Tom Marazzo recounts Tamara Lich’s emotional Trucker Commission testimony, denying police coordination claims while criticizing Trudeau’s seven-year refusal to engage with convoy protesters. He highlights OPS procedural delays, veterans like Chris Deering’s brutal arrests, and media threats—including pet and child removal rhetoric—framing the convoy as a peaceful protest against COVID-19 mandates. The segment ends by questioning Trudeau’s priorities, from Ukraine funding to alleged censorship, while promoting Rebel News Live events and warning of potential bank account freezes for attendees. [Automatically generated summary]
Before we get started talking about everything that went on today, I also have another guest here, Tom Morazzo, Freedom Convoy.
I don't know how to call him anymore.
He testified under all that he's not an organizer.
He's not the leader.
I'd say key person, key figure.
Yeah, I just prefer volunteer.
It's just, it's a, you know, in truth, all of us were volunteers.
Everybody was a volunteer.
So to try to create these labels, what's the point?
Every Canadian that went there voluntarily went to Ottawa for the convoy.
No, you're definitely right.
So I guess Tom Morazzo, he figured Film Convoy.
And yeah, so how are you doing, Tom, today?
I'm good.
It's been a crazy, really, it's just been a really bizarre week.
And this afternoon was the icing on the cake.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So just before we fully start, I've got a couple of things to get to.
Rebel News Live.
So Rebel News is finally doing their live events once again after years of not doing them.
We will have an event in Toronto on Saturday, November 19th, and one in Calgary on November 25th as well.
So that'll be definitely interesting.
You'll be able to meet your other Rebel News reporters.
Ezra Levin is going to be here.
Sheila Gunnery is going to be here.
At the event in Toronto, I know that Tamara Leash is going to be there as well.
Tomorrow will not be there, unfortunately, from what I understand because of Tamara Leash's great, amazing bell conditions.
I don't allow her to basically have basic freedom of speech.
So, but you'll be able to hear from Tamara Leash herself.
The tickets can be found at rebelnewslive.com.
That's number one.
Number two, Tom Morato has his book.
So I don't know if Tom, you want to talk about your book a little bit?
Yeah, we can talk about it.
I'm still writing the book.
I've taken a little bit of a break from writing the book just because of my participation in the inquiry.
But I think the witness list is going to allow me a little bit of a breathing room next week to get back and do some more writing.
And yeah, so I'm looking forward to getting back to writing the book.
And for quite a while, I actually considered getting a ghostwriter because I was concerned about the time, but I just felt like I had to do it myself.
Like I really had to write this in my own words.
And for quite a while, I actually struggled with even writing the book.
I wasn't sure that it was just my story to tell.
And I had some conversations with some of the other volunteers of the convoy.
And I kind of felt like I was, in a sense, given, I don't want to say the word permission, but agreement that it was appropriate that I write my version of the book, right?
So what's the book about basically the budget about your convoy?
Yeah, basically my experience.
So I've got a couple of rules that I'm guiding myself when I write this book.
And one is if for the most part, the rule is I got to treat it like a GoPro.
So if I had a, if the GoPro doesn't see what happened, it's not going to be in the book.
After the last few weeks, I think that's why I said.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I think the other thing is the book is not about criticizing anybody.
If anything, the only people in it will be criticized would be, you know, obviously the government and their actions.
And truthfully, myself for any of the mistakes that I think that I made during the convoy.
But there's no reason for me to cast anybody in a bad light.
I'm just telling the truth from what I remember, what my recollection of the experience was.
Do you have a date in mind for when that'll be released?
Yes, I do.
It'll be released 14th of February, which is the one-year anniversary of the invocation of the Emergency Act.
I love that.
It's not because of what's the day, Valentine's.
And the book is called The People's Emergency Act.
And so I think it's an appropriate name for that because a good friend of mine who was in Windsor, I found out after he was in Windsor and was arrested.
And he said to me one day, he says, you know, the convoy was the People's Emergency Act because after two years, nobody was listening.
And so I thought that was just a brilliant insight and a great name for the book.
So that's what it's going to be called.
That's why it's called The People's Emergency Act.
Well, that'll be a great book.
I truly look forward to its release and reading about it.
Other things as well.
If you guys want to chat with us, you can always go on Rumble or Audience Send paid chats.
If you send a couple, we'll be able to read them at the end of the live stream.
And also, one last thing, Tom, you're only wearing a dress shirt today.
Last time you spoke on the live stream, you were better dressed than me.
We're having a great suit today.
I have the tie.
I have the suit.
Why aren't you wearing it?
Well, the thing is this, like the tie that you're wearing was the tie that I had on, I think, at the beginning of last week.
So technically, I don't know.
Yeah, this is a great shirt.
I do my monologues in this shirt because it's such a comfortable shirt.
Yeah, well, it definitely is.
Guys, comment down below in the comment section who you think is the better judge between me and Tom.
All right, let's get to what happens today.
Let's get to what happens today at the commission.
Let's take a look at clip number one from Tamara Alicia's testimony.
Let's take a look at that.
Suggestion was made to have children leave the red zone.
Seems pretty clear to me that you were given the message, right?
I was never told I needed to leave.
So the PLTs, that's fabricated.
I remember when they came in and we had the discussion and I, as it says, became very upset.
I believe I said something to the effect of, I cannot believe that you're about to do this to your own people.
We were there protesting peacefully.
And the rest of that interaction, I was upset and I was crying.
And I was upset and you were crying because it was over and they told you to leave.
I was upset and I was crying because of what they were proposing to do to Canadian citizens.
And they told you to depart and they told you to message that to others.
I don't recall them telling me to message that to others or that I needed to leave.
I'm sorry, you don't know.
It was suggested.
It seems to me your memory is selective.
When I take you to something that implicates you, you have no memory of it.
That's inflammatory.
And if my friend wants to take the stand and become a witness and give opinions about credibility, that's fine.
But that's not a proper question, sir.
So I guess we'll start with you, Selene.
What did you make of Tamara's testimony today?
Yeah, okay.
So today was day two, Tamara's testimony.
It was very impactful.
It was exactly what I thought it would be.
I mean, she was very precise and concise with what she chose to speak about and talk about.
And this particular clip that we just watched here, how do you pronounce his name?
I will destroy it.
Do you, the lawyer?
The OPS?
Yeah.
Lawyer.
I'm not entirely sure.
I thought he was quite cranky this morning and definitely had a bone to pick with Tamara, especially.
I mean, that definitely was an inflammatory comment that he made there.
I didn't see him make any other retorts to anyone else giving testimonies.
So.
Yeah, 100%.
What about you, Tom?
What did you make of Tamara's testimony today?
Well, during her cross-examination, because you were here, I think, I think that she spoke to Samara's testimony yesterday.
Yeah, so there was, there was, I don't know, there's so many lawyers in the room.
Obviously, I think there's like four rows of lawyers on both sides of the room.
And that particular lawyer, he comes up all the time.
Unfortunately, I don't know his name.
But, you know, sometimes in being a lawyer, I think you don't always have to be a great lawyer for your client.
And unfortunately, my feeling was that today maybe would have been a good day for him not to be such a good lawyer because he was really, really aggressive and he was attacking on many different fronts.
And if we, I don't know if we're going to get into talking about Chris Deering and Maggie, but his cross to them today was quite offensive, but they're grasping at straws, right?
And from my perspective at this point, a lot of what you're hearing in the room, depending on which law firm you're dealing with or their client they represent, this is all about lawsuits at this point.
Some of these factions in the room have moved away from the inquiry and they're now covering their butts because of the pending law for lawsuits.
So that was an example to me where he wasn't so much talking about the Emergency Act.
This is about future lawsuits.
Yeah, of course.
Well, I think that's the reason why DOPS is there.
I think that's the reason why former Chief Slowly's counsel is there as well is because they know there's going to be something happening in the future.
A lawsuit between DOPS and Slowly, perhaps, and even the OPP.
I think that's the reason why they're all there.
They're all there to defend themselves.
And as we keep talking about, there's only a few parties that are there, including the Commission and the GCCF and the lawyers like Brendan Miller and Sheba that are actually there to figure out whether or not the Emergencies Act was used rightfully and justifiably.
Well, you know, it's interesting is, you know, I was there at the GAG20 summit in 2010.
And to this day, there are still ongoing lawsuits.
And we're talking 12 and a half years later.
So that was one or two days as well.
But we're going to be seeing lawsuits from this event in February going on beyond the next decade.
Yeah.
It is my personal experience from covering other court proceedings that the wheels of justice grind and squeak and do anything but turn easily.
So right now with the whole pressure was pushed on our justice system during the pandemic.
Yeah.
Let's keep having trials about pandemic tickets because you went to visit your family in their home.
No, our justice system, the pandemic definitely showed how weak or strong, if you want to put it, that we're a system actually is.
Oh, no, yeah.
Right.
There's a bunch of stuff to get to in terms of Tamara Lisha's testimony.
This gets clip number two that we have today.
Progress Under Pressure00:08:15
And you're right.
The letter says, we have made a plan to consolidate our best, our protest efforts around Parliament Hill.
We will be working hard over the next 40, 24 hours to get buy-in from the truckers.
We hope to start repositioning our trucks on Monday.
And that's worded that way, because at that point, the best that you could offer the mayor was efforts to get buy-in from the truckers, right?
Well, we needed to go out and speak to them and talk to them about what we thought was going to be a good idea.
Yes.
And it was important to you, I take it, to make clear that what had been agreed to was nothing more than moving the trucks out of the residential neighborhoods, right?
It was a step one.
That's how I viewed it.
It was it was progress.
It was more progress than we'd seen since we arrived.
Sydney?
It was progress to me.
There are so many pressures that we don't understand that these appointed organizers, right, by the people were facing.
I believe that it was progress no matter what.
There was thousands of people there.
Those trucks are not small.
Like there was a lot in terms of organization, in terms of how does one, I mean, I can't even think about driving a big truck, let alone, you know, trying to move it out under the pressures that they were facing.
So I think that it was indeed progress.
And we still saw the conferen organizers being able to assemble the people and actually get the trucks to move to the location that they were supposed to move and the city still cutting out of deals.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, the operative word in that whole statement was the word hope.
And there's another perspective on this as well.
One, there was concrete barriers.
Two, we obviously had challenges getting fuel to vehicles.
And a lot of the fuel was meant just for the generators in the vehicles as well to keep people warm in the trucks.
But the other issue is these are big pieces of equipment, right?
Big vehicles.
There's a safety aspect to this for the public and for the police officers around the vehicles and to the actual vehicle itself because you don't want those big expensive vehicles colliding with things.
And so you have to be very deliberate in your movement of these things.
So you can't, it's not like moving your little tiny Honda Civic, right?
It's a little bit more complicated than that.
I mean, visibility is an issue.
And when you're surrounded by the public that are there to support you, safety becomes a real issue.
So you can't rush through this.
And so that is, that was a factor that we all had to consider with this as well.
And then if you mix in bad weather, because at one point we did start to get rain, then we got freezing.
So there was ice.
Then we got a snowstorm.
So there's a weather element to this as well.
And then there's nighttime, right?
So visibility gets reduced at nighttime.
So there's lots of challenges.
So to say that we hope to get it done by a certain time, it's factoring in all of these different variables.
You know, it sounds pretty simple when you break it down that way, almost like it's like common sense.
Like five minutes.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
100%.
I think there's the environmental issue.
Plus, there's a fact that every trucker is its own sovereign being.
Yes.
Right.
You couldn't just order them.
I'm telling you to move the trucks.
You are going to move the truck.
You had to convince them.
You had to have a discussion with them and tell them that's the plan we have for cities that we're able to continue to peacefully protest these authoritarian vaccine mandates.
If you do so, we will be able to continue demonstrating peacefully in Ottawa.
How was that process like talking to people?
Were they usually compliant?
Or did you sometime fall on the cracks of some of that?
Well, there was challenges talking to some drivers and it really did matter who went up and talked to the driver.
So we heard the evidence and this is true.
This is why we sent Chris, Barbara, out there often to say, Chris, go talk to the guys and the girls and they would just comply.
I mean, I'm not a truck driver.
Look at the way I'm dressed, right?
I'm not going to go up there and have this instant rapport with truck drivers that have no idea who I am.
But when you send Chris out to do it, it's easy.
But there was occasions that, you know, Eva and I both for two hours sat in a in a French-Canadian guy's truck, and it was this pickup truck for two hours trying to negotiate with him and reason with him to convince him why it was a good idea for him to move.
And so it becomes a challenge depending on who you are, right?
And it takes time to build rapport with people and get them to understand what you're thinking and even then to trust you.
And we got that.
Eva and I got that trust that day and we worked for hours.
And then the leadership of the OPS ruined the deal.
And it wasn't slowly.
It was an one or two individuals in key positions that ruined the deal for everybody.
And then we lost trust in the police.
The police, what we saw in the testimony, said that we couldn't actually deliver.
Well, we couldn't deliver because you kind of screwed us.
Yeah.
Right.
And it all that work was lost.
All that trust that we built was lost.
And so I don't want to say that these people were difficult.
It's just that there was a history there that the Ottawa police had earned of mistrust between the truckers on, especially on that Rideau corner, because the police kept lying and tricking them to moving their vehicles.
So you couldn't trust them.
And we talked about the deal because we've been talking about it for the past three weeks, but there's some people that are only tuning in now to inquire.
Can you tell us a little bit more about what the deal was?
Yeah.
So we had an arrangement with the city to do our best to clear the intersection at Rideau in Essex or Wessex, one of the two.
Sussex or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, that corner there to clear it.
And it was a high priority for the city.
And I think the reason it was a high priority for the city is one, it was within like view of the United States consulate or embassy.
Yeah.
There was also other business interest on that intersection.
It was a good like flow through route for them that had an impact on buses and getting to the Rideau Center for public transportation, that kind of stuff.
So you go there and if you look, you would have realized why it became a priority for them.
And we were willing to do that.
And we were willing to try and help get the vehicles out of the more residential areas.
Towards Wellington.
And we wanted everything up on Wellington.
From a tactical point of view, and I use the term loosely, okay?
But from a tactical point of view, we knew that kind of put us in a weird situation to make it easier for the police to sweep through like they did on the last two days.
But as we saw, they cleared through anyway.
Yeah.
So it wasn't a huge sort of giveaway for us.
And also based on the fact that all the protesters remained peaceful, I mean, the police could have swept through any time that they wanted.
That was understood.
But people also are talking about, and it was my understanding that even just for the couple of days that I was there, there was a lot of rumors and speculation going on through like radio communication about potential dangers.
And I believe that also halted them from being able to move on a moment's notice because they were afraid.
They're afraid when people came up to their windows, if it was at night and they're being told to move.
These are all pressures and dangers that they were dealing with that I don't think anyone can understand except the people that were in those trucks hearing those things.
I mean, you're living in those trucks and truckers were in there for weeks.
And what's interesting to know is that Ottawa citizens were taking them into their homes, letting them have showers and doing laundry and feeding them and stuff and giving them a break so they could sleep in a bed for the night.
And there's there was a lot of resistance to moving off of that corner because it, you know, the truckers weren't there for themselves.
Hate, Organized Resistance00:05:30
The individuals were not there for themselves.
They were there for their families and for their entire communities.
Yeah.
You know, when you're sent off in this big grandiose parade from your community, you know that you're not going there as an individual.
You're carrying your entire community into Ottawa.
And that was never lost on the people that were in Ottawa.
Yeah.
Never.
And a lot of these people already felt like outcasts because they were there to protest the federal mandates.
So they put themselves out even further in a more vulnerable position to be able to be there.
Be there for everybody.
In a consistent theme that we've heard throughout this entire thing when we've had a chance to testify is everybody was everybody knew that we were no longer welcome to participate in the society that we helped build.
We were forbidden.
We were ostracized.
We were targeted by friends, families, neighbors, co-workers, definitely by Justin Trudeau, definitely by his bullhorn, the mainstream media.
And we were deliberately targeted with hate speech, as far as I'm concerned.
And they're looking at us as an inspiration of hate.
But leadership starts at the top in this federal government.
And it came from Justin Trudeau's mouth himself.
It said, why should we tolerate these people?
You know what I mean?
Like, this is the guy that was elected to represent the country.
He started the rhetoric and it just rolled downhill onto all of our backs.
And to this day, I still get called all sorts of vile things on social media by people that just seem to be so easily hypnotized by Justin Trudeau's nice hair, pre-haircut this summer, and the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth on CBC.
But even Tamara touched on it, you know, the fact that Justin Trudeau is using divisive words to unite Canadians.
That's his role, the Prime Minister is supposed to unite Canadians and you're dividing the country dividing.
He's been doing it since he was elected, even before he was elected.
Quebec versus Alberta.
Yes.
Quebecers are better than Albertans.
Okay, well, we should have more people in Quebec than we should have people from Alberta in our government.
That's what Justin Trudeau was saying, even before he was elected.
Justin Trudeau divided a lot of people.
I think Tamara's testimony touched on a lot of things.
And I was glad right after she ended her whole testimony and lasted nearly a full day because she did half of it yesterday and half of it today.
Yes.
I was able to have a quick interview with Eva Chipyuk, one of the many lawyers for Tamara.
Let's take a look at how my quick interaction with Eva forever went.
The best lawyer ever.
So can you just recap from what you saw?
How much time you want for what did you see from Tamara's testimony?
What are the main takeaways?
Well, it was really finally an opportunity for Canada to hear the truth of what really occurred with Miss Leach for the time she was in Ottawa and preparations for Ottawa.
Everything happened at such an expedited speed.
It was incredible.
The word organizer, I think she spoke to it, for me has always been very difficult.
What happened couldn't have been organized in a month's time.
Basically, it was a day-to-day activity.
It was just Canadians coming together for the first time in a long time, working together on a common goal, really to come together to talk about the overreach the federal government, provincial governments, even municipal governments imposed on their citizens.
And citizens came together on Parliament Hill to hold their government to account.
And we finally heard the story from Miss Leach's side.
Says she wasn't an organizer, was she?
Was she a leader?
How'd you describe her role in the convoy?
Because I think it's a little bit unclear yeah, and I think it's gonna remain unclear forever.
Um again, because everything happened at such a rapid pace and even she mentioned yesterday or today somebody asked her about how quickly the deal came together with the, the mayor.
Everything was organic, everything happened at such a quick pace.
How do you organize something like that?
It's virtually impossible.
You're just living, you're in the moment and you're doing what you can to ensure that, as she continued to say, things remain peaceful.
Um, everyone abided by the law and that is what she advocated.
If that's what she organized peace, then i'll give you that.
One and one last thing from me, can you explain why the OPS objected?
Some of the evidence being presented in the panel that we saw earlier at the OPS, the Ottawa Coalition, the op as well yeah so um, and as just uh, commissioner Roulot has said many times, everything's moving at a very fast pace.
So it was a procedural issue, very lawyerly, as you saw.
So there's rules of procedure and evidence and they were objecting because that evidence, those videos, were filed a little bit later in the game.
Uh, it wasn't as late as what we saw with uh Diane Dean's evidence that came in that morning the recording and we saw how the commissioner handled that.
Procedural Issues Revealed00:10:37
He said, first we want to know why this evidence is late and let's hear it first.
So he kind of had the same um procedure with uh this evidence that came a bit later.
It's all public information as well.
This is stuff that's on youtube.
It's not some secret government document or organizational document that came about, so everyone had their cell phone.
Like somebody said today.
Um, none of this is hidden evidence but of course you know, it's to be fair to all parties to have that evidence in advance.
Perfect thanks, Eva.
You're very welcome.
Thank you Eva, such a great story.
I feel like all of your lawyers are are excellent.
But you know, I live, I live with them all uh, right now for this, this inquiry, and I have to say, every day is such an amazing experience with them.
I mean Keith and Eva and I and and some of the others, we spent every day together during the actual convoy.
That's right, and um, I i've been in constant contact with them throughout the uh, you know, since the convoy.
But now I I live with Keith and Tamara lives with Eva, and that's because of Tamara's bail conditions, right um?
So when I, when I sit and I learn about how the lawyers think about the law and how they their their, their processes and stuff like that, I find it absolutely fan like, just so fascinating to watch.
And you know, they're worse than I.
I said to him last night we were still up like 11, 30 last night and I I realized they never stop, like they never, ever stop, and it's brilliant to watch them.
And I, if I was 10 years younger, I would consider law school just so that I could work with these guys like as an actual lawyer.
I would do it If I was 10 years younger, but I don't want a law firm taking my training wheels off when I'm 60.
So I'm not going to do it.
But it is incredible to be around these amazing lawyers.
And they're unusual lawyers, very, very unusual people.
Because I remember when we were in the convoy saying, what's with you guys?
How come all your peers have like vacated?
And they said, well, that's just because we're weird.
It's right.
Weird in the best possible way.
And they're here for their kids and their communities and for Canada.
They're not here for money.
They're not here for money.
No, of course.
And just before we move on to more things, because there's so much to talk about, both from Tamara's testimony and the other testimonies that we saw today, let's take a look at the clip where Tamara actually talks a lot with Eva just mentioned, because Eva mentioned a lot of things in our short interview.
But one thing that she mentioned was the relationship that the convoy people have with the city of Ottawa and the mayor, the level of government.
So let's take a look at what Tamara had to say about that.
So the actual goal with respect to Freedom Corp, as well as the protesters that you were representing, their actual goal was not to achieve a meeting with the mayor, but it was to deal with this in a peaceful manner.
Can you elaborate on that?
Yes, well, that was obviously our goal.
And again, to get the trucks off the residential streets.
We were hoping to find a way that the trucks that did have to move their vehicles out of the city would be able to come back in and continue the protest.
And again, we felt it was a step in the right direction.
And meeting with the mayor was not one of my goals.
But I thought, again, it was a way to open some dialogue with somebody in a position of authority.
I think the reason why it wasn't one of her goals or one of your goals as a matter of fact is because you were here to process federal governments vaccine.
They've had nothing to do with the municipal level.
But did you guys have hope of being able to meet with the mayor?
i might be the wrong guy to ask that question um it was it wasn't my hope or my it wasn't even my interest yeah to meet with the mayor because i didn't see him as being of any value to our cause
I wanted to, me personally, I wanted to meet with a senior police officer because I felt that I would have had a better chance of developing a relationship and a rapport with the people that we would be daily interacting with, whereas the mayor was going to be sort of out there on the periphery and you wouldn't be able to trust him.
And you wouldn't really, and by law, the politicians cannot direct police operations.
So it was my goal was, and many of us, we had many discussions, was to always take the pressure off of the residents.
And then we thought that if we take the pressure off the residents, they'll stop calling the politicians.
The politicians will stop harassing the police chief.
But you and I have been on doing these shows for what we're on.
Three years.
Yeah, three years.
Two years, not three years.
Three weeks.
Three years.
Well, longer.
Keith Wilson said, it's grandma's day today.
I said, really?
He goes, it just feels that way.
Three years.
Three weeks.
We've been doing this for three years.
And in those three years that we've been doing this show together, you being my co-host, we were talking about the fact every day that nobody wanted to talk to us.
Nobody wanted to talk to us.
were trying to get the meetings with the right people we're always trying to send the right uh you know be safe responsible send that message clearly to the police and and the highest ranking person we ever dealt with that i dealt with was on the police side was two sergeants right and we got two meetings with the the city manager that's as far as we ever actually got like tamara never met the mayor There was an intermediary between Tamara and the mayor.
So they didn't even respect us enough to send their mayor.
So I just felt like it was a colossal waste of time to focus on him.
I thought, let's focus on the police.
And that'll be the good interface between us.
And we can work with the police, make it safe, responsible, consolidate all the vehicles onto Wellington.
And that puts pressure on the federal government because the federal government was the only group in this city that had the power to end the mandates.
Wasting our time with the mayor was just wasting our time with the mayor.
Well, exactly.
There was an amount of eminency that was desired, right?
In order to get the attention for the right people.
There was a lot of politicians talking at you, talking at the movement.
And about us.
Exactly.
So what good did that do, right?
It's like hearsay.
All you're going to do is just gossip and gossip.
And the misinformation that was spread didn't help anybody.
That's been revealed, not to anyone from the OPS, the OPP, nobody on the ground, not the convoyers.
So why was it done?
I don't think anyone was looking to deal or to actually initiate talking to anybody.
Well, why was it done?
I think it's pretty clear the reason why it's done.
Without saying, pretty obvious.
And, you know, the prime minister was, he hid from us, which is weird because we expected, my expectation was because of two other protests in Canadian history, he had sent an envoy to talk to other protests.
He'd also taken a knee at BLM.
He had also gone to London, Ontario when that young disturbed man drove over that family, killing four people during a lockdown, I believe, or at least the height of the masks, and closed down an entire street.
Like he, he's very selective on where and when the virus actually was a threat to public safety.
If it was for political gain, the virus was something we could mitigate.
But for everyday Canadians, forget it, right?
So there was, I was getting phone calls to deal with the city, and I was like, it's a waste of time.
Our objective is to get the meeting with the prime minister.
And we thought, we naively thought he would at least send some sort of an envoy.
And he just hid from us like a coward and not like a leader who actually wanted to hear the concerns of his own citizens.
Because deep down, I'm pretty sure he understands that he's been the most divisive figure in this country.
Yeah.
And I think, yeah, no, for sure.
And I think, you know, well, first of all, the convoy was about federally regulated COVID-19 mandates.
That's what it was about at the end of the day.
And I think there's one person who we can talk about in terms of years.
It's Justin Trude, who's been hiding for seven years, who has been refusing to answer a single question for seven years.
So, yeah, I think right now would be the right time for a break after we either have been talking for three years.
Let's go back.
We'll see you guys in three years after this short break.
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All right, second testimony of the day.
Chris Deering's Testimony00:05:57
So there was a little bit of drama before that second testimony because you saw the OPS, the Auto Coalition, the OPP all objecting to having some of the evidence show some of the videos shown, even the panel appearing on the stand.
What did you make of the testimony of Chris Deering and Maggie?
Maggie Bauer.
Yeah.
Chris Deering has become a friend of mine since the convoy.
So, you know, I've heard the story about not only his experience in Afghanistan when three of his team got killed in that lav three because they hit an IED and his lava went 100 feet in the air, killed three of them instantly, flipped over, the turret fell out of the vehicle.
Chris fell out of the vehicle, and it's a miracle it didn't fall on top of Chris.
But he had fractured his pelvis, bones in his face, his legs, everything.
Like he's severely, and he's got a traumatic brain injury.
And, you know, there's that aspect to it.
But when, and I've heard the story directly from Chris before about the arrest and what they've done, and I've seen the video, but I felt today that listening to that, that testimony when he was up there on the stand, I really personally struggled with it.
It took me everything I had not to walk out of the room.
Yeah.
And I know Maggie's story as well.
And it's both disturbing.
But what I found really, really offensive was the OPS, how hard, how vigorously they tried to block the victim testimony that we had versus the two individuals on the first day of the testimony that they are citizens, right?
So they want to put their witnesses out there, but they really tried hard to block our witnesses because they knew that it was going to be very damning for them.
And so that lawyer tried very, very hard.
And I knew it was going to roll our way when the commission lawyers actually supported our motion to have it done.
That's when I knew that the judge was going to was going to allow it to go forward because their job is to find the truth.
And Chris and Maggie were a very important eyewitness testimony to the truth of what happened on those last two days.
So I think the judge realized you have to show the full scope, not just people that are claiming PTSD from phantom honking in microaggressions.
I was just going to say, my microaggressions versus people that were literally beaten, injured veterans that were wearing their medals, beaten, thrown to the ground, denied pain medication for their chronic illness, dropped off out in the country.
And a mother who was there protesting, giving copies of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to people that put a gun to her head.
Right.
This is the impact statements that were this, the city.
Uh, you know, Paul Champ and his lawyer plus the ops, really wanted to conceal from the public.
They wanted to conceal that truth and it was grotesque and it's shameful.
And I hope that those lawyers go home and have a good stiff drink uh, and and reflect on what they tried to to hide from the public today.
Yeah, or a really good long hard.
Look in the mirror.
In the mirror yeah, absolutely.
I was holding my breath when um, commissioner Rouleau, it was going to be his uh, he was going to either go for it or or it was going to be dismissed.
And I, I was literally on the edge of my seat in that media room because I was like this, if there is a line we're going to see right now, if there is a divide and if he sways to to one side, that the lawyer uh, his first name is John, he's the lawyer that cross-examined me for the commission.
Is that right?
Yeah, I think so.
He's the lawyer who cross-examined me for the commission when I went up.
Yeah um, I am absolutely impressed with him.
And, and all of the commission lawyers were handpicked.
I was told by justice Roulot to to do the role that they're doing, and I was, I have been absolutely impressed with him.
Yeah, and and I started to really pay attention to his line of questioning about a week ago and honestly, I think I might have even been critical of justice Roulaux.
You know I, I bought into the rumors he was a liberal and I I might have even tweeted about it, and I regret that.
I regret that because i've seen nothing but professionalism from justice Rouleau and that team of commission lawyers.
They are solely focused on the truth and that is what they're pursuing and I I, I bought into what they're doing and i'm very, very impressed.
I'm very proud of what they're doing, and they're not even my lawyers, but i'm very proud of the work that they are doing.
Yeah, to pursue the truth because, as far as i'm concerned, they are the Canadian public's lawyer right now.
No, i'm doing a great job.
Yeah, I fully agree.
I've seen nothing but professionalism from justice, Justice Rules and well, judge Rulo, commissioner Rulo.
Yeah and no.
Professionalism doesn't mean that you're fully non-partisan.
Professional professionalism doesn't mean that you have no political bias.
Professionalism means that you're able to put your bias aside and actually do the job that you're there to do.
That's what professionalism is is and I understand the people that have that, because it's true, in the past years we've seen liberals, people that tend to be more on the liberal party side show no professionalism.
So I guess that's why people, that's why people were expecting justice rules to be the exact same way, but I don't think that's what he's shown us since the beginning of the commission.
Veterans Asking More00:06:40
And since we're talking about Chris Deering's testimony, let's Let's take a look at some of what he had to say today.
I used to come and I gave myself to the police.
And as the police took me down, again, he knew he needed me in my side, kicked me in my back.
I was laying down.
I was in the fetal position on my back.
He kicked me in my ankle, my foot.
As I was laying down, I had my hands completely up.
I'm saying, I'm very peaceful.
I'm peaceful.
I'm not resisting.
I was then punched four or five times in my head.
I had a knee on my back to keep myself down.
I was on the ground for one and a half to two minutes.
My hands were zip-tied.
The officers slowly picked me up, and then we slowly proceeded to the processing line.
We got to the processing line.
The day was minus 20.
I had no gloves on.
At the beginning of the processing line, we were standing there, and I had asked, so, and sorry, the duration of the processing line was one and a half to two hours.
So I was standing there in the cold for two hours.
I asked the policeman who was on both sides of me, I said, Do you mind?
You know my conditions.
Is it okay if I sit or kneel because I'm in chronic pain?
It was obvious.
My face was flush and I cried multiple times.
And I don't cry ever.
It was the worst pain I had felt since I'd been blown up.
The fact that I couldn't sit or stand was to me cruel and unusual punishment.
We would go 15, 20 minutes without even moving.
I also asked if I could have my medication in which I had my prescription and my medication on my person so that if I needed it, I could ask.
I asked and I was denied my medication to comfort my duress.
This is a testimony of a man who is willing to die for our country.
This is a testimony of a man who is willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good of the people of Canada.
And this is how those veterans are treated in Justin Trudeau's candle.
You know, I remember before Justin Trudeau became prime minister, maybe after he was elected before his second election, he had a campaign event where he went in a gym and there was a guy who stood up and said, Why aren't you doing more for the veterans?
And he said, well, that's not our fault.
That's not our fault.
They're asking for too much.
It's the conservative, it's the conservative party.
It's Stephen Harper that did to the veterans what we're seeing happen to them.
And this is how he treats veterans nowadays.
And that's quite a famous clip.
And that really, I have to admit, that is incredibly frustrating to the veterans and the military community, that clip.
And, you know, when you say to a veteran that a veteran is asking more than we're willing to give, when, and we talked about this the other night, we talked about unlimited liability.
So from a soldier, I'm actually going to sign a contract that is called unlimited liability.
It means I am willing, if justified, and it's a legal order, to risk my life and possibly give my life legally, if ordered to my certain death.
And when Justin Trudeau said, you now are asking more than I'm willing to give, and we're talking about a soldier's life versus dollars and help.
And, you know, we see what's happening to Chris.
And Chris wasn't the only veteran, by the way.
Jeff Averley was also one of the veterans from Afghanistan, did two tours, was also beaten and arrested by police.
There were several.
And if you hear Chris's testimony, they all linked arms just to make a human chain and they were talking to the police.
And all those veterans were taken to the ground and arrested and physically harmed.
Well, I think they're veterans or nuts, Harris, and I believe that we have the clip of the veteran.
And even though it's not directly related to what, to the emergency document quarry, I'd like to take a look at that clip from Justin Trudeau being questioned by this man about why people feel so much better.
If you see a star on the medals, that's a campaign star.
It's a combat veteran.
Yeah, let's take a look at that clip for a second.
I was prepared to be killed in action.
What I wasn't prepared for, Mr. Prime Minister, is Canada turning its back on me.
So which veteran was it that you were talking about?
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for your passion and your strength and being here today to share this justifiable frustration and anger with me and with all of us here.
Thank you for having the courage to stand here and thank you for listening to my answer.
On a couple of elements you brought up.
First of all, why are we still fighting against certain veterans groups in court?
Because they are asking for more than we are able to give right now.
They are asking for more than what.
Well, no, hang on.
You're asking for honest answers.
The old Veterans Charter involved lump sum payments and very little in the way of services.
We have significantly invested in services, rehabilitation, support, investments in training, in support for caregivers and families that have gone a long way towards improving the quality of life and outcomes for veterans.
And we cannot return to the amount of money that was given before without accounting for the money invested in services for veterans.
And what I know from veterans I've spoken to is nobody wants, after having served their country with valor and honor and sacrifice, to have their government say, here's your check, now don't bother us anymore.
We need to support you through the course of your life with the things that you need, with the things that your family needs for it.
And that is at the heart of the new veterans approach that we have that you will see more details on in the budget coming forward.
Veterans and War Support00:15:21
So I get that.
Now, you also brought up.
No, absolutely not.
Because in Justin Trudeau's Canada, instead of providing housing and food and shelter and supplies, he would rather them have the ability to be provided assisted suicide.
And that's what we're seeing right now in Canada.
Well, instead of thanking the veteran for listening to his response, why isn't he taking it for his service?
No, that's the same man who says we're not able to provide you with what you need to live, but I'm going to go get a $6,000 a night hotel in England.
I'm going to get a $12,000 grocery bill.
I'm going to spend so much money on myself and my family all on your back, all on the back of the taxpayer.
Well, and also he's not going to bat an eye to take his private jet to a you know a world climate summit.
Like, what is going on here?
He literally shushed the crowd when they out that outcry.
It gets to me so much.
He opens his mouth.
And I am, that's my microaggression right there, Justin Trudeau.
Yeah, I, you know, I don't want to get too deep into the whole Ukraine thing, but from my perspective, let's not give All of our tax dollars to the Ukraine, if that's really what he's thinking about his own veterans.
Look, I get there's a war going on there.
I understand that.
But did the anchorman tell everyone to get outraged?
Did Facebook tell everyone to get outraged about Sierra Leone, South Sudan, Taiwan, the Congo, Chad, Yemen, Jordan?
Did the anchorman tell everybody to focus in on those?
Do we have Facebook flags that we can all put on our profiles?
But no, we're sending all of our money to Christia Freeland's family in the Ukraine.
And, you know, he's got the nerve to sit there and talk about veterans and support.
And if the budget allows it.
Now, I understand this is predating the war in Ukraine.
But let's put our priorities in order.
Okay.
Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
We don't actually have a legal obligation to be involved in that particular war.
But that's the one that they've chosen.
And that's the one that the media has chosen to be involved in.
And, you know, we have far too many financial problems in our own country right now to be interfering in that kind of a thing.
And I've deliberately stayed away from the vast majority of the issues around that war because, like I said, we're not paying attention to the other wars that are going around in the rest of the world.
But it seems to me that our economy is in deep trouble because apparently budgets do, you know, they balance themselves.
Well, that's the whole philosophy of the liberals.
I'm sorry, Scott.
We only have about 10 or 15 minutes left.
We've been talking for a little while.
It's my fault.
You know, another interesting thing from Chris's testimony, Chris Deering, is the reason it's when he spoke about the reason why he joined the convoy.
You know, he spoke about his brothers in Nova Scotia, his birth figuratively, his birth from the army that he wasn't able to go grieve with and to visit because of Justin Trudeau's vaccine mandates, clip number four.
If you can take a look at that, it's where Chris explains his reason as a veteran for joining the Freedom Convoy.
Let's take a look at that.
And so when you traveled to Ottawa, what did you understand that you were there to protest?
The mandates.
I was there to protest the mandates.
And why was that important to you?
Because for the last two years, personally, as a wounded veteran, I couldn't do anything.
I couldn't take my family to a restaurant.
I couldn't take my kids to gymnastics.
I couldn't grieve my comrades in Nova Scotia because I wasn't allowed to cross the border in my own vehicle by myself to a cemetery where no one was living and lay my flowers for my mental health.
And I was denied that for two years.
So that's unfortunate.
There's Tom Cuygan is a brilliant man and he's a friend of ours.
He's a member of Veterans for Freedom.
And he did a video.
He wrote the script to a video supporting the Dutch farmers and the Dutch veterans.
And in it, there's a line where he says, you know, the veterans can no longer be the tip of the sword, but they can be the shield.
And that's all I could think about when I was listening to Chris's testimony today, because he came to Ottawa to be the shield for the Canadian public.
That was what his heart and his training and his morals and values told him to do, to get here to Ottawa and be the shield with a broken body.
This is the testament of the character that Justin Trudeau, who is characterless, unless we're talking about a cartoon or a sock puppet or whatever you want to call it.
I told you, I'm trying to get the humor back.
I'm looking forward to that.
Yeah, I think I'll stick with it.
This is the character between one man versus the other, but unfortunately, the wrong one has the authority to use force to attack his own people.
Trans the civil liberties of possessors.
Yeah.
And every day I'm saddened by the fact that the vast majority of Canadians have been asleep for this long.
It's incredible to me.
how people still to this day, I was getting people attacking me on Twitter today for Chris's testimony.
Wow.
This is what we've we've this is the leadership that has been provided by Justin Trudeau.
This is why he is absolutely unfit to be the leader of anything.
I fully agree.
Another interesting testimony.
So we'll get to a testimony of Maggie and then we'll go to Danny Beaufort shortly.
Maggie, and by the way, for our viewers that have been following us since the beginning, since we started doing these live streams, one of the things that Chris, Keith Wilson told us in our first live stream, I believe, or our second one, he told us a story of her grandmother who was standing in front of the line of police, who put a charter, the charter of rights and freedoms in front of the protesters, who was grabbed by the police, beaten up, transported far away from Ottawa, and dropped there.
And I believe from what I've heard today from Maggie's testimony, Maggie is the person Keith was talking about.
That's clip number six.
We can see Maggie describe the exact same situation.
I think she can probably confirm it, but she describes the exact same situation that Keith Wilson, the lawyer for the Freedom Convoy, described on one of our first live streams.
Let's take a look at her testimony as well, which is absolutely heartbreaking, just like Chris Deering's one.
I'll be very brief.
So when after I was behind the police line, it's all on my statement, that's fair.
But I was thrown to the ground and there was a lot of weaponry around.
And I looked up and there was a gun pointed, it appeared to be at my head.
And from there, I was taken outside the city and dropped off.
And again, I was at a towing place where they were towing the trucks.
And there was no shelter.
There was no place to plug in your phone.
There was nothing.
And thankfully, people came and got us.
So.
Do you want to start or should I?
How'd you feel listening?
It's heartbreaking.
Also, because I can't imagine actually testifying and being able to talk about having the barrel of a gun at my head so calmly.
So the fact that she, I just think there's probably such a sense of disassociation to such traumatic things like that that you could see it.
Like that's why I had such a hard time watching them be ripped apart by those lawyers because the enormity of the situations that those peaceful protesters were facing, talking about them or just seeing a couple of clips, in my opinion, does not do it justice.
So it breaks my heart.
Did you hear more of those testimonies that were similar to what Maggie was talking about?
Did you hear more of those stories?
I did.
And, you know, as after the convoy and I was campaigning with the Ontario Party, every time I went to events, I would meet people that participated in the convoy.
And you heard stories like that all the time.
And, you know, it was hard to do that campaign because I heard all of the stories we all did during the campaign.
Right.
And, You know, I'll go off a little bit of a tangent today, but that particular lawyer that tried to discredit both Chris and Maggie today from the OPS.
I was so disgusted listening to his testimony.
So, you know, it's funny because Chris had given that speech during Rolling Thunder and it was publicly televised.
I listened to it on the radio.
I couldn't actually be here for Rolling Thunder.
But he went on, the lawyer went on to suggest that Maggie and Chris were being paid by the Ontario Party to give that testimony because the Ontario Party, without Chris or Maggie knowing about it, did some fundraising to try to cover their costs for their hotels and fuel and parking and stuff like that.
Chris and Maggie had no knowledge of that, but somehow the lawyer was questioning Chris's authenticity and his motives for testifying.
But he could have looked it up online.
And I've learned that the lawyers have seen everything there is to see about us publicly or knew about Chris probably given the speech Rolling Thunder, but try to discredit him in tarnish his character by suggesting that he was here for money.
And same with Maggie, because the Ontario Party quietly, inside their internal email list, tried to raise some funds to pay for their cost to be here.
Because as you heard, Chris's bank accounts and his credit system or credit have all been affected and he couldn't pay for parking the other day.
I don't know if you heard that on the testimony, but I was speaking to Chris.
He actually couldn't pay for parking because his credit card had been dropped down to just over $1,000.
And, you know, all of his credit has been affected.
I don't know about Maggie.
I know mine took a hit.
I know everybody that was on the list, this list of 56 people were marked for life in the banking system.
Credit scores diminished.
I know mine dropped significantly.
And none of us have been charged yet.
And this is what frustrates me because this is the kind of Canada that anybody who supports Justin Trudeau, this is what they're begging for.
They're begging for their abuser to continuously abuse them because they refuse to acknowledge that 6 million plus Canadians sent us to Ottawa to deliver a message that they themselves don't want to hear.
And once again, that's how Justin Trudeau treats his veterans and Justin Trudeau's Canada.
Freeze their bank accounts.
You heard their credit score.
No due process.
It's absolutely unbelievable.
All right.
I see how we're getting a little bit over time.
We'll take a look at Danny Bolford, one of Danny Bolford's part of his testimony.
Then we'll read some of your chats.
So if you have something that you want to tell us, if you have a message that you want us to discuss on air today, you can always do so once again at Rumble or Odyssey.
And then we'll do our best to take a look at it live on air.
All right, let's take a look at part of Danny's testimony today.
So in the initial, I would say close to initial two weeks, I thought that Chief Slowly was pretty fair in his remarks regarding the convoy, you know, understanding his position as the chief of police of the city of Ottawa.
But I thought that he was pretty unbiased.
And then after the, I think it was a council meeting or a police services board meeting, there was a lot of rhetoric regarding the Freedom Convoy protesters, allegations of being extremists, insurrectionists.
I believe even the term domestic terrorism may have been thrown around.
And I noticed at that time, that was it also coincided with a lot of that same rhetoric from the legacy media.
And, you know, and we'd already heard and seen the prime minister using similar language.
And so I felt that that was definitely heightening the anxiety of the overall crowd.
The fear that they were going to be labeled such and dealt with as such by law enforcement because they were under so much pressure from the different levels of government.
Yeah.
On mainstream media, I think we keep hearing stuff on mainstream media.
Even former police chief Peter Soli spoke about how media negatively affected his police officer.
What are your thoughts on Bulford's testimony?
I know she stayed at the commission a little bit more than me.
So what are your general impression, your general thoughts on Danny Bulford's testimony?
He was super precise.
He said just enough.
He didn't get too far into like his personal feelings on any of the matters.
He kept it short, but he kept it sweet.
And that is perfect.
I think that was one of the best testimonies that I've seen thus far.
Not that I have too much of a rating scale.
They're all very important for different reasons.
But particularly with Danny, I really liked his remark again about the mainstream media when he said, you referred to a conversation that he had with a young officer just prior to the arrival of the convoy in Ottawa, where the young police officer admitted that they were indeed not expecting the enormity of the convoy.
And he retorts with something along the lines of, well, you shouldn't be watching the CBC for your intelligence.
And I just thought, yeah, that's absolutely perfect because I know I myself and other people not just documented it, but were very eager to put online the enormity of the convoy.
I was in shock.
I was in shock even in Ottawa walking down the streets because there's no way to measure it.
But the very fact that you couldn't measure it should have said enough.
I think in a certain way Bilford's testimony also echoed the testimony given by Chris prior to him.
Vicious Attacks and Targeted Fear00:02:19
The motives are very similar.
You guys all worked in a certain way to save your country.
I know that Danny Bilford wasn't in the army per se, but he was a sniper with the RCMP.
You're a veteran.
Chris is a veteran.
You all worked to serve your country.
And then you see what that led to.
Well, there's a couple of important things that Danny said in that little clip there.
And the important word that he used was anxiety.
And he mentions the fact that the city was conducting a psychological operation on the truckers because there was things that they did to deliberately heighten the anxiety amongst the truckers, especially the families.
And they were going around making statements that they were going to euthanize the dogs in the vehicles if they didn't leave.
And they were going to get children's services involved and remove the children from their families in the trucks.
And so they were constantly targeting us with a lot of fear-inducing rhetoric to drive up the anxiety, to try to get people to leave.
So in a sense, you know, there was a deliberate conscious effort to terrorize the truckers.
Psychologically induce fear is a form of terrorism.
And this is what they deliberately engaged in with the assistance of the media.
And to go back even further, we heard testimony earlier where there was the government was happy that the media was going after the convoy as it was rolling here.
And then we saw that the government between somebody named Alex, who was public safety for Mendocino, and somebody in the PMO's office saying, We don't want to put too much pressure on them yet because they'll drive out the crazies.
Meaning, we'll get rid of our controversial people ourselves, and then they won't have anything to attack.
They won't have any, they won't be able to form a very big negative narrative against us to demonize us again in the media.
And if you listen to the testimony of every single person this week, every single person mentioned the vicious attacks from the legacy media against us.
Every single one.
I did.
You heard Jeremy did today.
Vicious Attacks on Alternative Voices00:05:53
Everybody on our side was talking about the vicious attacks by the media, and it was sponsored by the government.
In fact, even the police hired a consulting company, a media company.
Is it Horizons?
No, it's a good idea.
Yeah, a company, right?
To do this kind of stuff.
And then the government is just there, they've got CBC on their payable.
So, you know, we remember being in meetings talking about using alternative media and social media as a counter.
So this is why, like, when I walked by the media the other day, I said, you guys have been lying for three years and probably been 30 years based on my tear in the space time continuum for three years.
You guys have been lying.
I'm not going to talk to you.
What's the point?
Yeah.
And I gave them the shortest soundbite I could because I knew that they would just took whatever I said and chop it up and make it into something vicious.
Yeah.
No, I'm saying I don't disagree with what you're saying at all.
Yeah, I think it's extremely hard to have an independent, unbiased media.
Well, it's impossible to have an independent media when you're receiving subsidies or when you're being fully funded by the.
How can you give a fair share to alternative voices, like a Freedom Conflict, to alternative people when you're getting paid by just?
In truth, it's impossible to do.
That's why alternative media is so important.
All right, we're already past seven.
It's almost seven or ten uh seven ten, sorry.
Let's take a look at some of the chats that we have that we that we received tonight.
All right, the first one, Shona Mari G83.
Thank you for fighting the good fight.
Much love and respect all the rebels, Tom and everyone involved.
You feel like a family to so many of us.
Hashtag, Trudo Musco.
Be careful, your bank account is going to be frozen if you use that half.
Thank you so much for your general generous thank you 50 tonight.
It's truly appreciated.
Um yeah, you come on the show every time.
You're almost a rebel.
But we saw today um, we saw a quick, uh short, short video of Ebba Chipyuk.
I think that she wants to be a rebel news contributor.
She saw my microphone trying to sell my job.
Oh well hey, maybe there's room at the Democracy FUND or something.
I don't know.
Ebba's definitely a great job, all right, do we have any other other chats from tonight?
Oh, another one from Shona.
While you're generous uh Shona, Mari G 83.
There's nothing that brings about a gag reflux for me more than the slight sound or absolute disgrace of a prime minister.
He is a disgrace.
That it's mutual.
It's mutual.
Just so you know, yeah, definitely.
I'm not going to lie.
And I don't like to use the phrase trigger, but I'm not going to lie.
It really does physically affect me when I hear his voice.
And I don't say that in a mean way.
Yeah.
I say that in a truthful way.
And I think I'm a good judge of people with leadership skills.
I mean, I spent my whole life in the military assessing leadership.
He's not a leader.
No, 100%.
He's not a leader.
He is an embarrassment to Canada.
He is an embarrassment to us when he goes overseas and represents Canada.
He doesn't just represent the Liberal Party of Canada.
He represents all the Canadians.
And I feel embarrassed to have him as a leader, as a leader of our country.
Do you have any other chats from tonight?
All right.
Well, it was great seeing all of you.
All of you guys know it was great having you again, Tom.
We didn't get the chance to cover everything that went on today because, well, we went a few tangents throughout the nightfall.
Yeah, exactly.
There's so much to cover.
I know Jeremy McKenzie was also one of those who testified at the commission in front of the commission today.
He shaved his beard as well.
I didn't recognize him when I entered the group.
So that's if you want to see everything that went on at the commission today.
You can always wait for some of our recap videos.
But also, we live through the whole commission every single day on Rebel News Canada's YouTube channel.
So if you go on YouTube, you go on the channel called Rebel News Canada.
Every weekday, you will be able to see everything that is going on during the Trucker Commission.
And I think for guests or sorry, witnesses, I've heard a rumor that they're going to summon the vice president of Diagalon, Philip, the coke addicted time traveling goat, the goat.
Sorry, satanic goat.
Satanic goat.
He's going to be summons to testify next week.
But since it's not our week, he can time travel.
So we might see him again.
That's right.
Yeah.
As he testified today, if you want to see his testimony alongside a testimony of Maggie, of Chris, Chris, of Tamara Leesh.
Tamara Lee, she was finished testifying today.
Now she won't be able to talk to the media for the next few months before her trial actually happens in 2023.
If you want to see everything that happened to you, you can go on Rebel News Canada and you'll be able to see our daily live stream where we stream the whole procedures of the commission.
Also, once again, a quick reminder on November 19th and November 25th, we have the Rebel News Canada, Rebel News Live event.
Sorry, one in Calgary.
The Calgary one is on November 25th, and the Toronto one is on November 19th.
If you come, you will be able to see guests, such as Tamara Leash, who will be there to speak.
Derek Felderbrand, Paul Mender Singh, and a bunch of other guests.
If you want to see everything about that, if you want to learn more about our Rebel News Live events, you can go to rebelnewslive.com.
There, you'll be able to buy the tickets as well.
And finally, I just want to do another quick reminder that I'm wearing a tight today and you're not looking for one.
That's a really nice shirt.
That was my favorite shirt.
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This is a nice shirt.
Thank you so much, everyone, for joining us.
I know it was a long week.
Thank you for sitting through an hour and 15 minutes of Tom, myself, and Celine talking about the commission.
And I hope that you all have a great evening.
Well, I would go back partially to my concern about a lone wolf or small cell that could potentially try and leverage the large crowd for their own agenda.
But I also concerns because I've I've done overwatch at a number of protests and counter protests in Ottawa and I've seen with my own eyes how aggressive groups related to the Anti-FA movement can be when they are much larger in numbers than the group that they're counter protesting against, and how aggressive they can be overrunning the police line as well.
So when you were referring to instigators, who were you referring to?