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Oct. 27, 2022 - Rebel News
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ANDREW CHAPADOS | Into the Metaverse with Jason Miller | Andrew Says 96

Andrew Chapados critiques Trent University’s BIPOC Freedom Lounge, questioning its exclusivity amid visible LGBT symbols and broad accessibility, while Jason Miller highlights Getter’s global dominance—51% U.S., 49% international users—hosting a UK vs. U.S. World Cup party (Nov 25) with Matt Leissier, Nigel Farage, and Rebel News’ Avi Yemini driving influence in Australia. Chapados ties Zuckerberg’s metaverse push to declining Facebook relevance and election interference, warning of TikTok’s Chinese surveillance risks and predicting a Republican midterm sweep, citing crime surges in Democrat-run cities like New York and Chicago as pivotal. The shift to local activism—school boards, mayoral races—aims to dismantle progressive policies before broader political consequences unfold, blending tech growth with grassroots resistance. [Automatically generated summary]

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Finding The People Color Lounge 00:07:18
Hey guys, welcome back to another Andrew Says.
I'm here with TVs Lincoln J back at Trent University.
And the goal here today, Lincoln, is to find the people of color lounge.
I don't even like saying it, but it is a BIPOC lounge for decolonization, de-radicalization, every D thing you can think about.
And we're going to find out if we can get in, Lincoln J. Let's go.
We're back undercover, as you can see.
Lincoln's got his backpack.
I've got Juice World on, no mic flag.
We're in the belly of the beast here, Lincoln.
We can't exactly just go in guns blazing because we could be kicked out anytime from campus.
Now, last time we saw some shirtless bros, some soccer players, you name it.
But this time, school's in full effect, and we've got to be careful if we want to get in and be accepted into the lounge.
I just want everyone to know the stuff I do for Rebel News Plus.
I'm about to walk up this ramp service vehicle only ramp.
There's no stopping me, Lincoln.
I'm wild.
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Lincoln seems to think this might be the lounge.
I'm not sure this might be, this could be anything.
This could be a dungeon.
This could be, you know, the campus blank center.
It's locked.
We're going to die down here.
What exact?
Can we ask you a question?
No, no.
No?
Okay, where are you going?
Come back.
Where are you going?
Personally, Lincoln, I'm glad that we've got to a point in society where LGBT graffiti is now the norm.
Without this, how do we know how queer Trent really is?
Come on, honestly.
All right, Lincoln.
We infiltrated the CCSA, TSCA Freedom Lounge.
What appears to be white passing people in there.
I think that's against the rules.
But nobody had any problems with us being there.
No security at the door or anything.
As you can see, if you want to look that way, we are in the belly of the beast.
That way.
As you can see, we've instituted the all-gender bathroom here.
I've got my diversity, inclusivity, and equity literature.
I'm going to go through that now.
BIPOC is a newer term.
Black Indigenous people of color.
Black and Indigenous people are emphasized in this acronym to reflect the disproportionate oppression both black and indigenous communities experience in North America.
So we've gone beyond just Canada here.
Everything on this campus is named after Indigenous people, so I'm not really feeling it.
But Lincoln, I'm a little disappointed at the BIPOC Freedom Lounge.
You create a lounge specifically for people of color, but there's no enforcement of it at all.
So why even have it?
Why even call it that?
There's a rainbow on the door.
There's trans and some sort of weird flag over there.
I have no idea, Lincoln.
We're asking people about the Freedom Lounge.
Have you heard of it?
No.
No, it's a center for people of color and Indigenous people.
I just want to get words on how you guys feel about that.
If it's exclusionary, if it's the right thing to do.
You have any opinion on that?
Sorry.
I don't know.
If I see my turn off.
Can I see that?
Yeah, you can.
i mean like i'm a white guy right so how am i i'm not equipped to tell you if they people of color feel like they need that space if they They do feel like it, then power to them.
Would you be in favor of like, a white people space, or why is that?
Because that sounds close to white supremacy, but let's say it's a black people space?
Is that okay then?
Yeah, I mean again, i'm probably not the person to answer these questions no, you are the person.
You seem very smart, very well spoken, but I mean like just thought, like first thought that comes to my mind like Black people and people of color deal with systemic racism on a daily basis, versus white people not having to deal with that because systems that we operate within serve white people and have historically.
Does that happen on this campus that would necessitate it being in the school buildings though?
Would you say?
I mean, well, yeah, like this is a place for higher education.
So this is usually the type of place that's going to lead the way in terms of being progressive.
And yeah, I mean, ultimately, I'm like mainly in autonomy and don't come around the whole campus very often.
So I don't know for sure, but.
Did you have any opinion on this?
I don't want to talk about it.
We were just there.
It's the lounge for BIPOC.
I don't know if you know what that stands for.
Black Indigenous People of Color.
So it's supposed to be basically a lounge for everybody who's not white.
Do you have any opinion on that?
Do you think it's necessary, discriminatory?
How do you feel about that?
I think it feels all right to me.
I mean, Trent's basically an all-racial, an all-racial school.
And since I've been here, there hasn't been any form of racism towards anybody of color here.
So I think having a lounge like that would be benefit everybody of color.
Would you say that it would be okay then if a bunch of you know like German students or English students said we want a white people lounge?
Would that be okay?
It doesn't really matter to me.
So you're okay with anybody having any lounge they want basically?
Yeah, basically.
I mean, I mean, if we're for free to have our own lounge, I mean, why can't anyone like Germans or anyone like that have their own lounge?
Very cool.
Thanks, man.
Now, Lincoln, if I was to predict you that white kids would have a problem with white people having a lounge and say everything is systemic racism, and then what I assume, I don't want to assume too hardly there, but I think that guy was native.
I have a lot of native friends.
And he had no problem with anybody having their own lounge.
So I think that's something I should have just predicted at the outset.
Pretty obvious in 2022, especially on a college campus.
We have to be progressive, Lincoln.
We have to be.
Wrapping up here at Trent University again, we've got our diversity, inclusion, and equity folder.
We've learned so much about the Freedom Lounge.
Mostly that nobody cares if you go in there.
There are a bunch of white girls in there, obviously.
And the people we asked mostly didn't know about it at all.
It's tucked away there in the student services building.
Nobody really cares that it's there.
But the white people we did speak to, of course, equity, inclusion, you know, the whole, we are systemically racist whole bit.
And then the non-white people we speak to, and it's basically like, eh, I don't care.
It's good, I guess.
Other people could have one.
So I think you can sort of see the 2022 problem in play here at Trent University.
But I digress.
Matt On Sports & Cherry 00:05:18
We'll see you next time.
Welcome back to another special episode of Andrew Says.
They're all special, aren't they?
Surprise popping guest, Jason.
How are you?
Andrew, good to be with you here in the mothership.
Yes.
Finally, what brings you to Canada?
So I had some investor meetings this morning.
And then, I mean, you can't come to Toronto and not call the folks at Rebel News.
So, well, either that or go to a Raptor skin, but Raptors not playing on this trip.
So, quick trip, just do some investor talks and then want to come chat with you guys.
Your powerhouses on Getter, not just for Canada, but also for Australia.
Well, as I've told you from the beginning when you started Getter, it's the just the mechanics of it are so much better than the other platforms.
I always say how much faster it loads than Twitter, has the multiple things you can load onto your posts.
So, just from that perspective, I think you guys are light years ahead.
The first thing I wanted to ask you about, I've noticed you've been tweeting a lot of sports about sports, sorry, posting a lot about sports on your way to Canada, Don Cherry, and stuff.
I haven't talked to you since you guys had the boxing event live on Getter.
You had the exclusive behind-the-scenes stuff.
How did that go?
Tell me how that came about, and why did you decide you guys wanted to get into sports like this?
Well, good question.
I mean, part of it is the platform becomes an extension of sometimes of my personality.
I'm a sports junkie, and everyone on the team is a sports junkie.
And this is what I think is great commonality, brings people together.
It also gives us content beyond politics to talk about.
And I think as we start becoming something where folks, or it's not just if you're on the left or if you're on the right or you're in the center, but even as people who say, you know what, I don't necessarily get motivated by politics every day, but I want that content.
I want people talking about other things in life.
Pop culture is really a big thing that people want to talk about.
So, sports, as you look to what we've started to build out in the UK, we have Matt Letissier on the platform.
He was voted the greatest British footballer in history, played for Southampton.
And in fact, on November 25th, we're actually hosting a UK versus U.S. World Cup watching party in London.
We rented out an entire bar, and you get in for free with a Getter account on your phone.
We're also doing that week our first ever Getter comedy night that we're doing with the Comedy Unleashed Folks, which will be cool.
You get in for free with a Getter account.
We're going to have additional sports things coming up, but we found that between MMA and boxing, there's a huge synergy.
Folks in those two sports seem to be very outspoken.
Take a Jorge Masvedal, pretty outspoken, I think you could say.
But we found with those two communities in particular, people like to voice their opinions.
That's what we want with Getter.
We want the hot takes.
Well, I completely agree.
Before I got into news and politics, I did do podcasting about MMA, and you find that they don't pull any punches.
That's a terrible pun.
Sorry, Lincoln.
Producer Lincoln, by the way.
Their opinions are very much in line with people who are down to earth and not even necessarily calling themselves like right-wing or conservatives, just honest.
I mean, they punch people in the face for a living.
They don't really have time for bullshit.
And a lot of these guys, even when they don't say it publicly, I've got a lot of people, not a lot.
I mean, I'm not talking to many of the champions, but privately, a lot of them do agree.
And you see people like Jorge Masvedal.
I'm friends with a UFC fighter named TJ Laramie, who had to train in secret when the lockdowns were happening here.
And then they go down to Vegas and they're allowed to train properly.
But there is a huge crossover.
I mean, Gina Crono is another one.
I remember Ronda Rousey talking about how stupid some of the things were about fighter pay between men and women.
So it's really interesting.
So this soccer event, did you say Matt Letissia is going to be at that?
Or are you guys just hosting a big party?
Yeah, so he'll be there.
So we're doing it again in London.
We'll put it out there so anyone in London, or I guess internationally, if you wanted to fly in for it, that more power to you as long as you have a Getter account on your phone.
But Matt will be doing some commentary.
Of course, he was a Sky Sports presenter for football previously.
He'll be doing some commentary before the match and then at halftime.
We'll have all sorts of TVs that are set up all over the place.
So he'll be there.
He'll be hosting it.
But it'll be other fun folks there too.
For example, Nigel Farage will be there.
We'll have Wright said Fred, Richard and Fred, which if you had told me, I'm 47.
If you had told me back when I'm Too Sexy came out some 30 years ago that I'd be hanging out with the guys who sang I'm too sexy, I would say, you're nuts.
They're active on the platform.
They're great.
I mean, these guys, Richard and Fred, they're awesome.
I haven't yet asked them if they can maybe do a little acoustic I'm too sexy at halftime.
Maybe it might be mixing audiences, but we'll give it a shot.
No, that's great.
And Canada, first time in the World Cup since I think like 88.
So I'm excited for that.
So we'll definitely check it out.
I saw you and might have just been a reply to one of your posts, but somebody's asking you about Don Cherry.
Now, Don Cherry, obviously, is this huge figure from here.
Cancel culture attacked him.
Their ratings went way down.
I don't think anybody watches.
Lincoln, do you watch Hockey Night in Canada anymore?
Yeah, growing up, Don Cherry was the man.
Everybody insulted him.
Zuckerberg's Nerd Pretend Universe 00:12:48
Yeah, and now he's sort of been like pushed into this.
You must apologize, but we're still going to fire you, Corner.
I don't think he apologized.
Somebody asked if you would entertain having him on Getter in some facet.
Are you familiar enough with him to make an opinion on that or anything like that?
I know.
I'm a familiar enough just, I mean, I grew up in Seattle, so big hockey community in Seattle.
They just got the kraken.
And obviously with all the, we had a lot of folks from BC that were in Seattle that played hockey.
And so familiar enough with it.
Obviously, I know who Don Cherry is, but I don't have the intro yet, but on my way out, I'm going to snag a copy of Ezra's Rolodex and see if I can't get that started.
Yeah, for sure.
I have David Menzies has interviewed him at his house.
So I'll try to find if there's a way to get there.
Maybe you just show up at his house.
Maybe that's the move.
Yeah, sometimes that's a mixed bag.
Sometimes they're like, hey, let's talk.
And then sometimes they call the police.
So we're going to do it a little bit carefully, especially being a foreigner.
It might be weird showing up at someone's house.
But we'll try it.
I think in Canada, you get more if you're foreign, but that's neither here nor there.
Elon, Kanye, Jason Miller, Trump.
Did you ever imagine a world?
I have two parts to this question.
But first, do you ever imagine a world where you guys are all running social media platforms?
It's getting to the point where people have to start saying to the leftists on Twitter, oh, you guys need to create your own platform now.
Just create your own Twitter.
Could you ever envision this?
And what do you say to the people?
Like, they're going to, it's rumored that thousands of people are going to leave Twitter.
If that's possible, I don't know.
Well, I think Twitter, let's go and kind of unpack this.
What this is a clear reflection of is that people are ticked off at the status quo.
They don't like the way that moderation policies are being implemented.
They don't like the political censorship and the political discrimination, which is really what I think it is.
It's saying one group has free speech rights, but another group does not have free speech rights.
That's really the crux of what it is.
And, you know, the left, I think, has been living a little bit of a charm life since they're in power right now.
They have President Biden.
They have both chambers of the U.S. Congress and also leftists.
I mean, look at Justin Trudeau.
You look at leftists, Olaf Schultz, and Germany all around the world seem to be in control.
So they're not really upset.
None of their friends are being kicked off of social media.
The pendulum is going to swing back, though.
And the pendulum will start to kick off people on the left.
They just don't realize it yet.
But when they do, we're more than happy to have them join Getter and our platform.
But I do think that our free speech is going to become more decentralized as people realize we can't put all the power in the hands of Twitter and Facebook.
Are you glad then you got way out ahead of this and you're doing the sports and you've done vision and everything?
Because it's going to be coming to pass, I think, soon that Parlor and Truth are going to be like, how come we don't have these things?
So are you happy that you guys put that much into the technology right away?
Absolutely, because when we launched, I had two main goals, and this goes to the other point.
Number one, the technology had to be superior.
If you're just saying we want to have a junior varsity knockoff of Twitter, we can get people to visit once, then they'll never come back.
You have to make sure that the tech is there.
But the other thing, too, you have to constantly keep innovating.
Otherwise, people say it's getting stale.
It's getting boring.
That, I think, is one of the keys with Twitter.
Twitter hasn't innovated.
They've done a couple things lately.
They've thrown in spaces and, you know, trying to get into that clubhouse scene a little bit.
But for a platform that's been around 15 years, they've innovated remarkably little, which I think is, that's actually, I'm surprised we haven't heard more on the innovation from Elon Musk.
That would have been something where he would have gotten into.
And you look at the younger users of social media who like the short video format much more, the TikTok, the Instagram reels.
So the first priority when you launch, make sure the technology is superior and that we continue to innovate.
It's not trying to be a competitor to Twitter.
It's trying to be something when we add in the visions, we add in the live streaming, all these other different things to make it interesting.
In fact, one of the cool things we have coming up, I think we launched this in December.
We might hold it till January, essentially a meetup feature.
So where Zuckerberg is trying to push people into some kind of nerd pretend universe of like half people.
Although you saw where he got busted for actually adding legs to his avatar.
Yeah, I noticed that he said that this won't be what it really looks like.
It's weird.
It's weird.
We're actually trying to do things that bring people together so you can opt in and say you want to meet up with other Getter users in your area or maybe you're at a tailgate, maybe you're at a sporting event or a concert, and you want to meet up with other Getter people.
You can actually opt into a situation where you can start meeting up with people individually or in real life.
So the tech has to be big.
But then the second part is it had to be an international platform.
This was one of my big keys that I knew I could have an influence with.
And I think we've done that.
Look, we're at 51% U.S., 49% international.
That's not a slouching matter.
That's pretty good.
Brazil is our number two market with about 15%.
UK is number three at about 10%.
Germany is about 7%.
Canada is about 6%.
So Canada is our fifth largest market.
But also, this comes back to Rebel News.
Australia is our seventh biggest market, where obviously Rebel News has been a powerhouse along with Avi, who's just been doing fantastic work for you guys.
And in fact, to let you know, Rubble is actually Getter's biggest user in Canada, and Avi is Getter's biggest user in Australia.
So you guys have a pretty big voice when it comes to the Getter world, but the technology and their international approach is really the differentiator, in my opinion, for Getter.
Yeah, Avi's influence is crazy in Australia.
He's, I mean, any one of us, somebody will say, hey, Rebel News, great, but Avi has the, they have changed laws based on what has happened to Avi with the protesting when they threw him to the ground.
That was a good time.
But I wanted to ask you, and oh, I was going to say about Zuckerberg, too.
I don't even think he wants to be involved in politics anymore.
He wants, he's so, I don't know if you listen to him on Rogan, but he's so obsessed with VR and augmented reality.
I think if that guy could turn back the clock, he would say no to a lot of the politicians that asked him to be involved in stuff.
Hunter Biden, for example, the FBI stuff there.
Exactly.
Still, fun anecdote about that is Amazon canceled my order of that book.
A little conspiracy for you.
Laptop from Hell ordered, pre-ordered it.
Oh, it was just canceled for you.
Don't worry about it.
Really?
A little good conspiracy there.
Amazon has canceled a lot of things.
Well, I'm in New York with Miranda Devine, so I'll need to get you an autographed copy.
I would appreciate that.
But you know, the Zuckerberg thing.
So here was my initial thought on that.
My initial thought was that he knows that Facebook is failing.
There is no future growth for Facebook.
What is, I think, 2% of people 18 and younger use Facebook, and they said of that universe, 45% will disappear in the next two years.
So basically, it's dead.
That's why they've morphed Instagram in with Facebook and one or two clicks, and all of a sudden you're basically in Instagram Reels, and you're no longer even at Facebook.
So the way they've morphed him in, because he realized that, but is he's gotten into this.
So I thought initially the meta stuff was just a way to distract away from the fact that their current business model isn't sustainable for the long call.
The audience is disappearing.
I tell you, I think he's into this weird transhumanism stuff where you just plug in.
And look, I used to laugh about it, but it's a real deal.
I mean, this whole concept of plugging your brain into some computer and, oh, I'm going to have new friends on the computer, or I'll be able to have certain clothes on the computer I don't have in real life, or I'll have certain cars for my legless torso.
There is this aspect to transhumanism.
I've referred to Zuckerberg as the digital Klaus Schwab.
I think he wants us to just plug into the Matrix, and I think he's a real weirdo.
Well, yeah, because once somebody's, if they're plugged into your platform, then how much more data can you get?
You can get where they're looking at, anything they spend more time at.
It's going to be just play, stay here.
He even mentioned on Rogan, call your friends from inside the metaverse.
Now, why would I just not use a video thing on my phone, though?
Like, so you want me to put something on to look at somebody in a virtual space instead of just doing a video call with them?
A lot of it doesn't make sense.
And that's why I'm saying I think he just wants out of the political game.
He just wants like VR chats.
And Lincoln, you were saying that it's losing tons of money, I think.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I can just tell you from my perspective with my friends, like there's just no interest in personally.
I haven't looked into anything about it.
I just don't care about that world.
And Facebook on its own, like, I think everybody, no offense to older women out there, but I think it's the grandma of social media now.
And that must hurt him.
But enough about the Zuck.
I think he's doing something weird.
You know, there's, yeah, interesting point on that.
After 2016, Zuckerberg and Dorsey really drew the ire of their fellow Silicon Valley elites, saying that because of them, Trump won.
And to an extent, they're kind of right.
I mean, Trump's superpower is that he's able to evade traditional media and go right to voters.
And so it was almost like the, you know, Scooby-Doo at the end, where, you know, if it wasn't for you, pesky kids, we would have won.
It was the same thing with, you know, if it wasn't for you, pesky kids, we would have gotten crippled.
It wasn't for that internet.
That internet's thing.
And so they really got pummeled.
And I think that's why Zuckerberg came back in 2020 and spent all the money on kind of the voter reg and things that's been documented, the hundreds of millions they've spent on that.
But I think even Dorsey, as he's kind of slinked away and kind of ridden off into the sunset and tried to get away from it, I don't think those two ever, I don't think that's ever gotten the full recap of the damage that did to them.
They really got hit hard by their progressive buddies who blamed them for Trump's win.
And I think that probably left them a little bit scarred.
But, you know, Andrew, even aside, though, from Zuck and Dorsey, TikTok, TikTok is a big, scary thing right now.
There's been a lot of attention for it here in Canada, in the U.S., in the U.K., in Australia, where it just was a couple of weeks ago, with President Xi being reelected.
I guess that what we're calling it now?
Maybe.
I don't know what term, do they use the term re-elected?
Do they actually have a formal vote just for show, I guess?
For show, it's the party votes.
But then when we saw some of his other allies who didn't like any more retiring, which is, I thought the Wall Street Journal should have been ashamed of themselves for putting retire in a headline when you don't get retired.
They just decide what point you get sent off to go break rocks with the Uyghurs.
Well, maybe they paid for the ad.
Know a couple of the papers here have done full-blown Chinese tourism ad five pages long.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they were just like, hey, let's publish this thing saying how great we are.
But this is now who ultimately is in charge of TikTok.
ByteDance, which is the parent company, is based in China.
They're a Chinese company.
The basic surveillance laws in China say that you have to open yourself up for surveillance.
We know from BuzzFeed in Bloomberg that you can access Americans' data in China.
So here's the scary thought.
My oldest daughter is 14.
And imagine being able to develop a psychographic profile of anyone right now at a formative age.
Are they going to want to like something, swipe left, swipe right?
You know, be ultimately motivated to share a clip.
Imagine then at 24 when they're at voting age.
We know a lot of people are getting their news from TikTok now.
That algorithm is easily manipulated.
Imagine as people start getting their 30s and 40s, and then TikTok now has 10, 20 years of psychographic analyses of that person.
Think about a future leader, whether it's a member of Congress, whether it's a president, or TikTok will know more about their thinking than even they will.
That is really scary.
Yeah, and they'll know exactly what type of video content somebody's most likely to share.
They'll be able to sort of mold their propaganda into something that somebody says, oh, this isn't anything.
It's something I should be going for.
And if you just think about the things that are pushed now, whether it was black squares or stuff about Amazon fires or take any of this like leftist mainstream narrative that they want to push across what Jamie Kimmel cries about, for example, they'll know exactly how to perfectly manufacture that for sheerability and probably pay influencers to do so.
They do that now.
People have already been coming out saying that they've been paid to post Ukraine stuff.
Scary Propaganda Tactics 00:08:29
Some of the people we've worked with.
I wanted, regarding the elections, though, I wanted to ask you about some of the midterms.
Which one's the most entertaining for you?
One of the ones I wrote down was Oz and Fetterman, just because I think that's geographically close to you.
Anything that's been catching your eye, I mean, Tucker Carlson's been interviewing everyone I think that he wants to win, from what's the guy in Texas?
I'm forgetting all their names now, in Texas to Carrie Lake, to all these people.
What's the most interesting race to you?
You can say Fetterman if you want because I watched this guy and I'm just like, man, come on.
Well, first of all, so it's Dr. Oz versus Dr. Frankenstein.
There is something not right about Fetterman.
And I'm not just, I guess I'm not, maybe I am being ableist.
I don't really care.
But this is the show to do with it.
This is right, exactly.
But that's the thing now.
They're now, his wife's trying to spin it and say, oh, you're being ableist if you criticize him.
Come on.
I mean, first of all, he looks like a big Frankenstein, the bulge protruding out of his neck.
You know, it's like Frankenstein with the bolts coming out of his neck.
The only difference is that I have not yet seen any villagers chase Fetterman through the town with a pitchfork or burning torches.
That might be next.
I mean, he literally is Frankenstein.
Here's the thing about, I've been around a little bit, as I said, about 2020, or excuse me, 2022, is right now Republicans have about a four-point, maybe a five-point generic ballot registration advantage.
In 2010 and in 94, the two other big Republican landslides of my adult life, Republicans trailed on the generic ballot going into Election Day.
So for them to be leading, this means it's going to be a blowout.
And you're going to have people who wake up on election day and say, wait, I won.
You could see, I think Blake Masters wins in Airbnb.
That's what I was thinking of.
Carrie Lake, I think, wins handily.
Adam Blacksalt, I think, beats Cortez Masto in Nevada pretty handily.
JD Vance will be fine.
Ohio, Ted Butt will be fine in North Carolina.
Ron Johnson will be re-elected okay in Wisconsin.
Even though the polling shows it a bit further apart, I still think we could get really, really close in Washington State and Colorado.
I think Don Baldeck in New Hampshire is going to wake up and beat Maggie Hassan on Election Day.
That's one where a lot of people are saying, yeah, maybe he's in range.
Maybe it's creeping.
I think he could be a surprise winner.
I think Herschel Walker wins handily in Georgia.
And then I do think Dr. Oz beats Frankenstein Fetterman in Pennsylvania.
A lot of these, again, a lot of people are going to wake up the day after the election and we're going to be looking saying, how do they win?
The bottom has fallen out for the Democratic Party.
They have no leadership, terrible message.
The economy is going in the wrong direction.
Crime is massively problematic.
And Hispanic Americans are abandoning the Democratic Party in droves.
And it's both the economy and the safety.
I think I was going to ask what you think are the major driving issues here, but I think crime's a huge one.
You can't have a DNC-run city.
And it's taken me so long, I say this all the time, to get to this point where like this is obviously the problem is the leadership.
You can't have a Democrat-run city that isn't, okay, three blocks of the downtown financial sector are wonderful and clean and nice.
And then as soon as you step across, especially in Chicago, when I visited there, as soon as you cross a street, people are throwing stuff and yelling stuff at you.
So these DNC-run cities that have been, you go down the list, St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago, 30, 40, 50 years of Democrat-run, people are finally, I think, starting to see, especially when you get these DAs in, many of them Soros-backed DAs, when they say, oh, you can just get out without bail for pretty much anything.
It was Illinois with the, it's like second-degree murder, kidnapping, this new act that they have where they don't chase down any criminals.
People, I think, are finally starting to notice that, you know, there's direct people who are causing this to happen.
And the other topic, I think, is drag queens and transgenderism in these books and schools.
And you have all these parents going to city councils and school board meetings where they're standing up and creating all these viral videos.
And they're just piling up on top of it.
And then what do you get?
You don't have a guy in the White House who can just, you know, be quick on his feet and be like, well, you know, we're actually doing this, this, and that.
They have to get up in there and lie to this guy.
Now, as much as Jen Saki was terrible and circling back, she wasn't quite as bad as Corrine John Pierre is.
Corrine John Pierre just pretends that the sky isn't blue.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with Joe Biden.
I mean, you're stupid if you think the economy is not doing well.
Although, the only thing I'll say on Corrine, I think she actually believes it.
I hope not.
No, Jen Saki didn't believe it when she was saying it.
Jen's actually, I've gotten to know her a little bit personally over the years.
She's actually pretty smart.
She's pretty pro-business.
She gets it.
A lot of that's lip service.
Corrine's actually crazy.
She actually believes all this stuff.
And it's, I mean, the Kool-Aid, I mean, she has been chugging pictures of this Kool-Aid.
There's nowhere Kool-Aid left for anyone.
She's drank it all.
It's that bad.
But I think, you know, when you were talking a moment ago about some of these issues and you mentioned crime and got a little more detailed, you know, I think that's ultimately even what's going to deliver Lee Zeldon the win for the governor's race in New York.
That's one of my favorites.
Just go.
I'm personal friends with Zeldon.
As someone who used to work for Rudy Giuliani and saw the work that he did to turn around New York City, it has really kind of become, man, I know it's a family-friendly program here, but it's become a shithole.
You walk around New York and it smells like marijuana, the whole place, the homeless, just the rampant crime.
We're just a block off of Central Park on Broadway, and there was a carjacking in front of our office last fall on Broadway, right near Central Park.
I mean, in the middle of the day.
But I think the Democrats, their refusal to go and acknowledge some of these problems.
And then the social engineering stuff just gets weird.
It just gets weird with all the trying to push the ideology.
And, you know, Steve Bannon has really been talking about this precinct strategy going into the midterms.
This is where I think you have a lot of people who say, I'm actually motivated to now run for school board.
I'm motivated to run for mayor, where people are really setting their sights on the local level.
That's also a difference between 2022 and say 2010 or 94.
There it was all those previous elections were much more federal.
This is from the ground up.
You're going to have a lot of people who are going to be like, yep, now I'm in charge.
I'm on a school board.
I'm a mayor.
We're going to get rid of some of these wokest policies.
Yeah, I think it's something that desperately needs to happen here because everything flies under the radar before it's too late, especially in our local school boards.
I want to ask you two things.
Steve Bannon, do you remember there's this documentary out about in 1992, they created this giant biodome ecosystem.
Have you seen this?
And Steve Bannon comes in and buys it at the end, and they act like Steve Bannon must have wanted to cover everything up.
Are you familiar with this documentary?
I am.
I haven't seen the documentary.
I know about Steve's work with it.
And it's funny because some of Steve's family members, I believe, is his brother and I think his niece or niece and nephews or his nephews still live in Arizona.
And so they all kind of went out there to do the biodome project.
He's a little ahead of his time.
Now you see Elon Musk talking about Mars and the moon and different things like that.
And so, you know, Steve was just a couple decades too early.
They cheated right away.
This is before Steve Bannon.
Like, I don't know what the claim is.
They seem to claim that they claim that he wanted to shut it down to hide climate change.
I personally wouldn't lean towards that as a person who watches Netflix documentary with a bit of skepticism.
But a couple weeks in, they just bring in one girl who goes out to have surgery on her finger and brings in a bag of supplies.
I'm like, well, there goes your entire project.
And like, that happens very early in the documentary.
But the other non-political thing I wanted to ask you about is vertical real estate.
And I think I might have asked you about this before because I know you guys have a building in Manhattan and/or rent a rent space in there.
And I've read that you need to purchase vertical real estate.
So what I've read is these big businesses buy vertical real estate around them so that they can be the only building that can build vertically.
Is this a real thing?
Can you explain it in layman's terms?
You know about this?
Yeah, well, I know that, so I'm not a real estate expert.
My wife's a little bit more of a real estate expert than I am.
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She works in the commercial real estate space.
There is a lot with views and obviously what you can see.
Now, as far as just being taller than anything else around you, very few cities where I think that would truly apply.
New York being one.
That wouldn't surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised if the main driver of that is just local government, no way to tax it or to find ways for them to essentially monetize on it.
But the whole aspect of real estate and having certain views, whether we have a central park or the beach in California, something like that, that's been the case.
But I'm not a vertical real estate expert.
I tried.
Link and Jay, do you know anything about this?
No, we can't get them to look this up, I don't think.
Let's go behind the paywall.
I want to talk about Brazil and censorship.
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We will see you there.
You were posting.
Were you in Brazil?
I was most recently in Brazil last month.
I was there September 7th, which was their bicentennial, their 200th anniversary of independence.
Brazil being our second biggest market.
We have President Bolsonaro, as well as his adult sons, Eduardo, Flavio, Carlos, a number of his key deputies, whether it be federal deputy Carol DiToni or Carlos Ambelli, Biaquisis.
So a very large Brazilian community.
But what they have there is their Supreme Court is out of control, led by a gentleman named Alexander DeMorais.
He was the one who detained me a year ago when I was in Brazil.
A whole other story, but they just want to intimidate us and try to scare us away.
But the New York Times wrote a big story over the weekend saying that they've now consolidated it to where Moraes now has singular control over free speech rights in Brazil.
He can unilaterally and singularly decide who gets kicked off any platform.
It's crazy.
In fact, let me tell you an example of how crazy it is.
Saturday night, we get an email at 10.17 p.m., 10.17 p.m. on a Saturday saying that if we didn't ban a certain user, by the way, this user posted one time on Getter.
She posted in April of 2022, just one time basically saying, I'm here on Getter, please follow me.
Has not posted since.
If we didn't ban her from the platform within two hours, we would get a $20,000 U.S. fine, 100,000 reals, like five to one conversion rate.
Can we say who this is?
The name on there, it's like Chris Brazil or Christiani Brazil.
But she's the end of being the daughter of the former federal deputy who had the standoff with the police over the weekend.
If you maybe saw some of that, she hadn't done anything wrong.
It just sounds like her father had some issues with the Supreme Court, but there was nothing she posted that would be worthy of kicking her off.
Certainly nothing that would be worthy of coming to us at 10.17 p.m. on a Saturday night, saying if you don't kick her off within two hours, you're going to get a $20,000 fine.
It's that level of crazy to where they're going through and not just picking winners and losers, but being punitive when it comes through and really looking for excuse to try to de-platform platforms.
Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you about because I saw you posting about this and I know you've had a couple trips to Brazil to promote everything there.
How do you feel that Brazil is?
Is that some place where you think that, you know, this, because they talk about a lot on the news about China trying to get influence in there a lot.
Do you think this is one of those countries that it would be a good idea for the West to partner up with more and sort of connect the cultures?
Because there are a lot of things.
I mean, you can talk about soccer and jiu-jitsu and everything, but they're closer to us with a very Catholic society than they are further apart, I think.
Do you think it'd be wise for a lot of companies to start doing more business there?
Well, yes.
And in fact, even their growing evangelical base is one of the key swing coalitions that both Bolsonaro and Lula are targeting in that Brazilian election.
I think with the, I'm very concerned that the election of Petro in Colombia, who literally is former guerrilla leader, I mean, not just figuratively, when you say, hey, this guy was a guerrilla terrorist.
He actually was a guerrilla terrorist.
That was one of his resume indicators.
I mean, so it's not an insult.
It's like, you know, on the resume checklist, terrorists done that.
But you look at Lula in Brazil.
If they're able to get Petro and Lula in, that's going to open the door for the CCP.
The CCP has been desperate to try to get into Brazil and Colombia because of their strategic importance and part of their LAT-AM expansion.
And it's really the one area around the world where the CCP has been stymied a bit, but they're making a push.
The door is open now in Colombia.
And for a lot of people, it might not realize, but Colombia is right there on both the Caribbean and the Pacific.
So they're essentially the gateway between North America and South America.
And then Brazil is obviously South America's largest economy.
CCP wants their clutches in that.
And if we don't do a better job of making them allies and hugging them close, then we're going to wake up and the CCP is going to have a very two-footed stronghold in South America.
That's not good.
Yeah, I could see them doing a lot of what they've done with some of the African nations and some of the smaller South American nations.
Heading Back to Japan 00:03:52
Hey, we're going to set up a bunch of industry there.
And if you disobey us, we're just going to cut it off.
And there goes your jobs and your prosperities, which is what they do a lot in some of the Central African nations, if I'm not mistaken.
Before we let you go, Lincoln, Jay, any questions?
What do I pay you for?
No questions.
When are you traveling back?
So heading back this evening, I'll be heading back to New York and the Big Apple.
And so I'll be there this evening, New York the next couple days, probably down in South Florida, end of the week.
So the roadshow continues.
I think the next big trip's coming up.
We have the week of Thanksgiving or that third week in November.
We'll be in the UK for Getter Comedy Night, first ever, and then the Getter World Cup party that we're doing.
We're also that week going to probably have Getter World Cup parties in France and in Germany.
So I'll do a little day trips over there.
We're going to do the same thing in Brazil at the end of November.
And then we'll be at CPAC, Japan, the first week in the first week of December.
So Japan is a rapidly growing market for us.
We just follow our incorporation there.
And so it's the first country outside the U.S. where we've incorporated.
And this will be our first trip there as they've been closed the last year and a half, but they're finally open.
That's how you get into gaming, maybe through Japan through Getter Gaming.
Well, that and also, too, when we talk about sports, I'm actually going to be meeting with some retired sumo wrestlers.
There's an MMA fighter I'll be meeting with when I'm in Japan.
You're right, on the gaming side, we're actually, I think, going to have a presence at the gaming conference in LA coming up in December.
We'll probably be at CES in January out in Vegas.
And so a whole bunch of different areas, but I call it kind of our post-political phase.
We're always going to have the politics.
That's where the passion.
I mean, I'm a political nerd.
I love this stuff.
I love about the fight that we're in.
Politics is always going to be really kind of the heart and soul.
But how we scale as a platform, to your point, is we get into sports, the entertainment, the pop culture.
That'll get a lot of even more passive people that they're not political chunkies.
These are whoever is getting these jobs, Jason, this sounds a good time.
You go to video game conferences, you go to Japan.
I could encourage a World Cup thing here in the Toronto area.
There's lots of Greeks, Italians.
You go out east a bit more.
It's going to be all your Scots and Brits.
So maybe that's something to set up.
Anything else you want to mention before we let you go?
No, but I do need to start reading up on soccer.
I'm not a soccer player.
But I'll be an expert by the time World Cup gets here.
I just want to say thanks for everything you're doing for free speech, too.
Lincoln's one of the guys who was on the trucker live streams on Getter.
So that was a big deal for him.
That was his huge coming out party.
And now I have to bring him onto the show so that I can leech off of his popularity on Getter.
But like I said, people always want to say, oh, Getter, are you just promoting them?
Well, one, you don't pay me.
So I'll say that.
And two, it's just a better software.
I'm sorry.
And the growth is natural.
I always link it back to early YouTube days where you could actually grow.
You can actually see the people like your stuff and they'll start following you.
You go on YouTube or Twitter right now, you lose people every day.
So Getter is an actual natural algorithm where people will like you.
And if you post things, then you'll get followers.
I'm sorry, Jason.
I'm sorry, okay?
Although I did shamelessly bring you a Getter beating that shit.
You give me free stuff.
It'll go on the back.
On Free Merch, it'll go on the back.
Lincoln, I'm waiting for your free stuff.
Too much picking on Lincoln.
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You can go to the World Cup parties and the comedy nights.
I'll be coming to Japan.
I'm just bringing this on you now, Jason.
I'm coming to Japan to start some sort of gaming channel.
I don't know.
Thanks a lot, Jason.
Have a great time the rest of your trip.
Thanks for stopping by.
We look forward to seeing you again.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
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