Kyle Lucey critiques Canada’s inflation denial, citing $6B+ in government spending while mocking public ignorance and hypocrisy—like Justin Trudeau’s notwithstanding clause use versus Doug Ford’s backlash. He argues hate speech laws stifle comedy, recounting his own suspension for a "white trash" joke and questioning how artists like Louis CK or Kanye West rebound despite cancellations. Lucey’s career thrived on Instagram before shifting to explicit comedy, proving content control trumps censorship. His rants extend to homelessness ("stinky winkies"), vaccine mandates, and Ukraine aid, exposing perceived double standards while Lincoln contrasts Canada’s mask policing with England’s relaxed approach, hinting at deeper institutional distrust. [Automatically generated summary]
So basically, we were asking, as everybody saw, that we were asking them how inflation has affected them.
I think I told people that I was asking that it infected them.
So maybe they got a little scared a couple times.
But we were talking about at the end there about how most people didn't really seem to have any notion as to what causes it at all.
There was like one guy.
I feel like the average person is so programmed that they just, they wake up, they smoke weed, and then they just watch Netflix.
They're like, oh, that's funny.
And they just love the feeling of like Oreos just dissolving on their molars that they don't take the time to actually find out what's happening.
And I barely do either, but at least I know I'm, I don't know what the fuck's going on.
That's fair.
A lot of the people, they don't want...
Did you get the feeling that a lot of people don't want to blame somebody?
I mean, it's the federal government.
Like, there's no question about it.
The federal government that prints the money are the ones that print the money.
They're the cause for inflation.
Maybe Justin Trudeau has been in long enough that it's his government.
Do you get the feeling that people don't even want to be like quote-unquote mean and say that?
Like, I blame the government?
Yeah, I mean, I feel like with exactly what you just said, like, they'll do like really crazy things that end up being harmful and there's just no accountability for that.
Like, it's almost like there's accountability if someone like from the right messes up.
Like, you see how Trudeau just spoke against Doug Ford when he did the same thing, the notwithstanding clause.
So, like, when people on the left do it, it's like, we're not even talking about that right now.
This is a time for healing.
Why would you even bring that up?
But then there's like, you know, pitchforks and like mobs wherein anyone else mess up.
So it's just like the hypocrisy is starting to get a little annoying.
I think everybody is starting to wake up to it, but people just don't want to openly say like what's going on.
Everybody's waiting for somebody else to raise their hand and say, hey, this is messed up.
And then they might like like it and share it privately.
But a lot of people don't.
They just don't want to ruin their day-to-day, their everyday life.
And it's a shame that just like, you know, just speaking your mind does that now, which is pretty crazy.
It shouldn't.
Yeah, and people might have some preconceived notion going out there as Rebel News and be like, you must like Doug Ford.
But most of the people here don't like Doug Ford, if I may say so.
I mean, when he first came in, he sort of did some things right, I thought.
But when you talk about the notwithstanding clause and everything, and Trudeau is saying how bad it is when Ford does it, and I agree that he shouldn't be, which they've now taken away, by the way, passing this thing that says you can't strike, which is obviously against the norms of this country.
But when Justin Trudeau does it, it's okay because it's against people I disagree with.
I think it's bad at all times.
I might disagree with the reasons why people are doing it, but you should still be able to protest.
And I think a lot of people have these preconceived notions that are now going away where you sort of see, you can see them.
There's a David Menzies video where he's asking these protesters.
You can sort of see the gears working where they're thinking, well, I didn't like it when Justin Trudeau, or I did like it when Justin Trudeau did it because I'm against the truckers or whatever, but now they're doing it to me, and I don't understand why people dislike it.
Like, it's they're getting there, and I think people are getting closer and closer.
And Lincoln, you were there, right?
Did you get that vibe or am I way off?
Like, were people starting to realize, hey, like, we're not that far away from these like trucker supporter people or Freedom Convoy people that I thought I was.
I wasn't as far away from them ideologically as I actually think, or did they not get it at all?
Yeah, at first, but now I feel like I feel like that narrative quickly changed because now a lot of the people that were on board, like when the convoy first started, like majority, like a lot of Canadians were on board with everything, but then they lost a lot of Canadians when they stayed there in Ottawa.
A lot of people felt like they should have left.
So honestly, and after hearing the reviews with the commission and everything, I feel like that's like the consensus that most Canadians have is that they should have left.
It was weird at first.
They were all on board, but honestly, a lot of the supporters kind of, you know, switched gears when they saw it was going on for like two, three weeks.
So I don't know.
It's tough to say.
I just don't understand why people are okay with the government being the ones to tell you to shut everything down, but the people can't ever decide that.
And it's not like anybody was getting hurt.
We know that for a fact.
Nobody got hurt.
Crime actually went down because people weren't doing anything.
And that's okay for when the government says you can't go to work or shut these things down for your safety.
It's like you have to sort of have this belief in the government that it's a group of people who are very smart, who would only do decisions when it's absolutely necessary.
And that's just not true.
Yeah, they're not held to the same standard at all.
And that's frustrating.
Now, some of the people were saying that, you know, of course, costs of groceries have gone up.
Of course, gas, some younger people said it's too expensive for gas.
Maybe they don't own their own car.
Their parents make them pay for the gas.
But that's hard to avoid.
But still here, they don't have anyone to blame.
If that happened in America, America's very heavy on how much energy costs when their elections come around.
Do you think there's going to be something or is there a topic that gets people to say, hey, there isn't really a difference here between the liberals and conservatives?
If you agree with that, I think, yeah, like, you know, we all know that like a Canadian conservative is an American liberal, like politically.
So, you know, but what I do notice is that no one pins any blame on anyone who's liberal, even when they mess up.
It has to be really obvious.
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Like, I find everybody will, you know, speak up against Justin Trudeau wearing something like blackface.
But, you know, for everyday things and especially for some of the decisions he's made, people, it's more quiet.
It's more people will say it to me.
And like what I noticed too, when I was doing shows and stuff like that, is that people would be like, hey, can you share this?
Can you post this?
Can you do this?
And it's like just saying, Justin Trudeau is a communist or whatever.
And it's like, well, why don't you do it?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, as I'm already posting, I made like the Canadian flag, but I took out the leaf and I put the hammer and sickle.
And I would like post stuff like that.
And it's like, well, why don't you post it?
No, everybody's afraid.
And there is a lot of fear going on because, you know, if you speak up against this, then you will lose out in certain avenues.
And that's just like, that's starting to happen to some of our friends.
And yeah.
And we can transition that into what we were talking about earlier.
Our sweet, way too long car ride back to the studio from the streets.
Takes like an hour to get three and a half kilometers or something.
About there was a cancellation of Ben Bankus and Danny Polishuk, who's got the podcast with Ryan Long, who's been on the show.
And that was a comedy club saying, hey, 24 hours before your show happens, we're offended by you.
And you were saying that's happening in a way where it's like, basically, you're blaming the booker for not knowing who the person is.
And you had a funny comparison to like Slayer.
Well, yeah, it's like these, okay, so if you're going to put a comedy show on, you know, everybody's just so lazy.
They don't do the research.
They just book and then someone shows up and they start freaking out.
But like if you had like a banquet hall and it's for, you know, the events for like, you know, a 60th anniversary and everybody's 80 years old and you book a death metal ban, that's on you.
You know what I mean?
So it's no problem.
Like if, you know, if you own a business, it's no problem if you want it to be a certain way for your clientele.
Nobody's saying anything against that.
But it's when you make a mistake and you make this last minute change and you put the artist and you also put everybody who came out to see that artist, you know, in this really weird position.
How do you then stand like as a, I guess they're trying to take this like moral stance, but it's like, it's just so unnecessary to inconvenience people in this way when you're the one who didn't do the research.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, and what happened with Andrew Schultz?
What was that?
Massey Hall.
It's like, you guys don't know who Andrew Schultz is?
You couldn't have just YouTubed him.
You're going to cancel it last minute once he booked the date.
Once the artist, you know, put money into advertisement, put, you know, that there's like money at stake here and it makes them look bad to their fans and stuff.
And it's like, all of this could have been avoided.
Maybe when people reach out to your venue, that's when you do the research.
Hey, should we get this person?
But that never happens, you know?
Well, something that that is something that people can come together on because I notice whenever there's a story about, well, there was Chappelle being canceled or these people canceling somebody because they're offended.
That's something I think where people from both sides come out and say, hey, that's something we don't want.
And to your point, they'll say, if you don't want it, then like, why did you have him there in the first place?
There are going to be, of course, the hyper like leftist people who say, oh, that's actually offensive and you're denigrating people.
But I think for the most part, probably over 90% of people think that you shouldn't be, you know, saying that a person can't speak.
But we are in Canada and there are laws against, like, it would be within legal grounds of the government to say your jokes are hate speech.
And that's why there's a problem with our system.
And that's why I think people probably have a problem with it, but they don't realize that we do not actually have freedom of speech basically even as a concept anymore.
But you also mentioned how he had a YouTube video taken down.
I think it was because he was commenting on like what he says is anti-Semitism.
And they took down his criticism.
He's saying that other people shouldn't be anti-Semitic.
And this is Danny Polichuk, a Jewish person.
And then they took down his video for criticizing that, which is obviously inverted, whether you disagree with him or not.
Dude, it's just like robots that are behind it.
Like, he said anti-Semites.
And they just take it, the servers just take it off.
Like, it's, if there was like a human being behind it, it'd be like, well, he's Jewish and he's making fun of it.
Like, there used to be in comedy, like, you know, Russell Peters would like, you know, go up on stage and he'd make fun of himself and his ethnicity and his cultural heritage.
And then that he would leapfrog to sort of do other people's stuff like that.
But it's like, so that's sort of, you know, in comedy, a lot of people make fun of themselves.
But when you can't even do that anymore, it's like a huge problem.
And obviously there's so much oversight and they're ruining people's lives because comedy right now, it's all about content.
So when you ban somebody off of a platform when they're making fun of themselves, it's like the most ridiculous thing ever.
Do you really think that they would be okay with it?
I get the context.
I think in some of these left-wing institutions of social media, and we're seeing that with Twitter now, they don't want anything they don't like.
So I'm not sure if in Silicon Valley they have actual people sitting there.
Would they say, oh, I get the, he's his contacts.
I'm going to allow it to be up.
I think there's still people there that are going to click on things.
And I think that's been proven with the Project Veritas stuff, the undercover videos of Facebook and Twitter.
Where they, I remember one saying where a person has an American flag and a cross in their profile, like, those people don't exist.
They're obviously bots without any evidence, and we're going to shadow ban them.
But it happened to you, though, didn't it?
You making fun of yourself.
It was, what was it?
Well, I did a post.
Calling yourself white.
It was actually, it was so crazy, too.
Because I have a joke saying, and I don't know if this is going to make me like look bad, but I've actually never voted.
I like literally, everyone's like, it's the election today.
And I'm like, like, I'm literally on the toilet taking a shit.
Like, I've never gotten to it.
Right.
And then I have a joke saying, like, I've never voted provincially or federally.
I've never, but that being said, every day I go online and I vote for Eminem to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
And he finally did it.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, that's what my joke was.
And then the caption of that was like, oh, look how white trash I am.
It was something like that.
And then it got taken down and my account got like on, you know, I have like almost 40,000 followers on Instagram.
And it got like, I couldn't post or do anything for two days.
And they're like, you might lose your entire account.
And I'm like, you know, where does that put a guy like me when content is so important?
Arguably content's more important than doing like live shows now.
You know what I'm saying?
So you're going to like take away this thing that I built for like 10 years because, you know, I call myself white trash.
That doesn't even make sense.
And, you know, it's just weird like how that would happen.
And it, I don't know.
It just, it's, it's, it's so stupid.
And obviously there's not like a sane person behind a decision like that, which is just like, it creates so much frustration.
So it, it's hard to even, you know, I, I, I don't think people can like get canceled.
And I have a theory on that because like let's hear it.
Well, like, you know, look at someone like Louie.
He just won an Emmy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like for his album, right?
For comedy album.
For comedy.
So it's like, basically, here's what it is.
In your route to like, you know, in comedy, whatever your name is, let's say, let's even use me, Kyle Lucy, whatever.
That's a brand.
That's the same thing as like Adidas or something, obviously way less.
And obviously, my brand is covered in lice.
Are Adidas covered in lice?
No.
Was that just a saying that?
No, just swastikas, according to Conrad.
Okay.
But like, no, like you'll, you have your brand, right?
And then you could either be someone who like blows your brand up to the moon by posting your own content and stuff like that, or you could like call in networks to bolster your brand.
And so anytime you do something like a scandal or something like that, the net, the networks or whoever who have bolstered your brand have the option to then say, hey, I don't want to associate with this brand.
So, you know, look at someone like Kanye West.
He had several things like Adidas that were bolstering him up to be a billionaire.
Now, he's completely, if he did his own thing and then shot back up, it's like, is he canceled?
No, he's like right back up.
Like anyone who you could essentially just do it yourself and then no one could cancel you.
You just lose the things that were given you by like other networks.
Louis is also a good example.
Yeah, he lost his show on FX, but they still gave it to him.
You know what I mean?
So, other things weren't bolstering him.
But then he just said, Okay, now my website is like what I'm using as my own network.
And then now he's back.
And so it's like, you know, even if you get like your Instagram account or whatever taken away, bro, my TikTok has, I've been banned like eight times on TikTok.
Like literally, if you sign in on TikTok, it says sign in through Facebook, sign in through Twitter, sign in through Gmail, and sign in through Google.
I've been banned from all of those.
And now I make fake Gmails to do it all over again.
You could, so you're never really going to be banned.
You know what I'm saying?
You just keep making fake accounts and then uploading content.
As long as the video has your name on it in some way.
Yeah.
Like it now, like I first it was Kyle Lucy Comedy and then I said Kyle Lucy Comedy.
So C-U-M-E-D-Y.
So it's like, whatever.
And then I just change it.
And then I'm back.
Don't let anybody tell you you're not a brilliant writer.
Yeah.
I mean, like, how did you get to like almost 40K followers?
Was it gradual or did you have like a couple hits that just like spiked you up?
Like, it's weird.
I'm right now experiencing something where.
So, okay, so like maybe like eight years ago, this is going to be very cringe.
So I did a bunch of like acting work or whatever where I was like on set and stuff like that.
And so like people from like Brazil would follow me and be like, oh, he's famous.
And then I posted like shirtless selfies up the ass with like 30 fucking hashtags of pop.
And then it just like things just, I started getting like 700 likes.
Then when stuff like reels were introduced, I was like, oh, now's a good time to like post my comedy.
So I actually had like close to, I have 36,000.
And then I was close to 50,000.
So then I started posting clips of my comedy and my comedy is more like dirty or whatever or X-rated.
When I started posting clips of my comedy, I lost 20,000 followers.
So then like nothing happened.
And so now I've been consistent again.
And, you know, I've had a couple videos get like a couple hundred thousand views or whatever, but that took, you know, like I post 10 times a day now.
So it's so important to like have content.
Yeah, because if you don't, it's as you see the followers, just they just dripple down, you know, if you don't post anything.
That's it.
You sort of have to like keep blowing up to, or else it's just, yeah, exactly how you said, it just goes down.
And I don't get anything from having a following or whatever.
But like, if you get something like 100,000 followers, then you could like start selling tickets as a comedian.
You could start doing your own thing.
So it's, it's very important to do that.
So when you put something like that in jeopardy, I don't think, you know, I don't think the people who are doing that understand like the domino effect it has on artists.
But, you know, this country doesn't give a fuck about its artists.
That's true.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they, you look at like Spotify, Weekend is number one right now on Spotify.
You know what I'm saying?
A Canadian artist.
Justin Bieber is number six.
I saw like, I was literally on the way.
You really know these rankings.
No, like I like to always keep up to date which Canadians are like.
And Drake is like nine or something like that.
Like Canadians are dominating the music industry, but it's like, okay, do we get any grant?
Like I was even applying for grants and stuff like that to do like a one-man show.
Comedy is not recognized as an art.
So we get no grant funding.
But storytelling is an art.
What the like.
You need to do your own slam poetry then.
Who goes to a storytelling show ever?
But people go to comedy clubs.
But what are you going to let's go to a storytelling show and drink red wine?
And there's four people in the audience and a fucking cat as a barista.
The berets are probably very prevalent.
Yeah.
I mean, it's sort of whack, but it is what it is.
It's, I don't know.
I don't even know.
Switching gears a bit back to the streets we did.
I really enjoyed.
I don't know if you've experienced this before.
I know you've been doing some sort of that content recently, but I'm not sure you've ever had the pleasure of enjoying the guy who might be drunk or on drugs, never stopping talking to you.
Because the one guy you probably saw in the video, I thought he was going to hug you or attack you, whichever one.
He looked like he had like, he was grinding his teeth like he just fucking dumped a bunch of fentanyl in his frosted flakes.
He was on something, but I like.
He had the right answers, though.
He was like, you know, this is a global shutdown.
It's something else.
He really wanted to get you to say something for some reason.
He just came to us.
Yeah, I know.
He said, not much sound coming from that microphone.
And I was like, usually microphones are not emitting sound.
They're receiving.
He's like, oh, it's a conversation starter.
And it's like, so you really saw a person with a microphone.
You wanted to really talk to them.
And then you wanted to put the onus on us to say things.
It was very strange.
And I wasn't sure if you'd experienced such a lengthy interview with a possibly homeless man.
I couldn't tell what was in his bags.
He was wearing, yeah, I know.
He was wearing like brand name clothing, but also those brand name clothing were covered in urine.
So there's also that to account for.
I wanted to just like, I like getting guys like that and just like giving them like $30.
They could bite the head off of a pigeon or something.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like just, that'd be hilarious.
But yeah, he was certainly, yeah, he was certainly on something.
I have a feeling that he, um, he is no longer in contact with his children.
Just but you ever just look at a person and you just see all the tartar in their teeth?
And you're like, your stepdaughter doesn't talk to you anymore, does she?
You have a lot of tartar in you.
Like, honestly, so much tartar in the teeth where you could like chisel it away and like make a statue of David in the molars for Christ's sakes.
Like, honestly, it's just like he had so much tartar.
It was like, he had block teeth.
Like, it looked like someone, the animators from Dragon Ball Z drew his teeth because they were just blocks.
Poor guy.
We realized today that we're from the same place, basically.
And I remember growing up, there was like one homeless guy around in Oshawa.
You throw rocks at him.
Nobody, he wouldn't bug you.
The bearded guy in Oshawa.
But do you think Toronto has a homeless problem?
You were telling me a theory you had recently.
Yeah.
Well, first of all, first of all, really deliberately.
I don't call them homeless.
I call them stinky winkies.
And I want to go on the record to say that.
Second of all, I have the right to say this.
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I used to respect homeless people, but then when there was COVID lockdowns, they took over the TTCs like pirates and they yelled on the intercom, I am decaptain now.
You see, so you look at all the assaults that were happening during COVID.
There was like that lady was lit on fire.
There were multiple stabbings.
People were being pushed in front of subways, oncoming subways and stuff like that.
So it's just like, all these are like homeless people that were like snapping and being violent.
And it was like the perfect crime syndicate because, oh, you're like, I'm going to call the cops and you're on the subway and there's no service.
So, and it's, you know, they're just living down there.
I would turn the corner on the TDC and people just like taking a shit, like, fuck you.
You know what I mean?
This is my place.
And so it's just like, you know, how do we respond to that?
So I was like, how do I deal with this?
How does the city deal with this?
So I had an idea and it's a little unorthodox, but we should grab all the homeless people and put them in the green bin.
You put them in the green bin.
You can figure the green bins where you're from.
You got to get human-sized green bins or you could just cram them down by just, you know, we do it with our garbage.
You shove it down with your foot.
And what's great is that you could dump a homeless person in like a compost yard and they're so lazy that they're not going to get up and leave.
They will just decompose into the soil.
And you got to look, anyone who says, Kyle, that's inhumane.
It's like, you got to ask them, like, do you not care about the environment?
Like, what about the environment?
Right.
And also, it's like, I don't know.
I feel like it'd be really good for the economy if we were to cannibalize the homeless people into the earth.
Are you familiar with the movie called Soil and Green?
It's almost a theory.
Turn people into food.
Basically, I'm listening.
It's the plot of a late 60s Charlton Heston movie that they showed us in high school.
Not sure why they showed that to us in high school.
Maybe the teacher was ahead of the curb.
Or is it Curve?
But I don't remember her name.
It was in media class.
We watched a few weird movies.
I remember being very surprised.
We watched Fahrenheit 9-11.
And then the teacher's like, that's propaganda.
Don't even listen to it.
What's propaganda is, so I went to Texas and then I flew back into Canada.
This was like, I don't know, maybe a year or so ago.
And literally, when you go into Texas, everything's open and everything was awesome.
And then you fly into Canada right when you get out of the airport.
There's just like billboards that are 30 feet tall.
Like, I wear a mask to protect from my grandma.
And it's just like, that's like propaganda.
Like all this stuff when you see all the myocarditis cases coming out.
And when you can't even log into a Wi-Fi channel on the subway, which is like, let's get the children vaccinated.
Is that the name of the Wi-Fi?
Literally, it comes up.
Like, so if you log into Wi-Fi on the TTC, the first ad that comes up is like this cool design that comes out.
It's like, vaccinate the children.
And then you just see all this like, these heart attacks that are coming out.
Like, everybody knows.
And I actually got two vaccine doses.
So I, you know, I got it because I was sort of like, holy shit, like, I don't know what's going to happen.
But then when they're like, you know, I still got COVID after I got two vaccine doses.
And I'm like, okay, what the hell?
And then you just see all the heart issues that it could cause.
And there's no, they were saying that that's not going to happen.
And then it was happening.
It's just like, okay, well, this is complete bullshit.
And it's crazy that like getting, I don't know what it is.
This is a rant, but like there is a force on earth that is obsessed with injecting children with shit.
And I don't know what it is, but they're like, vaccinate the children.
And I don't know what it is.
Is that big pharma?
Yeah.
I was thinking yesterday or the day before, it's all blur at this point.
When you're doing nothing but diet Pepsi and Taco Bell, everything's a blur.
But I'm watching TV.
Single dads across the country just related to that.
I don't even have kids, so there's a problem, I guess.
It's all that Madden.
The commercial for Shoppers Drug Marts, get your flu shot.
And I know for a fact there's people out there who, because I've spoken to them, oh, I'll be getting my flu shot.
Why not?
It's free.
You are literally being sold a product as if it's just the government saying, we love you so much that we're going to make these available to you for free.
Forget that we're using your tax dollars to then pay pharmaceutical companies who then say, which company wants to carry our vaccine?
We'll give you money for that too.
And then it settles on Shoppers Drug Mart, who is, I'll use the word colloquially in bed with, because obviously Doug Ford really likes the shopper drug mark people.
Is he evolved in them in a corrupt way?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Maybe.
I don't know.
But then there are the people who end up carrying it.
And it's like, no, we're doing it just because we love you.
It has nothing to do with selling the vaccine, buying it from these companies, and getting you in the store to get you to buy more things.
Any person who does sales will tell you that having the person in the store will get them to buy things.
If you watch a lot of bar rescue, and I do, he says if the longer you're there, the more drinks you buy.
If you eat food, you're 12 times more likely to buy or buy more drinks or something like that.
So they're getting you in the door.
It is a marketing play.
And to think that this is all out of the love of the game, as they say, probably in a baseball movie, then you're lying to yourself because it's not free.
It's all a certain, then why do you think they want social services that aren't just free health care?
It's fine if you want free health care.
You don't want anybody to not be able to afford getting their arm fixed when it's broken or something.
But there's all these other programs.
Jagmeet Singh, so happy about free dental health.
This isn't actually free.
It's just every time the government buys something, there's somebody on their other side who's like, sweet, the government's going to give me a contract and I can really overcharge them.
Because there's not going to be this debate on whether or not we can save money from the people in charge.
They're going to say, yep, we passed it.
Everybody loves it.
Who can do this for us?
How much is it going to cost?
Okay, great.
That's the price it costs.
There's always a business angle to all of this.
And you saw it during lockdowns.
Walmart gets to stay open.
LCBO gets to stay open.
Beer store gets to stay open.
But not any other small place.
You can't go to your local deli.
Shout out.
I won't even say them.
I don't want to get them canceled.
Polish deli in Oshawa.
Maybe there's only one.
I don't know.
But those places weren't allowed to stay open.
It's because they wanted to drive business to the preferred places.
So that's all it is.
Go get your vaccine.
Go get your flu shot.
You're going to have to go to shoppers drug mark to get it, though.
We're not just going to hand it to you.
We're not just going to set up this thing on the side of the street or anything like that, which they did in the U.S., whether you agree with it or not.
Most of them were empty because people didn't actually go.
But it is a thing where people will make money off of it.
And I don't know if people are willing to accept that.
It's like the last bastion of, you know, trust in an industry is mostly gone because of the whole COVID lockdown things.
You used to think, well, doctors, they want to take care of you and all this, but then there was doctors that didn't want people to get certain therapeutics for it, whether it's the antibodies or the ivermectin or whatever somebody wanted.
There's doctors who said, no, you're crazy.
You can't have that.
And I don't know what, you know, what institution has to go next in order for people to realize that there isn't this person who's standing over Justin Trudeau and saying, you know, Justin, that's a little mean.
We love everybody.
We should be doing it a different way.
And then, you know, I was going to say something that they do to each other, but I won't say that.
I'm supposed to be the straight man in this.
I'll leave the jokes to you, you know?
But I don't know what else has to happen.
We get to this point.
Like, we can go with the Ukraine route if you want.
Do you really think they're just giving them all this money because they love the Ukrainian people, want to protect them?
Is that what Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden are doing?
Or is there some other reason?
Whatever it may be.
Do you really think the reason is love?
Why they're giving money to Ukraine?
Yeah.
Do you think it's really because they love the people?
Or why aren't they giving it to like Sudan?
Or why aren't they giving it to this poor South American country?
Why aren't they just saying, here's $50 billion?
Because if we can afford it, then why aren't we doing that all over the world?
I don't know why they're giving Ukraine money.
I thought you might know.
No, no, no.
But I mean, like, I also like, I think it's weird that, you know, I think they were like letting Ukrainians come in without being vaccinated.
Exactly.
What was that?
And then Canadian citizens, if they weren't vaccinated, were still at a certain point not allowed to fly.
Stuff like that is just like it's absolutely ridiculous.
And, you know, you know, when you're, I'm like right now looking to like leave Canada and stuff like that.
And you've got to like, you know, pay up and do a lot to get into another country.
But it seems like we're like, we treat our citizens like second class almost.
And I don't know, people like don't know how to just zoom out and be like, yo, I could actually like change this in a way.
A lot of people are complacent in that.
And I think that's what just makes things stuck in this way, you know?
Lincoln, you've gone around to the Netherlands now, England, Argentina in the last year and a half.
Is it, does it feel as hopeless in the other places or do you think that's uniquely Canadian?
It's hard to say because when I went to Netherlands, it was open.
Argentina, it was wide open.
When I went to England, it was nice because everything was locked down here, but they were starting to open it.
But the only thing that's different that I've noticed is that Canadians like to, like, they like to tell other people what to do and they feel like they're like playing the hero, you know, by like telling someone to put their mask on or whatever the case may be.
But like in England, you know, when COVID was still like rampant, quote unquote, you know, nobody, I would not wear the mask on the train.
Other people wouldn't wear their masks on the train and nobody would say anything.
You know, it didn't matter.
People just did their own thing.
But in Canada, you know, you go into a grocery store when masks were, when you had to wear a mask and you'd have like five, six different people telling you to put the mask on.
You know, they don't even work at the store, just like customers.
So that's the main difference that I noticed.
I feel like Canadians are obsessed with just, oh, I don't want to be a dick.
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Yeah.
And it's like, that just like guides their behavior to the point where they're like, they don't actually do what they want to do.
It's gotten to the point where they don't want to be a dick so badly that they're willing to just accept having fewer rights.
Yeah.
The problem is that the government, like it's the, it's the ultimate manipulation because they basically made it seem like if you don't follow the rules that we have in place, you're literally killing people.
You know, and Canadians, as they are stereotypically nice as they are, you know, they're like, the last thing I want to do is kill somebody.
So I'm going to follow all these rules.
I'm going to tell other people to follow the rules because that's being a Canadian.
Kyle Lucy, anything else you want to talk about before we let you go?
I got an album coming out, but it's probably not going to be out till you play bass.
Do I play bass?
No.
I would have an instrument.
Yeah, just a comedy album.
I recorded it.
I headlined Toronto Yuck Yucks a couple months ago, and I recorded the album with Cottage Comedy Digital.
So it should be out in a few months.
I still don't have the name, but if you follow me on Instagram, I think all my socials is just Kyle Lucy Comedy, like K-Y-L-E-L-U-C-E-Y comedy.
And all of my, all the album stuff is going to be there in a month or so, couple months.
Very cool.
Can't wait to listen.
Thank you very much, good sir.
Thanks for having me.
It's been a pleasure.
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