Robbie Picard, a Fort McMurray resident and advocate for the oil industry, reflects on Alberta’s 2024 wildfires threatening his home eight years after the devastating 2016 blaze. While evacuating from Levac, Ontario, he praises Mayor Jody Butts and Premier Danielle Smith for their leadership, contrasting them with critics like NDP MP Charlie Angus, who he accuses of hypocrisy for blaming oil companies while dismissing their fire-safety contributions. Picard highlights Fort McMurray’s 97% tax reliance on oil and gas, defends industry-backed building materials, and critiques elite politicians’ policies, including comparisons to Jagmeet Singh. He also condemns anti-Israel protests at the University of Ottawa, calling them "Hitler’s hobos," while urging viewers to share feedback independently of Trudeau’s government, framing wildfires as a clash between pragmatic energy workers and detached progressive rhetoric. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, it's fire season again here in Alberta, which means it's blame it all on climate change season.
And I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
You've even been loosely paying attention to Alberta for the last decade or so.
But since always, spring means fire season.
Grass fires, bushfires, forest fires.
It's what the forest does to renew itself, burns down.
It's caused by lightning.
It's caused largely by human activity.
But that's what happens when you plunk a bunch of people into the world's first or second largest, depending on how you measure it.
Continuous forest, you know, the boreal forest.
It encompasses so much of Alberta, including where I live, but also Fort McMurray.
Fort McMurray, Alberta had a major fire that swept through the town about eight years ago.
It burned down my guest's house, and the town is sort of being licked by flames again.
People are under evacuation notice.
The province is, as it generally is this time of year, blanketed with smoke.
And people are taking precautions.
But that also means the ghouls of the world, the climate change hucksters, are happy to take advantage of this scary time for a lot of people to push their radical climate change agenda.
One of those ghouls is NDP MP Charlie Angus, who recently tweeted a picture of Fort McMurray with flames outside of the city.
And he said, Exxon knew in the 1980s, Imperial Oil knew in the 1980s, Shell knew in the 1980s.
Their reports predicted the climate catastrophe that is upending life today.
They just never bothered to tell the people in Fort McMurray who are living with the consequences of peak CO2.
He's blaming the very people who produce the oil and gas for the fire threatening their homes.
He doesn't say, however, that it will be the oil and gas sector that will muster resources to help save Fort McMurray one more time.
He also doesn't say it is the safety training provided by the oil and gas sector that will ensure that people, by and large, will be unscathed during the fire emergency in Fort McMurray.
It's why there was no loss of life related directly to the fire during the last major fire in Fort McMurray.
He doesn't say that it is the oil and gas sector that is bringing up resources to Fort McMurray right now on the highways so that firefighters have a place to stay.
It's never the hippies and the tree huggers working to save these communities.
They're just on the internet blaming the communities for what could be their fate.
Without acknowledging, once again, that Fort McMurray is plunked right in the middle of the boreal forest and the boreal forest burns.
That's what it does to renew itself.
They tell me to follow the science, but they never ever do.
Joining me today is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong and Oil and Gas World magazine.
He's a staunch advocate for oil and gas.
He's had it with Charlie Angus and he's under evacuation notice himself.
Let's hear what he has to say.
My good friend Robbie Picard.
However, he's not in his usual haunt of Fort McMurray.
He's somewhere else and he is definitely someplace else, not in his usual office.
Robbie, tell me what you're doing.
Where are you?
Well, I'm in Levac, Ontario, which is a small town just outside of Sudbury.
After a bit of a hiatus and the great, amazing oil and gas world slash oil sound strong bus, I'm back on the road and doing maybe a little bit of advocacy, giving out stickers and talking to regular Canadians, interviewing them to the magazine and hearing their stories.
And it's kind of been really kind of refreshing.
Like when I picked up the bus, the bus has been in Sudbury for a little while.
There was actually a seeing me off group that all changed and they were they watched the bus was in kind of like secured storage area.
And I didn't realize how many people appreciated the bus and even chased down a guy that tried to break into it throughout the course when it was parked.
And it's been a really nice and the amount of this bus alone, just the amount of talk and support that I've received has been has been excellent.
So what are you doing with the bus?
You said you're doing oil and gas advocacy and interviewing people.
What do you mean by interviewing people?
So I stopped along the road and I try to find people that are interesting and I tell their stories.
So if it's, you know, like people that have, in some ways, oil and gas has, you know, changed their lives.
It doesn't have to be necessarily an oil and gas story.
I interview interesting people.
I interviewed one guy from an antique store.
One guy that I met was millions and millions.
And another person that actually moved back is Sudbury, retired from working in Alberta, which is interesting because Sudbury is kind of a mining thing.
And then my big plan is to eventually get this bus on the water.
I have a few MPs places and sell my merch along the way and interview people along the way.
So that's essentially what it's doing.
And I'm hoping to head there pretty quick to a specific place that's three and some hours north of here.
However, you know, there's these different situations going on right now.
So I'm a little bit kind of nimble.
Let's talk about the situations that are going on right now because while you were out on the road in Ontario, and I really like, I saw you over the weekend.
Yeah, you were, I think, one of the most well-received speakers at our Rebel News Live event, as you always are.
But as you and I were sitting there, you got an alert saying you were under evacuation notice one more time in Fort McCurry because of the wildfires.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Well, it's, you know, I'll be honest, I'm trying to like not lose my mind.
So, um, and I, and as you know, the last fire, I didn't hold any punches.
I was pissed off.
I was pissed off at the mayor at the time, the city, and the province.
And frankly, I still am.
This time, not as much.
I feel like, so it's sort of like 2016 over again.
My, my, one of my staff that works for me, his home with his wife and his two kids is literally the same area that my house broke down, you know, eight years ago.
However, um, it's a different kind of fire, and I really truly believe they have it handled.
Um, it is there a risk 100%.
Um, and smoke is very dark.
What it is, is that there's this kind of the new growth.
It's not the last fire was very scary because it had these pine trees that were surrounded at town and it kind of created this jumping effect.
And that's why it went so fast.
This one's more like a bushfire, kind of like you have in Saskatchewan about Bernie, don't get us worked up.
It's just so much stuff, right?
So I'm, you know, my old neighborhood where my office, Robbie Cardinius, has been evacuated, but there are kind of people are still there.
A lot of people have not left.
I'm not overly concerned.
I am headed home faster than I wanted to because I have a business to run and to support, you know, my staff and be there to handle, you know, because we have lots to do.
But I'm not overly worked up about it.
I feel like our mayor, and I'm not just saying this because he's my friend.
I really believe he is a kick-ass mayor.
And I think they have an understanding.
I do believe they've learned from the past.
But after this is over, I do think we need to really look at like building a proper fire break around Fort McMurray.
Like lots of cities have.
As I travel around the country, I'm noticing a lot of cities that have been around longer than Fort McMurray and they have better infrastructure than we do.
We have a lot of stuff, but we need to really think about how to make a community that's a bit more like happy successfulness.
Now, you know, everyone getting all the questions, like, you think this is mass climate change?
I still believe in my heart of hearts that the forest is meant to burn every 20 to 30 years and burns and it burns again.
If you look at other countries around the world that have addressed their forest issues and proper forest, that's fine.
But when you put cities, forests are meant to burning, you're going to see us all beautiful in a couple of years.
So I'm not overly worked up.
I'm definitely like, you know, it does bring back memories here.
I want to make sure that everybody there is safe and okay.
But I'm not, you know, I'm in a weird spot right now because like I'm back on the road in Ontario, which has taken a lot longer than it was supposed to get the bus started up.
And I need to go home again.
And the last time I had the bus in Ontario, you know, I had to go home and I thought I was coming back in a couple of weeks.
And then that was a year and a half later.
Yeah, you know, I'm glad you mentioned that, you know, the fear mongers immediately get on like, oh, this is climate change.
They don't see it.
And they say, you know, like this just keeps happening over and over and over again in Canada.
Yeah, because we live in the boreal forest, which is like the world's first or second largest continuous forest.
And we have, especially in the West here, forest communities that are plunked right in the middle of it.
So of course, you have these small cities in the middle of the world's largest continuous forest.
Of course, they're going to be exposed to forest fires in a way that you don't see in other countries.
And yet, of course, the scaremongers push this idea that it's climate change, climate change, climate change instead of just the normal cycle of the forest that you don't see in other places without the boreal forest.
Well, yeah.
And it goes to show you too, like one thing that like I'm, I'm trying to be a little more level-headed than last time, but at the same time, like, like Charlie Angus made that post and like somehow, like, there, he's like, I really don't like that guy.
I think he's a giant dinge bag.
And I really, truly like, cannot wait to drive my bus close to his office.
I mean, it might be a little delayed now.
But I saw his tweets and I thought that was just such a, it just comes from a guy who's, you know, a long-standing 20-year politician, a sweet ass who has really never had to do real work in this life.
Other places should be banned.
And I really like, one thing I will say that I love about Ontario is the vast majority.
I'm not even talking minorities or us and what our pipelines they want.
Canada's amazing, our GDP under, like I, the liberals did this under protest.
They didn't want to do this pipeline, they had to.
And I mean, I bet you they're thanking the gods right now because their disastrous management of our budget when the Trans Mountain opened up, the GDP went up a little bit and that's some good news.
And uh, Ontario and you know, when I spoke in Toronto, like one of the things I said and I understand, but it's just like Alberta is the heart of this country and pump natal oil, which feeds the arteries, feeds the entire thing and it's really nice to see that the average Canadians and the people here at Sudbury Sudbury is a similar town to Fort McMurray, a very big mining town as an industry uh, doesn't really crash on it.
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You know, they always keep mines going somewhat.
It's an interesting place, but everyone here supports us, so i'm, i'm hoping that uh, you know, I think this uh Fire Mcmurray is gonna be short-lived.
And then uh, i'll get back on the bus and I will complete the tour and it's and I I I, I feel like you know, I love, I love this the pace on the bus and I I stop.
I talk to communities, I have coffee with people, I interview them.
If i'm interviewing, you know, some multi-billionaire celebrity, I guess the same treatment as just you know Susie at the coffee shop there, and it's been an eye-opening experience.
So you know um, and I, you know, obviously i'm thinking about home and i'm not worried, like you know, my partners, like my dogs and my famous turtles I got world famous turtles.
You know that are rescue turtles and uh uh, everything's fine and but but I, I feel good I I we, we have a great mayor, we have a great fire uh chief, and what I love about this round for the restaurant, I don't see a lot of egos on the people in the podiums.
I just see this is the update, this is what you do, this is how we're going to help you, and the last fire was just too many like oh, i'm this one and i'm this, i'm that shit's over.
Our mayor's a down-to-earth guy.
Our fire chief's good.
Our ceo, Henry's good, you know.
So I, I think they got a handle on this now.
I mean, i'm not there at this moment.
I will be probably tomorrow morning and uh, we'll see how it plays out.
But I, I in my heart of hearts, I feel strong that we're in a good position and I trust the people there that they will do the best that they can.
Um, they're on it like the last fire, you know, eight years ago, you know I, I don't believe they were on it and and we live in a forest, in For Mcmurray, I mean, and that's the reality, like where I live now, I would say, I mean, you just, you know, you could throw a baseball and tree like it's even now, like in that.
So if we're gonna live in the forest, like you got to find a way to manage it, so it doesn't it's and here's the problem like fire happens and then it doesn't happen.
And then you get all these people like well, I want my trees.
Well, you got to look at it from a thing and bluntly, how houses are made, like you know, when I was in Toronto I was super impressed.
Like they are better at building houses in Toronto than we are in Alberta.
I mean vinyl siding and plywood, Like that's the Alberta house.
So, going forward, we need to build more fireproof, right?
And I think that's something to look at in the future, right?
Because, you know, even my house now has vinyl side.
So, I mean, like, you gotta, we gotta build fire for, and I get you want trees in the city too.
So, you gotta plant trees smart, nurture the trees to make sure they grow, but you don't want a bunch of pine trees that can, you know, like they create like wood gasoline.
Yeah, I remember last time around with the NDP and power they had leading up to the fire season, they cut egg and forestry, which covers the water bomber contracts.
They meddled in the water bomber contracts, and then the water bombers, the guys got to pay the bills, they signed on with other provinces and it left the province in a difficult position to elicit water bombers to deal with the fire season in 2016.
And it was terrible.
I have more confidence in the provincial government now than I did then.
Yeah.
And Danielle Smith, I mean, people can say whatever they want about her, but I've never in my life seen a politician with more balls to get stuff done.
I mean, I had the privilege of sitting with her prior to her being premier.
We went to Boston, Peace, a couple years ago.
And I mean, that woman is incredible.
And this is why I'm not as an as I was before.
Because I know that my mayor is amazing.
I know our premier has our back.
Careless about the oil industry.
Here's Fort McMurray.
And I mean, she is fighting this chauvinistic tyrant in Ottawa.
They're just trying to like, I mean, this thing typical, like for the climate change, fighting climate change.
Okay, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second here.
In the 90s, this town almost went.
In the 70s, the town almost went.
Fort McMurray is surrounded by forests that burns.
I think we need to, if I was to critique, and this is not an immediate critique, we need to build a city that can handle this without a lot of worry.
And I think we have the technology to do it.
I mean, you don't see, like, here's a real point.
Like, if you go, like, when we did tour the fire a few years ago, you go by the Mormon church, it went through with a Beacon Hill, right?
You know, you can make arguments that, you know, that it was protected by God, which, you know, it was, but at the same time, the brick and the tin and all that, Shaw Cable went through the Beacon Hill fire, too.
It still stood.
It'll stand again.
How we build our homes matters, right?
And I think that's part of the tier.
Like, I mean, you go through like, we don't build homes in Alberta in general.
Very fire resistant.
We build them with cheap plywood and insulation.
And I mean, and you know me, but like, I'm not a big fan of vinyl plank floors.
I mean, why do people cover perfectly good hardwood with vinyl plank?
Mind you, I can make that argument that wood burns, but it will burn a little slower.
The vinyl plank just takes off.
So my point is, is we could do better.
Well, but we try to build things affordably here as opposed to the rest of the country.
But let's, you mentioned Charlie Angus's tweet.
I want to go back to that because there's a point I want to make.
And I wonder if you'll agree with me.
So Charlie Angus, the city of Fort McMurray is under evacuation notice.
People are scared.
They're scared because they went through this very recently.
Charlie Angus decides, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to blame the people in Fort McMurray who work in the oil and gas sector.
So we've got him saying Exxon knew in the 1980s, Imperial Oil new in the 1980s, Shell new in the 1980s.
Their reports predicted the climate catastrophe that is upending life today.
Okay, Charlie.
They never bothered to tell the people in Fort McMurray who are living with the consequences of peak CO2.
What a vulgar tweet.
Because basically, he's attacking the very people whose houses are burning down because they have the audacity to fuel the economy of the rest of this country, including Charlie Angus' salary.
But also, simultaneously, it was in the past the training of the oil and gas sector that prevented any deaths from the fire last time around.
Everybody knows how to evacuate.
Everybody knows confined space.
Everybody has safety training in Fort McMurray.
Also, the oil and gas companies, they, you know, building berms, pushing dirt to try to save the community.
There are no hippie tree planters up there working to save Fort McMurray, and there never is.
So, the way I see it with Charlie Angus is it reminds me, like, these guys are very bitter.
They're very angry.
I would like to see Charlie's personal coverage.
You love that.
You know, he and Channelly, look, I'm very close to his variety right now.
Pretty much everyone that I talk to says he's a dick and that they don't like him and that he's given up on the working class and he becomes an elitist.
I mean, it's like, I think, look, here's the deal: we care about the environment.
We care about our planet and we are making it better.
And Fort McMurray will get through this.
This is going to be a little bump and we're going to boom.
We're already on the verge of moving.
And I think going forward, we need to like, one thing is when I spoke at Rebel Live, I really clicked with you.
It's like, you know, kind of when Donald Trump Jr. was up there.
I'm like, I agree with this.
I agree with this.
I don't agree with that.
And I didn't discount everything he said because I didn't agree with one point.
I'm going to really try to go back to that because this country needs dialogue in a good way.
And people like Charlie Angus are these hypocrites like Jagmee-Z, you know, Jagmeat with his Rolex watch, BMW car, it's like expensive bike.
And then all the grocery stores, like, I find it hilarious.
Like, I don't like going after, you know, Galen West, even though he's a dismillionaire.
I'll tell you why, because at least it's a Canadian company.
I don't really see them going after Walmart.
Walmart has massive grocery stores.
So you got some successful Chinese companies continuing with Walmart.
And then you find out that this little brother is on, is, you know, it's a lobbyist for a company for a grocery store.
It's like the hypocrisy that comes out of the West is insane.
You know, it's like, and I saw a CTV reporter ripping Jagmeat apart about like, okay, why didn't you stop Trudeau?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, we know why, because you want your pension so you can afford your cigars and families to you and you can go around and act like you're a socialist, but you're really not a socialist.
You're a stuck up on Fort Middle class, not quite a multi-millionaire, but you sure like the taste of the crumbs of the billionaires thrown down at you.
And the rest of this country has to work and figure out how we're going to get ahead.
I'll tell you this: Fort McMurray now, I feel good about Fort McMurray.
And I think internally, Fort McMurray has kind of made some progress to making it a better community.
97% of our taxes come from industry.
And I think that's been our whole focus.
Not anymore.
We're having more social programs where the indigenous are opening little businesses, not so much like they need the money because of industry, but it makes the community a better, more inviting place to live.
There's a push out of camp.
I'm not going to let this fire stop it.
I'm going to work my ass off on elite stuck up housemen politicians that, you know, play in shitty bands.
They're not going to, you know, I'm not going to be too worked up about it.
You know, and I just, unfortunately, I need to figure out what I'm doing right now because I have a business and, you know, and I don't have a sweet ass government pension that to fall back on.
And I got scared staff.
I mean, I'm not scared.
And if I was in McMurray right now, I would not, let me tell you something.
If I had gone back to 2016, I would never have evacuated.
I would have just stayed.
I would have found a different place to stay and I would have just input.
I guess my biggest regret, my biggest regret saying is I'm not there to help people because I think it was a mistake for me to evacuate last time.
I could have helped been far better just getting calming people down.
So I'm going to, you know, that's the thing.
But like, I have scared staff of the people worked up.
And what I'm related to is I've only missed a lot of post-cards.
People are scared.
Even though, and this is what I will say about speaking to the people of Fort McMurray, like you can trust the officials this time.
Like, if they say wait and thickwood, wait and thickwood.
Last time, no.
I mean, I was the guy that they told me go north.
I'm like, fuck this.
I went south and I pinned it and I went south, right?
Thank God.
Could you imagine two scared 150-pound pit bulls on a plane sitting next to some chihuahua and some laden slap would have been a disaster.
Boston didn't like little dogs, right?
So said, you know, so my point is, is like, I'm glad, but this time, no, I think part of the problem that it created is everyone left, period, even from Beacon Hill or sorry, from Timber Lee.
And like, I'm like, guys, calm, this is a different situation.
So please listen to Chief Jody Butts, listen to their moment.
They truly have your back, and they're not narcissistic people trying to get the spotlight.
They literally want Fort McMurray to do well and they want you to be safe.
So I have full faith in that.
Full faith in that, most of them.
Now, speaking of wanting Fort McMurray to do well, not only do you want Fort McMurray to do well, but you want the whole country to do well.
And you do that through Oil Sand Strong and Oil and Gas World magazine.
How do people support the work that you do and that you're currently doing while your community is under fire throwing?
So we got two new holding lines: Oil and Gas World, which we support the natural gas and more of the conventional oil.
Oil Sand Strong are the legendary brand.
And then, so you go to oilsandstrong.com, oil and gasworld.ca, sign up, buy at least $127 worth of merch, you know, and that would be amazing.
So, yes, please.
The more insurance, we are selling quite a bit, but this bus, this bus runs on propane, so I should get some kind of propane brag going.
But it's pretty awesome, you know.
And if you see the bus, you know, stop.
I am going to maybe do a GoFundMe or go give a send go or something.
So I've never really done that.
Yeah, like it's my marketing company pays for this.
And I want to really make a difference.
I want to be able to fight.
I'm not scared to fight.
Like, I'm not scared of Charlie Angus or Jane Fond or other celebrities.
In fact, I kind of, you know, like, I believe that it's a necessary thing to defend, you know, our way of life.
And I stand by it.
So please, like, support, check out the website.
If you see this bus, give it a hulk, you know, and then maybe I'll pull over your sticker and a t-shirt or whatever.
I'll sign the bus.
It's a pretty fun bus, actually.
Like, I didn't realize how cool it was.
So I've had a, I have some time in it now where I've been kind of not sure if I'm going to Fort McMurray or not.
So I camped out in front of my cousin's house, you know, and then so it's pretty cool.
I shook up the neighborhood.
So it's good.
So awesome, Robbie.
Yeah, I would love to see just social media flooded with pictures of the Eagle Sand Strong bus as it makes its way across the country.
That would be just amazing.
Yeah, it's going to be fun.
And it's a fun bus.
I mean, it does need to be.
I think I'm going to upgrade the seats a little bit.
I'm going to make a few changes, but it's fun.
And it's fired up.
It fired right up.
Like, I mean, it's been sitting for two years.
The first try, it fires up.
I mean, it's from 1977.
I mean, that's pretty impressive.
So all these people going out about these new, I don't think no Tesla would fire up in 40 years.
Robbie, I got to let you go.
You've got a lot of, I guess, plans to make.
Oh, yes, thank you.
Thanks so much for speaking up for families just like mine.
And just let your friends and family in Fort McMurray know that we're rooting for them.
We're praying for them.
Thank you.
Yeah, and so far it's good news.
Like nothing has been buried yet.
So it's just yellow skirts.
You know what I mean?
So I feel good.
I feel good.
And I feel good about the communities.
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Now, today's viewer feedback does come from the email bag.
And it is on last week's show.
I believe it was last week's show.
The last week has just been an absolute blur on my interview with Robert Krajek on his coverage of the ongoing anti-Semitic encampment happening at the University of Ottawa.
He's been there at least twice now.
And it was very odd the second time around because there were these hobo handlers, I'll call them, and they were going around making sure that nobody talked to Robert because they might actually tell the truth to Robert if they didn't know any better.
For example, who's paying for all those matching tents if you guys are a bunch of starving, overeducated barista career students?
Or, you know, who's paying for these matching signs?
When you say that Israel is occupying Gaza, what do you mean by that since Israel pulled out of Gaza years and years and years ago?
So, you know, we went.
Anyway, the moral of the story is they had these handlers going around making sure that Robert didn't actually get an opportunity to ask a question of the squatters so that the squatters might accidentally say what they really mean and what they really want.
So, today's gun show letter comes to us from Jerry, who writes, Hi, Sheila.
Thanks to you and Robert for your spot-on coverage of Hitler's hobos at the University of Ottawa.
Yes, I did begin calling them Hitler's hobos because their view on the state of Israel is indistinguishable from the Nazis.
Also, vagrants of the Third Reich applies as well, but Hitler's hobos, it's kind of catchy.
Those of us in the States have been dealing with this lunatic fringe as well, but I'm also seeing some pushback.
At about midnight on May 6th, when everyone must have been asleep or had gone home, because I highly doubt many of these people are actually camping overnight in these encampments.
Do they seem like the outdoorsy sort, the camping type?
Yeah, right.
I bet most of them are just sitting beside a tent all day and then going home at night.
Anyway, let's go on.
At about midnight on May 6th, when everyone must have been asleep, the protester encampment at Harvard was treated to a loud rendition of our national anthem.
I hope the music spreads across both our nations.
From Jerry.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
We know in Canada that the left's major thinkers think that the Canadian flag has been co-opted by crypto-Nazis and the Freedom Convoy.
So now that when they see a Canadian flag, they are triggered and they think there's just some sort of Russian-backed radical waiting to honk their horn at them.
I imagine it's the same in the United States.
Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.