Miss Understood No. 27 examines the FBI’s August 8, 2023, raid at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago for classified nuclear docs, his disputed declassification claims, and Epstein-linked judge ties, contrasting with past presidents’ immunity. Epstein’s unprosecuted clients—Prince Andrew, Elle Macpherson, and others—evade accountability despite Maxwell’s 20-year low-security sentence, while Schneider’s alleged abuse of iCarly star Jeanette McCurdy (memoir released August 8) mirrors Hollywood’s systemic exploitation, like Weinstein’s coercion. Justice often falters, but faith in divine judgment persists amid victims’ suffering. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood lady or gent.
We are your hosts.
I'm Nat.
And I'm Kat.
And today, whoo, we're going to be talking about Trump and Epstein and who, stuff happening at Nickelodeon that you don't know about probably, but you really, really should and it's not good.
It's not good.
Oh, we don't have a culture shock.
Oh, we don't.
But you know what?
This episode will be shocking enough.
The episode is shocking enough because the FBI raided former President Trump's estate at Mar-a-Lago.
And that is shocking.
We all know about it, but it's still shocking.
I'm shocked.
I'm pretty shocked.
So this happened on Monday, August 8th.
And apparently the house was under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents, according to Trump.
They were reportedly searching the seaside property for boxes of classified documents that Trump allegedly brought to the Ritzy Resort after he left the White House in January of 2021, which would obviously be a violation of federal record-keeping laws.
Yes.
Big deal.
Big deal.
Trump has made a couple of different claims about this.
Like, I know I'm kind of like skipping ahead, although maybe we cut this article anyways.
But teen that Trump is accusing the FBI of planting evidence in his home.
But I read the actual quote.
Let me read it for you.
I got it right here.
Okay.
So Trump said, and this is what they're saying is an allegation of wrongdoing.
So Trump says, everyone was asked to leave the premises.
They wanted to be left alone without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or hopefully not planting.
Why did they strongly insist on having nobody watch them?
Watch them.
Everybody out, question mark.
Obama and Clinton were never raided despite big disputes.
Yeah.
Well, that actually, the second part of that quote is actually a very good point.
And it's something that I think is important.
Like, okay, obviously if, so apparently it came out that the classified documents were related to nuclear weapons.
And we don't, you don't want classified documents to be exposed to the public.
They should be kept in a private and safe space because that could threaten national security and other things.
Not even national.
And Trump did say on August 12th that the documents were already declassified.
I'm not sure if that's true.
Yeah, so like, yes, so he's been kind of saying a couple of things.
But one thing I think it's important to note, which is why I brought up this quote, is that people are saying, oh, Trump is saying it's, they were planted.
Oh, he's also saying they're declassified.
Like, oh, he's changing his story.
It's like, well, actually, he didn't, he didn't say that they were planting evidence.
He's saying, I hope they weren't.
I don't know what they were doing in there.
Like, it could have been unrelated.
Like, he's, he's being Trump.
He is being Trump.
So he's not necessarily saying they planted those nuclear documents in my house.
Like, that's, but that's what Vice is.
But Vice is just a dumpster fireplace.
Yeah, exactly.
In Trump's defense, he has been scrutinized and attacked.
And, you know, yeah, I don't know a better word for attack, but he's just been completely targeted by the Democrats and the left and the establishment during his presidency.
And afterwards, it's like he's not the president anymore.
Leave him.
Let's get over it.
Leave him alone.
And to the other part of that quote, it's like, it kind of seems like, yes, of course, nobody's above the law except for Democrats because Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton are great examples of politicians who have allegedly committed crimes that have gone unpunished.
And it's like, so why are you guys specifically targeting Republicans?
Is it just that Democrats are above the law?
Yes.
Because that's kind of what it seems like, in my opinion.
And I think conservatives are justifiably outraged by this.
Of course, as we believe in like justice, we want the truth to prevail.
If Trump committed a crime, then that's between him and the justice system.
But it's like, it kind of seems sus.
It seems sus.
And I've heard people say that they think it's because if he goes to jail or is convicted of a crime of this nature, he cannot run for president.
Right.
Which they've been.
Which they would love.
Well, yeah, they've been trying to prevent him from being a successful president or, you know, for gosh.
Since before he was the president.
Forever.
So, and I think it's kind of an interesting symbol in a way because it's like, is it what Trump represents as a president is like freedom-loving people, middle-class people, you know, gun owners, people who have kids, who have families, Christians, maybe, like, and that's everything that the left hates.
True.
The left loves, you know, secularism, transgender kids, you know, anything that's, yeah, depraved and immoral, basically.
Exactly.
Like, they love those things.
They don't love tradition.
So it's like, are they really attacking Trump or is this a bigger, is this symbolic of conservatives as a whole?
Like, you know?
I don't know.
I don't know either.
So this first article that we want to talk about is that the judge who okayed the Mar-a-Lago raid was once an Obama donor who was linked to Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, when you say linked to Jeffrey Epstein, you think, oh, he flew on the Lolita Express and he was doing all that stuff.
Probably not.
He was actually a lawyer who represented a bunch of Epstein's employees.
So it's not like he was necessarily accused of being involved in any crimes himself.
But he did.
One of the people that he is reported to have represented as a lawyer was the pilot of the plane.
So obviously he knows about some stuff.
He knows some stuff.
And he's still, he is representing shady people.
Now, that's kind of what lawyers do.
Yeah.
No, it's true.
Like, if that's his job, that's his job.
It doesn't mean he's not shady, but it's like, that's what lawyers do.
Well, especially because according to Daily Wire, the Florida magistrate judge who reportedly signed off on the FBI's raid of former President Donald Trump's home allegedly disparaged the former president and shared woke content on what appears to be his personal Facebook page.
So he clearly has a disdain for Trump.
He doesn't like him.
So it just seems a little fishy.
Yeah.
Because it's like, you know, it seems like a clearly targeted attack.
Yeah.
And that's the problem with, I mean, and it's like the American justice system is probably one of the best in the world, right?
And I'm like, oh, I guess it's not.
I don't know.
You'd hope.
You'd hope it's better than, yeah.
More corrupt countries, but these are still human beings.
The judge should be impartial and unbiased, but there he is.
He's got justice.
And especially in this world that we live in of like social media and globalism and like everyone knows everything about everyone all the time.
How can you be completely unbiased about something as divisive as Donald Trump?
No, it's true.
It just never looks good when a judge like openly hates someone and then authorizes an FB raid.
Yeah, FBI rated judge.
It almost should be like, why don't we get a judge who's like less hot on the topic?
But maybe they're like, there's no one who doesn't have a very like, do you know anyone on the planet who's like Donald Trump?
Don't give him much thought.
No, it's so true.
Everybody has an opinion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even if the opinion's like, well, you know, he did this and that, like, it's still an opinion.
So it would be cool if they could find a judge who was like more on the fence about stuff and more impartial.
But alas, this is what we have.
And yeah.
I mean, hopefully this raid is not political.
Like it's not politically targeted.
Like I really hope that this is they maybe, I mean, I don't want, I mean, you don't ever want a former president to go to jail for something, but if you've committed a crime, you should go to jail.
Yeah.
And actually, Alexa and I talked about it on the live stream on Friday.
It was a American pollster was giving an interview to some Canadian news site and he was like, this is a bad path we're going down because it's basically like to me, what I heard was like, this is like countries that have like violent insurrections and stuff.
Right.
Like actual insurrections where presidents are dragged out of their home.
Like what didn't that just happen in Sri Lanka?
Right.
Something like that.
Something like that where they're like swimming in the president's pool.
Yeah.
They all went like thousands of people.
It's like nuts.
And we don't want to turn into that kind of place, right?
No, and it's not a bad look.
It's a bad path we're going down.
It is, especially because it's like, okay, if you're going to do this to Trump, then you need to do it to other people.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like, there's such a double standard, and you're not hiding it anymore.
Like, we can all plainly see that the rules are different for Democrats and Republicans.
And I mean, to go after a former president, like, I don't think that's ever happened before in this manner.
Powerful Shadows00:12:04
Not that I know of.
Right.
And like, frankly, I think they all just wanted to wear Melania's clothes.
Well, yeah, because apparently they scoured her closet.
Yeah.
They scoured Melania Trump's closet while they're doing their raid.
And it's like, just because her looks are nuclear doesn't mean there's nuclear dogs.
Collar.
Collar.
That's too far, you guys.
Yeah.
You should not have been trying on her clothes.
And I made that part up.
I don't think they were trying on her clothes.
No, probably not.
But there's been some really hilarious tweets about it of like pictures of like FBI people wearing like her gowns in the street.
Anyway, you got to love Twitter for some things.
Yes.
Sometimes it's fun and great.
And I'm on it every day, unfortunately.
Anyway, we don't really want to stay too fixated on the Trump stuff because this whole conversation kind of inspired us more to talk about Epstein because, of course, all rogues lead to Peto Island.
And everything always leads back to Jeffrey Epstein for some freaking reason these days.
Everything.
But the biggest question remains.
We know about Ghelane Maxwell.
We know about Epstein.
Rest in something.
But where are the clients?
Like, what the hell happened to them?
There's a list.
Because we're so concerned about, you know, classified nuclear documents being in the former president's home, but we don't really care about the countless creeps who attended the Lolita, who flew on the Lolita Express to Pedo Island with Jeffrey Epstein.
Do you guys know who Jeffrey Epstein is?
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him?
Weird.
Well, I heard he killed himself.
He killed himself.
And what did he do, Kat?
Well, for those who maybe don't know, because they maybe are living under weight.
It's okay.
We forgive you.
Well, he had a special private island where he is supposed to have allegedly had very powerful people come in and have like sexual parties with underage girls.
And Ghelane Maxwell, who was his girlfriend on and off and who was basically like a pimp for him, that's the allegation, was the person who she like scouted out these young women through powerful connections such as Victoria's Secret and other talented socialite.
Yeah, she was the socialite.
And she was able to rub elbows.
So she would lure these young girls into coming to Jeffrey's into his like care, I guess.
And then he would like sell them in a way to rich people.
Which is just the most horrific, disgusting thing ever.
It's so horrific that it's hard to imagine it as being true.
But so Ghylaine Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in a U.S. prison for helping former financier Jeffrey Epstein abuse young girls.
She was convicted in December of recruiting, traffic, and trafficking four teenage girls for sexual abuse by Epstein.
I'm sure that there are more than four girls.
And she was recently moved to a cushy, low-security federal prison called Tallahassee Federal Correctional Institution that offers her yoga, Pilates, commercial snacks, and even collagen facials.
Do you get any of that in your home?
Cat?
No.
Are you in prison?
No.
I've never been exposed to basically any of those things.
Yeah, no.
Like, that's all expensive stuff.
Like, commercial snacks, fine.
I can get myself a couple of Doritos.
I can get some Doritos.
Yeah.
Like Pilates, yoga, that's all stuff I have to pay for out of my pockets.
Not a college in facial.
A collagen facial at like what?
Excuse me?
Excuse me?
Excuse me.
And there's women right now in prison in the United States for like dime bags of marijuana.
Yeah, who are getting like raped by bylaws men who identify as women.
But you have fun, Ghee Lane.
Yeah.
It seems like justice really prevails.
In this instance, it's awful.
But despite that being awful, she's not the only person.
Exactly.
And we've talked about this before.
So it's like she is a bad person, I believe.
She has been convicted of horrible crimes.
She should be in jail.
Forever.
Forever.
However, she was the pimp.
Who are the clients?
And that has been on everyone's mind for a long time now, maybe a year.
I don't even know how long this has been going on.
Yeah.
And I guess did the judge like refuse to disclose the list or something like that?
I think it's something like that.
Like, so basically they're staying hidden on purpose.
And it's like, why?
Are these men and women so powerful?
Like just that, like, that's scary.
That's what people think that they're, and that's what I think too, is that the people on this list are so powerful even right now today that it would be too much of a shock to the zeitgeist of America and maybe the globe to have these people convicted or like called out on these crimes.
Yeah.
It's disturbing.
It's so disturbing.
And there is an Instagram account called Celebs with Gheelane.
And I guess they allege that certain people may be tied to Epstein.
And I mean, it's hard to say if it's a fair assessment because it's just like they post photos of people who have been photographed with Epstein or Gheelane.
In this case, it's Gheelane.
But I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean just because you have a photo with someone that you're you're associated with them.
Yeah.
But I mean, people are bound to know in Hollywood and in politics who these people are and what they're doing.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Maybe there is a case to be made for some of the people.
Should we list some of the people that this mentions?
So this article mentions a bunch of people.
Some of them more, like these are the famous ones.
Yeah.
There are, I'm sure there are so many names on this list that nobody knows.
They're just judges or lawyers or politicians or whatever, doctors, who cares?
So Prince Andrew of the royal family, he's a big one.
He has been basically ostracized from the royal family as a result of this coming out, but like he's not in prison.
No.
Because these powerful people, somehow the justice system just doesn't care.
I've also heard Naomi Campbell.
Oh, right.
You're talking about just the pictures.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
This is a list of people that are like, yeah.
There's a lot of people.
We should list some because I think it's fine.
Yeah.
Go for it.
Okay.
So there's Kyle McLaughlin.
There's Elle McPherson, Pierce Morgan, President Donald Trump, McJagger, Michael Bolton, Jane Krakowski, Carol Radizvu.
I don't know who that is.
The Clintons, of course, Bill and Hillary, who we know kind of, clearly they had a friendly relationship with Gheelane at the very least because she attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding, which is the child of Hillary and yeah, like that goes a little further than photos.
Photos.
Like, so you're social, you're at some big socialite event.
You take a photo of someone, you're like, oh, who was that?
I don't know.
Because when you're, if we are Elle McPherson, maybe she wants to take a picture with you.
And she's like, can we have a picture?
And you're like, sure.
Doesn't mean Elle McPherson's a pedo.
No.
By any means.
Hopefully not.
Hopefully not.
Yeah.
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.
But there's also this, this article talks about powerful men who are associated, like provably associated with Epstein.
Yes.
More than just taking photos, who are like actually involved in business dealings and like trafficking women.
Which we talked about in our episode about Victoria's Secret too.
What's his wecksner?
Les Wechner, yes.
So Prince Andrew, as I mentioned, there's this guy named Jean-Luc Brunel.
No relation to the Jean-Luc from Star Trek TNG.
No relation.
So I didn't know about him, but his little blurb, his nickname, the King of the Catwalk, who was accused of trafficking over 1,000 women and girls to Epstein, he was discovered dead in his cell at La Santa Prison earlier this year.
Never heard of him before.
Nope.
Yeah.
Doesn't look good.
Doesn't look good, guys.
Doesn't look good.
So Les Wexner, we talked about who was the owner of the brand El Brance, who owns Victoria's Secret.
And then here's another quote from the article.
It says, an investigative journalist named Christopher Mason discovered that Epstein kept surveillance tapes of anyone who walked through and around his home and that Maxwell had all of this footage.
So they now, so the FBI or whoever the heck is investigating this has that footage.
They know about all these people.
They know, they know who is there.
They don't want to release it.
It's weird.
It's so weird.
And there's an investigative journalist named Christopher Mason who discovered that Epstein kept, as you said, surveillance tapes.
And he's someone who says he knows, like he has answers to all this, and he's not releasing it for some reason.
Well, I think he said it was because some of it would identify some of the victims.
So that's something I hadn't actually thought about.
That's a great point.
It's a good point.
Blur out their faces.
I don't know.
Yeah, I know.
It's like figure it out.
It's something I hadn't really thought about myself.
So it's like, maybe that's why we're not releasing the list.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
We're trying to protect the victims of these horrible crimes.
However, you convict pedophiles and rapists every day.
And the victim's name is not on the front page of the news.
And, you know, I think this is just interesting because our culture clearly only cares about justice when it's convenient for them or when it perpetuates a certain narrative or when it can be glamorized.
Because when it comes to rich, powerful people grooming and raping children, we're ignoring it.
Like we're basically ignoring it.
Or we're covering it up with Johnny Depp Amber Heard trials because she, Guy Lane, was convicted around the same time as their like eight-week trial, you know.
And it's important to talk about, you know, culture and we care about, you know, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard because it speaks to a different moment in our culture and stuff.
But it's like, this is the biggest story maybe ever in our lifetime.
Like, like innocent children have been harmed and exploited and raped by creepy, powerful men who are maybe running our countries, who are in our political system.
Like what?
And famous Hollywood actors who make millions of dollars and they get Oscars and all this crap.
Like, what the hell?
Yeah.
What the hell?
I was actually looking to watch a movie last night on Netflix and I was like, oh, this looks interesting.
The Ninth Gate starring Johnny Depp from the 90s.
And within the first like two seconds, it's like a Roman Polanski film.
And Ryan's like, turn it off.
We're not watching this.
And I was like, true.
Like, he is now, I think he, is he in jail or did he flee?
One of the two.
I think he fled to jail, yeah.
Fine.
He's no longer in Hollywood sitting on Ventura Avenue drinking Starbucks.
Fine.
But sure, his life's not that hard.
His freaking movie's still on Netflix.
Like, we cannot, like, we love these movies and these celebrities so much that we're like, okay, I know, like, separate the art from the artist, but it's like when the artist is a literal pedophile rapist.
There has to be a line.
There has to be a line.
It's the same with the Weinstein production company.
Like, so many amazing movies that have been made under that banner, unfortunately.
But you're right.
They're still all on Netflix.
And like, I don't mind, if you want to watch them, fine.
But those movies should be made free.
It's like no one can profit from this, but you know that that's not the case because they're on Netflix and Netflix had to buy the rights to that film from whoever owns it still.
That should be a wash.
Like fine.
You can't, I don't want to memory hole stuff.
Yeah.
You want to watch it go ahead, but it shouldn't cost you a dime to watch a pedophiles movie.
No, it's so true.
And I think it's just interesting that our society, to tie it back to Trump, they care more about seeking justice from a former president than they do about Epstein and that list.
Yeah.
Like, that's just there.
There is something so depraved about that.
Like, what?
Like, you, like, really, people are so blinded by their hatred for Trump that they would rather expose this man who the hell cares at the end of the day.
Well, like, just to play devil's advocate to what you said earlier, if it is that he has nuclear secrets in his briefcase.
Yeah.
And he's having people come into our mar-a-lago all the time.
It's like, okay, maybe.
1,000%.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So, like, maybe that Trump's the pedophile island.
Trump's so slow.
But I think the outrage is what I mean.
Like, like, progressives are like, let's get him.
Yeah.
You know?
But also, like, what are the chances that in that briefcase he has something that's like, oh, like, if North Korea gets this, we're all dead.
Like, yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just, I'm still.
I'd still rather justice for the kids.
Yeah.
No, I'm just kidding.
Well, they are the future.
They are the future.
But they won't be the future if we're all annihilated from nuclear development.
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It's true.
It's a good point.
We have to see how it plays out.
But yes.
Because we don't have all the facts yet when it comes to Trump.
I just think that it is completely, you're completely right about the outrage level.
People are like, yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, what are you going to do?
But we're going to get that Trump.
It's like, okay, like, let's have the same amount of fire in our bellies for like young women getting assaulted and abused equal justice, like equal anger, equal outrage.
I don't know.
And I mean, maybe it's just because we know, as we've talked about on the show so many times, that our society just doesn't give a crap about children or young people or youth or adolescents.
So maybe that's what it is.
It's just like, eh, whatever.
Which kind of leads into our next topic.
Yes, it does.
Which is, to me, was extremely shocking and disturbing.
And we're going to talk about specifically this man named Dan Schneider and his, the allegations against him.
We'll talk about this one article first, but it's just like Nat just said, it's interesting to see how little people care about children and how they're always, like we, they're always at the bottom of the priority list.
And it's like children are being abused.
They're like, well, what are you going to do?
People in Hollywood got to get paid.
Let's get Trump, though.
Yeah.
Let's get him.
Yeah, we're going to get him.
So iCarly star Jeanette McCurdy claimed Nickelodeon offered her $300,000 to never speak about her experiences, but she refused.
So on August 8th, she released a memoir called I'm Glad My Mom Died.
She starred as Sam Puckett on the popular teen sitcom iCarly from 2007, 2012, alongside Miranda Cosgrove.
And while she was a fan favorite, she recently basically wrote about her experiences during her years on iCarly and said that they were incredibly uncomfortable.
So how this relates to Dan Schneider is Dan Schneider is the producer of iCarly and he works for Nickelodeon.
He also produced several other shows.
Several other shows.
The Amanda Bynes.
Yeah.
The show.
Zoe 101.
Yes.
Victorious.
Yes, exactly.
Yes.
I was a little old for those shows because I was born a long time ago.
But I watched a lot of them with my little sis while she was growing up and she was a huge fan of that Ariana Grande show, whatever it was called.
Oh, I didn't watch that one.
I was too old.
What was it called?
Victorious.
Really?
The Ariana Grande one?
Yeah.
I was too old for that one.
But anyway.
In 2021, the New York Times uncovered allegations that Schneider, who cut ties with Nickelodeon in 2018, had been verbally abusive prior to his departure, though they found no evidence of sexual misconduct.
Jeanette claims that her former boss, who she doesn't name, she calls him the creator in her memoir, which is incredibly creepy.
He got into trouble with the network for accusations of his emotional abuse.
So that's one thing.
And that is a theme throughout several articles that we've read for this episode that he was verbally and emotionally abusive, allegedly, but there's like multiple allegations.
And so it seems to be, and he, and those are the only things that he'll comment on.
Yes.
Like he has been like, well, I believe in art and I'm like very hardworking and dedicated.
So it's like, that's why I yelled at it.
He's like, oh, if I was sending mean emails, it's because I was hustling at the beginning of my career.
Yeah.
I don't think you can excuse bad behavior when you're abusing people below you.
Yes.
Especially when you're that powerful.
Like if you're a boss, just be a decent boss.
Treat people with dignity and respect.
And, you know, they are human beings just like you.
Yeah.
However, there are things that he will not even touch with a 10-foot pole.
Yeah.
And one of the actors whose name is Avon Joja made a TikTok in 2020 about how he doesn't remember a single Victorious episode because he was out partying every night.
Uh-oh.
So those kids were getting lit, underage.
And so when we started digging into this, Nat sent me a bunch of stuff.
And I was like, I was just blown away by like, there are so many allegations.
There's allegations of racism and there's all sorts of stuff.
Fetishes, like foot fetishes, fantalizing actors.
And apparently there was like a lot of sexual stuff going on with the young people, some of which were 18, some of which were under 18.
Apparently, there were a lot of phone calls from angry parents saying what's going on in the sets.
So there's a lot.
And this is not all proven.
Like this is a lot of allegation, but it's so many things.
That's what is so disturbing about it.
It's not just one or two crazy people being like, oh, it was horrible for me.
You're like, not even crazy people.
It's kind of a collection.
Like child stars have had a rough time in Hollywood forever, but it's like, it's still, like, it's not that long ago.
And these people are still powerful people.
And it's weird how Dan Schneider left.
Yes.
Like Nat mentioned in 2018.
He just sort of cut ties like amicable.
But he still got his like $7 million payout or something.
Yeah, but apparently his Twitter went silent after it was very active before.
And it's like, that kind of sounds like how you would treat someone if you wanted them to just go away because you're embarrassed by them and they've done some handy stuff.
And if you're offering $300,000 to one of your actors to shut up about her experiences, there might be something boiling beneath the surface.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I never know.
But I was like, just the brief synopsis of this book on Carly McCurdy.
Is that her name, Carly?
Jeanette.
Jeanette, sorry.
I Carly.
Jeanette McCurdy.
So her book about her mother is super, like, I haven't read it, obviously, but I read the synopsis, and it seems very sad.
Yeah.
Like, some of that stuff was super disturbing about her mother.
Yeah, she was abused by her mom.
She was abused and exploiting her.
Yes, and pushed into Hollywood at a young age when she had no interest in it.
And then, of course, she gets like allegedly abused in the television industry by being pushed alcohol launch.
She had to kiss on camera, which she was very uncomfortable with.
And apparently, the creator, who we think is Dan Schneider, gave her an unwanted back rub.
Yeah, she's been photographed in her bathing suit during costume changes and stuff like that.
And she's messed up from it, she says.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's not just her.
Like, it's not just actors who have come out.
It's people on the back end as well.
Like, so some former colleagues in recent interviews said they found him to be controlling, a controlling, difficult showrunner, prone to tantrums and angry emails.
He had a delicate ego, and he made staff members feel as though they were always walking on eggshells.
Several said they felt uncomfortable when he frequently asked an employee from the costume department for shoulder and neck massages or texted child actors outside of work hours, though he says that it was lighthearted.
He, well, I read a quote that he said he never talked to the child actors outside.
I've heard that he said it was always in light.
Oh, that's so interesting.
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Rat row.
Oh, wait.
Denies all, he denies any wrongdoing in terms of the children, which, you know, you would, wouldn't you?
You should, yeah.
You would.
It's just that there are too many sketchy stories about this guy who had never heard of him until yesterday.
And now I'm disturbed by it.
It's really disturbing.
And okay, as we mentioned before, we don't have all the facts, but we must remember that the same allegations were made towards Weinstein and Epstein for years.
People were talking about these things and they were being silenced or censored.
So it only really takes like it takes momentum, I guess, for these sorts of things to the bubble to burst.
Yeah, and that's why we want to talk about it.
Exactly.
Because maybe it's nothing.
Maybe this is all just an allegation and Jeanette McCurdy is, she's not claiming that he raped her at all.
No.
That's not a claim.
But that makes it more realistic.
Yeah.
She's literally like those.
I had a job once where on my first shift, it was my first waitressing job and the owner came up behind me and gave me a back rub and I never went back.
Yeah.
And the other waiters are like, ooh, you're so lucky he likes you.
And I was like, I'm done here.
This is not for me.
It's creepy.
And like, I was, I was like 21 at the time.
Yeah.
This girl was not.
She was younger and she was being forced to be there by her obsessive mother.
Crazy mom.
It's crazy.
And those people are way more powerful than this restaurant owner.
So it's like, I totally, that's such a realistic situation.
Yeah.
And you know, you've, I remember being young and having people be like, oh, like older people, like, oh, do you want to drink?
You want to drink?
Yeah.
And it's, it's also if you're a young actor, I mean, this is one thing that Weinstein actors talked about when they came out, you know, alleging he was an abuser and stuff like that.
They wanted, they didn't want to ruin their careers.
And another actress recently came out.
I think it was Amanda Seifreed who said that she regrets taking off her clothes when she was 19 to get film roles and stuff like that.
And it's like, I guess if you're just, if you're under pressure, you're going to do stupid things.
And these are adult men and women taking advantage of young people.
They know they want a career in acting.
They know they do anything to make their dream come true.
And they're taking advantage of that, like their hopes and dreams and that vulnerability.
And it's just so gross.
And if this is happening on Nickelodeon and this is happening with the Weinstein, this is happening way more than I think we all think.
Yeah.
And the worst part about it is if you're the kind of girl who's like, no, I don't want to take my clothes off.
They're like, oh, well, this girl does.
So bye.
Exactly.
And you know that.
They tell you that.
They'll be like, well, there's a thousand of you.
How many times when you were trying to be an actor?
Because I saw this all the time.
They were like, you must be comfortable taking off your clothes.
You don't get paid.
Yes.
All of the time.
And all of the time.
Exactly.
Literally.
And it's honestly what got me out of that business too.
I was like, because I would never get cast.
Yeah.
Because I'm not doing it.
Because, well, I already told the story on the show about the makeout scene I had to do when I was so naive.
I thought it would be fake kissing and it wasn't.
And I was like, I have a boyfriend.
I don't want to make out with this random dude.
But in that same movie, I was supposed to get like partially nude.
And it was for free.
Yeah.
Never take your clothes off for free.
And they replaced my easy when I quit.
Yeah.
And I was fine with it.
And I moved on with my life.
But, you know, not everyone has that strength and willpower.
And I mean, whatever.
And again, my parents were not pressuring me.
I wasn't that young and stupid.
And my parents weren't like, you have to do this.
Like, have you ever seen Honeyboy?
The Shia LaBeouf?
No, not yet.
It's the same thing.
It's another thing.
It's the same sort of thing.
Like, his dad was kind of wacky and kind of, he was super poor.
And his dad was like, you're my ticket.
Like, you need to do this.
There's always these parents who exploit their children for money and fame.
It's super cute.
It's really just what a parent's supposed to do.
You're supposed to make money off your children.
If you aren't doing that, ye doing it.
Well, I plan on exploiting my child.
Yes, of course you do.
That's my girl.
That's a joke.
So there is like this Twitter account called Obescuer Nick, who's basically dedicated to investigating and exposing this alleged abuse that occurred under the Nickelodeon banner.
And they made a really good point, which kind of just is a follow-up to what I already said, but she said, or they said, because we don't know who this person is, for those saying that there is no concrete evidence on dad and Schneider sexually abusing children, news flash, almost every time sexual assault or abuse happens, there is no one around and no video.
Because the people in power know that.
They're not stupid people.
That's how they got that high.
Exactly.
Like, they're being strategic about this for sure.
And I really think the moral of the story here is that Hollywood is disgusting.
I think.
I'm glad I'm not a famous actor.
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Me too.
And like, we should just never take anything at face value in 2022.
And really, honestly, guys, don't watch stuff that peddles me.
Yeah, please.
Like, it was taught.
There's nothing to watch on Netflix.
And I really wanted to watch that movie.
And we had to make the very hard decision to be like, no.
Yeah, it sucks because it's like, it's nice to watch movies and stuff.
And some of them are extra.
I love it.
It's a psychological thriller.
I love a psychological thriller.
But my hope is that Netflix and their algorithms will be like, hmm, every time the name Roman Polanski comes up on the screen, people shut it off.
And maybe we should just take this off the network.
And that will never happen, but it's my hope.
Yes.
So I think that's great.
Sayonara, Roman.
Bye.
Bye.
Actually, maybe we should just, because we've talked about a lot of heavy stuff, and it sucks.
There's a lot of evil in the world.
There's a lot of depravity.
But I think, you know, like we were talking about earlier, we may never see justice for like Epstein's victims or Dan Schneider's victims.
A legend.
But thankfully, we serve a God of justice and justice will be served one day.
The Bible says in Ecclesiastes 3.17, God will bring into judgment both the righteous and the wicked, for there will be a time for every activity, a time to judge every deed.
And we've talked about this on the live stream before, but like one day every knee will bow and you'll have to account for every sin you've ever committed and justice will be served on that day.
So if we don't see it in our lifetime, it's still coming.
And I know it's discouraging because there's so much wicked in the world and it's overwhelming.
It's why I'm a Christian.
Yeah.
Honestly, because it's like, it's too hard to wrap my mind around how much evil is in the world.
I can't bear it.
And then sometimes like the worst thing for me is like, oh, a baby is born.
Baby gets cancer.
Baby dies.
Like what?
Yeah.
What is that about?
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
But if I have faith that there is a God and he has a plan and heaven and that baby's going to heaven and guess what, Epstein, there's no room for you there.
Your sins will be counted and they will be judged.
So it makes me feel better, even though there's so much darkness in the world.
So thank you for that.
So find peace.
It's going to end on a dark note.
Yeah, we should just, we should try to lighten it up.
But, you know, so we serve a God of peace.
Let that carry you.
Okay.
Don't keep your eyes fixed on the bullshit happening in the world.
Keep your eyes fixed on above.
Okay, I think that's the sure.
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