Ezra Levant reports from London’s October 30th pro-Hamas rally near Parliament, where tens of thousands chanted "From the river to the sea" and demanded a "Jew-free Palestine," blending Islamic and woke activists. Rob (Socialist Workers’ Party) justified Hamas’s October 7th attack as morally right despite its backfire, while Mel Javed equated Hamas to Mandela, dismissing UK terrorism designations. Protesters like Ahmed accused Israel of targeting Gazan children—claimed as 50% of the population—and attacked Levant for questioning their narrative. Rebel News’ Marshall faced similar hostility, with extremists refusing to condemn Hamas even after its atrocities. The episode reveals London’s fractured free speech landscape and how mass immigration strains cultural cohesion, exposing a radical fringe exploiting Western sympathy for Palestinian suffering while rejecting compromise. [Automatically generated summary]
Tonight I'm in London for a giant pro-Hamas protest.
I'll tell you how it goes.
It's October 30th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Ezra Levant here for Rebel News.
I am in London, England.
I'm standing next to the ancient River Thames.
Over there, Big Ben, the Houses of Parliament.
This is an amazing city with an amazing river, centuries of history.
Look at this obelisk from Egypt.
Let me read to you the inscription.
Of course, there's a couple of sphinxes at the base.
This obelisk, prostrate for centuries on the sands of Alexandria, was presented to the British nation A.D. 1819, 204 years ago, by Muhammad Ali, Viceroy of Egypt, a worthy memorial of our distinguished countrymen, Nelson and Abercrombie.
So that obelisk was lying down in the sands of Egypt, and it was sent here.
And it's been standing here, a symbol of empire and how broadly, you know, the old saying, the sun never set on the British Empire from India to Canada to Arabia, and of course, even before that, to America.
What's interesting is I don't think that the UK is an imperial power anymore.
Rather, it has been colonized by millions of people who have come here, many for good reasons, for the freedom, for the economic opportunity, because it's just such a beautiful place.
But others have come here to politically colonize it, and I think that's what we saw today.
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I don't know how many people were in the rally for Hamas to smash Israel.
I was inside the group, so I saw probably thousands, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were tens of thousands.
A week or two ago, there was 100,000, according to police estimates.
I don't doubt it at all.
I want to show you how I approached this rally.
A lot of it was me being very careful because although there was a large police presence, the police were at the periphery.
And so if I chose to go into the crowd, there wasn't a cop in sight.
I had to be very gentle with my language, even though I was diametrically opposed to many of the messages in the protest, because if things turned rough, I would have been absolutely helpless, as would our cameraman.
So we started off by walking down to the protest.
We saw overhead a police helicopter.
That told us that they were on high alert for regular protest issues.
But remember, Hamas is a terrorist group.
That's not a matter of opinion.
Under UK law, it is a terrorist group.
And there are thousands of jihadis on the streets of the UK being tracked, allegedly, by the police.
So there is a non-zero risk that a peaceful protest could actually have violent elements.
Anyways, when we walked in, it was shoulder to shoulder, and it was a very tight space.
I saw a friendly gentleman who wanted to talk to us right away.
And he was with the Socialist Workers' Party.
So he's an indigenous Brit, as we say.
And it was interesting to listen to him.
And I mean, he was just giving boilerplate arguments about socialism.
And it dawned on me that a lot of the administrative and financial and organizational backbone of the pro-Hamas movement in the UK are the socialist Workers' Party, hard left-wing trade unions that have been a political force in this country for decades.
Here, here's some excerpts of my conversation with the first fellow I met, and I was very gentle because there wasn't a cop in sight and I was surrounded.
Take a look at how that conversation went.
Can you tell me a little bit about yourself and why you're here?
Yeah, my name is Rob.
I'm a member of the Socialist Party, I'm also a trade unionist.
I'm here today because as you can see, people are absolutely furious at really the genocide, the attack on Gaza, and people are marching in solidarity and also in protest against this Tory government that is backing up the Israeli state.
So people here are standing in solidarity with ordinary people in Gaza.
They can't believe the horrific attack that is murderous attack that is happening there right now.
Now I heard you say just a moment ago that I think you criticized the Labour Party as well.
That's what caught my ear.
What's your view on the Labour Party?
Because what is scanned?
It's outrageous, obviously, that the British government is really backing up the Israeli government.
And you think the Labour Party is too?
But there's no opposition from the Labour leadership.
A few years ago, when Jeremy Corbyn was leader, you know, Labour's policy, the policy that Starmer got elected on was to do away with the illegal occupation of Gaza, a campaign against that to recognize the Palestinian state.
Starma won't even call for a ceasefire.
Can I ask you some tough questions?
Are you sure?
Yes.
Okay, I want to ask you some tough questions.
What do you think about the attack on Israel that killed 1,400 people?
Well, we don't support that.
We don't support the attack by Hamas of only, we don't support that attack.
In reality, that attack was counterproductive.
The net NRU government has been, there's been a mass movement over the last year, which people probably don't realize around the world.
There's been a mass movement of strikes, of protest, against the net NRU's government, because it's a big business government.
Can I ask you some more questions?
But the attack by Hamas is counterproductive.
What it did was it shored up support behind NetAU temporarily, I believe.
So that's looking at things from a utilitarian point of view.
But how about from a moral point of view?
Are you morally against the Hamas attack on southern Israel?
No, we don't agree with the attack.
For moral reasons also?
We don't agree.
Look, from the perspective of how does ordinary people have a solution in the Middle East, which we think should be a socialist solution where national rights of Palestinians and only Israelis are protected and respected.
But the point is, is attacks like that cannot win that, cannot win that, because what they do is, is that unfortunately they shore up support behind what is a right-wing government in Israel.
I got two more questions, then I'll let you go.
Thanks very much for giving me your time, by the way.
I hear a chant from the river to the sea.
And in my mind, that means that from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean, that'll be a Palestinian country.
Is there room for an Israeli country also?
Or must Israel completely go, which is what I'm hearing.
I think the vast majority of people, when they say that, are saying that the Palestinians at the moment don't have any real rights.
Would you support a Jewish country there?
What we say as the Socialist Party is there needs to be a socialist solution in Israel-Palestine in the Middle East for the Palestinian masses and ordinary Israelis, not the net and I use of this world, not the Israeli government in the Israeli state.
And that means for us, the first issue is it needs a socialist solution, like we need in Britain, that can provide for ordinary people across the divide.
And if that means that you have to have two socialist states that can work, voluntary work out that relationship, then that would be a step in the right direction.
Last question for you.
There have been some anti-Semitic incidents and some anti-Semitic language.
Are you worried about anti-Semitism in the UK?
Look, the Socialist Party, I think like the vast majority of people are opposed to Islamophobia, are opposed to anti-Semitism, are opposed to all racism that exists.
And of course we are totally opposed to that, like we are opposed to Islamophobia and all sorts of racism and all attacks on equality.
Would you ever go to a vigil with Jews or Israelis to show moral support for them after the losses of three weeks ago?
Look, we are totally opposed to the attack by Hamas on the, you know, that took place in Israel on October the 7th.
Of course, some will say, but look, we all must recognize this.
This crisis didn't start on October the 7th.
We have had decades and decades of oppression, of illegal occupation by the Israeli state, backed up by the Western capitalist governments.
But I tell you what we did do is when you had protests in London and around the world in solidarity by Israelis in London with the protests against Netanyahu, we were on those protests.
So we are here today in solidarity with the Palestinians and those supporting the Palestinians.
But when you had a mass movement against the right-wing Netanyahu government and Israelis in this country were on, protested in solidarity, we were on those marches because we believe if there can be unity between the Palestinian masses and working people in Israel that can remove the capitalist government in Israel and have a socialist future, how that is worked out depends on working people across in those communities.
That is a solution for ordinary people.
As I walked around the protest grounds, I saw a lot of kiosks or tents for similar organizations, anti-British, anti-American, socialist workers.
I even saw a communist revolution poster.
So there is a British element to this.
Most of the crowd, I would say 75%, look to be Islamic or racialized, as they would say.
But I'd say about a quarter of folks here were either woke white young people who've probably been through some grievance studies degree or I think it's probably accurate to say just a lot of superannuated leftists who were for the disarmament movement in the 80s and for the environmental movement in the 90s and now they're on the free free Palestine movement in the 2020s.
The issue isn't the issue, the revolution is the issue and that's how I'd put that socialist workers guy.
I noticed a few other things on the streets.
For example, I noticed a postering campaign.
You might know that for the last few weeks around the world, supporters of Israel, and I think people who are just appalled by terrorism, have put up posters for the missing kidnapped children who were taken as hostages by Hamas in their terror raid on Israel on October 7th.
These have gone up in cities around the world, and there's been videotape of people tearing down those posters, which is a shocking thing when you think about it.
Well, this March, they've had their own version of those posters with children that they say Israel has killed.
So they are certainly meeting the propaganda gap.
There was a lot of propaganda, and we filmed as many signs and chants as we could.
Here, listen to some of the chants and see some of the signs.
They're talking about an intifada revolution to make the river to the sea Jew-free.
Take a look at some of the things we saw.
Palestine!
Palestine!
Well, it was good to talk to an old socialist worker, but I wanted to talk to people who had a little bit more skin in the game, people from the Muslim community.
And again, there was not a cop insight.
We took our microphone flag off just so if anyone knew rebel news, they might not be turned off by it.
And my questions, again, were very basic.
I mean, we came across this bizarre sight, which you see in a few cities in the world, ultra-Orthodox Jews wearing their fur hats who are against the state of Israel.
It's really weird.
You would think that they, of all people, would want the state of Israel, but they have an obscure sect that believes that there should be no state of Israel until the Messiah comes.
And so any attempt to rebuild Israel before that is a kind of blasphemy because Jews should wander in exile.
Jews should be driven out until God says you're done.
It would be like if Moses wanted to take a shortcut to the promised land instead of wandering for 40 years.
These extremist Jews want to take, don't think a 2,000-year wandering is enough.
So we saw some of those.
It's a very strange thing to see.
And I saw a Muslim man who I think was from Pakistan originally praising them.
And I said, hey, let's talk to this fella.
Here's a little bit about how that conversation went.
I'm going to truncate it a bit because he was quite voluble and I don't want to bore you with the whole thing.
But at the end, when I asked him if Hamas was a terrorist group, he said, oh, don't make me condemn it.
I said, I'm not asking you to condemn it.
Just would you acknowledge that they're terrorists?
Watch the conversation.
It took me about five minutes to get to the essential question.
Take a look.
Yeah, my name is Javid.
Kemal Javid?
Mel Javed, nice to meet you.
We're from Canada.
I wonder if you can tell us what's going on and why you're here.
Well, basically, we're here to support the Palestinian and the Israeli war that's currently going on.
And we realize both sides has been a loss of life, there's been a lot of people killed.
Other people, the official, know the actual numbers much better than we do.
But really, what everybody's here now for is that we need a ceasefire.
We need to stop this killing.
Hey, can I ask you two more questions?
I don't want to take up too much of your time.
Thanks for stopping talking to me.
What do you make of those guys?
These are what, I mean, I don't know them personally or whatever, these are orthodox Jews who themselves are going around with the banners and going around with the letters that they sent when Israel was created, that as far as our religion is concerned, we cannot even take over a land that's not occupied.
That's what the Orthodox Jews say.
And they go, never mind a land that was previously already occupied.
So what they're saying is like a lot of us are saying, that basically their religion has been hijacked by people who have a different agenda.
People who sort of hijacked Judism itself.
That's what they're saying.
I mean, I haven't spoken to them in detail, but like yourself, you can easily see this all over, you know?
Can I ask you one last question, then I'll let you go.
And thanks again for your time.
No problem.
There have been anti-Semitic incidents.
And a lot of Jews in the United Kingdom say they feel afraid of violence and the threats of violent revolution and intifada.
What would you say about that?
I mean, I've just shaken hands.
Are these not the Jews we're talking about?
Well, we're talking about different Jews.
I'm talking about, you know, there's a few hundred thousand Jews in the UK and their board of deputies and other Jewish leaders are reporting anti-Semitic incidents.
I've seen videos of some anti-Semitic incidents.
Some Jewish shops have been smashed.
Are you worried about anti-Semitism?
Well, I'm worried about anti-Semitism just like Islamophobia.
And I think some of this is being taken a little bit out of proportion because you've got to have some key points, you know, like these 40 beheaded babies or whatever.
You know, you've got to implant this.
Different Jews00:04:41
I don't know if you remember, but Iraq war, you could not use as a media, you could not use any other terminology.
You couldn't say chemical.
It had to be WMD, WMD, WMD.
Do you think Hamas is a terrorist group?
Hamas?
One group, one person's terrorist is another person's resistance.
So how about for you?
I don't know if I've conducted it.
You don't know if Hamas is a terrorist group?
What they did that, we would not condone that.
Okay, but would you condemn it, though?
Well, see, if I hadn't seen enough interviews, I would condemn it.
Would you condemn what Israel is doing right now?
I'm interviewing you as a British Muslim, so I'm not even from Britain.
I'm trying to understand.
You've said some interesting things.
I just want to know if you think that Hamas is a terrorist group.
I don't know from what they say.
Yeah, Britain says they're a terrorist group.
What do you say?
Well, I don't know any of the guys.
You don't know?
No.
No, I would easily say I've got no issues with that.
Yeah, the only reason...
So will you say it?
What?
Oh, no, we're not going to go through that.
No, I'm just wondering.
Will you condemn Hamas?
Will you condemn Hamas?
No, I'm not, I'm just, I'm actually not even asking you to condemn them.
I'm just wondering if you think they're a terrorist group.
Yeah, but do you think Nelson Mandela was a terrorist?
You know what I mean?
Before he became the world leader, and before we all bowed down to him, you're Yasa Arab has a terrorist.
Wasn't Ghanaians.
So you think Hamas is like Nelson Mandela?
No, I think from what I hear and see that they're more like sort of a resistant group.
Who's funding them?
Where they're from, I don't know.
But how about what they did?
How about what they did?
No, that was horrific.
I started off by saying, cannot kill, you know, because they claim me to be Muslim.
So why won't you just call them terrorists then?
It's no big deal.
If you acknowledge they did horrific things, why don't you say they're a terrorist group?
They did horrific thing, but they're horrific in numbers is 1,500.
This horrific, which I just asked you to say, and then you backed off and you said, I'm a journalist.
I'll give my opinions later.
Okay, you give us 1,500 terrorists, 7,000, and blackout, and all the killings.
Why is it so difficult to say that?
That's terrorism.
Well, listen.
We've got no qualms, but I'm just saying.
We're just trying to pick up bits and snippets of information and stuff that we get here.
Last question, last question, then I'll let you go.
Because you've got so many interesting things to say.
So some people here say from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, which implies from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
See, you know more than I do.
So do you think, you obviously believe that there should be a Palestinian state.
Do you think there should also be a Jewish state in the Holy Land?
Well, I think that these two groups of people have lived together before.
I think they can live together.
There is a bigger agenda, which, as I said, what these guys have been screaming and shouting about, that Judism is not Zionism.
Okay, so do you think, should there, you know, if there was a Palestinian state, should there also be a Jewish state in the Holy Land?
Well, I think, yes, yeah.
They can live together.
The Christians can live together.
How about the Jews?
Well, yeah, of course the Jews can live together.
Who allowed them or who accepted them or who opened their arms up to them, you know, 1948 or whenever it was?
It was whoever was there beforehand, which you can see on maps, which you can see on the coins everywhere, that there was a state called Palestine.
And the two of them lived happily for some time.
And then obviously this nationalism and other stuff got in the way.
And I don't know who's sincere or who's not, but the people who are supposed to be sincere and neutral, they're turning out to be not so sincere, not so neutral.
Because if they can't UN at least put their hand up and say, at least let's stop this.
You know, whatever power they have.
If they can't do that, what else are they going to do?
Thanks for giving me so much time.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Well, by this point in time, most of the march had gone down the street.
They went across, you know, there's a lot of bridges in London.
They went across the bridge and they came marching back and out.
There really were many thousands.
So by this time, the protests had really died down and some normal tourist life had come back to the streets.
But I saw someone who was eyeing us and he obviously wanted to talk.
So I went up to him and introduced myself.
He said his name was Ahmed and he had a cameraman too who asked if he could film it at the same time.
And I said, sure, I mean, why not?
So our conversation was, we weren't really on the same wavelength.
And I tried to ask him what his vision was if he got his way.
What would it be like?
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Would there even be an Israel at all?
How would, if he could wave the magic wand and have an outcome that he wanted, what would it look like?
I'll show you a little bit of how that conversation went.
I don't think it was particularly fruitful.
Take a look.
Man, I'm from, we're from Canada.
This is my friend Lincoln.
What's your name?
Ahmed.
Ahmed, good to meet you.
So it looks like you're collecting donations and you're doing some journalism.
Do some journalism indeed on YouTube, having a tremendous amount of success as well, with lots and lots of views, lots and lots of people showing considerable interest in the tyranny.
This face is tyrannical, what the Israelis are doing.
No matter what their opponents have done, their excess force has been so astronomical that we can see the people are not being fooled.
That's why they're coming out in their hundreds of thousands.
Last week's estimate, there was 350,000 people at this protest, but I would think there's many, many more.
I think we could be looking at the million.
The question is, will our governments continue in this path of unequivocal support for Israel when their bombardment is so relentless, even to the extent that they have now rejected the statements of the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, and they've outrightly rejected his statements.
This is like a catastrophe bordering on the extinction of a particular race.
Let me ask you about the solutions, because I've heard different chants here.
I've seen different posters, and I'm trying to understand what the desired outcome is.
So maybe you can tell me, what is the hope-for resolution from your point of view?
Well, UN Resolution 242.
No, no, sorry, I don't mean UN resolution, I mean like on the ground.
I understand.
Okay, on the ground, immediate cessation of hostilities from all parties concerned.
And by that proxy, an immediate and unequivocal guarantee that a solution is incumbent, meaning we're not going to have talks about talks like in the famous 1993 Oslo Accords, where Bill Clinton got hold of Shimon Perez, and the first thing they mentioned is let's have talks about talks in reference to the Palestinian issue.
We want something done now.
The immediate cessation of violence.
Israel withdraws back to its pre-1967 borders.
That will be the first prerequisite, as according to the UN Resolution 242 and 338, where they have to disperse from the West Bank and Gaza, which they have not done and flagrantly rejected international law, which we are supposed to be great proponents of.
So back to the 1967 borders means the West Bank and the Gaza.
But one of the chants I've heard is from the river to the sea.
So that's the Jordan River, I imagine, and the Mediterranean Sea, which would cover Tel Aviv, which would cover pre-1967 Israel.
Do you believe there should be a state of Israel in the Holy Land?
Well, Israel, this is a common fallacy of history that the land of Israel belongs to the Israelites.
So you don't think it does?
I'm giving you an elongated answer.
It's not a simple yes or no.
Because the general understanding amongst the Jews is that the Israelites were the natural inhabitants of the land of Palestine, but that's not the case.
The Canaanites and the Philistines were there before them as well.
So that's a misnomer.
When Moses parted them from the sea and they went forth, it was not that that was their particular land.
The land could have been chosen from there all the way to the river Euphrates.
But it was not that that was their particular land.
So at the moment, they have to, I mean, the 1967 borders would have to be the initial prerequisite, which they have to vacate the occupying lands.
And obviously there are millions of people over there, so they can't be displaced, even though they're Israelis.
So that's a given fact.
So at the same time, there has to be some sort of accommodation for them, unless there is mass repatriation back to different parts of the world which they came from, which is going to be unlikely.
So it's not like we're going to be looking at augmenting another human catastrophe in the shape of the Jewish people who are already there.
But however, that would be the prerequisite, the 1967 borders.
So prerequisite for what?
For talks.
So Israel must withdraw from the occupied territories.
That's a prerequisite.
And who would Israel's negotiating counterpart be?
Who would be on the other side of the table?
Well, anyone who is of a particular understanding that that would be a central call.
So any political party which evaluates that and understands that.
Because what is the other alternative?
Who would represent the people of Gaza?
That would be the case.
So Hamas?
Whoever that would be the case, whoever is elected democratically, supposedly, we have democratically elected governments.
From my understanding, Hamas was democratically elected.
I've never been to Palestine, but from my understanding, that was the case.
So let the Palestinian people decide.
Are you from Britain originally or did you come here from?
Yeah.
And do you mind me asking where you grew up?
And and.
I was born and brought up in London.
And what shaped your views on these subjects?
Well, the historicity.
I mean, the fact that Britain, unfortunately, not the Englishman, not the average Joe public, but our governments played terrible games.
The Balfour Declaration 1917, how they in France secretly tried to divide Palestine amongst themselves, having promised the Arabs the autonomous state that they would be getting.
They played games galore, which they are unfortunately doing now.
You have to accept this, see.
Do you accept that?
The British and the Americans are playing games.
Do you accept this?
Well, historically speaking, the Balfour Declaration, the British government at that time were playing games in trying to divide and rule, where they were promising the Arabs that they would have their country back if they supported them during the First World War.
And after that, they broke their treaties, and between France and Britain, they were going to divide Palestine for themselves.
But on the blind side, the relevant Israeli groups, they got together and decided otherwise with support from the US.
Well, I think my friend Ahmed was getting a little bit bored of my questions, and he wanted to ask me questions.
And he put a question to me that was so many clauses and caveats and preambles.
It was sort of an impossible question to answer.
I'll show you the question.
And they got a little stroppy because I just didn't want to be interviewed then.
I wanted to interview them.
They were the ones at the protest.
They were the ones with the message.
They wanted to flip the script.
Here's how that question went.
You've asked me relentless questions.
I'd like to ask you, I've asked several of your questions.
What I'd like to ask you, do you condemn the Israeli government's barbaric bombardment of the innocent people of Palestine in which the indigenous masses of this country are viewing and coming out and protesting?
I don't think I want to answer that question.
I want to be a reporter.
It's amazing.
Wherever you guys seem, the Western media are so frivolous to criticize Israel in any capacity.
It's like an endemic fear that they could lose their job or they could lose any other country.
I'm not worried about losing my job.
I'm just here to ask.
I'm here to ask you some questions.
If you don't want to answer any more, that's okay.
and I approach you, I've answered several of your questions.
So again, that's fair that I asked you a basic...
We agreed, we agreed that you will answer some questions.
Yes, we agreed upon that.
You have another faith, not that we are faithful.
So we're asking you reasonable questions.
We're asking you reasonable responsive questions.
It seems that you're not going to accept this 1917 Balfour Declaration.
You're not going to accept what the Western governments got up to.
They're trying to divide and rule.
The British have already accepted this was their policy during the subcontinent era as well.
So let's face it, all these events that are occurring in the world in Kashmir, in Palestine, wherever you guys, been the result of the foreign policies of the Western governments, in particular Britain and now today, America.
Do you accept this or not?
You're saying about 20 things and asking me if I accept it.
Singular question.
Very long question.
I'll shorten it.
Did you come to the Kashmir protest?
Did you come to the rally for Kashmir?
Yeah, so we seem to be digressing.
It's a fair question that I've asked.
You seem to be going on the tangent.
Well, it's all very simple.
Well, you just mentioned the crisis in Kashmir, and I wonder if you were here for the rally.
It's when the Muslim audience, or people in general, will observe our conversation, and I've answered your questions, and you've not answered a singular one.
Well, I'm not here as a protester.
You are deliberately not looking to answer the questions because you're fearful of potential repercussions.
If the question is, do you support killing children?
Obviously the answer is no.
Of course not.
And that's one of the reasons why the attack on southern Israel on October 7th was so barbaric.
It deliberately killed children.
But I also know that in every war since the beginning of time, there are civilian casualties, including, unfortunately, from time to time, children.
Now, the laws of war say that you must minimize damage to civilians.
You must minimize civilian casualties.
So that would be my answer to the question.
But that question doesn't really fit to the freighted preamble.
And I just didn't want him to subject my answer to his creative editing, because I could feel he and especially his cameraman were getting a bit agitated.
But if you want to know my view, I think that no child should be killed ever, either on purpose or by accident.
I think Hamas is the terrorist group that deliberately targets Israeli civilians and that deliberately hides behind Palestinian civilians.
I think Israel is the country that does its best to stop terror attacks against its civilians, including with the Iron Dome anti-rocket system, and that actually warns civilian areas in advance an attack is coming by dropping leaflets, by announcing in advance where an attack will be made.
In recent days, we saw that the major hospital in Gaza, the Al-Shifa hospital, underneath it is the command bunker for the terrorists.
They are literally put their command bunker under a hospital, knowing that Israel would be reluctant to strike it.
So that's my long answer.
Of course, I'm against children being killed.
And I'm especially against children being killed on purpose.
But I also know that in war, sometimes civilians are collateral damaged, and that is a tragedy.
And that's why there must be peace in Israel.
But simply invoking a ceasefire, which existed on October 7th, it would be like on the day after Pearl Harbor, December 7th, 1941, if Japan said, hey, ceasefire now, guys.
Or if the day after 9-11 on 9/12, if Osama bin Laden had said, hey, guys, ceasefire.
It's not really how it works.
But I didn't want to have his deceptive editing.
So that's my very long answer.
Not that you didn't know it.
But as you can see, things were starting to get a little bit agitated there.
And I just didn't want to stick around.
And he was getting a little bit angry, and his cameraman was getting a little bit insulting.
And then it was like a switch was flipped because a number of people were watching.
And by the way, I was very polite throughout.
Of course, I was polite.
I just want to point out the helicopter above there.
It looks like, oh, and I just heard something that sounded like a firecracker.
I'm thinking that that's where the protest we saw it march across that bridge.
In fact, you can still see some of it on the bridge between the Sphinx and the obelisk.
So I imagine that helicopter overhead is where the protest is now.
I just wanted to explain it and react to the noise.
But back to the story.
So I was talking with Ahmed, and it was degenerating, and his cameraman was insulting me.
And so I basically was done.
And people were watching from a distance, and it was like a switch was flipped.
And they suddenly started screaming at me, Get out!
Get out!
This is not for you.
Why do you like it was like they pressed play on a message track and they went into hysterical mode.
Let me show you how some it was.
And I want to let you know that none of the people you're about to see, I didn't talk to any of them other than Ahmed.
I didn't go up to any of them.
They came to me and started shrieking.
Take a quick look at this.
Stop killing the kids.
Do you want to talk a little bit?
If you have kids, everyone have kids.
I always want to kill.
If it was only about the kids, stop British kids getting bombed, it would never happen.
But because they're Palestinian, because they're Muslim, they don't care.
How about other places?
Free Palestine!
Free Palestine!
We don't care.
Just the kids.
Just the kids.
It's the kids.
The conversation wasn't with me missing.
May I ask people to get away from it?
Do you want to turn back?
Because you're going to get away from it.
Get out of here.
Get out.
Get out.
Why should I get out?
Because why are you here?
Why are you here?
Why are you bothering people?
Fighting for people that are getting killed.
50% of Gaza is children.
We're fighting for their rights.
So why are you bothering us while we're crying?
We're mourning.
We're mourning children.
And you're bothering us while we're mourning children.
Stop bothering us while we're mourning the kids of Gaza.
Let us do a process and mourn.
We've been crying.
We haven't slept.
And you're here.
Why are you here?
Get out of here.
Just the idea that Hamas started it.
Okay, and then look at your dog, the seven.
And there's this.
15 years.
Enough!
I've been to Gaza.
I'm a doctor.
I went to Gaza.
Yeah, but this is Rebel News today speaking on behalf of their channel.
Maybe we just asked one question.
What are your views on the Israeli bombardment of Gaza?
Can we have your one singular view, please?
Yeah, let's hear yours.
Let's hear it.
Well, I'm here to understand what the protest is about.
Obfuscation.
You can never criticize.
Just see yourself out.
See yourself out.
If you don't know what it's for, see yourself out.
We are crying and say the house.
We came here.
It is not fair.
It's not fair.
The words.
Ignore it.
Why?
Why?
Let me just say, I've been to Gaza.
I'm a medic.
I went before this all happened.
I saw a child get shot by the IDF.
The IDF stopped us with our ambulances to get to the child.
It was atrocious before this, and now it's even more worse.
I'm banned from Israel because they took my details and said, no, you're not coming back as a medic to help the Gazans.
So just go away, please.
Do you condemn the killing of children in Gaza?
Do you condemn the kids?
Look at the reporter.
Look at the reporter, Marshall Yes.
Do you condemn the killing of the children in Gaza?
I don't care.
Mr. Reporter.
I'm here to ask questions about the protest.
And you've already attacked me and insulted me.
I haven't insulted children.
You both have, actually.
Take care, fellas.
Go away.
Go away.
I'm glad it was not packed.
I'm glad that there were some police.
Actually, most of the police had gone by then.
But it showed me the false face.
I spoke to a number of people who were putting their best face forward.
They didn't know who Rebel News was, and they just wanted to look good to the cameras.
It took me a while to get that one guy, Khaled, if I'm getting his name right, to say, no, no, I'm not going to call Hamas terrorists.
Took me a few minutes to get to that.
I think what I learned from that is that the pro-Hamas community in London, some of them can control themselves and know that if they show exactly what they believe, they'll freak out a lot of people.
If they show what they mean by from the river to the sea, that that means the extermination of all Jews, if they show what they mean by intifada revolution, intifada, basically the Arabic word for pogrom, which meant the Russian-style anti-Semitic riot.
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If they show these things to the media, people will recoil because there are still enough Brits of goodwill and good faith who don't like what they see on the streets.
It was interesting to me that that mask fell in a heartbeat and the rage and the dramatic acting came out.
And I'm just glad that happened when things had dispersed rather than when it was cheeked by Jowell at the beginning of the protest.
Anyways, that's my report for today.
I'm glad I was here.
The UK has an enormous problem.
We see it starting to grow in Canada too, where there have been some protests of a thousand or even several thousand.
But it is a fact that 100,000 people marched here a week ago and surely tens of thousands march today.
The UK has an enormous problem.
Even if only a fraction of the Muslim population is extreme, and even if only a fraction of that does anything about it, the sheer numbers of mass immigration without any cultural vetting, without any denazification, so to speak, I think this problem, this country has a problem.
The problem for the UK is not in Gaza.
It's not in the Middle East.
The problem's in London.
I'm here in London where I was attending one of the large pro-Hamas rallies.
We've been covering the war between Hamas and Israel very carefully.