Spanish.
And so basically, they're learning all three of them.
Give me a little bit about her because I, you know, the first I saw her was at the leadership race when she gave a big speech.
To me, she looks great.
She sounds great.
She is a walking-talking rebuttal to you're racist.
You're against foreigners.
You're against, well, like she is such an asset.
And give us a word about her.
I don't know much about her.
I don't either.
I know what I've seen and what I've learned.
And what's interesting, I'll say it's a bit of context in that Polyeb is unique in using his spouse.
And I don't mean that in a negative way, but deploying his spouse in politics.
Lorene Harper, I think, did maybe one interview in the entire time Harper was prime minister.
Yeah, and Jill Scheer, you know, was at events, but not a household name.
And Rebecca O'Toole, you know, Aaron O'Toole's wife.
I mean, these are all spouses who were there and they were supportive, but they were never doing events.
They were never doing tours.
They were never starring in ads in the way that Anna is.
And her story is compelling.
She's, you know, from, she's a refugee from Venezuela.
She's escaped that socialist hellhole that is that country because Canada offered her family a better life.
And she's also very telegenic.
She's very well-spoken.
She is very feisty.
If you see, I mean, her speech at the Conservative Convention just lit the whole crowd up.
You know what?
That was the moment for me.
I guess it's partly because she herself was a stapper.
So the political life, the political communications, she's aware of it.
Yeah, and she was, there's a fair bit in the book about how they met and how they started dating.
It's been a little polarizing to women who have read it because Poly Ev had a confidence about it that he reached out to her because they had met because she was working on the Hill and he was an MP.
And she eventually emailed him because they had agreed she would email his parliamentary email address.
And he didn't ask her out.
He gave her a date, a time, and a place.
And she showed up.
And the rest is history.
I think that's sometimes how it works.
I could never fold that.
Love will find a way.
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Now, I want to talk about something that has surprised me in a good way.
I started off by saying our side does not write the history.
We don't write the books, the TV, the movies, the documentaries.
I mean, we're starting to a tiny bit, but it's a drop in the bucket.
Your book is published by Sutherland House, which is a little bit right of center, I would call it, compared to the other.
I would say they're non-political, but they publish the right of center.
Exactly.
They're not against it.
Their boss is Ken White, who was the founding editor of the National Post, was the guy who breathed conservative life into McLean's magazine.
So he's tolerant of the right.
He doesn't deride it.
Any publishing house that published your trucker book, I mean, most publishers wouldn't touch it because they would not be invited to cocktail parts.
I'll give your publisher credit, and obviously credit to you in the book.
You've actually, this is, you got to give it credit when you see it.
You've actually had mainstream media interviews.
Your book has not been blacklisted this time, like your trucker book.
No, no.
Give us some heartening news and let's hear it.
Tell us the surprises and we'll just marvel at it.
It's funny.
So The Freedom Convoy was my first book, and I was so excited.
I wanted to be an author for so much in my life.
But what had happened was the book was coming out.
I cleared like three weeks of my schedule because I knew that I was just going to be morning-to-night interviews.
I was going to be speaking places.
And then, you know, basically.
CBC would have you all.
Yeah, crickets, crickets.
I did your show.
I did podcasts and I was grateful for it.
It absolutely helped, but no interest at all.
But the sales were through the roof.
When I saw the interview request pouring in for this book, I was worried that, oh, maybe that means it won't sell because maybe there's an inverse relationship.
But no, I've done 30 interviews with CBC.
I believe it.
30.
That is hard to believe.
I've power every single CBC radio show across or every radio station.
And are their questions at least fair enough?
Yeah, I mean, for the CBC radio ones, the questions were pretty much identical in every market because there was a script.
And I don't mean that in a critical way, but they basically say, here are the main points.
But I did Power and Politics and had a great time with David Cochran.
I did, you know, The House with Catherine Cullen.
I, you know, slipped in a couple of references to Polyev wanting to defund the CBC.
I did not go over it.
Pretty well, because they know it too.
And to be fair, I think CBC had a, there was one thing that worked in my favor, which was the same day my book came out, a book about Justin Trudeau came out as well.
And you can't hide from one and cover the other.
Oh, the CBC can if they wanted to.
Yeah, but I think they would have realized that the stakes were very high.
That's the thing because they've got to be, maybe they're trying to be slightly better behaved because they know a new boss is coming to town.
Maybe.
And I think that, generally speaking, there was a sense that I got from the reporters that I spoke to that they genuinely want to understand.
You're the first book on the guy.
And you probably had access to sources.
Like if the CBC were to call me up saying, hey, what about that op-ed you co-authored with Polyev 30 years ago?
I would probably respond and get a certain point.
Yeah, it's fair.
And look, Paul Wells, who I've always gotten along with well, I did an interview on his podcast, and he had basically said, well, anytime I told anyone you were writing the book, they would all just roll their eyes because it's basically going to be this hagiography.
And I said, well, first off, it's not.
There are things in the book that I'm sure Polyev doesn't like and things that he does like.
But more crucially, because of my investment in the right-of-center world in this country, there were people who took my calls, like you said, that wouldn't have taken the call of some Toronto star or CBC reporter.
And as a result, even if you don't like Pauli Ev, my book has a much deeper view of who he is and what world he inhabits because of who I am.
I'm sure that every single opposition war room member of the Liberal Party has read it.
And of course, the Liberal, sorry, the CBC, in my mind, is just an auxiliary to the Liberal Party opposition war room.
So they'll all have read it out of genuine interest and to scour for things.
Yeah, the indigo across the street from Parliament Hill has been like sold out pretty much every day.
They get more in.
So it's all the staffers and journalists that are going to buy them.
And I just want to hear this because I share your happiness for this.
The Dopptional Post ran an excerpt in an article.
The Toronto Star had phenomenal coverage.
They ran, I think, three separate stories.
They out and a fact.
The Globe and Mail had a review.
Now, the review was not particularly favorable.
It wasn't mentioned.
If they hated you, they'd try to describe you awesome.
And they published an excerpt as well.
One that came up.
So, no, it's been good.
So I think the mainstream media realizes what's happening.
Any dates on TV?
I didn't know.
I did, well, I power in politics on CBC, and I did an interview on Global as well.
I'll start pestering.
I think it's very encouraging.
No, it is.
And look, it's funny.
I did an interview with a newspaper in Ottawa, the Hill Times.
And one of the questions the reporter asked is, well, on one hand, you criticize the mainstream media, but here you are using them to promote your book.
And it wasn't asked in a nasty way, but I said, my issue with the mainstream media is that they are not spending time talking about these things or talking to people like me.
So I would go on CBC every week if they want.
My frustration with them is that they're setting aside a part of the country.
So I'm not going to boycott the mainstream media irrespective of whether there's a book, because my whole point is that we need to be on that platform.
Well, that's right.
You know, you make me, I mean, all this talk about things 20, 30 years ago.
There was a time when when I lived in Calgary, whenever I was coming to Toronto for whatever reason, I would tell the CBC and they would put me on just because they were so desperate for Western conservative content.
There was a show, I don't know if you remember, maybe it was before your time, called Face Off.
It was like the American show Crossfire.
Okay.
You had a permanent guest on the left, Judy Rebbeck.
Sorry, permanent host.
Permanent host on the left, Judy Rebbeck, formerly the head of the National Action Committee on Status Women.
You had a permanent host on the right, Claire Hoy, a conservative commentator.
And each show, they would bring on.
He was the Hannity and she was the Corps.
That's true.
But they would bring in guests two at a time, a liberal and conservative.
So in Toronto, they were always trying to get a Western conservative voice.
The idea that there would be a show with a built-in conservative voice is unthinkable today.
By the way, they replaced Crossfire with Abby Lewis' own show.
I mean, talk about a sign of their change.
So those early days, anyway, this is off topic from your book, but I do remember when the CBC at least went through the motions of having another point of view.
So I'm glad that you're back on.
Yeah, because the problem with a lot of these panels is that you tune in and the panel is Althea Raj, Chantale Bear, and Andrew Coyne.
And it's like, well, who's representing the conservative viewpoint?
I mean, Andrew Coyne, I guess.
Geographically, that's all the way from Toronto to Montreal.
Yeah, yeah.
We don't even go to Bathurst, I don't think.
I think it ends at Young Street as far as Toronto.
And just all the opinions from A to B, Holsby, it's incredible.
I'm glad you're doing that book.
And tell us, so when you got cooking for it, you've done the media rounds.
I'm thrilled to hear it.
Are you doing any events like a book?
Oh, I've done a few.
We launched it in Calgary, which I thought was so fitting because that's where Poly Ev himself was launched.
We had a phenomenal event on Parliament Hill.
We were in Toronto.
I'm actually off to Winnipeg right after this interview to do an event there.
So that's the other thing that I never got with the Freedom Convoy.
I never had a book tour of sorts.
So it's been good.
So there's a tremendous amount of interest.
And I think part of that is because there is a momentum right now that in conservative politics there hasn't been for the last nine years.
And even if someone is not voting for Polyeb, you can't deny that the Conservative Party is looking and feeling a lot different right now than it has been the last two elections.
And I give the Truckers some obvious credit for that.
It was the Truckers who forced the issue.
Aaron O'Toole played it wrong.
He was defenestrated by his own caucus.
And sorry to interrupt there, but when you mentioned Aaron O'Toole, the number of conservative caucus members that I spoke to, members of parliament, for this book was sizable.
The way that Aaron O'Toole is viewed and spoken about by that group wouldn't surprise you, probably would delight you.
But they're not, his name is Mudd in that caucus.
And that's something that as well in this book, I think shines through.
Some of these comments were on background, so I couldn't quote them and certainly couldn't name them.
But there has been a changeover where a lot of people really, really are so happy that he is a figure of the past.
Yeah.
Well, I'm one of them.
And I mean, such as me having a Biden moment, sometimes I forget his name.
I think he was a placeholder in history.
We won't linger on him.
Well, listen, we have something called Rebel News Live once a year in Toronto, once a year in Calgary.
Consider this an invitation if you haven't received one already.
I think I'm going to be at the Calgary real quick if I've agreed.
Bring your books.
Love to sell them to our people for you.
I'm really glad you're doing this.
I'm so glad you're filling this cultural void.
There's a lot of pundits and bloggers and YouTubers and podcasters out there, but to write a book and publish it, the authoritative book, the first book, the book that even the bad guys at the CBC read is an important accomplishment.
As I started the interview, who writes our history?
Who writes our biographies?
Imagine if Althea Raj had been the first one with a book on Pierre Polyev.
Imagine if that Cochrane fellow, the CBCer, was the first.
I think it's incredibly important that you set the default.
And others will publish books too, and that's great.
But you were first, and that's very important culturally.
Folks, you can get a copy of the book on Amazon.
We'll put a link under this video.
Do you have a special page you want to refer to or is Amazon?
No, just look up Amazon, Pierre Polyev, A Political Life.
It's also available on Indigo, but Amazon, it'll be at your door probably the next day.
Right.
Well, listen, at the beginning, I sort of half-joked that even if it was a crappy book, I would say buy it just to support the phenomenon.
But I think you know Andrew Lawton and his excellent work at True North and before that and other publications to know it's not a crappy book.
It's a deeply researched book.
It's a book with new facts that you only get by interviewing people, not just by Google searching.
And the fact that it is breaking down barriers and the fact that you've been interviewed 30 times is amazing to me.
I think it's important that we support this book.
And by we, I mean you and me.
And by support, I mean buying the book.
Buy it to read it, but buy it to support it.
And buy it to send a signal that Canadians want to hear the other side of the story.
You know, that's our motto, telling the other side of the story.
Today, the guy who's telling the other side of the story on Pierre Polyev is Andrew Lawton.
The book is called Pierre Polyev, A Political Life.
It's great to see you, Minford.
Thank you so much, Ezra.
All right.
There you have it.
Well, that's our show for today.
What a pleasure.
Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you and all.