Ezra LeVant highlights Project Veritas’ viral undercover video where Pfizer employee Jordan Walker allegedly confessed to "directed evolution" of COVID-19, despite evasive claims and violent attempts to stop recording. The January 27th episode’s 20M+ Twitter views contrast with mainstream media silence, though Newsweek called it unverified. Former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb’s Pfizer ties and alleged Twitter censorship efforts fuel skepticism, while Pfizer’s $2.3B settlement underscores its history of controversy. LeVant defends Project Veritas’ adversarial stance against government overreach, dismissing accusations of "controlled opposition" amid whistleblower fears and media suppression. [Automatically generated summary]
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All right, here's today's podcast.
Tonight, Pfizer's in trouble again, and we've got the video to prove it.
It's January 27th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
Shame on you, you censorious bug.
Well, last week we had our biggest video in our history.
We've published, I don't know, 40,000 videos since our little company was born eight years ago.
But our three-minute walking scrum of Pfizer CEO Albert Boorla was the most popular by far 20 million views on Twitter alone.
Plus it was bootlegged, copied, translated, reposted in innumerable places just because it's so much fun to watch.
Here's three minutes of it.
Please Unlock Me00:14:35
Mr. Boorla, can I ask you, when did you know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission?
How long did you know that without saying it publicly?
Thank you very much.
I'm sorry.
I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission, but why did you keep it secret?
You said it was 100% effective, then 90%, then 80%, then 70%.
But we now know that the vaccines do not stop transmission.
Why did you keep that secret?
Have a nice day.
I won't have a nice day until I know the answer.
Why did you keep it a secret that your vaccine did not stop transmission?
Is it time to apologize to the world, sir?
To give refunds back to the countries that poured all their money into your vaccine that doesn't work, your ineffective vaccine?
Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple of years?
Do you have any apologies to the public, sir?
Are you proud of it?
You've made millions on the backs of people's entire livelihoods.
How does that feel to walk the streets as a millionaire on the backs of the regular person at home in Australia, in England, in Canada?
What do you think about on your yacht, sir?
What do you think about on your private jet?
Are you worried about product liability?
Are you worried about myocarditis?
What about the sudden deaths?
What do you have to say about young men dropping dead of heart attacks every day?
Why won't you answer these basic questions?
No apologies, sir.
Do you think you should be charged criminally for some of the criminal behavior you've obviously been a part of?
How much money have you personally made off the vaccine?
How many boosters do you think it'll take for you to be happy enough with your earnings?
Nothing?
Who did you meet with here in secret?
Will you disclose who you met with?
Who did you pay commissions to?
In the past, Pfizer has paid $2.3 billion in fines for deceptive marketing.
Have you engaged in that same conduct again?
Are you under investigation like you were before for your deceptive marketing, sir?
If any other product in the world doesn't work as promised, you get a refund.
Should you not refund to countries that laid out billions for your ineffective vaccine?
Are you used to only sympathetic media, so you don't know how to answer any questions?
You know, it was an opportunistic thing.
We saw him on the street.
We asked him questions.
When it became clear he wouldn't answer, we asked more anyways.
People liked to see the attempt at accountability, even if there was no actual accountability.
But it wasn't well planned.
It wasn't crafted.
In fact, we had about 10 seconds to act when we saw him on the street.
Compare that to a stunning video that was released this week by Project Veritas.
Now, you know who they are.
That's run by James O'Keefe, who has really perfected the undercover investigative journalism of liberal, progressive, and corporate establishments.
He typically uses undercover operatives who gain access to the Democratic Party or teachers' unions or left-wing activist groups or big tech companies or other media companies.
Well, this time he did it to Pfizer, arranging for someone to go on a date with a Pfizer employee, but in a manner that made the Pfizer employee quite certain that it was a random encounter.
And then Project Veritas' undercover reporter would pose as someone on a date and record it.
Oh, that takes nerves of steel.
Well, the resulting videos have had millions of views on Twitter, which is the same place that we've had millions of views.
But let me say this.
I started off by saying bad week for Pfizer, but is that actually true?
Because other than on Twitter, have you seen our encounter with Albert Broule Pfizer?
I haven't.
I didn't see it on CBC or CTV or Global News.
I don't think it was on any mainstream network in the United States.
Fox News carried it on Tucker Carlson's show, and that is the largest cable news show in America, but it was not on ABC, NBC, CBS, the really big networks.
So in a way, did Pfizer even care?
I salute Elon Musk for buying Twitter and making it freer, and it certainly was all the buzz on Twitter.
So other journalists certainly did see it, but they refused to pass on the news to their own viewers.
And that is what looks to be happening with this new video from Project Veritas.
Now, earlier today, I played the video through and commented sort of in real time on it.
I'm going to play that again for you because I don't think I can come up with any better comments than what I had earlier today.
So I'm going to take you through, I think it's a nine-minute video of Project Veritas and someone who purports to work in a senior capacity for Pfizer.
And then I'm going to interview the media relations manager for Project Veritas.
So enjoy the show.
It's not our journalism we're talking about today.
It's Project Veritas.
And God bless him.
Here, take a look.
Is he seat taken?
You work for Pfizer.
My question for you is: why does Pfizer want to hide from the public the fact that they're mutating the COVID viruses?
Is this real life?
I'm literally a liar.
I was trying to impress a person on a date.
What are you lying?
This is absurd.
Don't touch me.
Well, this is not why the way don't tell anybody.
He was just working at a company to literally call the public.
You fed off.
You really did.
Please read the class.
Can you please unlock your door?
No, no, don't let them leave.
Please unlock the door.
Give me why you are so stuck.
Please unlock the door.
Unlock the door.
We're trying to get the door.
Unlock the door.
Unlock the door.
Holy moly.
Pfizer not wanting to public to know that you guys are doing directed evolution.
Bro, what would come out here and have like an interview?
I know.
He's like flashbacks to that like singing organization of like those conservative people who like randomly go into organizations and then like holy foreshadowing organizations.
He knew he didn't know what was about to happen.
He was starting to think of it.
That stingle.
Why are we back on this channel?
You better not be recording.
And then here comes James.
Hey there.
Is he seat taken?
He's so calm, so low.
You work for Pfizer.
My question to you is: why does Pfizer want to hide from the public the fact that they're mutating the COVID-19?
He's realizing what he's realizing that his premonitions were right.
What is happening?
Why does Pfizer want to hide from the public that they're mutating the COVID virus?
Oh my God.
You're on video.
You're on video.
I'm here.
I need to call the police right now.
The police ain't going to help you, but I don't know what's going on either.
This is ridiculous.
So you're on video.
I'm a journalist.
Bro, first of all, he's literally a liar.
He's on.
He's exploring how the virus keeps mutating.
Yes, one of the things we're exploring is people off camera.
Why don't we mutate the virus?
I don't know what's happening.
We really need the cops here.
You need more than cops, but please do call the police.
I'm sorry, this is insane.
What's going on here?
You can't do this.
Restaurant owner says you have to leave.
But I think that Pfizer guy locked the door.
Or did the restaurant lock the door?
That's not clear to me.
He's on tape here talking about mutating the COVID virus.
Can I talk to you outside about it?
Absolutely not.
And you're not even going to have a likeness on this.
What is your date?
I don't think that's how the law works if you're in a place with no reasonable expectations.
You have to unlock me as if the door is a person of public.
You don't even know my position at all.
I was trying to impress a person on a date.
I'm not even a scientist, but I back on you.
You know, I came from a consulting firm that does business.
This is absurd.
Don't touch me.
This is absurd.
So he's making his argument.
He's saying, I'm not even a scientist.
I came from a consulting firm.
Why would you call me?
And I just lied on a date.
That might actually be true.
He's full of fear and panic, but that might be true.
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time someone lied on a date to impress the microphone.
But it's a pretty odd thing to lie about repeatedly and with such specificity, don't you think?
Guys, can you just expect my father to play somebody?
Can I get a check for the bill?
No, do not give him a check.
No, don't let them leave.
Because I want the cost to know what they're doing.
If they paid their bill, what is the intent of the business?
I don't think you can falsely imprison anyone even if they don't pay the bill.
I'm not sure of that law in America.
But I think they trapped the Project Veritas types in there.
Why would you bring race into this?
Please read the costs.
We have you on tape talking about mutating the COVID virus.
No one mutates a COVID virus.
May I show you the video?
Do we have to leave?
Okay.
No, you cannot just leave.
Do you want me to get the police to come here and see him?
Can I ask you to do that?
I think he's having a psychological breakdown.
Because he knows what he said.
He knows what he said.
He doesn't memorize it.
He didn't seek to memorialize it.
He just said you lie to impressive date.
I don't know how saying you're mutating the virus impresses a date, but do you currently work for Pfizer?
Yes or no?
Do you currently work for Pfizer?
Yes or no?
What are you talking about here?
Please, I want the cops to be here.
So you don't work for Pfizer.
You can't do that anymore.
This is absurd.
He doesn't want me to leave, ma'am.
I want the cops now.
He wants the cops here.
But he doesn't want me to leave.
So I'm in a little bit of a predicament because she's asking me to leave, but he doesn't want me to leave.
So what should we do?
Look how calm James O'Keefe is.
I was on a video.
You're on a video here.
People literally look out of nowhere.
Pfizer is mutating the virus.
This is absurd.
Look at this.
No, I literally said that.
What are you talking about?
Well, this is not why the way he is.
It sounds almost like he's crying.
He's not crying, but he's emotionally revved up.
Why are you doing this to someone?
This is absurd.
I don't even know who you people are.
Oh, you know who they are.
How am I going to trust someone after this?
That is a good question.
I don't know if our situation is.
If you suspect that this mutating COVID virus, is this the way the virus started in Wuhan?
do you think it's okay for Pfizer to do that?
He's filming the restaurant owner right now.
He's filming her.
I don't know why he's filming her.
Would you like me to leave?
Because he won't.
He's asking me not to leave.
He's consenting to my presence.
Ma'am, are we allowed to just stay and ask a few questions?
It's pretty remarkable that they call the police on us every time we show up and ask questions.
Every time.
You say Pfizer is planning on doing research in the future, then claim that there's an ongoing research about that and that there better not be any more outbreaks.
Which is it?
Are these experiments happening or not?
Calling the police.
He's standing behind the bar.
I can't think that.
No, do not leave.
Do not leave.
Do not leave.
What's this?
They locked us in.
What a ruckus.
If I was in that restaurant, I would want to get away from this hull of a little bit.
Looks like a good restaurant.
Ma'am.
Ma'am, we're trying to leave.
Would you lock us in here?
Call our attorney.
Can you please unlock your door, Madame Powell?
No, I don't know what's going on.
I don't even leave it when I hold the wall.
What are you trying to tell me?
Can you please unlock it?
I don't know how many people were in this restaurant who were not with Project Veritas.
It looks like they had about four or five people.
Could you please let us leave, ma'am?
Considering how many people you can see, plus the person who's holding the camera, I think there were five people in that restaurant on Project Veritas.
We'd like to leave.
Please unlock the door.
Like, see, now they're worried, but does it go in there?
No.
No.
You're afraid for me.
This is insane.
Please, please, please unlock the door.
Give him light.
Trying to grab the iPad as if that's the only place where this video would reside.
Maybe if he smashes the iPad, you can't just record people like that.
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How he's assaulting me when he hit me.
I'm locked the door.
This is remarkable here.
Thank you.
Thank you.
He's got the iPad.
They're fighting over the iPad.
They're pushing and shoveling.
This is degenerate.
It is not!
Stop!
Let go of me!
Now you're hurting me!
What is going on here?
You cannot just record people like that.
Come on.
It's not okay.
It's not okay.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Come on.
Yeah, James is right just to go.
I think.
New York City, this is remarkable.
What you just witnessed here in the restaurant.
Come on, guys.
Where's the car?
Where's the vehicle?
Come on.
This is insane.
You just witnessed one of the most remarkable interactions ever.
Do we have the iPad?
So we're getting into the vehicle now.
Where's our car?
Stand right there, yo.
He's charging the guy, charging, charging, charging.
I can't make a noise like this one if you want to leave them right here.
Okay.
Walker would be arrested if O'Keeffe was still present.
Oh, then we could just walk away then.
Not worry about it.
If that's what you guys want to do, then just unbelievable.
You know, it's been a while since I've been on a date.
I can't even remember.
But I know that you're trying to put your best foot forward and you don't want to lie, but you want to make yourself maybe appear a little bit smarter, a little bit braver, a little bit more interesting than you really are.
Is that not human nature?
And that guy's obviously very dramatic as his personality, you can sort of tell.
So perhaps his intentions to impress a date plus his dramatic personality, maybe he did exaggerate, but it's a very weird thing to lie about.
You're lying about evolving viruses to mutate them to then make vaccines for your mutations.
That is a very strange and obscure thing to lie about.
Very weird.
Like if it wasn't true, why would you say that?
That would be like working at a bank and making up a lie that you robbed people or the bank robbed.
Like it's such like it's not a harmless lie.
It's a lie that implies a tremendous evil doing.
Like it's not a, like, I don't even think that's a lie that makes this guy Jordan look good.
Like if you're lying, aren't you lying to look more rich or powerful or handsome or successful?
I'm just trying to think what it might be like on a first date in a pizza restaurant in New York City.
I think that's like a third date, if I'm not mistaken.
Very, very unusual.
The fact that he very quickly moved to I'm a liar is bizarre to watch.
It's so self-abnegating, so self like to call yourself a liar in public, to holler it, to scream it, to cry it a half dozen times is so self-abasing.
But maybe it's either what you have to do because you said something so atrocious.
But I actually, and I'm not on this guy's side, but maybe it's true.
I don't know.
I've never seen anything so crazy in my life.
And James O'Keefe was certainly trying to find out if it was true.
He had this guy on tape, but he put these questions to him now, not in the guise of an undercover journalist, the date of this guy, but as a journalist with an outwardly observable, conspicuous microphone and a camera crew.
Holy cow.
You know, this is not the first time that Project Veritas has entrapped or stinged someone using a dating service.
That's got to be quite something to target someone, to find someone, to make it seem organic and natural.
I mean, I don't know how the dating apps work.
I haven't been in the dating market for a decade and more than almost two decades.
How do you pinpoint someone?
How do you pinpoint someone?
That is a fancy investigative journalistic technique.
How would you go about, how would you know where someone was?
How would you know if they're single?
How would you know if they're on the app?
How could you contact them?
And like just to arrange the meeting and then to stay so calm when you're undercover.
And you heard this guy, Jordan, the Pfizer consultant, saying, oh, this reminds me of an interview.
This feels, you make me think of those guys, those conservatives who do sting operations.
Yeah, you know, that little warning light in the back of your mind, that was right.
And I've seen that in some of these before.
So the plausibility with which he went on this date must have been so strong.
He must have said there's no chance this was set up.
This was a random occurrence or maybe even one that he set up.
I don't know how they do it, but you got to tip your hat to Project Barrett ass.
This has been going super viral since yesterday.
And last I checked, as far as I could see, Pfizer has not made any statement.
It'll be interesting to me to see what they say about this guy's identity and his real position, because you could see on the screen there that James O'Keefe was trying to buttress the claim that this guy was with Pfizer.
He was showing all these screenshots of this guy.
I don't know if that was on LinkedIn or some internal message board in Pfizer.
And he was asking, because this guy is basically saying, I'm an outside contractor, not even a scientist, and I lied.
That's his excuse.
It'll be interesting to see if Pfizer throws this guy under the bus, tries to ignore it.
Not a good week for Pfizer.
Last week, it was me and my friend Avi Yamini tag teaming Albert Burla, their CEO down the street in Davos, Switzerland.
We got no answers.
This week, it's these too many answers, these over-the-top confessions.
It would have been interesting to have these weeks reversed if Project Veritas had come out with this a week ago.
And if I was in Davos today and if I encountered Robert Bourla, the CEO today, maybe I would have thrown in a question about this guy because I sure am curious.
Hey there.
Is he seat taken?
What?
Hi.
You work for Pfizer.
My question for you is, why does Pfizer want to hide from the public the fact that they're mutating the COVID viruses?
Is this real life?
What is happening here?
Why?
What is going on here?
This is absurd.
Why does Pfizer want to hide from the public that they're mutating the COVID virus?
Oh, my God.
You're on video.
You're on video.
Pfizer ultimately is thinking about mutating.
What is going on here?
I need to call the police right now.
And I don't know who's virus, or I don't know what's going on.
I just don't even know how they could target someone through a dating app, obviously.
Just the patience to do that and then to get more and more information and the self-control not to pull the trigger on the story and the undercover acting of the reporter.
It really is the most outstanding journalism organization in North America, and they should own every Pulitzer Prize.
But because they are called conservative or skeptics rather than part of the establishment narrative, they will never get the recognition they deserve.
Outstanding group, Project Veritas.
James O'Keefe obviously is working very hard on this story on an ongoing basis, but we're lucky to have a few moments with Mario Balaban, the media relations manager from Project Veritas, who joins us live via Skype.
Now, Mario, first of all, congratulations.
Not only is that outstanding journalism, it was just riveting from a shock point of view, from an entertainment point of view.
That was incredible.
As James O'Keefe says, he's never had a reaction like that before.
What do you make of it?
Well, Ezra, first of all, thank you for having me on.
You know, again, what you did in Davos was extraordinary as well to see, you know, really what that's the essence of journalism, right?
Is asking questions.
You asked questions to Albert Borla.
He didn't give you a response.
We've tried to get a response from Pfizer as a result of our investigation.
We haven't heard from them.
I don't know why they can't respond to journalists about what we've uncovered here.
But, you know, my overall take is, you know, as you've seen, is just incredible.
This person is a Pfizer director, speaking very candidly and with clear knowledge of what he's saying, right?
He very much knows what he's talking about in detail, what is going on in terms of mutating the COVID virus through what he calls directed evolution.
Tries to say it's not gain of function, although several doctors, including Dr. Malone, say they believe it is.
And then, you know, we've, you know, he also talks about the revolving door idea where, you know, big pharma and government are working hand in hand.
You know, big executives come from pharma, go to government, come out of government, go to pharma.
So there's just this symbiotic relationship that you have between all these powers, right?
And he talks about all of that.
And then, as you saw yesterday as well, then we went to ask questions similarly in the way that you did at the WEF.
And this individual reacted in some way we've never seen before in Project Veritas history.
He assaulted our staff who were there to, you know, support James' interview questions and help the staff obtain answers.
And, you know, it's the videos by themselves, you know, the first one we launched with the investigation has about 20 million views on Twitter alone right now.
And the video of this interview where the person reacted in the way he did has almost 10 million views.
It's extraordinary.
Yeah, just regioning.
You know, I watched it and what he said was so stunning and it was almost too perfect.
And so part of me thought, can this be real?
Maybe this was a setup or a stitch-up because what he said was so villainous.
It is every fear, every skepticism manifested.
I thought, is this guy really who he is?
And I know that James O'Keefe put those questions to him in the final encounter and showed the documentary evidence.
But when he was finally confronted, he said, I'm just a consultant.
I'm just a contractor.
I'm not even a scientist.
It was like he was trying to say, I'm not an important person.
I couldn't have meant it.
And then the most insane thing was when he called himself a liar.
He denounced himself half a dozen times as a liar.
I've never seen such a meltdown, but is he real?
Like, is that really him?
Yeah, no, that's a great question.
And, you know, a lot of people have, you know, asked that because, as you said, the material is so shocking and so disturbing to a lot of people that a lot of people don't want to believe that this is actually true or happening.
What I can say is that, first of all, Project Veritas stands behind our journal, behind our journey.
Oh, and I'm not doubting it.
I'm just thinking that's the only way I could possibly, like, what he said was so shocking and evil, I almost want to think it's a setup because I don't want it to be true.
No, believe me, I know that you're obviously a great journalist and a friend of ours.
I absolutely know you're not questioning that.
I'm saying to the general people that have brought questions to this, you know, Project Veritas, as you know, Ezra, we stand by our journalism and we never get any of these materials wrong.
We never have.
So we have a reputation for being very accurate and we do our due diligence to verify everything before we publish it.
We have put out all the information to corroborate where he works.
Other third parties have done the same.
Dr. Malone has done the same.
We've seen that.
Here's a very telling aspect, in my opinion.
Pfizer has had 48 hours to respond.
If this person wasn't real, wouldn't you think that Pfizer would have responded to at least some media outlet?
They don't respond to anyone, Fox News, anyone, saying, you know, this person doesn't work for us.
This person's low level.
This person doesn't have any authority on the vaccines or COVID.
Not anything, not one sentence to try to delegitimize this reporting.
Wouldn't you imagine that it would be easy for them if it were simple enough to do, to come out and just write three sentences to try to take out the impact of this story?
So we haven't seen any of that in 48 hours.
I'm sure they've seen the video, right?
There's no way they haven't.
So, you know, what Tim Poole said also, I will say, was very interesting.
When the man was reacting, saying, oh, I'm a liar, Tim Poole's like, so why should I believe that you're a liar now if you're a liar?
Why should I believe what you're saying right now if you're saying that you're a liar?
Why should I believe that?
So it's actually, what I can, you know, I'm no psychologist, but I would imagine the person that, you know, said the things that he said and knows he got caught in that situation, their gut reaction is to try to downplay everything about themselves as they could to try to, you know, somehow convince us not to publish the story and throw doubt in the fray.
But I'm not sure that that strategy is being effective for him or for Pfizer.
Yeah.
I mean, it's been a long time since I've been on the dating scene, but I acknowledge that there is obviously a temptation to self-aggrandize, make you look handsomer, richer, more powerful than you are on a date.
I get it.
And I believe that.
But what he said doesn't, you know, directed evolution of the vaccine, sorry, of the virus to induce mutations that we then provide the vaccine for.
That's not, hey, I'm smarter than I am, handsomer than I am, richer than I am.
That is, how is that even a dating lie?
Why would you, how do you come up with that phrase?
It's so specific.
It's so technical.
And frankly, I think it looks evil.
I don't think that's a show-off move.
It just, it's so crazy.
I think that guy was having a kind of a breakdown because he knew he was caught dead to rights.
And he sort of had a premonition of it earlier when he said, oh, this is like that conservative sting operation.
I don't, has there been any word about this guy in the last 24 hours?
Has he said anything?
Has he gone to ground?
What do we know about him in the last day?
Yeah, no, we haven't heard from him.
And, you know, Kim.com, who's a huge personality now, he tweeted something very interesting last night.
He said, you know, this person, Jordan Walker, if you're seeing this, reach out to us, become a whistleblower, because I'm sure you're not, you know, really, you know, obviously you're not happy that you're exposed through Project Veritas and James O'Keefe.
But, you know, there's people that are suggesting that potentially this individual might be concerned about how Pfizer will take his revelations, right?
So if he has any concerns about his well-being or whatever that may be, Kim.com invited him to come public.
He'd support him in any way he could to do so.
So, and Project Veritas, by the way, we are an organization that not only does undercover videos, as you know, but we also welcome whistleblowers.
So he can become, he can, you know, come to us and, you know, open up really about what's going on.
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Or other whistleblowers can come to us at VeritasTips at ProtonMail.com.
We're very receptive to people like that, and we will protect you.
You know, that's a fascinating way of looking at it.
And I'm glad you told me that.
I hadn't seen that comment by Kim.com.
And by the way, for those folks who don't know, Kim.com legally changed his name to that.
He was an early tech innovator.
He's a bit of a tycoon and he's a bit of a dissident, lives in New Zealand and is for privacy and for challenging big government, big tech.
So that's a very interesting comment by an influential character.
I never thought of it that way.
I always thought of this guy as a rascal who was lying.
But maybe here's another way of thinking about it.
Imagine if he was part of a crime family, like the Sopranos or something, just for example, and he was on a date and to seem tough and brave, he was telling family secrets, mob secrets that were then revealed.
Would he be afraid of the police or would he be more afraid of Tony Soprano?
And would he say to the journalist, no, no, no, I was lying.
Tony never did that.
We never did that.
I just made it up.
So you're right.
He may well be more afraid of the organization within which he worked and the secrets that he gave out.
He may be far more afraid of them than of James O'Keefe, who simply embarrassed him.
But you know what?
He looks so stressed out.
He looked like he was in genuine distress.
He panicked.
He shouted.
He almost cried.
He said, you can't do this.
This is absurd.
He called the police.
He lunged.
I think we saw a human being crumbling in front of our eyes mentally because I think that's pure fear.
Yeah, no, you know, these are all things that I think are worth considering.
I think also, you know, having someone who, you know, I believe some people have invited psychologists to analyze his behavior on the moment, right?
Like, you know, the first reaction was, what's going on?
You know, is this real life?
Then he goes on to, I never said this.
You know, I'm a liar.
Men lie on dates.
You know, but as you pointed out, you know, what kind of lies are people, men, you know, or whoever might say, you know, I have money, I have influence, I'm, you know, I'm powerful, I'm rich.
But bragging about specific details of a project that most people, as this man said himself, wouldn't like, the public wouldn't like, he said it himself that, you know, don't tell anyone, you know, we don't tell this to the public.
We don't think they'd like this.
So how is that a bragging mechanism, you know, if it's something that people don't like?
So it's very interesting.
You know, from there on, you know, he pretends he's a victim by saying he has to call the police.
Then he says, don't let these people leave, which is potentially, I don't know what to describe that as, but it doesn't seem legal to me.
And then he goes on to moves on there to physically assault the individual, believing that by assaulting an iPad with the video, somehow the video would disappear.
I don't know what the I mean, you could see he was grasping at any straws.
If I lock you in here, maybe the story won't get out.
If I smash the iPad, maybe that'll somehow destroy the video.
Like that was, you know what?
Some people joke these days when they go up against a powerful force.
They say, by the way, I'm in good health and I have no suicidal thoughts.
It's a dark joke about if they, God forbid, were found dead later and someone were to ascribe it to suicide.
You know, it's a dark joke.
But in this case, he looks so genuinely distraught.
You know, God forbid, I hope he doesn't take his own life.
And I don't mean to put that idea out there other than I have rarely in my life seen a man so distraught and so distressed and humiliated and scared at the same time.
And I actually hope he is okay.
And wouldn't it be wonderful if he did become a whistleblower?
He also, I mean, let me just say one more thing.
And I know you've got to go because you've had, you know, this is the number one story in the world right now.
But let me just mention one other thing.
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You talk about the revolving door between government and big pharma.
And we know this is true.
For example, the former FDA commissioner, Scott Gottlieb, if I'm getting my stats right, he became a director of Pfizer, and he does the punditry for Pfizer on TV.
And he was also the one, if I'm not mistaken, who tried to get Twitter to censor critics of Pfizer.
Talk about a revolving door.
Again, we can corroborate that.
That's not a dating lie.
It's an accurate observation.
So we know some of the things he said were completely true.
Right.
And demeanor was very interesting to me.
He was giggling.
It's like, yeah, you know, this is great for us and the industry, but it's just really bad for the American people.
And he did giggle about it, right?
He wasn't, you know, he didn't seem like he was upset about it or was opposed to it.
He just found it, well, yeah, that's an interesting part of my job.
Not that he didn't say these things, but he's probably thinking, hey, if I end up going to the FDA and probably get that revolving door treatment myself one day, but he does explain in detail what he does say is exactly, we asked, how is this bad for the American people?
And he said, well, the people that are supposed to review drugs and take a serious look at what we're trying to put in the market, they have an interest of not going too hard on us so that they have a job after they're done with their government regulation job.
So it's quite telling that he was, as you said, people know this, but to hear the proof and hear the person inside that world confirm what we suspect is powerful in itself.
You know, I want to come back to my Sopranos analogy one last time.
You know, when I was in Davos last week and I bumped into Tony Soprano, aka Albert Bourlau, the CEO of Pfizer, I asked him about the fact that Pfizer, and you probably know this, Mario, I'm sure you do.
A few years back, they paid the largest fine at that point in American history, $2.3 billion for deceptive marketing of another drug.
$2.3 billion settlement.
They basically made a deal to avoid the full prosecution.
So this company, we know, has engaged in a company-wide criminal enterprise before, and the stakes are so much higher and they're so much bigger.
Why wouldn't they engage in deceptive deception now when the stakes are so much higher?
And maybe I was talking to the Tony Soprano of the organization, so like a good mafia don, he didn't say a word.
He denied everything.
He was just quiet.
But this underling, you know, sang like a canary, as they might say in the Sopranos.
He didn't mean to rat them out or snitch, but he just was caught really as an FBI agent.
This is a move the FBI might have done on Tony's.
And I know I'm going really deep down my Tony Soprano analogy here, but I think when you're dealing with Pfizer and the stakes and their ethics, I think it's a useful comparison.
I don't know if Albert Bourla really is a criminal boss, but my God, that organization deserves all the scrutiny you can get.
Last question, Mario.
We're an independent news organization.
I see other independent news organizations covering this like crazy.
Has any mainstream media, is any regime media, has the New York Times, has the Washington Post, has the LA Times, have any of them covered this story based on your blockbuster reporting?
None of those that you mentioned have.
Tucker Carlson, of course, is not in that same category, but he did an extensively.
He did a 20-minute segment opening his show yesterday, which was quite incredible to see.
So on Fox News, on Tucker's show specifically, it happened.
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Something to note that's very interesting.
Newsweek ran a fact check on the story.
Really?
Yeah.
And guess what?
They couldn't rate it false.
They rated it unverified.
So they couldn't even get to their objective of trying to say it was fake news.
And you should read it.
I can't even describe the amount of nonsense that's in there.
But all I have to say to that reporter is, if it's unverified, isn't your job as a reporter to go and verify it?
Like, isn't that your job?
That's what I want to know.
And the other interesting thing that I'll point out is Daily Mail wrote an article in the morning, early morning.
Wow, I saw that.
And then it was removed.
So I don't know what happened with that Daily Mail article.
I found that too.
Daily Mail is normally outstanding.
They're contrarian.
They love taking a hard line because they're not so close to the U.S. president or the Canadian Prime Minister.
I find that they can have more objectivity.
When they took that story down, I was very curious about that.
Well, listen, Mario, being very generous with your time.
Outstanding work.
We can find all sorts of info at projectveritas.com.
Do I have that website right?
That is correct.
Project Veritas.com is our website, and you can donate to us there as well as become a whistleblower by going to that website as well.
Well, let me close by saying, you know, I appreciate your courteous comments about our work in Davos last week.
That was three minutes of opportunistic question asking.
I'm glad we did, and I'm proud of it.
But to compare our three minutes of scrumming the CEO with your deeply, meticulously planned, patient team undercover work, you know, I'm grateful for your praise.
But what you guys did, and it was obviously a team effort, was so outstanding.
And I think it will change the course of the world just a little bit.
I think it'll change the course of the world just a little bit.
So congratulations and pass on our best regards to your whole team, including the boss.
Thank you so much, Ezra.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
There you go, Mary O'Balaban, Media Relations Manager for Project Veritas.
Just outstanding.
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Your letters to me.
Sean DeLap says, The way I see it, it's a battle of common sense versus lunacy.
So no, it's not really about the left versus right anymore.
Well, I'm not sure if I perfectly distilled my thinking yesterday.
I guess I was noting how the left doesn't care for a lot of leftist causes anymore, but people like me do.
I care about privacy.
I care about, you know, freedom, bodily autonomy, not being forced by the government to take a jab.
I'm worried about nuclear war.
I think that women are being mistreated by the transgender movement.
These are all things that I think leftists used to care about, or certainly say they care about, certainly said they cared about more than how I cared about them.
But I find that discombobulating.
And I find it unusual to see certain liberals cheering for things we're doing.
Just a very unusual time we're in.
I'm still working on those ideas, but thank you for your kind words.
Tanya Bebb says, hey, Ezra, are you becoming controlled opposition?
I have supported you for over two years, as well as supporting True North and other such organizations.
I am disappointed in your coverage of Jeremy McKenzie.
All right.
Well, thank you very much for putting that to me.
Now, I must confess that I am not deeply immersed in the subject of Jeremy McKenzie.
I understand that he's a Canadian dissident protester who has protested against Trudeau and has suffered in various ways for it, including legally.
And the latest news is that he has been debanked.
That is, Scotiabank refuses to bank with him anymore.
And that is of no surprise to me, as Rebel News itself has been debanked.
You might recall that about a year ago, we tried to get a mortgage, and the two lending officers said, wow, love to.
You've got a great balance sheet.
We'll give you it no problem.
But later on said, uh-oh, head office has nixed it for political reasons.
So I know exactly what it's like to be debanked.
I think you're referring to an out-of-context excerpt from Sheila Gunnread's report on Jeremy McKenzie, where she lists his flaws and his failures, but goes on quickly to say anyone, no matter what their flaws, deserves the right to bank.
And she points out that Omar Cotter, the terrorist, and Carla Homoca, the mass murderer, they have the right to a bank account.
So I think you're mistaking and misunderstanding what Sheila Gunnread was doing.
She was saying she doesn't have to agree with or even like someone to stand up for his rights to bank.
I think Sheila was taking a very principled stand.
And as far as controlled opposition, that makes me laugh whenever I hear it.
If we're controlled opposition, I would suggest to you that we're quite uncontrollable.
We're always fighting with the government, whether it's in court or on the streets in our journalism, and they fight back.
Unfortunately, they punch us, they shoot us, they block us, they demean us in a way that no other media is treated in this country.
That's not controlled opposition.
That is opposition.
And sometimes we pay a high price for it.
But I appreciate you writing to me nonetheless.
Well, that's our show for today.
Until Monday.
On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.