Nat and Kat dissect four men deemed culturally toxic: Justin Trudeau, exposed for blackface in 2019 and weaponizing Canada’s Emergencies Act in 2022 while ignoring domestic protests; Adam Levine, accused of inappropriate DMs (e.g., "distract yourself by effing with me") and alleged affairs with multiple models; Harry Styles, criticized for "queer baiting" and avoiding clarity on his sexuality despite leveraging it; and Leonardo DiCaprio, mocked for climate hypocrisy—his yacht emits 238 kg CO₂/mile—and chasing younger women like Gigi Hadid (27) while nearing 50. Their reckless behavior, enabled by fame and wealth, reveals a pattern of privilege over accountability, reshaping public trust in celebrity influence. [Automatically generated summary]
And welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood lady or gent.
Non-binary or non-binary.
We are your hosts.
I'm Nat.
I forgot my name for a second.
And I'm Kat.
And today we're focusing on four of the worst men in the current zeitgeist.
One's a climate criminal.
One's a blackface-wearing political theater actor.
One is a musical perv, and one is a queer baiting perv who breaks up families.
But first, our patented culture shock moment of the week.
Take it away, Nat.
Alrighty, well, is this when we do the big reveal?
Yeah, let's reveal.
Ta-da!
Tadder!
Tudor!
Breaking news!
Fix your.
We will no longer have to wear masks on public transportation.
And guess what?
ArriveCan's been suspended on September 30th.
Congratulations.
Congratulations, Canada.
Almost three years into the pandemic, and we're finally dropping restrictions.
Woo!
Yay!
I'm so excited.
I can't fly anywhere because I'm pregnant, but one day.
One day.
One day I will.
Sounds masked.
And I will.
It would have been nice last week on the VIA.
Would have been nice.
You know, watch after you give birth.
Mask mandate reinstated, baby.
Sorry.
So enjoy the fresh air while you can, guys.
Enjoy it, guys.
But have a blast on those airplanes.
Eat those snacks.
Yeah.
Guilt-free.
Delete those apps.
Delete your apps.
Delete the apps.
And if you downloaded it, I don't know.
Judging you a little bit.
We're going to talk about the four biggest idiots.
Now, we were going to do Hollywood, but we had to add in someone who's not really from Hollywood.
Yeah.
Just like the biggest idiots, generally.
And there is an honorable mention, in my opinion.
Okay.
Who's an athlete?
Okay.
Right.
That we've talked about before.
Yep.
Well, this is the male edition.
That's important to note.
So the four biggest idiots male edition.
Last week we did the four biggest idiots in Hollywood female edition.
And so just as a quick recap, we talked about Kim Kardashian, Chrissy Teigen, Olivia Wilde, and what was the other one?
Jennifer Lawrence.
Jennifer Lawrence, right.
And who was the worst woman in Hollywood?
Kat.
I think it was Kim Kardashian.
I think it was.
Yeah.
Well, she's just the worst woman ever.
She's just generally the worst.
Generally the worst.
Non-binary person, male.
Yeah, she could top the male list as well.
Why Age Matters?00:13:08
I think she's also a climate hypocrite.
Yes, she is.
She's a climate criminal.
And also breaks up families.
Okay.
Yes.
Well.
Her own.
Okay.
So we're going to start off with everyone's favorite climate hypocrite.
And we actually talked about this individual on our very first episode, if misunderstood.
But it's none other than drumroll Leonardo DiCaprio.
Hey, welcome to the show, Leo.
Welcome back.
We're not necessarily going to bring up his old sins, although they do matter.
So maybe we can start.
I have a lot of things about his old sins.
Let's talk about his old sins.
Okay, what is his new sins?
Let's talk about his old sins.
Let's talk about his old sins first.
Okay, yeah.
So eco hypocrite.
This is just, yeah, we've talked about this, but he talks about climate change and he yells at everybody on whenever he gets a mic in his hand about how we need to save the planet and not use fossil fuels.
But then he goes on jets and he has like, he uses this massive yacht.
Yep.
It's 315 feet.
Yes.
And it is estimated to produce 238 kilograms of carbon dioxide per mile, which is equivalent to the amount of CO2 an average British car emits in two months.
So that sounds great for the environment.
Greta?
obviously great um also there's this hilarious story from 2017 um that was reported that he had this australian brow expert flown in from australia from australia to california to there's no brow experts in california Yeah.
They all have terrible eyes.
The beauty capital of America, North America.
And this person was flown in to do his eyebrows for the Oscars.
Now, apparently, the individual, her name is Sydney Morning.
Wait.
Nope.
That's the name of the newspaper.
Sydney Morning Herald.
It could be a name.
I don't know her name, but she, Sharon Lee.
Sharon Lee is her name.
Sharon Lee.
Sydney Morning Lee.
Sharon Lee was flown in from Australia to LA, but she did other people's eyebrows.
Yeah, and apparently.
So she did four eyebrows.
Some of her work is apparently just like a tweeze here and there.
But she's the ex-she plucked a total of 16 hairs and was flown from Australia to California.
Amongst the people whom's hair, whom had their hair plucked was Leonardo DiCaprio.
And it's just, it's a very funny story because it's like, it's your brows.
Yeah.
And like, as I said already, you're in California.
There are many, many people.
Like you could literally find some random girls.
You can't do any brow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just go up to any girl with good brows and be like, can you give me a tweeze?
And they'd be like, they do it for free because you're Leonardo DiCaprio.
Yeah.
Like I do photo.
I'll do it.
Yeah, I would do it.
Matt and I both could do your brows, Leo.
It'd be great.
We could do them over Zoom.
We could do it over Zoom.
We could, it's like a workshop.
You know, it's just, it's a funny little story, but it's old news.
It's old news.
So what are his more current?
Yeah.
So other than being a well-known champion for the environment, he, as you know, recently broke up with his girlfriend, ex-model and old hag, 25-year-old, what's her name, Camille Marone or something.
And now, apparently, he has his site set on supermodel and 27-year-old single mother, Shiji Hadid.
So this is his like, this is his story redemption arc.
This is like his character redemption arc, dating someone who's 27 years old and has a child.
She's basically like a senior citizen.
She's like years.
Yeah, and she has, and she has a child.
And she's a single mother, I know, which I find interesting.
And that's actually what I think is the more interesting part of this is she is a mom to a toddler.
And he is, he has Peter Pan syndrome.
Like he's 48 or something.
She's probably taking care of him.
But how could she, how could she not see the red flags?
He's been basically chronically single his entire life.
She has no children.
Yeah.
I mean, you'd think she would want someone in her child's life who is a bit more responsible than climate criminal Leonardo.
I don't know.
Listen to this quote from this People Magazine article.
The pair have known each other casually for years.
They sort of run in the same high-profile circles and would see each other at events, clubs, restaurants, and gatherings, says the film source.
Oh, you don't see.
It's called Hollywood.
Yeah, like they're all very different.
Like, did you need to explain that to us?
Like, they're sort of like high-profile.
Yeah.
Sort of like run in the same circle.
They're kind of famous celebrities.
My favorite part is he likes that she has her life together, a source previously told people.
She has a child and she's mature.
He wants to be with someone who has the same idea of good causes and political views like he does.
What?
So they can fly around together and lecture everybody on fossil fuels.
I guess so, but he just dumped someone allegedly because they turned 25, but now he wants someone older and more mature.
Again, this is, this is, he's trying, he doesn't want his reputation to be that tarnished.
So he's like, no, I can date an older woman.
Yeah.
27.
Yeah, and it's funny because another article says that, but at almost 48, he's mellowing out a lot more and dropping hints to his buddies that he's way less interested in that playboy lifestyle.
You're like 50 years old.
50 years old.
Like you're a dad.
Like you're like our dad.
You could have a child in high school and instead you're dating girls who are just out of high school.
Yeah, like it's absolutely, it's insane.
Like, and women are, like, why would women take him seriously?
I understand he has, he has clout and he's been an actor and on the scene, the Hollywood scene for many, many years.
But it's like, really?
Like, there's no other options for you, Gigi Hadid.
You want this bear with alopecia?
Throwback.
Throwback.
You know?
Yeah, Nat and I were talking about that earlier.
Like, why would someone like Gigi Hadid want to date Leonardo DiCaprio?
Is it because she grew up watching his movies and it's just like, oh, like.
A weird schoolgirl crush?
Yeah.
Yeah, like I can date someone who I, you know, never thought I could.
I get like usually young, beautiful models date older men because they have money, but Gigi Hadid has a ton of money.
Yeah, and I understand wanting to date someone more mature.
Like perhaps things didn't work out with Zane because he's a one direction star.
I don't know.
He's Zaney.
He's Zaney.
But I mean, I just think of anyone, you've chosen Leonardo DiCaprio.
It's not like he's aging well, really.
Like he's not, he's not cute.
No.
So I really don't understand other than the wealth and fame that you already possess.
It's just, it makes no sense.
Makes no sense.
And he's, it's just like, I understand when you're young wanting to date young hot models, but like you said, like he's, he's mellowing out.
He's almost 50 years old.
Like, don't you want someone who has like a shared frame of reference who can have an intellectual conversation with you?
And then I was like, wait, it's Leo.
Maybe he's an idiot.
Well, I have.
He might be an idiot.
I have a thing about him.
I have a theory because if you look at a lot of his movies, not so much at the start of his career, but now he is basically, he always plays people who are incapable of love.
I think that is because that's who he is.
I don't think he can love people.
Like, I really don't think so.
I'm not convinced whenever he has like a romantic sort of scene.
He doesn't really have that.
And he doesn't do it much.
Yeah.
And I think it's because he's incapable.
Like the days of Romeo and Juliet are long gone, my friends.
Or Kate, what's his name?
Yeah.
Wait, not Kate.
Kate Winslet in Titanic.
But what are their names in the movie?
I don't know.
Rose.
Rose and Jack's hot guy.
Jack.
Yeah.
You know, that's a good point.
You play what you know.
You play what you know.
And I think he just knows alcohol, and that's what it is.
And then there's.
And how to get his brows tweezed.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a good skill, Leo, but do it yourself next time.
Another really fun quote, because there's just so many.
There's so many good ones.
Leo and Camilla just weren't having fun anymore.
A different source told us following the breakup, the honeymoon phase was over and things faded out.
Oh, so you're diving headfirst into a relationship with a single mom.
What do you think the word commitment means, man?
After they spent four years together, Camilla and Leo, that's a long time.
It is a long time.
No wonder the honeymoon phase is.
Yeah, the honeymoon phase ends a lot faster than four years.
Yeah, it's like after like three months.
Yeah.
Like, of course it's gone.
It's about, you know, working together to keep the spark alive.
I don't know.
But she was 25.
Oh, old hag.
My bad.
But yeah, it's, it's so funny.
Like, they just weren't having fun anymore.
Like, oh, because that's all your life is.
Like, you, you, on one hand are saying, I don't want to, like, I'm not really about that Playboy life, but also, like, my 25-year-old girlfriend, I just weren't having fun.
Who's a model?
Yeah.
Like, who's beautiful?
Like, a 15 out of 10.
But it's not fun.
It's probably not fun coming home to that every day, you old fart.
Yeah.
I just, I, like, again, obviously, it must be fun being super rich and dating models.
Like, as a man, like, I'm sure that's, I'm sure.
I'm sure it's great.
It's great.
But, like, you've been doing it for 20 years.
Yeah, like, it must get old.
And clearly, it's not working for him because he's just dating the same kind of woman over and over again.
Maybe that's the fun, like just a new one.
I guess, like a new, like a new car.
It's like, yeah, you have two Maseratis, but one's a different color.
And you get like, oh, this is the newest model.
Because he keeps getting older, but they stay the same age.
It's true.
That's, I guess, fun.
It's just like, you'd think at 50 or 48, like he would be like, I did that for 20 years.
Like, it was fun.
I'm not saying like, no, I, I'm.
What I'm saying is, like, I understand how a man could think that's fun.
Like, you know, they're not all going to be Christians and want to have a lot of fun.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Like, marry their husband.
He is in Hollywood after.
Yes, it's Hollywood.
But, but, like, you'd think after so many years of doing it, you'd be like, okay, like, even George Clooney settled down.
Right.
Especially when all your, that's what I mean, though.
When all of your friends are married and having children, it's like, maybe it's time for you to, you know, follow it.
It makes me sad.
It is really sad.
Because he's not young.
He's old.
Yeah.
He's so old.
He's like 100.
It's just so weird how men can date women who are half their age.
Like, what was that article you sent me earlier?
That's Brad Pitt and Emily Areta Janowski.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's 31 and he's 60.
Is he almost 60?
Yeah, he's 58.
He's 30 years older than her.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
He's 58 and she's 31.
so it's it's almost 30 years difference and it's like oh like in hollywood for men like you don't even be this normal but it's like children Yeah, like you were 30 when she was born.
Yeah.
No, it's weird.
It's so weird.
And like there's this weird thing where men can get old and get wrinkly, but women can't.
And like when he was dating, like now Jennifer Anderson is like too old for him.
She's so old, but it's like she's your age.
Like it's just so sad.
And no wonder women do all this stuff to their faces like Kardashian so much because they're like, I don't want exactly.
You can't age in Hollywood as a woman and you don't want to be left behind.
Or like media in general.
I think there's so much pressure on women.
In any like visual medium.
There's no way that Kim Kardashian would still be as relevant as she is today if she didn't have so much plastic surgery injection.
It's super sad.
It is really sad.
Like we've talked about this.
Like do we do it to ourselves?
Is it men's?
Like whose fault is it?
I'm not exactly sure.
It's not something that we can just end because like we too feel like I feel pressure every day.
Yeah.
Every time one of our fans calls us ugly.
Yeah.
I mean it's we laugh at it though.
So if you think we're ugly keep them coming.
Yeah, we're obviously gorgeous.
Yeah.
It's like color.
But it's like any no woman is safe from the pressure of trying to feel beautiful or look beautiful.
So imagine if you're an aging woman in Hollywood and then you're seeing someone like Leonardo DiCaprio who's almost 50.
Dated a teenager.
Yeah.
Like literally, I graduated university at 22.
These these girls are within a stone's throw of that age.
Yeah.
It's weird.
Like you're still eating hot pockets.
Yeah.
You're still like they're basically fresh out of the womb.
Yeah.
They're newborns.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's also interesting on the on the topic of mean comments that that's all that men usually talk about when they comment on a woman's like Instagram or video or something.
They don't, no one's out here on Leonardo DiCaprio's video saying, hey, you're ugly.
Like people are just like, we do.
Yeah, we do.
But like, it's funny that all of us.
We're elevated.
Yeah.
You know, we take very seriously.
But like, it's always about a woman's appearance.
And it's just interesting, like, how men get away with it.
Even on our stupid little comments.
Like, even on the comments that we get from men, 80% of them are like how we look.
Either they're like, oh, these girls are gorgeous or they're ugly.
It's like, okay, we're talking here.
Like, we're talking here.
And I mean, obviously, some of the stuff we talk about is kind of silly and we get silly, but this is a zesty and saturated show.
It has nothing to do with our intellect.
We could be wearing, well, we, you know, we could be wearing green suits, which is floating heads, which, you know, stay tuned.
Face Value Matters00:08:19
Stay tuned for Halloween.
It shouldn't matter.
Like, I understand in Hollywood it's different, but like, my God, let these women age.
Yeah.
Let them age.
We should normalize aging.
Yeah, and it's all Leo's fault.
It's all Leo's fault.
Whose fault is it?
It's Leo's fault.
Because you have to date a 20-year-old when you're 50.
And then someone like Kardashian is like, well, I'm going to get all my fat from my butt put into my face.
Yes.
And that's exactly what she's doing as we speak.
But right now.
In defense of Leo, he did not ruin the great nation of Canada.
Yes.
He is not responsible for what has been going on here for the last how long has this guy seven years?
Seven years.
Goodness gracious.
I can't remember a time before Justin Trudeau was the prime minister.
I think he was good.
I think times were good.
I think times were definitely better.
He was a lot younger.
I'm going to say times were probably better.
But of course, as you mentioned, yeah, we were younger, so it's kind of hard to compare.
But things are pretty bad under Trudeau, wouldn't you guys say?
I think so.
And there's many reasons why.
Yeah.
So many scandals.
So many scandals.
From We Charity to SNC Lavalin to Blackface.
Three times.
Three times.
How many times have you done Blackface?
Zero.
Me too.
Zero times.
Unless you call like a charcoal exfoliating face mask.
Yeah, Blackface.
I don't even do those anymore.
Actually, no, there's a good one from the ordinary.
Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
No, it's amazing.
Exactly.
You don't want the ones that peel.
No.
Those are horrible.
No.
There's this funny quote from the CBC article.
This article is called What We Know About Justin Trudeau's Blackface, Photos and What Happens Next.
He wrote nothing.
So here's the quote.
The first photo of Justin Trudeau in blackface makeup was released on September 18th.
I think this is from 2019, this article.
Within hours, more photos surface of Trudeau dressed up in darkened face.
Darkened face.
It's funny.
And then when pressed the next day to state whether there were any more such images, Trudeau, now the liberal leader, said, I'm very wary of being definitive about this.
What a political answer.
I'm very, so yes, possibly.
And yes.
It's just, what a hilarious way.
And didn't.
Next time I'm in trouble, that's how I'm answering the question.
That's a good idea.
I'm wary about being definitive.
But didn't he say, like, when he finally apologized that we all need to do better?
Yeah.
It was a learning moment for Canada.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, I didn't need to learn from that, actually, because I've never done it.
But I guess nice try there, Trudeau.
He is a really interesting person in that he's the worst.
Yeah.
And are we surprised that he likes to dress up like a black person or an Indian person?
No, because he dresses up like a prime minister every single day.
Oh my gosh, yeah, the greatest role, the role of a lifetime, frankly.
And he's not even doing that well.
I give him at least a C minus in terms of his performances.
He has so many, so many scandals.
The most egregious, I think we can all agree, is the use of the Emergencies Act.
Oh, baby.
Just back in February of 2022, when the federal government invoked the never used before Emergencies Act to literally trample on peaceful protesters in Ottawa, Canada, who were protesting a political view that they had peacefully, might I add, very peacefully.
But Trudeau has, so he, so he used the Emergencies Act to literally trample people with horses and freeze bank accounts.
But at the same time, he supported the Indian farmers' protests of 2020 to 2021.
And he's currently supporting the Iranian women's protests.
Yeah.
Which is a great cause.
Yes, of course.
Absolutely.
I support that protest as well.
But it's just weird.
It's funny because he cares about civil liberties, but then people are getting fined for not wearing masks the last few years.
Like, it's hilarious.
And how do people not see the hypocrisy?
No.
It makes no sense.
Like, are people just so blind to this person?
I mean, I'm assuming he's going to call for another election somewhat soon.
I hope.
I honestly think he won't because I hope he does.
Well, it doesn't seem like he's doing well.
I mean, it is exciting because I do think a lot of people have kind of woken up to his tyranny and his just he just falls short.
He doesn't even, he doesn't even do things that liberals want him to do.
Like, he's not pleasing them either, it seems.
So, it's interesting.
And he keeps winning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It boggles the mind.
But the last time we had an election, which was what, 2021?
Fall of 2021.
Yeah.
The conservative leader was Aaron O'Toole.
And he just had zero fire.
He was not a worthy opponent.
He was not.
So, and he came close too.
He won the popular vote.
Trudeau literally got a minority government and lost the popular vote.
So it was like, it was really close with someone as wimpy as Aaron O'Toole.
It'll be really interesting to see someone like Pierre Polyev actually go face to face with him.
But I forget what I was going to say.
Oh, yeah.
The dropping of the mandates.
It's interesting because I saw people on Twitter talking about how it's like, it's a reaction to Pierre Polyev because it's like people are so hyped on freedom and getting moving past COVID that Trudeau's like, okay, well, I'm going to drop the mandate.
So at least that's something that the conservatives can't use against me anymore.
That's true.
And it's like, while I'm happy, it's extremely calculated.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm happy it's happening.
Yeah.
But it's also so late.
Like, we're almost at year three here of any sort of COVID restrictions.
And the fact that this exists so late in the game is just shocking.
Yeah.
You know?
And in other countries, these rules have not existed for a long time.
Yeah.
In some places, they didn't exist at all.
But one thing that's interesting, when he became prime minister in 2015, I think it was, apparently, according to an independent assessment by two dozen Canadian academics, Mr. Trudeau kept fully or partially 92% of the promises he made to people in his first term, which is the most by any Canadian government in 35 years.
And although when he was elected, I was like not happy about it.
I find that really interesting.
And I'm wondering what the shift was for him that made him just so unbearable and so undemocratic almost.
Because now, like I said already, he's not really pleasing anybody.
Like this is not a great place to live.
We have sky-high inflation, like gas with the war in Ukraine and not relying on our own resources and stuff like that.
Like people are noticing.
And the political tension has never been higherization is just insane.
And he is so to blame for that.
Absolutely.
Let's not forget when he was like, those people want to sit on an airplane next to you, unvaccinated people.
Like he really demonized unvaccinated people.
And then now he's just dropping all the mandates.
And people who were brainwashed into believing all of that rhetoric, I've seen them on Twitter with the news of the dropping of the mandates.
And I'm like, oh my God, how can they do this?
I feel unsafe.
It's like, this is what happened to you.
You got your mind warped by a complete like tyrannical propaganda.
Yeah, exactly.
By tyranny and fear.
And now all of a sudden they're like, oh, it's not politically in vogue to be hard on COVID anymore.
So they're going to drop it because they never cared about your health.
All they cared about was power, power, and policy.
And seeing how many of us submit to their laws and restrictions and mandates and stuff.
And unfortunately, it was a majority of people.
Now the people who are freaking out about losing the right to sit next to someone who's vaccinated and wearing a mask, like you got played.
You got so played.
And it's so sad because those are three years of fear that people are not going to get back.
You're never going to get it back.
And to bounce back from that, I think it's just going to be very difficult for so many people if they do at all.
Never mind the children.
Never mind the money.
Someone, please think of the children.
There are some children who literally have never lived a day outside of COVID.
Well, Kat, we already know that no one gives a crap about kids in our culture.
So let's just ruin their lives through walking experiments, okay?
Yeah.
But anyway, Trudeau is the worst.
He's the worst.
Get rid of him.
See you at the polls.
Yeah.
Okay.
Feather Boas and Family Drama00:15:06
Next on our list.
Someone who's been all over the tabloids as of late, Adam Levine.
Yes.
Or Levine.
Levine.
And all over many girls DMs.
All over.
Many girls, probably.
I'd just like to say that Adam Levine, Levine, Levine.
Levine.
He looks like a convict who's like advocating for his innocence.
He looks like an Australian.
That is so mean.
You're all descendants of criminals.
I'm just going to cut that.
We'll cut that or not.
Probably not.
I love you, Australia.
It's so he, there's a lot here.
Yes.
Well, not really.
It's mostly the one thing, but it's a lot.
So he was in the news last week because an IG model.
What is that?
What is an IG model?
And not a real model.
Like, you're not going to see her.
A hot girl, your phone, and she gets paid for it.
Must be nice.
Yeah, that's the dream.
So this IG model leaked private messages between herself and Adam Levine, which he, there are so many memes.
Have you seen the memes?
Yes, they're all over Twitter.
I'm sure you guys have seen them.
I'm going to post some of them.
They're hilarious.
Send your faves.
Send your faves.
Basically, he was accused by her of having an affair cheating on his wife, who he has children with.
Yes, and who's currently pregnant with another child.
Who's currently pregnant?
And some of the things that he was saying were commenting on how hot this woman's body is.
He also said that he wanted to name his son Summer after the IG model, which is just like extremely inappropriate.
And you're going to name your son Summer.
It's just so much.
So he's, there's a lot.
He's saying that he did not have an affair, but he crossed a line.
Yeah, maybe we can read his statement that he made.
I don't think he's the whole problem here, actually.
So he does not win my vote for the worst, but he's up there.
In a statement to TMZ on Tuesday, Adam said of the allegations against him, I use poor judgment in speaking with anyone other than my wife in any kind of flirtatious manner.
I did not have an affair.
Nevertheless, I crossed the line during a regrettable period of my life.
He continued, in certain instances, it became inappropriate.
I've addressed that and taken proactive steps to remedy this with my family.
My wife and my family is all I care about in this world.
To be this naive and stupid enough to risk the only thing that truly matters to me was the greatest mistake I could ever make.
I will never make it again.
I take full responsibility.
We will get through it and we will get through it together.
That's kind of sweet.
It is sweet, but it's just how invincible does this person think he is?
He's a famous man.
Like everybody in the world knows who he is.
You don't think some random chicks that you're flirting with aren't going to show their friends?
Like everyone's screenshotting your messages.
If Adam Levine messages me, I'm screenshots.
Like how naive are you?
Or it's not that he's naive.
He just literally is so arrogant that he thought he was going to get away with it.
That's what I think.
Yeah.
Dumb or stupid.
Sorry, dumb or mean.
Yeah.
Like that's always the question.
I don't think he's dumb.
Yeah.
I think he's.
That's a tough one.
It is tough.
And, but it gets even worse because Sumner Strone, who laid it all out on TikTok, this is the woman who he had the affair with, just a few days after the wife announced, his wife announced her pregnancy, claimed she was tricked into having an affair with the singer, saying it happened at a point when she was young and naive, adding she now feels exploited.
Oh, sorry, you're the victim.
Yeah.
You're the victim.
How young were you?
Seven?
Also, like, you knew what you were getting into.
It's the same thing with the clout thing with Maybe YG.
Like if she's with Leo.
She's trying to say that he groomed her, basically.
Yeah, I don't think the word groom.
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know how young she was.
I don't know either, but I don't think it matters.
I think she was just looking for clout at the expense of someone else's family.
Yeah, exactly.
She's looking for clout and to get her, because now who knew her before?
Nobody.
Just a couple people, like, you know, thousands of people.
Just the creepy guys who follow her.
Exactly.
But now everyone knows who she is, but she also didn't want to be the homewrecker.
Yeah.
So it's like, oh, she was taken advantage of.
Which is what we've seen countless times with the whole Me Too movement, you know?
Yeah, but take some responsibility for your actions.
Like you want, you want to be a female with voting rights and you have to have agency.
Yeah.
Like you can't be like, oh, women, we don't have the right to choose what to do with our bodies.
Like you chose what to do with your body by putting it on him.
And now you're saying he victimized you?
It just, it's so immature.
And Candace Owens said something about this too, about how just because something happens on social media, like social media is still real life.
Like people think like, oh, I'm posting this naked photo of me or I'm messaging this person and like flirting and saying whatever I want, but it's not going to come back and bite me in the ass one day.
Well, guess what?
Social media is actually real life.
It's obviously not in like a physical sense.
But what's different about that than sending a photo and writing a letter to someone saying like, oh, I want to cheat on my wife with you.
Exactly.
Or just doing the actual act at a bar.
Like there's not, it's not different.
They all are equal sins in my opinion.
Like, so it's just funny how people think that because it's social media, it didn't really happen IRL.
But it did.
It is happening.
So you don't.
Social media is real life.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's a great point.
It's just funny that these people think that they're invincible online.
I don't know.
Like, because there's children in the picture, I hope that him and his family can reconcile this.
I hope that what he said in his statement is true.
Me too.
And then she's pregnant.
Yeah.
His beautiful model wife.
Ooh.
But I was talking about this with my mother-in-law, actually.
These people are so rich and so famous and they have nothing else to live for, like nothing else to work toward in their life.
So it's like when you have so much money and so much free time and, you know, and if everything's at your disposal, of course you're going to just cheat on your wife.
Of course you're going to go to Epstein Island.
Of course.
That's true.
Because you need to get off something.
You need to up the ante every time.
Yeah.
Just having a beautiful model wife isn't enough.
Having it all isn't enough anymore, so you need to cheat on her and you need, like, exactly.
Yeah.
You need, you're missing the thrills, you know?
And one of the things I noticed, so there's this, there's two other women that have come forward and said that he was inappropriately talking to them as well.
This one is Marika.
She posted a private video of Levine allegedly sent her, which he says, I'm stupid, though the context of which is not totally clear.
It's like, okay, that doesn't mean he's cheating.
Oh, but apparently this.
Sorry, there's a screen grab of him talking to this Marika.
She's a comedian.
And he tells her to just, she says to him that she wants to get off social media.
And he says, to distract, he says, distract yourself by effing with me.
It could be flirting.
It could be.
It could be whatever.
We don't know.
They bleeped it out.
And then there's this other one, Allison Rosef.
She posted a series of DMs allegedly sent to her from Adam, which read in part, quote, I shouldn't be talking to you.
You know, right?
And then during another exchange, when Allison states she only likes metal music, Levine allegedly responds, said no hot chicks ever other than you.
So that's like kind of innocuous, but it sounds like, it sounds like a 25-year-old man on Tinder.
Yeah.
Like, oh, like, like a thirsty guy.
Yeah, like, oh, you, like, that's how men talk, like, oh, they, like, kind of nag, like, oh, your tasting music sucks.
Like, it's so true.
No, hot chicks don't listen to metal, which is not true, by the way.
Sorry that your, your music is maroon five.
Yeah.
Like, sorry that you, anyways, that's a side note.
But he just, he sounds like a 25-year-old douchebag on Tinder, not a 40.
I think.
Maybe he's been watching Andrew Tate.
Yeah, seriously.
He's like, he's in his 40s and he's married with children.
Like, act like it, buddy.
Yeah, it's time for these men to be able to grow up.
Like, this Peter Pan syndrome thing, it's got to go.
Men need to become men.
Goodness gracious.
Yeah.
I am just sick of the babies.
You have babies.
Stop being a baby.
You have children and you have wealth and you have a career.
Like, grow up.
Yeah.
It's time to grow up.
But to your point, I really hope that they're able to work through it in their marriage because obviously kids are always the consequence of these things.
And it's just his behavior is very selfish.
And I think he should be held to account, but hopefully there's forgiveness.
Even if what, even if these women are lying, like the fact that he's, it's believable because of how he acts and the way he dresses and the way he speaks.
Like, it's just, that's part of the whole like personality that you have curated for yourself that it's very believable that you're flirting with IG models on Instagram.
And, you know, if you wanted to, you know, cheat on people, just don't get married.
You don't want to have kids.
Like, just do it.
Do you know?
Maybe Leo.
Maybe Levo's bad.
Yeah.
You know, at least he's not, you know, ruining his children's lives.
Yeah.
Slandering his wife.
He's a nun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That he knows of, I guess.
Yeah, that's true.
Our Mark Marlborough.
Okay.
All right.
Final dude on the list.
Our favorite.
Every week.
We've never talked about him before.
Yes.
But that's.
We're going to head in one direction.
Harry Styles.
Okay, so it's Harry Styles.
We should start at the beginning.
Taylor Swift.
Knock it back.
She ruined it.
We'll go further than that.
So as many of you know, we've talked about Olivia Wilde last week.
So we can't talk about Harry Styles without talking about Olivia Wilde.
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
And as you guys know, because you all listen to this show religiously, Olivia Wilde and her boyfriend of seven years.
And father of her children.
Jason Sudekis broke up last year, I believe it was, in 20, oh, sorry.
They ended their seven-year engagement in late 2020.
That's what she says.
Yeah.
Apparently he says it's different.
But E-News initially learned the duo split in early 2020.
But Sudekis said they called it quits in November 2020.
So, okay.
So apparently in January 2021, Wilde was spotted holding hands with Harry Styles, who she worked with on her movie Don't Worry Darling, who she had an affair with in her wild film.
Allegedly.
Yeah, well filmed.
That's the allegation is that she was cheating on her fiancé and father of her children, Jason Sudeikis, with Harry Styles, who's way younger and also wears dresses.
Feather boas, which is and it's not like when we talk about this Olivia Wilde stuff, I feel like most people kind of just gloss over like, oh, Harry Styles is just sort of like an innocent pawn in this whole thing.
It's like you knew what you were doing.
No, both parties need to be held to account.
Switch the genders for a second.
Imagine the director of the movie is a man and the young hot cast member is a woman and the director has a wife and a family.
Yeah.
Visiting him on set.
Yes, she was destroyed by the media.
And we would destroy her as well.
But Harry Styles is not innocent in this.
He got involved with a woman who, while not married, was engaged for seven years and had two children with someone.
And the timeline is muddy.
Like maybe there was a clear definitive split and then she started dating Harry Styles.
Maybe.
That's what she says.
I hope so, but I doubt it.
But people, like we've talked about, Florence Pugh allegedly saw that that was not the case and had a big fight with Olivia Wilde on the set of the movie.
And that's why they have like this drama now.
Yeah.
So there's that.
So there's Harry Styles.
Homewrecker.
Homewrecker.
Allegedly.
Potentially.
Yeah.
Allegedly.
But that's not the worst thing about him, surprisingly.
But also, did they break up?
Yeah.
I mean, who cares?
But also, if they did break up, it's kind of like, was it worth it?
It's embarrassing.
Like, you tore a family apart.
Yeah.
Or you played a role in tearing a family apart.
So, was it really worth it?
Like, that's what I don't understand about these cheaters.
It's like, you're probably not going to stay with this person anyway.
Like, you know, why get burgers when you have steak at home?
You know, I like burgers too, but you know what I mean.
No, you know, yeah.
And so there's this article from distractify.com.
Did Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde break up?
It's just like, again, like Nat said, who cares?
Not really, nobody, because it's kind of inevitable.
But it's so embarrassing.
Like, they haven't addressed it yet because it's so embarrassing.
Yeah.
Like, and the reason that people think that they might have broken up is because they haven't been seen together in public lately.
And whenever they are in public, there's like other people like physically between them.
At the movie premiere for Devray Darling, they weren't sitting next to each other.
It's just like, it's just embarrassing.
Yeah.
I hope they're still together because I really hope it was, I hope it was all worth it.
Really hope so.
Probably not, though.
But now apparently, people on the right and the left are, I mean, we talked about this months ago, not pleased with Harry Styles because they don't appreciate the ambiguity around his sexuality.
My favorite thing about all this is that Harry Styles seems to act as though he's super original and he's just invented queer baiting.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure David Bowie was someone who was very ambiguous.
David Bowie actually like did it with dudes.
Yeah, but the thing is, that's who I think he's trying to be.
Yeah, I know.
But it's like, you gotta go all the way, buddy.
You gotta go all the way, okay?
Yeah, so there's this article from the this one article is from theweek.com.
Here's a quote: it says, pop star Harry Styles has made a name for himself, proudly eschewing gender norms, promoting equality, and playing it coy when it comes to his love life, which he insists is none of our business.
It actually is our business.
Because you're a celebrity.
Everything you do is our business.
But at the very same time, sorry, but that very same sexual romantic ambiguity has thrown Don't Worry Darling Styles new movie into the center of a social media controversy in which he has been accused of queer baiting or capitalizing on pieces of the queer identity without actually without actually identifying as queer.
So this is something I actually have mixed feelings on because I don't think that we're so devolved that if a man wears a dress, he's automatically gay.
Or he should like, it's just like when you say a woman who plays football and wears cargo shorts doesn't need to chop her tits off and become trans just because she wants to like have a masculine energy.
Like he can have a feminine energy.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I think like he could be a dandy or he could be, you know, heterosexual.
Yeah, he could be straight and wear dresses if like to me, turn off, but I'm not his target audience.
So fine.
But at the same time, he's directly profiting off, and he does like he, so he's directly profiting off of this queer baiting personality.
Yeah.
And he avoids, like the plague, talking about his sexuality.
And there's this quote.
He said, so when someone accute, like he was, it was a, it was addressing the accusation of queer baiting.
Yeah.
He said, sometimes people say, oh, you've only publicly been seen with women.
And I don't think I've publicly been seen with anyone.
Yeah.
A haler, like a what are you talking about?
Yeah.
He's dated a lot of people.
He's dated a lot and women.
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Yeah.
Women also.
That's what I mean.
Sorry, women.
Like he dated Taylor Swift.
I don't know a lot of the other ones, but he's so there's pictures of him walking down the street from years and years ago.
He's pretty young with Taylor Swift.
And then like obviously most recently Olivia Wilde and there's photos of them like making out on the beach in Italy.
It's like so if there were also photos of you making out on the beach in Italy with a man fine.
You can be sexually ambiguous.
Yeah.
Ambiguitous.
Ambiguous.
Ambiguous.
You can do that.
And I don't give a crap who you want to love.
Like, live your life.
Seriously.
But he's just trying to.
He's playing it up.
He's trying to.
He wants people to think he's more interesting and intellectual and creative than I think he actually is.
And I think it's actually also harmful because as men keep getting labeled as toxic, white, hiss, cis, heterosexual men, he's like, no, not me, though.
Yeah, not that much.
Even though he's all of that stuff.
Even though he's literally all of that stuff, but not you, though, because you wear a dress sometimes.
It's because it's our culture is just so regressive that it's cool to be a victim.
Exactly.
You hate anything that's traditional.
So wearing trousers is way too traditional for you.
So you need to wear glittery nail polish, but you can still date models and break up families and be a playboy.
But because you wear nail polish, you're not toxic.
Yeah, like he's interesting.
Yeah, you're interesting in artistic.
He's brooding and like tortured.
And yeah, I just, I think he's, he might be the worst out of all of them, to be honest.
I don't know.
That's a tough one.
It is a toughie.
Yeah.
It's just, and he's not even that, like, is he, is he talented?
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, his music's actually great.
I'm sorry.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
But again, if you go, like, if you present yourself in a certain way, Harry, the public are going to question it.
You live in the public.
Like, I, people know who you are.
You're a celebrity.
If you really don't want people talking about your sexuality, which by the way, we all know you're doing this on purpose.
Yeah, we all know you.
Quit the business, man.
Just quit the business.
Like, stop complaining and pointing fingers at people for commenting on something.
Something so dumb.
Exactly.
Like, oh, I don't know why it's anyone's business.
Because you're literally trying to make people think you're gay.
Yeah.
When you're probably not.
You're most likely not.
And you literally could just be, you could just do your music and date who you want.
Like, again, this is making me think Leo's not so bad.
Yeah.
Because at least he's not trousers.
He's like, yeah, I like hot young women.
Yeah.
And it's not his fault, I guess, that they want to date him.
So he's not the worst one.
He's not the worst one.
It's interesting.
I'm thrown a new level of appreciation for Leonardo DiCaprio.
None of the climate stuff.
All right.
So should we rate.
That's a hard one.
I know it's really tough.
I think, I mean, Justin Trudeau being number one doesn't count because he's.
He's obviously the worst.
He's obviously the worst.
Because he's actually destroying a.
So he's obviously number one.
Let's remove him from.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's number one.
He's number one.
So now it's the fight for the last three spots.
I think it's Harry Styles, Adam Levine, and then Leonardo DiCaprio.
I do think if we want to throw our honorable mention Leah Thomas in there, honorable moments.
Leah Thomas is pretty close to the tippy top there for me.
Yeah, that's a great point.
Because Leah is a biological male who steals medals from biological females.
Swimming, yeah.
Yeah.
So, and so it's hard to say it's tough.
It is tough.
I think you're right, though.
I think Trudeau, then Harry Styles, then Adam Levine, then Leo.
I've grown an appreciation for Leo.
You're talking about all this because at least he's just doing his thing.
Except for the climate stuff.
Yeah, the climate stuff.
Like, go ahead and date teenagers.
But he's not you.
It's not unique to him.
Trudeau also does that.
Like, Kim Kardashian also does that.
Yeah.
So they all do it.
They all literally, Greta Thunberg does that.
Yeah.
So did you really sail on a boat, Greta?
Come on.
Like, you don't take a plane to the genie.
Like, you don't take a plane to what's it?
Maybe she wagons over with a person wagon.
I don't think so, Greta.
Okay.
No.
Someone tells me you're used to a life of luxury now.
Don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
All right.
Well, I think that's the sure.
That's the sure.
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